Jun 102021
 


Henri Matisse Odalisque couchée aux magnolias 1923

 

CDC Claims Hospitalization Rising Among Unvaccinated Teens (Blaze)
The Real Efficacy of Covid-19 Vaccines (OR)
Fauci Compares Criticism Of Him To ‘Attacks On Science’ (RT)
G7 Leaders Will Call For Fresh WHO Inquiry Into Covid Origins (G.)
Covid Distancing May Have Weakened Children’s Immune System (G.)
Mongolia Reports Fresh COVID Outbreak Despite High Vaccination Rates (ZH)
J&J Must Pay $2 Billion In Landmark Talcum Baby Powder Trial (ZME)
Yet Another Media Tale Collapses (Greenwald)
EU-UK Talks On Northern Ireland Appear Close To Collapse On Eve Of G7 (G.)
Joe Biden Accuses Boris Johnson Of ‘Inflaming’ Tensions In Ireland (Sun)
Zelensky Tells Biden Ukraine Needs Clear Plan For Accession To NATO (ZH)

 

 

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Neat little trick.

CDC Claims Hospitalization Rising Among Unvaccinated Teens (Blaze)

In order to justify the forced vaccination of children, the powers that be would somehow have to overturn 15 months of observations that COVID is less a threat to children than the flu and that unvaccinated children are less at risk than vaccinated adults (100 times less at risk than seniors), even if we are to believe Pfizer’s efficacy data. “CDC director reports spike in teen hospitalizations, urges parents to vaccinate kids over 12,” was the headline at the Hill on Friday, reporting on the CDC’s new study of hospitalizations. Naturally, it caught my attention because we all know that hospitalizations among all age groups have been plummeting to record lows across the country in recent weeks.

It turns out that along with its Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), the CDC published a “study” purporting to show an increase in hospitalizations among 12- to 17-year-olds, with one-third of them being in the ICU and 5% of them being placed on ventilators. CDC Director Rochelle Walensky was ready to pounce. “I am deeply concerned by the numbers of hospitalized adolescents and saddened to see the number of adolescents who required treatment in intensive care units or mechanical ventilation,” said Walensky in a statement. Of course, the solution is the great experimental gene therapy. “Until they are fully vaccinated, adolescents should continue to wear masks and take precautions when around other [sic] who are not vaccinated to protect themselves, and their family, friends, and community,” Walensky stated.

But there’s one problem. The CDC’s own data show that hospitalizations among all groups have plummeted over the past six weeks. It turns out they picked arbitrary start and end points – an old trick they’ve used with mask studies – which coincides with a period of increased hospitalizations among all age groups, including those with high vaccination rates. The study period of the CDC’s report was from March 1, 2020, to April 24, 2021. It just so happens that April 24 was roughly the peak period for ALL age groups! Most of that mini increase (after the major winter spread) was due to the final spring spread in the northeast and upper Midwest. Based on the CDC’s headlines, one would think that childhood hospitalizations are spreading now and that they are rising relative to other age groups. In reality, they have plummeted and only rose slightly from a near-zero baseline earlier this year along with other groups.

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To make it clear once and for all.

The Real Efficacy of Covid-19 Vaccines (OR)

Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) and Relative Risk Reduction (RRR)

Why are ARR and RRR very important? Very simply, let’s assume you have 100 people in a Treatment group and another 100 people in a Control or placebo group. Then, let’s say that 2 people get Disease X in the Control group while one person gets Disease X in the Treatment group. The Relative Risk Reduction or RRR in this example is 50% because one diseased person is 50% or half of 2 diseased people. However, the Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) is only 1% because in the treatment group, only one fewer people out of 100 participants got Disease X. You can also work it out using these formulas:

1) In the Treatment group, 1/100 got Disease X = 1% which is the EER (Experimental Event Rate)
2) In the Control or placebo group, 2/100 got Disease X = 2% which is the CER (Control Event Rate)
3) ARR (Absolute Risk Reduction) = CER – EER = 2% – 1% = 1%

In a subtraction the % signs carry through the equation and are kept.

4) RRR (Relative Risk Reduction) = ARR divided by CER = 1% divided by 2% = 1/2

In a division, the % signs cancel each other out and are not kept, but 1/2 is the same as 50%.

Let’s say the Treatment in this example had side effects, as most treatments do. If a patient were offered this Treatment and was told that the “efficacy” (how well the treatment works) was only 1% (the ARR) which is the true efficacy, this patient would be much less likely to accept the Treatment and its side effects than if he or she were told the efficacy was 50%. Fifty percent sounds a lot more promising than 1% but it reflects only the comparison between the diseased people of each group. The ARR or 1% efficacy is much more accurate as it reflects how many more people out of 100 will be protected from Disease X as a result of the Treatment. To just say that the Treatment is 50% effective in this scenario by ignoring the ARR is to introduce outcome reporting bias.

[..] Analysis of Pfizer’s Data

1) In the vaccine group, 8/18,198 got Covid-19 infection (not death) = 0.044% This is the EER (Experimental Event Rate)
2) In the Control (placebo) group, 162/18,325 got covid-19 infection (not death ) = 0.884% This is the CER (Control Event Rate)
3) ARR (Absolute Risk Reduction) = CER – EER = 0.884% – 0.044% = 0.84% = 0.84/100 = 0.0084
4) RRR (Relative Risk Reduction) = ARR divided by CER or 0.84% divided by 0.884% = 0.95

As this formula involves division, the percentage signs cancel out. 0.95 is the same as 95% which is what the Pfizer study reports for “efficacy.” An “efficacy” of 95% gives the impression that one is 95% less likely to catch Covid-19 if one is vaccinated with Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine. However,

5) the ARR or Absolute Risk Reduction, which is 0.0084 or 0.84%, is actually less than 1%

As shown under the ARR and RRR heading above, the ARR (of any study) is far more accurate than the RRR, but clearly, 95% sounds much more compelling than <1%. Referring to the “efficacy” of the Pfizer vaccine as 95% is not technically incorrect, but it is very misleading as this value does not properly inform the vaccine recipient. Such misrepresentation is at the very least unethical and at most illegal in many countries which require informed consent. Unfortunately, it is easy for outcome reporting bias to escape detection since the average individual, including the average doctor, does not understand ARR and RRR and will automatically assume that “95% efficacy” means 95% less likely to get Covid-19 in the real world.

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How much longer?

Fauci Compares Criticism Of Him To ‘Attacks On Science’ (RT)

White House health advisor Anthony Fauci pushed back against growing controversy surrounding him, equating attacks on him to “attacks on science.” While Fauci remains a leading force in the US government’s battle against Covid-19, he has become an increasingly divisive figure, especially in light of a recent dramatic flip on his position on vaccinated Americans masking, as well as leaked emails seemingly showing him wavering on public positions. Asked about continuing attacks from mainly conservative critics, Fauci equated the criticism to attacking science itself. “It’s very dangerous, Chuck, because a lot of what you’re seeing as attacks on me quite frankly are attacks on science, because all of the things that I have spoken about consistently from the very beginning, have been fundamentally based on science,” he told MSNBC’s ‘Meet the Press’ hosted by Chuck Todd.

While critics have argued Fauci’s emails show he was perhaps more open to a lab leak theory behind Covid-19 privately than publicly and flip-flopped his position on masking, the infectious disease expert has denied any wrongdoing in the messages. “If you go through each and every one of them you can explain and debunk it immediately,” he said. As he has done in the past, Fauci argued that when he has seemingly changed his position on issues like masking, it’s because new data has been presented. “As a scientist, as a health official, when those data change, when you get more information, it’s essential that you change your position because you’ve got to be guided by the science and the current data,” he said. It was Fauci’s “science” defense that really stirred his critics – and Fauci believes they want him “fired” or “put in jail.”

Beyond the dangerous arrogance and pomposity of proclaiming ‘anyone who criticizes me is attacking Science’ – thus placing himself off-limits from questioning – he *admitted* he purposely issued false, anti-science, politicized claims, such as telling people not to wear masks,” journalist Glenn Greenwald tweeted.

Fauci

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Yeah, sure Fauci would like that! Then again, as long as it’s the WHO doing the inquiry, he has nothing to fear.

G7 Leaders Will Call For Fresh WHO Inquiry Into Covid Origins (G.)

Leaders at the G7 summit will call for a new, transparent investigation by the World Health Organization into the origins of the coronavirus, according to a leaked draft communique for the meeting. The call was initiated by Joe Biden’s administration and follows the US president’s decision to expand the American investigation into the origins of the pandemic, with one intelligence agency leaning towards the theory that it escaped from a Wuhan laboratory. The broad consensus among scientific experts remains that the most likely explanation is that Covid-19 jumped to humans from an animal host in a natural event. An on-the-ground investigation by WHO experts earlier this year concluded t it was “extremely unlikely” the pandemic began in a laboratory.


According to Bloomberg News, which said it had sight of the draft communique, the G7 will also commit to deliver 1bn extra doses of the Covid-19 vaccine over the next year to accelerate global protection against the disease. The move may disappoint aid agencies that want most of the world’s 8 billion people to be vaccinated, but the communique will argue that the fresh commitment will dramatically increase the number of people in the developing world offered a vaccine. Ahead of his arrival at the summit, Biden said the US would commit to buying 500m doses of the vaccine for distribution to developing countries. The communique, which is often leaked ahead of the G7 summit, is due to be finalised on Sunday following a three-day meeting in Cornwall. At the 2020 summit in France, leaders abandoned publishing a list of commitments after Donald Trump refused to sign the letter.

Biden to announce a “vaccine plan for the world”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1402688704767041539

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May have?

Covid Distancing May Have Weakened Children’s Immune System (G.)

Scientists are concerned that measures to combat Covid-19 have weakened the immune systems of young children who have not been able to build up resistance to common bugs, leaving them vulnerable when mask-wearing and social distancing eventually end. Contact with viral pathogens happens on a fairly regular basis and although it does not always lead to sickness, the exposure helps shore the immune system against the threat should the bugs be encountered again. Over the past 14 months or so, protracted restrictions on mixing and travel, alongside mask-wearing and social distancing, have not only reduced the risk of Covid but other respiratory bugs such as the flu – cases of which were basically nonexistent last winter, according to surveillance data largely encompassing England compiled by the Royal College of GPs (RCGP).

However, virologists are concerned about RSV, a virus that can cause serious lung infections requiring hospital admission, and sometimes even death, in children under the age of one – and for which there are no approved vaccines. “Flu worries me, but there is a vaccine – and so the most vulnerable will still have access to the vaccines,” said Dr Catherine Moore, consultant clinical scientist for Public Health Wales. She warned that RSV currently has no vaccine. “Whereas what Covid has done has caused a big issue in our adult ICUs, we may see conversely problems in our paediatric hospitalisations and intensive care,” she said. Pre-Covid, most children encountered most seasonal viruses before they turned 18 months old.

But the biggest influx in paediatric hospital wards each winter are babies under the age of one who have for the first time been infected with RSV – because their lungs are not well developed, their bodies struggle to fight off the infection, explained Moore. Scientists are worried that if life begins to go back to pre-Covid normality, respiratory viruses that typically circulate every winter will return alongside the coronavirus. Moore said she was particularly worried about the risk of RSV in young children. “We’ve got two cohorts now of children who’ve never met the virus, so they are susceptible, but there’s two years’ worth of them!” Before the pandemic, data suggested more than 30,000 babies and children under five were admitted to hospital every year in the UK because of RSV. Assuming “normality” resumes later this year, “we are preparing for a significant impact in paediatrics”, said Moore.

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Is it Sinopharm?

Mongolia Reports Fresh COVID Outbreak Despite High Vaccination Rates (ZH)

For weeks now, Mongolia has been touted as an unexpected success story in the international vaccination project: the poor, mostly rural country lies between northeastern China and Russia’s resource-rich east. The country, which struck deals with its neighbors to stock its vaccine coffers months ago, drew attention due to its climbing international vaccination rate. But in recent days, Mongolia’s COVID-19 rate has surged, raising questions about the efficacy of China’s vaccines. More than half of Mongolia’s population has been fully vaccinated. But despite this, the country reported 1,312 new cases of the coronavirus on Wednesday as the country’s total infections neared 70K, with almost all of those recorded since January. New daily infections have risen more than 70% in the past two weeks, according to a New York Times database.

The landlocked nation has easily secured enough doses of the vaccine from Russia and China. And as its case numbers rise, Sinopharm’s vaccine has come under scrutiny because of a lack of transparency in its late-stage trial data. The vaccine faced more questions after the island nation of the Seychelles, which relied heavily on Sinopharm to inoculate its population, also saw a spike in cases, although most people did not become seriously ill. “Inactivated vaccines like Sinovac and Sinopharm are not as effective against infection but very effective against severe disease,” said Ben Cowling, an epidemiologist and biostatistician at the University of Hong Kong School of Public Health. “Although Mongolia seems to be having a spike in infections and cases, my expectation is that there won’t be large number of hospitalizations,” he added.

Doubts about the efficacy of China’s Sinopharm jab have been spreading for months, as the vaccine was repeatedly shown to be less effective than the new mRNA jabs from Pfizer and Moderna-BioNTech. In some areas, mutant strains may be spreading fast enough to cause concern even in countries where much of the population has vaccinations effective against them: Britain is dealing with a rise in cases linked to the Delta variant, despite having more than half of its adult population fully vaccinated, largely with shots from AstraZeneca and Pfizer. Still, the wave of infections has raised questions in Mongolia over why the government relied on the Sinopharm shots instead of a vaccine proven to be more effective.

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“If even a fraction of these cases succeed, it could cost J&J in the trillions.”

J&J Must Pay $2 Billion In Landmark Talcum Baby Powder Trial (ZME)

In 2018, a court verdict ordered Johnson and Johnson to pay $2.1 billion to 22 plaintiffs who claimed the company’s talcum baby powder contained asbestos and caused ovarian cancer. It’s a hefty fine, but the stakes are even higher — as the company faces around 21,000 other trials. The story (or at least one part of it) starts in 1999, when J&J was sued by a woman who had used their baby powder. She claimed that the powder gave her cancer. The woman (and her lawyer) had a hunch that the company’s baby powder was contaminated with asbestos, but couldn’t prove it. It seemed to make sense: in nature, talc and asbestos (both naturally-occurring minerals) are often found together, so there’s a significant risk of contamination. But without hard evidence, the case was dropped. As it turns out, Johnson and Johnson had the hard evidence all along.

The company, which denied any wrongdoing, had numerous lab tests showing that their product sometimes contained small amounts of asbestos, a known carcinogen. Two decades later, they were ordered to release these lab tests during a much larger trial that involved 11,700 plaintiffs, who all claimed the same thing: Johnson and Johnson’s baby powder sometimes contains asbestos. According to a Reuters investigation, J&J knew they were in the wrong, and hid it from both the public and regulators. In light of these findings, a Missouri jury initially awarded the women $4.7 billion — but an appeal dropped two women from the suit and reduced the award to $2 billion. The judge in that case ruled that the company had “misrepresented the safety of these products for decades” and demonstrated “particularly reprehensible conduct.”

J&J tried to push things even further. The case initially combined the claims of almost two dozen plaintiffs from 12 states. The company argued to the Supreme Court that the sprawling nature of the case violated the Constitution’s due process clause. But without comment, the top US court refused to consider J&J’s objections. “Today justice is served,” said Mark Lanier, the women’s lawyer. “Twenty families now get compensated for a horrible, unnecessary disease. And J&J, the trigger for that disease, is held accountable.” Jurors in the initial case awarded each woman $25 million in compensatory damages, in addition to the company fine. For J&J, this could be only the beginning. The company faces more than 26,000 lawsuits blaming baby powder for causing cancers — which could be the biggest litigation lawsuit in history. If even a fraction of these cases succeed, it could cost J&J in the trillions.

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Lafayette Park. Who will be held accountable?

Yet Another Media Tale Collapses (Greenwald)

The independent Inspector General of the Interior Department, Mark Lee Greenblatt, issued his office’s findings after a long investigation into “the actions of the U.S. Park Police (USPP) to disperse protesters in and around Lafayette Park in Washington, DC, on June 1, 2020.” Greenblatt has been around Washington for a long time, occupying numerous key positions in the Obama administration, including investigative counsel at the Department of Justice’s Office of Inspector General and Assistant Inspector General for Investigations at Obama’s Commerce Department. The letter released by Greenblatt’s office accompanying the report makes clear how far-reaching the investigation was:

“Over the course of this review, our career investigative staff conducted extensive witness interviews, reviewed video footage from numerous vantage points, listened to radio transmissions from multiple law enforcement entities, and examined evidence including emails, text messages, telephone records, procurement documents, and other related materials. This report presents a thorough, independent examination of that evidence to assess the USPP’s decision making and operations, including a detailed timeline of relevant actions and an analysis of whether the USPP’s actions complied with governing policies.”

The IG’s conclusion could not be clearer: the media narrative was false from start to finish. Namely, he said, “the evidence did not support a finding that the [U.S. Park Police] cleared the park on June 1, 2020, so that then President Trump could enter the park.” Instead — exactly as Hemingway’s widely-mocked-by-liberal-outlets article reported — “the evidence we reviewed showed that the USPP cleared the park to allow a contractor to safely install anti-scale fencing in response to destruction of Federal property and injury to officers that occurred on May 30 and May 31.” Crucially, “the evidence established that relevant USPP officials had made those decisions and had begun implementing the operational plan several hours before they knew of a potential Presidential visit to the park, which occurred later that day.”

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Good Friday.

EU-UK Talks On Northern Ireland Appear Close To Collapse On Eve Of G7 (G.)

Talks between the EU and the UK over Northern Ireland appear on the brink of collapse as London indicated it was still considering unilateral action to keep unhindered supplies flowing from Great Britain into the region. The European commission vice-president, Maros Sefcovic, said patience was “wearing very, very thin” and described the relationship with the UK as “at a crossroads”. Amid fears that the escalating crisis over Northern Ireland would develop into a trade war, David Frost, the Brexit minister, said there had been “no breakthroughs” over the Brexit checks but no “breakdowns” after a two-hour meeting with Sefcovic in London.


They agreed to continue to try to find a solution before 30 June when a ban on chilled meats including sausages and mincemeat is due to come into force. Late on Wednesday, Boris Johnson insisted that there was no crisis. “I’m very very optimistic about this. I think that’s easily doable,” he said, referring to an issue that was at the heard of the fraught Irish border negotiations two years ago: preventing a border on the island of Ireland while protecting trade within the UK post-Brexit. Johnson’s optimism could face a challenge at the G7 meeting on Thursday, however, when Joe Biden will warn him and the EU not to “imperil” the Northern Ireland peace process.

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Playing with fire.

Joe Biden Accuses Boris Johnson Of ‘Inflaming’ Tensions In Ireland (Sun)

Joe Biden has accused Boris Johnson of “inflaming” tensions in Ireland ahead of their first meeting in Britain today. The President is expected to address post-Brexit peace with the Prime Minister to ensure that the Good Friday Agreement is protected – as Britain and the EU try to resolve the issue of checks in the Irish Sea. But tensions over Britain’s handling of Irish issues have already been voiced by Biden, reports The Times. Yael Lempert, America’s most senior diplomat in Britain, told Lord Frost, the Brexit minister, that the government was “inflaming” tensions in Ireland and Europe with its opposition to checks at ports. Lempert said she had been told to take the step of issuing London with a demarche – which is a formal diplomatic reprimand rarely exchanged between allies.


The memo said that the US “strongly urged” Britain to come to a “negotiated settlement”, even if that meant “unpopular compromises,” according to reports. In a meeting on June 3, the US diplomat warned Frost that the increasingly bitter dispute between Britain and the EU over the protocol was “commanding the attention” of Biden before his first meeting with Johnson today. Ahead of the talks, Mr Biden’s national security adviser Jake Sullivan warned that the president harbours “very deep” concerns on the issue provoked by Brexit. Mr Sullivan said the president believes the post-Brexit Northern Ireland Protocol is “critical” to ensure that the Good Friday Agreement is protected – as Britain and the EU try to resolve the issue of checks in the Irish Sea.

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Ha ha ha!

Zelensky Tells Biden Ukraine Needs Clear Plan For Accession To NATO (ZH)

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky stressed in his phone conversation with U.S. President Joe Biden on Monday that Ukraine needs “a real step-by-step plan” tied to calendar dates for its accession to NATO, the chief of the Ukrainian presidential office Andriy Yermak said according to a report on Ukraine’s official website. The time of statements and declarations of intent should be a thing of the past, Zelensky told Biden. “There can be no doubt that Ukraine is an integral part of Europe in terms of its value foundation. Now, in the new situation in Europe, we need a logistical plan for Ukraine’s accession to the Alliance in the near future. NATO is a way of maximum protection for our country,” Zelensky said.

According to a second official report, Zelensky also informed Biden about the situation in Donbas, a Ukrainian territory temporarily occupied by Russian-backed separatists, and explained the reasons and nature of the periodic escalation of the conflict. “The so-called withdrawal of Russian troops is only an imitation,” Zelensky said. There was still a high concentration of Russian troops and heavy weapons in the temporarily occupied Ukraine’s territories and near the Ukrainian border, he explained. “Ukraine’s move to NATO is also an opportunity to achieve the preconditions for establishing a stable and lasting peace in Donbas,” the second report states.

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said on June 4 during an event at The Brookings Institution that the best way for Ukraine to move toward membership in NATO is to implement reforms to fight corruption and to modernize its defense and security institutions. “We are helping [Ukraine] with that as they move toward further Euro-Atlantic integration,” he added. NATO provides support to Ukraine in the form of training and capacity building, Stoltenberg said, and encouraged NATO Allies “to do more of that.”

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    Henri Matisse Odalisque couchée aux magnolias 1923   • CDC Claims Hospitalization Rising Among Unvaccinated Teens (Blaze) • The Real Efficacy of
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 10 2021]

    #77044
    Germ
    Participant
    #77045
    Germ
    Participant

    Mnnn Hmmm – *wink* *wink*

    “The government ran an exercise modelling the impact of a coronavirus outbreak four years before the Covid-19 outbreak but tried to keep it secret, the Guardian has learned.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jun/10/secret-planning-exercise-in-2016-modelled-impact-of-mers-outbreak-in-uk

    #77047
    Django
    Participant

    Unfortunately we seem to have killed the economy and granny as well.

    #77048
    oxymoron
    Participant

    I just want to thank you all but particularly Ilargi and Germ for the rolling info that is coming down the line. So useful and so important.

    #77049
    Germ
    Participant
    #77050
    Germ
    Participant

    Event 201 Brochure.
    Sept 2019.

    ‘Cover Art’ !!

    Haha …

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3f6J5kXoAQtDhx?format=jpg&name=medium

    #77051
    Germ
    Participant

    “During an emergency, it should be expected that implementation of some NPIs, such as travel restrictions and quarantine, might be pursued for social or political purposes by political leaders, rather than pursued because of public health evidence
    John Hopkins, September 2019

    #77052
    Germ
    Participant
    #77054
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Fauci equating himself with science reminds me of Ming the Merciless declaring “I am the universe” in one of the old Flash Gordon serials.

    #77056
    Germ
    Participant
    #77057
    Germ
    Participant

    “ Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.”

    Whatever. Now, roll up your sleeve …..

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2

    #77058
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    While The Blaze is normally a source I would normally view with no small amount of skepticism, the quote from the article in today’s Debt Rattle is solid because it merely shines a light on the CDC’s own figures. The Covid Compliance narrative must be really falling apart at this point if even the likes of The Blaze can easily discredit it.

    #77059
    oxymoron
    Participant

    It’s the planet, stupid

    #77060
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ Germ

    Your comment #77044 linked two very interesting articles of which the second I have yet to complete reading as I cannot further delay the daily work to survive. The following is from the second article that I found important

    Illich refused to “interiorize systems into the self.”  He would give up neither human nature nor natural law. “I just cannot shed the certainty,” he said in an interview with his friend Douglas Lummis, “that the norms with which we ought to live correspond to our insight into what we are.”  This led him to reject “responsibility for health,” conceived as a management of intermeshed systems.  How can one be responsible, he asked, for what has neither sense, boundary nor ground?  Better to give up such comforting illusions and to live instead in a spirit of self-limitation which he defined as “courageous, disciplined, self-critical renunciation accomplished in community.”

    Life had become a quasi-religious idol, presiding over an “ontology of systems.” Death had become a meaningless obscenity rather than an intelligible companion.

    The world, in his view, was not in his hands, but in the hands of God.

    By the time he died, in 2002, Illich stood far outside the new “way of seeing things” that he felt had established itself during the second half his life.  He felt that in this new “age of systems” the primary unit of creation, the human person, had begun to lose its boundary, its distinction and its dignity.  He thought that the revelation in which he was rooted had been corrupted – the “life more abundant” that had been promised in the New Testament transformed into a human hegemony so total and so claustrophobic that no intimation from outside the system could disturb it.  He believed that medicine had so far exceeded the threshold at which it might have eased and complemented the human condition that it was now threatening to abolish this condition altogether.  And he had concluded that much of humanity is no longer willing to “bear…[its] rebellious, torn and disoriented flesh” and has instead traded its art of suffering and its art of dying for a few years of life expectancy and the comforts of life in an “artificial creation.”

    #77061
    Germ
    Participant

    BMJ –

    “Why we petitioned the FDA to refrain from fully approving any covid-19 vaccine this year”

    Why we petitioned the FDA to refrain from fully approving any covid-19 vaccine this year

    #77062
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Fauci Compares Criticism of Him to ‘Attacks on Science’ (RT)”

    While defending his ego is hilarious, c’mon RT, what are you doing lying on his behalf? He didn’t “flip” and he didn’t “waver” (Or rather: he ALSO did those bad things) he LITERALLY was told Wuhan lab was a top suspect, INSTANTLY, and went out that day and LIED about it, violently, vehemently, with full force of his position and the law, knowing EVERY MINUTE, every word from his mouth was false, false, false. …And also, incidentally, that HE was personally responsible, having paid for it, protecting it, and having said it was all worth it.

    He didn’t “Waver” on masks: there was no new science. He LITERALLY told colleges it was pointless as viruses are too small, which is true. That masks don’t work, which was, and is, CDC researched fact. Then for some reason known only to him, he LITERALLY got up one day and lied about it over and over in a multitude of creative ways: one mask, two masks – but never N95 masks – four masks, knowing each and every day that masks did nothing, which he knew in JANUARY, of 2020. That is, immediately, instantly, without “wavering” or “flip-flopping.”

    That second part RT quotes, that “Frankly, he’s been consistent” is an interstellar whopper for the ages. I can’t think of any public figure who’s ever reversed more often or more randomly or more forcefully. “Read my lips” has nothing on this. Doesn’t matter. No one cares. Bored already. Nothing can, does, or ever will happen, as we all die of extreme old age waiting for a feather of consequences to fall. But to allow him opportunity: Tony, WHAT new science? Would you like to quote which study? Nope. Never does, because there are none. I’ve looked. All the doctors, a thousand doctors at a thousand typewriters, typing: no science, no studies.

    Greenwald – as so many – end up on the wrong side of this because there are so many tens of thousands of lies strewn about the landscape it’s nearly impossible NOT to be on the north side of SOMETHING. Dore as well, they all believe – as the Left does – that masks are and article of perfect faith and work wonders. Despite all evidence from all locations, people, and lockdown tests. Because for some reason the Left are believers in Authority, and the Right are believers in Independence, which makes them anti-authority even when it would be good for them. Another leftist, Pool, says of the Right, “They don’t believe in Trump’s own vaccine” and “You don’t believe your DOCTOR? What do you do???” Well it ain’t easy, I’ll tell you. But since Pfizer kills 10,000 people a year and pays a minor court fee, and every doctor I’ve been to has been a failure, charges me lots, doesn’t help, kicks me out to suffering, and/or stitches me up more poorly than a tailor, they’re worse at sewing than I am, well, it’s “F’ing Embarrassing”. They’re supposed to be the “experts”. You’d think they could at least sew skin a little. You’d think if they don’t know nutrition, they might at least do RANDOM blood tests, charge for everything and TRY not to have dead patients in their office? Nope. No pill, no service. If Pfizer didn’t sell it, it’s not a disease. They were strong on that billing though. The level of accepted failure is astonishing. And the answer was something like “Eat broccoli”. I know it’s true that 99 – 44/100th of patients wouldn’t do that, like “stop smoking with oxygen” is too much for the public, but that doesn’t mean you don’t tell them. Or me. Srs. So not trusting doctor to do f-all is really a life’s work and disappointment of total experience. Plus reading cumulative lawsuits in the 100,000’s. Ugh.

    No offense to the doctors present. You know what they don’t teach and what you’re up against. But if I had called 9 plumbers and none of them had successfully fixed a pipe without breaking it, but charged full price, gave it to a collection agency, and left the basement flooded, you’d know what I’d think.

    Speaking of: “J&J Must Pay $2 Billion In Landmark Talcum Baby Powder Trial (ZME)”

    Boy, good thing they just got $2B from the government to pay for that, isn’t it? And that nobody went to jail. Ever. Never-ever-ever.

    Use wrong pronouns! Jail, you bigot! We’ll spend $1,000 to SWAT your house in Scotland and Australia, hover over you ignorant Polocks in Canada! Poison people, a thousand, a million? Meh. S—t happens. And boy does it ever happen when you protect and incentivize it with a complete merger of Corporation and State.

    Way more important: As said, as even Tim Pool can see, the Reset, the Currency swap – you know the one that doesn’t exist and is a conspiracy theory, even though it’s published by the WEF, advertised by Schwab with full-color videos, and attended by every person of power and money in the whole west – that reset, the end of the dollar is happening RIGHT NOW. That’s the inflation, sure. We know that. But we’re hearing big money like BlackRock has stopped hiding in the shadows and is buying up every house, every real asset, the only market large enough to hide even SOME of their money, by buying billions in houses at $20-$40K over bid. They’re in a HURRY. That means it’s NOW.

    Why not? That’s Neo-Feudalism. “You’ll own NOTHING and LIKE it,” or else. WE’LL own it all and rent it back to you ’cause it’s immoral to have money but they don’t mind. Have a ten-billion a month from Powell, gotta put somewhere? Buy up assets. Run out of money? Hahahaaha: there’s no such number. Call Powell on the phone and borrow more billions, INFINITE billions, trillions, and buy the houses anyway. So 0% free money one hand, infinite bidding power to own all REAL things in the nation, the whole world, on the other. This is how Louis Vitton’s owner became the top billionaire: the ECB gave him infinite free money to buy anything in existence. So he did.

    …Just like Max Kaiser predicted and we’ve been saying for 50 to 100 years.

    Why on earth would you ever NOT do this? Of COURSE you would. Easier than candy from a baby. Own and control everything, where the only response is violent revolution, which we’re carefully gridding and tracking and droning you for. To kill and purge you. Under the China model.

    But once you pull the pin, inflation starts in these conditions, there’s no putting it back. It’s over: the currency swaps. But to WHAT remains the question. “Who is to be master: that is all.” My bet is, it’s messy, but they lost. Keeping in mind they’re going to shut off food, pipelines, heat, electric, and medicine and kill as many people, make as many suffer as humanly possible to “encourage” them to “DO WHAT THEY’RE TOLD.”

    I don’t think Americans are capable of that, though. Not the kind of win I want, but as I’ve said, you didn’t think we were going to walk away from this, did you, after what we’ve done? Buckle up, Buckaroos.

    #77063
    zerosum
    Participant

    Vaccines success story has not been on “herd Immunity”.
    Vaccines success story has been on wealth transfer

    Herd immunity is achieved by the immune system, ( memory T cells recognizing the virus), keeping everything working as per the plan.

    IN BALANCE
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

    At the molecular level, viruses escape from herd immunity through antigenic drift, which is when mutations accumulate in the portion of the viral genome that encodes for the virus’s surface antigen, typically a protein of the virus capsid, producing a change in the viral epitope.[35][36] Alternatively, the reassortment of separate viral genome segments, or antigenic shift, which is more common when there are more strains in circulation, can also produce new serotypes.[31][37] When either of these occur, memory T cells no longer recognize the virus, so people are not immune to the dominant circulating strain.[36][37] For both influenza and norovirus, epidemics temporarily induce herd immunity until a new dominant strain emerges, causing successive waves of epidemics.[

    #77064
    zerosum
    Participant

    Find the lies

    England’s Lockdown Could Continue Despite Deaths Being Below 5 Year Average


    England’s Lockdown Could Continue Despite Deaths Being Below 5 Year Average
    And 80% of the population has COVID-19 antibodies.
    Published 9 hours ago on 9 June, 2021 Paul Joseph Watson

    “Deaths in England and Wales have been below the five-year average for 11 of the past 12 weeks. Given that 80% of adults now have COVID antibodies, what possible grounds could there be to delay the full reopening?” asked Toby Young.

    Hmm, almost like there’s another agenda in play?

    #77065
    Mr. House
    Participant

    #77066
    zerosum
    Participant

    Future Choice of diets regime
    Supply line disruptions
    Inflation

    #77067
    zerosum
    Participant

    Oil in the ground is better than money in the bank.
    It will sell higher tomorrow

    Joe Biden has cancelled the permit allowing the Keystone XL pipeline It was slated to carry oil from Alberta’s tar sands.

    #77068
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    Germ and all you great commentators thank you for enriching my day. Loved the Illich piece. I have most of his works and plan to take them with me to my grave.

    #77069
    Django
    Participant

    I wonder if a Covid Marshall humiliation and harassment programme might not be an idea. I know that they’re very low down the scale but they chose the job. Just following them around and immitating them will break them after a day or two.

    #77070
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks Huskynut for The Kitsch COVID Aesthetic article last night

    The Kitsch Covid Aesthetic

    Ignoring morality and intellect may feel ok while everybody hangs together with food and whine, but it’s a mile wide and an inch deep.

    #77071
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks for this interesting piece, Germ.
    It fits right into my conceptual structure without budging anything else in the slightest…

    Secret planning exercise in 2016 modelled impact of Mers outbreak in UK
    Expert says Exercise Alice, one of 10 exercises disclosed under FoI, could have been relevant to Covid response

    #77072
    Mr. House
    Participant

    What is more dangerous if you’re an “elite”? Hyping a virus to be more then it is as an excuse to tighten your grip, or letting the chips fall where they may and trying to navigate the free market? Short term the second option would be more dangerous, longer term the first option is more dangerous. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. And since you don’t believe in anything except your wealth and short term goals, its obvious which you will choose. When reviewing actions and inactions taken at the global or national level, don’t think of how you yourself would react. Put yourself in the shoes of your “betters”, you know how they think based on prior actions, but you still continue to review their actions from the lens of what you would do. What you would do is a good base to see that what they do is bullshit. Stop letting Lucy pull the football away everytime an issue gets decided. Give up all of your prior loyalties, evolve or die.

    #77073
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ Dr. D


    But to WHAT remains the question. “Who is to be master: that is all.” My bet is, it’s messy, but they lost. Keeping in mind they’re going to shut off food, pipelines, heat, electric, and medicine and kill as many people, make as many suffer as humanly possible to “encourage” them to “DO WHAT THEY’RE TOLD.”

    I suspect China will be master

    #77074
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    • The Real Efficacy of Covid-19 Vaccines (OR)

    Before the Covid vaccines were being promoted, the “absolute risk reduction” (ARR) was said to be “the most useful way of presenting research results to help your decision-making.” The relative risk measures were thereby less useful and said to be used “for technical reasons.”

    (The article above shows that the Pfizer vaccine’s “absolute risk reduction” didn’t even reach 1%.)

    From the National Institute of Health site (nih.gov):


    Chapter 18
    Relative risk, relative and absolute risk reduction, number needed to treat and confidence intervals

    Relative and absolute risks

    How do you interpret the results of a randomised controlled trial? A common measure of a treatment is to look at the frequency of bad outcomes of a disease in the group being treated compared with those who were not treated. For instance, supposing that a well-designed randomised controlled trial in children with a particular disease found that 20 per cent of the control group developed bad outcomes, compared with only 12 per cent of those receiving treatment. Should you agree to give this treatment to your child? Without knowing more about the adverse effects of the therapy, it appears to reduce some of the bad outcomes of the disease. But is its effect meaningful?

    This is where you need to consider the risk of treatment versus no treatment. In healthcare, risk refers to the probability of a bad outcome in people with the disease.

    Absolute risk reduction (ARR) – also called risk difference (RD) – is the most useful way of presenting research results to help your decision-making. In this example, the ARR is 8 per cent (20 per cent – 12 per cent = 8 per cent). This means that, if 100 children were treated, 8 would be prevented from developing bad outcomes. Another way of expressing this is the number needed to treat (NNT). If 8 children out of 100 benefit from treatment, the NNT for one child to benefit is about 13 (100 ÷ 8 = 12.5).

    For technical reasons, some other measures are often used. The relative risk (RR) of a bad outcome in a group given intervention is a proportional measure estimating the size of the effect of a treatment compared with other interventions or no treatment at all. It is the proportion of bad outcomes in the intervention group divided by the proportion of bad outcomes in the control group. In this hypothetical case, the RR is 0.6 (12 per cent ÷ 20 per cent = 0.6).

    When a treatment has an RR greater than 1, the risk of a bad outcome is increased by the treatment; when the RR is less than 1, the risk of a bad outcome is decreased, meaning that the treatment is likely to do good. For example, when the RR is 2.0 the chance of a bad outcome is twice as likely to occur with the treatment as without it, whereas an RR of 0.5 means that the chance of a bad outcome is twice as likely to occur without the intervention. When the RR is exactly 1, the risk is unchanged. For example, a report may state ‘The relative risk of blindness in people given drug T was 1.5’. This shows that the drug increased the risk of blindness.

    Smart Health Choices: Making Sense of Health Advice.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK63647/

    #77075
    John Day
    Participant

    “It takes a fast car, Baby, to lead a double life.” The Cars

    Bill Gates Had a Car-Changing System for Meeting Women, Forced Staff to Keep Quiet


    #77076
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    That map of China (“94% live here”) reminds me of this map of Australia (“Only 2% of the Australian population lives in the yellow area.”)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDDzOBpU4AMxVMR.jpg

    #77077
    John Day
    Participant

    @MichaelReid: Maybe there is not enough wealth to support an overriding master as the resources deplete. Increasingly granular “multipolarity” and trade make sense in a world of progressively less material wealth.
    Chinese power is traditionally the most centralized, a weakness in this scenario,
    Chinese history does show that all the mistakes have been made already, and the ways to avoid them are well known to Chinese rulers.

    Conservatism, not bold threats and destruction, may prevail.

    One might hope.

    #77078
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Speaking of Australia, wonder how many members of my generation think that this is the Australian national anthem?

    #77080
    Germ
    Participant

    Time to relinquish any ideas you may have had about what life in India is like.

    Here’s a profoundly depressing montage, with a some interesting embedded videos, of life in India during this pandemic.

    COVID in India

    I spent 22 months floating through India on my very own ‘magic carpet’ over 30 years ago.
    What a place.

    #77081
    John Day
    Participant

    @Germ: I have traveled extensively in India, Nepal and Sikkim, but not for as long as you, b ut with Jenny and the kids.
    @Mister Roboto: It’s THIS!

    #77083
    John Day
    Participant

    ​This is the bigger Spanish calcifediol (active vitamin-D) study. Same results as the smaller one last year with 76 patients.
    ​Conclusions
    In patients hospitalized with COVID-19, calcifediol treatment significantly reduced ICU admission and mortality.
    https://academic.oup.com/jcem/advance-article/doi/10.1210/clinem/dgab405/6294179

    ​Some people ​(where do they get their information?) ​grudgingly acknowledge that having had COVID “might be almost as good as vaccination”.
    The immune systems of more than 95% of people who recovered from COVID-19 had durable memories of the virus up to eight months after infection.
    The results provide ​HOPE​ that people receiving SARS-CoV-2 vaccines will develop similar lasting immune memories after vaccination.
    https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19

    ​So only about half got stolen and sent out of the country?
    ​ As much as half of the unemployment benefits paid by the US government over the past year may have been stolen through fraud, with the bulk ultimately ending up outside the country – likely into the hands of foreign crime syndicates in China, Nigeria, Russia and elsewhere, according to Axios’ Felix Salmon.
    According to some estimates, unemployment fraud during the pandemic could ‘easily reach $400 billion,’ as states weren’t prepared for the unprecedented wave of unemployment claims.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/bailout/half-pandemic-unemployment-funds-may-have-been-stolen-axios

    #77084
    John Day
    Participant

    Sacrifice Your Children https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/06/sacrifice-your-children.html

    Russians are laughing.
    ​ US President Joe Biden said on Wednesday that he aims to make clear to Russia and China that the United States, the European Union, and the G7 are united in their position and will act.
    “Strengthening the alliance, make it clear to [Russian President Vladimir] Putin and to China that Europe and the United States are tight, and the G7 is going to move,” Biden told reporters answering a question about the goal of his trip to Europe.
    https://sputniknews.com/world/202106091083108757-biden-says-aims-to-make-clear-to-putin-china-that-us-eu-united-g7-will-act/

    Who might have more to lose with a financial-system hack-attack, leading to breakdown, and blamed on “Russian state hackers”? We may soon see.
    Secretary of State Antony Blinken in an appearance on “Axios on HBO” previewed what he expects to come out of the Putin-Biden summit set for June 16 in Geneva. The short answer is: not much except for vague warnings and threats, it appears. Blinken said during the interview that the US president intends to warn Putin “directly and clearly what he can expect from the United States if aggressive, reckless actions toward us continue.”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/blinken-says-biden-will-put-future-cyberattack-warnings-front-center-putin-summit

    ​It’s not just Dr Seuss that’s “racist”. Can we eat sweet potatoes and black-eyed peas, or not?
    ​ ​The article, titled ‘Food injustice has deep roots: let’s start with America’s apple pie’, was published in May but is still raising eyebrows over the author’s reflections on the history of colonialism and slavery enshrined in the dessert’s recipe and its sugary crust.
    ​ ​“Apples travelled to the Western hemisphere with colonists in the 1500s in what used to be called the Columbian Exchange, but is now better understood as a vast and ongoing genocide of Indigenous people,” Patel writes.
    https://sputniknews.com/us/202106091083108740-as-woke-culture-gains-momentum-apple-pie-has-now-apparently-been-branded-racist-too/

    #77085
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    • Mongolia Reports Fresh COVID Outbreak Despite High Vaccination Rates (ZH)

    Some additional context:

    According to Worldometer and OurWorldInDataMongolia is now in its first wave of Covid cases. Total cumulative Covid deaths for the entire country, for the past 18 months, are only 334.

    With about half of its population fully vaccinated (mostly with the inactived-virus vaccine from Sinopharm), the rising case numbers (Indian variant?) could be largely confined to the half of the population that is not fully vaccinated.

    I imagine that this type of article is meant to instill doubts about the Chinese vaccines, especially since they are the traditional type of vaccine that’s competing with the mRNA vaccines being pushed in the US and Europe.

    Sinopharm doesn’t look as good as the Sinovac vaccine, which is also made with inactivated Covid viruses. The trial data for the Sinovac vaccine shows it to be much, much safer (in my view) than the mRNA and adenovirus vector vaccines. The adverse reactions from the mRNA vaccines were significantly worse. With the Sinovac vaccine, fever (for example) was almost nonexistent, and some of the trial data shows that headaches (for example) in the vaccinated group were less than in the placebo group.

    Much has been made in the press about Sinovac’s lower efficacy, but it still was 100% effective at preventing hospitalizations and deaths, and 84% effective (as I recall) at preventing more than a “very mild” case of Covid (which requires no treatment at all). Sinovac sounds like it could be the ideal type of Covid vaccine, abiding by the “first, do no harm” principle, while being effective enough to prevent Covid from becoming more than a bad cold. Not surprising if the mRNA vaccine makers (and the related narrative makers) are trying to put a negative spin on the more-rational traditional vaccines like Sinovac..

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/mongolia/
    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/mongolia

    #77086
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Trump’s Horrifying Exit Traumatized America” – CNN Dammit! He can’t even LEAVE right. Only one cure for that, I guess: bring him back. Right?

    News Stats: Trump is still in the news 20% more than Biden. Wha? Because who is relevant and who decides? Like I said in ’15, THEY ARE THE ONES GIVING HIM POWER. With their attention. In politics, the guy who is talked about is the one they look to, the one in charge, the real power. You’d think after 5 years of non-stop failure, infinite navel-gazing, re-hashing, kvetching, they might notice, but NOPE! They’re Columbia Students, immune to all knowledge.

    Proof: “Russia Investigation: Ex-White House counsel was worried Trump’s handling of Mueller probe would ‘spiral’” –MSNBC

    MSNBC? They 70’s called, they want their news back. It’s in the name: NEWs. Think I’m kidding?

    The Shocking Government Leak that Changed Everything in the 1970’s” – CNN.

    As in, something new, that actually happened.

    “How U.S. cities are preparing for a summer of gun violence.” –CNN. That is, reporting a story that hasn’t happened yet and might not ever. This is like 1/10th of their news now, right behind ads that are fake stories. This was the whole year of “2nd Wave,” “3rd Wave,” Polar Bears dead, Manhattan underwater. The future: Reported as news. Then never happened. No one notices. They’re just as mad, have PTSD as if the said things were real things.

    This is beyond fake, like the Trump Photo-Op story today (Newsflash: obsolete, not news.) or being wrong because you’re crap at your only job, like the Syrian Gas Attacks. This is reporting the FUTURE. Like how they reported in November that Trump definitely pulled a coup and stayed in office after the election like a Dictator: Riot at Will (mask free).

    Is there any level of failure or illogic that can register anymore? Is there any failure that can inspire shame or remediation in a shameless nation?

    Comment in your link:

    Another framing is to say that covid has been a certain kind of story.
    Once a story is begun, it has to be told to the end. No story ever told ran through chapters one to four and then backed out again.

    The genre-switching story, the unreliable narrator, the stream of consciousness: these will always be unsatisfying experiments. The twist ending: that’s a more familiar device, but not to everyone’s taste.

    What we demand is something simple and epic. A mystery, a villain, reverses and crisis, finding new resolve, a final confrontation and victory.”

    That is a very perceptive observation. The handlers cannot stop the ride either. It’s questionable if they even control it or it controls them. As Madam would say: they’re riding the tiger. Don’t miss. Don’t fall off.

    #77087

    “Daszak [in 2015] reiterated that, until an infectious disease crisis is very real, present, and at an emergency threshold, it is often largely ignored. To sustain the funding base beyond the crisis, he said, we need to increase public understanding of the need for MCMs such as a pan-influenza or pan-coronavirus vaccine. A key driver is the media, and the economics follow the hype. We need to use that hype to our advantage to get to the real issues. Investors will respond if they see profit at the end of process, Daszak stated.”

    This comes from David Martin here.

    That dramatic opening chart…
    Does anyone else have the sneaking suspicion that some of the “vaccines” are just saline? I got a vague sense that some countries get salt water and others get the spike.
    After all, if this is a “trial”, where are the controls?
    I’d love to see Vaers reports mapped out.

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