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    Edwin Rosskam Provincetown, Massachusetts 1937 Michael Moore once famously – though by no means famously enough yet, because he was so dead-on – said
    [See the full post at: About That Interview]

    #17686
    John Day
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    Here are a couple of good articles about that Sony hack. The FBI was really late to the party with its secon-round-unfounded-accusations, sorta’ like Iraqi WMDs.
    American Everyman takes a good look at it with references and snippets, Ilargi-style.
    https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2014/12/20/the-fbis-new-statement-on-the-sony-hack-is-bunk-here-is-the-real-story-of-the-sony-hack/
    North Korea says it can PROVE it didn’t do the hack (a hard thing to do), and without resorting to CIA-style torture.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-20/defiant-north-korea-says-can-prove-it-not-behind-hack-without-resorting-torture-cia

    #17687
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    America/Americans are firmly in the grip of lunatics…

    #17688
    John Day
    Participant

    Ellen Brown teases out that Trojan Horse to TBTF Bankers for their derivatives losses, in the CROmnibus bill, which is now law. It’s just this little 5% of derivatives exposure, nothing really, and all in the commodities arena, things like crude oil, mostly.
    There’s about $16 trillion in backing to banks on those price hedges they sold so many of to drillers and oil companies, which are fabulously out-of-the-money now.
    Whew! Just in time…

    Russian Roulette: Taxpayers Could Be on the Hook for Trillions in Oil Derivatives

    #17689
    Golden Oxen
    Participant

    The entire Interview episode is “Imbeciles in Action”

    Much Ado About Nothing.

    #17690
    Diogenes Shrugged
    Participant

    The official, but discredited Benghazi narrative had something to do with Muslims being offended by a dumb YouTube video. The absence of an adequate rescue attempt suggested to some people that the whole affair was a CIA false-flag setup.

    The official Sony hack narrative has something to do with Communists being offended by a dumb movie. Drop the other shoe. Was a CIA false-flag setup waiting in the wings thwarted? It sure seems to me like Obama and McCain wanted that movie shown.

    Had the movie been shown, what would have happened? Maybe another 9/11 sort of thing. A small, CIA-planted nuke to vaporize a Japanese city, the talking heads immediately blaming Kim, speculation that he was scoring points with China, and a loud drumbeat for regime change.

    And then … regime change.

    Just a conspiracy theory. Never mind. Everything in the world is exactly as it appears on the surface.

    #17691
    Diogenes Shrugged
    Participant

    “I think if anything defines 2014 for me, it’s the advent of incessant claims for which no proof – apparently – needs to be provided. ”

    Exactly. Intentionally. By design. It’s all part of the plan.

    #17696
    Dr. Diablo
    Participant

    Not to be a killjoy, but nouns are the ONLY thing you can declare war on. Nouns such as “France”, “Russia” or “Nazi Germany.” You could even declare war (although less-successfully) on abstract nouns like “murder,” “poverty,” or “discontent.”

    What you CAN’T declare war on is a METHOD. “Terrorism” for example, is a method. So is the cavalry charge. But if someone is your enemy, it doesn’t do much to declare their method of attack illegal does it? You already vowed to murder them. Like, say, if Kentucky riflemen are shooting at the bright red “X” of your Regulars? If you’re already at war with them for other reasons, the method of combat used is really beside the point, nor if you stopped using that method would the war miraculously end, for the root difference of culture and outlook would remain. Gripes about method are just sour grapes for when you adolescently hoped your enemy would attack you where you are strong instead of where you were weak. Newsflash: in the adult world, that never happens.

    A noun is a person, place, or thing.

    #17697
    Rapala
    Participant

    Raul, firstly to say thank you for daily writing effort, I regard it as the most important read of the day and feel I have been educated no end with regard to some complex issues. Another writer I greatly admire is John Hussman for his fact based historical analysis of the market. In his latest weekly comment he makes a conclusion that the USD is roughly 10% overvalued at present. I felt his evidence for such a conclusion was uncharacteristically weak and unsubstantial.

    I know in the past you have had the view that the USD will tend to strengthen, would you care to agree/ dispute his conclusion?

    #17702
    SteveB
    Participant

    Rapala, all prices/valuations rise or fall not in continuous fashion but with adjustments along the way. The dollar appears to have finished a large upward wave, so a 10% correction (or more) is a reasonable call at this stage. After that the larger upward trend will resume.

    #17703
    SteveB
    Participant

    Good catch, Dr. Diablo. To refine it further, I think it would be more accurate to say that you can’t declare war on a thing (or place). War is on people. What do you think?

    #17704

    Rapala, complex story with many factors playing in. I glances through John’s piece, and I’m for instance not sure I like his harking back to 2000 for a euro valuation, I think things have changed too much to still run with that. What I think will be important in boosting the USD is emerging markets, from which dollars will find their way home. I don’t think the US will like it, or at least not the full extent of it, but what can they do?

    #17706
    Arttua
    Participant

    “Emails Reveal US State Department Influenced Sony’s “The Interview” so as to Encourage Assassination and Regime Change in North Korea
    The emails also reveal that a RAND corporation senior defense analyst who consulted on the film went beyond “blessing” and outright influenced the end of the film, encouraging the CEO of Sony Entertainment to leave the assassination scene as it was (in spite of misgivings at Sony) for the sake of encouraging North Koreans to actually assassinate Kim Jong-Un and depose his regime when the movie eventually leaks into that country.”
    This quote is from https://ricefarmer.blogspot.com/ which is referencing https://antiwar.com/blog/2014/12/18/state-dept-the-interview/, this site is unavailble right now other wise I would give more details.

    #17707
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    Memory may be amiss but the referred remark was to the effect:

    … you cannot declare war on a tactic

    sometimes recall in an era of amnesia – only for the brave. YMMV

    #17708
    Dr. Diablo
    Participant

    Not sure, when I wrote it I was surprised to discover you could declare war on an abstract, or maybe even a method if you’re crazy enough to try, the problem was that the effect was ever-less successful. So a people as an abstract is no better. All of them everywhere? The Race? The nation? Who owns passports? Those who are in the resistance? Who knows? The point is it’s all UNSUCCESSFUL, poor prosecutions of war.

    #17709
    khiori
    Participant

    Raul,

    You nailed it. Have a Happy Holiday!

    Khiori

    #17712
    Professorlocknload
    Participant

    Diversions, diversions,,,everywhere diversions.

    #17713
    hidflect
    Participant

    This is the best article I’ve found on the issue to date:

    Why the Sony hack is unlikely to be the work of North Korea.

    #17715
    ChimpWithBigIdeas
    Participant

    The obvious comparison which I have not seen anywhere in the (British) media is with Hillary Mantel’s recent short story called “The Assassination of Margaret Thatcher” published in a collection of the same name. This was published after Thatcher was actually dead, and there was a huge outcry from the same people complaining about The Interview’s cancellation.

    #17726
    LudwigVon60
    Participant

    I think the answer to the question why NK has to take the beating is in this :

    “Imagine if General Shoigu and Premier Li Keqiang were discussing North Korea. Background: Putin has been reaching out to Glorius Leader Kim’s regime, and we know the deal Putin would want to get done with Pyongyang’s regime: Give up the nukes, and the Double Helix will protect you. Give up the nukes and we’ll force the U.S. to leave the Korean peninsular. Give up the nukes and China and Russia will develop your infrastructure. Give up the nukes and begin integration with the South economically and that process will include Russia and China. Give up the nukes and you will never walk alone.

    North Korea could look at Iran and see that Russia and China have shielded Iran. And if Iran moves away from nukes, the Double Helix protects her. Syria has given up chemical weapons and Syria, for all the ISIS and NATO chaos, stands because of Russia and China.

    Let us take a look again at General Shoigu’s itinerary. Who did Shoigu go to after Beijing? Pakistan. Who aids North Korean nuke program? Pakistan. Shoigu was not traveling this route in this sequence by happenchance. (35) China is drawing Pakistan away from the U.S. and wants to coordinate anti-terror operations with Islamabad. There also is the withdrawal of NATO and the U.S. from Afghanistan. Russia, China and Pakistan will take on this burden in order to get development of the Eurasian Silk Road and Economic Belt established. Everything is changing in South Asia. China and Russia will fill the vacuum. (36)

    It is quite the nature of China to encourage Russia to send symbolic messages to those who might need another tap on the head. Iran and North Korea are regional and global threats that the Double Helix wants to turn into partners and markets.

    Tough Cop?

    Shoigu went forward with that “portfolio”. He represented ‘the base-paired one’. The Chinese know their limits and their weaknesses. They might bully the Southeast neighboring fishermen and even cut off an American naval ship. But they are not the tough cop Russia is. The Chinese are the soft interlocutor, the mollifier. The only time China gets tough is in business negotiations or if you insult the Party or the People.

    However, this nuclear disarming or chemical weapons disarming small regimes is the rough and tumble of the street and alleys, something Russia knows and China does not aspire to. It takes a 8th Dan martial arts President who destroys opponents with his armed forces in real world combat to get the focused attention of Pyongyang and Islamabad. He did in Syria and is doing it in Iran. He generally uses military protective shield with economic development deals.

    North Korea is desperately trying to weaponize their atomic devices. (37) Pakistan would be the bearer of this technology. It is conceivable Pakistan’s military assistance deal with Russia, signed by Shoigu, would have ‘rewards’ for staying out of North Korea’s nuclear program.

    The meeting in Beijing just may have been to assure Shoigu that all the financing needed to stabilize the Korean peninsula will be available if and when Putin gets Kim to join with the sovereignists and force the Hegemon off the Korean Peninsula.

    Putin invited Kim to Moscow for the 70th anniversary celebration of the Soviet victory over Germany. This follows Putin’s meeting with the special envoy of Kim, Choe Ryong-hae, who was invited by Putin one month ago, in November 2014. (38) Personal meetings and messages are going back and forth and it’s not about victory day next year.

    Regional Effect

    What this would mean for China and Russia beyond safety and security is a new market, more easily exploited mineral resources, a fast developing economy that can use what both nations have. North Korea can add additional military as regional reserve forces should the Hegemon linger in Asian Pacific. Nuclear disarmament automatically means South Korea is actively drawn into the Eurasian Economic Belt. It leaves the region with no threat against the Hegemon’s allies, Japan and Philippines. America’s Pacific Century ends when the nukes go away in North Korea.”

    #17760
    Diogenes Shrugged
    Participant

    LudwigVon60, please provide attribution for your lengthy quote. Was it one of the featured articles today? I objected to the author’s absurd misuse of the term “double helix,” but I also disagreed with the pseudo-erudite analysis. I’d just like to know who not to waste time reading in the future. Thanks.

    #17799
    Gravity
    Participant

    The leaked emails reveal concerns about the movies profitability, speculating it would be a commercial flop. The production company stated that the hacking is likely to have been an inside job, requiring familiarity with the email accounts.
    Because this movie is now perceived as important, controversial and exclusive, with limited availability, instead of remaining obscure, its commercial success is ensured, maybe tripling box office returns because of this much-publicised hacking incident.

    Hence there exists a motive, and also exclusive means and opportunity, for Sony to have hacked themselves as a marketing ploy to sell this movie. The US gov. could have collaborated in the narrative for an easy opportunity to demonise NK, or to create another mandate for tyrannical cybersecurity legislation. This account seems more likely than an actual political cyber attack by NK.

    Gravity is the Supreme Ultimate algorithm.

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