Apr 092021
 


Willem de Kooning Rosy-fingered Dawn at Louse Point 1963

 

 

The European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg on Thursday issued a controversial ruling in a case brought by Czech families concerning vaccination of children against a number of diseases such as diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, hepatitis B and measles.

The court said that “the compulsory vaccines administered by Czech health authorities were in line with the “best interests” of children. “The objective has to be that every child is protected against serious diseases, through vaccination or by virtue of herd immunity.” It ruled that the Czech health policy was not in violation of Article 8 on the right to respect for private life in accordance with the European Convention on Human Rights. Summit News:

European Court of Human Rights Rules That Mandatory Vaccinations Are Legal

Mandatory vaccinations “could be regarded as being ‘necessary in a democratic society’,” the court judgment read. Although not directly related to COVID, the ruling could have significant implications given current debates over vaccine passports and whether workers in some jobs should be forced to take the vaccine as a condition of employment. This judgment “reinforces the possibility of a compulsory vaccination under conditions of the current COVID-19 epidemic,” Nicolas Hervieu, a legal expert specializing in the ECHR, told AFP.

I liked that one of the Czech cases, from 2006, involved a girl expelled from school because she didn’t have a vaccination, and was therefore judged to be a risk to all other children, who had all been vaccinated. Since that makes zero sense, we must presume something else might have been going on.

Still, I don’t think that the judgment “reinforces the possibility of a compulsory vaccination under conditions of the current COVID-19 epidemic.” For one thing, no politician who likes their job wants to drag children from their homes to get injected.

But more importantly, the diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, hepatitis B and measles vaccines are actual vaccines, that have been properly tested and approved. While none of the currently used Covid “vaccines” have. Is anyone going to make untested and unapproved substances mandatory? If so, someone is going to get themselves a good lawyer.

Mandatory vaccination is a legal nightmare no matter what, but in this particular case, it would appear to be DOA. Still, there are other avenues. They can, through vaccine passports, attempt to exclude you from social activities, including shopping. These passports always say a negative test is good too, but only if your test is less than, say, a day old. And you mostly have to pay for it yourself.

And even if you do, and you test negative 100 times, you still lose out to someone who has been injected with untested and unapproved substances of which nobody has shown any evidence that they will protect you from infection, or from infecting others. Bizarro world meets Kafka. If you work in sectors like travel and hospitality, forget about having a choice.

The ECHR ruled that the Czech health policy was not in violation of Article 8 on the right to respect for private life in accordance with the European Convention on Human Rights. But how about Unesco’s Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights, to which all countries involved are also signatories?

 

I quoted Greek political scientist and lawyer Nelly Psarrou in The One Year Emergency on February 4:

1. Vaccination, like any medical action, requires citizen consent. Consent is not regarded as valid if it is not fully informed, nor “if it is the result of deceit, fraud or threat, or conflicts with the demands of decency” (Medical Code of Ethics, Greek law 3418/2005). Failing this, the consent is waived and the person/body who has exerted the pressure or extortion to vaccinate is subject to penal sanctions and/or civil damages in the event of harm.

2. Vaccination is not a prerequisite for the exercise of any other institutional requirement, such as education or otherwise recognized basic right such as the right to employment and free movement. Correspondingly, no private company has the legal authority to impose restrictions violating citizens’ constitutional rights. Discrimination and Stigmatization are forbidden (Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights, UNESCO). Moreover, imposition of a medical action in any manner constitutes torture and is illegal.

 

That Declaration literally says:

Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights


Article 3 – Human dignity and human rights

1. Human dignity, human rights and fundamental freedoms are to be fully respected.

2. The interests and welfare of the individual should have priority over the sole interest of science or society.

Article 4 – Benefit and harm

In applying and advancing scientific knowledge, medical practice and associated technologies, direct and indirect benefits to patients, research participants and other affected individuals should be maximized and any possible harm to such individuals should be minimized.

Article 5 – Autonomy and individual responsibility

The autonomy of persons to make decisions, while taking responsibility for those decisions and respecting the autonomy of others, is to be respected. For persons who are not capable of exercising autonomy, special measures are to be taken to protect their rights and interests.

Article 6 – Consent

1. Any preventive, diagnostic and therapeutic medical intervention is only to be carried out with the prior, free and informed consent of the person concerned, based on adequate information. The consent should, where appropriate, be express and may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without disadvantage or prejudice.

2. Scientific research should only be carried out with the prior, free, express and informed consent of the person concerned. The information should be adequate, provided in a comprehensible form and should include modalities for withdrawal of consent. Consent may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without any disadvantage or prejudice. Exceptions to this principle should be made only in accordance with ethical and legal standards adopted by States, consistent with the principles and provisions set out in this Declaration, in particular in Article 27, and international human rights law.

3. In appropriate cases of research carried out on a group of persons or a community, additional agreement of the legal representatives of the group or community concerned may be sought. In no case should a collective community agreement or the consent of a community leader or other authority substitute for an individual’s informed consent.

Seems obvious enough. Bring on the lawyers.

 

PS I admit I stole the title for this essay from a tweet by longtime partner in crime Dave Collum. It has little to do with the matter at hand, but it’s just genius. And since I’m apparently getting a good lawyer anyway, sue me Collum.

 

 

 

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    Willem de Kooning Rosy-fingered Dawn at Louse Point 1963     The European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg on Thursday issued a controver
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    #72805
    madamski cafone
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    One thing I think we’re seeing here is the post-national “market-state” dying a stillbirth. Here we have government and corporatocracy working hand in glove with virtual impunity, and the thing is collapsing faster than a late 60s B-grade noir plot.

    #72807
    absolute galore
    Participant

    You would think some of the bad reactions to the Astrazeneca vaccine, which apparently can take up to several weeks at least to manifest, would give people pause. What’s to say the reactions to some of the other vaccines don’t come along for a year? I’m not that concerned about the vaccines being deadly or crippling, but since I don’t think I am at high risk for dying, I prefer not to be part of the gleeful herd. It all freaks me out from a human rights standpoint.

    You mention hospitality and travel workers not having a choice. But it’s a lot more than that–retail stores, salespeople, utility employees who go into people’s homes. And of course educators, medical personnel, I would assume law enforcement, etc. I’m currently employed as a sales person who is occasionally subjected to trade shows (blessedly all cancelled for the past year) and I am already under not so subtle pressure to get vaccinated.

    #72808
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Germany edges toward national lockdown; considers Russia’s Sputnik vaccine

    The wheel turns.

    @ absolute galore

    Turn it around on them. Have them put the request in writing so you can sue them if you get seriously ill. Something like that. You could pose it as a hypothetical question, a thought experiment.

    #72809
    madamski cafone
    Participant
    #72810
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    biden’s orphaned astrazeneca stockpile rises to 20 million doses

    Retreat! After all, they get their money which is all they wanted.

    #72811
    island raider
    Participant

    Teenage mutant ninja virus…’Rona on the half shell!

    Head’s up for anyone getting the jab. Two ladies I know, both around 80 years old, both received two doses of the Pfizer experimental vaccine, both suffered strokes approximately two weeks after the second shot. One had a transient ischemic attack (TIA). She is recovering at home. It caused a serious problem in one eye. The other lady had a more serious stroke, hospitalized for a week followed by several more weeks in rehabilitation facility learning to speak again. It is not known if she will be able to live independently again.

    #72812
    generic
    Participant

    If a person chooses to be injected with a Covid-19 “vaccine”, one should have the right to choose which to use. If a person should choose to be injected with one produced in Russia or India, that should be a personal choice. If the government claims that one of these is not safe, the burden of proof should be on the government to prove that assertion beyond a reasonable doubt. [And the same applies to treatment protocols.]

    #72813
    Germ
    Participant

    This was recently scrubbed by YouTube – https://lbry.tv/@max.eastman:b/GBD-with-Gov-DeSantis:b

    The narrative is utterly destroyed.
    Masks, vaccines, all of it. We are being completely bullshitted.

    Jay Bhattacharya is Professor of Medicine at Stanford University, Dr. Martin Kulldorff, a biostatistician, epidemiologist and professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School.

    Must watch.

    #72816
    Bill7
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    >The narrative is utterly destroyed.
    Masks, vaccines, all of it. We are being completely bullshitted. <

    That was obvious a year ago, to at least some of us.

    #72819
    Bill7
    Participant

    Good framing of the Situation here from Neil Clark: ‘Keeping us masked forever? The Davos set’s dystopian ambitions are very clear’:

    “It’s only for when you pop into Tesco’s to do your weekly shop, what‘s your problem with that, you selfish ‘right-wing’ libertarian?” That’s how the introduction of mandatory face-masks was sold to us in Britain last summer, by its virtue-signalling, “Look at me, I’m such a good citizen” supporters.

    Masks would be temporary – restricted to shops – and as soon as the Covid threat had passed they would be dispensed with, like social distancing. Anyone who said these measures were designed to be permanent – and were part of the global elite’s plan to keep the plebs muzzled up forever – was dismissed as a ‘crank’ and ‘a conspiracy theorist’.

    Well, nine months on, and where are we?

    The UK government has issued a ‘road map’ for taking us – with the speed of a 150-year-old Galapagos Island tortoise on sleeping tablets – out of lockdown. But there’s no mention of when masks and social distancing will be dispensed with.

    Could that be because there’s no intention of masks and social distancing ever being dispensed with? It certainly appears that way..”

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/520597-masks-davos-wef-covid/

    Without a face- and wearing a maskie, you are essentially without a face- is only this far from being without
    personhood; likely by design.

    “conspiracy theoriss!”

    #72821
    HerrWerner
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    @absolute-galore “I am already under not so subtle pressure to get vaccinated.”
    Yep. I think we all are feeling not-so-subtle pressure. Certainly the pop-media spends all day every day normalizing it. I hear it from my MD surgeon cousin and his MD wife, who want to hang out with us but not until we get shots. Never mind that we hung out in the summer and fall when Covid was raging, because Science(tm) and because they got the shot, being good consumers and All the Cool Kids Are Doing It and did I mention Science(tm).

    I will share with them my research on mRNA vaccines and how no science exists on long-term safety. I will share easily found knowledge of unknown risks from new “vaccines” and how most mRNA vaccines have had severe side effects in animal trials.

    I doubt it will have effect. The Dr and Mrs Dr are emotionally bought-in. In their wildest dreams I don’t think they can picture malfeasance coming from Big Pharma and its equivalent in govt and every other industry.

    It’s worrisome when genuinely smart people have such blind spots. It makes me worry about my own state and keeps me constantly wondering what *my* blind spots are. David Collum again – “As happens so frequently now, however, there are also no open minds left to change.”

    #72822
    zerosum
    Participant

    Successful Circle of Life. Domination
    Its normal. Its always happens this way.
    Wave I ———–> Wave II ———————>
    COVID-19 ——-> variant, B.1.1.7 ———->

    1. Survival of fittest
    2. Elimination of redundant
    3. Improvement of growth/culture medium
    4. Humans are the medium for the survival of covid virus

    SUCK IT UP. THE VIRUS IS WINNING

    #72824
    ctbarnum
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    While this might be a small nit to pick, it also presents as cause for legal action against any entity that seeks to force vaccinations or restrict other methods of treatment for COVID-19.

    “This judgment “reinforces the possibility of a compulsory vaccination under conditions of the current COVID-19 epidemic,” Nicolas Hervieu, a legal expert specializing in the ECHR, told AFP.”

    Epidemic, as opposed to pandemic, could be construed to mean we are for all intents and purposes no longer in a health emergency. Thus, all restrictions pertaining to said health emergency are null and void.

    #72825
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Posted to quick. But, yes, bring on the lawyers.

    #72831
    Germ
    Participant

    Must watch.

    “Any medic who says the vaccine is safe is guilty of medical malpractice”

    Dr Roger Hodkinson talks to Anna Brees:

    This is his bio – https://medmaldoctors.ca/dr-roger-hodkinson/

    #72832
    Bill7
    Participant

    It’s a FUDster..

    #72833
    zerosum
    Participant

    In other words
    Successful Circle of Life. Domination
    Its normal. Its always happens this way.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK26917/


    Molecular Biology of the Cell. 4th edition.
    Alberts B, Johnson A, Lewis J, et al.
    New York: Garland Science; 2002.

    Pathogens Have Evolved Specific Mechanisms for Interacting with Their Hosts

    The human body is a complex and thriving ecosystem. It contains about 10^13 human cells and also about 10^14 bacterial, fungal, and protozoan cells, which represent thousands of microbial species.

    In order to survive and multiply in a host, a successful pathogen must be able to: (1) colonize the host; (2) find a nutritionally compatible niche in the host body; (3) avoid, subvert, or circumvent the host innate and adaptive immune responses; (4) replicate, using host resources; and (5) exit and spread to a new host. Under severe selective pressure to induce only the correct host cell responses to accomplish this complex set of tasks, pathogens have evolved mechanisms that maximally exploit the biology of their host organisms. Many of the pathogens we discuss in this chapter are skillful and practical cell biologists. We can learn a great deal of cell biology by observing them.
    MORE AT THE LINK >>>>

    #72840
    Bill7
    Participant

    You are most welcome for the headline and the many [unattributed] links

    #72841
    WES
    Participant

    Here in Ontario we are just beginning another one month province wide lockdown, tighter than any previous monthly lockdowns. Actually we have been in lockdowns for over a year now.
    This is because the previous lockdowns didn’t work.
    For sure covid cases will climb even higher because it forces people to stay inside where they can catch covid.
    It is all about the new science!

    #72844
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    ‘Vaccine hesitancy’ is understandable. When injected the individual is taking a risk that benefits the community and becomes resistant to a disease that one may never be exposed to. Generally, in the past, adults/parents consented to this. But plagues are back. The measles outbreaks in the USA are within the anti-vaxx population or the home taught who skipped a public education and being forced to be vaccinated.

    The coronavirus pandemic is the direct result of failed governments. There is no alternative to mRNA jabs. The chances of being exposed to diseases are increasing for those who reject vaccination. Ultimately this is a response to money being the only measure of value in the West — the dismantling of democracy and devolving communities back into ethnic tribes.

    It is a package deal, public health, public education, good governance, and a better society go together. The nouveau riche will not pay for this. They are profiteers. As a result — war, famine, and the plague are again ravaging the world.

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