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Israeli Lab: Some Existing Drugs Could Stop Covid At Almost 100% (JPost)
Mefloquine Inhibits SARS-CoV-2 Infection In Physiologically Relevant Cells (BX)
Israel Reports Sharp Decline In Pfizer Coronavirus Vaccine Efficacy (YNet)
5,522 People Have Died Within 28 Days Of Having A Covid-19 Vaccine In Scotland (DE)
English Care Homes Could Lose 70,000 Staff Over Mandatory Covid Jab (G.)
There Goes The Rest Of The Narrative (Denninger)
When Will Covid-19 Vaccines Be Fully Approved—And Does It Matter? (Sci.Mag)
When Will We FORCE A Stop To The BS? (Denninger)
Whitmer Kidnapping Defendants Claim Entrapment (ZH)
US Women’s Soccer Team To Boycott Scoring Goals Until Racism Is Defeated (BBee)

 

 

 

 

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`from a a fected goldmine: CDC posting today: Attack rate for Gamma variant was 0% (0/6) among persons with a previous history of COVID-19 versus attack rate was 60% (15/25) among fully vaccinated [Pfizer] miners and 75% (3/4) among unvaccinated miners without history of infection

 

 

Ron Paul VAERS

 

 

9 in 10 adults in UK regions likely to have covid antibodies. In Scotland, 88.6% estimated to have antibodies, 90.0% for Northern Ireland, 91.9% for England & 92.6% in Wales. Office for National Statistics based on a sample of blood test results for week beginning June 28;

 

 

“Arkin and his team culled through a library of more than 2,800 approved-for-use compounds, identifying 18 drugs they felt could be effective..”

Israeli Lab: Some Existing Drugs Could Stop Covid At Almost 100% (JPost)

Scientists from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem say they have identified several drugs that could potentially help treat, if not “cure,” people who develop COVID-19. Prof. Shy Arkin, a biochemist in the Alexander Silberman Institute of Life Science, told The Jerusalem Post that in lab tests in which cells infected with SARS-CoV-2 were placed together with the drugs for two days, “almost 100% of the cells lived despite being infected with the virus.” In contrast, without the preexisting drug compounds, around 50% of the cells died after coming in contact with the virus. Arkin and his team culled through a library of more than 2,800 approved-for-use compounds, identifying 18 drugs they felt could be effective. In unpublished work, the researchers were able to show that several of these compounds “exhibited remarkable potency against the whole virus in in vitro experiments.”

Two of them are Darapladib, used for the treatment of atherosclerosis, and Flumatinib, used for the treatment of certain blood cancers. Arkin said he was hesitant to share the names of any of the drugs, adding that he could not recommend them until they underwent proper clinical trials. The team focused on drug repurposing to potentially expedite any future regulatory steps. Since the drugs are already being used for other indications, their toxicity and side effects, for example, are known and approved. The way the drugs work is by inhibiting two targets in the virus: the E (envelope) protein and the 3a protein. The E protein is the most conserved of all virus proteins. For example, while the spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV-1 (the 2003 virus) are only about 75% identical, their E proteins are roughly 95% alike.

This means the drugs would likely remain effective even when the virus mutates, Arkin told the Post. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines target the spike protein. In previous studies, E and 3a proteins were shown to be essential for viral infectivity. Arkin’s team was among the first to study the E protein of the first SARS coronavirus in 2004. As part of research that Arkin’s team has been conducting for more than two decades, they identified that the E protein is an ion channel, a type of protein family expressed by virtually all living cells that because of its structure has “served as excellent and frequent targets for pharmaceutical point interventions,” including for cystic fibrosis, epilepsy, arrhythmia, neurodegenerative diseases, hypertension, angina and more, the report said.

It is important that “a large arsenal” of drugs exist to fight SARS-CoV-2, Arkin said. “We should never be in a situation where in our arsenal we only have one firearm,” he said. “If we only have one and we rely solely on it, and then there comes a time that it fails, we will be in a very precarious situation.” Arkin believes his team is set for in vitro and in vivo studies, and he is looking for a pharmaceutical partner to help carry these trials through. Citing the success of Gilead obtaining US Food and Drug Administration approval for Remdesivir in record time at the start of the pandemic, Arkin said he was optimistic that at least some of these compounds could be approved for use against COVID “very quickly with the right partner.”

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Here’s another candidate,

Mefloquine Inhibits SARS-CoV-2 Infection In Physiologically Relevant Cells (BX)

Antimalarial drugs, such as chloroquine (CQ)/hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and mefloquine have emerged as potential anti-SARS-CoV-2 antivirals. CQ/HCQ entered the Solidarity and RECOVERY clinical trials against COVID-19 and showed lack of efficacy. Importantly, mefloquine is not a 4-aminoquinoline like CQ and HCQ and has been previously repurposed for other respiratory diseases. Unlike the 4-aminoquinolines that accumulate in the high pH of intracellular lysosomes of the lung, the high respiratory tract penetration of mefloquine is driven by its high lipophilicity. While CQ and HCQ exhibit activity in Vero E6 cells, their activity is obviated in TMPRSS2-expressing cells, such as Calu-3 cells, which more accurately recapitulate in vivo entry mechanisms for SARS-CoV-2.


Accordingly, here we report the anti-SARS-CoV-2 activity of mefloquine in Calu-3 type II pneumocytes and primary human monocytes. Mefloquine inhibited SARS-CoV-2 replication, including the gamma variant, in Calu-3 cells with low cytotoxicity and EC50 and EC90 values of 1.2 and 5.3 uM, respectively. In addition, mefloquine reduced up to 68% the SARS-CoV-2 RNA levels in infected monocytes, reducing viral-induced inflammation. Mefloquine blocked early steps of the SARS-CoV-2 replicative cycle and was less prone than CQ to induce drug-associated viral mutations and synergized with RNA polymerase inhibitor. The pharmacological parameters of mefloquine are consistent with its plasma exposure in humans and its tissue-to-plasma predicted coefficient points that this drug may accumulate in the lungs. These data indicate that mefloquine could represent an orally available clinically approved drug option against COVID-19 and should not be neglected on the basis of the failure of CQ and HCQ.

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The clincher: the one thing left the vaccines were still supposed to do: protection from severe illness has also recorded a sharp drop of up to 60%.

Israel Reports Sharp Decline In Pfizer Coronavirus Vaccine Efficacy (YNet)

Israel on Tuesday reported a sharp decline in the efficacy of Pfizer/BioNTech’s coronavirus vaccine after receiving data from a recent analysis. Data from the analysis conducted by the Health Ministry suggest the efficacy of the vaccine declines over time in preventing infection and severe illness. Health officials presented their findings during a meeting of the ministry’s Epidemic Management Team on Monday night, which showed that protection from coronavirus infections among vaccinated people decreased by 42% since the start of the inoculation drive in Israel. In addition, protection from severe illness has also recorded a sharp drop of up to 60% among those who were inoculated in the early stages of the vaccine rollout.


However, most people who had been vaccinated at the early stage of the vaccine drive appear to be over the age of 65 and findings may not reflect the vaccine’s efficacy among those in other age groups. Ministry officials deemed the findings disturbing but claimed those were only preliminary analyses of very raw data. It was not yet clear whether the results were linked to an apparent erosion of the vaccine’s protection against the virus or greater resistance of the Delta variant to the inoculation. [..] Last week, Israel began administering a third shot of the Pfizer/BioNTech inoculation to patients with compromised immune systems, including people who have had heart, lung and kidney transplants.

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920 per month over 6 months, when Covid deaths were 866 per month. Note: In Dec 2020, far fewer people were jabbed than later, so the 2021 per month number is higher.

5,522 People Have Died Within 28 Days Of Having A Covid-19 Vaccine In Scotland (DE)

Public Health Scotland have revealed that 5,522 people have died within twenty-eight days of having a Covid-19 vaccine within the past 6 months in Scotland alone. Due to dozens of freedom of information requests being made, asking Public Health Scotland (PHS) to provide the current total number of deaths of any individual who has died within 28 days of having a Covid-19 vaccine, PHS decided the best way forward was to publish the information routinely and periodically within their Covid-19 statistical report. The most up to date figures published by PHS and within the report released by on the 23rd June 2021, and they reveal that between the 8th December 2020 and the 11th June 2021 a total number of 5,522 people died within 28 days of having a dose of a Covid-19 vaccine.

According to the spreadsheet provided by Public Health Scotland; which includes the quantity of deaths by type of vaccine and the date they occurred, 1,877 deaths have been due to the Pfizer mRNA jab, 3,643 deaths have been due to the AstraZeneca viral vector jab, and 2 deaths have been due to the Moderna mRNA jab. This equates to an average of 920 deaths occurring every month due to the Covid-19 vaccines in Scotland alone. Outnumbering the average number of people who have died of Covid-19 in Scotland by 866 per month. A freedom of information request made on the 30th January asked the Scottish Government to reveal the total number of people who had died of Covid-19 since March 2020. To which the Scottish Government responded on the 11th March 2021 with – “The answer to your question is 596 deaths involving COVID-19 has been registered where there was no pre-existing medical condition between March 2020 and January 2021 (including).”

Public Health England has so far refused to publish any data on the number of deaths occurring within 28 days of having the vaccine in England, but it is not for the want of people trying. Dozens of freedom of information requests have been made to PHE asking the question but they never fail to respond with the statement that “Public Health England can confirm it does not hold the information that you have requested. However, using the data on the number of deaths due to the Covid-19 vaccines in Scotland we can estimate what the likely number of deaths are due to the jabs in England. Adjusting to the size of the population we estimate the actual number of deaths due to the jabs in England in the past 6 months could be as high as 57,470.

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How many people must lose their jobs before someone says STOP?

English Care Homes Could Lose 70,000 Staff Over Mandatory Covid Jab (G.)

Up to 70,000 care home staff in England could leave the workforce or lose their jobs because the government is insisting they must be vaccinated against Covid, with women and ethnic minorities disproportionately affected, according to an official estimate. In an impact statement from the government, officials believe between 3% and 12% of care home staff may still resist getting a Covid jab by the end of a 16-week grace period. The central estimate was that 40,000 could be left without jobs, but it could be as high as 70,000 or as low as 17,000.

In a separate statement on the public sector equality duty, the government said the policy of mandatory vaccination for care home staff was “likely to have a significant impact on ethnic minorities” as one in five members of the social care workforce are black, Asian or from another ethnic minority, a higher proportion than in the overall population of England. It added: “The evidence suggests that vaccine hesitancy is highest among black people, people of Pakistani and Bangladeshi heritage, and non-UK/Irish white ethnic groups.” The statement also acknowledged there was a “risk that issues such as lack of trust could be exacerbated by this policy” in relation to social care workers from minority ethnic backgrounds.

A group of Conservative MPs opposed to the policy had been repeatedly pressing the government to release an impact assessment before it called a vote on the issue last week. Boris Johnson managed to get the policy through the House of Commons but there was a sizeable rebellion of more than 30 MPs who joined with Labour and other opposition parties in opposing the policy. Defending the move in the House of Lords, James Bethell, a health minister, said: “We did not take lightly the decision to introduce this legislation. However, the risks that this winter will undoubtedly pose to the most vulnerable in our society make clear the choice that we must make, to do everything in our power to protect them.”

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“..there is no public health benefit to the jabs. These fully vaccinated people not only got the virus, they gave it to others. That, my friends, is what everyone claimed wouldn’t happen — if you got jabbed you protected other people. ”

There Goes The Rest Of The Narrative (Denninger)

There are 67 Democrats in the TX Delegation. I presume not all of them flew to DC; the news says “more than 50”, which is enough to deny the quorum and was the point of the exercise. There are now six confirmed Covid infections among them, and all are fully vaccinated. That’s a failure rate of roughly 10% for symptomatic infections, and not just preventing infection either — they transmitted it to each other as the infections were serial; not all got it on the same day. Since the CDC says somewhere between 6 and 24 (best guess 11) people are entirely asymptomatic and untested for each tested, symptomatic infection this means that more than half of the delegation in fact has the virus and is presumably, under the CDC’s claim of “asymptomatic transmission” spreading it to others.

Is ten percent failure rare? How about more than fifty percent? That sounds rather more like “worthless” to me. What say you? In addition a White House official also has tested positive after coming into contact with the delegation. Said person is also fully vaccinated and is symptomatic. They, since they are symptomatic, are presumptively contagious despite being “fully vaccinated.” How many White House officials were there? One? Boy, that’s a pretty good breakthrough case percentage isn’t it? Never mind the 10%+ symptomatic failure rate, which strongly implies at least half the delegation actually got infected, among the delegation itself. May I remind you that 80%, according to a study first published last summer, of the population has pre-existing resistance and thus would likely either by asymptomatic or only mildly so even if not vaccinated.

Have we improved anything at all other than, perhaps, individual outcomes with these shots? The data says, within the confidence interval, no. In other words there is no public health benefit to the jabs. These fully vaccinated people not only got the virus, they gave it to others. That, my friends, is what everyone claimed wouldn’t happen — if you got jabbed you protected other people. That claim was never in evidence; the original studies were underpowered to determine that and this was clearly stated in the study itself. The media and politicians, on the other hand, either didn’t read the studies or didn’t give a crap about the truth and talked you into taking a jab not to protect yourself if you are at specific risk but by lying to you that doing so would protect others.

We now know that claim was a lie. It was a lie by lack of knowledge before; now it is a straight-up knowing lie to repeat it. Add this to all the other lies. Why would you take any sort of personal health advice — now that it’s admitted that’s all the jab advocacy is — from the very same people who have been caught lying serially on virtually every topic related to Covid since last spring? You have to be a special brand of stupid to listen to people who get caught lying repeatedly, and then double-down on said lies. You’re only mistaken when you admit to that which is later proved false. As soon as you double-down on it you’re intentionally misleading people.

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People are so willing to ignore established scientific protocols, completely unaware that in doing so they step on the graves of the scientists who wrote them, AND those of the victims whose misery made them necessary.

When Will Covid-19 Vaccines Be Fully Approved—And Does It Matter? (Sci.Mag)

On 16 July, FDA accepted Pfizer’s application “under priority review”—meaning it will move faster than during standard reviews, which typically take at least 10 months; the agency now has until January 2022 to review the materials. That seems like a long time, but last week an FDA official told CNN that the decision is likely to come within 2 months. “The review … has been ongoing, is among the highest priorities of the agency, and the agency intends to complete the review far in advance of the [January] Date,” an FDA press officer confirmed to Science in a statement. FDA has not formally accepted Moderna’s application, possibly because the company has not yet submitted all the required materials.

Full approval could help overcome vaccine hesitancy, Eric Topol, director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute, wrote in a recent op-ed in The New York Times. “Some people who understand that the ‘E’ in ‘EUA’ stands for ‘emergency’ are waiting for full FDA approval before they receive a shot,” he wrote. “I think it’s fair to say that any number of us who are clinical infectious disease doctors and in public health are frankly a little surprised at how long the process is taking,” says William Schaffner, professor of infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. “I want [FDA] to be careful. I also want them to move it along,” Schaffner says. “Frankly, I’d like them to work on the weekends. The people who are vaccinating are working on the weekends. The virus is working on the weekends.”

About 30% of unvaccinated people say they were waiting for vaccines to receive full approval, according to a survey of 1888 adults conducted in June by the Kaiser Family Foundation. But the report cautions that for many people, FDA approval is likely “a proxy for general safety concerns.” Not everyone now focused on approval may actually get a vaccine, especially if they perceive the approval process as rushed or politically motivated. “For the people who are really dead set against getting the vaccine at this point, I don’t know that the FDA giving it full approval is going to make a huge difference,” says Krutika Kuppalli, an infectious disease doctor at the Medical University of South Carolina who says many of her patients are wary of COVID-19 shots.

But full approval may sway some people. For example, for members of groups that have been treated poorly by the health care system, signing a consent form to get vaccinated—a requirement for vaccines with an EUA—may be a psychological barrier, Gandhi says: “Signing a consent that says ‘experimental’ and the phrase ‘experimental’ brings up issues of experimentation on Black and brown communities.”

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Some lies are bigger than others.

When Will We FORCE A Stop To The BS? (Denninger)

Ok, enough folks. “I’m admitting young healthy people to the hospital with very serious COVID infections. One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late,” she wrote. “A few days later when I call time of death, I hug their family members and I tell them the best way to honor their loved one is to go get vaccinated and encourage everyone they know to do the same.” This sort of lie should cost Ms. LIAR her license and everyone who ran this bull**** should be ruined. Her “hospital” — any agency or entity that allows her to infest their premises should be flat-out destroyed along with every single person who works in any such place and gives her credibility by doing so. Why? This story is from Alabama. Now I want you to look very carefully at this table.

[..] According to that table not one person has died since the end of April in Alabama from Covid-19 according to that graph which goes through 7/20 — yesterday. What is “99% (unvaccinated) of ZERO (all people who died of Covid in Alabama SINCE APRIL)”? ZERO! But yes, Ms. Smiling Crazy Bitch is imploring people to get jabbed for what, she says, will stop becoming part of a wave of death that is happening right now. If someone died today, well, that’s one. Where are all the others? Oh, and the story? It’s not, allegedly, from today. It references a viral Facebook post from the weekend. AGAIN: Where is the pile of bodies in the above graph that Ms. Crazy claims are stacking up? If you look elsewhere you will find that perhaps Statista gave up. Why? Too small to matter.


Let’s put perspective on this, assuming it’s accurate: The 7-day average according to that second site state-wide has been at or under 10 since April. Ok, Alabama has approximately 5 million people in it, or 1.52% of the total of the nation. Roughly 8,200 people die daily in the US of all causes, so in Alabama that would be 124 dead bodies. Do you really think three, four, five on a 7-day average state-wide — with lots of zeros — is material in the whole? How many of those are people who are seriously ill with other things? Most of them, as has always been the case with Covid. And has also always been the case if you’re positive at death or within 30 days of it you count and Biden just extended the hospital toe tag bounties for both admissions and ventilator use. People need to go straight to prison for this bull****.

10 years for Ms. Ex-Preggers tossing her new kid (along with any others she has) in an orphanage should wake her ass up for lying and threatening people that they will surely die in order coerce them to do something they do not otherwise want to do. If the jabs work so well why are both Malta and Israel, two of the highest-vaccinated percentage populations in the world, both taking huge case spikes? In addition explain India which has 6% of their population vaccinated (one of the lowest among the world) and their case rate has collapsed by 90%. How is that possible if the jab is the only way forward and the only way we can defeat this horrible virus? Is it not more likely that the jabs are nearly worthless in terms of infections and the virus is, in fact, following Farr’s Law — as places release lockdowns and strictures the infections which were delayed occur anyway? How many times has Australia breathed an “all clear!” sign of relief and then oops — guess not!

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J. Edgar Hoover must have been a fan of the Keystone Cops. But hey, the J6 people get convicted, so why not these schmucks?

Whitmer Kidnapping Defendants Claim Entrapment (ZH)

At least a dozen FBI informants infiltrated an anti-government group of aspiring extremists, and were involved in virtually every aspect of a plan to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, according to BuzzFeed. “Some of those informants, acting under the direction of the FBI, played a far larger role than has previously been reported,” according to the report. One ‘informant,’ an Iraq war veteran, “became so deeply enmeshed in a Michigan militant group” that he rose to second-in-command – telling members of the group to meet with other potential suspects, and even footing the bill to transport members to meetings. Another FBI ‘informant’ advised the militia group on where they should plant explosives, and offered to procure as many as were needed.

“Everybody down with what’s going on?” an Iraq War veteran in the group demanded to know when they ended their recon mission, well past midnight, at a campsite where they were all staying. “If you’re not down with the thought of kidnapping,” someone else replied, “don’t sit here.” The men planned for all kinds of obstacles, but there was one they didn’t anticipate: The FBI had been listening in all along. For six months, the Iraq War vet had been wearing a wire, gathering hundreds of hours of recordings. He wasn’t the only one. A biker who had traveled from Wisconsin to join the group was another informant. The man who’d advised them on where to put the explosives — and offered to get them as much as the task would require — was an undercover FBI agent. So was a man in one of the other cars who said little and went by the name Mark.” -BuzzFeed

Three weeks later, over a dozen men were arrested by federal and state agents in what one federal prosecutor described as a “deeply disturbing” criminal conspiracy hatched over several months via secret meetings, encrypted chats, and paramilitary-style training exercises. In total, 14 men were charged last year in the alleged plot to kidnap Whitmer. They’ve all pleaded not-guilty, and say the FBI set them up. They claim their talk never rose beyond the level of fantasy, and that they never intended to harm Whitmer or anyone else. The defendants claim there was no conspiracy to kidnap the governor – and instead say they were targeted because of their political views.

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Not everyone likes the woke girls.

US Women’s Soccer Team To Boycott Scoring Goals Until Racism Is Defeated (BBee)

People were stunned after the U.S. women’s soccer team lost to Sweden in the Olympics this week by a score of 3-0—until the team revealed they are boycotting scoring any goals until racism is defeated. “Yeah, we didn’t score any goals against Sweden last night, but that was totally on purpose,” said star player and beloved activist Megan Rapinoe. “This isn’t the time to score goals—when America is still racist. We totally could have beaten Sweden but we decided as a team that no goals will be scored until complete equality has been achieved in America. Also, we demand a hefty raise.”


Onlookers were stunned during the second half of the game when Rapinoe dribbled the ball all the way to Sweden’s unprotected goal and whispered “This is for you, people of color,” before kicking the ball straight into the air and running headfirst into the goalpost. “This may be one of the most powerful performances in the history of sports,” said Teen Vogue’s sportswriter who has never watched sports. The U.S. Women’s team is demanding to remain in the Olympic tournament and promises to continue its streak of zero goals. Inspiring!

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    Edward Hopper Western Motel 1957   • Israeli Lab: Some Existing Drugs Could Stop Covid At Almost 100% (JPost) • Mefloquine Inhibits SARS-CoV-2 In
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle July 22 2021]

    #80530
    V. Arnold
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    Edward Hopper Western Motel 1957

    Love the Hopper; verbally dead, but visually very much alive…

    #80534
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @absolute (from yesterday): I don’t live in “upstate NY” either. I live in central new york. I got in the habit of saying upstate NY when I lived in other states. If I told people I was from NY their eyes lit up because they thought I meant NYC. Got tired of pointing out there’s an entire state attached to NYC. And thus a habit was born.

    #80536
    madamski cafone
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    I have seen many places but nothing quite like the Finger Lakes region. Very fave stretch of USA scenery.

    Milk and Honey

    #80537
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @madam: NY is a beautiful state with many regions (none of them called upstate unless you’re from NYC). Some of the regions, off the top of my head: Catskills, Adirondack, Southern Tier, North Country, Capital, Hudson Valley and, of course, Finger Lakes and Central.

    #80541
    Veracious Poet
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    (Reply from yesterday, hopefully this one won’t get blocked as spam by google?)

    UpstateNYer: AND?? Lots of talk. What are YOU actually doing? Do you live in the US? If yes, why didn’t you leave when you realized we are ” the U$ofA-holes”?

    25+ years ago I was doing plenty, as part of a Men’s Prayer Group, talking on the radio, in churches & person-to-person trying to educate citizens about the reality of the Empire, teaching the true history of the Democratic Republic, and the suspension of Natural Rights/USCON under Emergency Powers.

    We were part of a pre-internet national movement called the Christian Patriot Fax network, where information was exchanged & efforts to stop the raping, pillaging & plunder of the planet were the goal.

    My group had several local radio hosts, a retired FAA regional director, several clergy, an LA Times reporter, several Aerospace engineers (like myself) & + an assortment of local businessmen ~ We even gained the attention of a CONgress candidate, who we supported, but once elected he became too busy with the DC looting op to even respond…

    After a couple of years it became obvious the general public was too busy tripping the light fantastic with feeding their child EGO demands to be bothered with becoming involved with any substantial effort ~ In one ear, out the other became the reality we found ourselves in.

    I moved in 1996 to Gotham (changing careers from .mil to ,justice contracting ) & soon discovered how completely futile the effort was & probably still is…

    I have a VAST experience with .gov/.mil & a wide swath of people (I’ve been in 45 states) that tells me indeed, the effort was a waste of time.

    The amerikan aristocracy is willing to use nukes & F15s to eliminate any & all that oppose their power ~ I’m afraid the utter destruction of the Republic is fait accompli & without a Great Spiritual Awakening couple with a New Age of Reason the Democratic Republic established by the Sons of Liberty is a dead, DEAD, DEAD!

    Too many demoRATS & GOPhers, not many AMERICANS.

    P.S. My last ancestor came to America right before ol’ Abe the Tyrant made us all slaves to free the African slaves. I have 4 families in the Sons of the Revolution charter, so I think I’m gonna stay until the end 😉

    P.P.S. I’m retired/independently wealthy, with no heirs ~ I no longer care, I just prepare ~ To those with children they care about I’m very sorry; We tried but nary anyone could give a $hit.

    #80542
    John Day
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    Last night Madamski said: “Don-Don messes up EVERYthing he touches… including the well-laid plans of the Duopoly. Like I said, he was useful as a loose cannon for awhile. I would’ve preferred a real leader, but those seem to come along maybe once a century. I didn’t vote for him, fwiw. I held my nose and voted for Jill Stein, a quixotic waste that has the one benefit of allowing me to tell people that I voted.”

    And thanks for reposting TAE Summary with all of those embarrasing votes one might have cast. I actually, only voted for Jerry Ford. I was 18. I was trying to be serious. I did not yet know better. Time after tht I voted Citizen’s Party, Barry Commoner, who wrote “The Closing Circle” about recycling and respecting the environment, which I had actually read before I voted for Jerry Ford. I essentially vote third party every time, and I made and gave away #100 (front) I Vote Green , (back) Jill Stein MD President 2016 , t-shirts, dark green on bright green, including just a few tank tops (wearing now- shows shoulders). These are my most standard bike-to-work attire. They were my “political speech” in 2016. I handed Jill one when she came to Austin. She was pretty dynamic in a “dynamite-comes-in-small-packages” kind of way.
    Were you looking at TAE back in March 2020? Look, here’s a present for you.

    Debt Rattle March 3 2020


    It’s a picture (scroll down…) of John in a 1970s vintage Sears aloha shirt (Tulsi commented on vintage) telling Tulsi about HCQ for America on March 2, 2020, Texas Independence Day, when she came to Austin for a rally. She really listened well, focused just like Jenny took the picture the whole time.
    Tulsi happened to enter right where Jenny found us a place to sit, and hugged Jenny, and said she was “glad to see her here”. Jenny was always assumed to be “local” in Hawaii. I’m a a “haole”, “gringo”, “farang”, “bilagaana”, “gaijin”, etc. So we both wrote in Tulsi Gabbard. I was being facetious about the “getting behind Bernie or Donald, at least they’re not Hillary or Jeb”. That was the line, and I did repeatedly predict that people would not elect Hillary or Jeb, and somehow it came to pass, despite massive rigging…
    @Upstate NYer. I drove a U-Haul from Austin to Rochester (hearing Jack benny’s voice) a few years ago when my youngest daughter and her husband moved there. Yeah, nice in the summer. I pruned their cherry and plum trees and put in a vegetable garden for them the year after. They were both in grad-school. Math (her) and Physics (him). As A kid I actually lived in Brooklyn and Garden City for a couple of years, when Dad got stationed there before they sent him to Vietnam. All anybody knows is NYC or “upstate” NY.

    #80544
    madamski cafone
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    #80545
    John Day
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    @Voracious Poet: Duly noted, Sir. Spiritual is our best option.

    #80546
    zerosum
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    I’m going to explore/find a mountain with no smoke

    bottlenecks will continue to happen ……
    Waiting …… until this winter ….. better/worst ……
    too much of ….. or not enough of …..
    suck it up …. it is what it is …..

    just prepare

    #80547
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    ” I was being facetious about the “getting behind Bernie or Donald, at least they’re not Hillary or Jeb”.”

    Ah. Glad to hear it.

    #80548
    those darned kids
    Participant

    ah, gerry ford, the pride of grand rapids..

    if i remember correctly, apart from the tail end of the american war*, mr. ford’s administration was relatively unaggressive compared to the usual death’n’destruction** emanating from the stygian shores of the potomac.

    *americans call it the vietnam war.
    **proudly sponsored by wendy’s™, mattel, and raytheon, official skinmelter provider to heroes everywhere.

    #80549
    #80550
    those darned kids
    Participant

    eek!

    everybody is not getting “jabbed” – they’re getting “JEBBED”!

    (symptoms included boringness, blandness, bushness, and youngerbrotherness)

    #80552
    John Day
    Participant

    It’s OK to “vaccinate” these kinds of “miners”, but it doesn’t seem to help much, if at all…

    “`from an infected goldmine: CDC posting today: Attack rate for Gamma variant was 0% (0/6) among persons with a previous history of COVID-19 versus attack rate was 60% (15/25) among fully vaccinated [Pfizer] miners and 75% (3/4) among unvaccinated miners without history of infection”

    #80553

    Who would not want to beat this freak into a pulp? Ugly and dangerous.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1418186549846548482

    #80554
    oxymoron
    Participant

    If that tik tok numbskull’s wishes bear fruit, shit will go down. There will be hiding, social unrest, breakdown of family conventions and discourse, violence, backlash, law breaking and the whole gambit of horrors.

    I think THAT move won’t happen because it will be attempted with passports. If it does all hell will break loose.

    I think he hasn’t thought it through. Might have eaten too many GMO cornflakes. Looks lonely and concerned.

    #80555
    John Day
    Participant

    Jerry Ford is remembered in San Antonio , Texas, where Jenny’s from, for a cmapign stop he made there in 1976. He was handed a tamale, local food, which is masa and pig’s head rolled in corn husk and boiled. One removes the corn husk before chomping down.
    Jerry didn’t know about removing the corn husk…

    Poor Jerry… but he was part of the Warren Commission cover-up. He had it coming.

    #80557
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Therre will be blood.

    #80558
    John Day
    Participant

    Madamski said: “There will be blood”
    Well, there is blood, and there will be blood.
    Would you like to elaborate?
    I’m sorta’ intrigued.

    #80559
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    A replier on the Tweet about the TikTok idiot checked out the idiot’s other TikTok vids and is convinced it’s just satire.

    #80561
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @John Day: I knew you were being facetious.

    #80562
    Dr. D
    Participant

    What can you say on a day like that? When will it end?

    Added some comments to yesterday, run-down of the Coof.

    #80563
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “Madamski said: “There will be blood”
    Well, there is blood, and there will be blood.
    Would you like to elaborate?
    I’m sorta’ intrigued.”

    More and more in more and more directly confrontatioonal ways. The traditional kind:

    Chains, brass knuckles, half-a-bricks

    Anomie.

    #80564
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    “ Vaccines vs antibodies”

    So the answer to the problem of the vaccines causing a five-fold reduction in neutralizing antibodies is more shots which presumably reduce your neutralizing antibodies even more. How does that possibly make any sense?

    #80565
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “A replier on the Tweet about the TikTok idiot checked out the idiot’s other TikTok vids and is convinced it’s just satire.”

    Too bad it comes across as being serious. Coulda fooled me, but then, we all have our blind spots. The dude may be clever but he’s foolish and dangerous. One needs to provide context with satire, especially if you’re young and internet-hip and have seen how the likes of the Bee/Onion are passed around as fact if they’re not blatantly labeled.

    I deem him a self-indulgent dipshit more concerned with his personal “ironic” hepitude than the issues he addresses.

    Won’t he be surprised if someone takes him seriously, knows where he lives, and hammers him. Modern Western people tend to have little idea of how reality works when the media buffers come off.

    #80566
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “How does that possibly make any sense?”

    ‘We’re working on it, said the poor sot who recieved the unlucky job of replacing Fauci. ‘We’re working on it.’

    #80568
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Dr D, from yesterday. Fascinating. Thank you.

    “I think everyone was incredibly tense and depressed yesterday. I was too and today as well. I hear, on Vlogs and stuff other people are too, and their moods track together. Present theory: totally predictable (look in history), but mechanism is probably either we spin 22,000mph through bands of space-stuff, or the sun puts out heartbeat magnetism on the same clockwork (roughly 70 years, with higher cycle 200y). It causes too much outside energy to be injected into human systems worldwide. Every individual at once. If they are anything less than enlightened, it overheats them and blows their circuits into violence. This is precisely what was said by Washington and in the 30’s, which fall on war cycles like clockwork. And yes, dead-matching the sun and weather (famines/disease). We are EVERYTHING less than enlightened, so it sucks to be us.”

    #80569
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    I shift between incredibly tense and depressed and *not-quite-so* incredibly tense and depressed on a daily basis. At times there are interludes of joy/fun/happiness, usually when hanging with my 3 yr old grandchild (the joyful discoveries of a toddler!!!). But even during the happy interludes there is an undeniable undercurrent of … something.

    “Something wicked this way comes,” indeed. 🙁

    #80570
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @veracious: I understand your frustration, but using a broad brush to paint everyone the same color and then hurling names at them isn’t the answer. @expat mentioned yesterday that onlookers were shouting vile things at protestors in France. To continually throw more fuel on the fire is, at the very least, counter-productive. Divide and conquer, as the saying goes.

    I’m getting booted off TAE as a commenter and have to keep logging in. Getting blocked as a “spammer”, as well. Probably blabbing too often here.

    #80571
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    I doubt it, upstate. I’m obviously hyper-verbose and I never have that problem. Just don’t upload a buncha pre-written stuff one after another lickety-split.

    ^&*

    Regarding the tiktok vakzinazi satire video:

    It could be a deliberate sting. Have it make the rounds of anti-vakzers, then spread the word that it’s a satire, and let the mainstream news pick it up and use it make us look like qanon idjuts.

    Just seeing his face made me want to punch it, and I’m not nearly as feisty as I once was. I despise everythng about that video, including that it is supposed to be satire. I see severe passive-aggressivity, possibly employed as the PR strategy I described in the previous paragraph.

    Up his rectum with an iron plectrum.

    #80572
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    I ask again, this time directly of Dr. D: what does it take to get you to answer a simple question? Must I sacrifice a rubber chicken at midnight?

    #80573
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    He might have answered your question in that long bit he added to the previous comment-thread just now. Not always easy to parse out what he’s trying to say.

    #80574
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    I think veracious poet was being fair and reasonable. He used terms like “general public” and similar, and one assumes he is expressing earnestly the results of his efforts and his feelings about them. Plus, he provided this awesome summation of what was wrong/right about the Civil War:

    “My last ancestor came to America right before ol’ Abe the Tyrant made us all slaves to free the African slaves. I have 4 families in the Sons of the Revolution charter, so I think I’m gonna stay until the end 😉”

    Perfectly expressed insight. Think of abolitionism being coopted a la wokesterism today coopting numerous valid social complaints.

    I agree: too many DemocRATs and too many GOPhers. SIde vs side, divide and conquer, no sense of genuine unity aka AMERICANS. Man’s got an extremely valid point, imo.

    #80575
    TDub
    Participant

    I’ve been reading all your posts more frequently lately as it has become impossible (or nearly so) to have real, live discussions with people in an objective way. Such are the times we live in. Reading your views on how frustrating the situation is helps me keep my sanity.

    While flagging the daily BS has its place, any thoughts on how a group like this can go on more of an offensive? I imagine you all would agree that sharing facts and objective perspectives are ineffective or counterproductive.

    What about humor? I think many of the great comedians (George Carlin comes to mind) have been able to wake people up to the fact that the emperor has no clothes. Im specifically thinking of responses to the question of whether one is vaccinated or not.

    I’m not naturally funny, though working on a quip along the lines of “The people who brought you Iraqi WMDs want you to trust the people who brought you the opioid epidemic.” Any thoughts on that ‘joke’ or any others in a similar spirit you have?

    #80576
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @madam: I don’t pre-write stuff and post it. Hence my frequent typos and grammatical errors. Didn’t have a problem posting on TAE until today so … ??

    #80577
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Re: veracious. His comment today was in response to a comment I made yesterday in response to his comment yesterday criticizing everyone for doing nothing to stop any of this. Just to clarify.

    #80578
    John Day
    Participant

    Madamski said, about blood: “More and more in more and more directly confrontational ways.
    The traditional kind:
    Chains, brass knuckles, half-a-bricks
    Anomie.”

    Upstate NYer said Dr. D said: “I think everyone was incredibly tense and depressed yesterday. I was too and today as well.”

    TDub said: “While flagging the daily BS has its place, any thoughts on how a group like this can go on more of an offensive?
    I imagine you all would agree that sharing facts and objective perspectives are ineffective or counterproductive.”

    John: “See below, please.”

    #80579
    John Day
    Participant

    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/07/the-will-of-love.html Including picture Manuel Labour

    Creatures of Love,

    This song was playing in my head in the garden as I picked “southern peas” a couple of days ago.

    Yesterday I shared the tension I am feeling.
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/07/no-longer-abstract.html

    People tell me they are feeling it, too.
    I thought it helped explain those crazy moments in history, like those that led people into WW-2.
    The constant tension feels unbearable. Others are urging, cajoling, bullying and publicly-shaming us to do-the-thing, like everybody else.
    Don’t keep being weird. What’s wrong with you?

    A couple of friends of mine at work, both Registered Nurses, informed, responsible, good parents, are looking for a pediatric practice where they can take their kids, where they will not be looked at like lepers or gargoyles when they say they (the parents) “have not been vaccinated”.
    I called a practice where I used to work. They’re still human to people who don’t want vaccines. The culture also applies to adults who have good reasons not to want this bunch. I passed it on. It’s safe to call Central Family Practice in Austin.

    Jenny, my humanity-compass, my wife, has been feeling tremendously pressured and torn. It’s not that she doesn’t see the power dynamics and the stakes.
    Jenny is a school librarian. She told me when people at school, coworkers got COVID last summer, fall and winter, and I privately talked with those people, and wrote them prescriptions for ivermectin based antiviral treatment. I also treated a husband with cancer, on chemo,
    They all got better, and nobody paid me anything. Good Samaritan. I think it was 6 people.

    That was wonderful. Everybody liked that. As spring progressed, it got harder and harder for Jenny to tell everybody “she was not vaccinated”. Some of it came from coworkers , but also a lot from concerned parents, bringing their kids back to school in person, after a long time at home. Austin is a “blue city in a red state”, and the parents at her school are mostly deep blue and wealthy enough to live in an expensive and intellectual part of town, the nice old mansion district by the UT campus.

    Jenny is dreading going back to school and having to give the same “wrong answer” to .concerned-wealthy-parents again and again, day after day until she breaks and acquiesces and can be accepted as not-leperous.

    “Accepting the jab is nothing more than a loyalty test to the narrative.”
    Somebody commented that on The Automatic Earth blog yesterday, and I like it a lot as an encapsulation of the social tension dynamic here.
    The feeling totally sucks. It’s unrelenting cognitive dissonance, making one feel anxious and shunned, and very insecure.
    It’s a feeling. Feelings are different from thoughts. Feelings don’t usually respond well to being thought-at.

    Narratives change by being resisted sufficiently for the question to remain open, as the evidence piles up that the narrative is wrong and dangerous.
    Then the paradigm has to shift. Tet-offensive, Vietnam. It happened. You might like other examples, but I lived that paradigm shift. Dad got back from a year in Vietnam just before Tet started, and I saw the whole societal shift unfold from Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, where we moved.

    Back to the feeling that sucks so bad, it makes you want to jump, cowering and shivering and shaking…
    I feel it. What have I tried to do?
    I don’t mean to be vain, but all I can give is what I found when I prayed for my own guidance.
    I have to meet the feeling of personal insecurity with compassion for those experiencing it, then it is not “I” experiencing it, but “I” am giving warmth and connection and support to those feeling it. In the societal-dominance dynamic, people are used against each other to create great tension by division and social pressure. Then, those group divisions are turned against each other, to kill each other until they are all exhausted and deeply traumatized, and willing to fully submit to power.

    The Will of Love is the opposite of that.
    I am trying to channel the Will of Love, which is to comfort my brothers and sisters who are shivering and cowering alone.
    The power over us will no longer exist, when we comfort and love and accept each other.
    Time will dissolve it.

    Trying To Love

    #80580
    Mr. House
    Participant
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