Jul 202021
 


Édouard Vuillard In bed 1891

 

60% Of People Admitted To Hospital With Covid Have Been Double-Jabbed (Sky)
Hospitalisation Data Not A Reason To Doubt The Vaccine (Moore)
Gottlieb Predicts ‘Most’ Unvaccinated Americans Will Get Delta Variant (HuPo)
The Flag Is In Tatters (Denninger)
Antibodies From Covid Infection Last At Least Nine Months (F.)
45K Death Count From Covid Shot Lawsuit (Renz Law)
Viral Diversity and the Pandemic Response (McCullough)
On ‘Freedom Day’, Boris Johnson Announces Mandatory Vaccine Passports (SN)
The Counter-truths Unspin (Kunstler)
Vax Wars are Global – Gerald Celente (USAW)
UK Government Advisor Admits Masks Are Just “Comfort Blankets” (SN)
AG Garland Bars Prosecutors From Seizing Reporters’ Records (AP)
The Shadow State: Corporations As Surrogates For Government Action (Turley)
The True Cost of Food (Rockefeller)

 

 

 

 

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He since “corrected” it to 40%.

My notes yesterday when I was reading this:

• UK: official numbers: 68% of adults are double jabbed (87% single jabbed)
• 60% of new hospitalizations are double jabbed (or 40%, if you will)
• winter high was 60K infections daily, now 50K
• but the vaccines are very very effective. in fact, they are over 90% effective.
• this does not make sense.

60% Of People Admitted To Hospital With Covid Have Been Double-Jabbed (Sky)

Sixty percent of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 have had two doses of a coronavirus vaccine, according to the government’s chief scientific adviser. Speaking at a Downing Street news briefing, Sir Patrick Vallance said: “In terms of the number of people in hospital who’ve been double-vaccinated, we know it’s around 60% of the people being admitted to hospital with COVID. “We do expect there to be over 1,000 people per day being hospitalised with coronavirus because of the increase in infections. “But the rates should be lower than they have been previously because of the protective effects of vaccination.” He said this was not surprising “because the vaccines are not 100% effective”.

“They’re very, very effective, but not 100%, and as a higher proportion of the population is double-vaccinated, it’s inevitable that those 10% of that very large number remain at risk, and therefore will be amongst the people who both catch the infection and end up in hospital.” Meanwhile, most regions of England now have more coronavirus patients in hospital than at any point since mid-March. Two regions – south-west England and the combined area of north-east England and Yorkshire – are back to levels last seen more than four months ago. For England as a whole, there are now 3,813 patients in hospital with COVID-19 – the highest number since 24 March. Sir Patrick also warned said there were “high levels of COVID and they are increasing”.

He said the UK was quite close to the previous “winter wave” of infections. “In the winter wave, we were up to around 60,000 people testing positive per day,” he said. “We are now somewhere on towards 50,000. So we’re quite close to the size of the winter wave of infections and this is going to increase.” He said the timing of the next peak of the virus would be “uncertain”. He said: “But most of the models are suggesting that there should be a peak and start seeing some sort of either plateau or decrease over August.

“And at that point, if things continue to increase at the rate they are – and as I said at the outset, there is something like 50,000 or near 50,000 cases per day, or positives per day, at the moment being detected – with a doubling time of 11 days, you can see that that gets to pretty high numbers very quickly. “And another doubling time will take you to even higher numbers, of course – that would be really quite, quite worrying. So we would like to see some flattening of this, some decrease in the trajectory, and ideally, as you rightly say, you’d like to see this coming down by September, as return of schools would add another pressure on top of that.”

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This is an analysis that goes with the article above.

Hospitalisation Data Not A Reason To Doubt The Vaccine (Moore)

The majority of people in hospital with COVID right now have been fully vaccinated. That will be a surprise to many people, despite the reassurance of the chief scientist Sir Patrick Vallance that it’s to be expected. But he’s right. Firstly, two doses of the Pfizer jab are 96% effective at preventing hospitalisation. For the AstraZeneca shot the figure is 92%. So while the protection is high, it’s not 100%. Secondly, the older you are the more likely it is that you will end up seriously ill if you get COVID. So if the virus does break through the protective barrier of the vaccine you are still more likely to end up in hospital if you are over 50.


It’s not a reason to doubt the vaccine. But it is a reason for everyone to get the jab and reduce levels of the virus spreading through the community. That would mean there’s less risk to double-vaccinated, older people. The good news is that the death rate is still much lower than in previous waves – about one in 1000 infections leads to death now, compared to around one in 50 in January. That’s partly down to the vaccine, but also better drug treatment for those in hospital. So even if double-vaccinated people are still ending up in hospital, they stand a much better chance of survival.

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And so will most vaccinated. But he doesn’t add that.

Gottlieb Predicts ‘Most’ Unvaccinated Americans Will Get Delta Variant (HuPo)

The former commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration predicted Sunday that “most” unvaccinated Americans who haven’t already had COVID-19 will contract the delta variant — and it will be the “most serious” virus of their lives. “This virus is so contagious, this variant is so contagious … that most people will either get vaccinated or have been previously infected or they will get this delta variant,” Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned in an interview on “Face the Nation” on CBS. “And for most people who get this delta variant, it’s going to be the most serious virus that they get in their lifetime in terms of the risk of putting them in the hospital,” he added.

Gottlieb, who served under former President Donald Trump before the pandemic, spoke as cases of the disease were climbing across America, with the seven-day average of reported coronavirus cases soaring nearly 70% last week. All 50 states are experiencing a higher number of new cases. Among the hardest hit are states with low vaccination rates, such as Arkansas, Missouri and Florida. The Sunshine state last week accounted for 20% of all new cases in the country. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky called the new surge a “pandemic of the unvaccinated.”

Gottlieb said he believes actual cases of the more-easily transmissible delta variant are underreported. He estimated that health officials know about only one out of 10 or 20 cases because some of those infected have mild cases and testing is not widespread. “We’re not doing a lot of routine screening right now,” said Gottlieb, who currently serves on the board of vaccine-maker Pfizer. “Unless you work for the New York Yankees, you’re not getting tested on a regular basis. So I think that this delta wave could be far more advanced than what we’re detecting right now.”

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“The data from Israel says natural infection is 6-7x as effective in preventing a future infection as the jab.”

these vaccines are not sterilizing, which means every vaccinated person is a viral mutation factory”

The Flag Is In Tatters (Denninger)

Let’s not kid ourselves. If the media and “public health” people are telling the truth about Delta being as transmissible as claimed there is no way to reach a vaccination level that will suppress it. There are actually people claiming it has an R0 equal or even greater than measles. This is probably a lie, but the problem with lies such as this is that they preclude solutions you then put forward as you’ll never get there. In short we have what I pointed out originally: You either had Covid now or will get it, like it or not. It is as certain as winter. Further, if Delta arose it won’t be the last one. Worse, we now know, conclusively that these vaccines are not sterilizing, which means every vaccinated person is a viral mutation factory and won’t know they have it in many cases. We also know it does not block transmission, as was just demonstrated on the HMS Queen Elizabeth and in the Texas Delegation.

You cannot out-vaccinate a mutating virus; the reason is quite simple as the virus passes through people and mutates faster than you can modify vaccination formulas. I warned early on that the use of non-sterilizing vaccines was known dangerous back when IPV came out for Polio and is why Sabin’s OPV formula, which is sterilizing, was universally used in conjunction with IPV in the US until polio was no longer circulating here. In fact we kept using OPV in the United States for another 20 years after the nation was declared polio-free. Why? Because not doing so — using non-sterilizing IPV alone when polio was still circulating in the population — was damned dangerous as it placed evolutionary pressure on the virus that could cause more disease rather than less and we knew it.

There are no sterilizing Covid-19 vaccines and no evidence we can develop one. The manufacturers admitted their trials were not intended to prove that originally but now we have the data and zero of the shots produce sterilizing immunity. That’s scientific fact at this point. In short we have no choice but to drop the bull**** and accept that we have to live with Covid-19. It will never go away. It has become an endemic virus like the cold or flu viruses and will be with us forever. In addition eradication was always doomed to fail because it has animal reservoirs, specifically at least cats and ferrets. We have no choice in this matter.

Within a very short period of time if Delta is what they claim in terms of infectivity you’re going to see a dramatic shift here as we have in Britain and Israel. The data from Israel says natural infection is 6-7x as effective in preventing a future infection as the jab. The virus will shortly run out of non-jabbed people to infect and the vax-vs-nonvax numbers showing up in the ER will shift dramatically. The bad news is that those who got a “hidden” adverse effect, especially thrombosis of any sort, are at a very high risk of getting monkey-hammered if and when their immunity fails and they get infected anyway because that pre-existing damage will be synergistic with the virus effects.

Lockdowns, masks and mass-jabs will not solve the problem and in fact will make it worse due to the adverse effects. For the healthy 18 year old who is screwed by cardiomylitis what do you tell him or her? They were at an effective zero risk of death in the first place; the number harmed by the shots in that cohort exceeds the number saved. Jabbing such people is an unconscionable evil, and this presumes the risks are confined to what we know which is almost certainly not the case, and that evasion by the virus never occurs, which is ridiculously improbable. Good luck folks.

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180º lie: “..immunity from infection [..] is typically weaker than that provided by vaccination.”

Why would anyone want to spin such lies? What’s to gain?

Antibodies From Covid Infection Last At Least Nine Months (F.)

Almost all people who have recovered from Covid-19 have detectable levels of antibodies nine months later, according to a new study of almost the entire population of an Italian town, bolstering earlier research that suggests a prior infection conveys some protection against the coronavirus. Over a span of nine months, researchers from Italy’s University of Padua and Imperial College London tested more than 85% of the 3,000 residents of Vo, Italy, for Covid-19 antibodies. The researchers, writing in Nature Communications, found that 98.8% of people infected in the first wave—around February/March 2020—still showed detectable levels of antibodies nine months on when tested in November.

There was no difference between people who had symptomatic and asymptomatic illness, the study found. Lead author Dr. Ilaria Dorigatti said this suggests that “the strength of the immune response does not depend on the symptoms and the severity of the infection.” For some people, antibody levels actually increased between testing, indicating a boost to the immune system from another infection with the virus. The possibility of further infection could mean that people with antibodies—whether by infection or vaccination—are capable of transmitting the virus even if they are protected from disease, the researchers warned.

Understanding how long immunity to Covid-19 lasts is crucial to public health officials trying to manage the pandemic. While antibodies indicate an immune response, they do not provide a complete picture of the immune system and cannot tell us how robust immunity is. Though some evidence suggests immunity from infection might be long lasting, it may not be strong enough to protect against disease and is typically weaker than that provided by vaccination.

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Wasn’t sure what to make of the video I posted yesterday, but it’s a real lawsuit of 67 pages which alleges that VAERS undercounts vaccine deaths by a factor of 5.

45K Death Count From Covid Shot Lawsuit (Renz Law)



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“..mass vaccination when it hits >25% of the population, begins to promote latent variants to become predominant ..”

Viral Diversity and the Pandemic Response (McCullough)

There are multiple reports that fully vaccinated groups in the hubris of their newly gained freedoms are coming down with COVID-19, this time with the Delta variant. This mutant strain was born in India in response to evolutionary pressure that promoted a base pair changes from the original alpha variant out of the UK. The HMS Queen Elizabeth reported an outbreak of 100 COVID-19 cases among 3700 fully vaccinated, socially distanced, and masked sailers. Many were detected by unnecessary asymptomatic testing which is not approved by regulatory authorities and not sanctioned by the WHO. The lessons prove that the military should reserve testing for only sick sailors and not put any stock on the vaccines as they clearly have failed.

Fortunately, Delta is mild and very manageable if treated early at home in high-risk individuals or those presenting with severe symptoms. Why did the vaccines fail so quickly? >. First, the genetic vaccines are all coded to the original Wuhan wild-type spike protein. That strain has been extinct for months now. >. Second, mass vaccination when it hits >25% of the population, begins to promote latent variants to become predominant and the overall flora of mutant strains to become less diverse. For example, about six months ago in the US, we had about 14 strains according to the CDC. Now we have only about six strains, with the rising Delta expected to become super dominant. Since Pfizer, Moderna, and JNJ provide no coverage for Delta, we can surely expect more cases but the public may be blinded to reality.

This spring after the CDC was overloaded with >10,000 vaccine failure cases with full-blown COVID-19 after being completely vaccinated, the CDC notified Americans it was only going to track and report COVID-19 in the unvaccinated. This was a giant blunder since there is a great need to study why the vaccines are failing in order to plan for boosters or better technological vaccines.

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He wants his cake and eat it and order seconds.

On ‘Freedom Day’, Boris Johnson Announces Mandatory Vaccine Passports (SN)

On the occasion labeled ‘freedom day’, the UK government announced that vaccine passports would be mandatory to enter “crowded venues” from the end of September. Gee, I feel so free! After initially denying that domestic, vaccine passports would ever be introduced, Boris Johnson’s government feverishly set about creating the framework for them. Now on the very day that all coronavirus restrictions were supposed to be lifted, the UK’s vaccines minister has announced what basically amounts to medical apartheid. “By the end of September everyone aged 18 and over will have the chance to receive full vaccination and the additional two weeks for that protection to really take hold,” said Nadhim Zahawi. “So at that point we plan to make full vaccination a condition of entry to nightclubs and other venues where large crowds gather.”

From the end of September, people will also have the option of providing a negative test result to enter such venues removed, making the vaccine de facto mandatory. Boris Jonhson also refused to rule out future vaccine passports for pubs and bars, saying the government the government “reserved the right to do what’s necessary to protect the public.” “I would remind everybody that some of life’s most important pleasures and opportunities are likely to be increasingly dependent on vaccination,” said Johnson, openly threatening those who don’t get jabbed that their lifestyle will be severely stunted. The measures are being introduced to bully the 35% of 18 to 30-year-olds who haven’t taken the jab into getting it.

Once domestic vaccine passports have become commonplace for travel and to enter crowded venues, expect them to be extended to every other area of life. This will create a two tier society where those who for whatever reason refuse to have the vaccine will remain under de facto lockdown indefinitely.

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“Back in the day, LSD trips were mostly a matter of personal choice.”

The Counter-truths Unspin (Kunstler)

Back in the day, LSD trips were mostly a matter of personal choice. Today, though, all you have to do is wake up somewhere between Montauk and the Farallon Islands and your senses are overwhelmed with hallucinations. The public used to depend on newspapers and TV networks to suss out reality, but that filter is long gone, replaced by a relentless “narrative” machine, and all it does is spin out one technicolor whopper after another. The trouble is: narrative is not the truth. Generally, it’s the opposite of the truth. It’s manufactured counter-truth. The more narrative you spin, the faster you must spin off new supporting narrative to conceal the untruth of your previous narrative — until the national hive mind is lit up in unreality where nothing makes sense and the very language that separates humanity from the rough beasts becomes a social poison.

And is “Joe Biden” not the perfect gibbering epitome of this mess, a ghost in the narrative machine, beckoning us into chaos? America is on a bad trip. The country has lost its way psychologically. Two things will be required to bring it out of the fugue state it tripped into five years ago: some significant shocks to the system and the passage of time. Those shocks are in the offing and the “Joe Biden” regime — meaning Barack Obama and his wing-people who run things — are looking more and more desperate as auguries manifest.

Their current tactical hustle is to amp up paranoia over the receding Covid-19 episode. It looks like an attempt to smokescreen the emerging evidence of massive and widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election, and the growing eagerness of a few other states besides Arizona to mount audits of what went on last November 3rd. The supposed surge in new Covid cases is really just a tiny blip, considering it comes off a baseline of close to zero cases in many places. 11,140 so far have died from Covid vaccinations, according to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Last week 2,092 deaths from vaccinations were added versus 1,918 deaths from the virus. Countries with the highest vaccination rates are showing the most new Covid cases.

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“There are going to be new parties: anti-vax, anti-establishment, anti-tax and anti-immigration. The parties that unite under that will be the winning parties.”

Vax Wars are Global – Gerald Celente (USAW)

Celente says the pressure will continue to be pushed and coerced upon the so-called “unvaccinated” even though it is, in fact, an experimental human drug trial. No one will mention the fact that half the country already has natural immunity, according to Dr. Marty Makary at Johns Hopkins University. With death and injuries from fully vaccinated people going higher by the thousands every week, there are no facts that will sway the pro-vax crowd. Celente says, “The facts don’t count. If you show the facts, it’s misinformation if you put out facts. It’s a conspiracy theory when you put out facts, and in the United Soviet States of America, you are not allowed to put facts on any social media because they will ban you. You are not allowed to say anything to disagree with the government or the (so-called) ‘health experts.’”


Celente sees a huge trend in politics emerging and explains, “There are going to be new parties: anti-vax, anti-establishment, anti-tax and anti-immigration. The parties that unite under that will be the winning parties. They have to unite under that.” Celente says, “The whole damn system is corrupt.” Celente does not have high hopes for the election fraud being uncovered to actually do anything because the system is so corrupt. Celente also talks about the U.S. economy and that it should have tanked long ago, and the powers keep propping it up. He also comments on gold, silver, Bitcoin and why New York City and many other cities are not coming back. Celente says people will have to “unite to protect liberty and freedom,” and predicts it’s going to be a long fight.

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Too late to dispel the myth now.

UK Government Advisor Admits Masks Are Just “Comfort Blankets” (SN)

Dr Colin Axon, a SAGE advisor for the government told the London Telegraph that medics have given people a “cartoonish” view of how how microscopic viruses travel through the air, and the masks have gaps in them that are up to 5000 times bigger than Covid particles. “The small sizes are not easily understood but an imperfect analogy would be to imagine marbles fired at builders’ scaffolding, some might hit a pole and rebound, but obviously most will fly through,” Axon said. “Once a particle is not on a biological surface it is no longer a biomedical issue, it is simply about physics. The public has only a partial view of the story if information only comes from one type of source,” Axon continued, adding “Medics have some of the answers but not a whole view.”

Noting that the “mask debate is about the particle journey,” Axon explained that “Masks can catch droplets and sputum from a cough but what is important is that SARS CoV-2 is predominantly distributed by tiny aerosols.” “A Covid viral particle is around 100 nanometres, material gaps in blue surgical masks are up to 1,000 times that size, cloth mask gaps can be 500,000 times the size,” Axon urged. The professor noted that “those aerosols escape masks and will render the mask ineffective,” adding “The public were demanding something must be done, they got masks, it is just a comfort blanket. But now it is entrenched, and we are entrenching bad behaviour.”

“All around the world you can look at mask mandates and superimpose on infection rates, you cannot see that mask mandates made any effect whatsoever,” Axon further noted, adding that “The best thing you can say about any mask is that any positive effect they do have is too small to be measured.” Axon’s comments echo those of Dr. Anthony Fauci, who wrote in February 2020 that a typical store-bought face mask “is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through material.” Fauci later reversed his position after the CDC began recommending that Americans wear face coverings. Similar recommendations were then made worldwide, with World Health Organisation officials even recommending that masks remain INDEFINTELY.

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Assange.

AG Garland Bars Prosecutors From Seizing Reporters’ Records (AP)

Attorney General Merrick Garland on Monday formally prohibited federal prosecutors from seizing the records of journalists in leak investigations, with limited exceptions, reversing years of department policy. The new policy largely codifies the commitment Garland made in June, when he said the Justice Department would abandon the practice of seizing reporters’ records in leak investigations. It aims to resolve a politically thorny issue that has long vexed Justice Department prosecutors trying to weigh the media’s First Amendment rights against government’s desire to protect classified information. But the memo makes clear that federal prosecutors can, in some cases, seize journalists’ records, including if the reporters are suspected of working for agents of a foreign power or terrorist organizations. There is also an exception for situations with imminent risks, like kidnappings or crimes against children.


Garland was moved to act following an outcry over revelations that the department during the Trump administration had obtained records belonging to journalists at The Washington Post, CNN and The New York Times as part of investigations into who had disclosed government secrets related to the Russia investigation and other national security matters. Others whose records were obtained were members of Congress and their staffers and former White House counsel Don McGahn. Garland’s announcement came after President Joe Biden said he would not allow the Justice Department to seize journalists’ phone records and emails, calling the practice “wrong.” Since then, Garland and other senior Justice Department staffers have met with representatives of news media organizations, with both sides agreeing on the need for new department policies. Garland has also said he would support federal legislation to add additional protections for journalists.

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It’s not just Big Tech.

The Shadow State: Corporations As Surrogates For Government Action (Turley)

This use of corporations is born out of political and legal convenience. Despite the rising call for mandatory vaccinations, the Biden administration clearly is not willing to face the political costs of a government mandate. As of July 11, 159,266,536 Americans were fully vaccinated — 48 percent of the country’s population. When you consider the extremely high rate of vaccination for those over 65 (an estimated 85 percent), the percentage of adults under 65 is even smaller. That is a lot of voters who would not take well to a government mandate before the 2022 election.

[..] The political convenience of relying on corporate controls is most evident in the support for a massive system of corporate-based speech controls now implanted in the United States. The government cannot implement a censorship system under the Constitution — but it can outsource censorship functions to private companies like Facebook and Twitter. Just this week, the White House admitted it has been flagging “misinformation” for Facebook to censor. At the same time, Democrats like Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) have demanded that Big Tech companies commit to even more “robust content modification” — an Orwellian term for censorship. Liberal writers and media figures have called for corporate censorship despite the danger of an effective state media run through private corporations.

[..] Social media companies are not just any businesses, however. They were created as neutral platforms for communication between people when they were given special immunity from lawsuits. Yet these corporations now control an enormous amount of public discourse and have become a rising threat to the democratic process, expanding their authority to frame the debate on issues ranging from climate change to gender identity, from election fraud to public health. You must espouse the “truth” as established by these companies on certain questions or risk being banned as “misinformation spreaders.” Indeed, Psaki this week insisted that once people are banned by one company, they should be banned from all social media companies.

If these trends continue, citizens could find themselves effectively exiled by order of corporate governors — unable to travel or go to school while also barred from espousing dissenting views on social media. They would, effectively, be “disappeared” within a shadow state that lacks any electoral or appellate process — a dystopian brave new world that could become all too real if we allow elected officials to use corporate surrogates to control the essential aspects of our lives.

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I know, I know, Rockefeller Foundation.

The True Cost of Food (Rockefeller)

Although Americans have some of the most affordable food in the world, our food comes with hidden costs—to our health, to our climate, and to the farmers, fishers, ranchers, and food workers who ensure goods make their way to store shelves. As the pandemic made explicit, those workers bear the brunt of the unequal and unsustainable food system we live with today. In fact, our food system costs all of us far more than what’s written on our receipt as we exit the check-out line. Our food system is failing us, and too few people understand the true cost of the food we consume, and lack clear incentives to change a system that is costing us dearly. That’s why accounting for the true cost of the food we eat is the first, necessary step towards remaking the incentive structure that drives our food system today.

Consider this: In 2019, American consumers spent an estimated $1.1 trillion on food. That price tag includes the cost of producing, processing, retailing, and wholesaling the food we buy and eat. It does not include the cost of healthcare for the millions who fall ill with diet-related diseases. Nor does $1.1 trillion include the present and future costs of the food system’s contributions to water and air pollution, reduced biodiversity, or greenhouse gas emissions, which cause climate change. Take those costs into account and it becomes clear the true cost of the U.S. food system is at least three times as big—$3.2 trillion per year. The true cost of food disproportionately burdens people of color, who are more likely to suffer from dietrelated diseases, have less access to water and sanitation, and often work in food production jobs for less than a living wage.

Americans pay that high cost even if consumers don’t see it in the check-out line. And, if we don’t change our food system, future generations will pay those high costs, too.

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    Édouard Vuillard In bed 1891   • 60% Of People Admitted To Hospital With Covid Have Been Double-Jabbed (Sky) • Hospitalisation Data Not A Reason
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle July 20 2021]

    #80261
    V. Arnold
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    Giuseppe Leone Ragusa Sicily 1953

    That, that picture went unremarked (even by me) is unforgiveable;
    It’s an absolute masterpiece; the lighting, the depth of field, the shutter speed…
    It all had to be perfect!
    …and it was………

    #80262
    Germ
    Participant

    July 24th – World Ivermectin Day !

    World Ivermectin Day

    #80263
    oxymoron
    Participant

    If Denninger’s point – In addition eradication was always doomed to fail because it has animal reservoirs, specifically at least cats is true then why the !%&*! are we still in lockdowns in Oz – we are in our 5th in Melbourne and it has just been extended.
    Apparently landscaping (my job) is dangerous so I am out of work now as being outside in the open air is scientifically proven to infect and kill everyone but if you are tiling a bathroom with two others for 8 hours you are safe as houses. As Dr D. says #Science™

    #80264
    upstateNYer
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    Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned in an interview… “And for most people who get this delta variant, it’s going to be the most serious virus that they get in their lifetime ….”

    Two paragraphs later, “He [Gottlieb] estimated that health officials know about only one out of 10 or 20 cases because some of those infected have mild cases and testing is not widespread.”

    Make up your mind already. It’s either a very serious illness for most people, or it’s so mild only 5%-10% know they have it without testing. How can anyone believe any of this anymore?

    #80265
    absolute galore
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    A term I had not heard until today, “the willingly unvaccinated” from this article in the New Yorker:
    Treating the Unvaccinated

    “The most striking feature of this wave is that “they’re all young,” Edwards said. “I can’t remember treating a single older COVID patient in the past couple months. It feels like they either got it, and they’re gone, or they got vaccinated, and they’re safe.””..
    ..”“I try not to feel angry, but it’s hard,” he said. “I try to be fair. I know I’m a well-off white doctor who understands science and medicine. The vaccine came to my place of work and I just rolled up my sleeve. I get that it’s harder for other people. But at this point it’s, like, C’mon, man, this is the most important thing you can do for your health.”

    #80266
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Make up your mind already. It’s either a very serious illness for most people, or it’s so mild only 5%-10% know they have it without testing. How can anyone believe any of this anymore?

    When I was a know-it-all college-campus leftist, I would frequently observe that most Americans are like, “Da TV said. Da TV said. We must obey da TV!”

    #80267
    upstateNYer
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    Kunstler: “Vaccine disinformation is killing people, Mr. “B” warned last week.”

    Indeed it is. Almost 12,000 deaths following vaccination that we know of so far. That “safe and effective vaccine” disinformation needs to be shut down pronto.

    #80268
    Mister Roboto
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    As for the article in The New Yorker linked by AG that emphasizes Utah, CV deaths are not at all up appreciably from June in that state. I’m really starting to think they’re just making this shit up entirely, and of course brainwashed PMC types are falling for it hook, line, and sinker. This is the first time in my adult life that I’m actually very glad that I’m the social hermit that I am.

    #80269
    John Day
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    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/07/it-already-happened.html
    Garden view from under pecan tree included.

    Many of us can see that we are being treated to false emergency narratives to make us comply with the established power order, and give up our rights, as established by existing laws. It is hard to see why, to see the real emergency, perhaps the real emergency is being hidden more effectively than the artificial emergencies are being promulgated. Not a bad bet, and we might even be complicit in obscuring the real emergency, ourselves.​
    ​ I propose that the real emergency is that global growth economy has already ended, and those who are aware of that are making feverish preparations for the day that the world realizes it, and the distribution systems based upon growth-economy become perplexed and dysfunctional.
    Expect the mandates of command-economy.​ How will this play out?

    ​That is absolutely not a bug, and look, YOU are the feature! You will be happy to cooperate, we assume…​
    ​ ​An Israeli company’s spyware was used in attempted and successful hacks of 37 smartphones belonging to journalists, government officials and human rights activists around the world, according to an investigation by 17 media organizations, published on July 18th…
    ​ ​The investigation highlights widespread and continuing abuse of NSO’s hacking spyware called ‘Pegasus’ which the company confirms is only intended for use against terrorist groups, drug and human traffickers, and criminals.
    ​ ​Pegasus is a very advanced malware that infects iOS and Android devices to allow operators of the spyware to copy messages, photos, calls and other data, including secretly activate microphones and cameras.
    Based on the investigation, the leak contains a list of 50,000 phone numbers that have been identified as those of people of interest by clients of NSO since 2016.
    T​he list includes many close family members of one country’s ruler, suggesting he might have instructed the country’s intelligence agencies to explore the possibility of tracking and spying on their own relatives.

    Israeli Software Company’s Spyware Used To Target Hundreds Of Journalists, Activists

    ​They will get to 100% Facebook-user-vaccine-acceptance on their own schedule, if you don’t mind…​ (Uh, Joe, what about the vaccine-death pandemic?)
    On Friday, Biden tore into social media platforms such as Facebook, accusing them of “killing people” by not cracking down on non-conventional opinions about vaccination fervently enough.
    “They’re killing people… Look, the only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated. And they’re killing people,” the US president said.
    Dismissing the allegation, Rosen accused Biden of essentially making Facebook a scapegoat for his administration’s failure to reach its self-imposed goal of having 70% Americans vaccinated by July 4.
    “President Biden’s goal was for 70% of Americans to be vaccinated by July 4. Facebook is not the reason this goal was missed,” Rosen said, arguing that figures “tell a very different story to the one promoted by the administration.”
    https://www.rt.com/usa/529512-facebook-missed-vaccination-goal-blame/

    Since you missed the story about vaccine-deaths, Mr. President, I’ll help out. (Some folks even think this count is a lowball.)
    For Second Week in a Row: More COVID-19 Vaccination Deaths than COVID-19 Deaths in the US According to CDC and VAERS Websites

    For Second Week in a Row: More COVID-19 Vaccination Deaths than COVID-19 Deaths in the US According to CDC and VAERS Websites

    #80270
    oxymoron
    Participant

    I think Kunstler has been reading Dr D in the comments sections.

    #80271
    those darned kids
    Participant

    we need herding immunity, not herd immunity.

    #80272
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    In fact, in no state with the possible exception of California (who had quite an apparent jump in reported deaths yesterday) is there any appreciable rise in Covid deaths.

    #80273
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Oops, sorry, I meant in no western US state, IOW, all the states west of Texas and the Great Plains.

    #80274
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Seeing stuff like this is giving me some insight into why Mr. House gets so dyspeptic at times. Right now I feel like I almost want to go take a plane to the East Coast and punch somebody at The New Yorker, as much as I know that going around punching people really doesn’t help anything at all.

    #80275
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    I suppose it’s possible that there’s some kind of reporting lag at work here, but based on what I’ve been seeing since my pandemic red-pilling, I am inclined to doubt that.

    #80276
    Dr. D
    Participant

    So…BoJo the Clown not doing too well. Maskless Million Man Mobs keep re-forming in London chanting for his arrest.

    Had a chance to do something. Failed in every way. This is when they recruit and install a fake outsider. Bye-bye BoJo.

    Back home, media failed in every way, but the important part is ratings. Nobody’s watching NBC, CNN, all the institutions that are the sole remaining power of the Derp State 100% owned. Now that’s a problem and for example we here are still referring to these irrelevant boobs that no one watches in or order to respond to them, as if they’re any more relevant than your drunk uncle coming home from rehab. They’re not. They have smaller viewership than any third Jimmy Dore or Diamond and Silk on the internet. (No offense to above). Here’s the point though: like psychos yesterday, they believe THEY give the people their opinions, a reality sadly more true than you’d hope. And if the minions are not obeying ME, they must be obeying THEM, so I need to go get “them”. Okay, fine. Here’s their problem: there is no “THEM”. They know we’re not listening to the media, experts, and derp narrative, but now have no idea who we ARE listening to, what we ARE thinking. Yes, they’re psychotic and respond to a lot of things that aren’t there. But this lack of intel and control is their true nightmare. You can’t respond to what you can’t see. We’re OUT OF CONTROL!!! Dogs and Cats living together!

    What ARE “we” thinking anymore? I ask in earnest. It’s not unified, it’s atomized. So how do you use a single star-destroyer cannon on a mob of Zulu warriors? Their tools are acutely wrong for the job. How are you going to put down a resistance that’s everywhere? Arrest all 200 million citizen skeptics? (Yes, they’re trying that right now with 8 months prison for tresspass).

    As yesterday, that goes with their side too. There are all kinds in “the elite”. I don’t mean to flatten their side as it IS important the various factions: Plantation owners, paid people, go-alongs, true believers, slow-actors, fast-actors, visible, generational, and all that matters. But to me it’s pretty clear that the vax push is along one line as the only explanation. Nothing else makes sense, as Sherlock Holmes says, when you’ve eliminated the possibilities, whatever remains, however strange and unlikely must be true. And yes, disease made up and solution is known dangerous is the only conclusion from the evidence so far. Which means they as individuals are…?

    I remember the beginning here and the violent, out-of-character push, seeming unbacked by any evidence coming in. Made quite a pest of myself because I’m shouting, “There’s something over here! Alarm, this is all wrong!” It was really hard. But at the same time, very easy. That was the evidence. What am I going to do, lie about it to be popular? Why annoy one person at a time when you can offend everyone at once? It’s your job as a human to tell the truth; we can figure out what it means later. Again, glad I did, however failing, as buying in would make reversing that much harder — as our social engineers counted on. Now The Narrative™ makes no sense at all, anywhere, yet people won’t let it go. Have the vaccine? Get Covid anyway, AFTER saying you’ll laugh and not come to the funeral of your unvaxxed friends. Or Vaccines DO work, then it must be the PCR tests don’t work: Okay, great! Let’s admit that it was all fabricated from fake tests and numbers. Vax and Tests work? Then clearly doctors don’t. Medicine has failed as you did everything right and still got it. Masks, all the other stuff proven not to work. …Or it was all a lie, masks, lockdowns, severity, tests, AND vaccines. AND media. AND government. AND your family. AND…

    Instead, presently, the PCR test people are in-fighting with the vaccine people (narrative) who are fighting with the political (Newsome) narrative, and the Trump narrative of every person dying is his fault is the opposite of the Cuomo narrative where every person dying proves his innocence, when according to NY’s numbers, they both DID die a lotta-lotta, and DIDN’T die a lotta-lotta, which would prove Covid isn’t dangerous. Which it is — super dangerous — but no one died, so don’t arrest me.

    So their entire system is dissolving everywhere. …Reminding ours, the peoples’, is too. So what happens when “no one’s in control”? According to them, the criminal weirdos, they run down the street screaming and smashing things like in “The Day Before the Day After Tomorrow”. Riots, attacks in the streets, they light mailboxes on fire. …Yet it never happens. It’s a made-up cartoon. Power goes out to entire Northeast 2003, people walk home on the Brooklyn Bridge and buy ice cream on the way, before it melts. Oh noes! Our riot didn’t go off! Peoplez iz peoplez. Instead: essentially, de-centralization. Power returns FROM the government and corporations, TO the people. You. And you get up and go to work just like now. Which Automatic Earth said all along, but more on the oil/economy point of view. …If this-all IS indeed a response to failing oil/energy, or oil of a certain type.

    Right on Schedule. “Meet the New World Currency, 2018”, symbol gold “Ǿ” But they blew it, protected idiot sons that they are. We ain’t doing the Great Reset. We’re going “Into the Great Wide Open.”

    They blew it? Market AND Treasuries are cracking hard right now.

    Speaking of broken narratives: “Half Million Chinese Sign Letter Demanding WHO Probe US Fort Detrick Lab”

    I’m for it. Wouldn’t surprise me a bit. But more like, China, which is really a merger with our (de nom) “Socialist” billionaire Fauccist-merger overlords, helped get this out. Somewhere. Chapel Hill? Once the White Hats realized ChinaCorp did this, what to do? Little late to put it back. Say “Gates and Soros had a love-child with Klaus and Xi”? You sound like a nut (although true) and not helpful/practical. How about taking same/similar thing, drop a whopping big pack of it in downtown Wuhan, 3 meters from the lab, then attack the city with 5G? Then ask for $15 Trillion in ransom/reparations? Now you’re talking. …Okay, now you understand why that would happen, in a fake world, the fake story is better than the real one. But I can only actually want the truth. If anybody else wants it, we’re fine and can get on track. But if they want half-truths like now, maybe it’s better to choose something practical instead, which it seems they have.

    “Hospitalisation Data Not a Reason to Doubt the Vaccine (Moore)”

    “Facts are no reason to doubt” What could you possibly add to a headline like that? Vaccines don’t work? No: Logic and Brains don’t work.

    “You either had Covid now or will get it, like it or not.” –Denninger

    Just what I said in Jan 20, so therefore “Lockdowns don’t work”. They didn’t as any idiot assembling their own data would see. So, SO easy to see, and saving what 200% increase in child suicide? He’s right about the lies though. …Lying there is no surface contamination, no non-symptom transmission.

    “Antibodies from Covid Infection Last at Least Nine Months (F.)”

    Shocked they could even get this crumb to the top, but again: COVID’s closest relative, SARS, has full immunity 10 YEARS later and counting. Why not lead with that? And according to Vax companies, their shot doesn’t last 12 weeks. You need a booster, for 100 shots or twice a year until you die. Q: is that normally what we define as a “vaccine”? Coz it sure seems like not-vaccine in every possible way.

    “Masks Are Just “Comfort Blankets” (SN)” Shots don’t work? Masks don’t work either. As ALL of their data said in ’20, and everyone would get it. You could either kill MORE people for no reason with masks and lockdowns, or just kill the lesser amount. Correct. Lockdowns were more a failure than not bothering at all, and not just for the economy.

    “The Shadow State: Corporations As Surrogates For Government Action (Turley)”

    Not very shadowy. Complete merger. Proud and advertised nightly on TV.

    “and to the farmers, fishers, ranchers, and food workers”

    Only thanks to Rockefeller market-rigging that’s held food prices artificially low for decades preventing all market and social response. Remember Mellencamp sang about this in 1980? Yeah, 40 years of you thieving jokers. That long. Problem with market rigging, like London Gold Pool, or Soviet subsidies, is that one day it vanishes all at once. Then there’s no backup system, and you suddenly need to go 0 to million-mph on day one. Wiemar. Everyone dies in the Crack-up Transition, as Kunstler said, the re-establishment of fair pricing. That’s happening right now as all our systems break. But once you’ve robbed the bank for 40 years, the only solution is to burn it down and hide the crime.
    Milton

    Ah but Oxy, if you were landscaping, you’d get Vitamin D and talk to folks, and we can’t have that!

    “Floods Close Rail Lines in Europe for Months or Longer”

    Apparently there is some stress with the Greenies right now. They feel the Green-at-all-costs fundamentalism has led to not dredging German rivers and other measures, leading to Belgium being destroyed downstream. Perhaps someone in Europe can add more.

    #80277
    oxymoron
    Participant

    those darned kids – we really really do. I am working out ways to communicate safely with the herd – of which I am a member. It is a real skill going forward. I thought it would be growing vegies and chopping wood.

    #80278
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    The perfect Metallica song for this pandemic insanity:

    “Penetrate the smoke-screen, I see through the selfish lie.”

    #80280
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “180º lie: “..immunity from infection [..] is typically weaker than that provided by vaccination.”

    “Why would anyone want to spin such lies? What’s to gain?”

    Ask an insane situation/person a logical question, and get a logically insane answer.

    #80281
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “Right now I feel like I almost want to go take a plane to the East Coast and punch somebody at The New Yorker, as much as I know that going around punching people really doesn’t help anything at all.”

    Bipolar logic we humans use: violence is all bad or allgood. We wouldn’t last long without violence. Life is critters slaughtering critters and consuming them. Violence is not “the answer” nor is pacifism. But that’s regarding external matters. Internally, one’s personal emotional ecology may be horribly abused by violence that is both necessary and just. There is no such thing as “peace” in the world, not is “war” something that stops. It just migrates as do times of relative security.

    We’ll remain passive until we can’t stand it, then we’ll become raving lunatic butchers. It’s what we do.

    Putin understands the algebra of violence for keeping war as we know it “over there”. He also understands the wisdom of not exporting violence abroad until absolutely necessary, and then pounding their head on the curb with a baseball bat until the oozing stops.

    ‘But, you can’t just take the law into your own hands.’

    ‘I know. That’s why I’m using lawlessness.’

    #80282
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “Now that’s a problem and for example we here are still referring to these irrelevant boobs that no one watches in or order to respond to them, as if they’re any more relevant than your drunk uncle coming home from rehab. They’re not.”

    Amen.

    #80283
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Dr D: “Dogs and Cats living together!”

    Love that line from the original Ghost Busters. Still use it myself at times.

    Excellent write up today of the dissolving narrative. Kudos!

    PS … I’ll say again, I’m sorry. I believed the narrative early on and got pissed at you. You were right. I was wrong. Embarrassingly so. What’s the line from that song? “I won’t get fooled again …” (at least, I hope I won’t). Thank you for what you do, even if we sometimes don’t seem to appreciate it. 😉

    #80284
    those darned kids
    Participant

    does this make sense?

    when you work in the private sector, you try to save money in order to enrich the wealthy even more.

    when you work in the public sector, you try to spend money in order to enrich the wealthy even more.

    #80285
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    those darned kids:

    No, it doesn’t make sense, but you do.

    #80286
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Dr. D shares his soul, seems to me. Such action is socially risky. On a good day, you’re a herfo; on a bad day, you’re a louse. The trick is to accept that this is so along with accepting that many people can’t seem to tell the difference and punish you for your best and reward you for your worst.

    To reveal oneself, warts and all, is perhaps the greatest gift, and therefore woefully underappreciated.

    Here we all are, essentially clueless, doing our best or worst, never really knowing why.

    Wasting Time

    Cause it ain’t all waisting time
    It took a long time to get here, to be with all of you guys
    Eh ey, eh ey
    Think of all the time, time, time
    You get to know it
    Think about the world I found spinning awry
    Remember all the clothes I wore to hide it from you
    You said: Let’s take the long walk home tonight
    Remember all the falling down and hiding under
    I think of all the time, time, time, time, time
    Eh ey, eh ey
    Remember all the hours I spent in constant reflection
    Well it gets you down but, it don’t make it right
    I made it my personal intervention
    What a waste of time, time, time, time, time
    Eh eh eh eh ey, eh eh eh eh ey, eh eh eh eh ey
    I got a feeling I, I can’t get over
    Maybe all we had has always been right
    I think of all the love you gain when you send it over
    Think of all the wool I’ve spun to be here tonight
    Think of all the time, time, time, time, time

    #80287
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    ‘waisting time’ Our robots can’t spell any better than our kids can.

    #80288
    zerosum
    Participant

    There are lots of wars in the USA

    #80289
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ Raúl Ilargi Meijer
    A great collection of articles demonstrating,
    “A divided America”

    There are lots of different conflicting.
    Definition:
    A conflict is a struggle between people which may be physical, or between conflicting ideas. The word comes from Latin conflingere Conflingere means to come together for a battle. … Conflicts arise because there are needs, values or ideas that are seen to be different, and there is no means to reconcile the dispute.

    Let’s call it what it is .
    “America at war”

    War – organised and often prolonged conflict that is carried out by states or non-state actors – is characterised by extreme violence, social disruption, and economic destruction.[1][2]
    War should be understood as an actual, intentional and widespread conflict between political communities, and therefore is defined as a form of political violence or intervention.
    ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_war )

    All “wars” consume more energy than rewards.

    #80290
    cloudhidden
    Participant
    #80291
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    I so appreciate the whole motley crew of TAE commenters, and Ilargi, for sharing their wit and wisdom every day.

    #80293
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ John Day

    “Good form, Girl!”

    You should see me in a tutu. And a pair of overalls.

    #80294
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ cloudhidden

    A

    B

    #80295
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    C

    D

    #80296
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    E

    F

    #80297
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    G

    The sea is an ocean of songs and alphabet soup of stories, iz troo?

    #80298
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Dore on Covid and now-universal censorship, direct Merger of the White House and Corporations.

    While important, don’t get eyes off the important stuff that will actually change things, like cleaning up the now many-state recount.

    Madam: dress code sounds very Cyndi of you. Or Bananarama.

    #80299
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Maybe we should watch C now before they cancel culture the blackfish at 2:08.

    #80300
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    We’re having so much fun here, I recommend we double-dip for Raul’s favorite reality TV show: Feeding the Homeless (coming soon to a town near you if you’re close enough and can cobble some friends and associates to do a little more than mail a check to Union Gospel Mission or Sally Ann).

    @ Dr. D

    Hippy chick work attire. Genuine article. Rub in some of that good red Georgia clay and pay me in bushel baskets of food.

    And, like any good media-platformed fundraiser schlemiel spiel, the tear-jerker:

    Where Were You?

    #80301
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Well, apparently the US financial markets started watching Chris Martenson videos last night and realized that the dreaded Delta Variant really isn’t anything to be frightened about.

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