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ParticipantIf you haven’t been following, General Soleimani may be one of the great generals alive today. I don’t follow all the trading cards closely, but he set Iran’s involvement in routing ISIS and protecting Iran.
I can’t fathom what some of the double-meaning diplo-speak is right now, Pompeo, et al, but rumor has is the U.S. (meaning, a certain administration via certain agencies) was trying to push local events by handing Iran nuclear technology so that they could make a mess in the M.E. That goes through several levels: the blueprints, the material, and the money on planefuls of pallets.
Now because that will spark a nuclear war via a certain Mediterranean neighbor, this administration (i.e., the Generals who are really placing and running things) is trying to reverse that breach by putting pressure on the elements in Iran to cough it back up and stand down. That is to say, their Deep State, because every nation has one, and they often work together against their civilian governments and people. Generals gonna general, know what I mean Dr. Strangelove?
Anyway, this goes with a secondary theory I have that the U.S. endgame is to have record-high oil prices. Which is obviously an END game, as in THE END of the US$ and Petrodollar system. But hey — I told you we were never going to pay, we were always going to default. But you didn’t think we’d let that be OUR fault, did you? Heavens no. We’re not so simple as to not engineer a proper villain and bogeyman first. Looking at you Saudi-Iran. Either one, we don’t care.
Aside from the obvious, note that the oil system is the only thing so large it will take down the U.S. banking system, and having run too long as a patch-over, the shale-frack system is wildly in debt and depleting fast. The only way to save it is to have HIGH oil prices…and naturally they will screw the middle class. Have you not been watching? They not only don’t have a vote, they exist solely to be harvested. This would only be a Band-Aid UNLESS there are disruptive wars and troubles, you know, the kind the CIA specialize in “helping”, in all the other oil producing nations, but especially the straits, S.A. and Iran. …Russia has been untouchable and off the ranch. And Lo! So it has been, so it shall be.
So put that way, a wild guess from people’s positioning on this. The Neocon’s evil plan for world domination may have failed…again…but they put in motion extremely large, irreversible forces that like it or not we’re still dealing with. It’s hard to put Pandora back in the box.
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ParticipantAnyone else interested in how despite constant news to the contrary, they have found none of Kashoggi’s body, and presented no evidence of his murder? No, not found in the garden. How do you miss that??? “I’m sorry, we mistook these tulip bulbs for a fibula.” Kashoggi was killed the second he stepped into the embassy, AND he sat down, called MBS on the phone, and was then slowly interrogated until things went south. I mean, pick one.
And who’s the driver of this nonsense? Al-Waleed? Brennon? Turkey? Why not us? The Arab Spring plan you can see on youtube, General Clark said we planned to attack 5 nations in order, ending with Syria. Other Neocons tell us the next target was Iran, then Saudi Arabia. So Syria/Iran is lost, by these losing losers and the losses they lose, but the plans move ever on. MBS was not a reformer as advertised and is running an deeply embarrassing war that is going to get the world motivated against the military complex. So you…lets say, give the green light, then have Turkey and Russia knock him out with a wildly, hilariously oversized scandal. Pompeo and Mattis just said as much as they are pinning forgiveness of MBS on the end to the Yemen war, which MBS does not seem likely to accept. …His country, having no oil left and huge problems, will collapse unless they can conquer it, which they can’t, because they are losing losers who apparently can’t win a hundred-billion dollar war using illegal WMDs against starving hillbillies. …Note to self, don’t attack hillbillies, they are greater men than you know.
Point being: what going on here? The media has whipped up an international war toppling governments on literally no evidence whatsoever, and in fact contradictory evidence all around. Starting at the beginning: who is Kashoggi? What possible jurisdiction do we have in a Saudi Embassy on Turkish soil with a Arab citizen? Is he dead, or kidnapped simply to create a furor? Since he’s been a Saudi Intel agent tied to the Muslim Brotherhood, why should we care? Where’s the body?
Beto was caught funding the Caravan, which is his right. …Presuming he’s not also on misuse of campaign funds for outside purposes. Who would stop him from feeding migrants if he believes in it? But that’s not the real point: the point is, if he gave a d–n about the people, he would simply sponsor their immigration — which he could do proudly and openly. He didn’t. Because he doesn’t WANT the immigrants safe, he WANTS them exhausted on the road, to be illegal, and to arrive at the border election night. What a rat. Suppose you meet a hitchhiker, and instead of picking them up or taking them home, you drive by and say, “if you can make it to my town, be sure to get arrested, I hear the lodging in county jails are quite refined. I’ll come see you then, without bail money.” You can imagine the stares. Like AYFKM? If you cared you would pick them up, drive them to the border station, have them declare asylum, and follow and support their case. …Which is how it’s supposed to happen. Which is what the GOP is asking for.
Shocked by Kunstler’s blatant article. A life-long Democrat 50 years, STILL a Democrat, hammering on Trump daily, and even HE prays the DNC will die a thousand deaths and burn to ashes, if only those ashes can birth a new party, someday. Dore has already abandoned them in favor of a (not existing) 3rd party, touring the nation on the basis of a non-spoiler, no more lesser-evil party. Blogger Timcast, center-left has said the same thing, the party he wants to vote for, and should fit into, what should be his own allies constantly attack him, and he has to report on some new racist offense, by the left, twice daily, so he cannot vote for them, however much we wants to and would. These are not good signs. If you can’t even get the politicized left-center of your own party, how are you going to win the broad mass of Americans who don’t really follow it or care? Danger: bridge out ahead. And we in the audience, watching the horror movie, shouting at the screen, “No! Don’t do it!” Dun dun dun! Jason pops out with an ax, which anyone could tell. Anyone EXCEPT the actor, in the script. And why??? That’s not even a tragedy, that’s just being a stupidhead.
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ParticipantThat’s great news: it’s nice to be appreciated. Can you simply swap server hosts to satisfy Europe? I assume Europeans will just move to Russian VPNs eventually, and get around it all completely, leaving Europe’s .net economy in the dust. Nice going! If they’re trying to destroy all Western values and roll back the Enlightenment, they’re right on target!
Watching the caravan travelling 30 miles a day: the U.S. military needs to interview these guys pronto, since a moving army can only manage 10 miles a day. They’re better than the Green Berets! In reality, they’re being trucked up on flatbeds, but not completely: they need a group walking for the media to film. …Which means it’s all staged, a sham, a photo-op. Is what it is. This has the world spellbound with drama, even as Europe puts their migrants into Greek concentration camps and slowly kills them. But Orange Man Bad, yes?
The U.N. tells Trump he has to take them all and in fact has started paying for the caravan’s logistics and legal. I’m sure that’ll go over well with the U.S., and DJT will obviously obey, since he’s a cooperative sort of fellow. This is in addition to how as purported refugees, they are required to request asylum in the first nation they can, i.e. Mexico. Not only did they refuse, and not only did they harm Mexican border patrol and violently break in — on camera–, Mexico stopped them on the way and offered them residency. They not only refused asylum, refused help and residency from Mexican government, they protested that they were being delayedand complained about the lack of free food and bathrooms. So…not so much refugees or what-not.
That was doubled up by, as refugees, or even prospective immigrants, they were carrying the flags of their home countries…which seems odd, a 1,000 mile journey, isn’t that heavy? You pack a Honduran flag but not a canteen and shoes? Anyway, they apparently love flags more than ISIS, because they ALSO brought an American flag, which as potential citizens, they burned in effigy while calling the President the anti-Christ. I have the funny feeling, if you DO like your home country, and DON’T like the new country, AND hate its leader, AND think that leader will shoot, oppress, and stop your (illegal) entry, you may be going the wrong way. Generally when I go somewhere, it’s because I WANT to go to that place and expect to like it better. Especially when I’d have to walk 1,000 miles: it better be AWESOME.
Speaking of, anyone ever take the Appalachian Trail? People do it yearly here and it requires extensive planning, logistics, money. A few pairs of shoes, a few tents, packs, ponchos, 3 months savings in food… I mean think about it: you go out your door in NY and have to walk to Miami. Or are in Gibraltar and want to pop up to Amsterdam. What would you bring? $3,000 cash in your front pocket? A 2nd pair of shoes around your neck? A raincoat? A stroller? Work it through for yourself. Okay, now there are 7,000 of you. Bridges may collapse under your weight. Where do you sleep each night? No food store has volume enough for a whole additional township, how do you eat off of empty shelves? Do the locals like you or fear you? Mexico is not exactly rich to donate a lot. Are there no petty robberies? And so on.
So this has never happened, ever, in 100 years of such travel. Why? Isn’t it odd that it’s never happened until a President says we WON’T take you, we’ll encamp on the border? Seems counterproductive. Wouldn’t it still be easier to ferme la bouche and slip across solo? So many questions, none of which asked, and none that are covered by the media circus.
But I can’t even get them to ask if the bombs were real or fake. (Turns out, 100% inert, hilarious fakes, yet FBI director Wray called them real. More questions.) And therefore, WHY would someone risk the same punishment as a real bomb when he was guaranteed not to harm anyone but himself? Did he LIKE his targets this much, felt extremely generous and kindly towards them? And how did he manage to send 14 within hours of each other? I can’t get a package to move reliably 300 miles within days. …And an entire notepad of such interesting questions.
It may be legit. There may be answers. But you won’t know it from the questions and coverage from THIS media. It’s:
#StarkRavingMadness
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ParticipantThe goat is old Nick. Beelzebub. Mephistopheles. Dare I say, Say-tan?

He looks a bit less formidable when he can’t even sit comfortably.
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ParticipantHard to be scared of a guy without opposable thumbs.
I drew a different conclusion from the seas: Once again, science admits they didn’t know what they were talking about and had to issue a correction. They were wrong by a 60% factor. This is in addition to how they don’t know, or are also arguing about, the actual level of CO2 emissions, and especially about how much consequence those estimated emissions have on heat in comparison to arctic methane, water vapor, and my favorite, solar intensity and sunspots. So in this article they are (wrongly) assuming any of that is known and settled, so they can measure very precisely how wrong they were and dramatically move on to making the case about how they didn’t realize the seas are really large. Funny, because the rest of us knew that. Large heat sinks, mostly because they are deep, unlike the land mass; and large, unimaginably massive sink for CO2, as it interacts with water, but also will change the pH. How much, nobody knows that level either.
Science: always wrong, never in doubt.
You know, it used to be to not be considered a grade-school moron and be drummed out of science in ignominy and disgrace, you had run experiments that got you under a 10% error rate — like 2-3%, to be considered credible in any possible fashion. Now? Meh, wrong by 60%, wrong on 100% of your climate models for 20 years in a row, it’s all good. Being wrong every year on every study just proves how expert you are. …Because all the other IYI experts are totally wrong in their fields: economics, sociology, heck, even physics hasn’t come up with a working theory since the 70s. Hawking tossed out the theory that made him famous on black holes, and the next day, they’re real again, used to calculate “dark matter” where science doesn’t know what 60% of the universe is made of. When are they going to call it in and start looking for a new approach? Open up to ideas that were considered taboo, all other avenues having been exhausted? Not in my lifetime, apparently.
“Sounds terrifying — until you actually look at what happened to global temperature after Gore’s film was released. Global temperatures showed little to no warming trend after Gore released his film. In fact, surface temperature data showed no significant global warming for a period of about 15 years, starting in the early 2000s…Satellite-derived temperature data showed, until the recent El Niño, no statistically significant warming trend for more than 21 years.”
And that’s with horrific and biased data throughout:
Honest errors like reading 82°c in Columbia (hot enough for tea?) and -46°c in Romania…in September. An average temperature of 0°c in the Caribbean, and altered sea temperatures…altered by their being taking aboard ships 100km inland. You know, little errors like that. Science! This is the root data set they’re using for historical temperatures. Just as we saw with erasing the Medieval Warming Period, the Dust Bowl, and record-cold in Australia. Their answer: “No we didn’t.” even though you can go to any newspaper archive or almanac and prove it did. The earth may actually be warming. It may even be because of CO2. But you won’t know it from these models and data sets because they’d be drummed out of a grade-school science fair with a baking soda volcano.
What can I say? No matter how many times we show the data sets, they suddenly “lose” the satellite data, then the whole satellite, then the ice cores, then the ice cores show the opposite of their theory, then they are exposed in emails as having rigged the data intentionally to frame their arguments, then they refuse to give the black-box climate model one researcher showed would make temperatures rise regardless of the input data, they’re still considered fully credible. This issue is fact-and-evidence free, a “science-free zone”, if you will. No one is embarrassed, no one is drummed out, no one fixes the data, no one reveals their methods. That is to say: it is literally not science, which requires open data, repeatable experiments, and predictions that are substantiated by time. …Not to mention consequences for being caught openly lying and fabricating for profit. Day after day, decade after decade. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
So…anybody follow the most recent word-soup papers happily published by “science”?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/duped-academic-journal-publishes-rewrite-of-mein-kampf-as-feminist-manifesto/
They had literally no trouble publishing more multiple papers of stark raving nonsense, computer-generated word soup. One journal even asked them to help with science peer review. BBC checked their story no further than those hoax journals did, then hand it to us for belief and consumption. Yes, BBC, the oceans are large. Science admits they can’t calculate what that means, so we have no idea if that’s warming absorbed, or if it isn’t; and therefore whether warming exists, or doesn’t, because they’re predicating an assumption they can’t prove on a model they can’t prove. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning #notscience.Ugh! Science is important! Why are they determined to make it look bad?
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Participant“And if it happens that the Dems don’t prevail, and don’t manage to get their hands on the machinery of congress — then what?”
DNC party officials have already said what: they will violently riot in the streets and cause “collateral damage” (Pelosi) until they get their way. Aside from being 100% anti-democratic, and aside from how, if they can’t win elections, what makes you think they’re going to win riots, the real point is, that’s not a winning campaign slogan. Or method.
Reform the party, kick out the dinosaurs, get a platform, help the people, and you’ll win in no time. Their own enemies are telling them this. Their own base is leaving the party over this. Yet for whatever reason, they won’t, and it’s my belief it will cost them even more than ’16. As much as the GOP has ceased to RINO and is becoming a new party, the DNC may cease to exist even in name, and be replaced by a Green, a Worker, or a Social Democratic party. But starting a whole new party takes time and if they do this — which begins to appear past tense — they wouldn’t be in a winning position for a generation.
This happens from time to time in America, at each turning. The Whigs, etc, and in the early 1800’s there was indeed only one effective party at all — though dispersed. It can happen. Everyone is hoping and begging them not to, but so far the motion has not been in a good direction.
Reform the party, kick out the dinosaurs, get a platform, help the people. #winning.
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Participant“Obama was killing them financially. “
Whyso? They could have said non-stop negative things about him, and the Right would have eaten it up. Ratings go through the roof, and there was plenty of material: drone strikes, killing whistleblowers, starting 15 wars, etc.
But they didn’t. They were 100% on board even though it was crippling their profits, and actually against journalism, where you’re supposed to dish (real) dirt on politicos. Now why is that?
Now, they may be holding short-term clicks but at the expense of long-term existence, as the whole nation seems to be distancing themselves from the legacy media, with only a remaining fringe attached, largely because they are still against journalism, refuse to report, or only with a slant, and can’t be trusted. Yet they are happy to fall on their swords, again. Why?
CNN is now every day smaller than reruns of Yogi Bear, smaller than any handful of off-beat, non-news bloggers like Mark Dice or such. And every time their business, their advertisers shrink, they suddenly discover they need to attack the competition and “help”, fight “fake news.” You know, last year by “de-monetizing” and therefore moving the half of advertisers that hadn’t run away to their friends and away from their enemies. This year by taking Jones, who is now measurably, easily larger (and more trusted, er…) than CNN and erasing them from the internet, erasing the competition in a ruthless, uncompetitive fashion Jay Gould or John D. Rockerfeller would be proud of (“Competition is a Sin”). As ad revenue keeps shrinking and their own censorship keeps driving click to the competition, this week they (illegally, as in anti-competitive collusion against the Trust Act) drove Gab.com off the internet, by cutting off their PayPal (owned by eBay) and also their server cloud because somebody used them. Calling Ford Motor Company! The 2017 Saipov truck attack in NYC used a Ford. Therefore, we need to shut down Ford Motors worldwide, cut their banking lines and erase them from the internet, along with all existing Ford owners, who are obviously terrorists too. Of course I’m a coincidence theorist and the erasing of Twitter’s competition by stopping both banking AND servers within minutes of each other is a complete coincidence. Just like last month’s purge of 1,000 people who were eating into corporate profits got purged by Twitter AND YouTube AND Facebook within hours of each other was also a complete coincidence.
It would seem without popular users, who draw followers in the millions and their yummy clicks, the companies might(?) make less profits, yet they’re happy to destroy both profit and their whole business model, AND get sued by users AND risk Federal regulation and anti-trust cases, in order to…get smaller, with fewer, highly annoyed users, less cool factor, and have to desperately steal the flagging remaining revenue by rallying the wagons and shooting the non-insiders?
Correct me here, but I’m suspecting the profit motive is not what’s driving CNN, Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc.
And if that isn’t their motive, then by their own actions, what is? What’s more important than money, more important than even the continued existence of their collectively multi-trillion corporations? What are they falling on their swords, committing financial suicide for? Interesting question, no?
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ParticipantInflation goes up in the quantity of money. However, that’s all backwards when “money” is debt. So increasing money increases debt, i.e., the future demand for money.
Prices increase only in comparison to something else. So asset prices are rising faster than goods and commodities. Later, when stocks collapse, you could say instead that goods and commodities are RISING vs stocks.
Or for more interest, MONEY is rising (e.g. US$) vs stocks. So the price isn’t falling, it’s rising. All the same thing, in relativity.
That’s why there’s so much trouble that DEBT is completely fixed by contract. Whether dollars are higher or lower — whether your product is higher or lower — you owe X many on Date Y. People adjust to inflation by over-borrowing, knowing they will be less valuable, even if they don’t realize it that way, they know what debt they can tolerate. However, if money RISES, then both dollars are harder to get, and more importantly, the value of all loan collateral FALLS. Then there’s a bank run, or more a financial run, as the exact same house, business, land, which was fine collateral a week ago, suddenly becomes half a house? Half a business? Half a property? Odd, isn’t it? But in any case, without collateral, and velocity, as you say, the financial system stops. Since no one works on a cash basis in 100 years or more, then purchases halt as well. For example, when the S&L crisis hit the U.S., automakers couldn’t sell cars for 18 months, because that type of bank made most of the loans. Today is little different, as mortgage market has been destroyed, and almost entirely replaced by the FHA government system. No one has any interest in returning loan origination to the free market. Why should they? And how can they when the prices are clearly too high and not worth the risk? They will come back into the market after it collapses and there’s adequate safety of collateral again, and will be vilified at that time for being evil vultures, playing off the misery of others made miserable by government subsidies and bailouts that kept both taxpayers in poverty, and locked a generation of homebuyers out of the market. But they will idolize and love the problem (too high prices) and hate the solution (low prices that finally clear the market without taxpayer subsidies.) Then they will sell socialism and vilify capitalism, when actually we’re predominantly socialist now.
Long story to say, isn’t it strange prices are vis a vis something else. Stocks aren’t going up: money is going down.
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ParticipantAh Varoufakis, we hardly knew ye. So instead of creating a party that can actually vote and rule, they’re creating an Internationale Brotherhood of Progressives. Okay. Explains what Bernie’s been doing when people are begging him to come out and start a 3rd party or something. He is, but apparently one that won’t work to compete/replace the Democrats.
But that’s an aside. What was interesting was “the nationalists, the racists – like Trump, Bannon, [German Interior Minister Horst] Seehofer, Salvini — they are internationalists,”
I’m sorry, what? The prime populist candidate of “America First”, who daily berates Globalists and is in turn berated because he isn’t one, yet is in fact, a Globalist. …The kind of world-unifying, internationally-minded, border-destroying leader, that is both withdraw from PPT, Paris, and U.N. treaties that is putting up national trade barriers, and building a wall? That kind of open-border, free-trade Internationalist? Because I think you might have noticed he’s the OPPOSITE of that word, as in, “I don’t think that word mean what you think it means.”
And P.S., as much as every day I repeat that Fascists are Socialists — National Socialist Workers Party, or Mussolini was a labor organizer, the difference between fascists and socialists are, while they both want a total merger of corporations and state with overwhelming authoritarian state power crushing the people, fascists believe in their National power and heritage, while Socialists want the International communist revolution of ALL states. That is, by definition, fascists are not “Globalists” or “Internationalists” except in as far as they wish to take over the world. That is, literally the opposite, which is why they were street-fighting in Germany in the first place.
Please stop the madness and start using words according to their actual definitions when you are in a position of power and influence. Please. My mind is melting when everything is its own opposite, and a thing and its opposite are always both true. Oh, and when everyone nods and carries on as if the people and their publishers shouldn’t be fish-slapped to straighten their ways.
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master – – that is all.”Is he saying “I just make s–t up to win arguments and make people obey, and don’t give a d–n about truth? ‘Cause that sounds real familiar.
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Participant” it would likely force platforms such as YouTube to allow only content from a hand-picked group of companies.”
Ding! Ding! Ding! Exactly as planned. Free speech and free ideas on the internet is the enemy. We need to put humanity back into the box of 1-5 fully authorized and on-board networks, and save CNN from total extinction. …Not that they would censor ideas, create war rooms to promote hand-picked candidates, or silence people or whole movements. Perish the thought. It’s crazy to think someday that might happen here.
Good luck though, everyone will just incorporate in Tunisia or Ukraine.
It’s crazier than that with the food. Not only do they spray it, not only do they kill every bug, not only do they contaminate the soil and illegally cross-pollinate their neighbors, but standard procedure is to spray Roundup IMMEDIATELY before harvest for maximum toxicity. I kid, technically it’s to kill the wheat and thereby save a tiny margin on drying costs, but the point’s the same. Maybe they should just spray it in the grain silos, soak the flour bag in glyphosate, or give a little vinegar bottle on each table to sprinkle on your plate, because, same thing.
Golly! Whyever is everyone so sick lately? Like since about 1980? I dunno Scooby, sure sounds like a mystery to me.
I have no idea what is going on with Kashoggi, but I do know it’s a set-up, meant to be as inflammatory as humanly possible. That means it’s a power play where I don’t trust any of the players. But, kill a guy IN your embassy, on national TV, a day before you have to beg donors to invest in your failing nation, while already teetering the pressure of arms sales and human rights in Yemen? No, I don’t buy that. It’s a frame-up, but we’re not on the inside from who to who.
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ParticipantMonet’s trees are coppice-wood. See the knuckle up at ladder-height, with the sapwood suckers coming out? There’s a lot of them in Europe but not so much the ‘States. Unique and useful, gowing faster on big roots than saplings, and cut to length and have special uses, like weaving, fences, baskets, and the like. Something we ‘Yanks should try sometime.
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Participant• How Everything Has Changed Since Trump Became President (CNBC) “the best economy the country has seen”
Ugh. Nothing has changed from Trump, despite the headlines, and the economy has barely moved. But don’t let little things like the truth get in the way of a good story. Still, a refreshing change from “orange man bad”, even if it’s fake in the opposite direction.
Janda’s on my belief in the Trump-Powell WWF WrestleMania! To tar the Fed — and rightfully so — to blame the inevitable collapse on insider cartel theft and rigging. That’s why he has Andrew Jackson — the first Democrat — on his wall.
We continue on with the re-Brexit, as they voted wrong and now, having been sufficiently punished by their betters for their wrong-think, will call a new referendum so they can “vote right” next time. Same with Mansanto, calling off a long, arduous trial because the one-man judge thinks the 12-man jury is doin’ it wrong. “Experts” always know better. For that matter, Federal judges re-deciding laws excruciatingly passed by Congress, saying legal is illegal, illegal is legal, or I, personally, don’t like it, so I put a stop on the entire nation and all of government, making a dictatorship of random thousands, un-named, un-impeachable.
Speaking of, sad to say the DNC is running the ’16 election again, just as everyone, friends and opponents alike screamed and begged them not to. …I’m speechless. Literally your enemy is telling you how to win, they don’t want you to commit suicide on national TV. It’s creepy. Get a platform, help the people, reform the party, get rid of the dinosaurs. …Same as they said in ’16 before — and literally admitted on several legal records now — the HRC election-tampered to drum out Bernie, a federal crime. Not satisfied with re-running a re-losing election, despite left, right, and center screaming at them to “Stop! Cliff ahead!”, Hillary said they will NOT change their platform and attract voters but instead make trouble and violence until they own everything again.
…Stop me here, but I THINK that means she is advocating against democracy itself, whereby the losing party gracefully concedes, then works with the people to gain enough support to oust the ruling party at the next election. …You know, it stops factions shooting each other in the street with our 300 million guns and good stuff like that. Yesterday Pelosi added her voice to many others, like Maxine Waters of harass anyone she doesn’t agree with (itself a well-established felony) wherever they may be — public, private, at home, and Pelosi said, “if there’s collateral damage (the military’s best euphemism for murder of innocent non-combatants) for those who don’t share our views, so be it.” So, the harass and murder people in the streets party? What are you thinking?
As violent as America is, this is not a wining campaign, or an avenue that will get support. Despite fake news 99% of the time, with articles (and journalists!) all on the extreme fringes of left and right, the general mass of Americans, like all people worldwide, just want to have peace and order, rules and norms, and not be bothered with a lot of screaming, so they are safe to go to work, pick up the kids and go home. They won’t especially care which party, left or right, does this for them, so the ideas promoted at present are astonishing. Breathtaking. Gob-smacking. And losing.
What can I, we, say? People from the farthest left to the farthest right have advised them not to do this, but they seem incapable of stopping and incapable of relinquishing power to those who CAN win. …Well, just like the GOP ignored and shut down change when the TEA party (Taxed Enough Already, the anti-bailout: therefore anti-fascist party) appeared, and when not heeded, DJT followed to burn them all down. No surprise. Nobody learns. So although mid-terms are all local, which makes blue vote blue and red vote red, my guess is the GOP may actually INCREASE their seats in Congress enough to have a safe majority. Strange but true, and I said it in ’16 as well.
Why oh why would you RE-run an election that catastrophically lost? Why oh why won’t you help the people, the workers, and get a platform? No one knows, but I hope they fix it soon. Right now the black and Latino vote is moving GOP like that “racist” Bannon said, (while working for a Jewish paper), and they may not reclaim it for a generation. SMH. Each day as inexplicable as the last. Stuck in the middle with you.
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Participant• Male Birds Can Be Good Singers Or Good Looking, But Not Both (NS)
Well, that explains The Rolling Stones and Aerosmith.
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ParticipantQuite so.
Communist China was able to become a market society because they were adopting Capitalism 2.0: Central bank and central planners, rigging stocks, bonds, loans, and development, with all insider favors and bailouts. ….Just like us.
They grow up so fast, don’t they?
Now the inherent “distortions” as they say, have ruined the flow of the market mechanism and the gears are all gummed up. Since the corruption, fraud, the sand and rust and sugar taffy is everywhere, in every gear and pinon, every official is involved, they all made their fortunes on corruption for a generation and know only this, they can’t just pull a lever and start fresh. Big trouble ahead.
And I’m talking about us. China may or may not be in the same situation. I don’t know. At least everyone over there understands there is no rule of law; only bureaucracy.
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ParticipantI’m so dumb sometimes. Of COURSE the media, that didn’t care about a million in Yemen, don’t care about Skripal or Assange too, don’t care about Kashoggi either.
First, who’s Kashoggi? Yes, a reporter, one who interviewed Bin Laden, and recently of the inside-connected CIA-friendly WaPo. But also nephew of an infamous arms dealer, an inside Saudi, and pretty-well substantiated a carrier for the Muslim Brotherhood. He ran Saudi & co. missions in Afghanistan, Africa, and elsewhere. In other words…not really a reporter. Or at least not primarily. So?
Second, so Saudi had him killed, in a string of 4 or 5 anti-Saudi reporters this year, mostly tracking dirty European payoffs back to the Princes. Those weren’t exactly secret, they were sending a message, but look at what is reported now: 15 international mercenaries, Saudi security team, openly fly together on commercial, land in the Turkey airport, are seen on camera together, and go to the Embassy. Their target is Kashoggi, who has been everywhere, has an address, and is easy to find and simple to kill in the dangerous streets of Istanbul. Instead, they walk into the Embassy on camera, and wait for Kashoggi to arrive on camera, as every embassy can be certain the host country absolutely WILL have 360 surveillance pointed at it 24/7.
Despite being a security hazard and a professional security team, they have him bugged, reportedly with an Apple watch, which cheerfully reports the violent murder home to Turkey. Having done this egregious act, they then send in a cleaning crew on camera, with mops and buckets, as if there are no cleaning supplies already inside.
The media then knows who, what, where, when, and why within an hour, as a unified narrative exists more or less immediately. Despite having chopped off heads longer than we’ve known them, despite imprisoning or killing dissidents, gays, even people drinking a beer or having a hookup for life sentences, the media, business, banks, that is to say, the Deep State instantly boycotts Saudi and their business conferences, basically before an investigation can be launched. The Media demands Trump jump to conclusions, and what? Dissolve the alliance and the petrodollar before Friday this week, or else? Or else he’s enabling Saudi violence they’ve exhibited since 1940, and certainly every day for the last 10 years as they man 9-11, fund ISIS, and attack Yemen with our weapons, all openly, and openly, enthusiastically cheered, sharply defended by the exact people decrying it now: CNN, WaPo, banks…
I’ve got a better theory: like planes going down, China in Djibouti, and chemical attacks washed down with a rag and a garden hose, this is the 20th attempt this year to start WWIII and escape their crimes.
Like everyone, Saudi Arabia is not “a country” but an associated web of power blocs. Lately, that’s blown into the open as MBS takes on his hundred brothers, a few going down in plane crashes, some hung upside down in the Ritz-Carleton until they coughed up a few billion in crooked money, and CIA-connected Prince AL Waleed. How connected is that other faction of Saudi Arabia? (and let’s just simplify and say there are only two right now) Well, the last head of the US/CIA wing was widely called Bandar “Bush”, since he and the Bush interests were indistinguishable going back 30 years. Bush Senior. So, yeah, pretty close.
Now that MBS has dismembered the CIA/Alwaleed/Bandar Bush faction (who also tried to counter-assassinate him 2-3 times), they are counterattacking by knocking out MBS, and MBS’s support through the non-CIA U.S. and DJT. They can put a wedge between Turkey, the U.S., and Saudi Arabia, even if that means sending Saudi into the arms of China. Doing so will rock the U.S. and economy, and be able to tie Trump’s support (which, true or false, they will always report in the same breath, coughRussiaRussiaRussiacough) and therefore paint Trump with a failing market and world economy. They can then regain and ring-fence the power center in their repressive holdout in Saudi Arabia, which was slipping from their grasp.
…Oh and hopefully get enough sparks to start the long-desired Mideast war, dragging in China, Russia, and the U.S. in WWIII, kill millions or billions, make a ton of profit, and re-establish control.
So which sounds more likely, Saudi Arabia, instead of having a dissident have a quiet, unprovable accident in the busy streets of Istanbul, instead get their secret security team on 100 cameras, then dismember him on film in the most inflammatory way possible, then immediately leak that crime to the arms of a waiting media, who suddenly cares about violence they’ve been cheering for decades?
So what’s with the embassy? All you need is the consulate there to be sympathetic to the anti-MBS plan, to be concerned about a crime he committed that MBS will eventually tag him for. Then he can set the action, forge the documents, and make a paper trail that at first revue, and for the mercenaries, appear as if it’s authorized by the core Saudi line, not a rogue faction. Because as we’ve seen in the U.S. lately, a rogue, dissident faction IS the government, and until purged, are the same people, with the same paperwork.
All they have to do is get Trump to mouth off and jump at the bait, which they believe he’s ADHD and violent, impulsive, irrational. …And yet again, he is not, and they fail.
The 4 powers, U.S., Turkey, Saudi, and Russia, are instead running a real, methodical investigation and looking for the real story. WWIII does not look likely, and the media looks vapid. Again. You’d think they’d learn.
So since this is all staged, and Kashoggi is an MB insider, you think he’s actually on a Thai beach sipping mai-tais right now? After his little vocal acting for the Turkish cameras? Or did he meet a burn notice with a bad actor? Stay tuned…more distractions from declass and sedition trials will be forthcoming.
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ParticipantAlso from ‘experts’ “helping’:
• UK Restaurants And Cafes Throw Out 320 Million Fresh Meals A Year (G.)
Helping! Helping so much!!! This is the consequence of very tight food inspection and safety laws. They require that all non-perfect food be removed. The next edition of ‘helping’ were tort lawyers, who, if you give 2nds away, will then turn around and sue you to penury because that disposed, clearly substandard food was not perfect, when obviously it wouldn’t be given away if it were prime. So their greed, and that of a few sue-happy clients hold society hostage, unable to do rational, reasonable, efficient things. Why? Because it’s all enforced by government with extreme violence. How about being driven out of business, jailed and bankrupted for a bagel? Amish family-SWAT teamed for selling milk? Government knows no limit and no reason. As Washington said, “Government is not reason, it is not eloquence — it is force. Like fire it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.” …Which we tell it to do now for 90% of what it does, and wonder why things go wrong.
So thanks to 100 years of helping, food is ever-expensive, completely wasted, irrationally produced, and expensively disposed. This hurts the poor, not the rich. The business owners, who might get some pittance for it, now get nothing. And this is the same with building codes, housing, everything. It’s required by law to be perfect, or else we come down on *the poor* with a hammer and confiscate it all. Used to be if you were poor, you’d shack up at a flop house down by the pier. However, the flop house had unsavory — dare I say, poor — people living there, and the structure wasn’t as safe as a mansion on the hill — no duh, eh? So “for the good of the poor” because the ‘experts’ cared so very, very much,
they raised their pay,kidding, the mansions on the hill outlawed boarding houses and forced all those patrons into their hotels and tenements. …From pure charity, of course.So the poor are in better, safer houses, what’s the loss? The harm, besides that all the income rotates to the rich and away from modest widows renting a spare room, is that you’ve now engineered a chasm between rich and poor, guarded by force of law. If you wash ashore, homeless, addicted, at the bottom rung, you cannot get a job, a room, a second rate meal and work your way with upward mobility. You need a credit check, first and last month’s security for room and utilities, are required by law to have electric and phone, you must pay full price for all food, a suit and phone for job interviews, and you can’t work on the fly until you have these things. Thanks to their most profitable ‘help’, the gap between homelessness and the worst conditions are something like $2,500 cash, paid today. Because they’ve “helped” the poor out of all upward mobility, they then have to solve the problem they just created by creating a welfare system that will use taxpayer’s money to then pay the utility company and private landlord, with all the delay and waste this creates — 60% of all funds taken, by some audits. This money, taken from the poor, is then ultra-regressively given to the landlords and mansion on the hill, whereby we either have socialism, or its twin brother fascism, the merging of government and private interests, in one big happy circle jerk, jerking off the poor, who now live in cardboard boxes under a bridge in DesMoines instead of an “unsafe” boarding house run by Mrs. Muir.
“Helping”, in today’s article, by sending to landfills 320 Million high-quality meals, while Britain’s children are white with hunger. But I’m sure, if we help just a little bit more, a little harder, with a few more taxes and a little more government regulation, it’ll work out this time.
“the principal lessons of our tragic century… is—beware intellectuals.”
Dr. D
ParticipantSpeaking of…
• On Theresa May, Danny DeVito and ‘Other People’s Money’ (Pettifor)
That is indeed the Keynesian belief, and therefore the model of nearly all expert economists. There’s three problems though: one is that Keynes himself moved away from this at the end of his career, two, it doesn’t work and has displayed paradoxes inexplicable to these same “experts”, who never bothered to solve or address them since 1972, and three, the same thing I say every time: you can print all the money you want, but that doesn’t make wealth. Wealth only comes from hard work, which economists, having never done any work in their god-forsaken lives, can’t seem to understand. So yes, under the present rules, you CAN print all the money you want, and Argentina, Zimbabwe, and Venezuela do. However, there are consequences.
And P.S. don’t blow smoke up the nether side about how no one pays taxes. If that’s true, they’d stop taxing altogether, when in reality these self-same Keynesian economists always want to infinitely RAISE taxes, to 90% or more, and call tax-reduction Neanderthal voodoo regressive economics. Genius Armstrong does indeed say the governments should simply stop lying about taxes and tax the nation via inflation, and while that’s a good idea, it would highlight how inflation is the most regressive tax possible, hurting exclusively the poorest and the outsiders, and exclusively increasing the wealth disparity and concentration of power. …Which is why billionaires, governments, and their paid handmaidens, Keynesian economists, advocate it. University experts always have a new reason to suck up to power and kill a few million poor, just as Paul Johnson says.
The system as it runs pays interest to private cartels and billionaires on the people’s own money, and the tax receipts are the collateral for that loan that is an unnecessary overhead expense. Ultimately, all governments default on all loans, generally via a catastrophic war that kills millions, as Adam Smith noted in 1775. 9 out of 10 Keynesian experts approve.
I never thought I’d see these progressives–who begged for a central bank and taxing–flip and promote tax cut and stimulus of Ronald Reagan, but why not? It might be the least crazy thing I’ve read this week. If you really want to be progressive, stop paying 1/3 of the people’s money in interest to insider billionaires and business cartels, who then turn around and buy Parliament, and adopt Hamilton’s “American Plan” where the government issues money directly, without a private bank.
But I jest. Clearly they will advocate paying that 1/3rd to RBS and Lloyd’s and cut the National Health. Because that’s what they’ve already done, past-tense.
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Participant“One of the principal lessons of our tragic century, which has seen so many millions of innocent lives sacrificed in schemes to improve the lot of humanity, is—beware intellectuals. Not merely should they be kept away from the levers of power, they should also be objects of particular suspicion when they seek to offer collective advice.” –British historian Paul Johnson
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ParticipantFrom the other day, all markets are rigged, and Bitcoin is no exception. I’ve been shocked at the speed with which they were able to get into the exchanges, but I guess that’s what happens when you combine unlimited printing-press money and unlimited power coming from zero enforcement of any laws against banks and brokers–or anyone. But it’s pretty well known the Tether/EOS/BlockOne and their exchange + 100% owned Hillbilly Community Bank are all open, transparent frauds, designed not only to kite and cap Etherium, but rig BTC via Tether to great profit.
But what I really keep missing is the inexplicable complacency with which everyone approaches open fraud and theft. Here the Crypto-people are founded on security, openness, and proof, and really anarcho-capitalists and libertarians to the core. Nope. Give than an open fraud like Tether/BlockOne, run by open convicted pedophiles or Bitconnect, a mathematically certain pyramid scheme that must collapse on schedule and they defend it with fury AGAINST the voices of reason. Wave a dollar of speculation gains on the 2,000 coins in front of them and all the principles go out the window. They’re thrilled to be in exchanges that churn 100% of all coins mined weekly, and more than accept HFT input, they actually INCENTIVIZE it, with dollars. That means somebody is paying to take a loss to make sure the barn doors are wide open to circular self-trades, then reported as market-trades, which set the price. –Remember, exchanges trade no coin. They are not on the Blockchain. They are internal-only. And they say, “Der, looks good to me!!” and happily trade on these exchanges, and their “prices” as happily as ever they did in the gold, oil, and Amazon market, which are equally rigged.
So…what can I say? How about,
“Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world…
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.” W.B. YeatsDr. D
ParticipantNBC, also not-news network, “depressed asset values” What asset values? Every other article highlights how the Dow and housing are massively OVERvalued. But hey, why demand coherence? …Back in the real world, this is probably true as no one from Wilkes-Barre to Sacramento has cash enough over the last 20 years to own stock, PLUS their houses are collapsing like Detroit while the 12 blessed cities have values 50% higher than incomes, (4x instead of 2x incomes). So it’s probably true, but that’s what happens when you report lies the other 364 days of the year.
As the older are actually the RICHEST demographic, and that’s WITH having no money and having to work, those jobs they can’t give up won’t pass on to Millennials…or are we talking about screwing Gen Z yet? It’s been so long. So they also can’t sell their stocks and houses because retirees are supposed to be slowly transferring their long-save wealth to the working young…who are living in their basement, and no longer have any intent of investing or owning, it having been beaten out of them for 20 years. So nice going! Central planning at its finest, having the governments rig markets to buy age-specific votes, while, no surprise, running the country off the rails, as there’s no information-feed via market price discovery. Home prices still going up, young people still going down, in all the Anglo countries.
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ParticipantGoes to show how journalists think: a thousand guys blown apart, dismembered, a country of a million starved, poisoned, destroyed? Meh. But ONE JOURNALIST??? OMG stop the world something terrible has happened!!! Call out the boycotts, the Marines, even JP Morgan if we have to!!! …And then there’s ISIS which they fully and openly funded, after discussing it for years, and even having the U.S. attempt to take over Syria for them as far back as the 50’s. …And did I mention when they invaded Bahrain?
But there was a journalist. Really.
As in they are the ME generation, narcissistic beyond imagining, and only care for themselves. Really.
When Saudi oil goes down, the Petrodollar goes down. But the U.S. was going to take Saudi down LAST, after the other 5 nations, ending with Syria, and then facing Iran. But since Saudi has no more oil, I guess the time is now.
Related, while the U.S. was doing what they do best, a circus show, Putin signed India on to 6 nuke plants and a massive oil pipeline down the Silk Road. Guess Oceania don’t provide India with outdated energy no more. As a market as massive as Europe, let the fireworks begin.
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ParticipantHalf an hour? That doesn’t sound bad at all. People often jaunt off around the neighborhood half an hour just to get out after dinner.
I can vouch that every American city I’ve been to is a food desert, but we’re talking 10 MILES, or basically a DAY’s walk away. This is partially because of tax/development regulations, and especially their enforcement. Safeway, “they’re Pros, they’re good for it” while Pa’s Bodega is hammered by food inspection, IRS audits, and food stamp officials. That’s in ADDITION to 3x city rents and no tax incentives you get for paving a cornfield instead of using existing space. P.S., those tax “incentives” for WalMart come FROM those existing groceries and corner stores, who get a kick in the teeth. So if you ever want to know why inner city people are fat and nearly dead, who can’t get anything but Doritos and moldy apples in a 5 mile radius, and there are no small businesses providing jobs, look no further than your local officials, who destroy all competition of their real owners, exactly as directed.
Not be unbalanced, as you see where my heart lies, and you can see what they’re up against, the OTHER major reason for stores to leave is security. They are robbed constantly, both in the dangerous sense, but also in the pilfering sense, and not just by the people, but the employees of those neighborhoods too, who feel it’s not a crime to rob a rich corporation. And maybe, so, maybe you’re just getting your own money back like they say, but why would anyone keep a store open against diminishing margins, rising government attacks, and in a hostile location? The only reason TO do that would be higher prices, and the neighborhoods can’t support it. So they leave, make 30% more margin, have no trouble, because they’re not in the social welfare business. They’re perfectly happy to be open in all kinds of places, even bad ones, but they won’t stay if you’re going to shoot them. And sadly, that’s what’s happening in the American cities I’m describing.
Stop helping, stop bugging them, and the locals will seed good capitalists and hustle all the services the neighborhood itself needs from within, same as they once did when this city was but a forest. Human nature hasn’t changed. But between the police and lobbyists, they’ve outlawed these men and their stores, thereby collapsing the cities, and the black business community for instance. Let them do what they used to do, even in 1950, and they’ll bounce back instantly. STOP HELPING. LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE. They will self-organize and self-protect for almost no cost, as they’re doing in Mexico now. Or have they not killed and destroyed enough yet?
Dr. D
ParticipantSnappy and well-written. Cutting to the real point that the single purpose for markets is price discovery. Without price discovery, we have a soviet system of central planning, but worse. Worse because we can’t see that’s what happens, and worse because the system isn’t asking for more tractors we can need, the inputs just cascade mindlessly, demanding more houses in S.F. and more government debt. –You get what you subsidize and not what you tax, no surprise.
Seychelles, that’s what history says alright, and it’s a hard taskmaster. However, it’s hard to be sure. The market was supposed to crash and the bonds fail, housing drop to cash income, and say metals and wheat rise 20 years ago. Or 40 years ago, in 1979, yet they keep the plate spinning, and, to my amazement, people just keep loving ever-further lies and frauds. If you’re off by 20 years, or even say 4 years, it can have big consequences. That’s why so many are in the market, trained to risk all for those 4, 10, 20 years. What else can they do? When markets are rigged, that is to say, there’s no price discovery, things that are in shortage get cheaper, and stocks that are bankrupt get richer. Hard to rest on the sidelines in the general madness.
P.S. if you’re into the elite insider theory, 10/10/18 was a magic date for them, the window they wanted to kick off the big wars and troubles, before their plan went off the rails. That being the day they hit the market going into a midterm election is just another big coincidence, I’m sure. But history is riding them now too instead of the other way ‘round.
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ParticipantLeaving Disgraceful EU Farming System (Monbiot)
Government helping! Helping so much!!! Once again good intent clears the way to which well-known location? And knowing a thousand years of this, Monbiot and we all say “I have good intent, and the answer is more government!” Much, much moar!
Dr. D
Participant• Trump “Doesn’t Like What The Fed Is Doing”
This is all a stage fight. Somehow Trump hired him but “didn’t know” what Powell was going to do. Riiight. And now he’s raising rates, hammering the world and sucking out liquidity. But he “doesn’t know” that will cause a crisis with 10x more debt than ’08. Riiight. And higher rates won’t cause a government default when it both hits the U.S. economy and our $20T debt. Riiight.
I’ve got a better explanation: the U.S. isn’t going to pay the $20T debt, it never intended to pay it, Adam Smith said in 1775 that no country has ever paid it, it’s mathematically impossible to pay it, and it certainly isn’t going to pay it now. But that leaves the REAL problem: who’s going to take the blame for the default and the resulting worldwide shutdown and reset. The Neocons were going to take over the world and tell them to “suck it, peasants, the new order is unlimited authoritarian fascism, submit or die,” but we see how that worked out for them. The next gambit was to force Chinese Yuan valuation, that would collapse this important economy and world trade, but the Chinese, needless to say, are not stupid and don’t take orders from maniacs. Then they tried to start WWIII about 20 times, in NoKo, China Sea, Syria, Ukraine, Iran, the Red Sea, etc. That leaves the window of active airspace running out fast. They were going to blame it on Trump, but owning the Fed, the PPT, the Wall Street market-rigging HFTs, and the Exchange Stabilization fund, Trump happily rigged worldwide prices and Dow wildly upward, enough to make even Obama proud.
But with $1T/year in Federal debt alone you’re either going to pay or default, and the plan was always to default, hide our assets and play broke like all good bankrupts, then restart, “suddenly finding” all those oil fields on all 4 coasts we haven’t drilled since the petrodollar in 1975, happily using Saudi and foreign oil. That’s why we were pipeline-crazed with no oil under Obama.
So what is the Trump-Powell WWF up to? Be “independent” and “opposed” so they can’t blame Trump, cause a liquidity crisis that actually INCREASES the US$, the core currency, then restructure the debt, the dollar, and the Fed at our leisure. …Because that was long-planned since 1971, and inevitable anyway. And Powell is just playing his part, as is Trump, Wall Street, and incidentally all the Democrats too, who cheerfully play along in their own Right-Left tag team since WWII. Sorry, but that’s where were all going in this handbasket. The U.S., Canada, Europe, and China too. And Powell’s driving. We’re probably already over the event horizon where it says “Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch’intrate”, or is it, “The truth and hard work will set you free”?
Dr. D
ParticipantThe cartoon really says it all. Runaway change has been 10 years away for 30 years now. Just like cold fusion, Iranian nukes, and the singularity. Gore’s movie promised New York would be underwater by 2016. Sea levels haven’t raised an inch.
The concept, and yes, you can go read all their public white papers, was frustration in the environmental community for lack of progress. They needed a crisis, an emergency, an alien landing to make people wake up and take the major action they wanted. But there wasn’t any. So when the opportunity arrived, everyone jumped on the AGW bandwagon, not much caring if it were true or false, not caring that only 10 years previous the same experts warned of an ice age.
It certainly galvanized focus and environmental science, however, not being true, or at least every climate model so far being discredited, all the predictions failing to occur, and all their solutions designed to increase central power and tax the poor, it ran into ever-increasing headwinds until now it’s stalled completely. That’s what happens when you back a bad premise with force. Meanwhile, human efforts have gone into discrediting AGW, and the monthly leaks about data-rigging instead of, as the cartoon shows, being honest and just making life better and more ecological, everywhere, for everyone, which, by definition using less energy, is more economical for everyone. Standards of living rise, use of energy per person falls. We all roll back the life-sucking suburban driving Geography of Nowhere, and build Hobbiton instead. Win-win.
Nope. Instead of selling people on a better, happier way, with prototype organic success to show, they built a premise on hate, power, and telling other people what to do without doing any of those things themselves. Built on more money, more concentration of wealth and power, more taxes, and higher GDP, instead of doing and building less in a happier, more resilient way.
Then again, it’s not really their fault. Under a debt-money system lowering GDP at all — which by definition is not just the lowering of energy use, but the ever-INCREASING energy use, AT ALL — will collapse the entire debt pyramid and money system that keeps everyone of any influence in power. And they’re not going to help destroy themselves. Of COURSE they’re going to increase wealth and income disparity; of COURSE they’re going to only help pseudo-environmentalism only if and when they can SELL you something. And tell you if you don’t buy their new product, their new tax, AND go into massive debt-control to do it, you’re the Neanderthal enemy of mankind itself, and probably should be shot and/or imprisoned for the common good. No I’m not kidding, you can find the quotes. However, if they actually cared about the environment, they would just stop building, stop using, stop growing like a cancer, and use their trillion dollar fortunes to put the land to rest. They don’t. They mine and burn and sell, if that were any warning which side all these guys are on, from the picketers to the professors to the CEOs each taking their own private jets to Paris and Copenhagen.
And what gets lost that we could all get behind? That you could sell to the public without opposition, but in fact with universal support?
Energy Independence
Rainforests (like B.C. and Bavaria)
Sustainability
Green Jobs
Livable Cities
Renewables
Clean water and air
Healthy ChildrenNow why do you think all the same billionaires who are in a frenzy for Global Warming not only haven’t improved those action items, but in fact REVERSED them all consistently over the same timeframe? You know, with D.U. in Iraq, wars in Syria, 10,000 extra deaths in Greece, poison water in Flint and the much-Corex’ed encancered Gulf of Mexico, ever-diminishing health care, collapsing cities, and vanishing jobs. I mean, if AGW action was just a means to an end whereby these good things happened, then even with resistance to the Paris Accord, surely these billionaires would have improved conditions in Paris, in the French countryside, in Detroit and Biloxi, be planting trees in Syria and Africa and not clear-cutting them for new condos in Vancouver and Sydney? No?
Can’t that only be because they don’t want the action list above? Can’t that only be because their climate alarm is designed and used exclusively to increase their own power, wealth, and control? Because 30 years on, I’m kind of at a loss for what else it could be.
And that — notwithstanding all the papers in the 70’s and 80s wishing for exactly this crisis — is true whether AGW is real or not.
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Participant• ACT NOW IDIOTS (BBC) Sure, but do what? Has anyone defined that?
Sure they have: massively raise the mostly highly regressive taxes and murder a couple million of the world’s most poor. I mean, they say it right out in the open, and call it a win-win. Taxes to feed a government that has 2x, 4x, 10x the taxes they had 50 years ago, still blows them all, poisons and shoots everyone, releases pits full of toxins into rivers, disperses spent uranium, defends nuclear and Monsanto to the death, yet somehow still has no money for housing, health care, and roads. …But I’m sure if we give them more, just this time, they’ll use it to save the planet they’ve aggressively destroyed instead. Promise.
…And of course the other win, as there’s not a day goes by environmentalists, apparently knowing nothing of environment or food production, call for mass “depopulation,” i.e killing people. Not them, of course, the enlightened wealthy who drive a Tesla with lithium extracted from a foreign war and refined by a mountainside of coal, but all the dirty wrong-thinkers who live somewhere else, and being too poor to buy anything are somehow non-environmental. You know, the kind of people we don’t think about except with a lot of broad hand-waving.
Bigger government, more dead people: it’s like synergy all over again. Brought to you again by CO2 and Sach’s carbon credits.
Of course we could return to Yankee ways of long tradition, measurable proof, low usage, no waste, high economy, and green pastures, but who wants that?
Dr. D
ParticipantFrom today’s Kunstler:
“… even some of the best analytical minds of our time are missing the main thread of the story: that human affairs in the 21st century have entered a hazardous period of disorderly change largely due to that age-old pitfall of making ever-increasing investments in complexity with diminishing returns. That is exactly how societies collapse and that is where things stand in the Time of Trump. One might even theorize that Mr. Trump’s simplemindedness is a kind of virtue in the face of runaway complexity. His instinct, at least, is to repel it.”
Dr. D
Participant“Wyoming and Idaho, those retro redneck havens of braindead racism, industrial serfdom, and furious, moron machismo.”
Wow. Because this is not racist, hateful, or pejorative at all. I need not take the shocking step of replacing the names of some other ethnic group or location into this sentence, because it would shock and sicken us all. These are the words used before ethnic cleansings, to “de-people” and “other” them.
Unfortunately, America today is filled with such language, and such violent calls to hate are not only universally tolerated, such calls to murder are widely applauded as something “all the right-thinking people say,” …just as before every other historic ethnic cleansing and political mass-murder. If people back then didn’t also think it was a happy, laudable, justifiable final solution, they wouldn’t have participated so of COURSE such ethnic slurs, such violent oppression, such murder is widely spoken of as good.
The case of the bears is one of simple science and policy, but I don’t take my advice from hateful, intolerant fanatics, who instead of attacking bears, attack their fellow men.
I remember during the election the entire comment section of Slate (Slate!!) was filled with calls to kill everyone in Michigan and Wisconsin (Wisconsin!) for being backward, racist hillbillies, despite that like every other state, most people there live in cities. And the people calling for the indiscriminant and summary mass-murder of 15 million countrymen they’d never met, 2 Million of whom may be people of color, claimed it was love and a service to humanity because “those people” were “violent.” Excuse me? You may want to check the reception on your antenna. …Much as they dislike them, I don’t hear the macho morons of redneck havens calling for the summary execution of everyone in Massachusetts and California. It’s unthinkable because even moron rednecks from Montana and Wyoming have more basic humanity and common sense than that.
Not so coastal intellectuals who daily publish such calls to arms. And you wonder why, when there’s been a call to ethnically cleanse 20 states for the good of (blue) humanity, those states became alarmed enough to vote in even someone like DJT. What a wake up call!
Or not, because they won’t wake up, so those states are still trapped in a violent nightmare of hate. The tolerant, loving intellectuals, living in city apartments, having never seen a bison, touched a cow, or worked 18 hours harvesting price-suppressed food with a broken tractor in a county with no health care while the bank hovers over their head, are going to tell the country how wrong they are about things they’ve never seen, on the open and viable threat of murdering them en masse, or else.
Okay, trying to be slightly more positive, here is an article on reversing desertification: https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/reversing-desertification-with-livestock

How easy it is, and yet how complex. About how high levels of grazing animals are not only permissible, but REQUIRED for this to happen. But more especially, how all these moron redneck hillbilly shepherds TOLD science this, science didn’t listen, and thereby DESTROYED ecosystems worldwide they pretended to save in their intense, fatal, intellectual ignorance. Thereby killing not only the native peoples of all those lands, such as the Serengeti, but the native plants and wild animals too…Just like every other time in science’s history. Now having crashed the world bus and measurably REDUCED the food-growing areas worldwide in their IYI arrogance, then calling for the death and de-population of millions of humans, these are the shepherds and traditional farmers they’re now talking down to about the correct population of wolves, bears, and bison. The ones they call “ignorant rednecks” because unlike the PhDs who provably destroy everything they touch, they got out of the office and into the field to actually LOOK at things and see.For the love of God and all things holy, please learn something about food, ecosystems, and populations with your hands before lovingly murdering millions of your fellow men for their own good. Have we learned nothing? Can we learn something this time? It’s a level of ignorance and arrogance – and murder – that’s incomprehensible to me and millions like me. …And you wonder why they won’t give up their firearms.
Dr. D
ParticipantWe started the UBI with the safety net of welfare, food stamps, and Medicaid, particularly during Johnson’s the war on poverty. The poverty level hasn’t moved since 1965, but the economy stopped, 100 million are out of work, and we’re collapsing internally from lack of motivation, and externally from the national debt. Exactly as predicted.
Also as predicted, as much as 60% of the welfare costs are bureaucracies and federal employees who can’t be fired, so more than half the cost is wasted, highlighting how government is the worst possible delivery system for virtually everything. The system is also inhumanly Kafkaesque, with those who need rather starving than deal with it, while others scam it on multiple levels. You can see food stamp recipients drive Cadillac Escalades any day of the week in any grocery store in America.
To fix this problem of spirally cost and no benefit, by the government’s own charts, they are now going to UBI to lower the overhead costs and cut the red tape. Genius. Except that we already had this system where people get paid regardless of whether they work, with a highly centralized police state and immovable bureaucracy, with an enormous, expensive military, markets set by the state and central planners, and no economy. It was called the Soviet Union, and they coined the joke “We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us.”
If you’re short on history, this plan, like all similar plans, did not go well. After establishing state-ordained poverty, while carefully protecting state-ordained oligarchs in palatial style, and the awesome levels of death, despair, and oppression, the system collapsed entirely and got even worse for decades.
But I’m sure, somehow this one time, unlike every other of the hundred times it’s been tried, will be completely different. It won’t destroy work incentive and thereby collapse the economy, it won’t raise overhead so much there isn’t wealth enough to start new ideas and projects, it won’t create a ruthless black market and the power of organized crime and violence, it won’t massively shift the power to the state who can shut off your payments for erroneous reasons or no reason at all, and it won’t help protect the oligarchs who otherwise would have to raise their pay instead of tax-shift by governmental force.
Not this time. The other 99 groups of people, Paris, Russia, Venezuela, they were all just stupid, and we are oh-so much smarter.
Capitalism: the worst possible economic method, except for all the others. Please leave me alone and stop helping. We haven’t recovered from the last help you gave.
Dr. D
ParticipantThe boom times only exist depending on where you are.
In flyoverland, the dial’s barely moved, but the opioid-desperation gauge remains redlined…
That’s what the financialization blood-funnel was designed to do.
Dr. D
ParticipantThe Guardian, or its scientist, misses the obvious corollary to the egg-shaped world theory:
Yes, ice accruing at the poles over centuries or millennia crush the earth down, and its melting causes them to rise up again. The interesting thing is this: how likely is it that the entire earth can sink and crack without any volcanoes going off in the immediate area, or along fault lines leading to and from the poles? Maybe not so much?
In fact, unexpected, massive, and it seems quite recent volcanoes going off under Antarctica is a major cause to the ice sheet melting on one side. …While the opposite coast, away from the action, ice is actually growing.
The North Pole cannot exert the same pressure, being undersea, but the nearby land masses do have an effect. So, we kind of have a theory: Ice accruing with immeasurable slowness would not cause volcanoes, as the earth can adjust, and/or volcanoes that go off have a period of centuries, not years, while ice melting happens suddenly and causes a sudden outbreak of volcanoes. Does the geological record support this? Yes: it’s not too bad.
So why do I bring this up? Because the sudden attack of volcanoes, according to a regular, measurable timetable, tracked over hundreds or thousands of years, causes sudden global cooling due to sunlight. …And this is DESPITE that a single volcano can throw more CO2 than all of mankind does in a year. So the cooling begins, ice begins to accrue, the volcanoes go dormant, and the cycle is forgotten for another 400 or 1,000 years. All of which happens without man, without runaway processes, and is in the geological record going back 50,000 years. Inhale, exhale.

Does this fit the theory? Yes, far better than AGW does. One key, overwhelming, theory-breaking problem is that CO2 FOLLOWS global warming, it doesn’t lead it. That means CO2 is the RESULT of GW, not the cause. This is what put me on the science to begin with, because they said, as good scientists should, “That can’t be right, double and triple-check those ice cores.” They did, and the warming is first, CO2 FOLLOWS at the peak of warming. How?
Because these volcanoes go off at the peak of the warming, BECAUSE of the warming, put massive CO2 into the air, and because CO2 does NOT cause an adequate greenhouse effect, actually cause the cyclical cooling. 10, 50, 100 times, without any men living on earth. So relax. We certainly have a lot of problems, but this isn’t one of them. In fact, if the volcanoes go off, we’ll have the OPPOSITE problem, the one that caused the fall of Rome, as all successful empires and tech periods, Rome was quite warm, with grapes in Britain again.
“The sun gave forth its light without brightness,” wrote the Byzantine historian Procopius, “and it seemed exceedingly like the sun in eclipse, for the beams it shed were not clear.” In the wake of the cloud’s appearance, local climate cooled for more than a decade. Crops failed, and there was widespread famine.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/sixth-century-misery-tied-not-one-two-volcanic-eruptions-180955858/This led to the cooling cycle tapering off with a new warming peak in 1100 — where you see Vikings move around and farm in Greenland. Then it cooled like clockwork into 1600 when the Thames was so frozen they walked an elephant across it in the middle of an ice parade. 500 year cycle like clockwork, both warmer and colder than we believe possible. But hey, who believes the Smithsonian? Bunch of science-denying hacks.
Volcanoes: look into it. The article is right there, you just read it. Now put the pieces together.
Dr. D
ParticipantThe plan to hide the crimes, thefts, frauds, and murders by starting a shooting war among the peasants in the U.S., U.K., E.U., is going pretty well it seems. Later, like May, they will use the problems to roll out more oppression and fascism. Once that’s far enough along, and the middle class of Britain, Europe, and North America are mostly destroyed, they can trot out their pre-picked leader, stop making trouble behind the scenes, and Lo!, a magic master, a politician that fixes all out problems and makes the trains run on time. He’d probably even be Time Magazine’s “Man of the Year”.
…Just like Mussolini, Stalin, and Hitler were. Applause all around! We’re saved! Facebook seal of approval!
But to do that, you need to radically antagonize the regular people with outrageous spectacles both sides believe and neither can tolerate. Mark it on your calendar, because unless you bounce these guys out, CNN, Facebook, the Guardian, and their backers, Soros, Koch, Bush, that’s what’s scheduled to happen.
So don’t make too much of it. You and your countrymen are being played, and everybody with two dollars to spare is trying on purpose to make you feel rotten.
Dr. D
ParticipantMost enjoyable fellows, friends to all.
Of course that gentleman wiped out the hives, which would be worth $100? apiece? Less measurable, the loss to the fields that might have been pollinated, so although a year’s sentence seems excessive, suppose the overall loss adds up to $20,000 or more. That’s comparable to auto theft, a serious crime, so it’s not as far off as might first seem.
As with other non-growers, they overstate honeybees. Although vital, they are animals of the Old World, not seen in the Americas. Meaning that the Indian crops; corn, beans, potatoes, tomatoes, tobacco, squash, were never pollinated by honeybees, but by their cousins, wasps, flies, and mason bees. However, most of the fruiting trees are of the old world and prefer their correct, historic pollinator. So although a wild improvement, and would be mortally irresponsible to harm as a species, the planet is wide and strong and could fall back to so many levels.
If you cannot keep a hive and would like a hobby, try setting out mason bee nests.
https://www.gardensalive.com/product/mason-bee-house-with-replaceable-tubes?p=0165829&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI44S01frd3QIV0bXACh2BsQ8HEAYYBCABEgJzQvD_BwE
Dr. D
Participant“Emmanuel Macron has announced France will no longer accept “commercial agreements” with countries that do not “respect” the Paris Climate Accord during a fiery speech at the United Nations General Assembly. The French president called for the upholding of trade rules that “guarantee fair competition on equal footing”
Except it’s not a deal in the terms we generally think about it. They told China and India they didn’t have to do anything for their 2,800 Million people, accruing zero costs. All the CO2 and environmental mitigation they didn’t do would be picked up by the 300 Million in America, and each man would carry the costs of 7 Asians. So you see it’s really easy for China to sign an agreement whereby they promise nothing and destroy their competition.
But wait, there’s more! Aren’t trade wars and embargoes such as Macron is proposing bad? Or are they only bad when Trump does them? Besides, he’s at no risk since anything he wants from America, $82B worth of aircraft parts, NATO weapons, drugs, and petroleum, as he’s just going to sub-route U.S. goods through Ireland or Germany like a good hypocrite. …Or maybe he can buy them from China, a nation which has no responsibilities and the worst environmental record on earth, instead of the United States, which is better than most.
Yeah, that’ll show that environment! We’ll send money TO the people who have poisoned the world’s longest river from end to end and is responsible for the top rivers that dump ocean plastics, and AWAY from the country that has laws against these things and unlike most countries, actually dropped their CO2 emissions. Winning! The fish in the Yellow River and throughout the South China Sea will be very proud. Or they would be, if they weren’t already dead from China’s appalling environmental practices Macron and the Paris Accord joyfully support.
Don’t worry about wetlands. According to AGW, the entire world will soon be a wetland, getting rid of the people and replacing all that’s lost. That’s a GOOD thing, right? We should all be happy. I know I would be.
Dr. D
ParticipantGovernment: Helping! Helping so much! We need Moar! Moar helping!
If you merely left the refugees to their own devices, gave them nothing, but didn’t stop them with laws and guns, assuredly they would have built their own toilets and houses by now. They may be made of rocks and sand like Scottish Blackhouses, but every part would be better than present and less violent. They’d probably be growing half their food. But who wants that? Much better to spend the ADDITIONAL money on soldiers to STOP them from working.
Also, I’m not an expert but I have a hunch that just maybe, somewhere in Greece business hasn’t been that great and you could get a substantial discount on a port-a-potty. Yet somehow the millions of dollars spent though the U.N. and NGOs just can’t figure this out. Too hard! How will all those people die then and get in the papers to gin up sympathy with which we can kill MORE refugees and citizens by helping?
But that’s okay, I’ll just trust the experts and let them fix it all. I mean, when have they ever been wrong and/or support child trafficking and/or rape tourism for decades in Africa, Asia, and Haiti? They are Fueled by Love™ and have only our best interests in mind.
Dr. D
ParticipantThis is why we have slander and libel laws which should be dusted off and used vigorously.
You can’t just go saying things to ruin people without consequences. That goes for Ford as well as Infowars. That follows for breathless NYT allegations of chemical weapons, Kuwait incubators, and Gulf WMD’s as well as Julian Assange.
The reason we have this is to forestall just such madness as we see today. If you are correct, and your story is true, there is little risk (in the U.S. at least, where unlike Europe the underdog does not end up paying all fees) — even if you’re a reporter that’s wrong and you can point to the people quoted, the multiple sources, you are legally protected. But you can’t just walk around accusing everybody of everything, printing lies, tying up the legal system at no cost and increasing profit. Such lies put individuals and collectively the entire society at mortal risk and should be shunned, sued into oblivion, with the victors taking the spoils.
However, why do I bother? Like all the other laws: fraud, antitrust, declarations of war, libel has been on the books a hundred or a thousand years. If the people are immoral and do not wish to adhere to law, process, or sanity, no additional words will avail. They love the violence, the chaos, the abuse, and they hate the law and the logos with a burning passion otherwise the world would not look as it does.
Nevertheless, I will remind you of this thing. Fixing these problems are very, very easy. As easy as following the law, as easy as doing what you always did before, you and your father’s fathers who most painfully developed the solutions ages ago and wrote in a thousand books. And so long as people love evil and hate good, the government will be no help, nor is the media, and no new law will prevail, as we follow no laws now. The people like this, support this, advance this, wallow in this, because that is who they are. Can I help them from themselves?
If resting unproven, and possibly even if true, Ford has attacked all women who are legitimately harmed and won’t be believed, undermining 50 years of hard struggle. She has attacked the rule of law by taking all means to avoid due process, presumption of innocence, and speedy, fair trials. She has attacked another individual specifically. There are responsibilities that go with those things, and were I accusing another I would be aware of them. Things like: to file complaints in a timely manner, or at all. To not expect a bureaucracy to have investigated and/or solved your problem before you presented it to them in writing and started a process. To approach them only when I have necessary and provable details such as who, what, where, when, and how, and to otherwise not waste their time even were my injury real, as it so often is. A dozen crimes are committed against me daily and no one in the legal system cares, or will research, support, or give me the time of day. As an ordinary citizen you can be violently attacked and the police won’t show soon, if ever. They don’t investigate a thousand such reported crimes daily. Complaints ARE filed, often in Minnesota, WITH a date, location, reason, victim, and alleged abuser, WITH painfully acquired medical photos, lodged with a police report having two available witnesses, in a high-profile case published in papers nationwide, against powerful people and nothing is done about it.
The expectation of extraordinary measures not given to any other citizen in the whole United States is astounding, and the media’s support of this — the same media that regularly trashes Corey Feldman and protects Harvey Weinstein’s active, open, serial, violent rapes for decades, with his open, on-book payoffs to Cuomo for the privilege of raping New Yorkers — is no less astounding than that the people also support this. Openly, enthusiastically, willingly, supporting such breadth of double standard, and such vicious attacks on victims, or alternately supporting them instead without evidence or reason as it suits the momentary interests of the capricious, Jacobite mob.
Either extreme I can stand. Both at once as suits them? From the same people, resting only on whether today you are popular or not? #StarkRavingMadness, and they should beware what history says about leaping on the back of a tiger you can never dismount. This is the definition of why the Founding Fathers were terrified of Democracy, and contained it by every legal method available.
“Were I a common laugher, or did use/To stale with ordinary oaths my love
To every new protester, if you know/That I do fawn on men and hug them hard
And, after, scandal them, or if you know/That I profess myself in banqueting
To all the rout, then hold me dangerous.” — Julius Caesar, Act1 Sc2 -
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