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    Dorothea Lange Missouri drought family on U.S. 99 near Tracy, California February 1937 If we get even the simplest things wrong, and we do it on a con
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    #13767
    jpfi
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    To paraphrase Upton Sinclair: Its difficult to get a man to understand something when his comfort depends upon his not understanding it.

    Ergo; debt, deficit, fossil fuel depletion, climate change are not understandable.

    As the tobacco guys said “our message is doubt”. The climate change deniers have now taken up the cause.

    Maybe TAE should do the same? Where is the proof that the economy can grow forever? Where is the proof that your pension is going to be paid? Maybe the seeds of doubt grow better in the human mind than obvious but uncomfortable facts.

    #13768
    TheTrivium4TW
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    There is so much confusion… and that confusion leads to more confusion and prevents people from understanding what is really going on. We then become unwitting gatekeepers for those who are admittedly controlling and manipulating us into their agenda… The Money Power Agenda.

    Ben and Jerry’s money stamp campaign has a stamp that succinctly explains our situation better than I ever could… “The system is broken, it is fixed.”

    IT IS FIXED!

    Yes, children, RICH PEOPLE CONSPIRE TO CONTROL AND DIRECT SOCIETY, THAT’S WHY THEY FUND PROPAGANDA TO DISPARAGE “CONSPIRACY THEORY!”

    They want the weak minded to obey their visceral response to the Money Power propaganda programmming.

    We don’t even understand debt based money and the fifth grade math based fraudulent ramifications…

    If $20 is lent to society @ 5% interest by The Big Money Power Special Interest Club, in one year society has $20 and owes $21.

    The Money Power Club controls the $1 that is required to pay down the debt or force the nation into bankruptcy.

    And yes, every $20 lent to society has this problem – AND YOU CAN’T MAKE UP DEBT BY ADDING MORE DEBT, NO MATTER HOW MUCH MORE DEBT YOU ADD, SO QUITE MAKING EXCUSES AND EMBRACE THE 5TH GRADE MATH AND YOUR OWN BRAIN POWER.

    Here is a chart for the graqphically inclined:

    Debt Money Tyranny
    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

    IF THE GOVERNMENT WERE SOVEREIGN PEOPLE, IT WOULDN’T ALLOW A PRIVATE SPECIAL INTEREST TO CONTROL THE DARN MONEY SUPPLY, LET ALONE THE VERY DEFINITION OF MONEY AS DEBT TO THESE CRIMINAL MONETARY ALCHEMISTS 2.0 (they don’t even need lead to issue debt and turn the debt recepts – money to the slave class – into solid gold).

    And yes, I’m yelling from the darn roof tops because this is the Rosetta Stone to understanding the world.

    From th eperspective of the “elites” that Zbigniew Brzezinski claims run the world, THE SYSTEM IS WORKING FANTASTICAL.

    They are TBTF&Jail. They launder trillions in drug money and are above prosecution. The bribe Jefferson County officials and steal almost $1 billion from tax payers – and they don’t get charged AND GET TO KEEP THE DARN LOOT! Their operatives steal billions from segregated accounts AND THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW – EVEN AFTER THEY LIED TO CONGRESS UNDER OATH!

    They are eliminating the “sin” – the term Money Power Rockefeller used to define his competition… Sin is defined by Rockefeller as “competition” to the Rockefeller God Of This World, if you know what I mean.

    The monetary system is a Trojan Horse fraud.

    It is being operated by CONSPIRATORS to bankrupt society through fraud.

    PS – “Dr. Mary’s Monkey” is an excellent book and well worth the read. There is a systematic effort to lie to the Muppets… control and manipulate us… and this is admitted fact…

    “In the technotronic society the trend would seem to be towards the aggregation of the individual support of millions of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach of magnetic and attractive personalities exploiting the latest communications techniques to manipulate emotions and control reason.”
    ― Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era

    What’s the end goal from their own world renown historian?

    In addition to these pragmatic goals, the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank, in the hands of men like Montagu Norman of the Bank of England, Benjamin Strong of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, Charles Rist of the Bank of France, and Hjalmar Schacht of the Reichsbank, sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.
    ~Professor Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, Council on Foreign Relations Historian

    #13770
    ₿oogaloo
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    Perpetual growth is a requirement of the modern banking system.

    https://www.peakprosperity.com/video/224/playlist/153/chapter-8-fed-money-creation

    #13772
    Dr. Diablo
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    Preachin’ to the choir, Trivium.

    Perpetual growth is anathema to a DEBT-based FIAT system based on interest. But that’s not the only type of economy, or banking, one could choose. But I need not say that the transition from our system to a differently-based one would be disruptive.

    It’s not a capitalist-based system, as “capitalism” or “Free market” (not rigged market) is just a way of saying we have the right to make stuff and trade among ourselves. That seems hard to argue against as what benevolent master would prevent us? The 10,000 years in North America for example, there was unlimited free-trade with a stable-state system, even using a poorly-based, ever-inflating money system such as wampum. Yet the economy didn’t necessarily expand exponentially, nor need to, but held at a steady-state with massive long-distance trade for hundreds of years.

    So there were guns and black iron pots and broadcloth through the native trade routes from 1550 to 1800, continuous 250 years. Yet before the theft of the land and transfer to the white land-and-bank ways, the society and economy was stable enough to vacillate around sustainability for another 1,000 years. This is in contradiction to today’s environmentalists who want to take out so much technology that we’d return to living in caves — they mistake the cartoonish exaggeration of a thing with the thing itself being bad: a common mistake. If you read Major General Sullivan’s 1779 march on the Iroquois in the Seneca area, you discover they were as much if not more advanced than the colonists. This includes log cabins, dooryard gardens, orchards, and fields extending to the thousands of acres. They had the windows, guns, hinges, pots, and other kit equivalent to their white counterparts. In fact, the Seneca at over 1,000 men were by far the largest army on the continent.

    Point? Their economy was large, traded freely, had a high standard of living, physically and even moreso socially, and was yet completely sustainable.

    So…we know we can do it. We could probably do it now, even at even a far higher level of population and technology. But to do so we’d have to change our minds. So doing the obvious thing, the happy thing, the thing that saves our lives, is the most unlikely thing of all.

    #13783
    natureisnature
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    “If We Get Even The Simplest Things Wrong ..” is one of the best literary expression. “A system that has reached the boundaries to its growth potential tends to self destruct” is “a true, tested, and withstanding expression of observation of space-time”.

    “Wrong” is “death”. “right” is “existence”… for “most people” most likely.

    “Finality” = “End”.
    ∵ “Finality” = “Unknown”,
    ∴ Instant = Eternity.
    If “End” = Instant, then “End” = Eternity.

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