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The Jabs Must Be BANNED (Denninger)
Fully Vaccinated Israelis Exposed To “Delta” May Be Forced To Quarantine (ZH)
Israel Urges Parents To Vaccinate Kids Ages 12-15 (JPost)
WHO Official: Mask Mandates, Social Distancing Must Continue Indefinitely (SN)
Optimizing Decision-Making Processes in Times of COVID-19 (FIP)
More Than 2m Adults In England Have Had Long Covid For Over 12 Weeks (G.)
England Set to Drop Face Mask Rules After Huge Economic Impact Revealed (SN)
Pursuing Truth In Covid Drug Treatment Amid A Censored Media Landscape (Hecker)
Hillary Clinton Privately Warned France About Wuhan P4 Lab (HE)
Elephants’ 500km-Trek Across China Baffles Scientists (BBC)
High Court Delays as Assange Remains in Jail (Craig Murray)

 

 

 

 

 

 

“If you coerced some young person to get the jab and they get hammered you should forfeit your own children’s lives as you are the reason they got ****ed.”

The Jabs Must Be BANNED (Denninger)

… in those under 18 and strongly discouraged in healthy adults under 50. Those who promoted them in people under the age of 30 in addition must face justice. There was never any science supporting it on a risk:benefit basis. The CDC documents about 35 total Covid-related deaths in people under the age of 18 years all the way back to March of 2020. This table is utterly gob-smacking damnable and is what we get for “Warp Speed” — a litany of serious harms, many of which will wind up as deaths — more deaths in those under 18 than Covid caused.

The experience .vs. expected rate is anywhere from ten to one hundred times higher than “random chance” in those under 24 years old, and form 3-30 times higher in those under 30. If we presume that one in ten of these cases will eventually kill the person involved, which is likely conservative (the usual expectation is that half of these cases in the population generally that result in hospitalization eventually progress to heart failure and either a transplant or death within five years) these “side effects” will kill more people in the under-25 group than Covid has all the way back to the start of the pandemic. The others, who are not killed, will wind up with monstrous medical bills they will have to pay and some amount of permanent damage to their cardiac health.

This is from one side effect alone. Only those over 50 have an incidence of this result that is inline with expectations; everyone younger is either at or beyond the upper boundary. In addition this data is almost-certainly incomplete as VAERS is a non-mandatory system and thus does not capture all events. The degree of under-reporting is not able to be accurately bracketed but that it occurs is an absolute fact. Therefore these reports are floors, not ceilings, and as such must be taken as a lower boundary only, yet even in that context they demonstrate utterly unacceptable risk that, in any ordinary civil proceeding would lead to strict liability.

THESE SHOTS MUST BE IMMEDIATELY STOPPED FOR ALL HEALTHY PERSONS UNDER THE AGE OF 30 and strongly recommended against up to the age of 50 years unless the person receiving them has a serious morbid condition and has been tested negative for prior exposure to the virus itself. That the CDC delayed this meeting for “Juneteenth” ought to get people imprisoned; this is an immediate emergency action item and to postpone it was utterly indefensible.

Any college administration that continues to hold forth a “requirement” for these shots in students should have their children put up as collateral to face the same outcome as any of the students who die as a result of these jabs, with said bond being good for the next ten years since myocarditis often leads to heart failure with the next five years in people it strikes. If you coerced some young person to get the jab and they get hammered you should forfeit your own children’s lives as you are the reason they got ****ed.

Administration of these shots to a previously-recovered person under 50 is, on the strength of this data, gross negligence and, if they get hit, attempted manslaughter or, if the person ultimately suffers heart failure, actual manslaughter. And no, gross negligence is not covered by the “immunity” that HHS gave the vaccine manufacturers and health professionals; any person or organization administering such a shot to someone who is healthy and under 30 should be immediately sued as their so-called “protection” is presumptively void.

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Geert VanDen Bossche: FAQ updated: May 25, 2021

[#13 ]How can it be explained that in Israel it seems that the massive vaccination has almost stopped the pandemic and no dramatic effects are being observed over people that have been vaccinated?

It’s just a matter of weeks for a surge in Israel to occur due to resistance of the virus to vaccinal antibodies in vaccinees. I expect this surge to occur before summer.

Fully Vaccinated Israelis Exposed To “Delta” May Be Forced To Quarantine (ZH)

As concerns about the threat posed by the “Delta” variant, a mutant strain of COVID-19 first discovered in India that’s believed to be much more dangerous than rival strains, intensify, Israeli health officials have just been given the authority to quarantine pretty much anybody who is exposed to “Delta”, even if the individual is already fully vaccinated, Reuters reports. The heavy-handed decision comes after a warning by new Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett on Tuesday over new outbreaks caused by “Delta” . Bennett complained that daily infections have been rising again in Israel after weeks of a low plateau credited to the country’s record mass-vaccination drive.

Under the updated Health Ministry directive, vaccinated or formerly infected people can be ordered to self-isolate for up to 14 days if authorities suspect they may have passed in “close contact with a carrier of a dangerous virus variant.” This could include having been passengers on the same plane, the ministry said, a possible dampener on Israel’s gradual opening of its borders to vaccinated summer tourists. Addressing the Knesset (Israel’s parliament), Health Minister Nitzan Horowitz said fines of “thousands of shekels” might be levied against Israeli citizens or residents who travel to countries blacklisted as high COVID-19 risks.

On June 16, the Health Ministry listed Argentina, Brazil, South Africa, India, Mexico and Russia as off-limits to Israeli citizens or residents unless they receive special permission. Some 55% of Israel’s 9.3MM population have received both doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, and a steep drop in cases had prompted most economic restrictions to be lifted. But just days earlier, Israel announced plans to start vaccinating teenagers between the ages of 12 and 15.

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There you go. Why bother about what the WHO says? What do they know anyway?

Israel Urges Parents To Vaccinate Kids Ages 12-15 (JPost)

Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, Health Minister Nitzan Horowitz and other relevant officials and experts, including transportation, interior and education ministers met Sunday night to decide on new measures to address the risk of increased morbidity following a number of coronavirus outbreaks at several Israeli schools. They agreed to task some additional 250 police officers to enforce isolation requirements for those returning from abroad, build a new testing complex at Ben-Gurion Airport and increase the number of testing stations, as well as carry out a communication campaign to foster awareness of the importance of respecting quarantine regulations among the public.


In addition, the authorities will investigate the gap between the number of violations of quarantine and the fines given, and will consider the position of parents whose unvaccinated children do not quarantine after returning from abroad. The ministers also confirmed that Israelis are not going to be allowed to fly to countries under travel ban – Argentina, Brazil, India, Mexico, Russia and South Africa, unless they obtain a special permission from the dedicated government committee. A further meeting to discuss the issues related to the coronavirus will be scheduled in the next few days.

Tucker WHO

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Sorry, bud, not going to happen.

WHO Official: Mask Mandates, Social Distancing Must Continue Indefinitely (SN)

A top WHO official says that mask mandates and social distancing should continue indefinitely in order to protect against new variants of COVID-19. The comments were made on Sky News by Special Envoy on Covid for the World Health Organisation (WHO). Dr David Nabarro. Nabarro suggested that there would be a long list of mutations of the Indian variant which would in some cases evade the protection offered by vaccines. “We will go from Delta to Lambda and then on to the other Greek letters, that’s inevitable, and some of these variants will be troublesome,” he said. “I’m basically saying variants are going to go on coming. That’s part of life, we need to pick them up fast, we need to move quickly if we see them in a certain location, we need to build the management of variants into what we call our Covid-ready strategy, which is going to be the pattern for the foreseeable future,” he added.


According to Nabarro, mask mandates and social distancing need to remain in place for the foreseeable future “as part of our defence” against COVID, particularly in regions which have high infection rates. As we highlighted earlier, England is set to drop all face mask rules on July 19 after it was revealed that they were having a massive negative impact on businesses and wiping billions off the economy. Several government advisers have called for coronavirus restrictions to continue forever, not just to defend against COVID, but also to fight influenza. Former Communist Party member and SAGE adviser Susan Michie said earlier this month that mask mandates and social distancing should continue “forever” and that people should adopt such behaviour just as they did with wearing seatbelts. It never ends.

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Referenced by Robert Malone.

Optimizing Decision-Making Processes in Times of COVID-19 (FIP)

The effectiveness of policymakers’ decision-making in times of crisis depends largely on their ability to integrate and make sense of information. The COVID-19 crisis confronts governments with the difficult task of making decisions in the interest of public health and safety. Essentially, policymakers have to react to a threat, of which the extent is unknown, and they are making decisions under time constraints in the midst of immense uncertainty. The stakes are high, the issues involved are complex and require the careful balancing of several interests, including (mental) health, the economy, and human rights. These circumstances render policymakers’ decision-making processes vulnerable to errors and biases in the processing of information, thereby increasing the chances of faulty decision-making processes with poor outcomes.

Prior research has identified three main information-processing failures that can distort group decision-making processes and can lead to negative outcomes: (1) failure to search for and share information, (2) failure to elaborate on and analyze information that is not in line with earlier information and (3) failure to revise and update conclusions and policies in the light of new information. To date, it has not yet been explored how errors and biases underlying these information-processing failures impact decision-making processes in times of crisis. In this narrative review, we outline how groupthink, a narrow focus on the problem of containing the virus, and escalation of commitment may pose real risks to decision-making processes in handling the COVID-19 crisis and may result in widespread societal damages.

Hence, it is vital that policymakers take steps to maximize the quality of the decision-making process and increase the chances of positive outcomes as the crisis goes forward. We propose group reflexivity—a deliberate process of discussing team goals, processes, or outcomes—as an antidote to these biases and errors in decision-making. Specifically, we recommend several evidence-based reflexivity tools that could easily be implemented to counter these information-processing errors and improve decision-making processes in uncertain times.

Tucker Robert Malone

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Hmmm. Not sure. Many healthy people also have “fatigue-related symptoms” due to lockdowns.

More Than 2m Adults In England Have Had Long Covid For Over 12 Weeks (G.)

More than 2 million adults in England have experienced coronavirus symptoms lasting over 12 weeks, government data suggests – double the previous estimate for long Covid. The study, one of the largest to date, found that people with ongoing symptoms tended to fall into two categories: those with respiratory symptoms, who often experienced more severe illness when they first got sick, and a second group with fatigue-related symptoms. Like previous studies, it found that women were more commonly affected and that the prevalence of ongoing symptoms increased with age. Researchers described the findings as “alarming”.

The React-2 study is a government-funded population surveillance study that uses finger-prick antibody tests from randomly selected adults in England to assess how far coronavirus has spread. Between September and February, 508,707 participants were also asked whether they thought they had had Covid and about the presence and duration of 29 different symptoms. The research, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, found that 37.7% of those who had symptomatic Covid experienced at least one symptom lasting 12 weeks or more – equivalent to 2 million people – while 14.8% experienced three or more persistent symptoms.

“The scale of the problem is quite alarming,” said Prof Kevin McConway, emeritus professor of applied statistics at the Open University. “The results can’t tell us clearly how serious those symptoms were in terms of their effects on the patients’ lives. Some may not be very serious, but some of them certainly are, and these results clearly point out how vital it is to understand them properly and to provide adequate treatment and support services for the people involved.”

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“The Science”.

England Set to Drop Face Mask Rules After Huge Economic Impact Revealed (SN)

England is set to drop all face mask rules on July 19th after it was revealed that keeping such restrictions in place is costing the economy billions and will force many businesses to close. “The requirement to wear facemasks on public transport and in shops will be replaced with guidance advising people to wear masks in certain circumstances, rather than compelling them,” reports the Times. The decision follows the findings of an internal economic impact assessment produced by the government’s Events Research Programme which detailed the massive impact social distancing measures are having on businesses. Politico Playbook reveals that, “keeping any measures would cost the economy billions and see many businesses close.”


Specifically, indoor seated venues such as the arts, cinemas and business events would achieve just 59 per cent of their 2019 turnover if restrictions remain, costing them a whopping £4.88 billion over the next year. Even if the only remaining restriction kept in place is face masks, “The entire events industry would reach just 82 percent of its 2019 turnover. Indoor seated venues would get just 72 percent. Indoor non-seated just 65 percent. Outdoor non-seated venues would manage just 82 percent of their 2019 figure.” The events industry as a whole is bringing in only 60 per cent of normal revenue under the current restrictions, which will likely continue until July 19th.

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Gotta love her.

Pursuing Truth In Covid Drug Treatment Amid A Censored Media Landscape (Hecker)

Finally covering the story on COVID drug treatments that I wasn’t allowed to air on FOX. A look at why one Houston hospital has a dramatically lower COVID death rate than anywhere else and the ways the media skated around the facts at that hospital. [..] The death rate from COVID-19 is dramatically low at United Memorial Medical Center in Houston, TX compared to other hospitals across the nation and the world. Despite Dr. Joseph Varon’s popularity on TV, news personalities avoid questions of why he’s having success treating his patients. As it turns out, he’s using drugs the WHO and CDC recommend against.

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Bioweapons.

Hillary Clinton Privately Warned France About Wuhan P4 Lab (HE)

In a leaked State Department cable from 2009, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that the Wuhan Institute of Virology could lead to “biological weapons proliferation concern.” The cable, obtained via Wikileaks, was sent from the State Department in June 2009 to all embassies in member nations ahead of the Australia Group plenary session in Paris, September 21-25, 2009. The Australia Group is an international export control forum organized to prevent the spread of technologies and research that could be used in chemical and biological weapons. All Five Eyes nations are members of the group, including the EU, India, Japan, and South Korea. China is not a member of the group.

The cable stated, “We believe it is important to focus on emerging chemical and biological technologies, trends in the trade of CBW-related goods and threats.” When it came to France, Secretary Clinton’s cable noted: “The U.S. believes participants would benefit from hearing about your experiences assisting China in setting up a Biosafety Level-4 (BSL-4) laboratory at the Wuhan Institute of Virology from the export control and intangible technology transfer perspectives. We are particularly interested to know how China plans to vet incoming foreign researchers from countries of biological weapons proliferation concern.”

More broadly on the question of China’s biological weapons program, Secretary Clinton’s cable noted: “The U.S. believes AG members would be interested in any information you can share related to China and North Korea, specifically information related to: • China’s Institutes of Biological Products (locations in Beijing and Wuhan), to include overhead imagery analysis, if possible. • Your perceptions of the CBW proliferation activities by Chinese entities. • Your perceptions of Chinese government efforts to enforce its export control rules.”

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Is the matriarch disoriented?

Elephants’ 500km-Trek Across China Baffles Scientists (BBC)

Elephants are by nature fiercely intelligent beasts and experts who study them day in day out already know a great deal about them. And yet a herd of endangered elephants in China has completely dumbfounded scientists globally, while captivating an entire nation in the process. It’s not unusual for elephants to move small distances. But this herd has been lumbering its way across China for more than a year now. The elephants have now strayed almost 500km (310 miles), a mammoth trek from their original habitat. It’s thought that they started their journey last spring from Xishuangbanna National Nature Reserve in the southwest of the country, near the border with Myanmar and Laos.

They began moving north and in the last few months, the elephants have popped up in a number of villages, towns and cities. They’ve been seen smashing down doors, raiding shops, “stealing” food, playing around in the mud, taking a bath in a canal and napping in the middle of a forest. They’ve also been spotted hoovering up crops in their wake and moseying into people’s houses – on one occasion, lining up in a courtyard to drink water, successfully turning on a tap with their trunks. It is thought they have started to move south again, and were last spotted in Shijie – a town near the city of Yuxi.

It’s unclear whether they are headed back, or why they even embarked on this journey in the first place – the farthest known movement by elephants in the country. Or what might come next. “The truth is, no-one knows. It is almost certainly related to the need for resources – food, water, shelter – and this would make sense given the fact that, in most locations where Asian elephants live in the wild, there is an increase in human disturbances leading to habitat fragmentation, loss and resource reduction,” Joshua Plotnik, assistant professor of elephant psychology at Hunter College, City University of New York, told the BBC.

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Treatment of Murray is scandalous too, but nothing like Assange. John McAfee’s death is worrisome in this regard.

High Court Delays as Assange Remains in Jail (Craig Murray)

Julian Assange remains in a maximum-security jail, despite never being sentenced for anything but a long ago served spell for bail-jumping, and despite the U.S. government’s request for extradition having been refused. It is approaching six months since I was in court to hear the decision rejecting Assange’s extradition, and it was in the same week that Magistrate Vanessa Baraitser ordered Assange be kept in jail pending a U.S. appeal. Since then, the U.S. has submitted its appeal, which is somewhat intemperate in its efforts to discredit a number of highly distinguished expert witnesses at the hearing. The defense has submitted its response, including notice of points, where Baraitser found for the U.S. that the defense intend to counter-appeal.

Then for over three months — nothing. The High Court has not only not set a date for the U.S. appeal, it has not even indicated if the U.S. appeal meets the bar to be heard. There is some thought that the appeal lacks any arguable points of law and may be simply rejected. But the seemingly leisurely approach of the High Court to look at the matter is entirely inappropriate given that, in the meantime, an innocent man is suffering the most extreme form of incarceration available in the U.K. Assange’s status is that his extradition has been rejected. He ought not to be in jail at all, let alone in such harsh conditions. By contrast, I am sitting in my study despite being sentenced to eight months in jail. I am at liberty while the U.K. Supreme Court decides whether to hear my appeal.

My lawyers believe, from their contact with the court administrators, that it is entirely possible that the Supreme Court will decide on whether to take my appeal, within the four-week suspension of my jail sentence granted by Judge Lady Dorrian. This is because otherwise I might be imprisoned. Why can the Supreme Court potentially decide whether to hear my appeal so quickly due to the threat of imprisonment, when the High Court is taking six times or more as long to decide whether to hear the U.S. appeal, when an innocent man is already imprisoned? It makes no sense. It is not due to complexity: while of course Julian’s case is more important, any points of law at issue in the U.S. appeal are notably less complex than in my own appeal. To me, the only possible explanation is the determination of the state to keep Julian imprisoned at all costs.

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  • #78182
    John Day
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    I dedicate at least part of the thought which went into this to the thought-provoking Dr.D.
    Also, Jenny is pictured in the Austin vegetable garden this morning.
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/06/distributed-solutions.html

    ​ Cheap energy and plentiful, easily recovered and refined​ mineral ores are the resources which allowed industrial economy to grow, while consuming them ever more rapidly, by consuming them to consume them at an accelerating pace. Whether the owners are lying about stuff is not a question. They always lie, but they lie unpredictably. The opposite of what they say is not “the truth”. To prove a lie and to take some form of the opposite as “truth” is a common logical flaw.
    ​For instance, we have been lied to as long as I can remember, and the oil crisis in the 1970s and early 1980s was made worse in America by holding oil tankers offshore, which raised prices and lowered supply. This was a sort of big test of what would happen and did let oil companies take windfall profits. We were lied to about part of what was happening. The 6 test wells drilled in Alaska under Jimmy Carter were capped, and what they found remains a secret to this day.

    There is a lot of Great Power interest in the Arctic. I suspect there is a lot of oil up there, but it is clearly NOTgoing to be pumped into the failing exponential-growth eating-machine​ that is neoliberal global financial capitalism. That is the stuff to burn in the new economy of declining resources, Carter’s ace-in-the-hole. We’ll burn all that other oil up first. Then we will have an advantageous position globally. We will fuel our military, factories, farmers, trains and trucks.
    “We” will…

    ​ ​I think the owner class is split, a horse divided against itself, which cannot stand, in the western oligarchy.
    Build Back Better World (now B3W) has the flaw of the gross inefficiency of keeping the same hierarchy that brought us neoliberalism, neocolonialism and nascent neofeudalism through technocracy controlling our thoughts and impulses. Right now it’s just smartphones-in-traffic, but soon it will be neural implants rewarding us directly for following that urgent though​t​ that just jumped to the front of the stack.

    ​ ​The easy problem to point out is inefficiency, though evil would do as well.
    Inefficiency is distant decisions for local problems, which need to be solved promptly.
    I need a bag of sheetrock screws to finish this work today.
    I’ll call Washington for instructions.

    ​ ​It has been pointed out in one of the articles here :
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/06/build-back-never.html
    that evil is completely parasitic and cannot contribute any positive solutions to a process.

    ​ ​One might argue that we are not owned/ruled by evil (how rude!) but by somewhat enlightened self-interests (nice Mr. Buffet, not kinky Mr. Bezos or Mr. Gates-behind-the-curtain). Inefficiency argument works for both. The somewhat creative owners have a solution, which is AI, directly connecting to the impulse and reward centers of our brains.

    ​ ​What could go wrong? Can you run a work crew this way?
    Never been tried. Might be some problems.
    Can the technology be sustained in resource decline?
    Theoretically, yes, right?
    Never been done, though. Looks like a stretch.
    Most people would say “NO” if you told ’em. How ya gonna’ pull it off?

    ​ ​Wouldn’t it be easier for people to work together in smaller groups on projects that benefit them directly, which is the strong point of our good-old species?
    Sure it would. (That was a rhetorical question.)
    Distributed human-computing with every decision ever made being part of the mass computation, is what brought us here. It is sustainable, even if massive swaths of computation go “poof”.

    ​ ​The problem for the elites, the owners, is that the most important thing of all, to them, is that they maintain control, no matter how inefficient or unlikely that may be, going into the new economy of declining resources and declining energy.
    They are the owners. They will use all of the powers (open and covert) of ownership to maintain their position astride the massive herd, even if the herd gets sicker and has to be culled repeatedly. The biggest problem for them right now is that the smarter ones can’t agree with each other or the more narcissistic ones about how to proceed, and they can’t even work out which group of owners to sneak-attack to move forward.
    Elite gridlock.

    ​​Now is our chance to grow some vegetables, get out of debt, be friends in the neighborhood and ride bikes. Whoo, Woo!

    #78183
    John Day
    Participant

    Jim Kunstler looks at something I think may become important.
    ​ ​Just now, we have news of the strange case, revealed last week, of a “top Chinese counter-intel official,” a vice-minister of State Security, name of Dong Jingwei, defecting to the USA back in February. The strange part is that he came in from the cold to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) because he did not trust the CIA or the FBI to be outside China’s influence, and Dong sought protection from them. More American institutional failure? This raises a whole bale of questions, including whether Dong is a double-reverse disinfo agent, or what? It is rumored that he is proffering even more sordid dirt on “Joe Biden’s” son, Hunter, than is already known from the memo-and-email cache lodged on his infamous laptop-from-hell — not just sexual escapades while in China, but details of big money deals made for the Biden family business. And not just that, but heaps more dirt on other prominent political figures paid off by China. As if the US government is not already in a bad odor with at least half the country’s citizens.
    ​ ​This Chinese spy tale is ripening at exactly the same time that the Maricopa County, AZ, election audit concludes phase one of its operations — scaring the panties off of the DNC and its PR staff at MSNBC, CNN, and the WashPo — with a lot of noises coming in from Georgia and Pennsylvania about likewise conducting vote audits. All that, plus Dong’s garbage barge of toxic political dirt, suggests that “Joe Biden” will have an even shorter run than Konstantin Chernenko did. We may find ourselves in an intense constitutional crisis by mid-summer. Hold that thought….
    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/thinking-out-loud/

    ​More: ​
    RedState’s sources confirmed that the defector is, in fact, Dong, that he was in charge of counterintelligence efforts in China, and that he flew to the United States in mid-February, allegedly to visit his daughter at a university in California. When Dong landed in California he contacted DIA officials and told them about his plans to defect and the information he’d brought with him. Dong then “hid in plain sight” for about two weeks before disappearing into DIA custody.
    According to Spy Talk, Dong’s name came up during the Sino-American Summit held in Alaska in March 2021:
    RedState’s sources say that Chinese officials did demand that the United States return Dong, but Blinken didn’t exactly refuse; at that time Blinken wasn’t aware that Dong was with the US government, the sources say, and told China that the US didn’t have Dong.
    It’s only in the last three to four weeks that anyone outside DIA knew about the defector, according to RedState’s sources. Prior to that time, DIA was vetting the information provided and confronting Langley officials with what they’d learned without divulging the source.
    ​ ​Experts quoted in the Spy Talk piece essentially say that the defection is just a rumor and that rumors happen all the time, but that if it’s true it’s a big deal but “not game-changing.” Based on conversations with sources familiar with the information Dong has already provided and its quantity and reliability, that’s simply not the case. Not only does Dong have detailed information about China’s special weapons systems, the Chinese military’s operation of the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the origins of SARS-CoV-2, and the Chinese government’s assets and sources within the United States; Dong has extremely embarrassing and damaging information about our intelligence community and government officials in the “terabytes of data” he’s provided to the DIA.
    https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2021/06/17/breaking-chinese-defector-confirmed-as-top-counterintelligence-official-n398374

    ​Cat sends this from Glenn Greenwald. She points out that about 400 people who filed into the Capital on 1/6/21, unarmed, seeking to be heard, not trying to overthrow anything, and still not charged yet, are being held unconstitutionally, mostly in solitary confinement (psychological torture, ya’know?)..​
    ​ ​What would be shocking and strange is not if the FBI had embedded informants and other infiltrators in the groups planning the January 6 Capitol riot. What would be shocking and strange — bizarre and inexplicable — is if the FBI did not have those groups under tight control. And yet the suggestion that FBI informants may have played some role in the planning of the January 6 riot was instantly depicted as something akin to, say, 9/11 truth theories or questions about the CIA’s role in JFK’s assassination or, until a few weeks ago, the COVID lab-leak theory: as something that, from the perspective of Respectable Serious Circles, only a barely-sane, tin-foil-hat-wearing lunatic would even entertain.
    ​ ​This reaction is particularly confounding given how often the FBI did exactly this during the first War on Terror, and how commonplace discussions of this tactic were in mainstream liberal circles.
    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/questions-about-the-fbis-role-in

    #78184
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    I’ve spoken about Covid vaccination with each of my 3 teens. I told them — I’m fine with vaccines, I got you all of the typical childhood vaccinations. (13yo daughter: “I *know* mom, the vaccination record is in my studentvue account. I’ve seen it, even though I don’t remember getting most of them.”). But I’m not okay with this vaccine. It hasn’t been adequately tested. There are a lot of terrible adverse reactions to it. And, besides, you are young and healthy, if you got Covid it wouldn’t be a big deal. You even quarantined with me when I had Covid and didn’t get sick — you may already be immune.

    My kids trust me. Ice cream and social expectations won’t get them to accept vaccination. And if their father tries it behind my back, the kids will object and let me know.

    Madamski: Meanwhile, now that the DNC/liberal zeitgeist have trashed themselves, we can look forward to a resumption of GOP/conservative stupidity also. Someone has to fill the void.

    I’ve been thinking the same.
    Partner and I flirted with the new AZ flavor of The People’s Party a few months back. Most of them were Bernie Buds who simply wanted to adopt Bernie’s platform rather than go to the trouble of building a platform from the ground up. Or they wanted to see what the national party was saying, and adopt the national platform. With some noted exceptions, it was a small leaderless mob, trying to find a leader, a strong man to align with. Most of them were frightened by the idea of going to the roots (the people)…it was stated as “too difficult” and “too long a process.” I think they were deceiving themselves. They really didn’t want to risk their pet ideas not being in the majority once the majority opinions were discovered. The second objective so many of them were promoting was of making a flashy difference on the national level — they wanted to make demands for Biden’s first 100 days in office. Partner and I shook our heads. Don’t care if some do that — I’m not going to dissuade them, *might* accomplish some good. But, seriously, nobody making decisions in the Biden admin cares one whit about the demands of the upstart AZ People’s Party. You want to make a difference?? DO something different. Create a political party that responds to the will and opinions of its members and that creates pressure to effect change on the local and state level — where you have a better chance of electing someone to office. The major political parties follow the bidding of their big donors, not the will of their members. If you want to be significant, BE different — do the hard work to find out what your members want, and champion that.

    #78185
    DarkMatter
    Participant

    They’re coming for our kids

    Why are they doing this? Some possibilities:

    1. Infertility of kids will reduce population more in the long term
    2. Vaccines cause long term health problems – They are priming the health care gravy train
    3. They care about us and our kids and it’s for everyone’s good
    4. They are raising the cognitive dissonance bar – Some one who had their kids vaxxed will never accept vaxxing as a mistake
    5. It’s just the money – The more doses the more profit
    6. Getting kids vaxxed will make them more willing to get perpetual mRNA shots

    Does anyone have the definitive answer?

    #78186
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    • More Than 2m Adults In England Have Had Long Covid For Over 12 Weeks (G.)

    Raúl is right: ‘Many healthy people also have “fatigue-related symptoms” due to lockdowns.’

    “Fatigue is one of the most common symptoms of depression. There can be physical effects (lack of energy), emotional effects (apathy), and cognitive effects (difficulty concentrating).” [quoted from a quick search result]

    Tiredness is one of the 29 symptoms that would indicate Long Covid in the study (if at least one of the 29 symptoms is experienced for 12 weeks or more). “Difficulty concentrating” sounds like the brain-fog mentioned in the study.

    There was no control group, almost like the study was designed to overestimate the prevalence of Long Covid. Especially since the researchers were obviously aware of this limitation: “However, as the study was based on self-reported data and because many of the symptoms are common and not specific to COVID-19, we may, as noted, have overestimated the prevalence of persistent symptoms.”

    The self-selected respondents to a large survey (less than 30% responded) may have tended to be those with more persistent symptoms, and as the researchers wrote in the paper, “it is plausible that people with persistent symptoms may have been more likely to participate in order to ascertain their antibody status [since a home antibody self-test was being offered to participants].”

    Looking at the tabular results for comorbidities, it’s interesting that the participants with a prior history of depression had “Long Covid” more frequently than the participants who had a prior history of diabetes, heart disease, hypertension, stroke, liver disease, cancer, asthma… Hmm.

    And gross household income had a big influence. For participants in a household with less than 15,000 income, 51% got Long Covid, compared to 32% of those with at least 50,000 income getting Long Covid.

    https://spiral.imperial.ac.uk/handle/10044/1/89844
    https://spiral.imperial.ac.uk/bitstream/10044/1/89844/2/REACT_long_covid_paper_FINAL.pdf

    #78187
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    @ John Day — I love the look of having the garden photo as the back drop for your website. I’m going to borrow that idea for one of my websites.

    It RAINED in Phoenix yesterday. Steady rain on and off for hours, not heavy, nor just a few drops. It was like a large sigh of relief, a break from temps over 110 degrees. I had a service call for a client about a half mile away, and watched the car’s thermometer of the outside temperature start at 78 and lower over the course of 30 minutes to 71 degrees. I turned off the air conditioning and rolled down the window, windshield wipers in use, steady raindrops could not diminish the delight of such balmy temperatures. It looks like we’ll be below 110 degrees for the next 10 days. Hopefully many of my garden plants will recover a bit. I’ve been watching leaves curl and dry on my tomato vine, as green, yellow, and orange-y tomatoes stay at their color, with no change, despite shade cloth on two sides and mesquite branches overhead for filtered sun much of the day.

    #78188
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Yes, 1/6 FBI. Sigh.

    Look they were infiltrating the Quakers after ’01. The Quakers! What did they think they were going to do, buy F-15s and strafe the White House? And the Dixie Chicks? Like wut?

    Like Soviet truth commissions, the FBI opened records on the old anti-war protests. Some FBI informants who went, looked into them and were surprised to find everybody else was an FBI informant too! They were like 10% of everyone, and the loudest, since they were protected if they got saucy and promoted violence.

    That was 50 years ago, before they really got funded. Did anyone think the federal government under Carter was too small? Too efficient? So you can only IMAGINE, like Greenwald, what goes on today. It would be a complete, unasked-for miracle if they WEREN’T the organizers, funders, and informants, including ALL the leaders, as we recently proved both head of the Proud Boys and multi-millionaire head of BLM are, “Trained Marxists”. Doing what they’re told.

    Well, it IS the road to riches, that I’ll give you. Those 5 houses don’t buy themselves. Power to the People!(who work for the FBI)

    Yet after 50 years non-stop , they STILL say “Pull my finger” “honest injin'” and fall for it. Read a book.

    Nobody posted it, so Caitlin Johnstone wrote on this yesterday. https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2021/06/22/so-much-of-what-the-cia-used-to-do-covertly-it-now-does-overtly/

    What she’s describing has been called diabolical narcissism, where the person has purged love from their psychology, but which leads to a list of fully predictable bad patterns. Abusing, lying, yes, but they must have the victim KNOW that they’re being abused, demonstrate POWER to others. Like the Gymnast abuser had to rape his girls with the parents right outside, then get the girl to say nothing. Voluntarily. Pointlessly. Power at the core is the real thrill. Obedience. The reason for Power is Power.

    Here’s the good side: because they’re all the same, and all cookie-cutter morons, they all have the exact same DIS-advantages. That is, they HAVE to advertise. They HAVE to tell you. They can’t help it. They have to go too far. Like Fauci, they can never shut up. Because the core principle is POWER, truth means nothing so they reverse themselves regularly, tell lies that are unnecessary, and jump at any opportunity to grind you like an addicted bonobo monkey.

    So what do you do? Clearly telling people they’re violent, raping, stealing, murdering maniacs doesn’t work: we’ve tried that. So new plan: dangle bait to have them lie, oppress, savage, and grind people, total innocents, sort of like mannequins they can tear apart without actually harming them…or not that much anyway. Like a dog suit for K9. Then the people see their real nature and have savage, thoughtless, and unhinged they are.

    At first, the people think — well they had it coming, those dummies, Rose McGowan, Donald Trump. They are narcissists after all, creating that is how they operate. They’re trained well from birth, don’t want to be on the receiving end of the abuser’s wrath. After a while though, the mask, the shine wears off. One by one they reach a point where they say, “Hey, I’ve got a black eye every night this year. I may be a bad wife, but surely not THAT bad.”

    So we have the NEW plan, the Trump plan — or rather the Military Intel Plan — running for the last many years. It has been slow just as Johnstone says. The abused do not want to wake up. But eventually, painfully, some majority now have. Not everyone, but maybe even enough.

    The police can’t come unless you are ready. They’re not going to arrest him until you press charges. What would be the point? They’re waiting for YOU. You have to show you want this, YOU have to realize, to change inside, to act.

    So Johnstone’s article that we’re overcoming a lifetime of CIA abuse says a lot, really. And as may be happening, shaking off the new abuse from Covid far faster than ever, although way too slow for me.

    #78194
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    • Israel Urges Parents To Vaccinate Kids Ages 12-15 (JPost)

    In an article I read yesterday (can’t find it at the moment), a spokesperson in Israel said that they have a large number of vaccine doses on hand that are near their expiration date, and they are now encouraging children to get their first dose by June 29, so these doses can be used.

    Article from today, about the vaccines doses rejected by the Palestinian Authority (PA):

    Health chief: Same vaccines rejected by PA being given to our kids ‘right now’
    Palestinians sent back 90,000 vaccines expiring at end of June, saying they were not okay, but Israel using doses with same expiration date to vaccinate children aged 12-15

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/health-chief-same-vaccines-rejected-by-pa-being-given-to-our-kids-right-now/

    #78195
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    How we got to 1/6 from a President that just yesterday suggested he would consider NUKING his own population is beyond me. What’s a few million deaths from jabs to them in light of this?

    Almost seems like part of the plan, if I were really whacko. /s

    #78196
    Bill7
    Participant

    a.g. said: “..This would explain the zeal to get every last man woman child vaccinated. No need to worry about a cover up when we’re all in it “together.” What’s to cover when we are all complicit in one way or another.”

    I think you have that right, a.g. No control group, or one so deeply marginalized as to be invisible. Another angle- perhaps unspoken but likely meant: “look what we do to those who don’t comply..” said with a smile by the Trusty class, of course.

    #78198
    Mr. House
    Participant
    #78200
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Israel’s prime minister gave a deadline for people (especially children) to get vaccinated. He says they don’t have vaccines available for anyone who doesn’t get their first dose by July 9.

    Prime Minister Naftali Bennett warned that Israel’s vaccine stock would soon expire… The prime minister called for all children from age 12 to be vaccinated as soon as possible…”Most of the vaccines we hold will expire by the end of July, and so it is necessary to receive the first dose by July 9. For anyone who is not vaccinated by then, we don’t have vaccines for later. At the moment we have stocks. The rate of vaccination is not good, just 2,000 daily. I call on parents: Go out immediately and have your children vaccinated.

    https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-dont-travel-abroad-bennett-tells-israelis-1001375553

    Meanwhile, those vaccines aren’t working as well as hoped against the new variants.

    Government admits that half of new Covid-19 cases in last month were fully vaccinated
    Despite data, government is launching expanded campaign to vaccinate everyone over 12.

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/308653

    #78201
    zerosum
    Participant

    Evidence does not sway them.

    Biden – ” If you think you need weapons to take on the govt, you need F-15s & maybe some nuclear weapons.”

    Party That Also Believes Government Was Almost Toppled By Unarmed Mob On January 6

    the government was almost overthrown by a bunch of unarmed dudes led by a viking hat

    Its a war.

    Capital police had the guns
    Capital Police were the only ones using guns.
    Capital police fire and killed an unharmed female veteran for trespassing.

    #78202
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    https://www.rt.com/russia/527459-naryshkin-mcis-america-totalitarian-dictatorship/

    The Russians see it. When will the people living in the west realize it.

    #78204
    Bill7
    Participant

    > The Russians see it. When will the people living in the west realize it. <

    Yeah, that was a good piece. I think a substantial number are paid to not see,
    and also to dissemble at the rest of us.

    “First slowly, then faster.” or something like that

    #78206
    Germ
    Participant

    @ scraplet:

    I’m in the UK.

    Yes – I have purchased Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, Doxycycline, Azithromycin, Budesonide inhalers, Dexamethasone and Fluvoxamine from Kachhela Pharmacy in India.

    Have placed orders on four occasions. Always arrived.

    Email Anil Gangwani : kmpl1015@gmail.com

    I’ve paid him in rupees using Revolut

    #78207
    oxymoron
    Participant

    John Day “I need a bag of sheetrock screws to finish this work today.
    I’ll call Washington for instructions.”

    I think of this tainter thing a bit too and often hope for steam to run out of this technosphere

    #78209
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Oxy (Let’s Save Lives): “at the end of the day ALL fear is related to bodies and bodily attacks which is why our saints preserve us – they see through that. I have found this rolling totalitarian thunder frightening at times, as it threatens my optimism for humanity. We need to find comfort in the now. The peace of being still …” There isn’t a thing I could add to this thoughtful comment. Thank you again, Oxy.

    Mr House: “You might be surprised to hear this woman speak and find that she is articulate. She is not screechy or huffy … She went semi-viral a couple of weeks ago after audio emerged of her giving a talk at Yale in which she detailed her violent fantasies against white people ” Na, they aren’t going to win this because there is no “there” there. Racism is racism. There isn’t a “reverse” of racism. It just is. If they keep pushing as hard as they’re pushing now, there will be a backlash. It won’t be pretty. I’m coming down on the side of Madamski on this one.

    January 6th was a circus. No one with half a brain believes it. Anyone still paying attention is just seeking social media followers, clicks, and mo’ money (however that works, I don’t do social media). I feel sorry for the people being held in jail. Also for the woman shot by the police. Attorneys need to step up and do some pro bono work and get this circus dealt with, pull the tent down, load the trucks up, get it out of town.

    Dr D earned the bright spot today: “Here’s the good side: because they’re all the same, and all cookie-cutter morons, they all have the exact same DIS-advantages.” Thank you. Needed to be reminded of that.

    #78210
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    John Day: “I need a bag of sheetrock screws to finish this work today.
    I’ll call Washington for instructions.”

    oxy: “I think of this tainter thing a bit too and often hope for steam to run out of this technosphere”

    Many thanks to both of you. Needed a laugh. 🙂

    #78212
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    phoenixvoice: “I’ve spoken about Covid vaccination with each of my 3 teens… My kids trust me.”

    That’s probably the best news I’ve read today.

    On the other hand, I saw some CDC data for “Age Groups of People Fully Vaccinated” which shows that in the US, 96,957 children under age 12 are now fully vaccinated for Covid-19, plus another 59,238 kids (under 12) got the second shot less than 14 days ago. This is despite the fact that the FDA hasn’t authorized the vaccines for anyone under age 12 (Pfizer) or age 18 (Moderna and J&J).

    https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographic

    #78213
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Doc Robinson, that stat on kids under 12 is disturbing. I’m so tired at this point I’m thinking Darwin. idk. 🙁

    #78215
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Right now – my biggest task is to get my bearings. I feel like I’m on a wildly rocking ship headed to a strange land.
    The emotional stuff is what I have to sit with. I had a friend call me an anti-vaxer again today. Close friend. Feels weird.
    There is this crazy balancing act of trying to get people to ask questions and stay open (coz science changes) and also protecting yourself from feeling too judged. I guess I may have to get used to cautious conversations and perhaps just being the asshole for a while.

    #78217
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    upstateNYer: “that stat on kids under 12 is disturbing”

    Yes, it’s saddening. Reminds me of the saying, “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.” But in this case, instead of “good intentions” it looks more like “overblown fears.”

    #78218
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Covid was a religion from the beginning and will continue to be, the new bible thumpers, and these people can not be reasoned with. Evidence does not sway them.

    Assuming that this Covid-religion is primarily a PMC thing, I think these people to whom you refer believe in it in a very 1984-ish kind of way. Ever since Trump’s 2016 victory, the writing has been on the wall for the cultural and political dominance of the PMC. They latched onto Covidian authoritarianism because they think all the power-trips and head-trips contained within it will keep the PMC in power. They have to believe it. Everything that justifies their mindset and their way of life now depends on it.

    #78220
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Oxy, once you’ve got your bearings can you please toss your compass over toward NY, specifically central NY, and make sure you put my name on it? My compass isn’t working well, need a new one.

    #78221
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Doc Rob: ” “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.” But in this case, instead of “good intentions” it looks more like “overblown fears.”

    Good intentions. Overblown fears. Is there a difference? What caused the burning of witches? Good intentions to rid the community of satan? Overblown fears of satan?

    #78222
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    What if … in early 2020 we were told one “scary story” (covid!!!!) to get us all moving in one direction and now, in early 2021, we’re being told another “scary story” (vaccine!!!) to get us all moving in another direction? And … what would the “why” of that “what if” be?

    I’m channeling Dr D. tonight. 😉 Seems I’ve caught a glimpse of deja vu. The Matrix.

    #78223
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Maybe we swallowed the “purple pill” and we aren’t quite ready to reach for the red pill just yet.

    #78224
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Regarding the parenting of children, I think that overblown fears can warp the good intentions, such that a line is crossed, into the territory of harmful (irrational, even) actions. (I’m mixing the metaphors tonight.)

    Regarding the “covid!!!” and “vaccine!!!” scary stories, I’m resisting the push to move in any direction (other than the one already determined by me), if it doesn’t ring true to me.

    #78228
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    upstateNYer
    What if … in early 2020 we were told one “scary story” (covid!!!!) to get us all moving in one direction and now, in early 2021, we’re being told another “scary story” (vaccine!!!) to get us all moving in another direction? And … what would the “why” of that “what if” be?

    You and I have been told scary stories since just after WWII: There has always been a boogey man…
    Think about that, it’s important to clearly see history as it is, not through the lens of a particular government apparatchik…(communism, nuclear war, the domino effect, and on and on and on…
    Todays world, particularly in the west, is falling apart because those government apparatchik’s have lost the narrative over the last 70 years or so.
    What I see as the most dangerous period is now, because of the fragmentation across all political spectrums in the west…
    Russia and China see it clearly and they are rightfully scared to death of what the west will do to try and delay the inevitable…
    They’re (the U.S.) usual response is war…it would likely be the last act before it’s total destruction…

    #78238
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @ V Arnold, agreed, we have been told one scary story after another for decades. I was thinking about that quite a bit last night after posting that comment. The list of scary stories is nearly endless, when you start counting them – right down to the local level here in the US where we have “active shooter” trainings that are inflicted on our children. (Although I do vaguely recall nuclear bomb “drills” while in elementary school so that’s nothing new). Mostly I haven’t bought into to the scary stories at all (the patriot act, the weapons of mass destruction, SARS, etc.).

    And just to be clear, I wasn’t suggesting the coronavirus and vaccine issues are not genuinely harming and killing people – they are. I’m also not suggesting we shouldn’t share information to at least try to keep up with what is going on. I’ve just been struck lately with intense deja vu because a year ago it was pandemic, now it’s vaccine. Maybe it’s the speed at which the shift in the latest scary story is taking place that is disturbing? Or maybe the fact the scary story is global this time is what’s making it feel more threatening? Or perhaps you’re right … “Todays world, particularly in the west, is falling apart …” and there is little we can do but try to get out of the way.

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