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Laura Knight The Green Sea, Lamorna 1918

 

 

The Automatic Earth’s resident doctor, John Day MD, who’s about to lose his job for refusing to be vaccinated, has compiled a list of OTC prophylactics and treatments for Covid, and specified dosages.

 

 

John Day MD: I have gotten a lot of questions from people during the Delta-COVID peak this summer about OTC supplements and repurposed medicines to self-treat COVID, other than staying home alone and awaiting the inevitable, as is routinely advised. All of this advice applies to pregnant women. That is a group with a lot of questions. I am deeply disturbed at how expectant-mothers are being treated by the medical machine these days.

Firstly, don’t use ibuprofen or Aleve. Do not use NSAIDs when sick with COVID-19. I saw information from China in February 2020, and again from France in April 2020 that NSAIDs like these worsened hospital patient outcomes. I don’t know how confirmed that is, nor do I want to await further word. It is easy to avoid them, and they interfere with the anticoagulant effects of aspirin, anyway, which matters, as will be explained.

Support the normal functioning of your immune system with Vitamin-D. Every B-cell and T-cell in your immune system has vitamin-D receptors on it and won’t work properly and intelligently if a lot of them are empty. For most people, in the long term, 5000 units per day of vitamin D-3 (the kind you can buy) is a good dose, and will get people into the normal range. Exceptions to that are people who absorb it poorly and metabolize it poorly. Those people are the ones who still have a low level after months of taking 5000 units per day. You have to do the test to know you need more. People with a lot of body fat distribute their dose into a larger fat volume, and often need more.

A person who has a body weight over 100 kg (220 lb.) might do better to take 10,000 units per day. Checking a blood test after at least 3 months would help confirm what is best. Taking 10,000 units per day for the first month or 2, in order to normalize blood level is good. What is the ideal one time dose of vitamin-D to normalize one’s blood level, assuming a low starting point? A lot of effort has gone into answering that question, and it can be found here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC4128480/#R34

Vitamin D3 doses >300,000 IU were similarly effective in patients with 25(OH)D concentrations >20 ng/mL; all 3 studies (29,34,39) observed mean concentrations >30 ng/mL at 4 weeks, though the results peaked at day 3 (reaching 67.1 ± 17.1 ng/mL from 21.7 ± 5.6 at baseline) in the study of Rossini et al (34). Sanders et al (29) showed long-term efficacy of a 500,000 IU dose; the 25(OH)D concentration remained >30 ng/mL at 12 weeks and was significantly increased at 1 year in a cohort of women with osteoporosis.

That dose, 300,000 International Units of vitamin D3, by mouth, corresponds to #60 pills of 5000 units, a month’s worth of taking 2 pills per day. The level peaked at mid-normal in 3 days, and stayed in the normal range at 30 days. An even higher dose, a whole #100 pill bottle of 5000 unit vitamin-D pills produced a 12 week blood level that was still normal. People are very, very reluctant to take that many vitamin-D pills at once, even when they are sick with COVID. I’m sure of that. People give me feedback. “Trust the science”, or something. All I can do is give my best advice, with references.

Here is a flashback to “Vitamin-D Christmas”: https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/12/vitamin-d-christmas.html

 

Jumping to Z-for-zinc, this paper is the Gospel of Zinc, which has been shown effective against coronavirus “common colds” since 1996, reducing severity and shortening duration of illness. Zinc is clearly good, but it needs to get inside of the cells in order to directly interfere with viral replication. It is nice to have zinc adequacy when you get inoculated with COVID, but you can sure increase your dose when you get a positive test result. In most cases, prophylactic zinc supplementation was more effective than therapeutic proceedings (106–108, 111). Up to 30% of the everyday respiratory infections, briefly named “common cold,” are due to infections with coronaviruses (112).

Studies showed reduced symptom severity, reduced frequency, and duration of the common cold after zinc administration (99, 100, 113, 114) depending on dosage, zinc compound and the start time after initial symptoms (115)…..Zinc supplementation improves the mucociliary clearance, strengthens the integrity of the epithelium, decreases viral replication, preserves antiviral immunity, attenuates the risk of hyper-inflammation, supports anti-oxidative effects and thus reduces lung damage and minimized secondary infections…
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.01712/full

What is the optimum preventive-dosing of zinc? The prophylactic dose needs to assure zinc adequacy, without crowding out the absorption of copper. 12 – 25 mg per day seems to be an agreed recommendation. Not exceeding 50 mg/day prophylactically is also broadly agreed. (We get about 12 mg/d in a supplement and eat lots of fresh vegetables.)

What about taking zinc when you are sick with coronavirus? What should be done differently? This gets fancier, and includes quercetin, a plant polyphenol found in foods from onions to green tea. Quercetin acts as a zinc-ionophore and helps zinc get into human cells, including human cells infected with coronavirus, where it inhibits viral production. Taking quercetin together with zinc during active infection has been advised in treatment protocols since at least June 2020, when I first saw it. I was having difficulty prescribing hydroxychloroquine, because of the medical politics which had arisen after President the-Donald had advocated for it.

It was already in fairly wide use by that time. One good thing about HCQ is that it is a zinc ionophore, so I was looking for alternate zinc ionophores, and had heard that quercetin was the main one, especially the available one. I did not get a good idea of how long quercetin persists in the bloodstream after ingestion. That would be expensive to study…

What has been studied is quercetin absorption from the gut, which is poor, but helped by taking it with a meal. It turns out that taking a little lecithin with your quercetin can increase absorption by up to 20 X. They call the mix of 250 mg quercetin + 250 mg sunflower lecithin, in a gel-cap, “Quercetin Phytosome”. We ordered some after seeing this article: Other benefits of quecetin against SARS-CoV-2 are also postulated. They didn’t give zinc, just “quercetin phytosome”.

Results: The results revealed a reduction in frequency and length of hospitalization, in need of non-invasive oxygen therapy, in progression to intensive care units and in number of deaths. The results also confirmed the very high safety profile of quercetin and suggested possible anti-fatigue and pro appetite properties.
https://www.dovepress.com/possible-therapeutic-effects-of-adjuvant-quercetin-supplementation-aga-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-IJGM

Ground-laying research about the highly-bioavailable formulation, “quercetin phytosome”, mixed with lecithin, and readily available in the retail market.
Quercetin (3,3′ ,4′ ,5,7-pentahydroxyflavone) is a natural flavonoid compound widely found in vegetables, fruits, and nuts. Major dietary sources of quercetin are apple, onions, tomatoes, broccoli, lettuce, and black and green tea… increasing the water solubility of quercetin would enhance its oral bioavailability…

A more soluble formulation of quercetin based on lecithin, Quercetin Phytosome, has recently been developed, and was found to facilitate the attainment of very high plasma levels of quercetin -up to 20 times more than usually obtained following a dose of quercetin- when the novel formulation was administered orally in human volunteers, and it did not have any notable side effects .
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6418071/

 

COVID has 2 phases , which the Chinese already explained in early 2020. The first week of symptoms (which begins about 5 days after exposure/inoculation) and the second week, where the person either improves with the antibody response the body makes, or gets deathly ill from it. In the second week the battlefield against the virus, and virus-producing cells, lays waste to organs like the lungs, kidneys, blood vessels and heart.

People with inflammatory conditions, like diabetes and obesity, are prone to get hit much harder in the second week. This is the time that people crash fast and get put on high dose steroids and blood thinners in the hospital, to reduce the collateral damage, the “Cytokine Storm”. Those treatments are not over-the-counter. There are some accommodations you can make in anticipation of that. You might decide to take a 325 mg aspirin or two per day, and 1000 mg of vitamin-C three times per day before you get to the second week. The potential benefits outweigh the risks for those with hypertension, diabetes, and obesity..

The more inflammation-prone should take 2 X 325 mg Aspirin per day, to get full benefit of the anticoagulant effect. All the inflammation makes micro clots through the circulation of lungs and kidneys, even brain and heart, and sometimes big clots, too causing overt occlusion of blood supply to heart, lungs and brain.

Vitamin-C has a benefit to cleaning up the oxidative damage and debris where the immune system is fighting the virus, and blasting infected cells with little oxidative-bombs. 1000 mg of vitamin-C 3 times per day is a modest dose in this context. It has been used up to 10X that dose IV in hospital studies last year.

 

(Astepro).   I admit that I am stretching a bit to include this as OTC, but it is approved as such. I would spray it up both nostrils twice per day ASAP.
  The 0.15% strength of azelastine nasal spray is now approved for nonprescription treatment of rhinitis – a common allergy to pollens, dust mites, mold and more — in adults and children 6 years of age or older, the agency said. The 0.1% strength remains a prescription product for younger children.
https://www.webmd.com/allergies/news/20210622/fda-approves-first-otc-nasal-spray-for-allergies

Azelastin, hydroxyzine and diphenhydramine were found to inhibit SARS-CoV-2 replication in cell cultures. They are available antihistamines.
Among the three medications, azelastine was found to inhibit the SARS-CoV-2 virus at a dose that was smaller than the amount prescribed as a nasal spray . The other two antihistamines required higher drug concentrations than currently recommended dosing levels to achieve antiviral activity in cells.
https://ufhealth.org/news/2020/existing-antihistamine-drugs-show-effectiveness-against-covid-19-virus-cell-testing

Famotidine (Pepcid) was found to reduce COVID-19 progression, severity and deaths last summer. It likely inhibits cytokine storm effects, but that is not certain. The dose I heard the best reports on was 60 mg 3 times per day, more than cited in the range here: 20-40 mg twice per day should work to full effect..

Impact of Famotidine Use on Clinical Outcomes of Hospitalized Patients With COVID-19
   Famotidine use in hospitalized patients with COVID-19 is associated with a lower risk of mortality, lower risk of combined outcome of mortality and intubation, and lower levels of serum markers for severe disease in hospitalized patients with COVID-19…

  Famotidine was administered orally in 83% of cases and intravenously in the remaining 17%. Dosing for oral administered famotidine was 20 mg/d in 95.2% of cases and 40 mg/d in the remaining 4.8% of cases. Intravenous famotidine was administered as a 20 mg/2 mL solution in all cases, For inpatient famotidine use, the median total dose was 80 mg (range 40–160 mg) and was received over a median of 4 days (range 2–8 days).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC7473796/

  You might well take 10 mg Zyrtec (cetirizine) twice per day with your Pepcid.
A more recent cohort study used cetirizine and famotidine in hospitalized patients with severe to critical pulmonary symptoms. This study confirmed beneficial reductions in inpatient mortality and symptom progression , probably by minimizing the histamine-mediated cytokine storm
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC7833340/

  This article is sparse on details, but the Pepcid + Zyrtec combination might be what they used to treat long-COVID.

Antihistamines might be effective in long-COVID
  Regarding therapeutic intervention, almost 60% reduction in symptom burden was observed in long-COVID patients treated with histamine receptor antagonists. Specifically, of 25 patients in the treatment group, 5 reported complete resolution of all symptoms, 13 reported improvements, 6 reported no change, and 1 reported deterioration of symptoms.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210608/Antihistamines-might-be-effective-in-long-COVID.aspx

 

  The media, Tony Fauci and the AMA have been beating really hard on ivermectin, the stupid people who use it and the criminals who prescribe it. 

Ivermectin is not over the counter in the US.
WARNING
: If you take an ivermectin dose to deworm 50 horses, 500 times a typical human dose, you might get sick and die, maybe.

In a trial on human volunteers, doses of 60, 90, and 120 mg were included to establish a significant safety margin for administration of this drug. No central nervous system effects, using pupil size as the parameter, were detected at the maximum dose level. No adverse events were reported in subjects who received 120 mg of ivermectin, which is 10 times the proposed dose of 0.2 mg/kg for treatment of scabies . There was minimal accumulation following multiple dosing (three times per week) with ivermectin, which was consistent with the half-life in the body of about one day.

A safety margin of ten times the recommended dose sounds good, but it gets better. During a program for treating children with scabies in the Solomon Islands, an 8 mg/kg accidental overdose (40 times the recommended dose) in a child caused acute emesis, mydriasis and sedation which rapidly reversed . In a study of poisoning due to ivermectin and the related molecule avermectin, 

“Seven patients manifested severe symptoms, such as coma (7), aspiration with respiratory failure (4), and hypotension (3), after a mean ingestion of 100.7 mg/kg avermectin (15.4 mg/kg for ivermectin and 114.9 mg/kg for abamectin). One of the seven patients died, the other six recovered. This was from an average of 500 times the recommended dose rate.
https://wentworthreport.com/ivermectin-safety-profile/

Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/

Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19 (We wanted to hike Machu Picchu last summer, so I was paying a lot of attention to Peru. The mountainous regions were handing out ivermectin and having very low case counts and deaths, compared to the cities. Last winter Peru got a new president, who outlawed ivermectin. Look what happened:)


 

 

 

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  • #86476

    Laura Knight The Green Sea, Lamorna 1918     The Automatic Earth’s resident doctor, John Day MD, who’s about to lose his job for refusing to
    [See the full post at: OTC COVID Rxs, Azelastin to Zinc]

    #86479
    Boogaloo
    Participant

    Great post worth saving. I recall Chris Martenson mentioning that EGCg is another OTC supplement that works as a zinc ionophore. He also mentioned the Quercetin as another option.

    #86482
    jo6pac
    Participant

    I’ve been using D&C and Zinc since the beginning. When I got the virus I was sick for 72hrs and then it was gone. I then went through a spell a few moths later of having no balance. It went away after 2 weeks. I finally received my Human ivermectin and took it over 7 days and I haven’t any problem since.

    Thanks Doc. for the info you have given every one and stay safe

    #86486
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Many thanks for this. I’m particularly happy to read about taking these very high doses of vitamin D as being equivalent to consuming a whole bottle at once. I’d done the calculation myself and thought that I must have got something wrong in the conversion from IU to microgrammes.

    I have quercetin plus vitamin C in one pill, I shall look for the one with phytosome. I also read a research paper which suggested that quercetin works to break up prions, if so, that would be great for the jabbed and also for the recovered. If quercetin works by helping the zinc get into the cells, wouldn’t it be worth taking it prophylactically?

    I hope you get to keep your job or at least get quickly reinstated once it becomes obvious that the shots aren’t useful in combatting the disease.

    #86488
    zerosum
    Participant

    Thanks for your info.
    I will want to keep it.
    I still have a question.

    Would having a strengthened immune system with Vitamin C,D, and Zinc minimize the negative effects of the vaccines?

    It is nice to have zinc adequacy when you get inoculated with COVID

    Zinc supplementation improves the mucociliary clearance, strengthens the integrity of the epithelium, decreases viral replication, preserves antiviral immunity, attenuates the risk of hyper-inflammation, supports anti-oxidative effects and thus reduces lung damage and minimized secondary infections…
    Not exceeding 50 mg/day prophylactically is also broadly agreed.

    #86493
    TDub
    Participant

    Thank you. Lots of good information here.

    #86499
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ Doc Robinson
    Yes.
    (I’m having trouble posting)

    You might be interested in this:
    OTC Medicines & Nutraceuticals to Prevent/Reduce COVID Post-Vaccination Side Effects
    https://c19protocols.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/COVID-Vaccination-Side-Effect-Reducing-OTC-Medicines-and-Nutraceuticals.pdf

    from this site:
    https://c19protocols.com/

    #86501
    zerosum
    Participant

    Cut and paste from the pdf is causing the posting problem.

    #86504
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Great post thanks! In view of the waning effectiveness of the vaccines, having other treatments available may be vital.

    OTC in Texas might not be OTC in Australia. A research project awaits me!

    #86507
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    Thank you so much for this.
    What crazy times we live in – the main way to get good information on how to stay healthy in covid times is to consult someone who is not paid to give it.

    #86509
    boilingfrog
    Participant

    Good afternoon (here in Appalachia),

    I had an appointment with my family doc this morning, an MD/Ph.D, and i asked about the ivermectin controversy.

    He very politely told me: (1) there are no studies out of the NIH showing it to be effective, and (2) used in a prophylactic manner, it is very destructive to the liver. One or two doses, okay. Taking it for a week, or two, or longer is not good.

    Does anybody have more to add?

    After mandating the vaccine for everyone on campus, our local (big) state university had a home football game Friday evening, the season opener.

    (1) the team they played had no vaccine mandate; and (2) fans were asked to wear masks “going to and from their seats, but not in their seats”; the school does not test the vaccinated.

    Another home game this weekend, we’ll see if numbers get a bump in about two weeks. Of course, it’ll beblamed on the vaccinated.

    #86510
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    Thank you John Day. The details matter! And the support strategies utilizing vitamins, zinc and other items are incredibly important. May I add bone broth and essential oil distillation (Thieves Oil) to the OTC discussion?

    On the IVM dosing, my recent Covid experiences may offer insight. When I knew “something” had hit me I waited a day to see what would develop. On the second day it was obvious, so I started on IVM 12mg (my weight is 127 lbs) using an early protocol. – and continued with IVM 2 more days and again on day 7. I got immediate relief of some symptoms. Within a week it was mostly resolved. Covid has two phases as you remind us, and my guess is that mine did not progress to phase 2?

    My boyfriend on the other hand did not fare well. About 5 days after my onset, his symptoms were beyond obvious and I started him on the IVM using an early protocol @ 2mg/kg = 15mg, days 1,2,3 and 7. Not much improvement a week in and some things actually got worse, fast! Phase 2 had kicked in? In a panic (yes, was scared) dug deeper and accessed the FLCCC I-MASK document – immediately upped the IVM to 4mg/kg = 28mg. After 5 day/nights of multiple drenching night sweats, 102 degree night fevers and 100 degree day fevers, oximeter readings as low as 84 (nearly lost my mind over that one), shallow fast breathing – it finally peaked. The level of personal management to keep him going was intense – every few hours all night long cool compresses, please drink this water, aspirin, dry bedding, witch hazel rubs, oil diffused air, begging you to drink this water, and more. am thankful to have been available to offer what was needed.

    NOTE: the oximeter is something everyone should have – get yours now and play with it to determine your baseline numbers. That way should you encounter Covid phase 2, you will know what is an alarming change!

    In retrospect, I should have started my sweetHeart on the Post Covid Exposure Prevention the minute MY infection was evident: 4mg/kg day 1 and same dose 48 hours later.

    Second thing is that the protocol has EVOLVED. The higher dosages are essential from first signs that something is up. The higher dosages I mention here are not anything close to some the numbers being tossed out to discredit IVM.

    As for the IVM, I am still taking 12mg every 3rd day while caring for Mark (with his active infection). Will go to once a week once he is clear. The IVM has had an interesting impact on me – it feels like a complete and total “clearing out” has happened. Maybe clearing residual virus and fungal issues stuck hiding deep inside?

    I am not the only one who has something to say about this: the Kunstler comment from the other day stood out: “As it happens, I take the veterinary-grade Ivermectin myself as a prophylactic, because that’s all you can get easily around here. I haven’t felt better in years. Perhaps I had pinworms (Enterobius vermicularis). ”

    The TAE community gave me the information, insight, and inspiration to implement and succeed in this attack against Covid. I am grateful.

    LOVE to all.
    Susan

    #86512
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    @sumac.carol:

    “What crazy times we live in – the main way to get good information on how to stay healthy in covid times is to consult someone who is not paid to give it. ”

    May I add this to the end? …consult someone who is not paid to give it and hear from someone who has lived it.

    Which brings me to a key point – the TAE forum is a place to find both.

    #86516
    hexadec
    Participant

    John Day I’m puzzled. You say don’t use NSAID when sick with COVID-19, then write about using aspirin. I thought aspirin was an NSAID, so checked online and see aspirin listed as one. Can you clarify? Thanks

    #86517
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    To clarify when Marks symptoms got worse: upped the IVM to 4mg/kg = 28mg TAKEN DAILY. Important detail to follow.

    #86518
    Dimitri
    Participant

    Thank you Dr John. You are a treasure. Your help in my moment of distress was precious. God bless you.

    #86519

    Australia, you are face to face with evil.
    No vax, no health care. Daniel Andrews, (labor) Victoria.

    #86530
    laceration
    Participant

    Thanks for the info Dr. I live up at the 46th parallel and found out a few years ago from a routine blood test that I was drastically low of Vit. D. I have been on it ever since. Something else that I have been doing, I do not even remember what made me think of it or when I started — I think it was early on in this covid episode — is use those Ricolla Menthol drops. Whenever I get a sore throat, which happens somewhat frequently and which I interpret as a virus or something trying to colonize there, I will pop one or two. It always goes away and it always clears congestion too. Would it go away if I did not use these? Probably, but they taste good and clear out the sinuses + could very well be helpful.

    #86535
    redshift
    Participant

    Thank you John Day and Raúl.

    #86539
    John Day
    Participant

    @Zerosum: having a good vitamin-D level should reduce a person’s risk of vaccine adverse events. I have seen a lot of other different advice, but I don’t know the basis of it, so I can’t judge it. An aspirin per day for vaccine day, for about 2 weeks, 81 mg or 325 mg, should reduce clotting risks. One would repeat that twice for a 2 shot vaccine. I don’t believe it has been studied.


    @Hexadec
    : Yes, aspirin is an NSAID, but it is used daily at relatively low doses as a blood thinner, reducing platelet aggregation. This is a routine medical distinction, setting the first NSAID apart from the others, when used to reduce clotting risks.

    #86540
    John Day
    Participant

    @Dimitri: You are welcome. I hope she’s better.

    #86541
    John Day
    Participant

    @Susmarie108: You mean 0.4 mg/kg as an ivermectin dose, not 4 mg.kg, though you would suffer no real harm at the horse dose.
    You would waste precious ivermectin…
    It’s harder and harder to get ahold of.

    #86543
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    John Day: YES on IVM dosage @ 0.2mg/kg per pound of body weight and on 0.4mg/kg per pound of body weight. Thank you for correcting me. Those are the numbers I used.

    #86545
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    John Day: WRONG AGAIN….YES on IVM dosage @ 0.2mg/kg and on 0.4mg/kg. I should not be commenting until I get some sleep.

    #86552
    WES
    Participant

    John Day:

    Thank you for the update regarding 250 mg of quercetin combined with 250 mg of lecithin. I am only on the quercetin plus 25 mg of zinc so will look for Quercetin Phytosome.

    #86554
    chris_gee
    Participant

    I wonder if magnesium (preferably with calcium) should be added to that list as an aid to D3 utilisation. I note that plasma Mg levels (the usual test) can be quite different to intra-cellular Mg, as shown by research. It was also my experience with severe frequent coronary artery spasm.

    #86555
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Laura Knight The Green Sea, Lamorna 1918

    What a gorgeous gorgeous painting…

    #86557
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Dr. John
    Many, many thanks for all you do; here @TAE and “the” clinic in Texas.
    The very best of luck in your travails with the galoots…

    #86558
    Boogaloo
    Participant

    He very politely told me: (1) there are no studies out of the NIH showing it to be effective, and (2) used in a prophylactic manner, it is very destructive to the liver. One or two doses, okay. Taking it for a week, or two, or longer is not good.

    Liver damage is only the beginning. Two weeks after that you start to grow a mane, then your hands and feet start to harden until they turn to hooves, then you grow a tail, then your teeth grow longer, and finally you end up with an insatiable appetite for apples.

    #86559
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @Boogaloo
    Liver damage is only the beginning. Two weeks after that you start to grow a mane, then your hands and feet start to harden until they turn to hooves, then you grow a tail, then your teeth grow longer, and finally you end up with an insatiable appetite for apples.

    Hilarious…nicely done…
    V

    #86560
    bpeptide
    Participant

    @JohnDay – thank you very much for posting and sharing the early treatment options. It is a shame and crime of the century that doctors cannot offer or promote these treatment options without ridicule, censorship and risk of employment. Thank you for your courage.

    #86583
    John Day
    Participant

    @WES: The quercetin phytosome product is more expensive and not in stores. Any quercetin and some cheap lecithin granules will do.

    @V.Arnold and bpeptide: Thank Y’all. This is only the beginning of a long war, a class-war.
    If the current owners/masters collapse, don’t crow too early. The second phase after that is really dangerous. If they hold, how long…? Then what…?

    #86625
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    John Day
    Add another kudos to the collection, finding a practitioner of medicine is becoming a rare occurrence this era, difficult at best in the orthodoxy minded European profession. European media not only follows their counterpart in that space between Mexico and Canada but earnestly tries to outdo them, failing miserably as well.

    About your potential problems at the clinic. Maybe they should be reminded that with proposed dismissal, the cost of your education and training in time, effort, treasure plus the costs of opening one’s medical office, the insurance costs encountered over a period of five years to become reestablished professionally, just might be asked of them in front of a judge. Ask them if they would be willing to take such a risk. Would be strong grounds to negotiate from.

    Am awaiting a parcel to arrive to obtain prophylactic substances for an anticipated trip to counter what ever exposure may occur. Am un-Vaxxed male, 78.5 orbits, sleep apnea, overweight (99.5 kg), and wonky (atrial fibrillation) all being treated pharmaceutically. On Lixiana 60mg for blood lubrication. My question is taking IVM 12mg x 2 per protocol use be a problem or maybe a beneficial course. Oh yes, the D level 68 ng/ml by recent analysis. I am neither worried or stressed about this virus, after all those 80+ with problems have an eighty percent risk of living according to a Swedish university study in 2020; up to 79 is still 95.65 percent risk of living for the risk adverse.

    #86629
    slimyalligator
    Participant

    Late to the party once again. John Day thanks for all you contribute here, there and everywhere. Anecdotal, while researching Pepcid I came across the following Pepcid comment. Prophylaxis, 20 to 40 mg daily. If sickened 60-80 mg 3 times daily. Monitor O2 saturation every 4 hours. If O2 saturation continues to drop. Use 120 mg 4 times a day until O2 is normal. Patient recovered. No other interventions mentioned

    #86744
    restless94111
    Participant

    I have been taking D (in liquid form) 30,000 IUs per day for 7 years now. I added 50 mg of zinc daily about 5 years ago. I added 100 mcg of Vitamin K2 MK7 earlier this year.

    I have not had a respiratory infection in 7 years. This after having 2 to 4 of them per year all of my life. I haven’t had a cavity, this after having every single tooth in my head with cavities since I was 8 years old (in which I had 10 cavities). My gums have tightened up, Jaw bone structure has improved to such a degree that I was able to support a Maryland Bridge across my bottom front teeth (deemed by dentists before to have not enough underlying bone to support such a procedure0.

    I had to have a cane in 2011 because of severe knee pain. I limped everywhere and tried to fix it with ace bandages binding and glucosamine.

    Within weeks of taking elevated Vitamin D I threw my cane away and all of the Ace bandages.
    It is practically impossible to overdoes on this nutrient. I have taken 100,000 IUs per day for weeks on end.

    My theory is that–all of my life–I was so deficient in D that I am simply replenishing a lifetime of deficient intake. Maybe in a few more years I will reach saturation for a lifetime of lack.

    In the meantime, COVID cannot penetrate a Vitamin D plus Zinc shield. No need for a vaccine. Simply take these two nutrients and don’t worry, be happy.

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