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Vincent van Gogh Green Wheat Field With Cypress 1889

 

Viral Sequence Suggests Coronavirus Jumped Between Hotel Rooms (G.)
The Blood-Clot Problem Is Multiplying (Atl.)
UK Church Leaders Warn Against ‘Dangerous’ Vaccine Passport Plans (G.)
Denying the Demonic (Edward Curtin)
Ukrainian Envoy: NATO or Nuclear Weapons (Antiwar)
US Laments ‘Unwanted Escalation’ & Warns It Reserves Right To Retaliate (RT)
Czech Govt Expels 18 Russian Diplomats Over 2014 Blast (Y!)
Macron Urges ‘Clear Red Lines’ With Russia Amid Buildup Near Ukraine (Y!)
Russia, Ukraine Expel Diplomats As Tensions Soar (Y!)
CNN Viewership Down By Half Since Biden Took Office (ZH)
Biden Describes Border Surge As ‘Crisis’ For First Time (JTN)

 

 

 

 

 

 

• Florida: No lockdowns or masks
• Texas: Ended lockdowns, restrictions and mask mandates on 10th March 2021
• California: Full lockdown and mask mandate

 

 

What type of ventilation do they have?

Viral Sequence Suggests Coronavirus Jumped Between Hotel Rooms (G.)

Covid-19 appears to have jumped between neighbouring rooms in hotel quarantine in Sydney after seven cases of people arriving from different countries were revealed to have the same viral sequence. NSW Health said today that it had been notified on Friday that the returned travellers had the same viral sequence. The cases may have to be reclassified as locally acquired. The seven cases came from two family groups who arrived from different countries on different days. They stayed in adjacent rooms on the 12th floor of the Adina Apartments Hotel at Sydney’s Town Hall.


Staff who worked on the floor when the original case was believed to have been infectious – between 8 and 11 April – are self-isolating. NSW Health said all security staff who worked on the 12th floor at the time had had at least one vaccination. Other people in quarantine on the 12th floor at the time have all been retested and returned negative results.

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It’s certainly growing. Interesting: the producers have all received immunity. But how about the governments that push these things onto their people?

The Blood-Clot Problem Is Multiplying (Atl.)

For weeks, Americans looked on as other countries grappled with case reports of rare, sometimes fatal blood abnormalities among those who had received the AstraZeneca vaccine against COVID-19. That vaccine has not yet been authorized by the FDA, so restrictions on its use throughout Europe did not get that much attention in the United States. But Americans experienced a rude awakening this week when public-health officials called for a pause on the use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, after a few cases of the same, unusual blood-clotting syndrome turned up among the millions of people in the country who have received it.

The world is now engaged in a vaccination program unlike anything we have seen in our lifetimes, and with it, unprecedented scrutiny of ultra-rare but dangerous side effects. An estimated 852 million COVID-19 vaccine doses have been administered across 154 countries, according to data collected by Bloomberg. Last week, the European Medicines Agency, which regulates medicines in the European Union, concluded that the unusual clotting events were indeed a side effect of the AstraZeneca vaccine; by that point, more than 220 cases of dangerous blood abnormalities had been identified. Only half a dozen cases have been documented so far among Americans vaccinated with the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, and a causal link has not yet been established. But the latest news suggests that the scope of this problem might be changing.

Whether the blood issues are ultimately linked to only one vaccine, or two vaccines, or more, it’s absolutely crucial to remember the unrelenting death toll from the coronavirus itself—and the fact that COVID-19 can set off its own chaos in the circulatory system, with blood clots showing up in “almost every organ.” That effect of the disease is just one of many reasons the European Medicines Agency has emphasized that the “overall benefits of the [AstraZeneca] vaccine in preventing COVID-19 outweigh the risks of side effects.” The same is true of Johnson & Johnson’s. These vaccines are saving countless lives across multiple continents.

But it’s also crucial to determine the biological cause of any vaccine-related blood conditions. This global immunization project presents a lot of firsts: the first authorized use of mRNA vaccines like the ones from Pfizer and Moderna; the first worldwide use of adenovirus vectors for vaccines like AstraZeneca’s, Johnson & Johnson’s, and Sputnik V; and the first attempt to immunize against a coronavirus. Which, if any, of these new frontiers might be linked to serious side effects? Which, if any, of the other vaccines could be drawn into this story, too? How can a tiny but disturbing risk be mitigated as we fight our way out of this pandemic? And what might be the implications for vaccine design in the years to come?

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Amen:

“For the church of Jesus Christ to shut out those deemed by the state to be social undesirables would be anathema to us and a denial of the truth of the gospel.”

UK Church Leaders Warn Against ‘Dangerous’ Vaccine Passport Plans (G.)

Hundreds of UK church leaders have told the prime minister that plans to use vaccine passports for entry into venues is “one of the most dangerous policy proposals ever to be made in the history of British politics” with the “potential to bring about the end of liberal democracy as we know it”. An open letter to Boris Johnson signed by more than 1,250 clergy from different Christian denominations across the UK says the “introduction of vaccine passports would constitute an unethical form of coercion and violation of the principle of informed consent”. It says people may have valid reasons for being unable or unwilling to be vaccinated against Covid, “including, for some Christians, serious issues of conscience related to the ethics of vaccine manufacture or testing”.

Covid status certificates would be “divisive, discriminatory, and destructive”, it adds. “We risk creating a two-tier society, a medical apartheid in which an underclass of people who decline vaccination are excluded from significant areas of public life. There is also a legitimate fear that this scheme would be the thin end of the wedge. “This scheme has the potential to bring about the end of liberal democracy as we know it and to create a surveillance state in which the government uses technology to control certain aspects of citizens’ lives. As such, this constitutes one of the most dangerous policy proposals ever to be made in the history of British politics.” The letter says there is no logical sense in terms of protecting others in introducing Covid status certificates as a requirement for entry for venues, which could include churches.

“If the vaccines are highly effective in preventing significant disease, as seems to be the evidence from trial results to date, then those who have been vaccinated have already received protection; there is no benefit to them of other people being vaccinated,” it says. Describing the proposal as “illiberal and dangerous”, the signatories say: “As Christian leaders we … envisage no circumstances in which we could close our doors to those who do not have a vaccine passport, negative test certificate, or any other ‘proof of health’. For the church of Jesus Christ to shut out those deemed by the state to be social undesirables would be anathema to us and a denial of the truth of the gospel.”

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“The FDA issued Emergency Use Authorizations (EUAs) for these inoculations only under the proviso that they may make an infection less severe. Yet millions have obediently taken a shot that doesn’t do what they think it does.”

Denying the Demonic (Edward Curtin)

In March of last year as the coronavirus panic was starting, I wrote a somewhat flippant article saying that the obsession with buying and hoarding toilet paper was the people’s vaccine. My point was simple: excrement and death have long been associated in cultural history and in the Western imagination with the evil devil, Satan, the Lord of the underworld, the Trickster, the Grand Master who rules the pit of smelly death, the place below where bodies go. The psychoanalytic literature is full of examples of death anxiety revealed in anal dreams of shit-filled overflowing toilets and people pissing in their pants. Ernest Becker put it simply in The Denial of Death: “No mistake – the turd is mankind’s real threat because it reminds people of death.”

The theological literature is also full of warnings about the devil’s wiles. So too the Western classics from Aeschylus to Melville. The demonic has an ancient pedigree and has various names. Rational people tend to dismiss all this as superstitious nonsense. This is hubris. The Furies always exact their revenge when their existence is denied. For they are part of ourselves, not alien beings, as the tragedy of human history has shown us time and again. Since excremental visions and the fear of death haunt humans – the skull at the banquet as William James put it – the perfect symbol of protection is toilet paper that will keep you safe and clean and free of any reminder of the fear of death running through a panicked world. It’s a magic trick of course, an unconscious way of thinking you are protecting yourself; a form of self-hypnosis.

One year later, magical thinking has taken a different form and my earlier flippancy has turned darker. You can’t hoard today’s toilet paper but you can get them: RNA inoculations, misnamed vaccines. People are lined up for them now as they are being told incessantly to “get your shot.” They are worse than toilet paper. At least toilet paper serves a practical function. Real vaccines, as the word’s etymology – Latin, vaccinus, from cows, the cowpox virus vaccine first used by British physician Edward Jenner in 1800 to prevent smallpox – involve the use of a small amount of a virus. The RNA inoculations are not vaccines. To say they are is bullshit and has nothing to do with cows. To call them vaccines is linguistic mind control.

These experimental inoculations do not prevent the vaccinated from getting infected with the “virus” nor do they prevent transmission of the alleged virus. When they were approved recently by the FDA that was made clear. The FDA issued Emergency Use Authorizations (EUAs) for these inoculations only under the proviso that they may make an infection less severe. Yet millions have obediently taken a shot that doesn’t do what they think it does. What does that tell us? Hundreds of millions of people have taken an injection that allows a bio-reactive “gene-therapy” molecule to be injected into their bodies because of fear, ignorance, and a refusal to consider that the people who are promoting this are evil and have ulterior motives. Not that they mean well, but that they are evil and have evil intentions. Does this sound too extreme? Radically evil? Come on!

So what drives the refusal to consider that demonic forces are at work with the corona crisis? Why do the same people who get vaccinated believe that a PCR test that can’t, according to its inventor Kary Mullis, test for this so-called virus, believe in the fake numbers of positive “cases”? Do these people even know if the virus has ever been isolated? Such credulity is an act of faith, not science or confirmed fact. Is it just the fear of death that drives such thinking? Or is it something deeper than ignorance and propaganda that drives this incredulous belief?

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The Ukraine government really is this crazy.

Ukrainian Envoy: NATO or Nuclear Weapons (Antiwar)

Today Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky seconded a statement by Georgian President Salome Zourabichvili that “it is time for concrete proposals for Ukraine and Georgia to obtain a NATO MAP and a plan to join the EU.” The two countries have been paired as partners for future NATO membership, with both being promised membership in the global military bloc at the NATO summit in Bucharest, Romania in 2008. Ukraine’s ambassador to Germany, Andriy Melnyk, seconded Zelensky’s demand that NATO admit Ukraine as a full member, stating that only that move would prevent a Russian invasion: “The only possibility for this [to prevent alleged invasion plans] is for Ukraine to finally become a NATO member.”

He also claimed that had his country been in NATO in 2014 the secession of Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea would not have occurred; neither would the now seven-year was in the Donbass. He neglected to state whether the U.S.-engineered uprising and overthrow of an internationally-recognized government would also have occurred. Most likely not, as the populations of NATO nations are not allowed to elect, or if elect, keep any government Washington and Brussels view with disapprobation. The envoy then made this provocative statement: “Ukraine has no other choice: either we are part of an alliance such as NATO and are doing our part to make this Europe stronger, or we have the only option – to arm by ourselves, and maybe think about nuclear status again. How else can we guarantee our defense?”

He also claimed there were 90,000 Russian military personnel deployed to the Donbass border and to Crimea; in his words, “We are dealing with the largest troop movement in Russia since the Second World War.” Which is arrant nonsense. When the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991 a third of total Soviet nuclear weapons were in Ukraine; with 1,700 warheads in the country it had the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world after the U.S. and Russia. In 1994 Ukraine joined the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as a non-nuclear-weapon nation. It’s that decision the above-cited ambassador suggested be reversed. In fairness, this isn’t the first time the question of Ukraine developing its own nuclear weapons capacity has been broached.

Over the past twenty years NATO-trained military leaders have raised the issue. But never before, and never during a crisis remotely comparable to the present one, has the issue been phrased so brutally: either place Ukraine under NATO Article 5 mutual military assistance status – and NATO acknowledges itself a nuclear alliance – or Ukraine will reassert itself as a nuclear power. The shelling of the Donbass will be mild in comparison to what an armed conflict between a nuclear Ukraine and nuclear Russia would portend.

Russia does the exact same thing the US does and it’s labeled escalation.

US Laments ‘Unwanted Escalation’ & Warns It Reserves Right To Retaliate (RT)

As Russia blacklisted eight current and former American officials and sent ten diplomats packing in retaliation for US sanctions, the State Department has lamented the “escalatory” response and said that Washington might respond. “Our recent actions were proportionate and appropriate to Russia’s harmful activities. Today’s announcement by the Russian government was escalatory and regrettable,” a State Department spokesman said in a statement on Friday evening. “It is not in our interest to get into an escalatory cycle, but we reserve the right to respond to any Russian retaliation against the United States.” Foggy Bottom was responding to the announcement that Moscow will expel 10 US diplomats, restricting the number of short-term visas for State Department staff to 10 per year, and ban the US embassy from hiring citizens of Russia and third countries as administrative staff.

The “open ground” memorandum of 1992, allowing US diplomats to move freely around Russia, has also been “declared invalid due to systematic violations” by Americans, the Russian Foreign Ministry said. There are also plans to “halt the activities… of American foundations and NGOs controlled by the Department of State and other US government agencies” since the US “shows no intention of scaling back its systematic subversive efforts.” These measures were a response to President Joe Biden’s executive orders sanctioning 30 Russian individuals and entities for allegedly interfering in the 2020 US presidential election and alleged involvement in the SolarWinds hack – both of which Russia has vehemently denied. Biden also expelled 10 Russian diplomats and banned US companies from trading in Russian sovereign debt.

Russia also chose to respond to Biden’s March 2 decision to sanction several Russian officials accused – with no evidence provided – of involvement in the alleged “poisoning” of opposition blogger Alexey Navalny. On Friday, Moscow banned eight current and former US officials from entering Russia. The ban applies to FBI Director Christopher Wray, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, Attorney General Merrick Garland, Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines, Director of Federal Bureau of Prisons Michael Carvajal, and President Joe Biden’s domestic policy adviser Susan Rice. Former national security adviser John Bolton made the Russian blacklist as well. As did James Woolsey, who ran the CIA between 1993 and 1995 – and recently authored a book ‘Operation Dragon: Inside the Kremlin’s Secret War on America’, which accused the Soviet Union of assassinating US President John Fitzgerald Kennedy in 1963.

The unusual step to publicize the response was taken “in view of the unprecedented complications in Russia-US relations provoked by Washington,” the Foreign Ministry said. US sanctions and messages from Washington “show that Washington is not willing to listen and does not appreciate the restraint that we have displayed despite the tensions that have been purposefully fueled” by Washington since the Obama administration, said the Foreign Ministry. [..] Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told reporters on Friday that Russia could have inflicted “painful measures” on US businesses, but chose not to do so – at this time.

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Some things are just too insane:

“Czech police said on Saturday they were looking for two men with Russian passports that had also been used by the suspects in the 2018 poisoning attempt on Sergei Skripal in Britain..”

Mark Ames: “If I understand this right, apparently GRU thought it’d be smart to use the same 2 spies to carry out 2 separate deadly operations in NATOland—2014 bombing in Czech Rep, 2018 Skripal poisoning—using exact same aliases & fake passports in both operations.”

Czech Govt Expels 18 Russian Diplomats Over 2014 Blast (Y!)

The Czech government said Saturday it would expel 18 Russian diplomats identified by local intelligence as secret agents of the Russian SVR and GRU services that are suspected of involvement in a 2014 explosion. Czech police also said later they were seeking two Russians in connection with the blast, which killed two people, with passports used by the suspects in the attempted poisoning of former Russian double agent Sergei Skripal in 2018. “Eighteen employees of the Russian embassy must leave our republic within 48 hours,” Foreign Minister Jan Hamacek told reporters. Prime Minister Andrej Babis said Czech authorities had “clear evidence” linking GRU officers from unit 29155 to the blast in a military ammunition warehouse near the eastern Czech village of Vrbetice.

He added that he had received the information on Friday, without explaining why the investigation had taken so long. “The explosion led to huge material damage and posed a serious threat to the lives of many local people, but above all it killed two citizens,” Babis said. The blast occurred on October 16, 2014 at a warehouse with 58 tonnes of ammunition. It was followed months later by another big blast at a nearby warehouse with 98 tonnes of ammunition. The Czech organised crime squad (NCOZ) said it was looking for two men using Russian passports in relation to the explosions. The passports bear the names of Alexander Petrov, born in 1979, and Ruslan Boshirov, born in 1978, and their holders are also wanted in Britain in connection with Skripal’s poisoning in Salisbury.

Russia denied involvement in the poisoning but some 300 diplomats were sent home in subsequent tit-for-tat expulsions. “The two men were present on Czech territory in… October 2014” when the Vrbetice blast occurred, the NCOZ said, adding that the two men also used Tajik and Moldovan identities. Babis said the expulsion of 18 diplomats had the full support of President Milos Zeman, a veteran leftwinger who has fostered close ties with both Moscow and Beijing. Zeman has repeatedly spoken out against his country’s Security Information Service (BIS), which has accused Russian intelligence services of orchestrating recent cyberattacks on the Czech foreign ministry and other targets.

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You said what? Ha ha ha!

“I do prefer constructive dialogue, but to have a constructive and efficient dialogue, you need credibility.”

Macron Urges ‘Clear Red Lines’ With Russia Amid Buildup Near Ukraine (Y!)

French President Emmanuel Macron said the international community has to “define clear red lines with Russia,” in an interview extract released Saturday, adding that countries must be ready to impose sanctions in case of “unacceptable behavior.” His remarks, made during an interview with the US network CBS, came amid high tensions over a major military buildup by Russian forces along the border with Ukraine. Macron said the world needed to make it clear to Moscow that while it preferred “open and frank dialogue,” it will not shy from imposing sanctions after any “unacceptable behavior.” “Indeed, we have to sanction. This is what we did after (Russia annexed Crimea in 2014) or after a series of crises which happen. And I think we have to define clear red lines with Russia. This is the only way to be credible.”


He added: “I think that sanctions are not sufficient in itself, in themselves, but sanctions are part of the package. I do prefer constructive dialogue, but to have a constructive and efficient dialogue, you need credibility.” Russia is believed to have deployed tens of thousands of soldiers near its border with Ukraine and in Crimea. Clashes along the border, which had nearly ceased after a cease-fire reached last summer, have recently resumed. On Thursday, US President Joe Biden announced financial sanctions against Moscow and the expulsion of 10 Russian diplomats over a massive series of cyber attacks against US targets, as well as over Russian interference in American elections. In addition, eight people linked to the “occupation” of Crimea were sanctioned.

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Ukraine tries to resemble an actual country.

Russia, Ukraine Expel Diplomats As Tensions Soar (Y!)

Russia on Saturday said it would expel a Ukrainian diplomat, prompting an immediate pledge of retaliation from Kiev, further escalating tensions over Moscow’s troop build-up on Ukraine’s eastern flank. The detention of a Ukrainian consul in the second city Saint Petersburg comes at a time of global concern of a repeat of Moscow’s 2014 aggression, when Russia annexed the peninsula of Crimea and backed separatists in Ukraine’s east. Moscow claimed the Ukrainian diplomat had been caught “red-handed” trying to obtain sensitive information. In response, the Ukrainian foreign ministry protested “the illegal” detention of its diplomat and said Kiev would expel a senior Russian diplomat. Kiev has been battling Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine since 2014 and clashes intensified early this year, effectively shredding a ceasefire agreed last July.


Around 30 Ukrainian troops have been killed since the start of the year, compared to 50 last year. Most of them were victims of sniper fire. Russia has detained a number of Ukrainian nationals on suspicion of spying in recent years but the arrest of a diplomat is rare. “A Ukrainian diplomat, a consul of Ukraine’s Consulate General in Saint Petersburg, Alexander Sosonyuk, has been detained by Russia’s FSB,” the security service said in a statement, using the Russian language spelling of his name. He was held on Friday, the security service said. Kiev said the diplomat had spent several hours in detention. The Russian foreign ministry said Saturday it had summoned Ukraine’s charge d’affaires Vasyl Pokotylo and told him that the Ukrainian diplomat had 72 hours to leave the country “beginning April 19”.

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Clown News Network.

CNN Viewership Down By Half Since Biden Took Office (ZH)

While CNN may no longer be torturing people in airports, voluntary viewership has fallen over 50% in multiple categories since President Biden took office, according to Fox News. Who knew that their best move during the 2020 election would have been to help Trump win, instead of helping Biden. In the first three weeks of 2021, the network averaged 2.2 million viewers – only to plummet to just one million viewers – a decline of 54%. Among the key advertising demographic of adults age 25-54, ratings are down 60%. From December 28 through Inauguration day, viewership went from 617,000 viewers in that demographic to just 244,000 since Biden took office.

“CNN’s liberal primetime hosts Anderson Cooper, Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon haven’t been able to keep their audiences under the new administration, either. CNN averaged 3.1 million viewers from 8-11 p.m. from Dec. 28 through Inauguration Day but only 1.4 million since for a whopping 55-percent decline. Over the same time period, CNN’s primetime lineup lost 63 percent of its viewers among the crucial demo.” -Fox News. CNN also fared worse than liberal competitor MSNBC, which lost ‘only’ 34% of its total-day viewers, and 30% of primetime viewers under Biden. Fox News points out, of course, that their viewership has remained mostly flat – as declines remained in the single digits.


When asked if he was worried about the ratings disaster, CNN host Don Lemon told the New York Times’ podcaster “Sway”: “No. I’m not worried about it … Trump was a horrible person. And he was terrible for the country. And it is better for all — for the world that he is no longer the President of the United States,” adding “So if that means that cable news ratings go down? Aww. So I’m not really that concerned about it. I would prefer that my ratings go down and Trump not be in office than my ratings be sky-high and him be there. That’s the honest truth.”

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“..liberal Democrats complained.”

Biden Describes Border Surge As ‘Crisis’ For First Time (JTN)

President Biden on Saturday called the historic border surge a “crisis” for the first time, even as he pushed ahead with plans to increase the caps for refugees admitted into the United States. ”We’re going to increase the number [of refugees],” he said at a news conference. “The problem was that the refugee part was working on the crisis that ended up on the border with young people. We couldn’t do two things at once. But now we are going to increase the number.” His comments came one day after the Biden administration had to do a flip-flop, first announcing it was freezing refugee caps at the same 15,000 level that President Trump had created and then retreating a few hours later when liberal Democrats complained.


Biden had said in February he planned to raise the cap to 125,000, next year while his administration had suggested the number might increase to 62,000 for this year. The original announcement Friday was met with outrage by far-left Democrats, who then applauded the reversal. “This is a testament to the power that people’s movements, community advocates, & progressive coalitions have built,” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeted.

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    Vincent van Gogh Green Wheat Field With Cypress 1889   • Viral Sequence Suggests Coronavirus Jumped Between Hotel Rooms (G.) • The Blood-Clot Pro
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 18 2021]

    #73376
    Germ
    Participant

    93 Israeli doctors: Do not use Covid-19 vaccine on children

    “We believe that not even a handful of children should be endangered through mass vaccination against a disease not dangerous to them.”

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/304124

    #73377
    Germ
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    #73378
    Germ
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    #73379
    Germ
    Participant

    Simple , and plausible, explanation why there are blood clots.
    Explanation is within the first 6 mins.

    Just sayin!

    #73380
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Vincent van Gogh Green Wheat Field With Cypress 1889

    Wow, a van Gogh?
    The clouds, both left and right frames…interesting, no?
    The depth of field is remarkable, and so lovely…
    A welcome addition to my gallery…

    #73381

    Simple , and plausible, explanation why there are blood clots.
    Explanation is within the first 6 mins.

    Cute, but addresses adenovirus only, and hence doesn’t explain blood clots with mRNA. Or Covid.

    #73383
    Basseterre Kitona
    Participant

    The Bill Maher bit is worth watching, all 7 minutes. Hopefully it is a sign that some sanity is getting through to the left side of the political spectrum.

    What type of ventilation do they have?

    • Viral Sequence Suggests Coronavirus Jumped Between Hotel Rooms (G.)

    The HVAC system could definitely play a role. And rooms on the same floor tend to share hallways too. Maybe this is a good moment to recall one of the worst case scenarios…that conveniently played out early during the pandemic: the saga of the Diamond Princess cruise ship.

    On the Diamond Princess, 3,711 passengers and crew trapped on the boat for weeks during winter (Jan 20 – March 1, 2020) early during the crisis when doctors were unsure how to treat sars-cov-2. And it was an older crowd with most passengers in their 70s. A complete disaster scenario, right ?

    So the final tally, 712 infections (presumably positive tests) and 14 deaths. Even amongst those who were infected, survival was 98%. Much closer to the flu than the Black Death of the middle ages inspire of the barrage of fear inducing hype.

    Of those who were infected & hospitalized, 27% suffered severe complications. 41% had mild cases and 32 % were completely asymptomatic.

    But looking back, the most important data from the nightmare scenario of the Diamond Princess is that 80% of the passengers & crew did not become infected. Quite possibly they were exposed to the corona virus for prolonged periods while on the cruise ship…yet apparently their immune systems were healthy enough to fight off infection. Maybe this was the T-cell and B-cell response that can repel attacks without the need to even create anti-bodies? I don’t know…but it is worth considering.

    If 80% of people can be exposed to the virus without getting any infection…or certainly not enough to trigger a positive signal on a test, then that is a very important fact to keep in mind. And it makes the present infatuation with vaccines and vaccine passports that some people (especially globalist minded authority figures) even more insane.

    #73384
    Germ
    Participant

    Excellent interview with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, Professor of medicine at Stanford University:

    Ep. 1878 Jay Bhattacharya on Variants, Vaccine Passports, and the Future

    #73385
    Basseterre Kitona
    Participant

    One more calculation from the Diamond Princess, of the 3,711 people on board 14 died which means that the chase of survival for all of those people stuck in the nightmare scenario of that boat for weeks was 99.6%.

    The death rate of the Diamond Princess was 0.38%. Last I heard, the Infection Fatality Rate was about 0.26%. Given the poor conditions on the boat and the 70+ crowd, that sounds about right.

    It would be interesting to know what the death rate was in nursing homes because outside of the cruise ships they are probably the worst situation. Do the residents of nursing homes also have a better than 99% chance of survival?

    If so, then we need to end the farce of any healthy adult being the least bit concerned about the virus. And the likes of Bill Maher are correct to start mocking this stupidity for what it really is.

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    Dr. D
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    Vincent van Gogh , thank God a world without lawnmowers. And the lack of wasting gasoline running them.

    This is technically permaculture, as the hedgerows and other areas are permanently occupied by perennials creating habitat, enriching the soil, and providing shelter to diversity.

    CNN has lower ratings than the local news in any large American city. Let that sink in before you quote them again. It only adds to the illusion of their relevancy.

    Yes, the curious thing about CV is that husband and wife – seeming same age, same health – one dies, one doesn’t even get it. That’s been true all over and proven solid on the Diamond Princess. But it’s scientific, untampered, double-blind evidence so one one cares. Science is a religion, where you shut your brain off, not a method of determining truth using action and reason.

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    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    The Edward Curtin article is a very effective example of why the national Covid discussion has gone so badly off the rails: Over-the-top rhetoric and pet conspiracy-theories will inevitably generate a highly unfavorable signal-to-noise ratio. Right now, I’m reading a book by a Swedish doctor titled Covid: Why Most Of What You Know Is Wrong, which makes its case with facts, studies, and statistics. In a country that has gone as utterly fruit-bat crackers as the USA has in the past six or so years, expecting any such adherence to facts and logic over kookery and quackery purporting bear “THE TRVTH” is clearly expecting way too much.

    #73394
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    A fascinating and thought-provoking aside from the “Meme Policeman” website:

    An interesting side note is that early on in the pandemic, many on the fringe right/libertarian side were very pro mask, and the establishment left was the one railing against them for public use. This completely flipped within a month, and demonstrated the tribal nature that dominated 2020.

    #73395
    Doc Robinson
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    Blood clotting is linked to the Covid spike proteins, according to a recent medical study quoted today by Karl Denninger at The Market Ticker. This helps explain how the Covid vaccines could cause blood clots.

    Here we study the effect of isolated SARS-CoV-2 spike protein S1 subunit as potential pro-inflammatory inflammagen sui generis. We investigate the potential of this inflammagen to directly interact with platelets and fibrin(ogen) to cause fibrin(ogen) protein changes and blood hypercoagulation. We also determine if the spike protein may interfere with blood flow, by comparing naïve healthy PPP samples, with and without added spike protein, to PPP samples from COVID-19 positive patients (before treatment). We conclude that the spike protein may have pathological effects directly, without being taken up by cells.

    SARS-CoV-2 spike protein S1 induces fibrin(ogen) resistant to fibrinolysis: Implications for microclot formation in COVID-19
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.05.21252960v1.full

    #73396
    Topcat
    Participant

    By the looks of the Florida, Texas, Californicate
    Covid death graph at the top,

    DeSantis has hit a Grand Slam Home Run.

    Newsom is the Turd in the Punch Bowl

    #73397
    zerosum
    Participant

    Here is what I like to read (saves me work)
    http://www.theautomaticearth.com/2021/04/18-reasons-i-wont-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine/
    http://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine
    Note: If you go to the trouble of digging out info – do more than cut & paste – give the https, link
    Covid: Why Most Of What You Know Is Wrong, which makes its case with facts, studies, and statistics.

    sebastianrushworth.com/2021/03/11/covid-why-most-of-what-you-know-is-wrong/
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    Explain why the charts of deaths are similar
    • Florida: No lockdowns or masks
    • Texas: Ended lockdowns, restrictions and mask mandates on 10th March 2021
    • California: Full lockdown and mask mandate
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    Lockdown of those people with covid, works to keep the spread in/to a confined area
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468042720300063?via%3Dihub

    Transmission potential of the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) onboard the diamond Princess Cruises Ship, 2020

    Accumulating evidence indicates that the novel coronavirus can spread widely in confined settings including hospitals (Gan, Thomas, & Culver, 2020), cruise ships (National Instatitute of Infectious Disease, 2020), prisons, and churches (Coronavirus Found In, 2020; The Guardian. Nemo Kim in, 2020). In Wuhan City, China, outbreaks inside health care settings led to the infection of hundreds of health professionals (Gan et al., 2020). In Tokyo, Japan, most of the reported infections have been linked to a party inside a traditional wooden ship, called Yakatabune (NHK News Web, 2020) while most of the infections in Korea have affected members of one church and one hospital.
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    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e3.htm
    Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR)
    Public Health Responses to COVID-19 Outbreaks on Cruise Ships — Worldwide, February–March 2020
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    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/Novel_Coronavirus_Reports.html
    MMWR is launching the MMWR COVID-19 Weekly Briefing podcast, a brief weekly podcast series to highlight the latest scientific information from the COVID-19 response. Listen to the latest episodes.
    April 16, 2021
    MORE—->
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    #73404
    Noirette
    Participant

    madamski, April 17, 2021: While I think the attempt to disrupt NordStream is serious, I believe the rest is just distracting nonsense, albeit with the strategic benefit of finding just how far Putin can be pushed these days.

    They know now. They can back off and pretend to have made a point while the dismantling of the covid machinery continues. This also is a losing proposition they’re trying to back off of without appearing totally incapable. This is proving difficult, but they have Joe to throw to the wolves (…)

    But they’ve stacked the timber atop the kindling atop the tinder. It only wants a match, and there are rogues who might light that bonfire just to see it burn. (…)

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    Zelensky is in a desperate position. Economic, political. His approval rating has plummeted from close to 80% or so – I guess hope springs eternal – to 30% – which merely shows some have sympathy for the poor fellow, sanitary (Covid has hit very hard) + other.

    The frozen conflict (DNPR – Kiev) was slowly thawed and revived after Biden took office. Ze was elected as a centrist, un rassembleur as the French would say, and a Peace prez., but he has been unable to effect any changes whatsoever.

    The neo-libs-cum-Western-groupies are allied tight with the Banderistas against Russia, they are very powerful, holding the cards both of foreign approval, support, funding, and that of violence on the streets. The oligarchs, generally favouring no disturbance, conflict, seem to play less and less of a role. Hmm ? Not sure.

    So Ze was in a place where he has to do something. (In the few still photos of him in recent days I saw he appears absolutely terrified.) So he followed malgré lui the laid-down scenario, *Russia Russia Russia* and we beg you, keep up your support.

    With NS2 18% or so of the Ukr. state budget will be lost, and no doubt then more to follow…as impoverishment is a spiral down. So both the Biden admin and Ukr. anti-Russia strands and most likely many Ukrainians would like to scotch NS2. It is very late in the day (it is almost completed), a bit like closing the proverbial barn doors. (It can of course be cancelled or sabotaged later.)

    Russia’s troop massing, increased presence in the Black Sea, are a deterrent that will most likely succeed. The message is: don’t mess with this. And so the W powers will back down, and Ze will be left with the internal problems, which will no doubt blow up again, but not for some months.

    Meanwhile the old litany, Ukr. must join NATO, etc. etc. Help us! is clarioned, which the West will not do, they care not a fig for Ukr. or Ukranians, e.g. the EU, after Yanukovitch refused the prelim. Ukr.-EU agreement and turned to Russia, or a-hem, tried to, they pivoted against him. Ukr.’s only useful function is to Poke the Bear under the orders of the US.

    Words like those of Macron (see above) are empty, though he ran on a “better relations with Russia” ticket to be elected, he was low-key and muted as compared to his real rival, Francois Fillon (Catholic.)

    Putin would have met with Biden if it wasn’t for the extra sanctions.

    As it is, the Russians are totally fed up. Some top brass, as well as the base, are increasingly against Putin’s lack of riposte, or show of firm determination and strong aggro moves, they have HAD it. One major step towards the “Game Over – Now a New Game Begins.”

    #73406
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ Germ

    Thank you for comment #73378 regarding real life impacts of Experimental COVID injections that everyone should be aware of. I have forwarded the link you provided to my family and friends

    #73408
    democritus
    Participant

    For the church of Jesus Christ to shut out those deemed by the state to be social undesirables would be anathema to us

    They have already done this unfortunately, by shutting out everyone, even though there was no legal requirement to do so.

    #73411
    democritus
    Participant

    Here are some definitions of a vaccine.

    https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/vaccine

    The covid vaccines *are* vaccines.

    Calling this gene therapy is just hoping we’ll mix up RNA and DNA to be as confused as off-guardian, and hoping that we will completely overlook what sars-cov2 does with its RNA. Just because it is natural, it doesn’t mean it is better or even good.

    #73412
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    The semantics concerning the word “vaccine” haven’t swayed (in either direction) my opinion of the safety and risks of the mRNA injections.

    Arguing semantics can just be a distraction from the more substantive issues.

    #73422
    chettt
    Participant

    Could someone comment on the covid situation in Brazil. I thought that there was widespread use of Ivermectin but it seems that the situation is anything but improving. I can’t seem to find much data on the effectiveness of any treatment protocols.

    #73428
    madamski
    Participant

    Woww. Lotta pareidolia in that Van Gogh.

    #73436
    WES
    Participant

    Noirette:

    Thanks for the Ukraine update.

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