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Winslow Homer Salt Kettle, Bermuda 1899

 

The Spartacus Letter (DocDroid)
Once Upon A Time… (Denninger)
UK Report: Case-Hospitalisation Rate 49% Higher Among Fully Vaccinated (TE)
Biden Breaking Bad (Kunstler)
10+ Years to Stop the Spread (Paige)
Barricaded From Covid Reality By Government And Media (Hodgkinson)
The Vaccinated Superspread Hypothesis (Gato Malo)
A New Oral Antiviral Drug For Covid-19 Is Being Tested In Humans
Suspended Jail Sentence For Greek Father Who Ignored School Covid Rules (K.)
National Security Advisor Jack Sullivan May Be Guilty Of Perjury (DM)

 

 

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

 

 

Joe Rogan

 

 

They live in the same country. He hasn’t been able to see his mother in 2 years.

 

 

Oz 100% of covid cases are vaccinated.

 

 

“My name is Spartacus, and I’ve had enough.”

Must read.

The Spartacus Letter (DocDroid)

COVID-19 is not a viral pneumonia. It is a viral vascular endotheliitis and attacks the lining of blood vessels, particularly the small pulmonary alveolar capillaries, leading to endothelial cell activation and sloughing, coagulopathy, sepsis, pulmonary edema, and ARDS-like symptoms. This is a disease of the blood and blood vessels. The circulatory system. Any pneumonia that it causes is secondary to that.In severe cases, this leads to sepsis, blood clots, and multiple organ failure, including hypoxic and inflammatory damage to various vital organs, such as the brain, heart, liver, pancreas, kidneys, and intestines.Some of the most common laboratory findings in COVID-19 are elevated D-dimer, elevated prothrombin time, elevated C-reactive protein, neutrophilia, lymphopenia, hypocalcemia, and hyperferritinemia, essentially matching a profile of coagulopathy and immune system hyperactivation/immune cell exhaustion.

COVID-19 can present as almost anything, due to the wide tropism of SARS-CoV-2 for various tissues in the body’s vital organs. While its most common initial presentation is respiratory illness and flu-like symptoms, it can present as brain inflammation, gastrointestinal disease, or even heart attack or pulmonary embolism.COVID-19 is more severe in those with specific comorbidities, such as obesity, diabetes, and hypertension. This is because these conditions involve endothelial dysfunction, which renders the circulatory system more susceptible to infection and injury by this particular virus. The vast majority of COVID-19 cases are mild and do not cause significant disease. In known cases, there is something known as the 80/20 rule, where 80% of cases are mild and 20% are severe or critical. However, this ratio is only correct for known cases, not all infections. The number of actual infections is much, much higher.

Consequently, the mortality and morbidity rate is lower. However, COVID-19 spreads very quickly, meaning that there are a significant number of severely-ill and critically-ill patientsappearing in a short time frame.In those who have critical COVID-19-induced sepsis, hypoxia, coagulopathy, and ARDS, the most common treatments are intubation, injected corticosteroids, and blood thinners. This is not the correct treatment for COVID-19. In severe hypoxia, cellular metabolic shifts cause ATP to break down into hypoxanthine, which, upon the reintroduction of oxygen, causes xanthine oxidase to produce tons of highly damaging radicals that attack tissue. This is called ischemia-reperfusion injury, and it’s why the majority of people who go on a ventilator are dying. In the mitochondria, succinate buildup due to sepsis does the same exact thing; when oxygen is reintroduced, it makes superoxide radicals. Make no mistake,intubation will kill people who have COVID-19.

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“The jab train must continue, you see. So must the ventilator train. So must the money train, the mask train and the rest of the BS we have endured for the last 18+ months.”

Once Upon A Time… (Denninger)

… in a not-so-tiny nation called Spain, a nursing home had a nasty virus get into it. It was March of 2020. The nasty virus was called Covid-19. And this nursing home, like so many others all over the world, was full of elderly, morbid people. The mean age of residents was 85 and 48% were over 80 years old. It was a killing field, like so many others….. Within three months 100% of the residents had caught the virus. Not presumed to have — proved to have. How do we know this? Because almost every one of them seroconverted. All but three out of 84 of them, to be precise. Think about that last sentence for a second. Almost every one of them seroconverted. How’s that possible? Many of them died, right? You can’t seroconvert if you’re dead.

No. Not only did nearly none die none went to the hospital either because they rapidly figured out how to stop the virus from killing people — and did exactly that. You would have thought this would have been all over the news. In point of fact not one mention of it was made. Further, not one write-up was made in medical journals either until January of 2021, which I missed. My bad — out of the several hundred medical journal pieces, I missed this one. It was brought to my attention on my forum and my jaw immediately hit the floor. The jab train must continue, you see. So must the ventilator train. So must the money train, the mask train and the rest of the BS we have endured for the last 18+ months. So must the slaughter for money, the fear, and the lies. So what did these few nursing homes do that nobody has done since and nobody reported out at the time?

1. Early start of treatment, regardless of the severity of patient symptoms.
– Antihistamines every 12 h: dexchlorpheniramine 2 mg, cetirizine 10 mg or loratadine 10 mg.
– Azithromycin 500 mg orally every 24 h for 3 days if there is rapid improvement, and for 6 days if the duration of symptoms is prolonged.
– If pain or fever, acetaminophen 650 mg/6–8 h.
– Nasal washing and gargling with sodium bicarbonate water (half a glass of warm water with half a teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate).
2. Patients with mild or recent-onset symptoms (cough, fever, general malaise, anosmia, polymyalgia):
– Antihistamines + Azithromycin (see mild treatment management)
– Levofloxacin 500 mg/12 h, up to 14 days of antibiotic treatment from diagnosis.
– Mepifilin solution, 50 mg/8 h as a bronchodilator, until subjective improvement. Patients with previous lung disease (asthma or COPD) used their usual bronchodilators.
– If the patient experienced increased breathing difficulty, prednisone 1 mg/kg/day divided into two doses until clinical improvement, and then it was slowly tapered down.
3. If symptoms of severity (dyspnea, breathing difficulty, mild or moderate chest pain, with SpO2 >80%, heart rate <100 beats per minute at any time of the process):
4. Prophylactic treatment for close contacts, including all asymptomatic residents:
– Antihistamines at the same dose as symptomatic patients.

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Prevents severe disease. Sure.

UK Report: Case-Hospitalisation Rate 49% Higher Among Fully Vaccinated (TE)

If you wish to argue that the reason the vaccinated account for the majority of Covid-19 deaths is because the majority of the population are vaccinated, then you need to explain why Covid-19 deaths are 11 times higher than this time last year when there wasn’t a Covid-19 vaccine available that allegedly reduces the risk of death due to Covid-19 by 95%. Because this is precisely the predicament the United Kingdom is in right now. Between August 23rd 2020 and September 19th 2020 there were allegedly 275 deaths recorded that were associated with Covid-19, by associated we mean that they died within 28 days of testing positive for the virus. However, fast forward precisely one year and between August 23rd 2021 and September 19th 2021, there were allegedly 3,125 deaths associated with Covid-19, and the vast majority of those deaths were people who had been fully vaccinated.


This represents a 1,036% increase in the number of deaths associated with Covid-19 on the previous year, meaning Covid-19 deaths are currently 11.3 times higher than the same period in 2020 despite 80% of the UK population now having had a Covid-19 vaccine, and having summer on our side to keep all respiratory viruses at bay. Public Health England’s (PHE) latest ‘Covid-19 Vaccine Surveillance’ report, published 23rd September, also shows that the majority of Covid-19 cases between the 23rd August 2021 and 19th September 2021 have been recorded among the fully vaccinated population, with 277,474 cases being recorded over a period of four weeks.

There were also a further 54,183 cases among people who had received a single dose of a Covid-19 vaccine more than 21 days prior to testing positive, 13,004 cases among people who had received a single dose of a Covid-19 vaccine less than 21 days prior to testing positive, and 275,845 cases among the unvaccinated population. This means the vaccinated accounted for 55.5% of Covid-19 cases between August 23rd 2021 and September 19th 2021. The same can be said for hospitalisations. Between August 23rd and September 19th a total of 8,160 people presented to emergency care resulting in overnight inpatient admission within 28 days of a positive test for Covid-19. Of these 4,557 were fully vaccinated, 383 were partly vaccinated, and 3,220 were unvaccinated.

This means the vaccinated account for 60.5% of hospital admissions between August 23rd 2021 and September 19th 2021.It should be noted here that the percentage of fully vaccinated people hospitalised is higher than the number of fully vaccinated people to have tested positive for Covid-19, and this trend unfortunately continues when it comes to Covid-19 deaths. Table 4 of PHE’s Covid-19 Vaccine Surveillance report shows that between 23rd August and 19th September 2021 there were 3,125 deaths associated with Covid-19, and 76.64% of them were among the vaccinated population.

According to the above 730 deaths occurred among the unvaccinated, 111 deaths occurred among the partly vaccinated, and 2,284 deaths occurred among the fully vaccinated. But what does all this mean? Well, there were a very similar number of cases recorded among the unvaccinated (275,845) and fully vaccinated (277,474) population between 23rd August and 19th September 2021. This proves that the Covid-19 vaccines definitely do not prevent infection or transmission, as has been confirmed by three separate studies conducted by the CDC, UK Government, and Oxford University.


However, because the Covid-19 vaccines allegedly reduce the risk of hospitalisation and death by up to 95% you would expect to see far less hospitalisations and deaths among the fully vaccinated population than the number of hospitalisations and deaths among the unvaccinated population. But as the above tables show, this isn’t the case. For instance, the case-hospitalisation rate, based on the numbers presented in PHE’s report, among the unvaccinated population equates to 1.1%. Whereas the case-hospitalisation rate among the fully vaccinated population equates to 1.64%. Therefore, the case-hospitalisation rate is 49% higher among the fully vaccinated population.

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“The reported official numbers are all lies of one kind or another, issued by agencies primarily concerned not with public health but with covering asses at the highest level..”

Biden Breaking Bad (Kunstler)

The Attorney General was probably forced to approve John Durham’s recent indictment of Hillary Clinton errand-boy, lawyer Michael Sussmann, from the DC Lawfare Central outfit called Perkins Coie. I say forced because it was an open-and-shut case, and denial by Mr. Garland would have been seen as just another RussiaGate ploy by an agency hopelessly tainted by years of official criminal misconduct — and let’s assume that Mr. AG Garland does not want to be dragged into that mess, especially as Mr. Durham is unraveling it. And the Special Counsel signaled that he is doing just that by implicating a wheel of culpable public figures in a 27-page indictment for Mr. Sussmann’s simple crime of lying to the FBI, which could have been accomplished in two concise paragraphs. That is, expect the Sussmann indictment to not be the end of a matter that could be tending toward a massive RICO indictment against the entire DNC wax museum of liars and seditionists.

Coincidentally — and on rather a separate track — we have China’s latest export to the advanced economies of the world: the meltdown of its bond market as signified in the wreck of super-gigantic real estate conglomerate Evergrande. Behold the broken daisy-chain of obligations stretching to the furthest reaches of global finance and the deleterious effect of that on capital markets everywhere to follow. The central banks are pulling out the last stops now to prevent a general meltdown of hallucinated “wealth” around the world and you can probably measure the success of that last-ditch effort in days as we enter the cursed month of October, when skeletons dance on the graves of lost fortunes. The stage-managers behind “Joe Biden” look forward to that as they would to so many stakes driven through their degenerate hearts.

Speaking of hearts, there is the current heart-of-the-matter, the Covid-19 engineered bioweapon being used internationally to suppress formerly free citizens of formerly democratic republics. It becomes more obvious each day that everything connected to this extravaganza is other than it appears to be. Chiefly, the vaccine is not a vaccine and it will probably end up killing more people than the Covid-19 disease and its variants. A lot of those deaths will be caused in the months ahead by damage to people’s hearts and other organs from spike proteins generated via mRNA shots. The reported official numbers are all lies of one kind or another, issued by agencies primarily concerned not with public health but with covering asses at the highest level, so do not trust them. If you haven’t had a vax shot, better seriously consider steering clear of your government’s desperate attempts to get the job done.

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“We’re not getting out of this pandemic anytime soon.”

10+ Years to Stop the Spread (Paige)

We’re not getting out of this pandemic anytime soon. The government has no idea what they’re doing, they manipulate the numbers of cases and deaths, they lie to us constantly, they’re rationing therapeutics and they’ve allowed more than a million illegal aliens into the country this year during a pandemic. It’s obvious that the democrats don’t want COVID-19 going anywhere. And who can blame them? It helped them get rid of Trump by cheating in an election and has allowed them to be able to rule over us tyrannically in every facet of government – federal, state, county, city, townships, health departments, school boards, OSHA, licensing boards and more.

Everyone and their brother (and sister) in government has been trying to control what we do and take away our freedoms – presidents, governors, mayors, attorney generals, health directors, and local commissioners. The democrats have also been able to control us with school boards, leftist businesses, social media and the fake news on their side. COVID-19 was a gift to the democrats and it’s a gift that keeps on giving. They have no intention to let it go. At this point, it really doesn’t matter how many vaccines and therapeutics we come up with because we can’t end a pandemic with open borders and a democrat president who ships these people all over the country. So we’re going to have to learn to live with the pandemic for a long long time – and different variants of the virus.

Because of this, I have a kind of apocalyptic prediction that this will end up being an extinction level event. I’m not sure what the timeline is. Five years, ten years, maybe more if we slow it down a bit here and there. But I’m starting to believe that the virus will stop spreading when a large percentage of the people on the planet stop breathing. There are too many leftists around the world keeping this thing going.But the democrats will be okay with that because it means a lot less carbon dioxide being emitted into the air from that breathing. A lot less cows will needed for food, a lot less cars will be driving around and a lot less airplanes will be flying in the skies.So it’s pretty much a winning situation if the virus goes on for a while and destroys a lot of people in its path. The only way the democrats DON’T win is if the virus is beaten. And the democrats NEVER want to lose. Think about that.

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“Under the leadership of the US ‘Aids czar’ Anthony Fauci, now playing a similar role with Covid, HIV/Aids became a business worth hundreds of billions of dollars..”

Barricaded From Covid Reality By Government And Media (Hodgkinson)

In the early years of Aids, I joined media colleagues in raising the alarm about a virus that we were told put all sexually active people at risk because of a long time lag between infection and illness. We were happy to feel we were contributing to the public health effort. But thanks to the work of ‘dissident’ scientists in the USA and Australia, I gradually learned that ‘HIV’ was not a genuine pathogen. ‘HIV/Aids’ was a concept, marketed with skill and urgency by American government scientists with support from colleagues in the UK and elsewhere, after a period in which the plight of early Aids victims had been cruelly neglected. The virus theory democratised the illness and brought compassion in place of condemnation.

Gay Lib leaders had fought for years to end discriminatory laws and attitudes and when Aids came along, its early characterisation as a ‘gay plague’ linked to promiscuous anal sex and heavy drug use threatened to derail the movement. Then big money, combined with political correctness, created a monolithic belief system, never fully dismantled, that caused enormous harm. Under the leadership of the US ‘Aids czar’ Anthony Fauci, now playing a similar role with Covid, HIV/Aids became a business worth hundreds of billions of dollars, supporting countless well-meaning NGOs as well as science journals and researchers. The use of unvalidated test kits bequeathed poor African countries with a false belief that the continent was in the grip of a terrible epidemic.

A lethal, hugely expensive, US government-sponsored drug marketed by Burroughs Wellcome killed and tortured thousands of gay men, as well as ‘HIV’-positive children, and patients with the blood clotting disorder haemophilia. (See PoIson By Prescription – The AZT Story, by John Lauritsen, published by Asklepios, New York, 1990.) A futile search for a vaccine to a non-existent virus continues to this day – 35 years on! The scientific community fiercely resisted challenge and never owned up to the mistakes at the heart of the HIV paradigm, which I have summarised here. When the then Sunday Times editor Andrew Neil persisted in publishing Aids heresies, the response was censorship, suppression and ridicule. Other mass media, notably the BBC, Guardian, Independent and Observer, bayed for our blood. The Health Education Council started an Aids journalism award specifically in our dishonour. The science journal Nature contemplated picketing the ST offices.

This was despite challenges from top scientists, including Nobel laureates such as Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR test widely used in Aids research and now (grossly misused) in purportedly diagnosing Covid, who insisted there was zero scientific evidence of HIV being the cause of the collapse of the immune system seen in the syndrome. I learned at that time that the bigger the evidence vacuum, the greater the intolerance of dissenting views and the tighter the attempted mind control.

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“..if this hypothesis proves out, then calling this an “epidemic of the unvaccinated” is 180 degrees wrong.”

The Vaccinated Superspread Hypothesis (Gato Malo)

Grab a seat, because i have an idea to inject into the debate, i sincerely hope that i am wrong, and i suspect a fair few folks are not going to like hearing it, but it’s the best fit i can find for the data.So here we go: The current surge in covid deaths is caused by the vaccinated. The covid vaccines are extremely leaky and may well accelerate contracting and carrying covid. They allow for very high viral loads to go unnoticed and generate a new and severe asymptomatic spread vector to where none existed before.The high viral loads lead to greater contagion. They may lead to greater severity (but this data is iffy and contested). Vaccine campaigns cause superspread events because vaccination leads to a 2 week window of 40-100% more covid risk that then gets counted as “unvaccinated” because the definitions are bad.

This combination makes those vaccinated with one dose or more into superspread bombs. You get a surge of spread that gets misallocated (and used to inflate ve) and then you get the later breakthrough cases (because the vaccines do not stop infection and just mitigate severity) These BT cases have massively high VL in often asymptomatic superspreaders that pass on high loading doses to the unvaccinated and greatly worsen the overall pandemic. This further inflates apparent VE by subjecting the unvaccinated to a more profligate and severe disease vector than they would have been had no vaccination campaign ever been undertaken. It moves the whole system to a a different valence. Perversely, if the vaccinated comprise a spread vector that accelerates deaths in the unvaccinated, that would make it look like vaccines work.

Ouch. (told you you weren’t going to like it). In the longer run, this would also select for hotter, deadlier strains because that’s what leaky vaccines do. (more HERE) this would really make life worse for everyone. i want to stress, this is a hypothesis and a work in progress. it’s just the best fit to the facts i can find right now and i REALLY hope it’s wrong because if it’s right, this vaccination campaign is probably the worst health blunder in human history and the epidemiology and politics of that will get stunningly, surreally bad. But if this hypothesis proves out, then calling this an “epidemic of the unvaccinated” is 180 degrees wrong.

It would mean that the unvaxxed are being assaulted by the vaccinated because this vaccine program was incredibly ill conceived and the vaccines are not suited to task and that it, quite literally, was the vaccination programs themselves that have re-intensified what should have been a waning pandemic.

Leana Wen
https://twitter.com/i/status/1441168908354875395

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IVM in disguise?

A New Oral Antiviral Drug For Covid-19 Is Being Tested In Humans

Despite the effectiveness of vaccines, we still need drugs to treat COVID. Even people who have been double vaccinated stand a small chance of getting COVID and ending up moderately or even severely ill. There are drugs to treat COVID, but they have to be given in hospital. One promising drug that could improve things is molnupiravir, an antiviral that’s moving into the final stages of testing in humans. Researchers are hoping it can be used both to treat and prevent COVID. Importantly, it can be taken as a pill – meaning people wouldn’t need to be hospitalised to receive it. This drug reduces the ability of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID, to replicate. It works by mimicking one of the building blocks of the virus’s genetic material.

When the virus reproduces, it builds a new copy of its RNA, and the drug ends up being incorporated into it. When the virus then reproduces, the molnupiravir causes mutations to accumulate in the virus’s RNA, which increase every time it replicates. Eventually, this causes an “error catastrophe”, where excessive mutations stop the virus from being able to reproduce altogether, and it dies off. How well does it work? So far, a small trial has looked at the effects of molnupiravir in 202 COVID patients (not in hospital) who had started having symptoms. Participants were randomly allocated to receive molnupiravir or a placebo, with different doses of the antiviral being tested.

The trial’s results have been published as a preprint, meaning they are yet to be formally reviewed by other scientists. Still, the trial showed that after three days of treatment, infectious SARS-CoV-2 virus was found significantly less often in participants taking 800mg of molnupiravir (2%) compared to those taking a placebo (17%). By day five, the virus was not detected in any participants receiving 400mg or 800mg of molnupiravir, but was still found in 11% of those taking a placebo. The trial, therefore, suggests that molnupiravir can reduce and eliminate infectious SARS-CoV-2 in patients with mild COVID. Indeed, it’s the fact that molnupiravir speeds up the clearance of the virus that suggests it could be useful not just for treating COVID but also lessening the chance of it spreading.

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Just made him a symbol of resistance.

Suspended Jail Sentence For Greek Father Who Ignored School Covid Rules (K.)

A father who threatened teachers and a school principal after his son was forbidden from going to school because he had not completed the mandatory Covid self-test and was not wearing a mask has been handed a 15-month prison sentence, suspended for three years, by a Thessaloniki court. The 37-year-old was found guilty of illegally entering a public building and of defamation. On Tuesday, he barged into the premises, refusing to leave, while allegedly preventing other students from entering. Judges ordered that he be removed from the courthouse and be issued with a 300-euro fine for failing to wear a mask at his trial.

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“If Sullivan is found to have lied to congress, he could be charged with a felony and be sentenced to up to 5 years imprisonment.”

National Security Advisor Jack Sullivan May Be Guilty Of Perjury (DM)

White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan might have lied under oath to investigators who were probing whether his former boss Hillary Clinton used federal agencies to smear Donald Trump as colluding with Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign. Sullivan – who served as Clinton’s chief foreign policy adviser during her failed presidential bid – was identified by his campaign position in a grand jury indictment handed down last week against Michael A. Sussmann, a partner in a law firm that represented Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee. The criminal complaint alleged Sullivan was briefed about a mission to gather intelligence about Trump’s alleged ties with a Russian bank ahead of the election.

If the indictment is accurate, it contradicts Sullivan’s 2017 congressional testimony during which he claimed to have no knowledge of the company that helped lead the research mission. Sussman was indicted for allegedly telling the FBI in September 2016 that he was not doing work ‘for any client’ when he requested a meeting with the FBI’s general counsel to warn them of concerns from cybersecurity researchers of potentially suspicious contact between Russia and the Trump team. The grand jury said the blame doesn’t end with Sussman: In its 27-page indictment, it referenced Sullivan as being involved in an effort to trick the FBI into investigating Trump for Russian collusion. He’s not named, but Sullivan in the indictment is referred to as Clinton’s ‘foreign policy advisor,’ who communicated with Sussman’s law partner Marc Elias ‘concerning the Russian bank allegations.’

Sullivan was briefed on evidence that suggested Trump was using a secret server to communicate with the Moscow-based Alfa Bank, sources told RealClearInvestigations.com. He was others participating in Clinton’s research team, including the Washington-based Fusion GPS. Sullivan was briefed on Fusion’s data, the outlet reported.However, during congressional testimony in December 2017, Sullivan claimed under oath that he knew nothing of the research. “Marc [Elias] … would occasionally give us updates on the opposition research they were conducting, but I didn’t know what the nature of that effort was – inside effort, outside effort, who was funding it, who was doing it, anything like that,” Sullivan said. If Sullivan is found to have lied to congress, he could be charged with a felony and be sentenced to up to 5 years imprisonment.

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    Winslow Homer Salt Kettle, Bermuda 1899   • The Spartacus Letter (DocDroid) • Once Upon A Time… (Denninger) • UK Report: Case-Hospitalisation R
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle September 25 2021]

    #88086
    teri
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    I wanted to clear up a mistaken assumption made the other day in the comment section. There are so many attacks on people who do not want the vaccines that we must take care to use only reliable information. This is a small thing, but I think it should be noted.

    Bolding in the below is mine. I checked the NIH website (which is very difficult to use, btw) regarding their supposed approval of Ivermectin.  The antivirals listed are “approved or under evaluation”; i.e., not all of them are fully approved.  Says so right in the heading at the top of the page:  

     Table 2e. Characteristics of Antiviral Agents That Are Approved or Under Evaluation for the Treatment of COVID-19

    Under the Dosing Regimens column, there is the note that the “doses listed here are for approved indications or from reported experiences or clinical trials.”

    Under Ivermectin specifically, it reads, “The dose most commonly used in clinical trials is IVM 0.2–0.6 mg/kg PO given as a single dose or as a once-daily dose for up to 5 days.”

    Of the three antivirals listed by NIH, only Remdesivir is approved. You can see that by reading the column titled “comments and links to clinical trials”. The other two (Ivermectin and Nitazonanide) are not approved, and you are given a link to see the clinical trials. (Remdesivir wrecks your kidneys. I wouldn’t take it, but hey – maybe that’s just me.)

    I found that there are currently three (only 3!) trials on Ivermectin currently going on in the US. All 3 of them are still recruiting test subjects, so I presume they haven’t gone very far in their research yet.

    https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/tables/table-2e/

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    teri,

    There is a clear contradiction in saying “we must take care to use only reliable information” and then pointing to the NIH website.

    #88089
    sinnycool
    Participant

    Re. 100% of NSW hospitalisation cases were vaccinated.

    To put that 100% hospitalised figure in perspective only 50% of the entire NSW population is fully vaccinated and 75% have had one dose so the claim is risible on that basis alone.

    Digging deeper…

    The tweet is dated 25th September and the “Breaking News” banner claims 141 new cases presumably for the previous day or at least contemporaneous with 25th.

    141 is incorrect, there were in fact 1,007 new locally acquired cases on 24th Sept NSW.

    Here is the actual video on 25th September of the same health officer clearly stating that the 24th daily figure was 1,007 at the start of the video near the 7 second mark.

    Given the obvious intention of the author of the tweet it seems to me it’s sheer invention and designed to deliberately mislead anyone ignorant of the true situation in Australia.

    As an Australian I’m mightily interested in the vaccination status of the hospitalised in this country and as a very long term reader of this blog I’m equally interesting in trying to get real figures out of the mass of misinformation.

    I can’t quickly find the actual % vaxed in hospital in NSW on that date but at a guess it would be no more than 5% at the very most. When I get time I’ll see if I can come up with something better than a guess. Regardless, that tweet about 100% is utter crap.

    #88090
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    teri is correct, however – only Remdesivir has the word “approved” in the right-hand column. Let the obfuscation continue since, clearly, that table could have division headings that note which are “approved” and which are in “clinical trial” stage. I hate the government. They’ve destroyed what little credibility they used to have. I’ll never trust any of them again.

    I’m also tired of the fact those who question the accepted vaccination/treatment narrative “must take care to use only reliable information.” The other side doesn’t have to do that, now do they. F ’em.

    #88091
    teri
    Participant

    @Ilargi, “There is a clear contradiction in saying “we must take care to use only reliable information” and then pointing to the NIH website.”

    LOL. You are right about that, of course. But the misinformation I was pointing out was the idea that NIH had approved of Ivermectin. They did not, and they did not try to say that they had. We just didn’t read the entire wording they used, so this particular little detail was a mistaken assumption made in haste – not the fault of NIH.

    There is a whole freaking slew of really important stuff that is their fault, and the fault of the entire governmental apparatus, the media, and the pharma companies, etc.

    #88092
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    What happened to Dr. D? I miss my daily portion of disparaging sardonic irony with a large side of acerbic sarcasm.

    #88093
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ teri
    “I wanted to clear up a mistaken assumption made the other day in the comment section.
    I found that there are currently three (only 3!) trials on Ivermectin currently going on in the US. All 3 of them are still recruiting test subjects, so I presume they haven’t gone very far in their research yet. “

    @ upstateNYer

    “teri is correct, however – only Remdesivir has the word “approved””

    A list of clinical trials is available here:
    Ivermectin
    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19&term=ivermectin&cntry=&state=&city=&dist=&Search=Search
    78 Studies found for: ivermectin | COVID-19
    Showing: 1-10 of 78 studies 10 studies per page

    page #1 has 4 completed trials
    page #2 has 5 completed trials
    page #3 has 5 completed trials
    page #4 has 4 completed trials
    page #5 has 1 completed trials
    page #6 has 3 completed trials
    page #7 has 3 completed trials
    page #8 has 1 completed trials

    Of course, those 26 trials were not done in the USA and therefore you omitted to mention them.
    (If not in the USA then they cannot be good. Therefore, not approved. Therefore, ignored)
    I would prefer to take Ivermectin instead of the approved Remdesivir.
    I would not prefer to take the vaccines because there are other options that can be as effective.
    ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7833340/#!po=34.9057
    Antihistamines and azithromycin as a treatment for COVID-19 on primary health care – A retrospective observational study in elderly patients Published online 2021 Jan 16)

    #88094
    teri
    Participant

    @zerosum;

    No, I omitted them because I was specifically looking for clinical trials in the US to see if we were even researching this medicine. I am surprised the US isn’t doing more trials considering the success other countries seem to have had with Ivermectin.

    I just checked again and the clinical trials.gov website has 8 studies listed in the US now – not 3. Of the 8, one has been withdrawn, and one does not mention ivermectin within its parameters, so there are really only 6 currently. In the US.

    I did not check worldwide studies because I wanted to know if the medical people in the US are even interested in ivermectin, not because I think studies done in other countries are not as “good” as the US. My point was, in fact, that we (in the US) are derelict by ignoring the possible use of this medicine. Please don’t put words in my mouth. Geez.

    And I agree with you in that I too say, “I would prefer to take Ivermectin instead of the approved Remdesivir. I would not prefer to take the vaccines because there are other options that can be as effective.”

    #88095
    kolya
    Participant

    Hey sinnycool, I couldn’t handle not knowing so I googled the stats and found July 25th.
    https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/pages/20210725_00.aspx
    Click through to find the video.

    I was relieved and disturbed. Video at around 6:30 mark is same as tweet.

    #88096
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ teri
    The fog has cleared.
    Thanks

    #88097
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    It’s ok. teri was pointing out a nuance that we overlooked in our haste. It’s appreciated, teri. 🙂

    Remdesivir doesn’t work to do much of anything, really, and it’s dangerous. Didn’t Remdesivir studies show it only shortens hospital stays by like 2 days? I would never take it.

    I miss Dr D, too. Maybe his real life is taking his attention away from TAE readers’ needs. lol

    #88098
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Karl D has yet another good post this morning. Opening lines:

    “The number of people calling for unvaxxed folks to be denied medical care, even doctors, is stunning.
    Do you have any idea where this leads?”

    In case people have trouble figuring out where this could lead, even just RE: covid:

    1) 1 or 2 injections (depending on brand) – you’re fully vaccinated
    2) no vaccination – no medical care for you
    3) add booster #1 – you’re fully vaccinated
    4) no booster #1 – you’re unvaccinated. No medical care for you
    5) add booster #2 – you’re fully vaccinated
    6) no booster #2 … see 4) above … rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat

    Jeepers. Humans certainly win the stupidity prize among earth’s species, don’t they?

    #88099

    sinnycool, a friend looked it up, it’s from July 26

    #88101
    Germ
    Participant

    @ teri – “I am surprised the US isn’t doing more trials considering the success other countries seem to have had with Ivermectin.”

    Hahahaha – that surprises you?

    You have some catching up to do!

    #88102
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    #88103
    userzeroid
    Participant

    The problem with psychopathic gaslighting techniques is it makes one second guess oneself. It is designed to work that way. We should be a little easier on ourselves. These kinds of psyops are not particularly pleasant or easy to go through. As we all know, government has been spinning this particular game on us for centuries. It’s not new or innovative (hint to deep state actors – must try harder)

    We should congratulate ourselves for getting a masterclass on agitprop-in-action. It’s real life folks. Kinda disappointing when you see it up close and personal like this. I was expecting much more (what with the unlimited resources that they have at their disposal) All we needed in the 21st century was an internet connection and a few good people who know how to think for themselves.

    That’s the advantage of this occuring right here, right now. Despite their gaming the system to own all the media, influencing virually all the social networks that exist, buying out every politician they can along woth the banks, pharmaceuticals and the like, they never figured out that information is free and everywhere. A few good people can join the dots even without the incalculable wealth they have amassed or stolen.

    #88104
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    • UK Report: Case-Hospitalisation Rate 49% Higher Among Fully Vaccinated (TE)

    That article is making good points, but it’s silent about the last two columns in the tables appearing in the article, which show the rates per 100,000. The article looks at the total numbers (combining all age groups, each with a different percentage being vaccinated), but the rates per 100,000 (broken down between age groups) should give a better picture (as long as the data is reliable, more about that later). The last two column of the Tables 2&3 show these rates per 100,000.

    In Table 2 (shown above), the number of Covid cases per 100,000 are higher for those with 2 vaxx doses (compared to those with no vaxx doses) for ages 40 and older. The situation is reversed for the under-40 age groups.

    This data shows that for people age 40 and older, the vaxx shots are actually associated with a higher likelihood of coming down with a Covid infection. For people under age 40, the data shows the opposite.

    In Table 3 (shown above), the number of Covid hospitalizations per 100,000 are lower for those with 2 vaxx doses (compared to those with no vaxx doses) for all age groups. These rates seems to contradict the overall numbers examined in the article. But, the government data includes this caveat about the “per 100,000” rates:

    “Interpretation of the case rates in vaccinated and unvaccinated population is particularly susceptible to changes in denominators and should be interpreted with extra caution.”

    Sounds like another way to say those rate numbers (per 100,000) are very shaky. The “denominators” would presumably be the population numbers for the various age groups when segregated by vaxx status. The caveat was given for the case rates, but the hospitalization rates are presumably just as shaky, since they have the same denominators.

    #88105
    redshift
    Participant

    I’ve only read a few pages so far, but I can’t emphasise enough how educational and important is the info contained in the Spartacus Letter.

    Nice find Raúl.

    #88106
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    My comments above regarding hospitalization rates also apply to the death rates.

    #88107
    robertmp
    Participant

    Two neutral to negative articles:very worth reading regarding ivermectin.

    Swiss Policy Research

    The Ivermectin Debate

    Cochrane lLibrary
    https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD015017.pub2/full?highlightAbstract=ivermectin

    I believe at this time IVM has almost no negative consequences, so I am using the horse paste as a preventative.

    #88109
    teri
    Participant

    @zerosum;

    It’s okay. We just need to know our enemies….and I am not your enemy. Here, a music break on me.

    I keep thinking that here’s where we are:

    Freakin’ David Byrne, man.
    First comment under this video (as I watched it a few minutes ago) was from a year ago and reads,

    “This is my quarantine workout. I play this video 3 times in a row and do whatever the heck David Byrne is doing. I became so buff my shoulders expanded by 3 times and now my head looks smaller.”

    #88110
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Thank you, userzeroid. You make a good point, and it helps to be reminded.

    #88111
    those darned kids
    Participant

    teri: i have watched that video 17,353,498 times during the last two weeks months years.

    #88112
    Germ
    Participant

    Another informative read:

    “The Dangers of Covid-19 Booster Shots and Vaccines: Boosting Blood Clots and Leaky Vessels”

    https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Vaccine-immune-interactions-and-booster-shots_Sep-2021.pdf

    #88113
    Nomanisanisland
    Participant

    Technically alcohol is the solute, water is the solvent, and what we end up drinking is the solution.
    In these times of misinformation we must strive for accuracy in everything we say 🙂

    #88114
    Germ
    Participant

    The usual suspects – well worth watching:

    “8 prominent doctors & scientists engage in a remarkable exchange”

    https://3speak.tv/watch?v=pandemichealth/raukfhng

    #88115
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    I notice that apart from Dr. D. being AWOL, also V. Arnold has failed to put in an appearance today, so let me comment on the art in his place, which I find absolutely inspirational; the way Homer has captured the shimmering water with just a few simple brush strokes is simply stunning.

    In other news, today is day one of the fascist corona pass to access cafés, restaurants, museums etc. in my normally so wonderfully tolerant country of the Netherlands. I think it’s an absolute disgrace to discriminate and divide the people and to pretend it’s all about health as our (out of office, nota bene) government has done, even though this runs counter to the very first article of the constitution! Just what is the point of having a king if he can’t stand up to such an egregious abuse of power when it matters? No doubt he’s off with his chums shooting wild boar and deer at the moment on public property which he’s closed off specially for the next three months.

    Nuremberg 2.0 can’t come quickly enough as far as I am concerned and if the French have a guillotine or two they’re not using at the moment then perhaps they wouldn’t mind lending them to us.

    /rant-off

    #88116
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    In that painting, Winslow Homer is not exaggerating the pink color of the sand at Bermuda.

    #88117
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    About the UK data, I just noticed Norman Fenton’s recent blog post which delves deeper into the data, consolidates all the vaxxed categories into one (for comparison to the no-vaxxed), and concludes “The UK Government’s own data does not support the claims made for vaccine effectiveness/safety.

    https://probabilityandlaw.blogspot.com/2021/09/all-cause-mortality-rates-in-england.html

    #88118
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    Vaxx (and investment advice, too!) peddler at your service:

    “We have the experience and the infrastructure to play a leading role in administering booster shots to eligible populations,” said Troyen A. Brennan, M.D., MPH, Executive Vice President and Chief Medical Officer of CVS Health. “We also continue to make it as convenient as possible for the unvaccinated to receive their first doses.”

    https://seekingalpha.com/pr/18486730-cvs-health-announces-availability-of-pfizer-biontech-booster-shot-to-eligible-populations

    … btw, CVS performance:
    https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/quote/CVS/

    Best,
    F.S.

    #88119
    Nomanisanisland
    Participant

    NZ Vaccine Adverse Effects latest report #27 published 22 Sept
    https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/safety-report-27.asp

    As I posted 2 weeks ago with the huge increase in vaccine uptake due to the ‘Deadly Delta Outbreak” (1 death – 90 y.o. with severe comorbidities Sept 4) I expected a huge increase in reported deaths.

    The previous report was to 28 August, 2 weeks into the ‘DDO’, so not really time for many new reports to be entered. That week the total was 3,294,792 cumulative doses (+ 539,675 for the week)
    “There were 1,791 non-serious and 47 serious reports this week. Sadly, three of these serious reports reported on deaths.”

    The latest report to end of Sept 4 the total doses given 3,857,146 (+ 562,354 for the week):
    “There were 2,692 non-serious and 85 serious reports this week.

      Sadly, 14 of these serious reports were notifications of deaths

    . Any possibility of a causal link is investigated as part of our routine investigations and no new safety concerns with the Comirnaty vaccine were raised by these reports.”

    But is this reported ANYWHERE in our so called news sites or normal media – not a word (nor for any other countries stats).
    Apparently this government dictated slaughter is only new once the Chief Coroner accepts the fact the a death is ‘likely’ linked.
    So far 1 out of 54 “was likely due to vaccine induced myocarditis (awaiting Coroner’s determination)”
    – 26 of these deaths are unlikely related to the COVID-19 vaccine
    – 9 deaths could not be assessed due to insufficient information
    18 cases are still under investigation.

    So far 27 Covid-19 ‘linked’ deaths – either died within 28 days of a positive PCR test, or determined by physicians examination to have symptoms consistent with Covid-19.
    1 Of these since the Dreaded Delta came to NZ.
    54 Comirnity linked deaths, 17 of these reported since the week including 17 August when the first case of Deadly Delta was reported.

    Something is terribly, terribly wrong

    #88120
    LudwigVon
    Participant

    You can sit on the terrace of the cafe without pass, but to go pipi you need it! Wildplassen wordt het volgende item! 🙂

    #88121
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    My mention above of the “no-vaxxed” led me to imagine a medicinal product called NoVaxx (which implies a combination of Vaccination with either Nova or Novel, or No as in None). Two shots of NoVaxx would protect you as much as the current Covid “vaccines,” especially if some ivermectin is part of the formulation.

    My mockup photo of NoVaxx:

    #88122
    Nomanisanisland
    Participant

    Excerpts from the Safety Data sheet for Comirnity used in NZ. (emphasis mine)

    NEW ZEALAND DATA SHEET
    1. PRODUCT NAME
    COMIRNATY™ COVID-19 VACCINE 0.5 mg/mL concentrated suspension for injection.

    1 dose (0.3 mL) contains 30 micrograms of BNT162b2 [mRNA] (embedded in lipid
    nanoparticles).
    The active ingredient is a single-stranded, 5’-capped messenger RNA (mRNA) produced using
    a cell-free in vitro transcription from the corresponding DNA templates, encoding the viral
    spike (S) protein of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2).

    4. CLINICAL PARTICULARS
    4.1 Therapeutic indications
    COMIRNATY has provisional consent (see section 5.1) for the indication below:
    Active immunisation to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by SARS-CoV2, in individuals 12 years of age and older.

    The preferred site of administration is the deltoid muscle of the upper arm.
    Do not inject COMIRNATY intravascularly, subcutaneously or intradermally

    Duration of protection
    The duration of protection afforded by COMIRNATY is unknown as it is still being determined
    by ongoing clinical trials.

    4.5 Interactions with other medicines and other forms of interactions
    No interaction studies have been performed.
    Concomitant administration of COMIRNATY with other vaccines has not been studied.

    4.6 Fertility, pregnancy and lactation
    Fertility
    In a combined fertility and developmental toxicity study, female rats were intramuscularly
    administered COMIRNATY prior to mating and during gestation (4 full human doses of 30 μg
    each, spanning between pre-mating day 21 and gestation day 20). SARS-CoV-2 neutralising
    antibodies were present in maternal animals from prior to mating to the end of the study on
    postnatal day 21 as well as in fetuses and offspring. There were no vaccine related effects on
    female fertility and pregnancy rate.
    Pregnancy
    There is limited experience with use of COMIRNATY in pregnant women. Animal studies do
    not indicate direct or indirect harmful effects with respect to pregnancy, embryo/fetal
    development, parturition or post-natal development (see Fertility). Administration of
    COMIRNATY in pregnancy should only be considered when the potential benefits outweigh
    any potential risks for the mother and fetus
    Lactation
    It is unknown whether BNT162b2 [mRNA] is excreted in human milk.
    (But then we get huge pressure for pregnant or those wanting to get pregnant to get the jab anyway)
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-delta-outbreak-pregnant-women-delay-getting-vaccine-worrying-misinformation/P3MQOQ5ZUNPN4YAKEUC6HEMESI/

    Covid 19 coronavirus Delta outbreak: Pregnant women delay getting vaccine – worrying misinformation
    Fertility doctors are worried about a significant number of pregnant women delaying their Covid vaccination as a result of “fake news” that suggests it could harm their unborn baby.

    They are also seeing couples putting off their jabs out of fear it could prevent their chance of conceiving a baby. ​

    Auckland obstetrician and gynaecologist Olivia Stuart told the Weekend Herald pregnant women were in more danger during the Delta outbreak by not getting the vaccine than if they had one.
    “Most of our day involves talking our patients into getting the vaccine … it’s worrying to think there are women out there who weren’t getting the correct information at all.”
    The Ministry of Health had also advised the Pfizer vaccine is safe for pregnant women and will not affect a person’s genes or fertility.

    (No mention of possible harm to your unborn or chance to conceive due to the fact that there is NO data on the safety in these cases)

    Back to the Safety Sheet:

    4.8 Undesirable effects
    Summary of safety profile
    The safety of COMIRNATY was evaluated in participants 12 years of age and older in 2
    clinical studies that included 22,875 participants (comprised of 21,744 participants 16 years of
    age and older and 1,131 adolescents 12 to 15 years of age)
    that have received at least one dose
    of COMIRNATY.

    Some details on Study C4591001:
    “Participants who originally received placebo will be offered the opportunity to receive BNT162b2 at defined points as part of the study.” – Whoops there goes your control group as part of the study design!

    Actual Study Start Date : April 29, 2020
    Estimated Primary Completion Date : May 2, 2023
    Estimated Study Completion Date : May 2, 2023

    At the time of the analysis of Study C4591001 with a data cut-off of 13 March 2021 for the
    placebo-controlled blinded follow-up period up to the participants’ unblinding dates, a total of
    25,651 (58.2%) participants (13,031 COMIRNATY and 12,620 placebo) 16 years of age and
    older were followed up for ≥4 months after the second dose

    Followed up for at least 4 months… and then what?

    So our entire ‘The Vaccine is Safe’ narrative is based on 13,031 people receiving two doses and being monitored for at least 4 months. And we can’t compare to the control group because they were all offered the vaccine as part of the study.

    But we are promised it is safe and anyone who says otherwise is spreading mis-information, an anti-vaxxer, right wing conspiracy theorist.
    Call me what you want, just don’t call me stupid

    #88123
    IRunInTheSand
    Participant

    Pharmacist Tips on Ordering Ivermectin

    Pharmacist Tips on Ordering Ivermectin

    “Ivermectin is the gun. Zinc is the bullet”

    “We de-worm horses once a year but why not ourselves?”

    #88124
    Germ
    Participant

    Welcome to our new world.
    Sickening.

    #88125
    Starfish
    Participant

    @LudwigVon well, if you‘re not allowed to go inside to follow the call of nature, there is only really one place left, right? I mean, you ARE allowed to conduct your business on the terrace, so to speak, aren’t you? I reckon it‘s a bit simpler if you‘re a man, but hey – desperate times call for desperate measures. 😉

    #88126
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Regarding PSYOPS:

    Following the successful pysop of yellow journalism declaring that Spain attacked the USS Maine, (Remember the Maine! To hell with Spain!) politiks & journalism were never the same…

    The robber barons became so emboldened by the gullible nature of the public that they unleashed the Creature from Jekyll Island (ie The Federal Reserve), which slowly but surely became the corrupting power that led to TPTB’s defacto capture of the U$ Government.

    The 2020 election psyops, the culmination of the coup against Trump, clearly shows that anything is possible with the serfs…

    Every announcement from the apparatchiks & quislings in .GOV are clearly lies, mixed with less & less truth, meant to support psyops both current & future.

    Just typing these words is depressing as hell, because it’s gotten so bad I fully expect the innocent to suffer under the imperial madness to an extant I do not want to fathom…

    My job now is to save, shelter & protect the least of these from poisonous hoards of evil.

    FWFS

    #88127
    Nomanisanisland
    Participant

    I’ve been concerned for some time about the mRNA based vaccines and whether they actually modify one’s genes – does a recipient become a Genetically Modified Organism? Is the vaccine a GMO?

      (All emphasis under-lined is mine)

    From: Genetic Modification The New Zealand Approach
    https://environment.govt.nz/assets/Publications/Files/genetic-modification-nz-approach.pdf

    Genetic modification (GM) is a technology for altering the genetic make-up (the DNA) of living organisms so they are able to make new substances or perform new or different functions.

    Like all organisms new to New Zealand, genetically modified organisms potentially have positive or negative effects on the environment, the economy and our society. This is because different organisms have different characteristics, and their risks and benefits will depend on where and how each organism is used.

      For this reason, New Zealand’s evaluations of genetically modified organisms are based on the principle of case-by-case assessment.

    What is a genetically modified organism?
    A ‘genetically modified organism’ is a plant, animal, insect or micro-organism whose genetic make-up has been changed using modern laboratory techniques.

    What can be genetically modified?
    Humans. Genetic modification of human cells has the potential for treating diseases. One approach, gene therapy, delivers ‘corrected’ genes into selected cells in the body to treat diseases caused by an absence of an important gene, such as in cystic fibrosis

    GENETIC MODIFICATION IN NEW ZEALAND
    The Hazardous Substances and New Organisms Act 1996 (HSNO Act) regulates research into and release of all living things that do not already exist in New Zealand, including those that are genetically modified. The HSNO Act applies to anything that can potentially grow, reproduce and be reproduced, whether or not it is also a food or a

      medicine.
      Releasing a genetically modified organism in New Zealand without approval is illegal.
      Public input is an important part of this process. All applications to release a genetically modified organism or field test a genetically modified organism in containment must be publicly notified and go through a public consultation process.

    GENETICALLY MODIFIED MEDICINES AND FOOD
    What genetically modified medicines are sold in New Zealand
    Some medicines used in New Zealand are manufactured by a process that uses a genetically modified organism. In the majority of these cases, a bacterium or yeast will be modified to enable it to produce a naturally occurring human protein. The resulting medicine (ie, the protein) will not typically contain any DNA (modified or otherwise), and the protein will be chemically very similar or identical to that normally produced in humans. In other words, while the protein is produced through a process involving genetic modification, the protein itself is not genetically modified. Up to 30 of these types of medicines, such as insulin and human growth hormones, have been approved for use in New Zealand.

    Some medicines, such as vaccines, may contain live genetically modified organisms but none have yet been approved by the Environmental Risk Management Authority (ERMA) for use in New Zealand.

      (As of publication date March 2021. Medsafe formally made the decision to provisionally approve the vaccine in New Zealand on 3 February 2021. Obviously the official documentation has not been updated)

    What controls are there on medicines?
    Medicines must be approved by the Minister of Health under the Medicines Act 1981. Only then can they be distributed or sold as medicines.
    If a medicine contains a live organism that has been genetically modified, both the Minister of Health and ERMA (under the HSNO Act) must approve its use.

      (ERMA – Environmental Risk Management Authority was disestablished and replaced by the EPA – Environmental Protection Agency in June 2011)

    From the EPA website:
    https://www.epa.govt.nz/about-us/our-role-in-covid-19-vaccines/
    Our role in approving COVID-19 vaccines
    A manufacturer or importer is required to have approval from us if a vaccine contains a new organism or genetically modified organisms (GMOs).

    Public consultation
    If a manufacturer applies to the us to test or release a vaccine containing a new organism or genetically modified organism, our Chief Executive has the discretion to consider such applications under a rapid approval pathway.

      Under the rapid approval pathway, there is no public consultation. The final decision is published on our website

    .
    Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine
    Pfizer applied to us to formally determine whether its COVID-19 vaccine is considered a new organism in New Zealand.
    The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine BNT162b2 has been engineered using technologies that can also be used to create genetically modified organisms.

    Decision-making committee decided it is not a new organism
    In February 2021, an EPA decision-making committee examined the characteristics of the Pfizer vaccine, including what it does, how it is made, and whether it could be considered a new organism.

      The committee found that, because the vaccine is unable to replicate itself, it does not meet the definition of a new organism.
      …The vaccine can’t replicate itself…

    From:
    https://www.epa.govt.nz/community-involvement/science-corner/sars-cov-2-vaccines-and-the-hsno-act/

    … the spike protein is one of the major proteins that our immune systems recognise to begin to fight off the virus. This is why the leading vaccines are designed to use the spike protein to generate a protective immune response against future infections.
    The BNT162b2 vaccine is made up of

      (Genetically)

    engineered messenger RNA (mRNA) molecules encapsulated in a lipid nanoparticle capsule.
    The mRNA in the BNT162b2 vaccine

      contains the genetic code to make one (and only one) protein – the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.

    The thing about normal mRNAs in our cells is that a lot of them get made every day, but most of them are quickly broken down once they’ve done their jobs (some in only a matter of minutes!) and their building blocks are recycled in the cell.

      Also, since the spike protein mRNA is not an RNA encoded by one of our own genes, it is recognised and targeted by our immune systems to be broken down.

    Although we want a strong immune response to the vaccine, we want it to be against the spike protein, and not against its mRNA!
    To solve this problem, the

      BNT162b2 mRNA has a modified nucleotide building block

    that doesn’t affect its ability to function as an mRNA, but instead makes it less of a target for our immune systems. It also turns out that this modification makes the mRNA easier to be deciphered into proteins by ribosomes,

      so they can make more of the spike protein faster.

    This means that the spike protein mRNA remains in our cells longer before it’s broken down, and at the same time

      allows more spike protein to be made at a faster rate

    .
    At the beginning of the RNA code for the spike protein, there’s a special sequence that encodes something called a signal peptide. This sequence tells the cell that the protein the signal is attached to should be shuttled out of the cell. Once it’s out there,

      our immune cells recognise the secreted spike protein as foreign, and the immune response begins.

    The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and the EPA
    All the biotechnology that went into making BNT162b2 puts it at an intersection that has EPA at the corner, because one of our jobs is to regulate all genetically modified organisms (GMOs) in Aotearoa. This is part of our job in regulating new organisms under the Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (HSNO) Act.

      As I explained above, the Pfizer vaccine has mRNA that was created outside of cells, and this is one of criteria for saying whether something is a GMO

    .
    But it’s not the only criterion. That “something” also has to be an organism.

      This “organism” criterion is why the EPA doesn’t generally regulate RNA, because it is a substance, and not an organism

    .
    But with the Pfizer vaccine, there’s clearly a lot more going on than just RNA, so a reasonable person at the border responsible for giving the regulatory tick to the vaccine might have some doubt about whether or not they were looking at a GMO.

      The remedy for this uncertainty is to ask the EPA. This is because the HSNO Act also allows us to determine whether or not an organism is a new organism – or if something is even an organism at all

    , if that is where the question lies.

    To ensure the vaccine would not be held up at our border as a potential new organism, Pfizer agreed that going through the statutory procedure to determine if BNT162b2 is a new organism was an appropriate thing to do.

    In the EPA’s determination process (which has a lot of moving parts, but I’m cutting a long story short), a

      Decision-Making Committee (DMC) thoroughly considered whether BNT162b2 could be seen as an organism at all. One criterion in the HSNO Act for being an organism is being capable of replicating itself. The DMC decided that the only thing that BNT162b2 was capable of producing was the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, and not more copies of itself. On this basis, the DMC determined that BNT162b2 did not meet any of the criteria for it to be called an organism.

    Hmmm…
    So in a lab we create mRNA that has been modified to create a new and novel protein, inject it into people whose cells take in that modified code and begin to make a modified protein. One specifically modified to hide from our innate immune system.
    But since the original mRNA was not made in a cell it is not an organism. It is a substance.
    A Genetically Modified Substance that causes your cells to replicate said substance and hide itself from your immune system.
    What a nice way to get around the law that requires public consultation:
    Genetically modify people’s cells to make the Genetically Modified Organism Substance!

    Tada! Fixed that pesky law that would prevent the release into our GMO-free environment of the first GMO vaccine, one that has not completed safety trials and is being shown to be hopelessly ineffective.

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