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JMW Turner Lake Llanberis and Snowdon Color Study c.1800

 

Pa. Commonwealth Court Orders Halt To Certification Process (PG)
Sidney Powell Sues Georgia Officials: ‘Massive Scheme To Rig Election’ (JTN)
Giuliani, Trump Pull Off ‘One Hell Of A Hearing’ On PA Election Fraud (ZH)
Trump Pardons Ex-National Security Adviser Michael Flynn (JTN)
Supreme Court Strikes Down Cuomo’s COVID Restrictions On Religious Services
Should COVID19 Vaccines Be Mandatory? (Conv.)
Cuba Could be on the Brink of a Revolutionary COVID Vaccine (MPN)
WHO Names Line-up For International Team Looking Into Coronavirus Origins (SCMP)
EU Parliament Votes Against Referring to Julian Assange in Rights Report (Sp.)

 

 


If the same percentage of votes were rejected as in 2016, Trump would win

 

 

A man does not yield when the mere universe has turned against him; he yields when his own heart has turned against him. We surrender, not when circumstances are miserable, but when we are miserable.

– G. K. Chesterton

 

 

Let the chips fall where they may.

Pa. Commonwealth Court Orders Halt To Certification Process (PG)

Pennsylvania is prohibited from certifying the rest of its election results in down ballot races — and from taking any further action in regards to yesterday’s certification of the presidential race — pending a hearing on Friday in an appellate court, or intervention by the state Supreme Court. The Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania, in an order signed by Judge Patricia McCullough, issued an injunction Wednesday that stops the state from continuing its certification, and intends to hear evidence in a case filed by U.S. Rep. Mike Kelly and GOP congressional candidate Sean Parnell about the constitutionality of mail-in ballots. Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar, Gov. Tom Wolf and the state — named as defendants in the suit — appealed the Commonwealth Court order to the state Supreme Court.

As it stands now, the hearing in Commonwealth Court is scheduled for 11:30 a.m. Friday. The state certified the results in the race for president on Tuesday, giving its 20 electoral votes to Democrat Joe Biden and his running mate, California Sen. Kamala Harris. The court order said the state is prohibited from acting “to the extent that there remains any further action to perfect the certification of the results” of the races for president and vice president. Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro wrote on Twitter that the order “does not impact yesterday’s appointment of electors.” In their suit, Mr. Kelly and Mr. Parnell are arguing that state lawmakers violated Pennsylvania’s Constitution by adopting Act 77 last year, which expanded the mail-in balloting option to let all qualified voters to vote by mail without an excuse.

They allege that absentee voting — which required an excuse from a set of allowed reasons — was rebranded as no-excuse mail-in voting “absent any constitutional authority.” The Republican-controlled state Legislature responded, in legal filings, that the case should be dismissed because Act 77 didn’t alter the requirements of who constitutes a qualified voter, and that the Legislature is constitutionally authorized to prescribe the method by which those electors may cast their votes.

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And now you need evidence.

Sidney Powell Sues Georgia Officials: ‘Massive Scheme To Rig Election’ (JTN)

Prominent defense attorney Sidney Powell sued Georgia’s top officials late Wednesday, alleging in federal court that the GOP-run state government permitted a massive voter fraud scheme that rigged the Nov. 3 election in favor of Democrat Joe Biden. The suit was filed in U.S. District Court in Atlanta on behalf of several Georgia residents, electors and Republican Party officials and named Gov. Brian Kemp, Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and state election board members as defendants. The 104-page complaint asked the court to issue an injunction “prohibiting the Governor and Secretary of State from transmitting the currently certified results to the Electoral College based on the overwhelming evidence of election tampering.”

“The fraud was executed by many means, but the most fundamentally troubling, insidious, and egregious is the systemic adaptation of old-fashioned ‘ballot-stuffing,'” Powell’s suit alleged. “It has now been amplified and rendered virtually invisible by computer software created and run by domestic and foreign actors for that very purpose. Mathematical and statistical anomalies rising to the level of impossibilities, as shown by affidavits of multiple witnesses, documentation, and expert testimony evince this scheme across the state of Georgia. “This scheme and artifice to defraud affected tens of thousands of votes in Georgia alone and ‘rigged’ the election in Georgia for Joe Biden,” the suit added.

Powell’s suit made a variety of allegations, including that:

• At least 96,600 absentee ballots were requested and counted but were never recorded as being returned to county election boards by the voter. “Thus, at a minimum, 96,600 votes must be disregarded,” the suit said.
• Kemp and Raffensperger “rushed through the purchase of Dominion voting machines and software in 2019 for the 2020 Presidential Election” without due diligence and disregarded safety concerns.
• “There is incontrovertible physical evidence that the standards of physical security of the voting machines and the software were breached, and machines were connected to the internet in violation of professional standards and state and federal laws.”
• Fulton County election workers used a claim of a water leak to evacuate poll watchers and workers for several hours on Election night, even as “several election workers remained unsupervised and unchallenged working at the computers for the voting tabulation machines until after 1:00 AM.
• State officials in a settlement with Democratic parties made changes to election procedures that violated both state law and the U.S. Constitution.

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Quite the video footage.

Giuliani, Trump Pull Off ‘One Hell Of A Hearing’ On PA Election Fraud (ZH)

Upon the request of Pennsylvania Senator Doug Mastriano (R), the state’s Senate Majority Policy Committee is holding a public hearing to discuss election issues and irregularities at 12:30 ET. Former NYC Mayor and current Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani will appear. President Trump was slated to join him, only to cancel following adviser Boris Epshteyn’s Covid-19 diagnosis.

[..] President Trump joined the PA hearing by phone and was immediately on the offense, saying that “this is an election we won easily. We won it by a lot. This election has to be turned around.” “What we saw on November 3rd was not the United States of America. Democrats cheated. It was a fraudulent election. It would be very easy for me to wait 4 years and try again. We can’t wait for 4 years. Don’t be intimidated by these people. They don’t love our country!” “They kept poll watchers in pens in Philadelphia and then they threw them out of the building. You couldn’t see a thing on those cameras. They could have been playing a baseball game.”

“It’s a disgrace this is happening to our country. We got 11 million more votes than we did 4 years ago. At 10pm in the evening we were way ahead. Everybody knows we won it. The whole world is watching us. We can’t let them get away with this. We have more votes than voters!” Trump ends his remarks by telling Giuliani over speakerphone: “This is going to be your crowning achievement because you’re saving our country.”

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Pardoned against his will. But the court case would never have finished, so he’s relieved all the same.

Trump Pardons Ex-National Security Adviser Michael Flynn (JTN)

President Trump on Wednesday fully pardoned his former national security adviser Michael Flynn, bringing to end a tumultuous four-year criminal case that felled the three-star general before prosecutors reversed course and declared they had improperly pursued his prosecution. Flynn, a retired Army lieutenant general, had pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about talking with a Russian diplomat during the 2016 Trump administration transition period. Attorney General William Barr earlier this year asked a federal court in Washington, D.C., to allow the Justice Department to drop the case. However, the matter has since been tied up in legal proceedings.

Trump informed the general and his lawyer Sidney Powell of the decision Wednesday afternoon, ahead of Thanksgiving Day. Flynn was elated by the news and the two men talked “like they had never missed a day since the campaign or early White House days,” an eyewitness told Just the News. Trump announced the news on his Twitter page. “It is my Great Honor to announce that General Michael T. Flynn has been granted a Full Pardon. Congratulations to @GenFlynn, and his wonderful family, I know you will now have a truly fantastic Thanksgiving!” he tweeted. Sidney Powell, the defense lawyer who doggedly sought to prove Flynn’s innocence post conviction, applauded the decision, suggesting it was necessary because the U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan had refused to dismiss the lying charge, even after DOJ pleaded it be done.

“The pardon of Michael Flynn is solely up to the President, but given the corruption we have witnessed in the judiciary and multiple agencies of government executed against General Flynn, this persecution should end,” she said. “The FBI and DOJ have been a national embarrassment for more than 15 years. It was my fervent hope to make our judicial system work to exonerate an innocent man–as all the Left would want were he anyone but Trump or Michael Flynn, but enough is enough. This is sick. It’s painfully obvious Judge Sullivan is playing an evil political game with a good man’s life and family. The entire country deserves better.”

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“But even in a pandemic, the Constitution cannot be put away and forgotten.”

Supreme Court Strikes Down Cuomo’s COVID Restrictions On Religious Services

The Supreme Court late Wednesday struck down New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s new COVID-19 restrictions on religious gatherings, as new Justice Amy Coney Barrett cast one of her first high-impact votes and Chief Justice John Roberts sided in dissent with the court’s liberal bloc. In a 5-4 decision, the court said Cuomo’s restrictions violated the Constitution’s First Amendment right to freedom of worship and granted an injunction barring the rules from being enforced. “Members of this Court are not public health experts, and we should respect the judgment of those with special expertise and responsibility in this area,” the majority opinion said. “But even in a pandemic, the Constitution cannot be put away and forgotten. The restrictions at issue here, by effectively barring many from attending religious services, strike at the very heart of the First Amendment’s guarantee of religious liberty.”


Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote a separate opinion siding with the conservative majority, saying churches and synagogues were treated differently than commercial institutions by the state. “It is time — past time — to make plain that, while the pandemic poses many grave challenges, there is no world in which the Constitution tolerates color-coded executive edicts that reopen liquor stores and bike shops but shutter churches, synagogues, and mosques,” Gorsuch argued. Roberts’ dissenting opinion accused the court of acting irrationally and disregarding the public health expertise of the state. “It is a significant matter to override determinations made by public health officials concerning what is necessary for public safety in the midst of a deadly pandemic,” he wrote.

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A for vs against discussion. Here’s the against part.

Should COVID19 Vaccines Be Mandatory? (Conv.)

Mandatory vaccination does not automatically increase vaccine uptake. An EU-funded project on epidemics and pandemics, which took place several years before COVID-19, found no evidence to support this notion. Looking at Baltic and Scandinavian countries, the project’s report noted that countries “where a vaccination is mandatory do not usually reach better coverage than neighbour or similar countries where there is no legal obligation”. According to the Nuffield Council of Bioethics, mandatory vaccination may be justified for highly contagious and serious diseases. But although contagious, Public Health England does not classify COVID-19 as a high-consequence infectious disease due to its relatively low case fatality rate.

COVID-19 severity is strongly linked with age, dividing individual perceptions of vulnerability within populations. The death rate is estimated at 7.8% in people aged over 80, but at just 0.0016% in children aged nine and under. In a liberal democracy, forcing the vaccination of millions of young and healthy citizens who perceive themselves to be at an acceptably low risk from COVID-19 will be ethically disputed and is politically risky. Public apprehensions for a novel vaccine produced at breakneck speed are wholly legitimate. A UK survey of 70,000 people found 49% were “very likely” to get a COVID-19 vaccine once available. US surveys are similar. This is not because the majority are anti-vaxxers.

Despite promising headlines, the trials and pharmaceutical processes surrounding them have not yet been scrutinised. With the first trials only beginning in April, there is limited data on long-term safety and efficacy. We don’t know how long immunity lasts for. None of the trials were designed to tell us if the vaccine prevents serious disease or virus transmission. To disregard these ubiquitous concerns would be counterproductive. As a tool for combating anti-vaxxers – estimated at around 58 million globally and making up a small minority of those not getting vaccinated – mandatory vaccines are also problematic. The forces driving scientific and political populism are the same. Anti-vaxxers do not trust experts, industry and especially not the government. A government mandate will not just be met with unshakeable defiance, but will also be weaponised to recruit others to the anti-vaxxer cause.

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“Cuban immunization developments are being seriously hamstrung by the actions of the U.S. government, primarily due to the decades-long blockade on the island..”

Cuba Could be on the Brink of a Revolutionary COVID Vaccine (MPN)

Cuba has announced positive and promising results for a number of separate COVID-19 vaccines it is currently developing, but U.S. sanctions against the small island nation are hampering the development and rollout of the potentially life-saving treatments. Two candidates, named Sovereign 1 and Sovereign 2, have generated antibodies blocking infection in animals and are showing similarly encouraging signs on tests on human subjects. Meanwhile, a separate vaccine, based on a protein from the hepatitis B virus, is unique in that it is delivered through the nasal tract and does not require a needle to administer.

Should any of these efforts ultimately succeed, the Caribbean nation — already a medical powerhouse that has developed a lung cancer vaccine and methods to stop mother-to-baby HIV and syphilis transmission— will likely become an important supplier to other Latin American and developing countries who have been effectively shut out from purchasing COVID vaccines from Western companies, as rich nations have already begun hoarding coronavirus medicines. Dr. Helen Yaffe of Glasgow University, author of “We Are Cuba!: How a Revolutionary People Have Survived in a Post-Soviet World,” was impressed and heartened by the news, telling MintPress:

“Cuba now has four COVID-specific vaccine candidates under clinical trial. The fact that a small Caribbean island can achieve such a remarkable feat is testimony to its state-owned biotech sector, which is directed towards public health demands and integrated into its healthcare and education systems. After years of being told that only the market can lead to efficiency and innovation, Cuba’s socialist planned economy demonstrates what is possible when there is political will, good coordination, organization and the priority of social welfare.”

However, Cuban immunization developments are being seriously hamstrung by the actions of the U.S. government, primarily due to the decades-long blockade on the island, something which the Cuban government estimates has cost it over 750 billion U.S. dollars. As Reuters reported, cash-strapped Cuba cannot afford to buy the raw materials necessary to upscale its vaccine development to help other countries. Hospitals face huge obstacles importing lifesaving equipment from abroad due to the blockade, while the sanctions force the country, which imports the large majority of its staples, to spend far more on food than other nations. As a result, almost one third of young children suffer from anemia due to the monotonous and sub-par nutrition available, according to the World Food Program.

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The WHO continues to play a debatable role.

WHO Names Line-up For International Team Looking Into Coronavirus Origins (SCMP)

The World Health Organization has named the scientists on an international team tracing the origins of the new coronavirus, as their mission gathers steam some 11 months after the virus was identified. The 10-person team includes public health experts, animal health specialists and virus hunters from Japan, Qatar, Germany, Vietnam, Russia, Australia, Denmark, the Netherlands, Britain and the United States. They will work alongside Chinese scientists on a set of investigations into how the virus that causes Covid-19 emerged and spilled over into humans, triggering a pandemic that has now claimed over 1.4 million lives.

The WHO on Monday said the names of the international team members had been shared with member states and released online, despite concerns about harassment given that the virus origins have become a highly contentious subject. “There has been a level of attack and abuse to people involved in international science. It is not an easy space to be in right now and let me be plain about that,” said Michael Ryan, executive director of the WHO Health Emergencies Programme. He pointed to hate mail and threats within a climate of “anti-science movements” and “ideologic politics”. “We would like to thank them for their openness and transparency and for allowing us to release their names. That’s not an easy choice,” he said at a news briefing.

[..] One hanging question is when the international team will join field studies on the ground in China, considered a critical part of the mission, which was called for by over 130 nations at a May meeting of the WHO’s governing body.
Ryan on Monday said they “fully expect” the international team will be on the ground for this work, and they would like the scientists to be “deployed as soon as possible”. “We have reassurances from our Chinese government colleagues that … a field part of the mission will be facilitated as soon as possible, in order that the international community can be reassured of the quality of the science,” he said.

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Cowards.

EU Parliament Votes Against Referring to Julian Assange in Rights Report (Sp.)

Any mention of the prosecution of Julian Assange has been removed from the EU’s latest report on fundamental rights, despite the best efforts of MEPs such as Ireland’s Clare Daly. The European Parliament passed the final version of the fundamental rights report for 2018 – 2019 on 25 November, excluding any mention of imprisoned publisher and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. An amendment to include reference to Mr Assange lost with 408 votes against its inclusion, 191 votes in favour and 93 abstentions. Chris Williamson, a former Labour MP and long-time supporter of Mr Assange, lamented the final vote, saying:

“This is a sad day for European democracy, freedom of speech and human rights. The European Parliament has failed to live up to its rhetoric about standing for fundamental rights. It has shown itself to be nothing more than a paper tiger that is content with being the US administration’s poodle”. The original draft of the fundamental rights report contained a passage saying that “the detention and criminal prosecution of Julian Assange sets a dangerous precedent for journalists as affirmed by the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe” But, according to Irish MEP Clare Daly, a committee of European parliamentarians made up of the European People’s Party (EPP), the Socialists and Democrats (S&D) and the Renew Europe party voted to remove the passage from the report, on 23 November.

The Left group of MEPs (European United Left/Nordic Green Left) and Ms Daly, who was actually in charge of preparing the original draft report, lobbied heavily for the passage to be returned into the final draft. In a video published on 23 November, Ms Daly called upon EU citizens to contact their MEPs and push them to reinsert the paragraph mentioning Mr Assange, via Amendment 44, in their final vote. “I believe that no report on the situation of fundamental rights in the European Union could possibly be taken seriously if it fails to mention the Trump administration’s radical and dangerous prosecution of a journalist for important journalism that was carried out in the European Union”, Ms Daley said in her message.

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  • #66060

    JMW Turner Lake Llanberis and Snowdon Color Study c.1800   • Pa. Commonwealth Court Orders Halt To Certification Process (PG) • Sidney Powell Sue
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle November 26 2020]

    #66061

    a kullervo
    Participant

    The road to oblivion is paved with memorable quotes.

    #66062

    Basseterre Kitona
    Participant

    The is no reason to begin with mandatory vaccination. Firstly, although the numbers vary, it is somewhere between 20% and 70% of a population that needs immunity to knock down the likelihood of an outbreak to almost zero. If you can reach those numbers voluntarily, then no reason to force the vaccination.

    Secondly, many people such as myself are immediately suspicious and inclined to resist if something becomes mandatory. Mask are perfect example. I was often wearing on a voluntary basis early this year. But as soon as petty gov tyrants started making it mandatory, I immediately began to resist. I almost never wear it now as I simply avoid most paces where it is necessary.

    Thirdly, forced vaccinations especially with experimental drug technology such as mRNA vaccine if a violation of fundamental human right to sovereignty of own body and a denial of informed consent. Wasn’t much of the Nuremberg Trial about that kind of stuff? The proposed forced vaccinations are borderline Nazi kind of stuff.

    #66063

    El Cartero Atomico
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    Whenever hearing reports that the election was rigged, I immediately think of course it was rigged. But not just this election. Throughout my almost 50 years of voting for a president the choice has always been the evil of two lessers. Unless you vote for a third party that receives no media coverage and are not permitted to participate in the debates. I am a former true believer in the US, even spent three years in the army, but at this point in my life I see no reason to be concerned if Trump was cheated. In fact, with all the “cheating” he has done in his life, and not just on his wives, it may just be good old karma catching up with him.

    #66065

    Dr. D
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    “Do what you’re told!!!”

    Ah Roberts, does whatever he’s told. Now to the left of Ginsberg. But we knew that.

    And speaking of doing what you’re told:

    “EU Parliament Votes Against Referring to Julian Assange in Rights Report”

    You know who else doesn’t have rights? Everyone in Europe. No freedom of speech, no freedom of assembly, no freedom of opinions. It’s the water canon for you! Then we go arrest you at your house. No one knows why, no one cares, you just disappear. You did not love Mater enough, when immigrants from war zones raped your daughters, you expressed inadequate joy at the sight and privilege of hosting them. You disliked being reduced below peasants and serfs (serfs have rights) while banks got trillions and EU ministers got millions in expenses for a few hours work. Don’t you know you own nothing? Everything is OURS. Your house, your job, your life, you sacred honor, your body, your mind, even your sons and daughters loaded on planes to St. James. Ours. YOU OWN NOTHING AND YOU’LL LIKE IT.

    Planning to do something yet? We’re not going to be able to help you for a bit because we’re busy right now.

    #66066

    Moo Foo Bay
    Participant

    Sidney Powell accuses the REPUBLICAN led state government of Georgia of permitting a massive scheme to favor the Democratic presential candidate Joe Biden. And no one said a peep until now?
    Similarly, attorney Powell claims the same Republicans “rushed” to buy the Dominion voting machines and software at least 1 year in advance of the election.

    Do these arguments make sense? Or are there more mundane and banal explanations? I’m hoping the truth will come out one way or the other. But Powell’s claims on these 2 matters seem exaggerated

    #66067

    zerosum
    Participant

    Old-fashioned ballot-stuffing” has been “amplified and rendered virtually invisible by computer software…
    Prove it – said the democrat
    Prove it – said the republican
    The people say – BOTH OF YOU – STOP THE CHEATING

    #66069

    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    @Moo Foo Bay

    They make sense in the context of Trump being an establishment outsider. Even his own party tried to torpedo his candidacy in 2016. DC is owned lock, stock, and barrel by the MIC and its corporatocracy. They are the ones who decide who sits in the White House, not ordinary peasants.

    Trump is a populist, his base being the flyover states who have been plundered and abused for over 20 years by the coastal elites. He is not a globalist, but a nationalist, and therefore out of step with their plans for global domination. So yes, the GOP hates Trump as much as the DNC.

    This mission statement was taken from the “Our Team” page of the Lincoln Project website:

    “The founders of the Lincoln project have spent over 200 years electing Republicans. But now, they’ve sparked a nationwide movement with a singular mission: To defeat Donald Trump and Trumpism.”

    Trump’s no Julius Caesar, but he is a populist, which is always seen as a danger to power. The peasants are not allowed to have any say in how the extracted money is divvied up. You never know when he might decide to crown himself kind and redistribute Noble estates to all the serfs.

    Caesar Assassination

    #66070

    Do we see umpteen reports addressing doubts about the AstraZeneca vaccine because there are so many more questions about it than about the others, or is it because it’s a threat to those other vaccines, and their prospective profits?

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    WES
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    It is interesting that Republican controlled states of Pennsylvania and Georgia are opposing President Trump’s re-election, not Democrats!

    Sydney Powell stands no chance in the courts as all judges are either Republicans or Democrats.

    The judges will simply ignore all of the evidence of election rigging she puts forth.

    They will simply rule that there is simply no evidence of election tampering.

    #66072

    Noirette
    Participant

    The origins of COV19 may be pertinent to its cure… Yes.

    // >> to Dr. Day re. Fort Detrick >> UpstateNYer, thx for those flu-tracker nos, very clear, on previous thread.//

    Charles Lieber, Harvard Prof. and part of the WUT (Wuhan U of Tech) Harvard Nano Key Lab, was arrested in Jan. 2020.

    npr https://n.pr/39klK50 (article does not detail how much Lieber was paid – was huge)

    economist https://econ.st/3m9tCty

    About the WUT, from Wuhan U Tech

    http://english.whut.edu.cn/wn/201301/t20130104_91316.html

    I’m not clear about what a Nano-Key is? I haven’t looked into it at all.

    Prof. Qiu, her biologist husband, and several students (doctoral I suppose), kicked out of level 4 lab in Canada in July 2019. Oct. 2019 news:

    cbs canada https://bit.ly/3m9ahZy

    science mag https://bit.ly/378KPgF

    Fort Detrick was closed down in July 2019, link describes ‘breaches’.. (reopened March 2020.)

    military com daily https://bit.ly/3q5R4dO

    Recall, Fort D. was at the heart of the Amerithrax scandal tied to 9/11. After hounding Steven Hatfill, who resisted, Bruce Ivins (an employee) was blamed and committed suicide.

    It looks like there were some weird distrubances in level 4 labs which surfaced in July 2019 and thereafter. Naturally this may be a case of noticing isolated, insignificant incidents and attributing some import to them, idk.

    #66073

    zerosum
    Participant

    INFLUENCERS
    ENABLERS

    (save the links for reference)
    Readem and weep ( Here are your swap creatures)

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/politico-exposes-secretive-consulting-firm-set-dominate-biden-cabinet
    A shadowy consulting firm which openly brags about its ability to connect clients to the White House is set to prominently feature in the Biden administration, according to Politico.

    Our Team

    #66075

    WES
    Participant

    Zerosum:

    The difference between Trump (you hear about corruption but nobody charged because Trump never had control of DoJ) and Biden (you won’t hear about corruption and nobody charged because he has control of DoJ).

    #66077

    teri
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    I just have problems with the whole election fraud thing as presented by Trump, Giuliani and Powell.
    Trump claimed the 2016 election was rigged, and he WON that one, so his take is just his usual fall-back position. The lawyers might have something, except….

    Sidney Powell is part of QAnon. Sorry, but that is a nonstarter for me. But there is also this stuff:

    Her main complaint is about Dominion Systems voting software. For some reason, the “for real this time” evidence has been cleverly hidden until now, and not used in any of the 30 or so lawsuits that Trump filed previous to this time. Why?

    She alleges that this software was developed by the late Hugo Chavez to make sure he never lost an election. The fact that he was wildly popular in Venezuela is apparently irrelevant to his winning his elections, because “Socialism”, or as it is now called, “Communism”. (Chavez had an approval rating of close to 80% for his entire tenure in office. Not that the Venezuelans should have a right to pick, much less like, their own president.)

    The countries that manipulated the US vote from abroad by hacking into the Dominion Systems now include (list comes from various Powell statements, tweets, filings and interviews): Venezuela, China, Iran, Cuba, Canada, the Netherlands, and Serbia. These are all now to be referred to as Communist, rogue countries.

    Also mentioned as being involved in vote fraud are the entities HSBC Bank Canada, BMA Capital Mgt, and DVS Corp China. They are presumed to be rogue Communists, as well. Not in the court filings, but included in Powell’s interviews, are the names Soros, Clinton, Pelosi, and the groups Antifa and the Clinton Foundation. That is a hell of a lot of countries, entities, and individuals involved in this scam. Plus, all the county clerks in various states who had to have participated in one or another for it all to have worked.

    Her court filings are full of typos, misspells the names of the courts where the lawsuits are filed, and she misspells her key expert’s name twice (in two different ways). I personally would demand my retainer back from an attorney who couldn’t spell the words “district” and “court” correctly, but maybe that’s just me.

    One of the GOP county chairmans who is listed as a plaintiff says he never agreed to take part in the legal action. There are 7 plaintiffs listed in Powell’s filings, well, less the one guy, so 6 plaintiffs, although she now claims to be representing the “American People” as a whole, so maybe 330 million plaintiffs.

    Dominion Systems is “responsible”, she says, for manipulating the votes in the five states that Trump is filing lawsuits. Those states would be Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia. Powell has filed her suits in two of these states – Georgia and Michigan. Dominion Systems, however, was used in 24 states in the 2020 election. I guess that Dominion was not a problem when it was used in the states that Trump won, because they aren’t contesting those states. Nor are they suggesting there were any glitches at all one way or another in the other 18 states that used Dominion. In the states that used Dominion, both the Democrats and the Republicans in the state legislatures approved the election laws and the purchase of the Dominion machines. Which no doubt proves that both parties were probably in the bag for Biden all along and they are all rogue Commies.

    She has set up a “Defending the Republic” fund, and Trump has set up an “Official Election Defense Fund”. Please give generously…you do have some of that stimulus money left, doncha? And – hand to God – these funds will only be used for the stated purposes [see fine print] and are not part of a money-grubbing grifting scheme which will be milked until hell freezes over.

    #66078

    Boogaloo
    Participant

    teri, the problems with the voting machines has been known since well before this election. Check out this 2018 criticism of the voting machine from University of Michigan computer science professor Alex Haldermann

    And this 2016 criticism from Princeton Professor Andrew Appel:

    https://engineering.princeton.edu/news/2016/09/29/computer-science-professor-urges-congress-secure-voting

    https://rumble.com/vb5ve9-princeton-professor-hacks-voting-machine-in-seven-minutes.html

    #66079

    Boogaloo
    Participant

    teri, one more, lest you think there is anything partisan about this. Here is a May 2016 critique explaining the insecurity of the US voting system — six months before the last election and the allegations of Russian hacking:

    #66081

    VietnamVet
    Participant

    The real problem is what is the truth, even here, except for personal antidotes. All news is transferred through filters. For example, news from RT is described as Russian propaganda. Likewise, as is US corporate media. When the Plutocrats seized power, they blamed the resulting American Rust Belt on environmentalists, hippies, liberals, anyone except the real culprits, Ivy League MBAs on Wall Street. The victims are the Trumpeters. With a failed government, the only recourse is a return to the old myths and faith. A Death Cult now controls the US Supreme Court.

    On the other hand, there are the five percent Technocrats who the Democrats represent who are the overseers for the oligarchs. To take the money and avoid self-recriminations for corruption, arrogance, and incompetence; they grasped on to the belief that only money counts in life. “Greed is Good”.

    The outcome is the USA is totally polarized between two fake myths. American Science and Engineering are debased to make more money. Airplanes crash, Paradise CA burns, quarter million Americans die of COVID-19. At its core, there are two 21st century Americas, one were you realize you are on your own and start prepping or you continue the slog, pushing the rocks up the hill, ignoring the risks, believing that there is a higher power and a just reward.

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    John Day
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    Good Work Noirette and Vietnam Vet.
    Keep the faith!
    Tell the Truth!
    Bedtime for John-O.

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