Jul 282021
 


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CDC Warns Covid-19 May Be A Few Mutations Away From Evading Vaccines (NYP)
Higher COVID Rate Found In Some Counties With Higher Vaccination Rate (CBS)
Booster Vaccines Could Be Offered As Soon As September (NT)
“Zero COVID” Experts Put Grandkids At Risk (ZH)
Unvaccinated Diners Only: California Restaurant (RT)
America, A Nation Which Once Championed Free Speech (Sinclair)
The Price of Conscience – Daniel Hale Sentenced to 45 Months (Chris Hedges)
Biden DOJ Wants Identity Of NoVA Woman’s Employer Kept Secret (Patch)
The Insecurity Industry (Snowden)
Julian Assange Stripped Of Citizenship By Ecuador (G.)

 

 

Does this say that even if a drug will be found to treat COVID19 the contract cannot be voided?!

 

 

 

 

So why would anyone want to get vaccinated now? Why not wait? “You’ll make it worse!” Me? On my own?

CDC Warns Covid-19 May Be A Few Mutations Away From Evading Vaccines (NYP)

COVID-19 may be “just a few mutations” away from being able to evade vaccines, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky warned Tuesday. Walensky said the current vaccines are effective against severe cases of the coronavirus, including those caused by its known variants, but its continuing spread could allow the disease to mutate beyond the immunizations’ protection. “The largest concern that I think we in public health and sciences are worried about is that virus and potential mutations … [have] the potential to evade our vaccine in terms of how it protects us from severe disease and death,” Walensky said at a press briefing.

“Right now, fortunately, we are not there. These vaccines operate really well in protecting us from severe disease and death. But the big concern is the next area that might emerge, just a few mutations potentially away, could potentially evade our vaccines.” The agency chief said the possibility is even more reason for people to get vaccinated — so that the virus can finally be off at the pass before it mutates into something that requires another vaccine. The CDC on Tuesday issued new indoor mask guidelines designed to help slow the spread of the virus in places experiencing surges in cases.

“In areas with substantial and time transmission, CDC recommends fully vaccinated people wear masks in public, indoor settings to help prevent the spread of the Delta variant and protect others,” Walensky said, referring to the highly contagious strain that comprises an estimated 83 percent of new cases nationwide. Health officials have stressed that rising coronavirus case numbers in the US are being driven by unvaccinated Americans. Currently, people who are not vaccinated are responsible for around 99.5 percent of COVID-19 deaths and 97 percent of hospitalizations, officials said.

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CBS Sacramento. The ways the story is “massaged” is a sight to behold.

Higher COVID Rate Found In Some Counties With Higher Vaccination Rate (CBS)

State workers and health care employees will now be required to show proof of vaccine or get tested for COVID at least once a week. The governor announced the new guidance today and is urging private employers to “replicate the example.” This comes as the highly contagious Delta variant is now dominant in the state and COVID rates have skyrocketed in the month since California officially reopened, including breakthrough cases among vaccinated Californians. A new analysis finds several counties with above-average vaccination rates also have higher COVID case rates, while case rates are falling in counties with below-average vaccination rates.

Statewide data analyzed by the Bay Area News Group found five counties, Los Angeles, San Diego, Alameda, Contra Costa, and San Francisco, have both a higher percentage of people who are fully vaccinated than the state average and a higher average daily case rate. Compare that to these five counties: Modoc, Glenn, Lassen, Del Norte, and San Benito, which have below-average vaccination rates and decreasing case rates. However, UCSF infectious disease expert Dr. Phillip Norris clarifies that the data doesn’t mean the vaccine is not working. He notes, first, the counties referenced with higher vaccination and case rates are more densely populated. “If there are a lot of people around you’re more likely to bump into one who has COVID,” Norris explained.

He, like other infectious disease experts, warns that vaccinated people may be unknowingly spreading the virus. Julie: A lot of people think if they’re vaccinated, they can’t transmit. Is that true? Phillip: So, originally we thought that might be true. But he says that’s no longer the case, thanks to the Delta variant. He points to preliminary data from China that indicates the viral load in the nose from the Delta variant may be 1,000 times higher than previous variants. “If that’s the case, even a little bit in somebody who’s vaccinated could be a lot,” he explains.

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Ireland. If I were me, I’d first want to know what’s in those booster shots. Different spike proteins perhaps?

Booster Vaccines Could Be Offered As Soon As September (NT)

A COVID-19 vaccine booster programme could get underway as soon as September, the Health Minister says. Stephen Donnelly says it will be done in conjunction with the flu vaccine, which is usually done in early autumn. It’s believed boosters will be offered first to people at high risk of illness or exposure to COVID-19 – in particular those who were vaccinated early in the rollout. Stephen Donnelly says we’re also likely to see “pop-up” vaccination centres in the coming weeks, to make it as “easy as possible” for young people to get vaccinated. He was speaking after NIAC and the Government gave the green light to extend vaccination to everyone aged 12-15. Around 70% of the adult population is now fully vaccinated against the virus, with nearly 85% having received at least their first dose.


Minister Donnelly told Newstalk Breakfast work is underway to figure out the best way to extend the vaccine programme in the coming weeks. He said: “My priority for some time has been children with underlying conditions. He said teenagers with underlying conditions may be able to book an appointment with their GP. However, it may ultimately be quicker to allow everyone in the age group to register at the same time for appointments in the mass vaccination centres. This weekend will also see the opening of the country’s first walk-in vaccination centres. Minister Donnelly said: “It’s this bank holiday weekend… it’s mRNA vaccines, so Pfizer or Moderna. Anyone over the age of 16… can just walk in.” He said it doesn’t matter if someone has already registered via the vaccine portal – they can still attend the new centre if they haven’t had their first dose yet.

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Zero covid is a thing of the past that hampers effective reactions.

“Zero COVID” Experts Put Grandkids At Risk (ZH)

The need to act on climate change is the fundamental moral imperative of our age, animated by the idea our sacrifices today will save the planet in the future. Yes, energy costs may be higher and some people will lose their jobs, but it’s worth it for the grandkids. Curiously, the grandkids haven’t been given much thought in our response to Covid-19. Our generation has foist extraordinary costs on future generations in a vain attempt to save lives from a disease that is lethal to a few. “The great majority of people … even in their 80s … will survive,” Britain’s chief scientific adviser Chris Whitty said in March last year, before collective psychosis took hold.

“Even in the most vulnerable, oldest groups, in a very stressed health service … the great majority of people who catch the virus – and not everyone will – survive it,” he told a parliamentary committee, having analysed the data from China and Italy. That was true then and it’s true now. Covid-19 was never an existential threat. After 18 months about four million people have died from or with Covid – most of advanced age apart for some tragic exceptions – in a world with a rapidly growing population of almost eight billion people. Sixty million people die every year. But we have behaved like it was, racking up trillions in extra debt and trashing norms of liberal democracy that might not quickly, if ever, return.

The idea that Sydney would be locked down in September 2021 or that American pediatricians would insist anyone over two years old wear a mask outside, to anyone living in February last year would have seemed ridiculous. Yet both, seemingly, are true. On this trend, silencing different scientific opinions or mandating individual tracking devices, all in the name of “saving lives”, may no longer be considered far-fetched. At the end of 2019 the federal budget papers forecast net debt of $361bn by June 2023. The latest budget papers forecast $835bn for the same period, rising to $980bn by mid-2025. Put another way, by 2030 the government’s gross debt burden is forecast to be more than 51 per cent of GDP, compared with 15 per cent forecast in 2019, according to the Intergenerational Report released last month.

By 2060, interest payments on federal debt will have doubled as a share of the economy, if interest rates start to return to more normal levels, it forecasts. A warmer planet won’t be the only burden we’re leaving for the grandkids. Future taxes will need to be higher, and expenditures on other goods and services lower, commensurately, than they otherwise would have been. We will have fewer resources to invest in cancer and dementia research, for example, much greater threats to welfare than Covid-19. “The Covid-19 pandemic and associated containment measures, however, have profoundly affected Australian society and the economy, and are likely to shape the future in ways that are not yet apparent,” the Intergenerational Report says. Who would have foreseen, for instance, a surge in babies being admitted to hospital in New Zealand for an “immunity debt” potentially caused by the government’s closed border policy?

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Of course not, or it would be no fun:

“An employee told the Los Angeles Times that the restaurant is not actually checking patrons’ vaccine status.”

Unvaccinated Diners Only: California Restaurant (RT)

A California restaurant has refused to back down after being bombarded with negative press and customer reviews for posting a sign demanding that all diners provide proof that they have not been vaccinated against Covid-19. With vaccination status increasingly becoming a prerequisite to participate in many ordinary activities, one Huntington Beach eatery has decided to take a slightly different approach to granting privileges based on personal medical decisions. On its storefront window, Basilico’s Pasta e Vino taped a sign reading: “PROOF OF BEING UNVACCINATED REQUIRED. We have zero tolerance for treasonous, anti-American stupidity. Thank you for pondering.”

The restaurant’s owner, Tony Roman, said that the unorthodox policy is designed to get people thinking as some Southern California businesses begin asking customers for proof of vaccination. “With the new and aggressive push for mandatory vax policies, we couldn’t resist, so we are sending a message of our own. Hopefully most are smart enough to read between the lines. Otherwise we will just sit back and have fun watching their heads explode over it,” Roman said in a statement to local media. An employee told the Los Angeles Times that the restaurant is not actually checking patrons’ vaccine status. The restaurant previously declared itself a mask-free zone and refused to shut its doors when eateries were ordered in March 2020 to curtail indoor dining as part of Covid restrictions.

Some appear to appreciate the intended message behind the odd measure. A vaccinated woman who cuts hair at a nearby barbershop told local media that she didn’t feel slighted by the no-vaxxed-allowed policy. “You got other places that want you vaccinated to come in. No different, right?” she noted to a local ABC affiliate. However, many others were furious over the move. The restaurant has been pelted with negative reviews on Yelp. One comment said that the provocative rule was a “slap in the face to all those who died from Covid-19.”

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Good idea, so-so rendition:

America, A Nation Which Once Championed Free Speech (Sinclair)

The elites of Silicon Valley, Wall Street, and Capitol Hill act as the true overlords of Western thought, guarding the borders of allowable speech. How on earth did we allow this to happen – and what can be done now? America has changed beyond recognition over the past few years, and performed a rather rapid about-face on the issue of free speech, a notion it once championed. The source of this is no longer merely the apparatus of Silicon Valley and its desire to control information flows (which it is meant to merely shepherd without bias). The same pressure has come from the superstate structure of America itself, particularly (and ironically) the politically ‘liberal’ faction, as well as from an overarching pressure from the consumer interests of Western-backed global finance.

There appears to be a mass consensus among American money-powers (and thereby state powers) to tightly control information, and to abandon utterly their so recently lauded values of free speech. The FBI in particular has seemingly transitioned into an institution of speech-referees and political oppressors, on guard primarily against America’s own citizens. Ironically, this has not halted America’s saber-rattling about political and informational oppressions from its geopolitical rivals in the east, which find themselves in the reverse role of shocked concern at the willingness of the American superstate to silence its political and moral enemies. Even to the extent of performing show trials.

[..] Facebook has led an initiative to officially create ‘snitches’ among its users, creating their own ‘social credit scheme’, along the lines of China’s. Again, in an act of unbridled obliviousness to the utter reversal of values they held as core only a few scant years ago, and while complaining out of the corner of their mouths about a Chinese variation of the same system. The nation which championed ‘free speech’ will now ban you from the public space and force you out of your job for the crime of ‘misgendering’. Among those who support the hard turn away from free speech, you will find devoted imbibers of neoliberal media, (CNN, MSNBC, BBC, NYT, etc). It is possibly here where you will find these attitudes are ‘created’ before being disseminated downstream among the elites of Silicon Valley, Wall Street, and Capitol Hill.

Once in consensus with the latest media buzzwords, these three may be considered part of a closed feedback loop. From there the true overlords of Western thought are those newly emerged sentinels who guard the borders of allowable speech. Today American citizens are tracked, monitored, and generally threatened more than ever before. Even my writing of this article, what would have been considered an innocuous expression of free political criticism only five or so years ago, might today be considered controversial to the new ‘American Stasi’. We in the West now live behind what we might call a new ‘iron curtain’ – and for those living behind this curtain, there is no longer any illusion of free speech, it is simply no longer talked about.

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Hale was caught because the Intercept got involved.

The Price of Conscience – Daniel Hale Sentenced to 45 Months (Chris Hedges)

Daniel Hale, a former intelligence analyst in the drone program for the Air Force who as a private contractor in 2013 leaked some 17 classified documents about drone strikes to the press, was sentenced Tuesday to 45 months in prison. The documents, published by The Intercept on October 15, 2015, exposed that between January 2012 and February 2013, U.S. special operations airstrikes killed more than 200 people. Of those, only 35 were the intended targets. For one five-month period of the operation, according to the documents, nearly 90 percent of the people killed in airstrikes were not the intended targets. The civilian dead, usually innocent bystanders, were routinely classified as “enemies killed in action.”

The Justice Department coerced Hale, who was deployed to Afghanistan in 2012, on March 31 to plead guilty to one count of violating the Espionage Act, a law passed in 1917 designed to prosecute those who passed on state secrets to a hostile power, not those who expose to the public government lies and crimes. Hale admitted as part of the plea deal to “retention and transmission of national security information” and leaking 11 classified documents to a journalist. If he had refused the plea deal, he could have spent 50 years in prison. The sentencing of Hale is one more potentially mortal blow to the freedom of the press. It follows in the wake of the prosecutions and imprisonment of other whistleblowers under the Espionage Act including Chelsea Manning, Jeffrey Sterling, Thomas Drake and John Kiriakou, who spent two-and-a-half years in prison for exposing the routine torture of suspects held in black sites.


Those charged under the act are treated as if they were spies. They are barred from explaining motivations and intent to the court. They cannot provide evidence to the court of the government lawlessness and war crimes they exposed. Prominent human rights organizations, such as the ACLU and PEN, along with mainstream publications, such as The New York Times and CNN, have largely remained silent about the prosecution of Hale. The group Stand with Daniel Hale has called on President Biden to pardon Hale and end the use of the Espionage Act to punish whistleblowers. It is also collecting donations for Hale’s legal fund. The bipartisan onslaught against the press — Barack Obama used the Espionage Act eight times against whistleblowers, more than all other previous administrations combined — by criminalizing those within the system who seek to inform the public is ominous for our democracy. It is effectively extinguishing all investigations into the inner workings of power.

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US woman kills someone on UK motorway, her fault, flees the country. US calls diplomatic immunity of sorts, no extradition. The US attorney who makes that case happens to be the same who tries hard to get Assange extradited the other way around.

Biden DOJ Wants Identity Of NoVA Woman’s Employer Kept Secret (Patch)

Radd Seiger, adviser and spokesperson for the Dunn family, said in a statement Monday that “as any parent might imagine, losing a child is the worst thing that can happen to you.” “But having to deal with the U.S. Government’s abuse and denial of justice as Harry’s family have had to since he died is unprecedented for us here in the U.K.,” he said. “Their conduct is and continues to be frankly unAmerican and against the core values of decency and compassion that we know most Americans hold dear to their hearts, including those who work for the intelligence agencies, many of whom have come forward to us privately to tell us how ashamed they are of their employer.”

Among the Justice Department officials who signed the motion for a protective order was Raj Parekh, acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia and an appointee of the Biden administration. In an ironic twist, Parekh supervises hundreds of Justice Department attorneys, including many who are seeking the extradition of foreign nationals to the United States. The most prominent case currently under Parekh’s direction is the U.S. government’s attempt to extradite WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange, an Australian citizen, from the U.K. to the United States to face charges under the U.S. Espionage Act of 1917. David Davis, a Conservative member of the U.K. Parliament, wrote in an op-ed on Saturday that his government appears to have a one-sided relationship with the United States on the issue of extradition.

“[T]he UK is one of most amenable nations in the world to the surrender of its citizens to overseas courts — but we do not insist on corresponding arrangements with other governments,” Davis wrote in his July 24 column for the Daily Mail. [..] Sacoolas is scheduled to be deposed by the Dunn family’s lawyers on Aug. 24 as part of the lawsuit against her and her husband. Dunn’s parents were deposed in the civil proceeding in early July. At Sacoolas’s deposition, “she will be questioned regarding her activity as she drove from the base to the accident scene, and Plaintiffs are deeply concerned that the Government’s motion will needlessly thwart a legitimate inquiry on this and other relevant subjects,” the Dunn family lawyers wrote in their court filing on Monday. Seiger, the spokesperson for the Dunn family, said the July 23 motion filed by the Justice Department “is not an attempt to protect state secrets or national security.” “It is an attempt to keep Harry’s family from the truth and minimize what happened to him,” he said.

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“The first thing I do when I get a new phone is take it apart.”

The Insecurity Industry (Snowden)

The first thing I do when I get a new phone is take it apart. I don’t do this to satisfy a tinkerer’s urge, or out of political principle, but simply because it is unsafe to operate. Fixing the hardware, which is to say surgically removing the two or three tiny microphones hidden inside, is only the first step of an arduous process, and yet even after days of these DIY security improvements, my smartphone will remain the most dangerous item I possess. Prior to this week’s Pegasus Project, a global reporting effort by major newspapers to expose the fatal consequences of the NSO Group—the new private-sector face of an out-of-control Insecurity Industry—most smartphone manufacturers along with much of the world press collectively rolled their eyes at me whenever I publicly identified a fresh-out-of-the-box iPhone as a potentially lethal threat.

Despite years of reporting that implicated the NSO Group’s for-profit hacking of phones in the deaths and detentions of journalists and human rights defenders; despite years of reporting that smartphone operating systems were riddled with catastrophic security flaws (a circumstance aggravated by their code having been written in aging programming languages that have long been regarded as unsafe); and despite years of reporting that even when everything works as intended, the mobile ecosystem is a dystopian hellscape of end-user monitoring and outright end-user manipulation, it is still hard for many people to accept that something that feels good may not in fact be good. Over the last eight years I’ve often felt like someone trying to convince their one friend who refuses to grow up to quit smoking and cut back on the booze—meanwhile, the magazine ads still say “Nine of Ten Doctors Smoke iPhones!” and “Unsecured Mobile Browsing is Refreshing!”

In my infinite optimism, however, I can’t help but regard the arrival of the Pegasus Project as a turning-point—a well-researched, exhaustively-sourced, and frankly crazy-making story about a “winged” “Trojan Horse” infection named “Pegasus” that basically turns the phone in your pocket into an all-powerful tracking device that can be turned on or off, remotely, unbeknownst to you, the pocket’s owner.


The microphones inside my actual phone, prepped for surgery

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Officially stateless now? Nice. What says Australia?

Julian Assange Stripped Of Citizenship By Ecuador (G.)

Ecuador has revoked the citizenship of Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks who is currently in a British prison. Ecuador’s justice system formally notified the Australian of the nullity of his naturalisation in a letter that came in response to a claim filed by the South American country’s foreign ministry. A naturalisation is reconsidered when it is granted based on the concealment of relevant facts, false documents or fraud. Ecuadorian authorities said Assange’s naturalisation letter had multiple inconsistencies, different signatures, the possible alteration of documents and unpaid fees, among other issues. Carlos Poveda, Assange’s lawyer, said the decision was made without due process and Assange was not allowed to appear in the case.


“On the date [Assange] was cited he was deprived of his liberty and with a health crisis inside the deprivation of liberty centre where he was being held,” Poveda said. Poveda said he will file appeals asking for an amplification and clarification of the decision. “More than the importance of nationality, it is a matter of respecting rights and following due process in withdrawing nationality.” Assange received Ecuadorian citizenship in January 2018 as part of a failed attempt by the government of then-President Lenín Moreno to turn him into a diplomat to get him out of its embassy in London. On Monday, the Pichincha court for contentious administrative matters revoked this decision. Ecuador’s foreign ministry said the court had “acted independently and followed due process in a case that took place during the previous government and that was raised by the same previous government”.

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    Blu Mural Rome, 2015 (click for more)   • CDC Warns Covid-19 May Be A Few Mutations Away From Evading Vaccines (NYP) • Higher COVID Rate Found In
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle July 28 2021]

    #81198
    V. Arnold
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    Blu Mural Rome, 2015 (click for more)

    Very tripy…I like it a lot…I clicked for more…

    #81199
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    I’m not much pleased with the recent turn of events here…
    It seems we’ve been hijacked by a cult of personality of late…
    Fewer and fewer posts reflect the subject matter of the TAE’s daily postings…

    #81200
    Basseterre Kitona
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    Not sure why I didn’t catch this earlier, but how often are we conflating the disease (Covid) with the virus (corona virus or SARS-cov-2)?

    Consider it in the context of the Pfizer/Biontech trial data from last year. This numbers might be slightly inaccurate but as I understand it, 8 out of 21,000 (0.04%) participants that received the trial injection developed symptoms compared to 160 out of 21,000 (0.76%) in the control group who received a placebo. In other words, the Relative Risk Reduction was calculated at 95%—this was the number touted all over the place—by comparing the 8 participants with 160. 8 of 160 equals 5% thus the 95% effective number.

    But I always found it curious that within the control group, 99.24% of the participants with the placebo still managed to avoid infection. The experts sometimes (but rarely) explain another interpretation of the data as the Absolute Risk Reduction method. This way, one compares the 99.24% of the control group without symptoms to the 99.96% with the injection without symptoms and concludes that the absolute risk reduction is about 1% if we round up from 0.72% difference between 99.96% and 99.24%.

    Now if we can to go a step further using anecdotal evidence (such as the numbers from the Diamond Princess cruise ship) and work with the assumption that roughly 80% of the population has strong enough immune systems to fight off the virus without ever becoming infected at all—that is, eliminate 80% of the 21,000 participants in each of the trial groups which will improve the performance of the mRNA injection in terms of the Absolute Risk Reduction—then the number improves from about 1% effective to abut 4% effective.

    But back to my original post about conflating the disease with the virus…given the trial data, as the injection reduces symptoms, it might be accurate to say that the mRNA treatment is 95% effective in preventing the disease Covid but it also appears to only be 1–4% effective in actually preventing the spread of the virus sars-cov-2.

    That probably explains why there are so many “breakthrough” cases appearing now. From the beginning, Pfizer never claimed that their injection stopped viral transmission only that it reduced symptoms and severity of the Covid disease. But how many people would have taken the injection had they understood that nuance? Especially, it the reality that the “vaccine” was only about 1–4% effective in stopping the transmission of the corona virus itself?

    Of course, as just an amateur, I could be totally wrong in my interpretation and I welcome the scrutiny of this community. But I felt that it was a different perspective that was worthy of consideration nonetheless.

    #81201
    Basseterre Kitona
    Participant

    I forgot one more thing to consider:

    What if instead of talking about the disease/virus as Covid/sars-cov-2, we were talking about Aids/HIV ?

    What would people make of an injection that is 95% effective in reducing the disease Aids but only about 1–4% effective in preventing an HIV infection? Likely, they’d consider it a very good thing but would probably be questioning whether it can really be called a “vaccine” if it doesn’t prevent infection at all.

    Which ties into my original point of the conflation of the disease and the virus. Seems that everybody (medical establishment, journalists, and public) has a much stronger understanding of the difference between Hiv and Aids but that this is conspicuously lacking in the current Covid/sars-cov-2 discussion.

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    oxymoron
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    The numbers and perspective you just presented give me a lot to mull over and I thank you for it Basseterre Kitona.

    On a tangent here but since the walls have felt like they are closing in a little with more news like this – https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/school-life/year-12s-to-get-pfizer-vaccine-within-weeks-as-they-return-to-classrooms/news-story/d4ed5e09889f0831bc02f4ad723cb0b6

    ie you can’t finish school in the largest city in Oz if you are not jabbed – (let’s hold their future to ransom)

    I thought a few minutes with a hairy wise guy is worth anyones time.

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    Dr. D
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    “Biden: If U.S. has ‘real shooting war’ it could be result of cyber attacks.”

    Of course he didn’t really say that. He said something like, “Strawberries on my leg and hairs and, man, you know the thing,” but this is setting the stage for their New, Improved, WWIII! Now with more lies.™

    So: Masks = riots. Got it. Women in draft readying for WWIII, got it. They are going to fabricate a fake attack and blame it on someone, as ye olde “cybers” have ZERO evidence normal humans can prove, got it. That someone is probably or essentially Russia, got it. This is all in “Cyber Pandemic” oxymoron, and “Cyber Polygon ’20”, with a printed road map everyone will deny happened just a few hours later, got it. This is going to cut off supply chains and therefore cover the obvious, predictable inflation and collapse of work due to paying people UBI like in Soviet Russia? Got it.

    All systems go. Launch codes ready. …I wonder what their specific event will be. Clearly the election audit as they purged all 5(?) state audits. It’s a conspiracy theory when official state governmental committees make official government releases, ya know. Chad at Twitter said so, and he’s your doctor, so…

    “Arizona Senate Issues Fresh Subpoena For 2020 Election Audit”

    Speaking of. Well they just HAD to do this because they didn’t arrest everybody for ignoring the LAST subpoena. Cuz Law and Order and they’re just super-serial. Fightin’ for you! Not a scam at all!™

    Other world wars going on? DiAngelo of CRT fame has declared a Leftist war on Comedy. No joke! …So to speak. Yes, when you’re the one masked, wearing black, beating Jews and gay Asians in the streets, burning books, gettin’ rich, supporting billionaires and MNC’s, supporting imperial wars worldwide, cooing over the FBI, CIA, and State apparatus, burn cities, harass juries, kill 55 people, and erase sports, movies, culture, and now comedy, are you the baddies?

    Nah, when you’re on the side of the angels, all your thoughts and actions are therefore ALSO on the side of the angels. Like the 21st century version of Calvanism. God has ordained you, therefore all that you do is consequently good. That’s what being ordained by god means, duh! And the religion of racism rides again.

    That’s okay. Us heathens will just laugh and make fun of them. Comedy hasn’t been killed yet.

    And every day it seems more apparent that the point is to dissolve reason altogether and replace with obedience, that’s why they WANT the hourly CDC contradictions. It’s not them being sloppy or dumb, it’s textbook abuse to break people down — ask Johnstone. Could not possibly be more obvious or predictable. Want the beatings to stop? Do whatever I say whenever I say it. And in a nation that has grown up widely abused in the first place, they are very soft to that tactic. As well planned decades before and installed primarily in the school system, just like the 30s and the Russian Revolution. Of course they’ll still strangle you later and kill you by the millions anyway if you do, but that they’ll rape you and your kids is not the sales pitch for abusers.

    World Food Production ’70: Yes, because that wasn’t their prediction, it was their PLAN. It wasn’t? Then why did these exact same people spend the last 50 years paving all farmland, wasting food, destroying reservoirs, erasing trains and razing silos, stopping seeds, and poisoning the soil? You’re telling me now they have the power to fix this, but in 1970 with all that time, they didn’t? After we have widespread quotes from Environmentalists that they had to fabricate a crisis to get public support? Uh-huh.

    “CDC Warns Covid-19 May Be a Few Mutations Away from Evading Vaccines (NYP)”

    And? This is true of every virus, ever, at all times. And yet it never happens. Is it budget season again?

    “Higher COVID Rate Found in Some Counties with Higher Vaccination Rate (CBS)”

    They’re in a hurry because this is already breaking through. “This” being their abysmal failure.

    “Booster Vaccines Could Be Offered as Soon as September (NT)”

    Vaccines don’t work. Do I need that polio booster? Every 6 months for 50 years? Why not? Because they’re not vaccines?

    “The elites of Silicon Valley, Wall Street, and Capitol Hill act as the true overlords of Western thought”

    A better description of Neo-Feudalism could not be devised. Unelected, undeserving, universally corrupt, mostly violent rich guys now have the open authority to tell everyone what to do. If you meet them on the road, you must bow or die. “Who you are not allowed to criticize”

    “Daniel Hale Sentenced to 45 Months (Chris Hedges)”

    Yes, we’ve known the Intercept was a captured operation from the get-go. They conned on the back of Greenwald, who is not a businessman and they more or less had control from the first months. Probably the same with Assange, but he double-crossed them and went honest, that’s why they’re so mad.

    US attorney happens to be the same who tries hard to get Assange extradited the other way around.”

    There is no law but power. There is no reason by power. This is their world. This is what happens when there is no objective reality, no God’s world. The door is open, you can go back and join the Logos if you’re done now.

    Don’t worry, V., there are now 100 posts regularly, so all the old stuff is here, just with more stuff on top. I feel the character may have changed to be more personal, maybe that’s the turn of the times, personal and spiritual as using facts and politics for example was having no effect at all.

    #81204
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ Dr. D
    LOL…
    Thanks…

    #81205
    oxymoron
    Participant

    I quit working for educated lefties who own multiple properties. It was bumming me out how they were always asking my vax status and offering free science info while I worked in the dirt for them.

    I started working for a farmer this week. We eat lunch by the river under the huge River Red gum trees and I come home dirty, wind-blown and a little exhausted.

    It feels more real.

    I asked him about how he felt about the craziness of our times. He replied that he had worked out sometime ago when he was a painter that the whole world was mad and if he bought some land and re-planted a good chunk of it with trees and kept some cows to pay the bills then that was enough. One day his grandkids kids would be playing under those trees or at least someone would cut them down for some purpose and be glad they were there. He would have been part of that.

    It is just how I feel.
    I think we will work together for a while…

    #81207

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    #81208
    zerosum
    Participant

    Reminder

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_threes_(survival)
    In survival, the rule of threes involves the priorities in order to survive.[1][2][3] The rule, depending on the place where one lives, allow people to effectively prepare for emergencies[4] and determine decision-making in case of injury or danger posed by the environment.[5]

    Rule
    Normally, the rule of threes contains the following:

    You can survive three minutes without breathable air (unconsciousness) generally with protection, or in icy water.
    You can survive three hours in a harsh environment (extreme heat or cold).
    You can survive three days without drinkable water.
    You can survive three weeks without food.
    Each line assumes that the one(s) before it are met. For example, if you have a large quantity of food and water yet are exposed to the environment, then the harsh conditions rule applies. The rule may be useful in determining the order of priority when in a life-threatening situation, and is a generalization (or rule of thumb) rather than scientifically accurate.[6]

    Additional generalizations may be presented with the rule, though they are not typically considered part of the “Rule of threes.” For example, it might be said that it takes a three-second psychological reaction time to make a decision during an emergency,[1] or that an individual can last three months without companionship or hope.
    ————-

    A Dire Evolutionary Timeline by ‘Blu’ on the Streets of Italy


    A Dire Evolutionary Timeline by ‘Blu’ on the Streets of Italy

    We are into a a new situation with a pandemic.

    How long can you survive with or without a vaccine?

    “Pandemic of the unvacinated”

    Survivors of covid are going to have natural immunity and be part of the “herd immunity” survivors.

    Vaccinate people will get “breakthrough covid”.

    In the USA, Most people who have certain conditions will get covid and die more than other people.

    Some of those conditions are old age, obese, overweight, diabetic, heart condition, blood clots poor immune system. etc. (over 60% of people have conditions)

    People with those conditions will also get “vaccine breakthrough” and die more than other grouping of people.

    In many places those that have been vaccinated is over 60%
    In most age grouping those that have been vaccinated is over 60%

    Therefore, herd immunity will be reached AFTER 60% of the people have died

    Therefore, using an expanded “rule of three”

    You can survive three months without …… “herd immunity”

    You can survive three years without …… preparation

    #81209
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ Oxymoron

    Happy for you, I am. (big Yoda smile)

    #81210
    absolute galore
    Participant

    It’s not a secret plan, it’s the vast quantities of energy combined with the regular list of human follies. And, as Kunstler likes to summarize his theory of history, “It seemed like a good idea at the time.”

    As far as continuing to believe that more vaccinated citizens is the answer, even if it were true, it simply is not possible. Check out how many countries on this list are below 10% and then contemplate how many U.S. citizens fly there to manage the fast fashion factories alone.
    Tracking Covid-19 vaccinations worldwide

    “The bureaucratic management of human survival is
    unacceptable on both ethical and political grounds. It would also
    be as futile as former attempts at mass therapy. This does not, of
    course, mean that a majority might not at first submit to it. People
    could be so frightened by the increasing evidence of growing
    population and dwindling resources that they would voluntarily
    put their destiny into the hands of Big Brothers…

    Man would live in a plastic bubble that would protect his
    survival and make it increasingly worthless. Since man’s tolerance
    would become the most serious limitation to growth, the
    alchemist’s endeavor would be renewed in the attempt to produce
    a monstrous type of man fit to live among reason’s dreams. A
    major function of engineering would become the psychogenetic
    tooling of man himself as a condition for further growth. People
    would be confined from birth to death in a world-wide
    schoolhouse, treated in a world-wide hospital, surrounded by
    television screens, and the man-made environment would be
    distinguishable in name only from a world-wide priso
    n…”

    Tools For Conviviality, Chapter V, Political Inversion –Ivan Illich 1973 (Note: Link will download a pdf of TFC)

    #81213
    madamski cafone
    Participant
    #81214
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The so-called “Davos Crowd” (oligarchs, Global Elites, Illuminatti Lizard Lords, whateveryawannacallits) drastic plans and efforts to change practically everything should be recognized as their insider’s view of how well they think their current system of wealth, power and control is running. Not so good, I think. They would see no compelling reason to fuck with success and change it all if they saw the existing system (THEIR chosen system) lasting very much longer. It’s a sort of inadvertant confession of total failure and expectation of impending collapse.
    Their “suggestions” about what we should all do next is also a confession of sorts. It is their estimation of what they think it would take in order for them to go on being in charge and actually running the show for their own benefit. They’re the ones who have the experience of having and using power, so they should know. Please notice how drastically literally everything would have to be re-aligned, reassigned and redfined . . . just for them to remain at the helm and not be annihilated . Do YOU think 7.5 billion people can change that much in available amount of time ? Maybe with a Sci Fi level genetic re-coding . . . the extra special fast acting kind. Otherwise nope. I’m fairly sure we’re safe on that count for a little while longer.
    Frankly, I’m pretty sure that they are right about the collapse and right again about what it would take for them to remain in charge, and totally fucking delusional about the whole world changing that much that fast without disintegrating into hot bits and pieces like an obsolete satelite re-entering the atmosphere . Physics wins. Delusion ends in a fiery disintegration. And folks on the ground go back to the business of getting through this day and planning for the next.
    I ain’t saying those megalomaniacs are not homicidal lunatics, nor suggesting that you should do nothing about them to protect yourself. What I’m saying is that they SHALL fail, are failing now, at an increasingly spectacularl rate, and advise you to not be in in the debris zone as they fall. That ain’t easy, I know, because we’re in a bit of a pickle, aren’t we ? We are ALL caught in what I call a “Truth Trap/Lie Trap” . If the lies are exposed and the truth comes out then they are toast. But if the lies prevail then WE are. It’s a life & death , existential, sort of fight. Best avoided. But once it gets started (like now) then Katie bar the door.
    So, yeah, it’s pretty serious . . . but I thought it worth reminding y’all that the Bad Guys (who as insiders have a much less obstructed view of the numbers and battle plans) see themselves as losing. Gotta agree with ’em on that point, at least. See? It’s possible to find common ground in ANY argument.

    #81215
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    fwiw, I’ve had this Geert Van Den Bossche covid paper on my FB page since early yesterday morning PST time and no censors have knocked on my door yet.

    But hardly anyone reads my FB posts, I’m sure, so the ‘bots have probably flagged my account for closer observation.

    (Someone expressed concern that Bossche was a “mole”. It’s an excellent suspicion, but I think Bossche is genuine. His work is too precise, imo, for the mainstream minions we’ve seen touting the official narrative.)

    #81216

    It appears that it does, indeed, assure that the EUA will not be withdrawn. And “urgent needs for prevention of the spread” implies a reference to the injection, but doesn’t say it outright as it does no such thing.
    Isn’t this genuine fascism? Business meshes with the State to force the consumer into a nightmare of marketing. You will use this product. You will say you love this product. It’s the law.
    So what if it may be useless or even deadly?

    VA- I have seen it happen on dozens of websites. Turley’s comes to mind- there, it got ugly and he revamped the site. Yes, you can scroll through the posts you wish to ignore, but the hijacking employs the most common of mind-control tactics: oh- did you forget what you were going to say (or do)?

    Bless those Russians! How sad that when it appeared we could have become friends, Hillary had a hissy-fit and set the Cold War back in motion. (Yeah, she had lots of help.)

    We can hardly be unhappy about our chains when we could leave them at home.
    I have a suspicion that many people don’t believe anything unless they see it on a screen. “Real life” is dying.
    I never got a smart-phone (now that’s an oxymoron!)* I wouldn’t know how to use one if you put it in my hand. They are time sinks. They force people to endlessly learn useless things. They are the center of incivility. And without them we would not now be facing TEOTWAWKI.
    Communications Revolutions change civilizations more than anything else.

    *I have an ancient flip phone I keep in the car in the winter and on the boat in the summer. Support for it ends in a month or so.

    #81217
    John Day
    Participant

    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/07/quite-contrary.html (picture of my daughter the doctor and bike)
    I’ve got a conceptual simplification that helps clarify the confusion in the information feeds we are fire-hosed with these days.
    Look at the opposite, and see if things make more sense if the opposite is true.

    New York mandates that nursing homes accept patients sick with COVID, but not dying, to free up the hospitals to “Save Lives”.
    The actions taken make perfect sense in the context of wanting to kill a lot of useless-old-has-beens in the first wave of a mass cull.

    Let’s look at everything purported to “Save Lives” as a way to kill-people, and see if that makes sense going forward.

    From the UK, where they kept switching back and forth between various plans as the virus seemed to go about it’s daily business, but where they did not give anybody high dose vitamin-D, though they were the country that pioneered its use for rickets.
    ​ ​The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) has issued advice to Sajid Javid’s Department of Health and Social Care, stating that children with disabilities should be offered a Covid-19 vaccine, despite the fact real world data shows that children as young as two-months-old in the USA have suffered paralysis, cardiac arrest and death after being given one of the experimental jabs.

    Paralysis, Cardiac Arrest, Death – All of these are adverse reactions to the Covid-19 vaccines suffered by infants as young as two-months-old

    ​ I’d like to call this conceptual tool “Occam’s Switchblade”, because it strikes me as apt, colorful and memorable.​

    This says they found spike protein actively circulating in the blood of all 6 mRNA “vaccinated” persons (Pfizer and Moderna) 5 months after they were vaccinated.
    ​ ​Robert Malone has said you need to measure duration, distribution, and amount for the spike protein. FDA never did this; one of our researchers did. They found spike protein is still circulating 5 months from vaccination in 100% of patients tested (6 people; random pick).​
    Robert Malone MD bio: ​https://www.rwmalonemd.com/about-us
    ​ ​I​ just saw this today, and I sure would like to see verification.corroboration of the report, but it’s important enough to think about right now. ​
    If spike protein keeps being made and circulating without cessation, what are the effects of keeping a foreign protein that is aggressively caustic to the blood vessel linings, and causes clotting, in your bloodstream for months, years, the rest of your life?
    This is a lot easier to make sense of if the intent is to cull, rather than save a whole bunch of folks.
    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1419713123787808812?refresh=1627326570

    Dr. Fauci Insists CDC “Didn’t Flip Flop” As He Tries To Shift Focus To Children
    ​(​I think he means to say that ​”​vaccines AND masks work great, so use ​BOTH​​, and UN-vaccinated people spread new COVID variants​”)​
    “The data are clear … that when a person gets infected who has been vaccinated … and they get infected with the Delta variant, that the level of virus in their nasopharynx is about 1,000 times higher than with the Alpha variant.”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/dr-fauci-insists-cdc-didnt-flip-flop-something-has-changed

    #81218
    John Day
    Participant

    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/07/quite-contrary.html
    Look at this mistake a whole lot of experts made. The statistical flag for detecting an excess of adverse events for the mRNA vaccines acts as a burial carpet for adverse events, the very opposite of a warning flag.
    Danger, “Maths” and sadistics. Thanks Marjorie.
    Defining Away Vaccine Safety Signals
    ​ ​If my understanding of this situation is correct, the mass vaccination program should be immediately halted until the safety data is gathered, cleaned, and examined. We cannot tolerate a misleading statement of “vaccines are safe and effective” in the face of regulatory agencies defining away the responsibility of performing the risk analysis needed to verify safety. The CDC leadership should be immediately replaced and investigated, and independent analysts should reformulate the task of tracking vaccine safety results.
    https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/defining-away-vaccine-safety-signals

    ​ Another ivermectin meta-analysis shows what the ivermectin papers I have looked at since last summer show. Ivermectin reduces viral load, reduces symptoms of illness, reduces hospitalizations when given early, and reduces deaths, when given at any stage of illness.
    ​ ​Ivermectin is an antiparasitic drug being investigated for repurposing against SARS-CoV-2. Ivermectin showed in-vitro activity against SARS-COV-2 at high concentrations. This meta-analysis investigated ivermectin in 24 randomized clinical trials (3328 patients) identified through systematic searches of PUBMED, EMBASE, MedRxiv and trial registries. Ivermectin was associated with reduced inflammatory markers (C-Reactive Protein, d-dimer and ferritin) and faster viral clearance by PCR. Viral clearance was treatment dose- and duration-dependent. In 11 randomized trials of moderate/severe infection, there was a 56% reduction in mortality (Relative Risk 0.44 [95%CI 0.25-0.77]; p=0.004; 35/1064 (3%) deaths on ivermectin; 93/1063 (9%) deaths in controls) with favorable clinical recovery and reduced hospitalization.
    https://academic.oup.com/ofid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/ofid/ofab358/6316214#

    ​India used a lot of ivermectin, but not everywhere. Uttar Pradesh started earliest and did the best. Ivermectin users still develop broad immunity to COVID.
    The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) has released the results of its fourth seroprevalence study which was conducted across 21 states in June and July with 36,227 people participating, including 7,252 healthcare workers. It found that 67.6 percent of people over six years of age, some two-thirds of India’s population, have Sars-CoV-2 antibodies.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/two-thirds-indians-have-been-exposed-covid-19

    #81219
    John Day
    Participant

    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/07/quite-contrary.html
    ​Chris Hedges, Thanks Dan. The Collective Suicide Machine
    The return of the Taliban to power will be one more signpost of the end of the American empire — and nobody will be held accountable.​ ​
    ​ ​Historians call the self-defeating military adventurism of late empires “micro-militarism.” During the Peloponnesian War (431-404 B.C.) the Athenians invaded Sicily, suffering the loss of 200 ships and thousands of soldiers and triggering revolts throughout the empire. Britain attacked Egypt in 1956 in a dispute over the nationalization of the Suez Canal and was humiliated when it had to withdraw its forces, bolstering the status of Arab nationalists such as Egypt’s Gamal Abdel Nasser.
    ​ ​“While rising empires are often judicious, even rational in their application of armed force for conquest and control of overseas dominions, fading empires are inclined to ill-considered displays of power, dreaming of bold military masterstrokes that would somehow recoup lost prestige and power,” the historian Alfred McCoy writes “In the Shadows of the American Century: The Rise and Decline of US Global Power.” “Often irrational even from an imperial point of view, these micromilitary operations can yield hemorrhaging expenditures or humiliating defeats that only accelerate the process already under way.”
    ​ ​The death blow to the American empire will, as McCoy writes, be the loss of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. This loss will plunge the United States into a crippling, and prolonged depression.

    Hedges: The Collective Suicide Machine

    ​Charles Hugh Smith also says the hurt is about to arrive.​
    ​ ​I have long made the case that manufacturing, energy and food are all fundamentally national security issues. Those benefiting from “free trade” (there is no such thing, that’s just a handy PR cover) have sold the unwary the fraudulent notion that “everyone benefits” from globalization. Nothing could be further from reality. A handful of corporate insiders and financiers have benefited at the expense of everyone else.
    ​ ​And now the chickens are coming home to roost. Essential parts and feedstocks become unavailable for all sorts of flimsy excuses, prices double, triple, then double again, and since we’ve allowed our entire economy to become dependent on a handful of sources for these essentials because that dependency maximized profits, then there are no alternatives.
    ​ ​America has already lost the trade war, but the pain has yet to begin. Corporate America sacrificed national interests in service of greed, and so did the U.S. government. Now it’s too late, and all the good seats at the banquet of consequences have already been taken.
    https://www.oftwominds.com/blogjuly21/trade-war7-21.html

    ​Eleni sends this long Andrew Korybko analysis of the Russian diplomatic engagements with the Muslim world​.
    It is long and completely informative. No wasted words.
    The Geostrategic Challenges of Russia’s Ummah Pivot:
    ​ ​A key component of Russia’s 21st-century grand strategy goal of becoming the supreme balancing force in Eurasia is its “Ummah Pivot” of comprehensive engagement with the Muslim-majority countries to its South, stretching from North Africa to South Asia. This vector of Russian diplomacy is intended to compensate for the recent setbacks in Western Eurasia (Europe) while simultaneously preventing any future disproportionate strategic dependence on Eastern Eurasia (China).
    https://russiancouncil.ru/en/analytics-and-comments/analytics/the-geostrategic-challenges-of-russia-s-ummah-pivot/

    #81220
    John Day
    Participant

    @Upstate NYer: My blog is on a Google platform. The functionlity that keeps addresses of subscribers is something I can access, if I dig down into that, which I never do. Subscriptions are either gone alredy or going away. I am not going somewhere else to pay for this feature, aimed at commercial blogs, advertisers , etc.
    I don’t know if this answers your question about using a dummy Gmail account to comment on my blog.

    #81221

    Okay- maybe it isn’t an oxymoron. (Spellchecker changed that to “oxycontin”!)
    Oxymoron- you paint a lovely picture of real reality.

    #81224

    The MN Dept. of Health just called again. I didn’t pick it up.
    I wonder what they wanted?

    When you want to live for real-
    Try 3D.
    When you want to really feel-
    Try 3D.
    When you want to hug and kiss,
    When you you want to feel true bliss,
    When you want what really matters
    Try 3D.

    #81225
    John Day
    Participant

    I left more comments on Tale of Two Narratives from TAE Summary and the Mysterians.

    #81226
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    “DiAngelo of CRT fame has declared a Leftist war on Comedy. No joke! …So to speak.”

    No worries, ‘cos we’ve got that covered here in Yerp, too. It seems that only far-right extremists can create funny memes and so the EC has its Radicalisation Awareness Network setting out what constitutes humour.

    Memes with Wojak NPC cartoons are deemed not funny, neither is Doge and definitely not Pepe the Frog, this is all subversive and very unfunny humour. New guidelines by RAN will be drawn up to outline what constitutes good humour, for instance a man slipping on a banana skin is very funny provided it is a white, heterosexual man. Anybody else slipping on a banana skin is most certainly not funny at all.

    Read and enjoy https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/networks/radicalisation_awareness_network/ran-papers/far-right-extremists-use-humour-2021_en

    #81227
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ D Benton Smith

    Thank you for sharing that perspective

    #81228
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Here’s a question:

    The Jab causes your cells to make the spike protein, once your cells begin to do this the body creates the antibodies. So essentially the jab is giving you it which shall not be named. It may now be the case that the Jab causes your cells to continue to make the spike proteins indefinitely, and we don’t have data on if this is true because “the science”. So either you take your chances and catch it in the wild, or you trust “the science” and let them infect you with it? Is that the gist of what is going on? Also traditional vaccines were dead viruses that you were injected with that caused your body to make antibodies and being dead viruses your body was much less at risk of having an adverse reaction as opposed to you catching it in the wild. Think about that in regards to what @Johnday stated earlier in a comment.

    #81229
    maryballon
    Participant

    Thank you for the “on topic” comments today.

    I have a complaint about the mural. What it represents is a failure of the imagination. As such it is “cute” but it is hurtful to children and adults. Just because all the stuff that we littered the planet with, falls into the ocean, does not mean that life and the planet end. I think that Caitlin said this a while ago, we need to imagine the next days, years, lifetimes—what happens when the endless junk disappears? We and the planet do not end. Think of this- that for 130 million years dinosaurs lived, ate well and raised families. They disappeared but the planet trundled on.

    I thought of an image like this: We are standing on the grass holding a plastic cup and straw. The oil in the cup is almost gone, we drank it all, so we toss the cup and walk to a well to join the group drawing fresh water for our day. Now how do we get to that point?

    #81230
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Also i think this is an excellent example of TAE summaries narratives at work:

    “Mind you, it was predictable that the “Mission accomplished” would blow up because we and others predicted it, starting with the two biggest nurses unions in the US, both of which condemned the CDC for telling the vaccinated to toss their masks. ”

    Seems a bit snooty

    CDC Reversal on Masks, Vaccinated as Covid Spreaders, While Boosters Look to Be Coming Late and Not Hugely Effective

    #81231
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Exactly as yesterday, DeBlasio says “Voluntary Phase is over” Mandatory vaccine.

    Aside from him being my doctor, and not caring about medicine and science as to whether it’s safe for my chemotherapy session, so it’s voluntary except when it’s not?

    Wow, new definition of ‘voluntary.’ A definition a lot like “mandatory.”

    Raise your hand if you saw this coming in Jan 2020. Nevermind, don’t bother, everybody knewd.

    Bonus: “Vaccine passports are a conspiracy theory.” What’s the difference between reality and conspiracy theory? About nine months.

    #81232
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ John Day

    If spike protein keeps being made and circulating without cessation, what are the effects of keeping a foreign protein that is aggressively caustic to the blood vessel linings, and causes clotting, in your bloodstream for months, years, the rest of your life?
    This is a lot easier to make sense of if the intent is to cull, rather than save a whole bunch of folks.

    I came to this conclusion when I first commented with Germ regarding the spike protein. With cells becoming spike protein factories, given sufficient time this will kill you unless something else kills you first

    #81233
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    It’s a conspiracy theory until we announce that it is mandatory.

    #81234
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Also interesting to note on the NC post, a few commenters noting they’re still having adverse reactions months after the second shot.

    #81235
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ John Day

    Loving your comments like this one:

    Those benefiting from “free trade” (there is no such thing, that’s just a handy PR cover) have sold the unwary the fraudulent notion that “everyone benefits” from globalization. Nothing could be further from reality. A handful of corporate insiders and financiers have benefited at the expense of everyone else.

    #81236
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Can somebody define on/off-topic? Asking for a friend named Sun Tzu.

    #81238
    those darned kids
    Participant

    So essentially the jab is giving you it which shall not be named.

    ~mr house.

    today a boy informed me that he got his “covid shot” yesterday. i truly hope the above quote is wrong.

    #81239
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    This, I feel, applies to covid arguments: ever notice how people tend to want* you to be more like them when you point out what you perceive as flaws in their logic or that of their behavior (little difference between the two online, but it’s there)?
    *judging by their remarks

    It’s interesting. The current kerfluffling tempest in a teapot regarding ‘right and proper’ TAE mores functionally echoes the same basic dynamics by which covid enthusiats (my new term for mainstreamers) attempt to refute, shame, or even coerce coviphobics like us into Just Going Along — with the jab, with this or that unsubstantiated mandate*.

    *for example, what is on topic, what is proper free speech and what isn’t proper free speech, and other oxymoronical non sequiturs which mostly translate into ‘you kids get offa my lawn!’ or ‘whay can’t you be more like us?’

    Reading this has just improved your rhetorical hygiene, discursive rigor, ability to integrate discrete data sets without resorting to hobgooblin certitudes, and generally cleaning out the air filter of the mind. Happy to do it:)

    Why yes, I resemble that remark:

    Airhead

    P.S. This is what you get from google when you google ‘airhead’ images — link not shared cuz it’s too huge, I’m sure, for WP’s run-down difference engines. But try it, under images. YOu’ll probably agree with me that what you see is at least… discouraging.

    #81240
    those darned kids
    Participant

    What’s the difference between reality and conspiracy theory? About nine months.

    ~Dr. D

    time enough to hatch the most fetid of plots, it seems.

    coming soon to an indoctramat near you!: “conspiracy reality”.

    #81241
    TAE Summary
    Participant

    * The Covid Daily
    – The virus is not the disease; The bullet is not the whole in your head; Pfizer/Moderna/J&J vaccines stop the disease while the virus is free to go on its merry way
    – No Jab no School in Oz; Nobody unvaxxed gets in to see the wizard. Not nobody.
    – What if an HIV vaccine was as ineffective as the Covid 19 vaxxes?
    – CDC uses Occam’s Weed-wacker to make decisions
    – Vaccinating every person on the planet is only possible if there are far fewer people on the planet; Kind of a chicken and egg problem
    – Geert Van Den Bossche’s ideas are too complex for AI to filter out
    – Spike proteins might circulate forever giving longer lasting protection
    – The EUA will not be withdrawn
    – Traditional vaccines are not pathogens; Covid vaccines create pathogens that can’t replicate
    – Q: What do you get when you cross Covid 19 with Sir Edmund Hillary?
    A: It’s not possible; You can’t cross a vector with a scaler

    * TEOTWAWKI
    – Vision is better than desire
    – Self fulfilling profligacy: Predict food shortages and then pave all the farmland
    The Rise and Demise of Civilization
    – Agriculture: It seemed like a good idea at the time

    * The Covid Law of Threes
    – You can live three minutes without a lie from Fauci
    – You can live three hours without a call from the MN Health Department
    – You can live three days without a new, deadlier Covid variant
    – You can live three weeks before your vaccine passport scheme fails

    * Power Corrupts
    – The Davos Overlords of Western Thought are the Guardians of the Galaxy and the Masters of the Universe all in one
    – The Intercept is crooked
    – The Cult of the Personality is unpleasant
    – There is no law but power
    – It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World; Best to plant some trees and not get involved
    – It’s a conspiracy theory until it’s mandatory
    – If TPTB were successful they wouldn’t mess with the system; If it weren’t broke they wouldn’t be trying to fix it

    * Chris Hedges
    – We spend billions in a misguided, hi-tech efforts that devolved into chaos, enriching corporations and giving power to our enemies with many lives lost causing economic carnage and no one is held accountable
    – Afghanistan and/or Covid 19?

    * When Joe lets slip the dogs of war will it be due to cyber attacks or will Joe forget he’s holding the leash and let it go as he reaches for an ice cream cone?

    #81242
    those darned kids
    Participant

    it seems the world has been reduced to two topics:

    a) it.

    and

    b) how we hide from, deal with, cope with, and wrestle with “it” and all the mania “it” has caused.

    we try in vain to change the subject, because unlike most of the subjects in the past (wars, droughts, economies) of which we chattered, “it” is not “over there” or “some folks”, all of us are consumed by “it”; “it” knocks on our door, consuming, clouding and corrupting our thoughts, dragging our minds to places they should never have to go.

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