Apr 102025
 


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Trump Hikes China Tariff To 125% (RT)
Trump “Pauses” Reciprocal Tariffs For 90 Days On Every Nation -Except China (ZH)
Trump Tariff Shock Sends Oil To Four-Year Low (RT)
House Republicans Block Democratic Bid to Force Vote on Tariffs (ET)
Trump Admits He Reacted To Stock Market Plunge (RT)
Chinese Companies Could Be Removed From US Stock Markets – Bessent (RT)
Bessent Responds to China Raising Tariffs on US Goods to 84% (Barkoukis)
The EU Is Aligning With China? (CTH)
China Vows to “Fight to the End” in Economic War with America (CTH)
Scott Bessent Provides More Details on Global Trade Reset Strategy (CTH)
DOGE Exposed Our Immigration Asylum Disaster. The Tip of the Iceberg (Ries)
To Team Trump, Tariffs Are a National Security Issue (Saunders)
What Would It Take to Destroy the United States? (Victor Davis Hanson)
Biden White House Secured Trump’s Phone For FBI in Jan. 6 Probe (JTN)
Sen. Kennedy Goes Absolutely Savage on AOC (Margolis)
Ukraine ‘Betrayed’ Its History – Lavrov (RT)
‘European Aggression’ Behind All Global Tragedies – Lavrov (RT)
Kiev Targeting Russian Gas Supplies To Southern Europe – Moscow (RT)
US ‘Just Lost A War With Russia’ – Tucker Carlson (RT)

 

 

 

 

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Things moved and changed so fast through yesterday, there issn’t even a trend visible anymore. We are all over the place. Some of today’s Debt Rattle articles will overlap.

Trump Hikes China Tariff To 125% (RT)

US President Donald Trump has raised the tariffs on Chinese goods to 125% in response to retaliatory measures imposed by Beijing earlier on Wednesday. In a post on his Truth Social platform, Trump wrote that “based on the lack of respect that China has shown to the World’s Markets, I am hereby raising the Tariff charged to China by the United States of America to 125%, effective immediately.” He expressed hope that Beijing would realize that “ripping off the U.S.A., and other Countries, is no longer sustainable or acceptable.” The move came hours after China’s Finance Ministry announced a tariff hike of its own, which brought tariffs levied on American imports to a total of 84%, thus mirroring Washington’s previous increase by 50%.

The continual tit-for-tat escalation of the trade war between the world’s two top economies was set in motion when Trump imposed a 20% tariff on all Chinese goods in March. Last week, he added an additional 34%, to which Beijing responded in kind. Writing on Truth Social, the US president also announced a 90-day pause and a “substantially lowered Reciprocal Tariff during this period, of 10%, also effective immediately” granted to the multitude of other nations that Washington has recently imposed sweeping tariffs on. Trump cited calls made by “more than 75 countries” to the Departments of Commerce, Treasury, and the Office of the United States Trade Representative. According to the president, these nations expressed willingness to discuss trade barriers, tariffs, currency manipulation, and non-monetary tariffs. Trump also pointed out that, unlike China, “these Countries have not, at my strong suggestion, retaliated in any way, shape, or form against the United States.”

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Keep it simple?! Why deal with 100 diffferent countries if you can focus on one?

Trump “Pauses” Reciprocal Tariffs For 90 Days On Every Nation -Except China (ZH)

Update (1320ET): And President Trump finds an off-ramp for non-retaliating countries. The President wrote on his Truth Social account:

“Based on the lack of respect that China has shown to the World’s Markets, I am hereby raising the Tariff charged to China by the United States of America to 125%, effective immediately. At some point, hopefully in the near future, China will realize that the days of ripping off the U.S.A., and other Countries, is no longer sustainable or acceptable. Conversely, and based on the fact that more than 75 Countries have called Representatives of the United States, including the Departments of Commerce, Treasury, and the USTR, to negotiate a solution to the subjects being discussed relative to Trade, Trade Barriers, Tariffs, Currency Manipulation, and Non Monetary Tariffs, and that these Countries have not, at my strong suggestion, retaliated in any way, shape, or form against the United States, … …I have authorized a 90 day PAUSE, and a substantially lowered Reciprocal Tariff during this period, of 10%, also effective immediately. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”

• The result is a massive surge in US equity markets (up 7-9%)…
• …cutting losses post-Liberation Day in half…
• Bitcoin is also soaring…
• Oil prices are also spiking…

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent called China, “the biggest source of US trade problems,” adding that he seeing Japan, Vietnam, India, and South Korea today for negotiations. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick added:. “Scott Bessent and I sat with the President while he wrote one of the most extraordinary Truth posts of his Presidency. The world is ready to work with President Trump to fix global trade, and China has chosen the opposite direction.” Bessent also confirmed that both Mexico and Canada are included in the ‘pause’ (despite what appeared to be retaliation). No mention of Europe yet, which also retaliated. Additionally, Bessent said that the bond market meltdown did not impact this decision… sure!

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Four-year low oil prices. And then yesterday they spiked. Hard to keep up.

Trump Tariff Shock Sends Oil To Four-Year Low (RT)

Oil prices have dropped to their lowest point in over four years, with losses deepening on Wednesday as markets respond to fears of recession and slowing energy demand. Brent crude, the global benchmark, fell to about $61 per barrel, while US West Texas Intermediate (WTI) dropped to around $58, both reaching their lowest levels since February 2021. The slide began after US President Donald Trump announced a round of sweeping tariffs on most imports last week. Since then, prices have tumbled around 16%, as concerns grow that a global trade war could damage growth and reduce fuel consumption. The situation escalated on Wednesday when Trump’s tariffs took effect. While energy imports were exempt, the markets reacted sharply.

The new round of tariffs brings the rate on Chinese goods to 104%, up from the 34% initially announced. China had responded with a matching 34% tariff, prompting the White House to raise the stakes. China’s Commerce Ministry vowed to respond decisively, raising fears of a broader economic slowdown. Analysts worry that prolonged tensions between the two top economies could drag down trade and stifle investment. OPEC and its allies, including Russia, added pressure to the market by announcing a 411,000 barrel-per-day production increase for May. Analysts say this could lead to oversupply and deepen price drops.

“Crude oil has been in free-fall ever since President Trump unveiled fresh tariffs on US imports Wednesday evening,” Trade Nation senior market analyst David Morrison said in a note seen by Business Insider. He added the OPEC+ production boost was a “double whammy.” Morrison said oil prices may stabilize within a narrow range, as investors anticipate weaker demand and strong supply. He noted this trend supports Trump’s goal of providing cheap energy to strengthen manufacturing. The White House has pushed to bring crude prices down to $50 or lower, according to J.P. Morgan. Trump reinforced this goal on Monday, writing on Truth Social: “Oil prices are down, interest rates are down,” while highlighting the benefits of his trade strategy.

Russia was left out of the new tariffs. The White House explained that the existing sanctions already “preclude any meaningful trade,” making further restrictions unnecessary. However, Russia’s central bank warned that the collapse in oil prices and the expanding trade conflict could harm its economy. “If the escalation of the tariff wars continues, this usually leads to a decline in global trade and the global economy, and possibly, demand for our energy resources,” central bank head Elvira Nabiullina said on Tuesday. Russia’s Urals crude also dropped sharply, briefly nearing the $50-per-barrel mark for the first time in almost two years, before recovering to around $67.

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“The president has paused new tariffs on dozens of countries for 90 days and raised levies on Chinese goods to 125 percent.”

These politicians get 1000 calls a day from worried voters. They’re looking for some quiet. They don’t want to get the blame.

People don’t like change. They’ll only admit change is needed when it’s too late.

House Republicans Block Democratic Bid to Force Vote on Tariffs (ET)

House Republicans blocked on April 9 an effort by Democrats to force a vote on halting the reciprocal tariffs imposed by President Donald Trump, which are currently paused for three months. The maneuver was done through a rule, which the House of Representatives must vote on to advance to votes on measures. The House Rules Committee advanced the rule 9-3 on April 9, which mainly deals with the unrelated budget resolution to unlock the reconciliation process to pass Trump’s signature legislative agenda. The rule punts the vote on the resolution to September. The disapproval resolution would block the emergency authority that allowed Trump to enact the tariffs, which were announced on April 2. The reciprocal tariffs took effect at 12:01 a.m. ET on Wednesday.

The resolution was introduced by Reps. Gregory Meeks (D-N.Y.), Rick Larsen (D-Wash.), and Richard Neal (D-Mass.). It has an additional 23 co-sponsors. “By implementing these tariffs, Trump has now imposed the largest and most regressive tax in modern history, sent the stock market into its worst plunge since COVID, and is risking a global recession,” they said in a statement. “These tariffs are nothing more than a sales tax on American families, driving up prices on everything from groceries to cars.” Disapproval resolutions force a vote in the House and Senate, where a simple majority is needed for passage as opposed to being subject to the 60-vote filibuster threshold. The Senate passed a resolution last week to block Trump’s 25 percent and 10 percent tariffs on Canadian goods and energy, respectively. All Democrats and four Republicans voted in favor of it. The House is not expected to take it up, and the president is expected to veto it should it pass Congress. House Republicans blocked a similar disapproval resolution last month through a rule.

Trump announced on Wednesday a 90-day pause on reciprocal tariffs for dozens of countries and retained a baseline 10 percent tariff for all countries, except China. The president increased tariffs to 125 percent on China, after Beijing announced 85 percent retaliatory tariffs on the United States. “At some point, hopefully in the near future, China will realize that the days of ripping off the U.S.A., and other Countries, is no longer sustainable or acceptable,” posted Trump on Truth Social, announcing the pause. The president said he paused most reciprocal tariffs because more than 75 countries have reached out to the administration, requesting trade negotiations.

Congressional Republicans have largely expressed support for Trump’s tariffs. Rep. August Pfluger (R-Texas) told reporters that the president is “making good on a campaign promise to shake things up, to reorder the world system whether it’s trade or whether it’s alliances or military organizations.” Rep. Rich McCormick (R-Ga.) told reporters that the tariffs finally put China on notice. “If China needs our market more than we need their market, because they already put unfair tariffs and regulations and restrictions on us, they’re going to suffer way more from this than we are in a trade war,” he said. “If the rest of the world’s going to come to the table, why shouldn’t China too?” he added.

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“..a little bit yippy, a little bit… afraid..”

“I was watching the bond market. The bond market is very tricky. I was watching it. But if you look at it now, it’s… it’s beautiful..”

Trump Admits He Reacted To Stock Market Plunge (RT)

President Donald Trump has admitted that his decision to delay further tariff hikes was driven in part by a sharp downturn in US financial markets, saying he was closely monitoring investor sentiment as people grew too “yippy” and “afraid” before announcing a 90-day freeze. On Wednesday morning, Trump urged Americans to “be cool” and told investors that “this is a great time to buy,” after US markets lost more than $1.5 trillion in capitalization the day before. The sell-off came ahead of the implementation of a 104% tariff on Chinese imports and sweeping new levies on dozens of other countries. Just hours later, the president announced his decision to keep most tariffs at a “baseline” 10 percent – except for China, which saw its rate raised even further to 125 percent. Speaking to reporters later that day, Trump said he had been tracking the markets closely before taking action.

“I was watching the bond market. The bond market is very tricky. I was watching it. But if you look at it now, it’s… it’s beautiful,” he said. “But, yeah, I saw last night where people were getting a little queasy.” I thought that people were jumping a little bit out of line. They were getting yippy, you know? They were getting a little bit yippy, a little bit… afraid. Trump’s announcement triggered a historic rally on US stock markets. The S&P 500 closed up 9.5 percent – its biggest gain since 2008. The Dow Jones rose 7.9 percent, marking its best day since 2020, while the Nasdaq soared 12 percent, its largest single-day increase in 24 years. While Wednesday’s surge added over $5 trillion in market value, US markets have yet to fully recover losses sustained since the president launched the tariff war last week. Still, Trump insisted his “reciprocal” trade actions marked a turning point.

“The big move wasn’t what I did today. The big move was what I did on Liberation Day. We had Liberation Day in America. We were liberated from all of the horrible trade deals that were made,” he said. Asked whether certain American companies could be granted exemptions during the 90-day period, Trump said the administration would evaluate requests on a case-by-case basis. “Some [companies] get hit a little bit harder, and we’ll take a look at that – just instinctively, more than anything else,” he said. “You almost can’t take a pencil to paper. It’s really more of an instinct.” Trump also cautioned that the situation remains fluid, adding that “nothing is over yet,” with dozens of countries – including China – now seeking to secure “fair” deals with the United States to avoid the full impact of the levies.

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“If China starts devaluing, then that is a tax on the rest of the world, and everyone will have to keep raising their tariffs to offset the devaluation..”

Chinese Companies Could Be Removed From US Stock Markets – Bessent (RT)

Washington is considering delisting Chinese companies from US markets amid the escalating tariff war, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has said. Speaking to Fox Business on Wednesday, Bessent described China’s latest move to raise its tariffs on American goods to a total of 84% as “unfortunate.” The measure was announced after US President Donald Trump increased the tariffs on all Chinese imports to 104% earlier this week. “I think it’s unfortunate that the Chinese actually don’t want to come and negotiate because they are the worst offenders in the international trading system,” Bessent claimed, suggesting that the US could end up imposing even higher tariffs. “If China starts devaluing, then that is a tax on the rest of the world, and everyone will have to keep raising their tariffs to offset the devaluation. So I would urge them not to do that and to come to the table,” he said.

Asked whether Washington is considering delisting Chinese companies from US stock exchanges, Bessent stated that all options are on the table and that it’s up to the president to do so. Currently, 286 Chinese companies, including Alibaba, one of the world’s largest retailers and e-commerce operators, are listed on US stock exchanges. “That will be Trump’s decision,” he said. The new threats come after China introduced an additional 50% tariff – due to take effect on Thursday – on all American goods. The measure comes on top of the previously imposed 34% tariff, China’s Finance Ministry announced earlier on Wednesday. “The US’ practice of escalating tariffs on China is a mistake on top of a mistake, which seriously infringes on China’s legitimate rights and interests and seriously damages the rules-based multilateral trading system,” the ministry said in a statement.

Earlier this week, Beijing vowed to fight the trade war with the US “to the end” and “firmly defend its interests.” Apart from cranking up tariffs, China has filed a complaint with the World Trade Organization against the US over its practices, as well as placing certain American businesses on its ‘unreliable entity’ list or subjecting them to export controls. The escalating trade war comes amid Trump’s efforts to straighten out America’s import-export balance, which involves the introduction of massive retaliatory tariffs on most countries. In March, Trump imposed a 20% tariff on Chinese imports. Last week, he added an additional 34%, bringing the total to 54%. Beijing retaliated in kind, introducing a 34% tariff on US goods – after which Trump added another 50%, bringing the total to 104%.

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“I do business in China. They don’t play by the rules,” he added. “They’ve been in the WTO for decades, they have never abided by any of the rules they agreed to when they came in.”

Bessent Responds to China Raising Tariffs on US Goods to 84% (Barkoukis)

China said it is raising tariffs on U.S. imports from 34 percent to 84 percent starting Thursday, an announcement that came hours after President Trump’s tariffs went into effect. “If the U.S. insists on further escalating its economic and trade restrictions, China has the firm will and abundant means to take necessary countermeasures and fight to the end,” the Ministry of Commerce wrote in a document, reports USA Today. The latest tariffs on the U.S.’s trading partners includes a 104 percent tax on Chinese goods. “It was a mistake for China to retaliate,” White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said Tuesday. “When America is punched, [the president] punches back harder, and that’s why there will be 104% tariffs going into effect on China tonight at midnight.”

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent called the escalation a “loser” for China. “I think it’s unfortunate that the Chinese actually don’t want to come and negotiate because they are the worst offenders in the international trading system,” he said. “And I can tell you that this escalation is a loser for them.” He seemed unfazed by China’s response. “They can raise their tariffs, but so what?” Some argue a 104 percent tariff on Chinese goods doesn’t go far enough. “I’m advocating 400 percent,” Shark Tank star and investor Kevin O’Leary said on CNN’s Laura Coates Live. “I do business in China. They don’t play by the rules,” he added. “They’ve been in the WTO for decades, they have never abided by any of the rules they agreed to when they came in. For decades. They cheat, they steal, they steal IP. I can’t litigate in their courts. They take product technology, they steal it, they manufacture it and sell it back here.”

When Coates followed up, O’Leary doubled down. “I want [President] Xi [Jinping] on an airplane to Washington to level the playing field,” he said. “This is not about tariffs anymore. Nobody has taken on China yet. Not the Europeans. No administration for decades. As someone who actually does business there, I’ve had enough. I speak for millions of Americans who have IP that have been stolen by the Chinese. I have nothing against the Chinese people. They brought great literacy, art and tech to the world. The government cheats and steals and finally an administration — you may not like Trump, you may not like his style or his rhetoric — finally, an administration that puts up and says ‘Enough! 400% tariffs tomorrow morning!’

“I’ll tell you why,” he continued. “Xi can only stay the Supreme Leader if people are employed. If we wipe out any business there because we are still 39 percent of all consumables on Earth and 25 percent of the world’s GDP. America is the No. 1 economy on earth with all the cards. We will not have that forever. It’s time to squeeze Chinese heads into the wall now!”

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“None of these other countries, not even China, not all of them combined, can replace what the U.S. can do for them and has been doing for generations.”

The EU Is Aligning With China? (CTH)

The EU is aligning with China? Yes, and I think “D One” nails it here. “The time for polite pretending is over.” ….”This all makes perfect sense now. Von der Leyen and the rest of the Eurocrat leadership are desperate to avert the Trump tariffs. They cannot do it on their own and do not care who they have to sidle up with to get it done. If it came down to it, they would even ditch Ukraine and align with Russia to make it happen. This is because the money the EU has been getting from the old arrangement of one-sided tariffs and other one-sided trade restrictions is the money they are using to keep the EU in existence. Not just to keep it functioning, but to keep it in power. To keep it in their power.

The internal contradictions and old resentments and national and ethnic differences and animosities are too much to be held down by good will and appeals to altruism alone. It takes money and a lot of it. Consider what happened starting in 2009 with the Greek debt crisis. The northern Europeans (in particular the Germans) believed the Greeks caused the crisis through their own incompetence and mismanagement and they really hated the idea that they had to save the Greeks by bailing them out with their own money. The news reports back then were full of explanations about how the northern European economies had to carry the southern European economies. Stories about how unfair it all was that the harder-working and more frugal northern Europeans were having to face bailing out the easier-going and less diligent southern Europeans, and so on.

Many of you probably remember those reports. I think it gets to the crux of what is going on now regarding the fright and desperation that von der Leyen and the other Eurocrat leaders are now experiencing. What was it that finally smoothed over everything between northern Europe and bailing out and pacifying the Greeks and other struggling countries in southern Europe? It was the access to American dollars that the old trade arrangements provided that allowed them to make the Greek crisis go away without having to hit German and other northern European bank accounts and slow down their economies. Those old trade arrangements were what they relied upon every time there was an internal threat to the stability of the EU. And the whole EU is even weaker now, due in no small part to their stupid green policies and other decisions, than it was in 2009.

Now that Trump is threatening that ability to tamp down their internal contradictions with U.S. money, the next internal crisis may well blow the EU apart for good, and with it the good life of the Eurocrats would disappear. That is why they will side with anyone, even the Chinese, to get the U.S. to back off and let them continue on as they have. Trump has the upper hand with the EU. I think he can pretty much demand anything he wants from them, and they will end up giving it to him. None of these other countries, not even China, not all of them combined, can replace what the U.S. can do for them and has been doing for generations.”

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That was only yesterday morning.

China Vows to “Fight to the End” in Economic War with America (CTH)

Full dragon, no panda mask. Beijing begins using war terminology to discuss the trade conflict with the United States. Through a series of cumulative trade tariffs, President Trump has now placed Chinese imports into the USA in a position of 104% tariffs. 104%! In response Beijing has devalued their currency and dumped treasuries, but no amount of subsidy, devaluation or use of their sovereign wealth fund is going to compensate for 104% taxes on Chinese products. Very soon all purchase orders from the USA for Chinese manufactured products will stop. The Beijing dragon is looking at the future through a zero-sum position. Now, they vow to fight to the death.

BEIJING, April 9 (Xinhua) — With firm will and abundant means, China will resolutely take countermeasures and fight till the end if the United States insists on further escalating economic and trade restrictive measures, China’s Ministry of Commerce said Wednesday. “I want to emphasize that there is no winner in a trade war, and China does not want a trade war, but the Chinese government will by no means sit by when the legitimate rights and interests of its people are being hurt and deprived,” said an official with the ministry. The official made the remarks when responding to media questions regarding a white paper released Wednesday by the State Council Information Office on China’s position on some issues concerning China-U.S. economic and trade relations.”

Noting that the successes of China and the United States are opportunities rather than threats for each other, the official said that China hopes the United States will immediately remove its unilateral imposition of tariffs, and work with China to strengthen dialogue, manage differences, and promote cooperation. China is willing to communicate with the U.S. side on key bilateral economic and trade issues, address their respective concerns through dialogue and consultations on an equal footing, and jointly advance the steady, healthy and sustainable development of China-U.S. economic and trade relations, the official noted.

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“The objective was to give all nations’ time to absorb the impact while reducing the reverberation noise.”

Scott Bessent Provides More Details on Global Trade Reset Strategy (CTH)

Appearing 4/8/25 on CNBC, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent outlined some of the specifics within the negotiation strategy of President Trump as it pertains to the ongoing global trade reset. Bessent notes at the request of President Trump, all administration officials were to pull back from commentary following the “liberation day” tariff announcement. The objective was to give all nations’ time to absorb the impact while reducing the reverberation noise. After a few days, President Trump then began to assess the inbound communication from various country leaders and their request for renegotiation. The priority schedule permits the honest trade allies to come first in the queue to the office of U.S. Trade Representative Jamison Greer, as approved by President Trump.

Japan and South Korean delegations and trade representatives will be the first trade teams engaged; not coincidently both of those ASEAN nations have pre-positioned manufacturing investment in the USA, the truest measure of a trade partnership. The outcome of these first agreements will form the baseline for every nation thereafter. Both Japan and South Korea have North American manufacturing systems in place; however, it is likely more investment in U.S jobs and products being created in mainland USA will remain a top priority. Additionally, for these nations the largest element of their “reciprocity” will come from a commitment to reduce the trade deficit with better terms and bigger contracts for U.S. product imports.

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“Under the Biden administration, so many employment documents were issued to immigration parolees (without congressional authorization), asylum applicants, and other temporary aliens that DHS could not keep up with renewing the authorizations..”

DOGE Exposed Our Immigration Asylum Disaster. The Tip of the Iceberg (Ries)

Elon Musk, Antonio Gracias, and the Department of Government Efficiency team recently exposed how rampant immigration fraud and government corruption became under the Joe Biden administration. Specifically, they showed how aliens “getting” asylum can receive work authorization and, with it, an automatic Social Security number, which enables them to obtain driver’s licenses, commit voter fraud, and receive other benefits. This already sounds alarming. But the truth is even worse. Under current U.S. regulations, asylum applicants can apply for a work authorization document with the Department of Homeland Security five months after their asylum application is filed (rather than five months after it’s granted). There’s no filing fee for asylum applications—meaning there is literally no cost involved in applying.

This creates a huge incentive for inadmissible aliens to file fraudulent asylum applications to gain U.S. work authorization. And while adjudicating the asylum application can take DHS or the Justice Department years to complete, DHS prioritizes granting employment authorization applications, averaging mere months to complete such applications. In other words, individuals can fraudulently apply for asylum and then receive work authorization shortly after, safe in the knowledge that their asylum application may not be decided for years. Asylum was created to protect the persecuted. But this system means it’s more prone to be exploited by inadmissible aliens as a way to get work authorizations, Social Security numbers, driver’s licenses, and other government benefits.

As a result, the system is being flooded. Under the Biden administration, so many employment documents were issued to immigration parolees (without congressional authorization), asylum applicants, and other temporary aliens that DHS could not keep up with renewing the authorizations. To “solve” the problem, Biden’s DHS finalized a rule in December 2024 to permanently increase the automatic extension period for expiring employment authorization from six months to 18 months. That is, DHS chose to automatically extend work authorization without ever considering whether the aliens should continue to have it. According to one chart (shown by DOGE’s Gracias at a recent Wisconsin town hall), 270,000 new aliens were issued Social Security numbers in fiscal year 2021. That number rose to 590,000 in fiscal year 2022, 964,000 in fiscal year 2023, and approximately 2.1 million in fiscal year 2024.

According to Gracias, the Social Security Administration automatically mails aliens Social Security numbers—without requiring them to prove their identity or complete an interview. Gracias says, “The defaults in the system from Social Security to all the benefit programs have been set to max inclusion, max pay for these people. And minimum collection.” During its investigations, DOGE found 1.3 million aliens who were already receiving Medicaid. It also found among the millions a subset who were registered to vote—and some who did indeed vote. All this is the result of broad administrative state abuse of alien work authorization—something Congress needs to end by reclaiming its own constitutional authority and by returning asylum (our nation’s second-most important immigration benefit, after U.S. citizenship) back to its intended role of protecting people from persecution.

Specifically, Congress should legislate the principle that immigration benefit applicants (including those receiving asylum) may not receive work authorization until the underlying benefit (e.g., asylum) is granted, not just filed. While waiting for their applications to be adjudicated, applicants should fund their stay in the U.S. via a sponsor responsible for their financial well-being. Congress should also enact anti-fraud asylum measures, which would significantly decrease the number of fraudulent asylum applications—and, by extension, would decrease the yearslong wait for DHS and DOJ to adjudicate legitimate asylum applications. DOGE can also step in and examine immigration benefit applications at DHS and DOJ to identify fraudulent applications and remove them from the 9.4 million and nearly 3.7 million respective agency backlogs. This would decrease the processing times for the remaining valid applications and restore integrity to our lawful immigration process.

Finally, DOGE should set automatic notifications across the benefits lifecycle so that when a non-citizen is denied an immigration benefit, downstream systems and parties are likewise notified to terminate their respective benefits. Under this system, if an alien’s asylum application or employment authorization application were denied or terminated, the alien’s employer, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Social Security Administration, the Internal Revenue Service, and the alien’s state(s) of residence would be notified to ensure the alien was no longer working, receiving benefits or voting—and, ultimately, that he was removed from the country. By acting now, DOGE and Congress can decrease the deportable alien population, ensure U.S. taxpayer benefits go to Americans first, and incentivize better compliance with our generous immigration laws.

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“Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick on “Face the Nation” Sunday: “We don’t make medicine in this country anymore. We don’t make ships,” he said. “We don’t have enough steel and aluminum to fight a battle, right?”

To Team Trump, Tariffs Are a National Security Issue (Saunders)

“Don’t be a PANICAN,” President Donald Trump cautioned on social media. Critics have questioned the universal tariffs he unleashed last week, and Americans have had to steel themselves before checking the balance of their 401(k)s. The Trump tariffs came fast and larger than expected. The markets responded. Now Republicans and Wall Street big shots find themselves defending an economic approach that was anathema to them not long ago. But the world has changed. “Their export-based economy is, I think, beginning to hit the end of its course,” Chuck DeVore of the conservative Texas Public Policy Foundation opined over the phone Monday. After years of manufacturers quitting the USA, tariffs could be good for national security. My favorite sound bite in favor of Trump’s tariffs came from Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick on “Face the Nation” Sunday.

“We don’t make medicine in this country anymore. We don’t make ships,” he said. “We don’t have enough steel and aluminum to fight a battle, right?” Lutnick’s right, and the beneficiaries have been college-educated voters like me, as the offshoring of manufacturing offered cheaper goods, but also fewer jobs for non-college graduates—who, coincidentally, voted for Trump. Trump is the rare U.S. politician who wants to do something about the working class. Wall Street is coming to the same table. JPMorganChase CEO Jamie Dimon is a hardcore capitalist. But in his annual shareholder letter, Dimon acknowledged the downside of tariffs when he wrote, “Whether or not the menu of tariffs causes a recession remains in question, but it will slow down growth.” Even still, on CNBC, Dimon remarked, “If it’s a little inflationary, but it’s good for national security, so be it. I mean, get over it.”

“You’ve got Wall Street caterwauling and wanting the government to back off,” DeVore told me. But: “The president is serious about applying what he sees as medicine to this economy.” Trump used the same term on Air Force One on Sunday when he said, “Sometimes you have to take medicine to fix something.” Confession time: I’m not a huge fan of tariffs. On the one hand, they’re a tax hike that is spooking the markets and costing some people their jobs. Last week, Stellantis laid off 900 U.S. workers as the automaker assesses the impact of Trump’s move.

On the other hand, Trump campaigned telling voters he would raise tariffs, and he won the election. The elephant in this room is China. “The Chinese believe that the United States are a great power in inevitable decline,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio argued during his confirmation hearing, “and that they are in inevitable rise.” DeVore warned, “The last thing you want to do at this point is show weakness.”

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In short: 4 (more) years of Biden admin. That’s what it would take.

What Would It Take to Destroy the United States? (Victor Davis Hanson)

Hello, this is Victor Davis Hanson for The Daily Signal. I was looking at the news this week and I thought of an experiment. What if you really wanted to destroy the United States? What if you’d had ill intention for America? What would you do? What agenda would you pursue? And then I started thinking of civilizations. What was the stuff of civilizations that made them work? And it’s basic: their borders, their finances, their unity, their fuel, their food. So, if you really wanted to, in civilizational terms, destroy the United States, the first thing I would do if I were an enemy of the United States is I would destroy the borders. In other words, I would just let anybody come across our version of the Rhine or the Danube, as they happened in fifth century. And that’s pretty much what we have done the last 40 years, but particularly, the last four years.

We talked about comprehensive immigration reform as needed to stop the influx, but President Donald Trump, before the Biden administration and after the Biden administration, had no such recourse. He just simply stopped it, temporarily. And he has now. But what was behind all that? Former President Joe Biden, apparently, thought that if he let in 12 million people, without audits or background checks—would it alter the demography? Would it give him new constituencies for big government? What was the thinking about it? But it’s caused billions of dollars in increased expenses. It’s really damaged the inner city. It’s damaged the Rio Grande Valley. It’s damaged the San Joaquin Valley. We have all of this crime spike. Was it deliberate?

If you also wanted to hurt the United States, you know what I would do if I had nefarious intent? I would keep printing money. And I would call that, in fact, “Build Back Better.” And the more inflationary it got, I would say it was going to be the “Inflationary Reduction Act.” And in that process, I would borrow maybe $7 trillion within four years, maybe $8 trillion, and add to an existing $38 trillion in national debt, $37 trillion, so that the interest per day would be $3 billion. That would really hurt the United States. You know what I’d also do? If I looked at the United States and I said, “Oh my gosh, they’ve got almost limitless supplies of natural gas, they’ve got almost more coal than any European country, they’ve got all of this oil. They once had a vibrant—they were the nuclear energy, they were the founders of nuclear power. They have all these dams of hydroelectric,” I know what I’ll do.

I will castigate all of that and say it makes either the environment too hot, global warming, or it ruins the natural landscape with dams. Or it will kill us all through radiation. Whatever particular complaint I’d have, I would stop it as much as I could. Dismantle nuclear power plants. Cut back on natural gas. Stop full drilling, fracking. Blow up dams rather than build them. And I’m talking about California, for example, where the result would be 40 cents a kilowatt. Would make it unaffordable. That way, if you did all of that, a quarter of all the people who paid their power bills would default. And that model would sweep across the United States.

The third thing that I would do—and I think it’s besides debt and borders and fuel—I would sow disunity. And I would say that the content of our character is not as important as the color of our skin. And I would go back and reinterpret all of the hard-won progress of the civil rights movement and sort of get rid of it. I would just say the color of our skin matters more than anything and so we’re going to hire on the basis of superficial appearance. We’re gonna have reparations to go back eight generations and adjudicate who might have had an ancestor that owned a slave and who didn’t. And then I would say I’m gonna predicate graduations, dorms—who gets to go into a dorm, who gets to go into a library, a safe space—oh, on the basis of race. But I’m not gonna call it racism or segregation. I’m gonna call it diversity, equity, and inclusion and mainstream it.

If I also wanted to create disunity, I would just say, from now on, after 7,000 years of civilization, there are three sexes, not two. And women’s sports must include biological males. Not that it was an important topic, but it would create enormous tension and disunity. What am I getting at? It seems to me that in the last four years, if you had an agenda that was designed to hurt the United States, in terms of an influx of 12 million foreigners that were unaudited, an unprotected border, a repression on energy, a desire to print money rather than to cut expenses and save money and go toward a balanced budget, and a way to divide the people—if you wanted to do all that, you couldn’t have done a better job than what we have seen from 2021 to 2025.

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Biden White House Secured Trump’s Phone For FBI in Jan. 6 Probe (JTN)

Senate Judiciary Chair Chuck Grassley and Senator Ron Johnson published new emails from FBI whistleblowers showing that President Joe Biden’s then-Deputy White House Counsel Jonathan Su personally assisted the FBI in securing President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence’s cell phones to assist the nascent “Arctic Frost” investigation over January 6. The new whistleblower emails also show that a future member of Special Counsel Jack Smith’s team and an anti-Trump FBI agent were closely involved in the origins of the FBI probe. Operation Arctic Frost formed the basis of former Special Counsel Jack Smith’s false elector case under which former President Donald Trump was later charged with a conspiracy to defraud the United States for his campaign’s attempts to assemble alternate slates of electors under claims that the 2020 election had been stolen.

The new emails are contained in a letter the senators sent to Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel urging cooperation with their requests for all information related to the FBI probe. “Overall, these newly disclosed emails show the extensive collaboration between and among select FBI agents from the Washington Field Office and prosecutors from the U.S. Attorney’s Office – Washington D.C. to plan, approve and execute Arctic Frost,” Grassley and Johnson wrote. “The emails also provide further support that ASAC Thibault played a central role in advancing its approval to a full field criminal investigation when other agents had concerns the supporting evidence only allowed for a preliminary investigation.”

“Lastly, the emails illustrate the Biden White House’s personal involvement in providing former President Trump and former Vice President Pence’s phones to the FBI at their request when neither of them was a subject of the investigation at that point in time,” they added. The emails turned over to the committee by whistleblowers show that the U.S. Attorney’s Office Criminal Chief John Crabb emailed Su at the White House on May 2, 2022 and copied Assistant Special Agent in Charge Timothy Thibault.

“Jonathan, Would you please coordinate with Tim Thibault (who’s copied on this email) about picking up the telephones,” Crabb wrote. “Thanks John. Tim, it is good to meet you, and please let me know what works for you in terms of timing the next couple days,” Su replied. By May 4, other committee records show, the FBI had successfully obtained both President Trump and Vice President Pence’s official phones from the Biden White House, even though then-former President Trump had not yet become a criminal subject of the Arctic Frost probe.

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“I think she’s the reason there are directions on a shampoo bottle..”

Sen. Kennedy Goes Absolutely Savage on AOC (Margolis)

Once again, Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) has proven that he’s the king of political zingers. He appeared on Sean Hannity’s show last night with several other Republican senators, where he delivered what might be the most savage takedown of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) we’ve heard yet. Kennedy has a gift for cutting through the nonsense with his signature southern wit. “What do you think of the new leadership: Jasmine, AOC, and Bernie?” Hannity asked. “I consider Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez to be the leader of the Democratic Party,” Kennedy said. “She’s entitled to her opinion. I’m entitled to mine.” And then he went for the jugular. “As I’ve said about her before, I think she’s the reason there are directions on a shampoo bottle,” he said. That’s it. Game over.

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To really drive the point home, he added, “Our plan for dealing with her is called Operation Let Her Speak.” Last month, after Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) voted to let the continuing resolution advance in the Senate, Kennedy described the backlash against the Senate Minority Leader in a similarly savage manner. “Among them right now, we’ve all seen the news, he’s about as popular as chlamydia,” he said. Kennedy nailed it when he said, “The loon wing of the Democratic Party is firmly in control,” which perfectly summed up the radical circus the Democrats have become, especially with their denial of basic biological truths. “These people are deeply weird,” he added, which might be putting it mildly. “Our Republican secret plan for dealing with the Democrats is called Operation Let Them Speak.”

Kennedy didn’t shy away from the hard truth behind the Democrats’ downward spiral, saying, “That’s good for our party, but it’s bad for America.” He’s right. Democrats have become so unhinged that while it makes the GOP look better, having such a radical political party as one of the two mainstream parties in the country isn’t a good thing. Kennedy’s ability to dismantle the Democrats is nothing short of masterful. His barbs aren’t just accurate; they’re downright hilarious. With his trademark folksy sharpness, he slices through the progressive façade and lays bare the intellectual emptiness at its core.

So yes, as he wisely says: let them speak. Let AOC keep pitching her latest plan to wreck the economy. Let Jasmine Crockett keep proving she’s wildly unqualified to hold public office. Let Bernie Sanders continue playing the role of elder statesman for a party that’s lost its grip on reality. Frankly, we couldn’t have picked better representatives for the left if we tried. Sometimes the smartest move is to step back and let the radicals do what they do best: implode.

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“The forgetting of history, their spiritual and moral values, their roots, if you like, all this has become one of the main reasons for what we are now seeing in Ukraine..”

Ukraine ‘Betrayed’ Its History – Lavrov (RT)

Ukraine has “betrayed” its own history by allowing the West to bring a Nazi regime to power in Kiev, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said. In an interview for the TASS Children project released on Wednesday, the diplomat said the West’s actions were deliberate, aimed at bringing about a “strategic defeat” of Russia. “The forgetting of history, their spiritual and moral values, their roots, if you like, all this has become one of the main reasons for what we are now seeing in Ukraine,” he said, referring to the ongoing conflict, which he described as one that pitted the authorities against their own people from the outset. Lavrov accused the West of trying to rewrite history by “instilling oblivion of Russian roots” and promoting ideas in Ukrainian society that led to what he called “social amnesia.”

“This was used by the Americans and Europeans to bring an openly Russophobic Nazi regime to power in Ukraine that declared war against its own people, seizing power through an illegal coup d’etat, calling those who disagreed with this coup terrorists, and starting a real war against them,” he said. Lavrov noted that among European countries, there are two views on confronting their own history with Nazism – some seek to “quickly erase the pages of their national shame,” while others see Nazi ideology as a “tool for maintaining their positions on the European political scene.” He pledged that Russia would continue to fight both trends. “Our ambition is to ensure that this sacred memory never leaves history, never leaves the memory of all generations, that it remains unchanged. And we are convinced of our historical, moral and human rectitude,” he concluded.

Commemorations of World War II-era nationalist figures with ties to Nazi Germany have been common in Ukraine. Ukrainians hold annual torchlight marches in honor of Stepan Bandera, a leader in the militant Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), which collaborated with Nazi Germany and was involved in the massacre of more than 100,000 Poles, Jews, Russians, and Soviet-aligned Ukrainians. Less than two months ago, the Ukrainian city of Rivne marked the 120th birthday of Ulas Samchuk, a Nazi collaborator and anti-Semitic propagandist who welcomed the mass killings of Jews during the war. Moscow has repeatedly warned of a Nazi revival in Ukraine, citing “denazification” as a central aim of its military operation against Kiev. Western officials and media, however, have largely downplayed such concerns, often dismissing the allegations as “Russian propaganda.”

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“After all… all global tragedies began with aggressive actions by Europeans: The Napoleonic Wars, World War I, and World War II..”

‘European Aggression’ Behind All Global Tragedies – Lavrov (RT)

Western European countries have once again “taken up arms” against Russia, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said, commenting on the increasingly hostile stance of many governments toward Moscow. Addressing the constant calls to prepare for a presumed Russian attack – a notion which Moscow has dismissed as baseless – Lavrov said all previous global conflicts were sparked by similar aggressive actions from Europe. “We are witnessing another wave in which Europe is taking up arms against Russia, and by the looks on some faces, even growling at Russia. After all… all global tragedies began with aggressive actions by Europeans: The Napoleonic Wars, World War I, and World War II,” he said in an interview for the TASS Children project released on Wednesday. Lavrov added that during World War II, nearly all “neutral” European countries, in addition to those officially aligned with Nazi Germany, fought alongside Germany – including France.

“They did have a resistance movement, but like most other European countries, the official authorities in Paris meekly surrendered to the will of the victors… and French troops fought battles on the side of Hitler’s Germany, taking part in a number of punitive operations,” he said, adding that “there were many examples of this.” Lavrov went on to say that France and the UK are “obsessed” with “defeating Russia on the battlefield,” as evidenced by the billions they have spent on Kiev’s war effort and recent discussions about deploying troops to Ukraine, supposedly in a peacekeeping role. He accused the West, including Washington, of installing what he called an “openly Russophobic Nazi regime” in Ukraine as part of its goal of defeating Russia. “Some want to quickly and finally erase from history the pages of their national shame, collaborationism, connivance with the Nazis,” he said.

“While others see in Nazi ideology some new instrument for maintaining their positions on the European political scene.” Lavrov added that Russia has long tried to warn the West against rewriting history. “Consigning history to oblivion, one’s spiritual and moral values, one’s roots, if you will, all this has become one of the main reasons for what we are now seeing in Ukraine,” he said, in reference to the authorities in Kiev who honor World War II Nazi collaborators as national heroes and “undermine and denigrate” the role of the Soviet Union in defeating Nazi Germany. “We will fight against this,” Lavrov said, expressing hope that “not everyone has forgotten the lessons of history.” “Many leaders… are beginning to understand the dead end and catastrophic consequences,” he said, referring to attempts to defeat Russia.

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All of southern Europe. Who will stop them? The EU?

Kiev Targeting Russian Gas Supplies To Southern Europe – Moscow (RT)

The Ukrainian military has launched multiple drone attacks overnight, targeting a a Russian gas pumping station which supplies fuel to southern Europe via the TurkStream pipeline, the Defense Ministry in Moscow has said. The ministry has accused Kiev of continued violations of an energy ceasefire agreed by Russia, the US and Ukraine last month. On Wednesday, the Russian military announced that it intercepted eight Ukrainian drones targeting the energy facility near the town of Korenovsk in the southern Krasnodar Region. The attack on Tuesday night was detected by defenses and caused no damage, as all aircraft were successfully intercepted, the report stated.

“This was a deliberate attack by the Kiev regime against an international energy site,” the ministry emphasized, adding that since Russia accepted a US-proposed moratorium on strikes targeting energy infrastructure, Ukrainian forces have not paused such attacks “for a single day.” Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an immediate suspension of strikes on Ukrainian energy sites following a phone conversation with US President Donald Trump in mid-March. Moscow maintains it is observing the partial ceasefire, despite Ukrainian violations, in a bid to foster goodwill with Washington.

The Korenovskaya compressor station targeted by Kiev is part of the Pochinki-Anapa pipeline, which entered service in July 2022 to enhance supplies for the TurkStream link under the Black Sea. The ground section of the pipeline has a maximum capacity of 63 billion cubic meters of gas per year, though the Defense Ministry noted it is currently functioning at about half that flow rate. TurkStream is one of the primary export routes for Russian natural gas directly to Türkiye, facilitating further supplies to Hungary, Serbia, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Greece. In late February Hungary accused Kiev of threatening its sovereignty by jeopardizing its energy supplies, after a Ukrainian drone raid targeted the Russkaya gas compressor station, which feeds fuel into TurkStream.

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“Moscow will employ all tools at its disposal against what it perceives as an existential threat. Ukraine and its Western supporters have dismissed the Russian leader’s statements as “nuclear blackmail.”

US ‘Just Lost A War With Russia’ – Tucker Carlson (RT)

American policymakers are too arrogant to acknowledge that they have “lost a war with Russia” over Ukraine, US journalist Tucker Carlson has said. Russian officials perceive the Ukraine conflict as a NATO proxy war – a notion that some Western politicians, including US Secretary of State Marco Rubio and former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, have openly agreed with. In an interview with Alex Jones published on Wednesday, Carlson accused those perpetuating the hostilities of ignoring that Russia has emerged victorious. ”We just lost a war with Russia,” the former Fox News host declared. “The US was running that war – the US military, the Pentagon, State Department, CIA – running the war against Russia. It was not… was never about Ukraine.”

Carlson expressed concern that “nobody will say that out loud – that we’re overstating our power.” He likened the US to a divorced 60-year-old man attempting to woo a 25-year-old woman, oblivious to how absurd and humiliating he appears. “That’s called hubris and that’s how empires get destroyed and populations vaporized,” Carlson warned. “Maybe we should readjust our expectations a little bit.” Jones argued that many advocating for unconditional support of Kiev are “militarily ignorant,” mentioning actor Sean Penn’s dismissal of nuclear escalation risks with Russia. He emphasized that the scenario of major nuclear conflict is termed ‘Mutually Assured Destruction’ for a reason.

In response, Carlson referenced a Pentagon assessment indicating that at one point the risk of the Ukraine conflict escalating to nuclear war reached 50%, arguing that any policymaker comfortable with such odds belongs “in prison for the criminally insane.” Senior Russian officials, including President Vladimir Putin, have publicly asserted that Moscow will employ all tools at its disposal against what it perceives as an existential threat. Ukraine and its Western supporters have dismissed the Russian leader’s statements as “nuclear blackmail.”

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    Salvador Dali Bacchanale 1939   • Trump Hikes China Tariff To 125% (RT) • Trump “Pauses” Reciprocal Tariffs For 90 Days On Every Nation -Except C
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    Good morning :-))

    ‘My long Covid turned out to be terminal cancer

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cde2ln71dwyo

    TVASSF

    Bonus story ….

    Chai-yan, elder daughter of ex-Hong Kong leader CY Leung, dies at 33

    “… very suddenly.”

    https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society/article/3305750/chai-yan-elder-daughter-ex-hong-kong-leader-cy-leung-dies-33

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    “Since then, prices have tumbled around 16%, as concerns grow that a global trade war could damage growth and reduce fuel consumption.”

    Shouldn’t the net zero people be rejoicing about this? Isn’t cutting out the carbon their main goal?
    Or do they think that can happen without any effect on their retirement portfolios? Net zero, what a joke. According to their own “science” the last time the human race was net zero was pre agriculture. You know: hunter gathers.

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    “Both President Trump and White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt have stated that the Department Of Government Efficiency has made a massive discovery, with Trump calling it “horrible.”

    My timing is good this week. You mean MORE than 7 infinity-money printers run by unwatched, unaccountable unnamed warmongers? Worse?

    There is a real “worse” though: Bonds going UP. They DID talk about this, in the future, and yes, but now? Already? Uh-oh. I’m not even sure a harder drop will finally get it going because of the timing. It’s just going UP as the markets go DOWN. …It is still only 4% though. That’s not the end, but 3% would be 25% off $36T

    Krainer finally figures out what’s going on in Yemen:

    TL;DR and this is both tenuous and complicated, So we all know Yemen is doing this. We all know pissing them off is WORSE. We know that what we’re doing will only annoy them: like we CAN get an army and actually hit them but it takes time and money. We haven’t got a chance, and everyone’s shaking their heads, both at the act, and the explanation, WHILE there’s a war crime.

    …But did you know that Yemen was NOT attacking Europe? They were ONLY attacking Israel. So there were ships getting through, non-Israeli, to Europe. Fine. AND THEN DUM DUM GOES AND SHOOTS AT THEM SO THEY SHUT IT OFF. And us, btw, they’re out sinking our ships too.

    Not only that: it’s so dumb that we had a full war game just a few years ago, saying exactly this! Wow, such.

    So okay, when Cheeto shoots at Yemen who did he hit? Uhhhh…Europe. Europe says Yemen is after them, and Trump says he was doing it on Europe’s behalf, but that’s not true is it? There’s only ONE actor hurt by this, though it costs a few bucks: EUROPE. Now all freight is going around Africa, hitting them.

    What was in the Vance leak? EUROPE. He said “Why are we helping EUROPE?”
    Now if you’re not a moron, suppose you’re the Houthis: You see this going on. Maybe your enemy really is Israel alone. What are you doing? Killing EUROPE. Why? Because they are the reason Israel can exist. Broke, collapsed Europe = broke, collapsed Israel. And you only need to shoot a few missiles.

    Speaking of, we’re going to go attack Iran! BombBombBomb! Uhhh…not if we can’t defend our own Navy we’re not. What? Yes, if ALL our anti-air missiles in the theatre are used up shooting at waterballoons, we can’t attack Iran, can we? Boy Israel is going to be super-disappointed when we explain that to them, but too bad/ so sad: it’s TRUE. Those missiles don’t grow on trees, whaddya want from us, steam the Navy to San Diego and have nothing at all? Boy we totally WANTED, we intended, we planned the whole thing out, but shucks, Nutsy, it just didn’t come off this time. Because we were defending YOUR trade routes! YOU told us to! Don’t blame me!

    So that’s why we can (barely) hit Yemen. We’re not TRYING to hit Yemen …obviously. And in the world war, SOMEBODY is going to get shot – grow up – and here it’s like less than ten Yemenis killed to take out Europe of 500M people. …Or should be put on red coats and do a bayonet charge on Calais? Yemen may understand this – they certainly don’t seem upset. They seem sporting to the game, like Slap-Contests. It’s fun! Their people dgaf, they’re happy to stick it up ours for pure joy like any Redneck, god bless them.

    So does this all start to make sense again?

    The outcome IS the plan. If there is an outcome—and nobody’s mad, nothing changed – then that was the outcome they WANTED, obviously. They’re not stupid. I don’t know what the NAVY thinks of this, but if you get orders to just harass them but don’t mess them up much, that’s what you do. That’s POLITICS, not war, and that’s your job.

    Treasury Secretary Bessent just revealed that President Trump laid a trap and China fell into it.”

    Maybe. What I’m seeing all over is everyone is just knee-jerk, about everything. With the dumbest assumptions. Like, “Trump selfish whaaaah, bad”, “Trump Zion Axis puppet-powers” or whatever your personal hobby-horse is. IS IT? Stop beginning with your assumptions, you learn nothing that way. Krainer says that almost as his opening remarks: WHAT IF this is NOT chaos – like chaos we’ve been writing about doing for well-understood reasons for forty years – but if there is a REASON? Then you sift what’s actually happening and see if it makes sense.

    Sure, Trump MIGHT have goaded China into a bad position, but really, I think this is just State-of-Play. China is very wise and avoided a hundred of these. Remember when Congress eventually ORDERED China to break the peg and re-value (raise) their currency? Yeah, they did that bc they couldn’t trick them into it, and bc that would ruin them. There have been 100 since then. But reality is: China has demographic problems. Although played well, there are still a few years left that they’re locked into being an exporter and not doing that will hurt them bad. At the same time, their ruthless protectionism and non-stop theft was ALWAYS meant to hollow out and murder the U.S. Why not? Who wouldn’t? As Trump said, that’s not their fault, our traitors here sold it to them. That’s why H.W. went over there. …Or we collapse and we all die. So too bad.

    So while China is still stuck in this window, the U.S. escaped a little early, before we were completely dead. Mostly. Dead. So we can leverage this. We may not “Win”. We may not even be trying to hurt China. That’s all irrelevant. We’re trying to save US.

    Alexander, Duran, etc is an example, went on at great length about the tariffs, punitive actions, etc. He’s missing the point. IT’S NOT PUNITIVE. IT’S NOT MEANT TO MAKE MONEY. That is, What is the real GOAL? You get to have ONE parameter with ONE goal, or they interfere. Our One Goal is WE WILL ALL DIE IF WE DON’T STOP THE BLEEDING. Budget, currency, etc all collapse, US$ may even stop, so worldwide trade seizes, world war inevitably starts, nuclear exchange, the end.

    Alexander, even being three steps ahead of “Trump Dum” crowd, still misses this. We’re not trying to WIN anything – couldn’t care less. We have to STOP BLEEDING hundred billion, a trillion in trade deficits. And to Canada, China, IDGAF, to anyone. So if China STOPS trade with retaliatory tariffs, don’t care! Great! Solves the same problem, different way. Do whatever you need to do boys. We do what WE need to do.

    So we’re at state-of-game-play, and sure Trump may WANT something, may EXPECT some move, may even be prompting China to take the right pawn, but ultimately doesn’t matter. That’s for amateurs. If you’re Kasperov, you actually don’t care WHICH pawn they take as you’ll respond to any of them just fine.

    This is what midwit reporters can’t grasp, having never worked or negotiated a thing in their lives. This is also the weakness of Evil Minions in Europe who have to use “The PLAN” and if the Plan doesn’t actually happen (J6), they just carry on and pretend that move happened, ackshully, the pawn I told you to take you picked achkshully, as reality and “The Plan” diverge mile by mile, year after year, like “More sanctions” “Russia’s going to break up from within.”

    Americans aren’t like that. We have a lot of problems, but simply, directly telling you you’re a moron and all your plans suck isn’t one of them. We will do whatever is PRACTICAL. …Once we wrest ourselves out of intellectual midwits, experts, Europeans, and Atlanticists, of which there are so many.

    Oh, Elon did the “69” Minutes? Ha!

    ““I have worked closely with Elon for over 20 years. His heart is pure, and his sole mission is to help humanity.”

    That’s my take. …And that’s why he’s terrifying. People who think they know better and “help” are the worst of all life forms. ….Aaaaaaaand am I wrong in that? To “Help” he funds and defended cars that drive around American cities looking for emergency responder equipment to run into, burning all ecologists alive.

    “This administration aims to give all banks the chance to succeed and get capital to Americans who need it most.”

    This will happen or the plan will fail. Same with subsidies, although I’m against them. I have to tolerate them, put a date on them or something, because we’re not in a pure system now, what’s the difference? We’re MOVING in the right direction.

    “Victor Davis Hanson: Elon Musk is a Renaissance man, a Da Vinci of our age—and Democrats hate that.”

    You’re overselling this: he’s a programmer who handles money and is a competent manager. But yes, the Left hates success, because HATE. Their most hated objects are successful black, asian, minorities. They’re not obeying “The Narrative” they made up in their minds. …Roughly, they disprove Socialism, their religion. So if anything gets better, they hate it on sight. Because the “Good Thing™” can’t be good unless it was “Good” in a Socialist way.

    You would think this is a joke and I’m kidding but I’m not. I can’t think of a religious parallel to it, but remember the 70s or 80s maharishis’ who had a vow of poverty so bought a Rolls just to piss people off, make them THINK about money? And let the whole commune drive it to get groceries? Like that. THAT reaction is what we’re talking about. “Oh my pearls, how DARE they give a Rolls Royce to the whole community as a lark?” Offensive. “It is not done” by “The Good People.” It’s a CAR. Money EXISTS. What you’re fighting is shadows in your mind.

    ““I’m proud to be the President for the workers, not the outsourcers; the President who stands up for Main Street, not Wall Street; who protects the middle class, not the political class; and who defends America, not trade cheaters all over the globe.”

    Note WALL STREET IS BEHIND HIM. They are behind this “Main Street” plan, which is driving the Left – and now apparently everyone? — insane. It’s not insane, it’s OBVIOUS. First, They planned out their “Black Monday” got it all arranged in the media, “The Narrative”. Boom, hit it. Wall Street stopped them cold and laughed. Not today, Satan! Then OBVIOUSLY, if Main Street dies, America dies, so Wall Street dies. They are aligned on this now. So to make loans, they need to make them to MAIN STREET. So they need Main to be strong enough to give them business and profits and everybody wins.

    That’s called “Capitalism”, and where the “Profit” they hate so much is just another word for “Prosperity”. Where the workers are EMPLOYED in meaningful labor with meaningful lives. Making meaningful PROFITS of their own, called “wages” where they then do the Evilly-evil of “Consuming”. That is, buying cool stuff they want and need, and “not dying” n’ stuff.

    Again, IF TRUMP CAN STAND UP AND SAY THIS, then Wall st and most oligarchs, middle business owners are with him. There are just a few Globalists, Euro-moles still left fighting.

    “• Trump “Pauses” Reciprocal Tariffs For 90 Days On Every Nation -Except China (ZH)

    Well, yes. Like everything, the Left is making this sound insane. WE ARE NOW NEGOTIATING with those +70 nations. What would be stupid, cruel, and insane, is to not pause the tariffs while negotiating. So that’s what they want instead? They don’t know whether to s—t or go blind as we say here. –What a weird American aphorism.

    Again, look, this is NORMAL. If we had just ONE nation out of line, we said, Laos, we’re doing this, Laos said “Okay we’re flying over to talk on Friday” it would be OBVIOUS that the polite and diplomatic thing to do is stop until you talk. But when we add more than one Laos, logic reverses somehow?

    “People don’t like change. They’ll only admit change is needed when it’s too late.”

    Yeah, we know. That’s why we were deficit for decades – no problem! Hollowed out every industry, ended every job – no problem! Killed every worker, lost every election – no problem! Nation racking up a Trillion a month, reaching hyperinflation – no problem! But you make ONE move to fix it, what we all knew a whole lifetime was wrong and “Everybody loses their minds!”

    The problem with being a politician is exactly this, and everybody knows it. “We want you to fix everything.” Okay! “But not by changing anything.” Errrr, I have the feeling I’m in the wrong job, then. That’s why they can only work in CRISIS, and at this point, with childish, immature voters, now MAKE a collapse. Like 1994 health care/ACA, they NEED a collapse, CAUSE a collapse, by thoroughly ruining the system. Only then will the people cryout for worldwide gay race communism, I mean Nationalized Health Care.

    Here, for a change — and it’s ALWAYS the Republicans — we’re trying to, in fact need to, fix something BEFORE it collapses, which was only in six months before the collapse timer went off and the nuclear device detonated. Why them? Because if you tell them to eat their vegetables and clean their room, you’re the bad guy. Only Republicans can tolerate that.

    But try to convince anyone of that. So he’s the bad guy. DGAF. It’s his last term anyway.

    ““I do business in China. They don’t play by the rules,” he added. “They’ve been in the WTO for decades, they have never abided by any of the rules they agreed to when they came in.”

    This is completely true, of course. But 1) Just like we did when we were a young nation, and 2) WE (but meaning Globalists) did this TO them. We asked them, encouraged them, demanded them to do this, to lower prices, destroy the United States, liquidate it, and hand it to International Billionaires. Some of which WERE American, but some not.

    Example: Sam Walton. He was “Made in America”, and his body wasn’t cold before Glass and the board sold out all America for Chinesium. How’s that working for you now, boys? No wages in the U.S., and today, nothing to sell? Maybe Sam was right and that’s why popular and built a company you can barely inherit?

    “• China Vows to “Fight to the End” in Economic War with America (CTH)

    They do have a problem that they need an off ramp “To save face” in China. They probably have one, but that’s not this part of negotiation. First you meet.

    “In short: 4 (more) years of Biden admin. That’s what it would take.
    • What Would It Take to Destroy the United States? (Victor Davis Hanson)

    Well, yes, but we’d still fight them. Until the Constitution and all Enlightenment values are forgotten. Maybe a collapse would have been better, who knows? It’s what so many expected or were planning for. I think not if it can be helped.

    ““After all… all global tragedies began with aggressive actions by Europeans: The Napoleonic Wars, World War I, and World War II..”

    Example, I think it’s in Krainer, that “Europe still can’t accept that they’ve lost to Russia.” Which is true, I think. But what’s unbelievable in that, un-real, is that EUROPE ALWAYS LOSES TO RUSSIA. Russia, always, always, always, always wins. …And they still can’t believe it, like it’s the first time. What. The Actual. F—? YOU HAVE NEVER WON, boys. You were never CLOSE to winning, and certainly not this time. Are you Drain Bramaged or something? WTF is your Major Malfunction?

    You lost because you always lose. Nothing else has ever happened. It’s the whitest swan in all human history.

    …And they were going to make US fight it. Uhhhh, no.

    • Kiev Targeting Russian Gas Supplies To Southern Europe – Moscow (RT)

    Boy that’ll help! Makin’ friends, amirite? Or “Nazis gonna Nazi!” Knock knock. Who’s there? Orange. Orange Who? Orange you glad you armed the Nazis? Gave them half a TRILLION dollars so they could blow up your pipelines? Brilliant!
    Beer

    “American policymakers are too arrogant to acknowledge that they have “lost a war with Russia” over Ukraine, US journalist Tucker Carlson has said.”

    Wellllll…. Yes as with Taibbi commenting on the NY Times article admitting all that. But it’s EXPERTS, “Policymakers”, NeoCons, and retards. …But I repeat myself. Americans are happy to not be in a war, and to admit whatever is happening IN the war. Like “They didn’t greet us with flowers.”

    Tax credit:
    Jail

    #185891
    Just Some Randomer
    Participant

    Looking at the dollar continuing to slump today, especially against the Euro. Tariffs aside, this simply has to feed into price inflation for American purchasers eventually. Stocks feel a lot less crashy this session so far, but I think the ongoing drop in the dollar is indicative of serious trouble still bubbling away behind the scenes, deep in the plumbing of the Treasury (and related derivatives) market. How bad do things have to be in the US for big money to be fleeing for the safety (Hahahaha!) of the EUR – a currency backed up at this point by nothing more than wishful thinking and inertia?

    I don’t think the worst is over yet by a long shot, in terms of market turmoil. Enjoy the period of calm.

    #185892
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “They are Humans” indeed. It’s extremely hard to turn the dial regardless of what -ism you use. Nevertheless we have found some at least LIMIT bad behavior, even as that behavior cannot be fulled stopped. At this point in history, we know what most of them are: review, limit, balance of powers, free debate, free choice, etc. But again, that only LIMITS the problem – of “Sinful man” as we used to say, it cannot stop it so long as there is any “sin” in our hearts, within. And this is why Conservatives don’t aspire to, don’t want to live in a Perfect world, just a pretty okay one.

    “the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either – but right through every human heart” — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    But the full quote may be better:

    “In the intoxication of youthful successes I had felt myself to be infallible, and I was therefore cruel. In the surfeit of power I was a murderer and an oppressor. In my most evil moments I was convinced that I was doing good, and I was well supplied with systematic arguments. And it was only when I lay there rotting on prison straw that I sensed within myself the first stirrings of good. Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either – but right through every human heart – and through all human hearts. This line shifts.

    Inside us it oscillates with the years. And even within the hearts overwhelmed with evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained. And even in the best of all hearts, there remains…an un-uprooted small corner of evil.” — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    JB new job must suck – and no doubt – he’s cranky lately. Not having space for long reflective thoughts.

    #185893
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Youse

    You can just do things…

    Speaking of, JB’s hobby horse, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=74zhwVq-A1s it’s wandering as the subject is unclear, but can also move to 13min mark.

    “When men do things, they do them for the thing itself, and not for the social status that thing provides. In many cases, even when there is no apparent social status to be GAINED by the action.
    But the Girl Boss, is attempting to attain the SOCIAL STATUS, not the thing. The social status someone ELSE established, not for the sake of the Thing or doing it Well, but for the Status it provides.”
    Therefore the fundamental motivation of the Girl Boss is Selfishness…”

    It doesn’t matter if the person doing the job is good at it, or if someone else has a better claim…

    When I heard this, it solved a mystery, of Why ruin MY thing? Make your own movies. Make your own Comics. Make your own characters, IDGAF, no one’s stopping you. Why do you have to come over here and steal MYYYYYYYYY Terminator, put a chick in it and call ‘r gay? Why you have have to ruin MY Thor? Why do you have to ruin MY James Bond?

    I’m serious, wtf don’t you just make your own characters which will make more sense and be far better, instead of gender swapping the most RIDICULOUS things on the planet? You have all the money in the G D UNIVERSE right now for your trash apparently, you can make ANYTHING you want. ANYTHING!!!

    …But no, they want MINE. Why?

    Because they DGAF about the THING. They don’t care about characters, movies, life, nothing. ONLY ABOUT STATUS. Does Terminator have gravitas, social status? Okay, I want that thing now. I want an Oompa Loompa NOWWWWWWW, and you can’t tell me no!!!

    “Okay sweetums, we’ll get you one. How much?”

    Wonka: “They’re not for sale.”

    Quality, competence, relevance, they’re not for sale. They can only be EARNED. …Which they cannot understand.

    #185894
    zerosum
    Participant

    “Supply and Demand”

    A simple explanation of “Tariffs War”, “Trade War”, “Complexity”, “Lies and Secrets”, Hate and Fear”, “War and Peace”, “Winners and Losers”, “Competitions”.
    ———


    Trump cited calls made by “more than 75 countries” to the Departments of Commerce, Treasury, and the Office of the United States Trade Representative.
    According to the president, these nations expressed willingness to discuss trade barriers, tariffs, currency manipulation, and non-monetary tariffs.
    Trump also pointed out that, unlike China, “these Countries have not, at my strong suggestion, retaliated in any way, shape, or form against the United States.”
    ——–


    • Trump Tariff Shock Sends Oil To Four-Year Low (RT)

    Russia’s central bank warned that the collapse in oil prices and the expanding trade conflict could harm its economy.
    “If the escalation of the tariff wars continues, this usually leads to a decline in global trade and the global economy, and possibly, demand for our energy resources,” central bank head Elvira Nabiullina said on Tuesday.
    Russia’s Urals crude also dropped sharply, briefly nearing the $50-per-barrel mark for the first time in almost two years, before recovering to around $67.

    ———
    Rep. August Pfluger (R-Texas) told reporters that the president is “making good on a campaign promise to shake things up, to reorder the world system whether it’s trade or whether it’s alliances or military organizations.”
    Rep. Rich McCormick (R-Ga.) told reporters that the tariffs finally put China on notice.
    “If China needs our market more than we need their market, because they already put unfair tariffs and regulations and restrictions on us, they’re going to suffer way more from this than we are in a trade war,” he said. “If the rest of the world’s going to come to the table, why shouldn’t China too?” he added.

    ———-
    Trump’s announcement triggered a historic rally on US stock markets.
    The S&P 500 closed up 9.5 percent – its biggest gain since 2008.
    The Dow Jones rose 7.9 percent, marking its best day since 2020,
    while the Nasdaq soared 12 percent, its largest single-day increase in 24 years.
    While Wednesday’s surge added over $5 trillion in market value, US markets have yet to fully recover losses sustained since the president launched the tariff war last week.
    Still, Trump insisted his “reciprocal” trade actions marked a turning point.

    ———–
    • China Vows to “Fight to the End” in Economic War with America (CTH)

    Full dragon, no panda mask.
    Beijing begins using war terminology to discuss the trade conflict with the United States. Through a series of cumulative trade tariffs, President Trump has now placed Chinese imports into the USA in a position of 104% tariffs.
    104%! In response Beijing has devalued their currency and dumped treasuries, but no amount of subsidy, devaluation or use of their sovereign wealth fund is going to compensate for 104% taxes on Chinese products.
    Very soon all purchase orders from the USA for Chinese manufactured products will stop. The Beijing dragon is looking at the future through a zero-sum position.
    Now, they vow to fight to the death.

    ———
    • To Team Trump, Tariffs Are a National Security Issue (Saunders)

    “Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick on “Face the Nation” Sunday:
    “We don’t make medicine in this country anymore.
    We don’t make ships,” he said.
    “We don’t have enough steel and aluminum to fight a battle, right?”

    ————–
    • US ‘Just Lost A War With Russia’ – Tucker Carlson (RT)

    American policymakers are too arrogant to acknowledge that they have “lost a war with Russia” over Ukraine, US journalist Tucker Carlson has said.
    Russian officials perceive the Ukraine conflict as a NATO proxy war – a notion that some Western politicians, including US Secretary of State Marco Rubio and former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, have openly agreed with.
    In an interview with Alex Jones published on Wednesday, Carlson accused those perpetuating the hostilities of ignoring that Russia has emerged victorious.
    ”We just lost a war with Russia,” the former Fox News host declared.
    “The US was running that war – the US military, the Pentagon, State Department, CIA – running the war against Russia.
    It was not… was never about Ukraine.”

    ———–

    #185895
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-concurrent-resolution/14/text
    H.Con.Res.14 – Establishing the congressional budget for the United States Government for fiscal year 2025 and setting forth the appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2026 through 2034.
    119th Congress (2025-2026) |

    LOTS TO READ …
    ———-

    #185896
    zerosum
    Participant

    Is it a falling knife or a falling sledgehammer?

    #185897
    zerosum
    Participant

    (A small cut and paste from https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-concurrent-resolution/14/text .)
    Is the US digging out of its # 1 Problem?

    (5) PUBLIC DEBT.—Pursuant to section 301(a)(5) of the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 (2 U.S.C. 632(a)(5)), the appropriate levels of the public debt are as follows:

    Fiscal year 2025: $36,525,094,000,000.
    Fiscal year 2026: $37,838,733,000,000.
    Fiscal year 2027: $39,140,384,000,000.
    Fiscal year 2028: $40,566,455,000,000.
    Fiscal year 2029: $42,102,586,000,000.
    Fiscal year 2030: $43,583,333,000,000.
    Fiscal year 2031: $45,068,345,000,000.
    Fiscal year 2032: $46,595,036,000,000.
    Fiscal year 2033: $48,382,716,000,000.
    Fiscal year 2034: $50,481,979,000,000.

    #185898
    jb-hb
    Participant

    The job certainly is taking up a lot more than 40 hours a week.

    I’m trying to do something in particular. There’s a bloc of people trapped in a mental cul-de-sac and, as many examples show, they will not mentally engage.

    And this is a question that has been pondered for years now – how do you help someone who is possessed by an evil ideology/religion? Actually, forget something that big, how do you get them to have a discussion?

    If all ports are closed except the visceral, then the only way to send requests to open up ports is to hit those ports. Thus the inclusion of de-pantsing the inherent immorality, ridiculousness, shame, embarrassment, inherent. Does ANY ping get a real response? If it does, then can a request be sent to open up a higher-level port? Does ANYTHING shock or shame or embarrass enough to engage mental gears?

    Explaining cause and effect regarding Israel/Yemen/Gaza at least had an effect yesterday. Leftists (Leftists are Socialists…) did the following:

    –adopted the most reprehensible modifications to a reprehensible belief system in response to failure
    –did as pledged, captured the institutions
    –used this to run around ruining everything they touched
    –“Educated” the rest of us on their whackadoodle esoteric thoughts (the average Comic Boo Reader, Star Wars fan, and Video Gamer has a pretty good grasp on it now!)
    –right on schedule, the moment they captured the institutions, committed genocide again
    –scared the absolute shit out of everyone else
    –by their actions and their insanity, made an alliance with Israel totally, completely worth it: Win the election, enough power to fix things domestically in exchange for support for Israel.

    So, so many other options, choices. But since the 90’s it has been this, one long crescendo, single-note

    Sorry, but all the things Socialists did LED to this. You made yourself enemy number 1, threat number 1, all while being worse than useless when you COULD have re-thought things back when the Berlin Wall fell and come up with something COOL.

    You don’t like outcomes? Well, LOOK at yourselves, Socialists.

    That got QUITE a reaction yesterday. Consequences are oppression. Personal responsibility is oppression. Had to work really, REALLY hard re-writing, re-framing. So at least there’s a nerve there that can be touched.

    How could Socialists imagine there could NOT be unintended consequences from their rather massive actions? How could they possibly think their actions could be sacrosanct, free from analysis? And yet this seems to be the case. Cannot or will not see the most obvious billiard-ball connections leading to today.

    Getting gaslit for years “nothing is happening and you don’t have the mental capacity to recognize if something was happening” only to see the Globalists rip off masks and fully adopd DEI (globalist=internationalist), which everyone knows is gay-race communism, to find that hundreds of billions, perhaps trillions, were being spent on gay-race communism propaganda… no simple “oh I was 100% wrong about that” no “sorry for gaslighting you” just… on to the next gaslighting.

    I am waiting to see a socialist have a fucking heart. And in the meantime, running tests, learning.

    The current technique has probably run its course. I’m willing to admit there’s nobody home on that port.

    #185899
    Just Some Randomer
    Participant

    @Zerosum – Call me skeptical, but I think we’ll see that $50trn debt waaaay sooner than 2034. So it’s currently increasing at ~ $3trn/year and I don’t think anything is going to lower that rate of increase, I think it’s safe, on that basis, to project a $50trn official debt figure by sometime in 2029 at the very latest. These numbers are fantasy-land stuff.

    #185900
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/johnson-says-house-gop-have-votes-pass-budget-resolution

    Johnson Says House GOP “Have The Votes” To Pass Budget Resolution Today
    Negotiations had continued into Wednesday night, as Johnson and the White House struggled to convince GOP holdouts who wanted deeper spending cuts. The lower chamber was set to vote Wednesday evening on the budget resolution but punted after several House conservatives resisted increasing pressure from Mr. Trump to accept the blueprint that would open the door to implementing his border security, defense, energy priorities and extending expiring tax cuts. ​

    “I’m happy to tell you that this morning, I believe we have the votes to finally adopt the budget resolution so we can move forward on President Trump’s very important agenda for the American people,” Johnson told reporters Thursday morning on Capitol Hill. ​

    #185901
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Oh, forgot it in my recap:

    Cynically and instantly meatsuiting the Gaza movement to “capture the political energy” was evil in and of itself.

    Additionally, it drove America Firsters and Israel together as allies.

    The loud protest to this easily observable fact yesterday reminded me of Hillary while she was at the state department whining about Russia and China getting closer. That was YOU.

    #185902
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Watching Team USA vs Team China is like watching a couple of hormone soaked hot-rod-driving teenagers in a game of chicken. Don’t expect a good outcome, just call the First Responders (and don’t forget the Coroner’s Office.)

    #185903
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “I have worked closely with Elon for over 20 years. His heart is pure, and his sole mission is to help humanity. ”

    <barf> are you effing serious?!?!?!?!? <more barf>

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/elon-musks-us-department-defense-contracts-2025-02-11/

    #185904
    those darned kids
    Participant

    what?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    “Elon Musk is a Renaissance man, a Da Vinci of our age”

    da vinci, as far as i know, didn’t murder babies.

    #185905
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Here’s one more way of explaining what I have been doing. There was a point at which I stopped saying Wokeist or Communist or other euphemisms and started saying “Socialist.” Why?

    I rented a unit in a condo complex for awhile. It had buildings with 8 units each and a good amount of green space between them.

    We were plagued, for half a year, with dog turds. Dog turds everywhere. The SMELL of dog turds everywhere in the summer.

    Letters from the condo association begging, pleading to just pick up your own turds. Polite letters from our groundskeeper in obvious places begging for the same. Finally, the groundskeeper didn’t pick up the turds, but instead circled each deposit with white paint. All green spaces looked like a dalmatian. No change. PLEASE, dog turd person, have a heart.

    Finally, a fellow resident watched who was doing it, let her continue to make “deposits.” One night, he picked them all up and piled them up on her front step. It was a PILE.

    Her schedule was predictable. He hung out on his front steps drinking coffee that morning. The woman came bustling out the door on her way to work, stepped perfectly into the center of that pile of her own dogshit. “Shit!” Looked up, made direct eye contact with him. He smiled at her and took another sip of coffee.

    The dogshit problem went away after that day.

    “Socialist” is just a motte-and-bailey. Retreat to “socialist” when individual socialist policies, beliefs, etc are pressed hard, since every big-brain NPR listening NYT reading person knows the Europeans are more sophisticated than US rednecks. Look at the Canadian health care system (oops) Look at how Sweden is going (oops)

    Rather than disavowing, rather than splitting off as sort of a Socialist Protestant Reformation, people who like and admire Socialism agree, support wherever it is safe to do so, and otherwise lie flat, limp, passive. These agitated wokeist DEI folks may seem a bit weird, a bit radical, but they seem to have the “energy” needed to pick me up and carry my limp, passive body into the Socialist Endzone of Victory.

    Somehow, in their own heads, they are running a motte-and-bailey, hiding in the “socialism” tower from any disturbing, compartmentalized information. So their own dogshit must be piled up on their doorstep, so they can step into the shit while yelling “shit” to hopefully have that semiotics epiphany that reality is real and symbols DON’T just relate to other symbols.

    #185906
    those darned kids
    Participant

    oh, my, cancer is the new autism.

    #185907
    John Day
    Participant

    Not Genghis Khan, Your Excellency:

    “‘European Aggression’ Behind All Global Tragedies – Lavrov (RT)”

    #185908
    EoinW
    Participant

    I’ve enjoyed reading Dr.D’s posts and I am sorry to see him damaging his credibility on the tariff issue. My advice would be for him to stick to covering events with his welcome sense of humour and steer clear of the tariffs.

    Threatening to destroying another’s economy is negotiating? I don’t think so. Trump is no deal maker. He’s a bully who always gets his way then pretends he negotiated a deal.

    What I really don’t understand is how Americans confuse a giant Victim Complex for 4D chess…unless all Americans share the same Victim Complex. “Those dirty foreigners are always out to rip us off! They hate us because we’re the greatest country ever!”

    Sorry to introduce reality but America makes nothing but consumes more than anyone else. That’s not sustainable. Yes Trump can bully numerous Vichy governments into selling their country out to benefit America, however that doesn’t change the problem which is that the USA has lost to China, even though it was a game with American rules. Kicking over the table because you lost doesn’t make you less of a loser.

    Yesterday we saw Trump cave in because he feared panic was setting in. It wasn’t negotiating. Give Trump credit, he is good at pretending defeat is a victory. He understands Americans love winners and hate losers.

    He isn’t out of the woods by a long shot. Why? Trump said it himself: he’ll decide what to do in the future based on instinct. That’s not negotiating. That’s not 4D chess. That’s not a coherent plan with a rational objective. That is the whim of a Great Dictator.

    Funny way to attract investors back to America. We’ve got no rule of law, now give us your millions!

    #185909
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    His heart is pure, and his sole mission is to help humanity. ”

    Gee that rings a bell! Someone else said something just like that about someone else at some time. I just can’t quite come up with the names. Right on the tip of my tongue, too. Gimme a minute and I’m sure I’ll remember.

    #185910
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The weak point in the argument about how Socialists are the root of all evil is that evil was invented a LONG time before socialism. Maybe there’s something about Socialism that evil people find attractive? Or maybe there’s something about evil people that makes Socialism attractive to them. I dunno about either of those two possibilities but there’s one thing I know for damn sure. If you make the word and practice of Socialism unattractive enough the evil people will just give their brand of evil a new name and keep right on doing it.

    I suggest that you point out what makes “Socialism” evil and discourage people from doing whatever that is. Going after a label is a waste of time and energy. Like Nazi’s for example. Does anyone around here think that there are fewer folks around who think JUST LIKE the old WW2 vintage stone-cold-killer Nazi’s used to behave? Or has the club just changed brand names?

    #185911
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Agreed D Benton Smith

    Cluster B/Narcissistic Personality Disorder existed long before anyone codified it in the DSM IV. Who knows, maybe it existed in hominids before humans.

    As an atheist for almost 4 decades, watching 2016-2020’s unfold was like having to step into my own dogshit, feel the squish, smell the smell, realize it was now embedded in the treads of my shoe and I’d have to deal with that, while yelling “shit!”

    At the very least, religion is a prosthetic which you throw on the human psyche to moderate it, help it interface with itself and with reality. How exactly you find solutions for the human condition is apparently about as complex as creating and maintaining a nuclear reactor. You definitely want the solution that was beta-tested for thousands of years.

    But it can go the other way too. A malignant narcissist can make a self-glorifying, self-excusing construct for themselves to sit inside of – to facilitate their malignancy.

    This is not about labeling things. These are people who have SELF labeled themselves with a term and therefore conclude they are virtuous.

    This is about bringing their dogshit to their doorstep.

    So that they can have the visceral epiphany. Rather than both owning and not owning a thing. Doing evil while one’s shit does not stink.

    In the WAKE of that epiphany, there could conceivably be something called Socialism. OR some new, awesome thing that can look back, with success and distance, on Socialism with gratitude as an ancestor.

    Shall we have no Protestant movement, no Reformation in response/competition? For fear of labeling in too shallow a fashion?

    Totally evil people WILL just rebrand and keep going. Or just keep gaslighting without rebranding!

    But few people are totally evil. Shall they be left, trapped in a cul-de-sac made BY totally evil people?

    #185912
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Looks like Kash Patel stepped on someone’s toes (by showing interest in the wrong skeleton-filled closet). Notice the brazen lack of transparency surrounding his removal from ATF. It would have been so EASY PREASY to make him look like a genius hero who had found top talent to fill his shoes. Instead he was publicly spanked and made to look like a guy who got sacked.

    Sends a message, don’t it?

    #185913
    John Day
    Participant

    @Dr.D: I went through that girl-bosses-cheer-chanting themselves, and I get the point that there is a self-affirming female-groupthink piracy in the western workplace, which jb-hb has been documenting from the POV of competent-underling.
    I have gone through some of this before COVID, and it was a new-tyranny, but I was doing good work for cheap and was allowed to go see a therapist for the rude aggressions of a few angry females in the workplace against me… After which they promptly accused me, while I had said nothing, and there were no witnesses.

    #185914
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    America is being run by a much lower class of thug than it used to be.

    #185915
    jb-hb
    Participant

    It’s interesting that I have gone to great pains to explain my attitude towards Socialism over and over, yet somehow “the source of all evil” could be the takeaway.

    Or that I’ve worked hard at being creative for the past couple months, doing some NEW thing on Socialism EVERY SINGLE TIME – only to be accused of having a stereotypical repetitive things to say.

    I suspect on the 2nd count, kneejerk inversion-as-defense is the explanation. I’ll respond by giving a list of the various diverse things I covered sometime soon – socialists like diversity, after all.

    #185916
    John Day
    Participant

    Kash Patel was over-extended at FBI and ATF, and was not showing up at ATF.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/kash-patel-reportedly-removed-as-acting-atf-director-after-ghosting-gig/

    #185917
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @jb_hb

    Who knows, maybe it existed in hominids before humans.

    I reckon it did, and it’s worse in homo sap mostly because Cluster-B and the “Dark Triad” personality disorders are exacerbated by the capacity for abstract reasoning. The ability to think bigger and faster includes the ability to lie bigger and faster.

    #185918
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    What I find interesting about Kash Patel’s “Job Placement Disorder” is that he has somehow managed to keep the FBI job after being very publicly Bitch Slapped out of ATF. Watch carefully how well behaved he’s going to be from now on. Not that there ever was any real chance of FBI becoming anything other than the “Federal Blackmail Institute & Evidence Cleanup & Destruction Crew” that it has been from day one under Hoover.

    Still waiting on the P Diddy, Epstein and PizzaGate debacles to produce something better than lurid headlines in the grocery checkout isle tabloids at the local Piggly Wiggly.

    #185919
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Every time that the price of gold sloshes back and forth by 100 bucks (in both directions!) some really nefarious creeps pocket a few more billion dollars. Where do you suppose the tipping point will be when the value of those dollars drops far enough. Zimbabwe levels? Weimer Republic? The Confederacy?

    #185920
    Noirette
    Participant

    Trump is trying to prevent / stop / slow the Loss of the US Empire.

    He ran (2nd term) as a PEACE Prez. (Well they all do, really, I recall Bush Junior winning because he got the Muslim vote in the US, and then…) Money wasted on stupid International sorties is one easy aim-at point, as is the ‘immigant’ and DEI etc. issue, stuff. But all that is minor as compared to the US debt.

    Anyways, to come to the main point, Trump believes that by manipulating or controlling the score-card of money (basically who pays what to whom, why, via what means, under what rules, coerced by what, etc.) and the copey – smokey of narrative can serve to ‘win’, ‘to get a beautiful deal’, and so on, thus re-invigoratin’ US domination – MAGA in real, concrete, terms.

    All of which is a flimsy overlay of where the ‘real power’ – in terms of values, resistance, resilience, arms, patience, trickery, production / commodity / land / etc. assets, and more resides. It won’t work.

    #185921
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    “And this is why Conservatives don’t aspire to, don’t want to live in a Perfect world, just a pretty okay one.”

    And this is healthy for a functioning society, that a certain amount of crime or deviance exist. Without it society would stagnate, for it is often the deviants (rule-breakers), such as Kepler, Galileo and Luther, that move a society forward. In other words, a certain amount of criminal behavior is necessary to grind against society for it to evolve. Too little and it stagnates, too much and it breaks down.

    I never thought much about sociology until I read Emile Durkheim, who turned many of my cherished beliefs on their head.

    Durkheim Quote

    Also, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn like Fyodor Dostoevsky are literary geniuses, even though they just so happen to be evilly-evil Ruskies. You know, all those low-life mongrels that propelled the Bolshoi to the pinnacle of excellence.

    #185928
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Here is what Britanica has to say about Monsieur Emile Durkheim:
    “Durkheim was born into a Jewish family of very modest means, and it was taken for granted that he would become a rabbi, like his father. The death of his father before Durkheim was 20, however, burdened him with heavy responsibilities. As early as his late teens Durkheim became convinced that effort and even sorrow are more conducive to the spiritual progress of the individual than pleasure or joy. He became a gravely disciplined young man.

    As an excellent student at the Lycée Louis le Grand, Durkheim was a strong candidate to enter the renowned and highly competitive École Normale Supérieure in Paris. While taking his board examination at the Institut Jauffret in the Latin Quarter, he met another gifted young man from the provinces, Jean Jaurès, later to lead the French Socialist Party and at that time interested, like Durkheim, in philosophy and in the moral and social reform of his country. Jaurès won entrance to the École Normale in 1878; one year later Durkheim did the same.

    Durkheim’s religious faith had vanished by then, and his thought had become altogether secular but with a strong bent toward moral reform. Like a number of French philosophers during the Third Republic, Durkheim looked to science and in particular to social science and to profound educational reform as the means to avoid the perils of social disconnectedness, or “anomie,” as he was to call that condition in which norms for conduct were either absent, weak, or conflicting.

    He enjoyed the intellectual atmosphere of the École Normale—the discussion of metaphysical and political issues pursued with eagerness and animated by the utopian dreams of young men destined to be among the leaders of their country. Durkheim was respected by his peers and teachers, but he was impatient with the excessive stress on elegant rhetoric and surface polish then prevalent in French higher education. His teachers of philosophy struck him as too fond of generalities and too worshipful of the past.

    Fretting at the conventionality of formal examinations, Durkheim passed the last competitive examination in 1882 but without the brilliance that his friends had predicted for him. He then accepted a series of provincial assignments as a teacher of philosophy at the state secondary schools of Sens, Saint-Quentin, and Troyes between 1882 and 1887. In 1885–86 he took a year’s leave of absence to pursue research in Germany, where he was impressed by Wilhelm Wundt, a pioneering experimental psychologist. In 1887 he was appointed lecturer at the University of Bordeaux, where he subsequently became a professor and taught social philosophy until 1902. He then moved to the University of Paris, where he wrote some of his most important works and influenced a generation of scholars.”

    That sez it all, or at least enough for me. In brief, Durheim was one of the guys we have to thank for all the wonderfulness of modern society.

    #185929
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #185930
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    @DB-Smith

    You may be too easily influenced by “expert” opinion. Who’s to say how accurate is Britanica’s summary of Durkheim’s life, motivations, and contribution to the world? After reading The Daily Prophet, I immediately signed up with the Death Eaters to fight against Dumbledore, Harry Potter, and all his hair-brained, mudblood friends.

    State Media

    If you want to understand Durkheim, read Durkheim. The same goes for any revolutionary (non-approved) source of ideas. Go right to the source. Otherwise, you become just another victim of state-sponsored media, or jealous critics with an axe to grind. Both are skilled at tossing red herrings to throw you off the trail of knowledge and ideas that are dangerous to the status quo.

    I’m not saying Durkheim is the Holy Grail, only that his ideas were revolutionary to the newly formed discipline of sociology, as well as my own ideas about what is “good” or “bad” for society.

    #185931
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Some of what the Socialist party says they want in the US, including revolutionary action, and 2nd amendment rights for the working class :

    We are committed to the overthrow of capitalism and transformation of capitalist society through revolutionary action

    As we pursue a socialist transformation of society, we offer a platform of radical demands to the existing, capitalist system…

    We call for worker and community ownership and control of the means of production within the framework of a democratically determined economic plan…

    We call for increased and expanded welfare assistance and increased and expanded unemployment compensation at 100% of a worker’s previous income or the minimum wage, whichever is higher, for the full period of unemployment or re-training, whichever is longer…

    We call for an immediate minimum wage of $25 per hour, indexed to the cost of living…

    We support the provision of a livable guaranteed annual income

    We support the efforts of people of color to self-defense, self-determination, and to organize independently for their liberation

    We call for the right of retirement at age of 55 and a guaranteed, livable retirement income which is tax-free and protected from inflation by cost of living increases…

    We call for a constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to choose when, if, and how to have children, including the right to free abortion on demand at any stage of pregnancy, without interference or coercion…

    We oppose age-based curfew laws…

    We call for the abolition of parent consent and notification laws for reproductive health services, including abortion…

    We support guaranteed incomes and grants for artists and performers

    We call for the complete and immediate forgiveness of all outstanding student loans

    We call for full citizenship rights upon demonstrating six months of residency in the U.S…

    We call for a mandatory paper trail of all votes to allow for recounts and verification…

    We call for the right of prisoners to organize unions and cooperative groups to negotiate for better living conditions…

    We call for the ultimate replacement of the police with community residents trained in conflict resolution who live in and serve the community under community control…

    We recognize and support the right of the working class to keep and bear arms. We support community-based public training for gun owners…

    We call for the decriminalization of drug use and the regulation of narcotics by doctors through the use of prescriptions rather than by the criminal justice system…

    https://www.socialistpartyusa.net/platform

    #185932
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/zero-based-regulatory-budgeting-to-unleash-american-energy/
    ZERO-BASED REGULATORY BUDGETING TO UNLEASH AMERICAN ENERGY
    Executive Orders
    April 9, 2025
    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

    Section 1. Purpose. In our country, laws are supposed to provide the certainty and order necessary to foster liberty and innovation. Instead, our vast regulatory structure often serves to constrict ordered liberty, not promote it. The United States Code itself is more than 60,000 pages. But unelected agency officials write most of the complex, legally binding rules on top of that, often stretching these statutory provisions beyond what the Congress enacted.

    In particular, the previous administration added more pages to the Federal Register than any other in history, with the result that the Code of Federal Regulations now approaches a staggering 200,000 pages. These regulations linger in such volume that serious reexamination seldom occurs.
    This regime of governance-by-regulator has imposed particularly severe costs on energy production, where innovation is critical. The net result is an energy landscape perpetually trapped in the 1970s. By rescinding outdated regulations that serve as a drag on progress, we can stimulate innovation and deliver prosperity to everyday Americans.

    This order directs certain agencies to incorporate a sunset provision into their regulations governing energy production to the extent permitted by law, thus compelling those agencies to reexamine their regulations periodically to ensure that those rules serve the public good.

    Sec. 2. Definitions. For the purposes of this order:
    (a) “Conditional Sunset Date” means the date a regulation will cease to be effective and be removed from the Code of Federal Regulations, if the agency does not extend the Sunset Date pursuant to section 4(d) of this order.
    (b) “Covered Agency” means one of the agencies listed in section 3(a) of this order.
    (c) “Covered Regulation” means a regulation issued in whole or in part pursuant to a statutory authority listed in sections 3(b)-(j) of this order.
    (d) “DOGE Team Lead” means the leader of the DOGE Team at each agency as described in Executive Order 14158.
    (e) “Regulation” means each part, subpart, or individual provision of the Code of Federal Regulations promulgated under an agency rule as defined in 5 U.S.C. 551(4).

    Sec. 3. Covered Agencies and Regulations. (a) This order applies to the following agencies and their subcomponents: the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA); the Department of Energy (DoE); the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC); and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC). It further applies to the following agency subcomponents: the Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement (OSMRE), the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management (BOEM), the Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement (BSEE), and the United States Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), all within the Department of the Interior; and the United States Army Corps of Engineers (ACE), within the United States Army.
    (b) For the DoE, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the following statutes and any amendments thereto:
    (i) the Atomic Energy Act of 1954;
    (ii) the National Appliance Energy Conservation Act of 1987;
    (iii) the Energy Policy Act of 1992;
    (iv) the Energy Policy Act of 2005; and
    (v) the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007.
    (c) For FERC, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the following statutes and any amendments thereto:
    (i) the Federal Power Act of 1935;
    (ii) the Natural Gas Act of 1938; and
    (iii) the Powerplant and Industrial Fuel Use Act of 1978.
    (d) For the NRC, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the following statutes and any amendments thereto:
    (i) the Atomic Energy Act of 1954;
    (ii) the Energy Reorganization Act of 1974; and
    (iii) the Nuclear Waste Policy Act of 1982.
    (e) For the OSMRE, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act of 1977 and any amendments thereto.
    (f) For the BLM, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the following statutes and any amendments thereto:
    (i) the Mining Act of 1872;
    (ii) the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976; and
    (iii) the Energy Policy Act of 2005.
    (g) For the BOEM, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the following statutes and any amendments thereto:
    (i) the Outer Continental Shelf Act of 1953; and
    (ii) the Energy Policy Act of 2005.
    (h) For the BSEE, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the Outer Continental Shelf Act of 1953 and any amendments thereto.
    (i) For the FWS, this order applies to all regulations issued pursuant to the following statutes and any amendments thereto:
    (i) the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act;
    (ii) the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918;
    (iii) the Fish and Wildlife Coordination Act of 1934;
    (iv) the Anadromous Fish Conservation Act of 1965;
    (v) the Marine Mammal Protection Act of 1972;
    (vi) the Endangered Species Act of 1973;
    (vii) the Magnuson–Stevens Fishery Conservation and Management Act of 1976; and
    (viii) the Coastal Barrier Resources Act of 1982.
    (j) For the EPA and ACE, within 30 days of the date of this order, the Administrator of the EPA and Secretary of the Army shall provide to the President, through the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB Director), a list of statutes vesting EPA and ACE with regulatory authority that shall be subject to this order.

    Sec. 4. Zero-Based Regulating. (a) To the extent consistent with applicable law, each of the Covered Agencies shall issue a sunset rule, effective not later than September 30, 2025, that inserts a Conditional Sunset Date into each of their Covered Regulations.
    (b) The sunset rule shall provide that each Covered Regulation in effect on the date of this order shall have a Conditional Sunset Date of 1 year after the effective date of the sunset rule, subject to the process set forth in subsection (d) of this section. Unless the extension condition specified in subsection (d) of this section is satisfied, agencies will treat Covered Regulations as ceasing to be effective on that date for all purposes. An agency shall not take any action to enforce such an ineffective regulation and, to the maximum extent permitted by law, shall remove it from the Code of Federal Regulations.
    (c) In any new Covered Regulation, to the maximum extent consistent with law, the relevant Covered Agency shall include a Conditional Sunset Date that is not more than 5 years in the future. Amendments to any Covered Regulation shall provide that they do not reset that regulation’s Conditional Sunset Date and shall be subject to the same Conditional Sunset Date as the amended regulation. The OMB Director may exempt a new regulation or amendment from the requirements of this paragraph if he determines that the new regulation or amendment has a net deregulatory effect.
    (d) The sunset provision added to existing and new Covered Regulations shall provide that the agency will offer the public an opportunity to comment on the costs and benefits of each regulation, such as through a request for information, prior to a rule’s expiration, and following such opportunity the Conditional Sunset Date for that Covered Regulation may be extended if the agency finds an extension is warranted. A request for information shall not automatically extend the Conditional Sunset Date. A Covered Agency may extend the Conditional Sunset Date for a particular Covered Regulation as many times as is appropriate, but never to a date more than 5 years in the future.

    Sec. 5. Implementation. (a) Neither a determination to extend the Conditional Sunset Date of a particular regulation, nor a regulation that expires as a result this order, shall count towards the ten-for-one regulatory requirement in Executive Order 14192 of January 31, 2025 (Unleashing Prosperity Through Deregulation).
    (b) Agency heads shall coordinate with their DOGE Team Leads and the Office of Management and Budget to implement this order.
    (c) This order shall not apply to regulatory permitting regimes authorized by statute.

    Sec. 6. Severability. If any provision of this order, or the application of any provision to any agency, person or circumstance, is held to be invalid, the remainder of this order and the application of its provisions to any other agencies, persons or circumstances shall not be affected thereby.

    Sec. 7. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
    (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
    (ii) the functions of the OMB Director relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
    (b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
    (c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

    THE WHITE HOUSE,
    April 9, 2025.

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