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Japan Is Not A Good Example Of How Deflation Typically Plays Out





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Japan is not a good example of how deflation typically plays out. As Ilargi points out, they were an exporting powerhouse exporting into the biggest consumption boom the world has ever seen. They also had a very large pile of money to burn through building their four lane highways from nowhere to nowhere, since they were the world's largest creditor when their bubble burst in 1989. This is clearly not our situation.

No one will be exporting their way out of a global economic depression. In contrast, exporters are going to feel the pain big time as their markets dry up. We can expect trade wars and protectionism to abound. Take note Germany, Scandinavia, Australia, New Zealand etc etc.

We have had the inflation, only instead of a currency hyperinflation, we experienced a 30 year credit hyper-expansion. Either one amounts to an expansion of money plus credit compared to available goods and services, and is therefore inflation. Credit is equivalent to money on the way up, but not on the way down. Credit loses 'moneyness' and credit instruments are massively devalued in a great deleveraging. This is deflation by definition and it is already underway. Debt monetization is nothing in comparison with the scale of the excess claims to underlying real wealth that stand to be eliminated.


I agree that the currency of a deflating nation strengthens. This is exactly why we have been writing about the value of the US dollar increasing, which it has done. The bottom came in a long time ago, and despite the set backs that are an integral part of a fractal market, the trend is up, and will be for some time. That's not to say it will be for the long term - far from it in fact - but for now that is the case. We have made it clear that cash is a short term bet (of the order of a few years), and that the longer term strategy is to move into hard goods at the point when one can reasonably afford to do so with no debt.

Some could do so now, while others would have to wait for prices to fall, as they inevitably do in a deflation, but not immediately. Price movements follow changes in the money supply. We have been in a counter-trend reflation since 2009, and prices have risen as a result. They may continue to do so for a while after the reflation is clearly over, but then the trend will reverse.

Prices will fall, but purchasing power will fall faster, meaning that prices will rise in real terms for most people. Those who have preserved capital as liquidity will find their purchasing power enormously increased, but most others will lose purchasing power because they will have no access to credit, highly unfavourable employment circumstances, rising property taxes and very little actual money.

The fiat currency regime will eventually descend into chaos as beggar-thy-neighbour devaluations become the norm, but not everyone can devalue at will or at once. The market will decide relative values for the next while.

Money will go from where the fear is to where the fear is not. It will be leaving the European periphery, and increasingly the entire eurozone, and flooding into currencies like the USD, the Swiss franc, the Swedish krona, and temporarily the British pound. It doesn't matter if the US is downgraded. Market participants will ignore the ratings agencies and vote with their feet on a kneejerk flight to safety.


You might think that the US indicators are much closer to the hyperinflation set-up than to deflation. I would disagree of course, for reasons Ilargi has explained (plummeting velocity of money for instance). I would also point out that people extrapolate the trend of the last three years forward, but fail to anticipate trend changes. We are in one. Many markets have topped already (gold, silver, commodities, oil etc), and the rolling top of the last year or so is about to claim the American stock market as well.

The rollover in the markets will drag the real economy down with it, with a time lag, since the time constant for changes in the real economy is much longer than for the financial world where value is virtual. We are headed into the teeth of the Greatest Depression, or at least the most significant one since the fourteenth century.

Hyperinflation is simply not on the cards any time soon. The depression will proceed for many years before that becomes a serious risk, unless you live in the European periphery that is, where currency reissue is a very real risk in the relatively short term.

In those currencies, loss of faith in New Drachmas, New Pesetas or New Lira is very likely, and the periphery countries will be cut off from international debt financing, with hyperinflationary results. That is not the situation in the US at all, and won't be for quite a long time. Eventually, when international debt financing is dead and buried, then printing will be a risk and a loss of faith in the erstwhile reserve currency could be expected.

In the meantime, debts defaults are going to skyrocket, each one doing its bit to destroy the value of credit instruments, and subtract from the effective money supply. This is already underway, and the great asset grab has begun as a result. Witness the asset stripping of Greece for instance.


In Europe, endless bailouts of sovereigns and the well-connected are doing nothing to increase the money supply or the velocity of money. In contrast, the ineffectuality of governments is doing nothing more than feeding the cycle of fear by demonstrating their impotence time after time. They are trying to overcome contraction, but are fighting an irresistible headwind. It is not going to work. Europe is already in contraction, and as fear will be increasingly in the ascendancy, that will only get worse.

Government obligations will be shed right, left and centre (by governments of the right, left and centre) because they will have no choice. Yes, this will lead to anarchical unrest, and yes, this will be met with a heavy-handed repressive response. Social polarization is very much on the cards - governments vs people, haves vs have-nots, natives vs immigrants, employers vs workers, unionized vs non-unionized, Us vs Them in general terms. This will not be pretty, to say the least. Just because it is a bad thing does not mean that it cannot happen, or that government, by their actions, can make any difference to the outcome.

Bailouts are never for the little guy. The creditors hold the political power and write the rules. They will not allow debtors off the hook. Instead of repayment in money, they will take people's freedom instead, making debt slavery much more real than it is today. Debts will not be forgiven, but sold on to more aggressive debt collectors. This is already happening in the US, where debt collection is becoming increasingly unconscionable.

Debts will only be effectively forgiven when people have nothing useful to repay, not even their labour. By then the middle classes will probably be living in latter day Hoovervilles, like the Villas Miserias populated by the formerly middle class Argentines.

Savers will have all the buying power, IF they have managed to get their savings away from dependence on the solvency of middle men. Otherwise they will likely disappear in a giant black hole of credit destruction, as yet more excess claims to underlying real wealth.


 

Posted: 6 months, 3 weeks ago by ChartistFriendPgh #5901
Posted: 6 months, 3 weeks ago by Professorlocknload #5863
Got it there, Dave.

I've, sometime back, connected Mutual Fund accounts with FDIC bank accounts, and set up self directed IRA's in SIPC brokerage accounts for misc. paper solids. The GNMA's and TIP's have been good these last few years, both .gov backed, but the sweet is about gone there. I mean, where to from zero? Damn, might as well stick it in the Bank of Atlas/Mason at these rates, yes? Especially considering what the "C" in the above "Insurance" institutions stands for!



Pretty much collected everything forward I'm gonna need here these next few 5 or 6 years, so I'll weather it. Been through worse.
Posted: 6 months, 3 weeks ago by davefairtex #5862
Random chart I'm working on:

finance_2012-10-26.png


This is a chart of finance-related headlines since late 2006, aggregated by nation, counted on a monthly basis. Its a pretty simple concept, but I think it is interesting to see how the newsflow moves from nation to nation. Is the rough number of finance-related headlines indicative of the level of crisis in the nation? Or just the amount of breathlessness the press brings to bear upon the issue?

I don't know. Its just data I collected. Submitted for...your enjoyment.
Posted: 6 months, 3 weeks ago by davefairtex #5861
professor -

Not to scare the horses indeed.

If things go really badly south (meaning, if major institutions whose short-term repo instruments fill the money market funds go BK the way Lehman did) the fifty cents on the buck event could happen.

The funds are a bit smarter this time around - they've dropped euro banks from their dance cards, which I think will address the first wave of issues. But if I see tensions rising severely, you can bet my digital cash will run and hide in a short term treasury. Treasury Direct. Fewest middle men involved, and hopefully the last thing to get thrown under the bus. Its that or a demand deposit account.

Note that buying a short term treasury and stuffing it in your brokerage account will avoid losses from your money market fund breaking the buck, but it will NOT address the problem of the broker going under. Case: MF Global bankruptcy, where MFG customers who had physical gold bars (paying storage fees, no less!) became general creditors in the bankruptcy losing the same 20-something percent off their account balances as everyone else. Best to have a sturdy broker who doesn't play funny games with hypothecating customer assets.

Note also the Treasury Direct purchase should probably occur a number of days prior to the emergency, or else the ACH transaction from your bank might not go through - or it might get reversed, etc. And some auctions only happen weekly, so...probably best not to cut things too fine.

Probably best to have a plan in place, with all the abilities to transfer assets tested ahead of time, understanding the delays involved.

Rules of Trading:
Rule #1: don't panic!
Rule #2: when a panic is going to happen, make sure you panic first.
Posted: 6 months, 3 weeks ago by Professorlocknload #5860
p01,

Ever wonder what the reaction if those headlines should ever read "All Mutual Funds Halt Redemptions Until Further Notice," meaning until all insiders have cleared their holdings? Or, "Money Market Mutual Funds Break the Buck. Redeemed at 50 cents on the Dollar." Many don't know how close to breaking of the buck we were in 09.


Not to scare the horses here, but, the more I research this stuff, well,
putting new line on the reels and sharpening the hooks! Might have to do a Sweeny Todd and open a barber shop, to keep the wife in pie material
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by p01 #5858
Vic financial group collapses owing $660m

Nervous investors, including farmers and workers in regional Victoria, will have to wait to find out what will happen to the hundreds of millions of dollars that are tied up in the company's collapse.

This is what TAE was talking about, but on a really large scale.
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by p01 #5857
Professorlocknload wrote:

For me, down on this side of the skids, it's get out of any debt first. Then, accumulate at least enough cash to run off to somewhere like Datil, NM and air out for a year, if necessary. Don't fret, one can live damned cheaply out there. And sleep well! 7-10k should do it, along with a fishing rod, couple pounds of salt pork and a cheap bolt action 22, as grub stake. And wow, with no phone and no net, reflection comes easily. (Best Pie in the West, right up the road there, in Pie Town. Really! www.pie-o-neer.com/) And they have a phone!


Now that`s more like it, Professor! I like the way you think! Hold the pie for an even better sleep.
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by Professorlocknload #5856
Nassim, yes, scales are available, and cheap! Along with Au test kits, as well.

www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Gram-Jewelry-Scale/dp/B000O37TDO
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by Nassim #5854
<< Re: small gold particles. Very interesting! Though ripping up a 1oz gold coin with tweezers doesn't strike me as an exact science. >>

Best way is to beat the gold into a thin sheet - very easy for anyone with the right tools and skills - and then cut it with scissors. Accurate weighing-scales are readily available.

Try beating tungsten flat, just to see the difference.
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by Professorlocknload #5853
On sleeping at night,

If any investment decision ever keeps me awake, I get up in the morning, have a cup of joe, get on the phone and SELL IT! My sleep is worth more to me than some bet.

Read somewhere in a DIY shrink book, one of the causes of anxiety is a feeling of loss of control. We could take that as a given anytime we hand over the fruits of our labor to another. Like, for instance, a stock broker, banker, insurance salesman, mutual fund manager, escrow officer, Treasury Direct, sports book clerk, keno runner... ad as fits. And, that restless night is generally trying to speak to us, maybe?

Where to? The Patriciate might respond, Gold, Real Estate and Collectibles, and hang on a couple centuries and your heirs will thank you. Humm, all could be closely held, I guess. And over a very long haul, all have maintained value.

For me, down on this side of the skids, it's get out of any debt first. Then, accumulate at least enough cash to run off to somewhere like Datil, NM and air out for a year, if necessary. Don't fret, one can live damned cheaply out there. And sleep well! 7-10k should do it, along with a fishing rod, couple pounds of salt pork and a cheap bolt action 22, as grub stake. And wow, with no phone and no net, reflection comes easily. (Best Pie in the West, right up the road there, in Pie Town. Really! www.pie-o-neer.com/) And they have a phone!

Mind you, it's not over the edge, just 3/4 day from Phoenix, by fast Greyhound.

Then, with that in the mason jar, buried in the woods, it's prudent to collect enough hand tools to fix a flat, swap out a water heater, wire a plug, patch a roof, mend a fence, dig a hole, wash a window, knock down weeds, peel apples at pie-o-neer etc. If you have a business, invest in it, if you trust the owner. If you don't have one, start some little side gig. Beats sending your money off to some jake on wall street to throw onto the fire at Solyndra. Other words, there are 48,500 ways to make a buck in America. Just pick one.

From that point, don't look back and don't look forward anymore than a couple steps, to keep from falling over.

Then, knowing where you can get your fill of pie, keep aside 10% or so of earnings with which to invest, if for no other reason than to pay as you learn. Tuition is expensive, so the lesson sinks in better.

Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by Variable81 #5852
@Professorlocknload,

You're right that the world is probably awash in .223/9mm, but it is still a 'consumable' and those rounds will get used up eventually.

If we are heading into a Great-er Depression, I suspect many of the enterprises that manufacture .223/9mm/ammo may go bankrupt and any supply that is manufactured will be primarily for military and law enforcement. They may wind up being sold on every black market around the world, but I don't like my chances of getting them at an affordable price in the future...

Re:.22's - yes, absolutely one of the most affordable rounds out there and perfectly able to handle any small rodent problems, though when you get up to coyotes I start to wonder if a .22 is the most humane round to use. The .22 is also a great "trainer" for helping people learn to shoot without breaking the bank. Definitely a versatile round/rifle.

Re: small gold particles. Very interesting! Though ripping up a 1oz gold coin with tweezers doesn't strike me as an exact science.

Thankfully I'm not burdened with enough wealth to have to worry about owning more than an oz or two of gold
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by davefairtex #5851
backwards -

I went through a phase where I had trouble sleeping too. The trick I finally learned is, the number of scenarios where it all goes bad overnight from a largely stable position (i.e. a "bolt from the blue") are few. Likely, we'll have some warning first.

Right now, believe it or not, things are more or less stable. Unsustainable, but stable.

In the meantime, just steadily work to increase your basic level of preparedness. Lower debt, have cash on hand, increase food & water reserves, basic physical fitness, that kind of thing.

I'm actually working on a sort of early warning system - just for my own peace of mind. The bits and pieces I've developed so far do help me to relax.
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by pipefit #5850
Prof Lock-"We can bite the deflationary bullet now, and begin the healing, or we can multiply the monster 10 fold, all the way down, and bite the really big shew later."

I think the last chance of going the 'deflation' route was around 2000, when Shrub took office. We had an accounting surplus, so they could have began the process of converting social security to private accounts.

Obviously W. thought it made more sense to give the $2 trillion (2003 constant dollars) to Iraq.

Regarding the comments on the a stock market selloff, to the untrained eye, the S&P 500 appears to be right back near the 2000 market top. But that would be ignoring 12.5 years of CPI and monetary inflation. Adjusted for inflation, the stock market is less than half of the all time high. And measured against real money, gold and silver, it is off 80% to 90%.

This is why central bankers and their bosses, whoever they are, love inflation so much. They can steal a massive chunk of everyone's money, over and and above taxes, and most people have hardly a clue as to what is happening.
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by p01 #5848
davefairtex wrote:
p01 -

The stopped clock phenomenon: "Even a stopped clock is right - twice per day."

This refers to someone repeatedly making the same prediction, just like a stopped clock always says it's 3pm. Wait long enough, and 3pm will in fact recur, and the clock will be correct. In the case of a market crash, if you predict one often enough, for long enough, you will be right because given enough time, the market will indeed crash.

So the timeline here, for the stopped clock phenomenon is ... 12 hours (half the duration of the day), which is pretty long, wouldn't you say? It's not exactly rocket science to see that 3 years is invisible on this type of timeline (half the duration of the market's life?). I'm just trying to integrate the ignored timeline here, and to see why a green-slime, non-respectable-trading lesser being would care about that in the timeline that we're talking about.
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by backwardsevolution #5847
davefairtex - thanks very much for your great explanation. That's what I thought she meant, but in the back of my mind was hoping wasn't true.

I will not sleep well tonight, but this information is very helpful. Thanks again.
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by davefairtex #5846
backwards -

Savings middle men: anyone standing between you, and your savings. Another way to look at it is, anyone who could potentially say "no" to your demand to get your stored value. NO you can't withdraw that much cash today. NO you can't withdraw your savings for the next 60 days. NO our institution is closed today. Or this week. Or until further notice. NO, we're going through bankruptcy and we'll let you know in 2 years what share you receive as a general creditor. NO, we don't actually have your allocated gold bars, even though we've been charging you storage fees for the past 10 years. NO, we've suspended withdrawls from your money market account due to our holdings in Lehman repos.

All actual cases. 1) normal bank policy on cash withdrawls. 2) standard savings account agreement. 3) bank holiday, 1933. 4) MF Global BK. 5) Morgan Stanley, 2007. 6) The Reserve, 2008.

If a major crisis happens in the financial system, your savings better not be stored by middle men - by anyone who could say NO to you.

TAE envisions that such a crisis is inevitable and must follow the credit bubble bust just like night follows day. Kind of like a law of financial physics.
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by Professorlocknload #5839
Pipefit,

"giving us 99% ers and tiny bankroll to get started, or perhaps nothing but the clothes on our backs, as long as they don't have any fancy designer labels on them, lol."

Ya mean they are gonna take away my bike! How will I get down to Mickey D's to work?

gizmodo.com/5885919/14000-gucci-bike-is-an-urban-commuter-for-one-percenters
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by backwardsevolution #5838
Stoneleigh: On the last thread you said this:

"Savers will have all the buying power, IF they have managed to get their savings away from dependence on the solvency of middle men."

Would you please tell me who you are referring to when you say "middle men"? Mutual funds, or do you mean banks?
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by Professorlocknload #5837
Variable,

My mind works all bass akwards sometimes, but,

" .223 & .308 rounds are certainly valuable for hunting and varmint/pest control."

A guy came through town here sometime back on a 28 foot sloop, headed for the South Sea islands. He was stocking up on as many bricks of 22 longs as he could fit on there. Said they were the best affordable goods he could use in trade down there. He looked like the "other" kind of sailor. (Half are big shot Canadians on million dollar yachts, with speed boat tenders, the "other" half are broke loggers and laid off comm'l fishermen from Oregon and Washington on 40 year old boats and have to flag down a ride to shore.) Whatever it's worth. 22's are sure more economical for firing up rodents. Can put a big 'ol bunch of 'em in a pocket, too.
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by backwardsevolution #5836
"European Central Bank President Mario Draghi defended his plan to buy government bonds in the German parliament today with a warning about deflation risks. The ECB’s so-called Outright Monetary Transactions “will not lead to inflation..."

Draghi is seeking to win support in Europe’s largest economy for his plan to purchase government bonds to stem the debt crisis and safeguard the euro. Some German policy makers including Bundesbank President Jens Weidmann have said the proposal is tantamount to printing money to finance governments, which is prohibited by the ECB’s statutes.

“OMTs will not lead to disguised financing of governments,” Draghi said. “All this is fully consistent with the Treaty’s prohibition on monetary financing. Moreover, they will focus on shorter maturities and leave room for market discipline.”

www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-24/draghi-says-bond-purchases-won-t-fuel-inflation-hit-taxpayer.html

Mish said:

"That is a direct lie as is his opening gambit of claiming that breaking the treaty is within mandate. Yes, the ECB sterilizes the bonds it buys. However, the ECB will also accept those bonds right back as collateral for cash, thereby pumping up base money supply. The ECB has no intention of absorbing liquidity in actual practice."
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by Professorlocknload #5835
Variable,

Not confusing you with a gun nut like me, (see my user name!) but those 223 cal/9mm rounds will be on every black market card table outside every military outpost on the globe. They are already barter material by troops needing a drink too close to payday in most every war theater.

And with news Social Security Admin, TSA, yada are purchasing billions of rounds, won't be long a chunk of that cache' leaks out onto the streets. Just the nature of the beast. Day could come, that maple leaf could buy out the whole row of tables there at the swap meet. Oh, and The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms doesn't take kindly to trafficking in arms and ammo, unless by their own agents!

The video was shot live in Zimbabwe recording people panning for and using small gold particles to trade for bread. .01 grams per loaf at the time. It will most certainly awaken one to the grass roots actions of humans in adversity. Google it's title in youtube. Well worth it!!!

One could cut up an ounce with a pair of wire cutters in around a minute, tendering the pieces, using whatever other pre-weighed small bits the merchant keeps on hand for change.

Worked out here in gold country years before there were widely circulated coins. (Still does, under the table, I would imagine . I mean, I didn't see the baker in the video withholding sales tax, but maybe?

Remember Gunsmoke when the 'ol prospectors walked into the Long Branch and pulled out a Bull Durham sack of gold dust for a shot? Bet Sam the bartender had a scale there behind the bar?
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by Professorlocknload #5834
Pipefit,

"Far more likely, they run the dollar into the tarmac,"

Well, based on 1913 bucks, they only have a few cents left to chew up, so, if past performance is any indication of future expectations...

And on making it through all this, one can drop out most anywhere, even in Minot or Islamabad. I'll take my chances here in these mild climed Norwest woods. Too backwards 'round here for city dogs anyhow. Gotta wait a week for new i-chit, and no 4 g or whatever that phone thing is called.

But then, was it Bertrand Russell said, on being asked why he lived in New York City responded, para "It's the only place I can be alone."
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by Professorlocknload #5833
Pipefit says,

"You're thinking that IF we had a hard money system, a big drop in federal revenue would be deflationary, and it would, since there are hard constraints on deficit size in such a system. Obviously, at 30% of GDP and poised to go to 40% in short order, there are currently no constraints."

If I may take that another fathom, not only are there no constraints, all finance is based on data entry now, and a small amount of green paper, barring a credible audit of Ft. Knox, by which anything found would be claimed by the FRB/government.

In Stoneleigh's terms "moneyness" is gone from all these illusions. That would be all the pensions, stocks, bonds, money market accounts, Real Estate book values, Medicare, SS and FRN notes.

We can bite the deflationary bullet now, and begin the healing, or we can multiply the monster 10 fold, all the way down, and bite the really big shew later. And no, I do not believe handing governments and their central banks more consent is a panacea. It was our consent that created this fiasco.

It's presently all held together by confidence, an emotion. An Emotion! AN EMOTION!!!



As in "fire" in crowded theaters, and fire crackers in feed lots?


And these human emotions are expressed by both the rulers and the ruled. Sheeesh, why do I scare myself like this? Oh, Halloween!
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by pipefit #5831
"The only thing that I ever really broke even on has been the coffee can of pre 65 coins I filtered out of the laundry mat change machines back in the late 60's."

Uh, you would mean 'silver', lol.

Put your savings, from your hard work, in cash? As in the dollars? Why? Those dollars are being systematically inflated into a state of worthlessness
by the Department of Inflation, oops, I mean the Federal Reserve Bank. And the Dept. of Inflation just announced they are going to speed up the inflation process by an order of magnitude.

Yeah, it is possible we have a fascist coup, and they confiscate everybody's wealth and lock everyone up in a gulag. Dollars won't do you any good in that situation either.

I think you need to start with a premise that allows you to live a decent, if not spectacular, life, and proceed on that basis. Democracy will not survive a deflation more severe than we had in 2009, neither here nor in Canada. Anyone that is that sure about it should not be here. Maybe Yukon or Alaska? South America, near the Amazon? Not sure about that.

Far more likely, they run the dollar into the tarmac, then roll out the new 1-world currency, appointing themselves and their associates a huge bankroll of the new stuff, and giving us 99% ers and tiny bankroll to get started, or perhaps nothing but the clothes on our backs, as long as they don't have any fancy designer labels on them, lol.
Posted: 6 months, 4 weeks ago by Variable81 #5830
@Professorlocknload,

You're right that $1.7k of .223 rounds is much heavier than $1.7k of gold from a weight basis - though I think I did point out that one of gold's strengths is that it is highly concentrated wealth and thus easily transportable.

I still think .223 rounds are more 'divisable' as I've never broken down a 1oz gold coin into hundreds of little pieces - I'm sure it could be done and thus I suppose I could learn how to do it, but it doesn't seem as plausible to me as trading a handful of .223 rounds for a few loaves of bread.

Also, I believe I might have also been unfairly painted as a 'gun nut' or anarchist simply because I referenced rifle rounds. I wasn't trying to suggest I would use them to "shoot up the law" or anything that extreme - but .223 & .308 rounds are certainly valuable for hunting and varmint/pest control.

Can't view the video you embedded - browser doesn't seem to like it? Sorry.

And I don't know what I would do with a full-auto M4 either, aside from getting tossed into a Canadian jail for illegal possession of a prohibited firearm!

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