Snowden, Putin, Greece: It’s All The Same Story

 

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    Milton Greene “Actress Marilyn Monroe in bed” 1955 Through the last decades, as we have been getting ever more occupied trying to be what society tell
    [See the full post at: Snowden, Putin, Greece: It’s All The Same Story]

    #21602
    seychelles
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    “When signing a post-cold war strategic cooperation pact with Russia in 1997, Nato pledged not to station ground forces permanently in eastern Europe “in the current and foreseeable security environment”. But that environment has been transformed…”

    Situational ethics in action. Control the media to alter perception of a situation so that your ethics, i. e. no ethics, appears valid in any particular instance. Pure Kohanim-speak, which clearly indicates who is pulling the strings these days in major media, Washington, the central banks, NATO and the CIA. A hateful, inhumane, racist agenda that worships unlimited money, power, and sex (Strauss-Kahn) and which is poorly-perceived by the working class, whose energies are primarily directed at paying off high debt levels which TPTB have sucessfully propagandized as normal and necessary.

    #21603
    TheTrivium4TW
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    >>It’s true for the IMF, which was always only a tool for US domination.<<
    Please be more concise in the way you use words or else you communicate misinformation.
    The “US” doesn’t actually exist – it is an abstraction. When you use and overly general broad term like “US,” you, in fact, play the role of gatekeeper because you protect the very small group of people who set up the IMF to serve THEIR OWN PERSONAL INTERESTS. The IMF is actually a debt generating weapon used to facilitate the societal asset stripping of… you guess it… The U.S. – United States!
    The IMF was engineered to protect one group of people and that group of people is international in nature. They aren’t beholden to any nation state, THEY RUN THE DEBT-MONEY SYSTEM OF ALMOST ALL NATION STATES AND FINANCE ALMOST ALL GOVERNMENTS ON EARTH THROUGH THEIR CORPORATE FRONT BANKING INSTITUTIONS. THEY ALSO FINANCE THE POLITICIANS AND THE MEDIA THAT PROMOTES THEM!
    And you, albeit probably unwittingly, protect them by lumping in, say, me, with that criminal group that is the enemy of what I value – goodness.
    The Debt-Money Monopoly actually exists. THE MORE MEDIA PEOPLE LIKE YOU CONCEAL THEM FROM THE PUBLIC, THE MORE DAMAGE THEY CAN DO TO THE ORDINARY CITIZENS.
    And, no, people… don’t fall for the same over generalization fallacy that has benighted Ilargi… The problem is not “The Jews.” The average person who views themselves as Jewish is a victim of these arch-criminals as well. It appears the Rothschild’s, European Royalty, Rockefellers, etc… have leveraged many “assets” from the Jewish community, but that only reflects on the individual people who signed up for the evil. Note that Rockefeller is a Debt-Money Monopolist demon spawn and he isn’t Jewish. Also note that most Jewish have no idea how debt-money works to impoverish their society, too. 250k Jews took the streets to protest their criminal Debt-Money Monopolist financed government because they were sick of the oppression, too!

    #21605
    tandy
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    Good insight into the Snowden article from a former UK Ambassador
    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/06/five-reasons-the-mi6-story-is-a-lie/#comments

    #21607

    tandy,

    yeah, read that too last night. plus Ryan Gallagher’s piece:

    https://notes.rjgallagher.co.uk/2015/06/sunday-times-snowden-china-russia-questions.html

    #21608
    rapier
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    Here is the latest from Steven Cohen.
    https://www.thenation.com/blog/209673/stephen-cohen-kerrys-negotiations-putin-are-being-sabotaged-washington

    I’m surprised he is surprised that the meeting between Putin and Kerry a few weeks ago where Kerry signaled the US was throwing in the towel on Kiev and the whole project of provocation and instead was embracing the Minsk Accord, a total reversal, was reversed again within days. I knew this would happen. Obama is far to weak to oppose the US war party. His role is to follow the elite consensus. They either read him the riot act or simply ignored the Kerry visit and went about their Putin fear mongering ways, probably the latter, so Obama goes along.

    War with Russia, semi hot, is vital to keeping the EU together. It’s vital to keeping even things like unlimited Fed ease on course. I even think it will be used as a reason for regime change in Greece.

    #21613
    zkiddia
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    Raúl,

    Thanks for many excellent posts. I´ve found your writing very informative for quite a while now. But – I´m writing to express my disappointment with much of your writings on Russia. Sadly I´m now finding it childishly one-dimensional, in a less crude but similar fashion as ZeroHedge´s low quality commentary on the situation. To be clear, I´m with you on most of your criticism on the West´s manner and hypocritical dealings towards Russia. Yet I am dissapointed with how far you go in washing up Putin´s own hypocritical and corrupt dealings. I believe there is a third dialogue here, one that does justice to the faults of both regimes, the aggression of both regimes.

    With regards, from Reykjavik.

    #21615
    Hotrod
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    Hillary vs. Jeb is all you need to know about our dysfunctional society. We’ll end up with one of these Neocons for certain. It is preordained.

    #21616
    ₿oogaloo
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    zkiddia,
    Corruption, yes, I follow you. But aggression? What aggression?

    #21618
    Babble
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    ilargi states: “Do we need to repeat that Russia didn’t attack Ukraine? That if after all this time there is still zero proof for that, perhaps it’s time to let go of that idea?”

    Really, your think your readers are so stupid that they will believe the illargi propaganda about Russia. Russia has attacked Ukraine, taken over Crimea and the eastern front, this is beyond question. While Snowden may be telling the truth about his files, that is just a head fake for your pro Russian bull. You act as if Russia was a bastion of openness which call into question the purpose of anything you post.

    #21619
    Nassim
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    zkiddia,

    Ordinary Russians today are far better off than was the case when Putin got his position. What you call corruption is normal business in the West. For example, when pharmaceutical companies gang up to change patent laws to allow them to make monopoly profits that is OK. Besides, where is the proof that Putin has enormously enriched himself. What is the point anyway. He is not about to flee to Israel with his loot. He has nowhere to go to.

    #21620
    V. Arnold
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    @ Babble

    Telling user name…

    #21629
    Anonymous
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    Snowden in most circumstances, when there is a free press would be celebrated as a hero and a nationalist, who uncovered unconstitutionally behaviors.

    #21709
    zkiddia
    Participant

    Nassim, and Boogaloo,

    The question is not about how well off the Russians are now versus before Putin´s era, no more than the west´s actions should be judged by the buying power of people living in New York or Paris.

    As for aggression, here are some new insights into one of Putin´s faces:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/witness/2015/06/chechnya-war-trace-150617141406868.html

    K

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