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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle May 15 2020 #58820
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    “As COVID-19 deteriorates economic conditions, it could also result in funding cuts to major humanitarian organizations. Upwards of 300,000 people could die every day if this happens,”
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-world-food-programme-warns-at-least-30-million-people-could-die-of/
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    “How New York Turned Nursing Homes Into ‘Slaughter Houses’
    “Cuomo sounded indignant when a reporter asked if anyone had objected to New York’s policy of forcing nursing homes to admit recently discharged COVID-19 patients. “They don’t have the right to object…”

    “ten states where more than half of all state deaths have occurred in these “care homes”, and in many of them governors actually mandated that these homes take patients who were Covid+…That was an intentional act and meets, handily, the definition of manslaughter…”.
    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=239297

    “As we noted earlier this week, ~50% of deaths in Illinois have involved residents of nursing homes and other long-term care facilities, problems that Spain and the UK have also struggled with. And the spike in deaths in the state seen this week has largely been attributed to a surge in managed-care-home deaths as the state’s utter failure to protect those patients becomes more shockingly apparent.’

    Maybe we should have addressed the sick people and not the well people, the way we have for the last thousand years? A fraction of money put only on nursing homes would have dropped rates 50%. So that would be from 86k deaths or 0.02% to 0.005%, or from twice the flu to half the flu.

    It would go some way towards explaining why NY and IL have high rates: essentially on purpose, through criminal negligence.

    Elsewhere, NYT reports some half a million Manhattan are missing…in this case assumed to have flown all over NY, Long Island, and Florida to avoid it, by definition after the quarantine and lockdown. So again, why high rates in non-city New York State? Leak from the high rate city. (Why that 10x the norm, don’t know yet)

    There is a second effect of this, as seen back in October(?) when Cuomo said “We can’t tax the rich”. Why, Andrew? “Because god forbid they should leave.” Like NJ where ONE person leaving blew a multi-million dollar hole in the state budget. Apparently that just happened. I wouldn’t say this is a problem of socialism, that is, some animals being more equal, more taxed than others, but it certainly is a feature of that system that must be dealt with very carefully. Because no one under 50% pays any taxes, and the top 1% pay what, 50% of the taxes? You can look it up. So a single tax donkey leaving can move a substantial percentage of taxes. “Flat” taxes we had previously, tariffs, whatever, with smaller governments and social support being in the community and not the government did not have this weakness. So be aware. If they stay out for the Census, which seems likely, NY will also lose Congressmen. Unfortunately, as seen in CA and OR, when they move they take their terrible policies with them in Blue flight and then collapse the new states they move to. Why, I don’t know, because they should know best what policies they are fleeing, but that’s how it is. Rural people don’t appreciate it much either, as they destroy the culture of the new place in seconds by bringing money from the Fed-DC-Bubble areas. Thanks.

    But things are changing, and nobody listens to me. I just report it.

    I’m sure the German court-Bond thing is big, but don’t know enough Europe to get it.

    Thanks Doc, that an event is being used doesn’t mean it isn’t real. We just have to not be used and punkd by it, not fall for the narrative they try to corral us to. And balancing Rights and Responsibilities is always difficult. That’s why I tend to fall back on 1,000 years of legal history, a system that has seen and internalized a lot of knowledge.

    Education has been a scam for 20 years, only limitless free undefaultable money has allowed it. As seen by the graduates of Harvard, Yale, and Columbia who get everything wrong they can touch and meddle with. RussiaRussiaRussia. Don’t know why they’re so hard-headed as to not be discredited. We love experts, not results, I guess. But that will change right now. Probably the change being held back, fought tooth and nail even by violence will snapback and try to suddenly make up for lost time in order to meet the cycle dates. I don’t prefer it. It’s unwise to hold back the tide to have it rush in as a tsunami. Follow the time and tides and move with them very slowly so everything can adjust. But then how would we get rich on disaster capitalism?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 14 2020 #58756
    Dr. D
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    Did I just hear Dr. Birx on national T.V. saying that Covid cases were inflated 25%? Gee, who’s said that online before? I believe the science, not the science. I believe Dr. Birx, not Dr. Birx. Clearly Dr. Birx is a lying hack and we need a trusted statement from Dr. Birx instead.

    Oh and L.A. will NEVER reopen. Never. According to themselves and their standards are unmeetable. And of course that makes perfect sense when the rate is 0.006%, not quite back in shark-attack territory, but heading there. I’m sure that doing nothing ever again and completely stopping the world’s 5th largest economy won’t have any impact on poverty that might, I dunno, kill 10x more people than the disease? Ask East Germany and Ukraine all about how grand it is to not have an economy and how it doesn’t kill anyone. Oh and Socialism. Definitely the wonders and abundance and healthcare of Socialism.

    And speaking of, anybody want to tell me how NYC can have such a high death toll and L.A. have a low one? And how weeks after kids came back from FL beaches and NOLA parades, no Midwestern cities can seem to get this? Is this a disease or isn’t it? Why does it hit only Democratic states? Strange virus. Seems almost…unscientific.

    Since Cuomo sent all the Covid patients to contaminate fresh nursing homes: “Buried in NY Budget: Legal Shield for Nursing Homes Rife with Coronavirus.” –NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/nyregion/nursing-homes-coronavirus-new-york.html

    Another right-wing rag pushing corona conspiracy theories. Like the L.A. Times. Shameless!

    Oh and the same thing is true of vaccines. Special government indemnity for this industry (pretty sure that, and the special extrajudicial courts they use are illegal and unconstitutional) But vaccines are perfectly safe, and the pharmaceutical companies would never be more careless knowing they cannot possibly be sued. It’s so safe in fact that they pay out billions every year despite running their own industry-run kangaroo courts that have near-impossible standards of evidence. Good enough for me!

    Anyway, NYC 2.5% of the population but 25% of the CV deaths. Discuss? That’s an order of magnitude difference. We’re in week 20. Perhaps NYers are a different species, Homo Cellphonus, or the virus respects political borders and stays within the NY metro area? Maybe DeBlasio is the sole superspreader. Having a hard time justifying this. If you leave all metros, it drops off to almost nothing. Que paso?

    You don’t science by looking at confirmation, repeating what you already know. You make science by asking new questions, finding out the things you DON’T know, the new things that don’t fit and don’t make sense. That’s why we’re an #AntiLogos #AntiTruth culture. We reject all evidence that doesn’t fit our thesis. That’s literally the definition of #AntiScience. Science would keep (and check!) the evidence and change the theory.
    Anyone?

    “50% of people still leave their homes every day. Not a lockdown.”

    Um, because if they didn’t they would die? If they are in any of a hundred professions, nursing, trucking, manufacturing, food, repairs, telecommunications, and they didn’t work, OTHER people would die? Weld them in their houses for 40 days, otherwise, stop pretending. You say they should “Lock Down.” And how exactly will they eat, heat, and get medical care?

    What do they say: “Theory is a great place to live because everything works there”? Meanwhile, back in the real world, how do you plan to support all the food and medicine, when nobody leaves their house to provide food and medicine? With a legion of shoemaking elves? It’s crazy. “Well I TOLD that food to get in my fridge.”

    OBVIOUSLY people have to leave their houses. A LOT of them. I don’t know if it’s 50% but it couldn’t be lower than 30. …Which means it’s a sham and a joke that scientifically can only destroy the economy. The one we all use to EAT.

    Stopping that eating? That’s bad. It tends to kill people. But don’t worry, eating is only “Capitalism” it’s only the “Economy.” Money money money, bad bad bad. No eating? No more problems! Ask Uncle Joe. Hey, let’s not plant crops in California so we can stay home. It’s transparently crazy: dangerously, violently so.

    Ah, why do the good guys have to save you anyway? Why oh why do we go to work and not do as you ask so you can learn your lesson?

    “Matthew McConaughey is reminding people”

    I always get my medical advice from actors and children while we ban licensed doctors from Twitter. That’s just common sense.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 13 2020 #58753
    Dr. D
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    Why doesn’t Marquette, Michigan, (population 20,000), use the same procedures as Tokyo?
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquette,_Michigan#/media/File:Downtown_Marquette,_Michigan_in_Autumn_(43657514144).jpg (Will either picture load?)

    Why doesn’t Jackson, Wyoming (pop 10,000) use the same rules as NYC?

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    I don’t think anyone would need to answer that question because it’s self-evident. Because the number of deaths in Wyoming is 7. 0.001% One size does not fit all. But if a tree falls in Brooklyn, 3,000 counties need to burn down, and by God they’ll come make sure it does.

    I read an article that if the lockdown ended, people wouldn’t go out. So? Fine, let them. I’m not going to MAKE them leave their homes, MAKE them shop: it’s a free country. Please don’t. However, it’s the exact opposite when you PREVENT someone from going out, putting them under house arrest without charges or adjudication. That’s the opposite of freedom and 1,000 years of western law.

    If they want to wear masks, let them. Wear them for the rest of their life if they want, doesn’t bother me because I DON’T EXIST TO TELL OTHERS WHAT TO DO. However, they do not return the favor. It’s literally impossible to be left alone. The government is then fighting the people, thinking it knows better than its own paymaster and employer. What sense does it make for the servant to order the master? They can live just fine with me, however, they won’t return the favor and allow me to live. Am I kidding? They tracked down campers in the Outback and dragged surfers out of the ocean, miles from anyone, just to control them, just to not leave them alone. They lie awake nights worrying, somebody, somewhere isn’t obeying orders. Somebody isn’t under control. Somewhere somebody is thinking thoughts. And I must find them and MAKE them. Everyone must be part of my ego. Everyone must be EXACTLY like me. Be me or I’ll kill you. That’s diversity! That’s tolerance! That’s Love! (For Narcissists with Borderline Personality Disorder)

    And what if you’re wrong and the number is 25 million deaths short? What then? Because that already just happened.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 13 2020 #58752
    Dr. D
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    Boogaloo, the system is no better: instead of abandoning the group for the individual, they trample the individual in favor of the group. As we see with arrests and disappearances, lives crushed and made small. They’re entitled to their ways, doesn’t bother me at all, but it works no better and possibly worse. And CV medical is already universally Federally covered for a month or more, am I wrong?

    Hyperrational people are unreachable. Clearly. Counterintuitively, facts have no effect on the hyper-rational because they are being driven entirely by emotion. That is to say, they are completely ir-rational. If you’re provably irrational, are you insane? In a way. Although we all are less than sane to some degree or another. That’s why they have to go through the process on their own, and we have to let them. Only when they’ve destroyed everything for nothing will they question, and probably not then.

    So the U.N.’s 25 Million deaths by starvation because of the response? Will that do it? Wouldn’t count on it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 13 2020 #58712
    Dr. D
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    Here’s a good one: “”The Financial System Will Have To Be Reset”: How The World’s Most Powerful And Influential People See The World After The Pandemic”

    Huh. It’s not just idiots like me. As we’ve known for 49 years.

    “Fiscal Disaster: US April Deficit Hits Record $738BN as Government Spends $1 Trillion in One Month”

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    And all voluntary. But then, organic things always have a blow-off end. It’s not like we don’t know when the tides turn.

    In this case, the Public wave has reached an extreme: no production, tax base, or income, and infinite spending. That means the Private wave is starting as government go bankrupt due to the blowoff of Socialism and Totalitarianism. That may not go smoothly, and doesn’t happen all at once, but it begins, and we can see this in State bonds going bankrupt, and should they even get bailed out, the currency would fail. Regardless, the government and their assets are being discredited. As happens with great and predictable regularity in history, and we’re no exception.

    Nor any surprise. That’s why everything that’s happened has happened. Inflation, oil, Iraq, ’08, Derp v. Generals, all of it. Whitest white swan that could ever be.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 12 2020 #58710
    Dr. D
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    My thought on the tunnels was antiscience. They disinfect – seems a bit broad-brush at best – then get right back in the car filled with the virus. Good thinking! But it’s all about feels and crow’s foot magic talismans. Same day, baseball says they’ll open because they have drones to spray and disinfect the bleachers. Which are open the sun. That kills the virus in no time, for free. All for the feels, to sell the seats. #Antiscience. But no one notices, both because they’re entirely illogical and have no reason, but no doubt also because science has been saying utterly nonsensical things like this for decades without being called out and put in line by their own.

    What I’m saying about a fake, fantasy-theatre lockdown. Which we’ve known from the first week. So…virus essentially is airborne, lives 9-days on surfaces, and lives in most hosts without symptoms. Masks cut I dunno, 80%, but you can see the videos on the vapor getting through, so you’ll get a viral load in 15 minutes of talking to someone instead of 5 minutes. Wow! Hospitals, where they use actual science, say because of this, the masks are good for maybe a half-hour until saturated and must be dried, sterilized, reset. Gloves do nothing and may even help as viruses live better on the surfaces. There is a long, deeply annoying, glove-wasting protocol to use gloves effectively at all. So what have we here? As the article, near-total antiscience, or at least non-science.

    Given this, how did 66% of NYers get it? Because the virus follows science and not superstition, politics, and feels. You thought I was exaggerating, but they didn’t weld humans into their houses without food or contact for 40+ days. Those people, whether leaving the house or not, got food from somewhere. And that food came in cans, in chilled boxes of milk, stocked by a person touching thousands of things, carried to them by a person who touched hundreds of things, and that’s even if everyone was being careful as they claim. I can suppose 1/3 of the 2/3ds weren’t anywhere near as careful as they thought, removing their mask for a minute or whatever. So the virus was on everything. If you want to see, powder charcoal on your hands and see how it goes, where contacts are. A: Everywhere. Instantly.

    Totally predictable with an airborne cold-grade virus. Which is why it was irrational and unscientific to begin with. If you’re going to do this, you need to sell it and do actually it. If you half do-it, or even 80% do it, you have total failure and get the worst of both worlds: no virus slowdown AND a totally destroyed economy, eliminated Bill of Rights, and a Totalitarian state that has legal precedent and Fascistically supports all insider big businesses, and utterly destroys the middle class and all competition of small businesses. Which we have. As was totally predictable from the first week, since we knew it was near-aerosol, as transmissible as the flu, 40 days without symptoms – if ever — and 9 days on surfaces.

    So yes, I said it’s logical and obvious this wouldn’t work, and NY just proved it didn’t. And that’s without cheating, which everybody did. Then you have essentially no quarantine at all.

    But not to fear! It was never dangerous to begin with! Despite media which lies with every waking breath, the curve has flattened everywhere naturally and automatically whether there was a fantasy fake lockdown or not. The U.S. was trailing because it’s absolutely enormous, has 3,000 rural counties, and takes a lot of time to get everywhere. But it’s flattening, exactly as predicted, although their measures did nothing but print money and hand it to billionaires, as predicted. The numbers are still 0.01%, especially excluding whatever outlier-strangeness was happening in NYC, maybe Cuomo pointedly sending Covid people back to nursing homes for maximum death, I don’t know.

    But that’s it. It’s over. 0.01%. Panic! WeAllGonnaDie! GA has opened, no bounceback. SD never had one, despite the press. No outbreak, no bounceback. FL beaches packed: a week or two later, no bounceback.

    Their “Helping” didn’t help but it did destroy a whole bunch of other things, and killed poor people while the rich took their money, as always. Stop helping! But nobody ever learns. We did it again, the 100th time in a row in my lifetime, and next time we’ll not have learned, believe the liars, and beg for it again. And you wonder why the rich get richer.

    Apparently it’s voluntary. ‘Cause it’s just science. It followed science and not T.V. fantasies, because #Science is supposed to be #Reality, #Logos, but we are an #AntiLogos nations, where the only enemy is #Truth.

    How dedicated are we to this? For the 3rd or 4th time, China locks down again, while simultaneously claiming they have zero cases. So you locked down because of the outbreak you didn’t have? Yup! Everyone posts their numbers on worldmeter above, cheers, and claims China won and we should be like them, with police roundups, concentration camps and all. No, you silly persons: they’re L Y I N G. Just like we are, the WHO and CDC are, the Media, Cuomo, and everybody else who writes words are. The only enemy is #Truth. They’re LYING. Please say that to ourselves until we all internalize it and develop immunity to this garbage, unscience criminal thieving lies.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 12 2020 #58685
    Dr. D
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    Just as UK lockdown is universal double-plus good, 66% of NYers got the virus in their house under quarantine.
    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/05/social_distancing_is_snake_oil_not_science.html
    Trust the science. Except whenever it’s inconvenient, complicated, or gets in the way of power.

    “The economic devastation wrought by the pandemic could ultimately kill more people than the virus itself” –LA Times
    Well-known right-wing rag, pushing this craziness.
    https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-05-11/more-than-a-billion-people-escaped-poverty-in-the-last-20-years-the-coronavirus-could-erase-those-gains

    Oh wait: Of course their Brooklyn, Beverly Hills conclusion is that these physics only apply to other countries, because there are no poor people in East L.A. or central Pennsylvania who lost 50 jobs per death, and now their small businesses, and whole communities, have been destroyed. Nope! No poor people here! Because Flyoverland aren’t “people”. Only people in NYC, where 2/3s of the deaths are, matter. (Thanks to purposefully shipping COVID patients back to nursing homes. Cuomo is more popular than ever after that! Presidential material!)

    Riots Return to France’s No-Go Zones”

    They’re not following social distancing rules! It’s almost like they’re not following arson, assault, robbery, weapons, and murder rules either! But I said! I told them to follow the law!

    London’s Trains Packed with Commuters as PM Johnson Lifts ‘Stay Home’ Order”

    As with mass transit everywhere. Good thinking! Upper Michigan can’t go 4-wheeling in 500 miles for forest, but Staten Island is packed into the R train. Rules for thee and not for me! Hey, you can lose your father’s floor tile business in Marquette but we wouldn’t want to stop Wall Street from packing the lobby, amirite? Gotta have priorities: each NYer is worth 1,000 Flyovers. Each Wells Fargo is worth 1,000 George Bailey’s Building and Loan. Do I exaggerate? Where did the money go just an hour ago? Seems like to Fargo, who committed 10 million felonies in just *one* case, with fake fraudulent accounts. They’re in business, George Bailey is out. And the bailout money came FROM Bailey and Mr. Martini. You get what you incentivize. Incentivize packed trains and 10 million felonies, following the 100 million felonies in MERS. D—n you George Bailey!!! When will you stop competing with me? Can’t you just give up and let the last few towns become Pottersville, where only strip clubs, drug dispensaries, and liquor stores are open, where nobody has a job but prostitutes?!? Wait: Mission Accomplished.

    As Smith says: “The Fed’s fix is to lower the interest rate that banks and corporations pay to borrow money from the Fed while interest rates paid by the bottom 90% remain much higher.”

    However, he also says this is a suicide pact that will break the system: “All the Fed can do is fuel a revolt of the bottom 90% against their parasitic masters, the Fed, and the class the Fed has enriched with their free money for financiers and stock buybacks. It’s not that hard to forecast a populist revolt against the parasitic class that’s grown obscenely wealthy as a direct result of Fed policies while millions lose their jobs…”
    “bailing out Wall Street is the Fed’s only plan and only super-power. It’s the only reason the Fed exists: the parasitic class would wither away without the Fed’s constant distortions of what was once known as “the free market.””

    We don’t have a free market because then Potter would have to compete with Bailey. Because Potter is a mouth-breathing idiot son of an idiot son who went to Yale who loses money every year on every trade and requires bailouts to survive each week, we can’t have free markets, honest pricing, and real competition because he wouldn’t last 12 hours. That’s the whole point and reason to have power: to avoid the consequences of your own stupidity and irrational actions. That’s why the Fed exists and the SEC and CFTC have covered up every fraud and theft for 50 years. Remember Madoff had only one banker, whose board of directors oversaw every move. Everyone could see it and Harry Markopolis did. The SEC, CFTC, Fed, Geithner, IRS, DoJ, NY State Police and 50 state Attorney Generals covered it all up, right there in public on the front pages and every one of them is still employed. Except George Bailey and Mr. Martini’s Restaurant. Thanks to all the “help” they’ve been getting, Bedford Falls is closed and Potterville has prevailed.

    It takes a government to make this happen.

    But we have a solution: more Fed, more money, more government, more trust in authorities that lie and steal. But we told them not to! It’s almost like they’re breaking the law! The law nobody reads, follows or enforces. Worse than Paris rioters, and far more deadly.

    Have we pulled the plug on this system back in October, just before the world’s best-timed virus? I guess we’ll all find out.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 11 2020 #58649
    Dr. D
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    Yaneer still high as a kite. Nobody even in the quarantine is following quarantine. We have a fantasy-theater quarantine, where virtually everything is happening. You know, like airports where despite cancer x-rays and body-cavity searches, they stopped no bombs in all 20 years of the tests run. Even supposing we had a quarantine, which we don’t, in this case, 14 days (still!) when the time is known to be 40, AND it wouldn’t matter – even a little! – if it were, since most people end up non-symptomatic carriers. Also known. From the first weeks. Maybe they should just get a test instead? But no, Yaneer is running this debunked, non-scientific study, as is the CDC and discredited WHO. And I’m supposed to listen to him. Gah. I’d rather listen to ducks qvack than this nonsense.

    So what does Yaneer think he stopping except the economy and his feels?

    I stopped writing because I realized, like Yaneer, nobody cares about science and facts. It’s discouraging.
    Lockdowns work great except when people are involved either as the manager or the population. Then they cheat and it’s a fantasy, you know like Cuomo and Lightfoot, but also packed Wal-Mart and Home Depot while Pa’s Hardware has been run out of business, and although we can have 5,000 people a day in Target we can’t have an election. Never that.

    Back to now-discarded “science”: for instance, unless N.Z. stays locked down –forever–, they will immediately get it on the first flight. In direct opposition to every medical plan on earth, they now have no herd immunity and are therefore completely exposed. Congratulations, #Winning. I thought the plan was to get immunity, but now you’re trying to NOT get immunity? You want #AntiImmunity? For the vaccine we don’t have? WTF explain this to me.

    I realized, like Yaneer, nobody cares about science and facts. This isn’t even rocket-surgery, it’s literal headlines.

    Schumer Calls on VA Dep. To Explain Use of HCQ (AP)”

    So we’ve had the cure (treatment) since the 2005 CDC but we’re required to let people die? So many questions: what pandemic if we have the cure? Would Captain Stupidhead like to say this now, or only after the war with China? Does somebody want to ask in the Presser about this report they published 15 years ago? Oh, really? Why is that the only question that cannot be asked? If not, somebody want to ask why nobody wears a mask, stays apart or looks concerned in the White House? Does that have something to do with the open mic that said the numbers are super-low and they have a cure? And now front page they “got it” in the White House? Why would I care when nobody dies?

    Nope. Never ask. Panic. All going to die. Forever. Fingers, made for pointing. Agitation, unrest, for anything but asking questions and reading. Anything but using their own consensus facts and their obvious implications.

    “others issued warnings that the drug can cause severe health impacts if taken in an unsupervised capacity,”

    Huh. And here it was the doctors prescribing it under their express, exclusive, expert care. So why did you waste your breath writing that sentence? ALL prescription drug are the same, exactly like this one, unless you got child labor to write this article who was unaware of that. And hey, why don’t these doctors believe Fauci, the media, the CDC, the WHO, and the pharmaceutical companies? Is it because they’re always wrong and always lying and have been caught lying multiple times this time too?

    zinc sulfate, a dietary supplement, to hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin may benefit patients”

    Point. As known the first week. But go ahead and voluntarily kill everyone and say “Oops” if you want, then call your intentional, criminal malpractice an epidemic. Clearly everyone will believe you, and they will kill everyone around them with their good intentions.

    “This is no fault of American business, this is no fault of American workers, this is a result of a virus,”

    No, it is the fault of the GOVERNMENT, who made a VOLUNTARY decision. Agree or disagree, but take responsibility for it, the one thing government can never do. YOU did this, NOT the virus.

    Why wouldn’t Derp State/Maduro hire the mercenary themselves just to capture them? They get all their money and hardware back when they capture them. The best opposition you can buy. My first thought since it makes no sense and they’d have to dig pretty deep to find someone this stupid and credible to even attempt it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 9 2020 #58559
    Dr. D
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 9 2020 #58558
    Dr. D
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    Kay: Not mentioned but implied, changing the goalposts. The reason for the lockdown was to allow hospital services not to be overwhelmed. That is, to allow herd immunity slowly. Longer, more painful, perhaps, but slowly. That is to say, everyone will get it.

    So if he doesn’t open up, how will everybody get it? If he doesn’t open up, will we stay in martial law and house arrest for the rest of human creation? What’s the exit plan?

    This is aside from quite strong evidence we have a cure in many nations that refuses to be used here. If we have had a cure (since 2005), why do we have a lockdown? In fact, why no arrests? Because they’re lying upon lying upon lying, so we are making pretzel logic admitting one lie while fighting another. Don’t concede any lies.

    So, nice and emotional scaring sounding: What “catastrophic effects”? What “epidemiological boom and bust”? How could that possibly be “endless”? Endless? Like until homo sapiens evolve into a new species? What you’re saying is 100% anti-science, all emotion, while hiding under the color of science. That is, it’s propaganda to promote your personal beliefs. Please don’t. This is how science is discredited and dies. Because of allowing people like this.

    UK To Place All Incoming Travelers Under 14-Day Quarantine (R.)”

    Speaking of fake, illusionary non-lockdowns worldwide. 4 months late. And nobody’s enforcing it. Not really. They can take a trip with Chris Cuomo and Mayor Lightfoot, perhaps to a parade recommended by DeBlasio and Pelosi.

    “Data Reveals A Complex Reality (DW) “

    Pretty sure as above, the data isn’t complex at all. It’s just people lying. Doctors and coroners are in good faith, but they’re not cynical, suspicious people like I am. Then the CDC and NHS takes the good faith numbers and headlines the drama while footnoting the facts. As it’s aggregated, no one can tell, and they won’t release the details. It’s a con game, where you fabricate confidence in a person or organization, then betray it. As if we didn’t know as far back as Viet Nam’s “We’re winning the war” numbers.

    How far off is the data? Hard to tell, but since they’re calling it the “Miracle Cure” in several nations because nobody’s dying of heart disease and influenza now, it’s probably relevant. It seems to have stopped instantly on reaching the long-term average number of daily deaths, which is pretty peculiar, and politicians seem to have anticipated this, which is strange. At the same time it clearly appears to be relevant, as we can show a peppering of under 70, especially health care workers who would not succumb to a seasonal flu.

    In a nation where every member lies every day as a matter of course and truth tellers are relentlessly persecuted and jailed, who can tell anything?

    “The Bailout Miscalculation That Could Crash the Economy (Taibbi)”

    This is very lousy, as if you miss payments – and the government is not only always lying, screws up everything it touches, but ALSO sides against citizens 100% of the time – then the missed payment CAN involve speeding up instant foreclosure and even demand 3 months back pay in cash. Even though the delay was planned, signed, and in good faith. Hey! Is that exactly like HAMP? That got a few hundred thousand people who could have been alright foreclosed on and their houses stolen by Mozillo and Fargo? Yeah…you done trusted the government. Nice knowing you. But you trust them when they say no human to human transmission and come visit my parade.

    But there’s a solution! More government! They’re still 100% employed at 100% pay with half the tax base. Isn’t that sort of like your taxes doubled? Nevermind. We can fix that too! With more government! Maybe we can quadruple the government and have no economy at all! That’s always worked in Cuba, Russia and East Germany. No bad effects at all.

    “My first reaction is: fewer cars!”

    My first reaction is, “Omg, I’m going to get a car so cheap it’s amazing, what car would I like?” Kind of the opposite of when Obama crushed all the cars and hammered the poor by making the cheapest used car prices double. Down at the bottom that was bad indeed and lasted years.

    Our utter incompetence actually helps us,”

    I think this may be in error. I believe we found that the FBI asked it to be closed, and these guys actively stopped it and refused to close just so this could have some banner to proceed. No incompetence, malfeasance, as usual. Every time a crime is committed, it’s always just an “accident” that nobody meant, like 100,000 times in a row, all in the same direction. But why talk? Nobody can be discredited. Nobody goes to jail. And as everybody is a criminal and liar, nothing can get done, nothing works.

    Obama will be implicated.

    I fear this is unavoidable. It 100% had to be in the daily security briefing. Daily. No one would dare otherwise. That’s aside from Strzok saying it was. So we wiretap and arrest opposition candidates now? While the people cheer? Some democracy. As it has been since Kennedy.

    Yaneer Bar-Yam is still high as a kite. The virus is “gone”. Gone as in extinct from Planet Earth? Can you please tell me what science says that is possible at all? No humans talk to any other humans anymore? They don’t go to stores and trade for food? And re-basing all the charts so they optically look similar also isn’t science. It’s propaganda. Sweden, Brazil, any non-U.S. nation is missing. The U.S. locked down earliest, today’s article showed Australia took no political risk because the U.S. already had, and they’d just point to us as is usually the case. We take the risk, they take the coat tails. The cases were all in NYC which did lock down. His case is garbage, emotionally-fabricated nonsense.

    Oh wait: the charts are Haaavard. Explains all. Here’s an expert modeler/programmer on Ferguson:

    I have Reviewed Ferguson’s Code – It’s a Joke

    First, it’s not a model. It’s a cartoon, it’s 1/10th the size of any normal model. Second, it adds so much randomness that if you run it several times, you’ll literally get any result you wish. Then you pick the one you want, big, small, whatever, and say “the model says!” “Experts agree!” But go ahead and trust them when they’ve been 100% wrong for half my life now and no model they’ve run has been correct since I don’t remember when.

    Oh, and they were totally 100% dead-wrong this time too? We’re 25M deaths short? Nah: trust them and their models, it’s a coincidence Harvard — which got this totally, catastrophically wrong — is just putting out data that politically attacks people they don’t like, while leaving out all other data. Totally normal and accepted. Just ask East Anglia.

    in reply to: Weaponizing the Dollar #58531
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Yes, the word “Want” is much bigger than it seems. WHO wants? Wants what? Who benefits? There are some who are benefiting right now — like the military — who want to no longer benefit right now and have other plans. There are others who benefit and don’t want to give it up. They’re fighting. Then there are those who aren’t benefiting, like the America people, who half want and half don’t want it to continue. There are U.S. businesses, half benefit (MNCs) and half who don’t (domestic production) and they disagree in the Halls of K Street.

    These things matter, a lot. We don’t have a “government”, a “people” a “corporations”, we have cloudy power-blocs which each follow their own interests. That’s why in policies it’s most important who policies are benefiting, and who pays the cost. Since Pappa Bush set it and Clinton signed it, it’s been the working people paying the cost and the Government and MNCs benefiting, by design, by definition. Unions are near-dead, nation is destroyed. Corporations multiples larger than ever, now more pre-eminent than whole nations, like Google vs Ireland. Complex power blocs with changing heads, allying and conflicting.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 7 2020 #58472
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Negative rates. BTC $10,000, doubled in 2 months. Gold $1,720.

    So if you have negative rates, maybe you should leave the currency?

    And if you leave the currency, doesn’t that make it not the “Reserve Currency” anymore?

    If the Reserve currency fails, inflates away, is that a default?

    in reply to: Weaponizing the Dollar #58465
    Dr. D
    Participant

    I don’t understand. The U.S. cannot pay its debt. It never could since 1979. No nation ever has, as Adam Smith wrote in 1775. Therefore: it will default and always planned to.

    So what do you mean China will sell their Treasuries. THEY ALREADY HAVE. They sold them all into short-durations, and they sold all their FHA’s. That’s what Operation Twist and da Boyz were. Their “nuclear option” already had no effect. Why? Since Europe stinks and everybody else is tiny, there’s literally no where else to go. It’s our currency and your problem.

    Second, their Treasuries are a consequence of our trade deficit. But without an economy, we don’t have one. All year production was flying out of China to SE Asia, crippling China. China has equal parts trade Europe and America. However, America has trade worldwide. So if China vanishes we take a 20% hit and China takes a 50% hit. No prizes for who will survive better, especially when America will be elated to have jobs. But now that’s even less true. We may have no virtually deficit with China at all, or won’t shortly.

    China can’t trigger a crash because they already tried it and didn’t. “It would have almost no impact on U.S. interest rates.” The U.S. means to default on China, or not on China, but everyone, using China and Wuhan as an excuse. Why? Because we always planned to, and the REPO bailouts showed they already hit the detonator. I said so in October. It’s over. We were going to re-set. And then the oil, the basis of the Petrodollar swing $60 a day, into -$40 negative territory? What do you guys need, a signed invitation and a glossy magazine cover? They re-set. That’s a “default” to us commoners. No Petro, no USD, no T-bonds, no debt. No debt = no problems. Shiny clean slate to rebuild on, only some local transition problems, just like ’74. Hey, what if you had a national emergency war powers during that time? Wouldn’t that be cool?

    The U.S. doesn’t WANT the reserve currency. It doesn’t WANT Triffin’s Paradox. The reserve currency destroys the host nation 100% of the time in history. But once you’re in, as Bretton Woods and Viet Nam, the only way out is to DESTROY THE CURRENCY. Which will happen 49 years from its start. That means the only logical thing is to PRINT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN AND SPEND IT. Which is what all government of both parties have done for 49 years.

    Here’s the article they wrote on it when they started in 1969:
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/41797250?seq=1
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01322909

    So I disagree. The whole POINT of having the Dollar was to DEFAULT on it. Even if it wasn’t, they would default in any case because a) the debt cannot be paid and anyway b) the runaway debt compounding cannot be stopped.

    Will that stop the banker power? Who cares? Trump hates those guys anyway, and the military can’t tolerate the nation being hollowed out by Triffin any more than it is.

    No one’s making any choices, math is running the show. But I can demonstrate they’ve known this for decades and planned for it long before needing to manufacture an excuse for the inevitable.

    Null
    https://external-preview.redd.it/2MPxvpzygIS6N41AWHQgHTVFKdmgtNTM0vVVpMNxwJo.jpg?auto=webp&s=2c5a43aa79d5294d7cc309383d83e1329b70abed

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 7 2020 #58463
    Dr. D
    Participant

    What does this chart of all British mortality say?

    UK

    COVID 19 is a Statistical Nonsense

    Very. Comprehensive. Even more telling than the similar data-rigging by the CDC.

    NY Times lying. Again. Every Day:

    “A Northwestern University history professor called into question the accuracy of a New York Times Magazine essay that won a Pulitzer Prize.
    “The actual truth of American history isn’t the narrative that the Times cares to report,” Gainor added.”

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=14822

    CBS, who ran fake footage of Italian hospitals – twice! – busted for lying about Covid testing.

    But I’m sure they tell the truth about CDC and British mortality rates.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/Provisional-Death-Counts-COVID-19-Pneumonia-and-Influenza.pdf

    Column 5. No additional deaths. In fact, yearly deaths are 2% under average. Wow, that matches Britain! Could it be the media is…dare I say…lying? Shock! WMD, RussiaRussiaRussia. Nah, we always believe known liars. No one can be discredited. Not even when they print $6T for themselves while buying off the people for a mere $1,200, and killing maybe half a million.

    Well, it’s Thursday then.

    “Washington… Governor Jay Inslee has extended the lockdown into the end of May despite that fact that it peaked April 3rd, and less than 900 people died in that state. So what is going on?
    …the population of Washington State is 7.615 million. That means that less than 0.002% of the population was ever infected. You do not shut down the economy for this low infection rate. This is clearly a fraud upon the people”

    I thought this was virulent and there is a major U.S. city in Washington State. The virus seems to respect borders whenever it’s politically convenient for it. Strange virus! Almost like the data is corrupt.

    The bill requires a report on 38 institutions.”

    Rogue’s gallery of the Derp State. Cutting them off, just like drug running and human trafficking. Yes, add the OPCW, defund and arrest them.

    Found it:
    “Fauci Knew Since 2005 that the Malaria Drug Can Even Cure Coronaviruses”

    ““We report, however, that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage.”

    Fauci Knew since 2005 that the Malaria Drug Can even Cure Coronaviruses & Conflicts of Interest Abound

    “’Apocalyptic’: Hospitals are losing millions treating coronavirus and the results could be dire”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/treating-coronavirus-draining-hospital-coffers-millions-threatening-resources-n1201541

    No food, bankrupt (rural) hospitals close. Free money to the top, consolidation, centralization, and concentration of power via the most coincidentally-timed virus ever. That should be good to kill an additional 400k over time. Was 30,000 poor people a year not enough?

    Gee, I wonder why the people seem to have stopped the lockdown and are ignoring it?

    I don’t want a safe space. Stop helping before you kill two million instead of one. Leave me the — alone.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 6 2020 #58398
    Dr. D
    Participant

    This is how serious experts are taking it:

    “Scientist Whose Doomsday Models Sparked Global Lockdown Resigns After Breaking Quarantine To Bang Married Lover”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/health/scientist-whose-doomsday-models-prompted-worldwide-lockdown-broke-quarantine-bang-married

    Along with no masks in the White House, open mic leaks that Covid is a zero, no masks in the Governorships or Media Heads, forays to the hair salons, flights to Florida, non-quarantine trips with the family to Long Island to berate bicyclists, trips to the Brooklyn gym and park, 100,000 people a week to Heathrow. While you’re locked in your 800-foot Harlem apartment with 3 kids, experts in the know taking it seriously indeed. [Stern face]

    Well, we were warned when that article from The Guardian breathlessly questioned what all the London smart set would do when they couldn’t go out to trendy bars and cheat on their husbands. They said it was Handmaid’s Tale stuff. Practically Amish. Honestly, family values, brrrrr, it really is the end of the world. Their answer: You don’t! It’s rules for the and not for me like any psychopath.

    Another article on the known, certain deaths of economy and unemployment:
    “The opponents of the lockdowns, on the other hand, only wish to allow people to exercise their freedom. The burden of proof lies on those who wish to use police powers to coerce others.”
    https://mises.org/wire/unemployment-kills-longer-lockdowns-last-worse-it-will-get

    I think that’s a pretty well-established and well-supported position among humans.

    ” “Where’s The Beef?” – Not on the Horizon!” –Food shortages

    “It is the goal of every official narrative to generate this type of herd mentality, not in order to deceive or dupe the public, but, rather, to confuse and terrorize them to the point where they revert to their primal instincts, and are being driven purely by existential fear, and facts and truth no longer matter. Once an official narrative reaches this point, it is unassailable by facts and reason. It no longer needs facts to justify it. It justifies itself with its own existence. Reason cannot penetrate it. Arguing with its adherents is pointless. They know it is irrational. They simply do not care.

    We are reaching this point with the coronavirus narrative.

    Despite the fact that what we are dealing with is a virus that, yes, is clearly deadly to the old and those with medical conditions, but that is just as clearly not a deadly threat to the majority of the human species, … Many appear to believe that this virus is some sort of Alien-Terrorist Death Flu (or weaponized Virus of Mass Destruction) that will kill you the second you breathe it in.

    The Internet has become an Orwellian chorus of shrieking, sanctimonious voices bullying everyone into conformity with charts, graphs, and desperate guilt-trips, few of which have much connection to reality.
    Corporations and governments are censoring dissent. We’re approaching a level of manufactured mass hysteria and herd mentality that not even Goebbels could have imagined.”

    Virus of Mass Destruction

    And I might add, will have/just had the same result. So…meanwhile, the experts in charge are NOT wearing masks, NOT doing the slightest thing that shows they’re personally concerned. So…they don’t believe it but want YOU to believe it? Conclusions? Discuss?

    The Bare Necessities: Federal Court Rules That Strip Clubs Are Entitled To Pandemic Loans”

    In a nod to Guardian reporters, strip clubs are also open for business, as in Oregon. Meanwhile churches are closed and being arrested. Even if they congregate inside their cars. Central Park is packed. Jews are being arrested. Does this ring a bell with anyone?

    All while they’re shoulder to shoulder in Walmart and Pa’s Hardware is closed. People are alone on the beach being arrested by 5 cops, none wearing masks. Does this tell you anything? Connect?

    https://www.clivemaund.com/article.php?id=5375

    Anyway, speaking of charts and data that have no effect, death rate is 0.01%. The increase in national cases is AN INCREASE IN TESTING, a chart that was presented only yesterday, but instantly forgotten because it doesn’t encourage mindless panic and totalitarianism. The U.S. “Worst in the world” has in short order testing 2x more people than the next largest tester, Germany. More testing = more cases. But you notice more testing does not equal more deaths. It equals LESS deaths, because as we discover everybody already had it, we discover we’re already at peak mortality. Thanks, NY Times, you’re a liar. Again. And again and again. Weapons of Mass Destruction and ties to Al-Qaeda.
    Goog
    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data
    And as that would show your lockdown was useless and in fact is about to kill more people than the virus, we cannot allow that think to be thought. It must always be more deaths, more fear, more bad, never good. The minute we see the death rate is very, very, VERY low – as known for 4 months — we turn our eyes away. Surely somebody is dying somewhere! Of Murder Hornets! Tigers? Something.

    “Now-Dominant Strain of Coronavirus Could Be More Contagious than Original (LAT) “

    Although the last one wasn’t dangerous, we promise this one is. Wait, more contagious? Why would I care when it doesn’t kill anyone? Why? Don’t ask why. Fear! We’reAllGonnaDiiiiieeee!!! We can’t stop until we win the War on Death™. Oh, and the mail-in election. That too of course.

    “Goat and Pawpaw ‘Test Positive’ for COVID19 in Tanzania (AlJ)”

    Speaking of facts and evidence, do you think the tests might be faulty? Maybe that’s why Pelosi wanted “testing”? That’s why the CDC tests were faulty and sent back TWICE, all known for months, now we pretend it never happened, we never heard that, all the tests are good, and we just needed to give them says Taleb, except we didn’t have them and they’re bad, will only encourage fear and death. Yay! Data inaccuracy! Then we do schmart math on random data!

    How am I supposed to work in this environment? Can someone please be discredited now?

    Well, they have. No one’s following the quarantine anymore. No one cares. No one respects you. No one cares about your laws and rules. Congratulations.

    “Most Americans Have Serious Doubts About the Official COVID Death Count: Axios-Ipsos Poll”

    I wonder why. 24 million dead by June! Killer bees. Ozone holes. Polar bears. WMDs. RussiaRussiaRussia.

    “Pennsylvania Woman Jailed for Refusing to Quarantine after Positive Test (Hill)”

    Thankfully, we can just look at the legal and personal effects of this, since everybody already has it and nobody dies. Median age of mortality? Again? 81. Omg, how many old people are there that that’s the MEDIAN? Do you have an apartment block of 90-year-olds somewhere? I thought all young people died of strokes and blood clots with it with 8 blood transfusions while they Tik-Tok dance. So: go forth to your court cases. Also, great quarantine when you intentionally send the Covid person into jail with the jailers. And nice use of public resources at $50,000/year to send non-violents in and release violent offenders, out to my house.

    Are we in upside-down #OppositeLand yet?

    “Did The Mueller Team Violate Brady and Flynn Orders? (Turley)”

    This has been “Standard practice” since J. Edgar Hoover. That was the whole POINT of having an FBI. I have no idea what their supposed “reputation” is built on. There’s at least one high-level public railroading or cover up every year of my life. This one’s going well. No one arrested, no one discredited. Never, amen. “Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program poses a clear threat to our national security,” –FBI Director Mueller 2003, before the boy scout was hired for as Special Counsel for having the highest credibility in government.

    Because of my great respect for Taleb, I’m not going to speak of discrediting him, but not only is EVT famous worldwide for never working – 100 year floods every 5 years, 6-sigma events happen every 20 years and not 200,000 years ago when Neanderthals roamed. Yes, I mean literally. There were a dozen? Score? 100? in ’08, and that was only the last event after ’01, LTCM, 1987, the 70’s, 1941, 1929, and 1909. They STILL claim – with a straight face – that they can do the maths and the rest of us are stupid amateurs.

    No, we know grade-school algebra and that’s STILL better than you quants. I only need to know 200,000 is different than 20. I can do it with a crayon.

    But the Fat-Tail pandemic risk he speaks of is identical. So we’ve had hundreds, thousands of pandemics over history. How many were worth extreme measures or the attempted extreme measures worked? Let’s see: almost never are they needed. 50 years? 100 years? We have maybe 10 examples in 2,000 years that it was both appropriate and effective. Because people being people – also a well-known force — it’s never effective. “But we told them.” Uh-huh. Stalin wasn’t able to get human compliance when he created 12 times zones of gulags, but you’re going to stop it with the common cold. Gotcha.

    So if your data set has no examples since Antonine (165AD), why are you yanking my chain and claiming any legitimacy for worldwide lockdowns now? You’re a joke.

    Okay. So I’m the dummy, having no more common sense than any American dropout. Who was right? Korea, lockdowns worked. Singapore, working lockdown failed. Japan, worked whether lockdown or not. Africa, no lockdown, no news. Sweden, non-lockdown worked. South Dakota, non-lockdown worked. NYC, lockdown seems to have failed. UK, lockdown was pointless: data shows peak before lockdown. Also not locked down. Heathrow is 15 thousand people a day, no scanning. So fake, pretend non-lockdown vs honest admitted non-lockdown? What do your numbers mean? You know, before you do a bunch of math on them. Your data is zero. You’re 25 million deaths short. Random. Wrong. As we see in the media daily.

    But you DEFINITELY shut down the worldwide economy and DEFINITELY killed some 450,000 poorest Americans via poverty and delayed medical care. Was it worth it?

    What does the developing hindsight data tell you then? Your lockdown was a joke: even now the numbers are barely above the flu. To do it fast enough would mean a false alarm shutting down the world and throwing mankind into a depression every third year. It didn’t work even where done properly – and we had pretty good buy-in this year. Humans worldwide also won’t do it properly even when attempted, as any idiot could tell you, and I did. If every doctor, nurse, patient, trucker, farmer, food worker, hardware store, car shop and Walmart employee is at work, you’re not “shut down”. You’re in a fake TV quarantine. It’s the Truman Show. And it had high costs and mixed, essentially random results. All national curves were the same. All this was perfectly predictable if you use grade-school models and not fancy, quant, HFT models.

    Who was right? The dumb people. Again. Or as we call them in a Republic: “The People.” As in “E Pluribus Unum”. Smarter than the politicians. Smarter than the experts. Constantly. And constantly belittled, berated, and jailed for it. This time’s no different. Always trust the abusers, the authorities, the wrong. Never support the people and their right to be left alone. “The burden of proof lies on those who wish to use police powers to coerce others.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisdom_of_the_crowd

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 6 2020 #58397
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Didn’t we just read that Fauci signed off on the HCQ study back in SARS that it was both a therapeutic and prophylactic? That is, HCQ could in once sense BE the vaccine. He’s also in tight with the Pharma and especially Gates and Co. …Because when we need medical advice we always ban ER doctors and listen to incompetent programmers instead.

    But nobody knows nothing. No one can be discredited. No one goes to jail.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 5 2020 #58356
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Beef

    “One in five Wendy’s is out of beef, analyst says”
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/business/wendys-beef-shortage/index.html

    But we don’t need to work! We’ll print money!

    Happy yet?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 5 2020 #58355
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Elvis Was King, Ike Was President, & 116,000 Americans Died In A Pandemic”

    Elvis Was King, Ike Was President, and 116,000 Americans Died in a Pandemic

    The population was 157M HALF of today.

    No one noticed. Had no effect.

    “Shut it all down, Mr. President. Shut all that food down.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 5 2020 #58351
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “President Donald Trump now knows the price of the haunting bargain required to reopen the country — tens of thousands more lives in a pandemic that is getting worse not better.”

    No, he is making a bargain of whether MORE people will die of a lockdown or if more will die in an economy that stops making food. Since 1 in 10,000 die of the disease but 100% die of no food, no prize for guessing which is more dangerous.

    “The total was more than double the same organization’s estimate last month.”

    You mean the estimates and the organization that’s been totally, catastrophically wrong since Day 1, is 25 million deaths short, and was also wrong about the last 10 pandemics? Yeah, let’s listen to them. Still waiting to die of AIDS and the level 6 Ebola pandemic.

    A new forecast projects nearly 135,000 deaths … mainly due to reopening measures.”

    Okay let me be an expert forecaster here using NIH’s own numbers. 30M unemployed, moved from 4% official to 15% estimated. 40k die prematurely per 1%. 11% x 20k = 440,000 killed from the voluntary shutdown. That’s not including food shortages and lack of preventative medical care in empty hospitals. So why are my official, NIH numbers silly, when their IHME numbers are smart? Wouldn’t both be true and need to be weighed? Experts tend to be narrowly focused while we need systems analysis.

    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says the country will not have open borders with the rest of the world for “a long time to come”.

    I thought this was hateful and racist. In fact we should have no borders in Europe or indeed the whole planet. What happened? Where are your principles?

    “France’s First Known COVID19 Case ‘Was in December’ (BBC)”

    Science. Knowing less every day.

    “US Treasury Seeks to Borrow a Record $3 Trillion this Quarter (CNBC)”

    “Borrow”? From whom? Since the Fed and Treasury have merged, isn’t this no longer “borrowed”, i.e. from selling Treasuries to China, but in fact entirely “printed” and monetized by the Fed? It’s easy to tell since Europe, China, Japan have no $3T trade deficit or spare cash from a hot economy to buy anything.

    This will come into play later on. The core currency dies last.

    Which leads to the question: while we’re all distracted with conflicting, emotional non-stories, what events are happening out there that we’re not hearing about? What are they getting away with while keeping us in a dizzy spin of pure nonsense? Well, $3T went to insiders just now to buy assets crippled by the lockdown they created.

    The companies plan to allow only public health authorities to use the technology.

    Well, let’s see: they lied and let all info out there to everyone in the Cambridge Analytics scandal, Zoom has no security at all, a 5-year-old can get in, and all of them have had “hacks” pretty much constantly where outsiders steal all your data which can never be made private again. So why is letting them do any of this not a joke and a hazard again?

    But don’t worry: they can never be discredited. There will never be consequences to any action, ever again. Amen. They’ll abuse you every day, remain experts, and everyone will come back for more.

    Besides, tons of apps – WalMart and Susan Komen for example – already track your GPS every 15 minutes and sell it to everyone. Surprise! No surprise! Why do they sell it? Clearly because whoever buys it can take money from you at your expense to make it worth their while. That is: You’re the Product, not the consumer. You’re the cow, not the farmer.

    what’s the use of discussing vaccination certificates when there’s no vaccine?”

    Because they created the vaccine before releasing the virus? Because the vaccine doesn’t need to work or could maim tens of thousands by ‘accident’ in the rush, but it would just be “aw, shucks, whooda knowd” like usual? Just spitballing here.

    Since we’re almost at herd immunity already, and will be by the time they get organized, what benefit would a passport have? So they’re saying we can’t have herd immunity to Covid? Then what’s the vaccine? They’re really, really bad at math and don’t have any sense of time but do have a great sense of power and profit? (A: Yes) They also don’t understand computers or humans. A) the passport will break, people will hack and change them for amusement like the no-fly list, the data will get errors that mean you can’t go anywhere or do anything: looking at you, Julian. B) Humans will immediately forge them, borrow, rent, and swap them. C) illegals and alcoholics already drive all the time with no driver’s licenses. D) requires Stalinist state to back-up the passport with violent force. Otherwise, why would I participate? Why pay for the vast physical and bureaucratic overhead? E) Tainter pointed out that the fastest way to permanent Collapse was adding ever-increasing complexity and overhead.

    But sure: let’s create an expensive, complex system that won’t work, arrives too late, creates a Stalinist surveillance state, and causes total societal collapse. Why not? Apparently no one can learn otherwise.

    “‘Time Has Come’ For Universal Basic Income – Scottish PM Sturgeon (Ind.)”

    One thing you learn from history: nobody learns anything from history. 150 years later, 300 million people dead, still trying this. Still considered credible. Still much-desired by the very people always murdered by it.

    “near-unlivable” temperatures averaging 29 degrees through the year by 2070”

    Okay, so these guys have only been dead-wrong for 40 years. Polar ice gone! Manhattan underwater! It’s snowing in Lebanon, Libya, Saudi Arabia, and Mexico. 110+ more years and 329 million more people to go before we can ask to discredit them too.

    Oh and P.S., they were using computers. That guarantees their conclusions are garbage. Can’t even remember the last time a computer model was accurate. Or scientific paper. Or media report…

    Assange Extradition Hearing Delayed Until September (PR)”

    These are the guys you want to give Stalinist passport powers to. Okay. And they claim humans are a rational animal.

    “The whole agenda is … where … All money will be in your chips. And so, instead of having cash, any time you have money in your chip, they can take out whatever they want to take out whenever they want to…

    And, if you’re like me or you, and if you’re protesting what they’re doing, they can just turn off your chip. And you’ll have nothing. You can’t buy food. You can’t do anything. It’s total control of the people.” –Aaron Russo

    “Can’t we just drone this guy?” –Hillary Clinton

    No need: accidentally shut off his vaccine passport and walk away til he dies. Oopsie! Shut up and take my money! Where do I sign?

    in reply to: Why Lockdowns Work #58348
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Meh, don’t be like that. That’s what opinions are for.

    If everyone thought alike then we’d all be wrong in the exact same way, instead of now where we’re all wrong each in our own way. Much improvement.

    Wasn’t the question what is the exit strategy for the lockdown? You’ve just said there is none. Because we can’t “Crush” lockdown, the disease will get out there, as it always has through human history.

    You seem to be saying, we need to do this one thing which humans have never done, and only then are we allowed to be free men again and go back to normal.

    Okay, great. So what happens all the other times when we don’t do what humans have never done before?

    The disease is out there. We are headed for a lockdown of over a year right now. We’re headed toward suspending elections, government procedure, due process, human rights, and food shortages. Forever. World deaths are 250k / 8B = 0.003% U.S. deaths outside NYC are 20k / 320M = 0.01% Lockdown areas are falling, as the U.S. charts. Non-lockdown areas are falling, as Sweden, South Dakota. Lockdown areas are also rising, like NM and Singapore. Lockdown areas like U.K. fell BEFORE their lockdown began.

    The disease is already everywhere, has a 0.01% fatality, and our response has mixed and uncertain results, but has voluntarily put millions into poverty, and food shortages. So what’s the exit strategy? Do we wait for them to die and riot, erase all human rights and human love in the process, or do we take our chances with the 1 in 10,000 chance of a death that was coming anyway? Since once again we didn’t do what we’ve never done, what would you recommend now? More poverty and shortages, or less?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 4 2020 #58290
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Only the United States has suffered more deaths than Italy and Britain.”

    OMG, why??? The U.S. has 10x the population and 32x the area. This is like comparing Britain and the Isle of Wight.

    P.S. half the deaths are in only one city. If someone has a disease, don’t we usually put the sick person in the hospital and not the rest of the town? Works better that way.

    Yaneer Bar-Yam has lost his mind as much as Taleb. So…generally no symptoms for 5 days. May not get tested for some time after that. So…you want to do contact tracing on every person you were near for a week? The idea you could remember or know their names is a fantasy. So…you’re creating the ILLUSION of tracing, while a number of contacts go untraced? Gotcha. Lies, illusions, and fantasies of control are what we live for.
    I’ve got an idea: shut down the subway. Nope! Cruise ships? Nope! Nursing homes? Nope! Health care workers are the main contaminants, 20%. What does that say about your full-body safety measures?

    “DOJ Intervenes for Church in Virginia Restrictions Challenge (Solomon)”

    In the American Revolution, 6,000 men died in the war, but 10,000 of disease. Epidemics were common and deadly. That’s why they wrote “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances…except if someone gets sick somewhere.

    By the way, to target a group and remove their Constitutional rights is a very grave crime indeed. It can serve many years or even a life sentence. Especially if someone gets killed because of your illegal, unconstitutional actions.

    Also, didn’t want to be pedantic until now, but it’s not a “Quarantine”. ” Quarantine: a period, originally 40 days, of detention or isolation imposed upon ships, persons, animals, or plants on arrival at a port or place, when suspected of carrying some infectious or contagious disease.” We put the SHIP in the quarantine, not the CITY. We put the sick PERSON into quarantine, not the NATION. The opposite thing you’ve confused it with is called “Martial Law”, “House arrest” or “Prison”. Without arrest, trail, conviction, or adjudication. It’s a crime.

    But it doesn’t matter now. Like I said: these guys can’t even get people not to do drugs and shoot each other, but they think they can have unlimited martial law and house arrest worldwide forever. Hahahahahaha! Well, after being cooperative for a while, when the America found the rate was 20k / 320M = 0.006% death rate outside NYC, the people coast to coast have stopped caring. No one’s obeying nothing. DGAF. They threw a policeman into a lake who tried to make them. (He had no mask, as always.) So the people are feeling pretty cheerful and good-natured about it right now. Try to keep it that way.

    You passed a rule? Cool story bro. Don’t care. Make me. Huntington Beach shows how you can’t arrest them all. But they are! They are arresting mask violators while violent criminals are being released to commit more violent crimes, often being arrested multiple times a day, knowing the police and state no longer stop violence, only Covid fantasies.

    Stole $9,000 from a Publix? Violent rapist with restraining order? You’re free to go! Went to the park with your quaranteam? How dare you!

    “We will shut you down, we will cite you, and if we need to, we will arrest you and we will take you to jail.” –Chicago mayor Lightfoot, just back from her latest mask-free trip to the nail salon.

    Hahahahahahaha! Says a mayor of the city where more people shoot each other each year than have died of Covid! And has almost all my life although guns are illegal there! You’re a stitch! Your joke so funny!

    You die alone from COVID. And you will be buried alone. Stay home.”

    Weird there’s no doctors and nurses there. Somebody should call the hospital and ask some questions. And do we usually bury people together? Cool language for the Fe-Fe’s though. Very Science-free, like the rest of this media s–t-blizzard.

    “If you are lucky enough to make it off a ventilator”

    You would be lucky to make it off the ventilator since we have discovered they’re the wrong medicine and are probably killing people. Who is this reporter? Anything like the last 5 fake nurses who went viral?

    The WHO, AKA “He-who-must-be-obeyed”, has killed quite a number of people, a few thousand perhaps? With the clever advice, “The systematic failure of critical care systems to adopt corticosteroid therapy resulted from the published recommendations against corticosteroids use by the World Health Organization (WHO), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the American Thoracic Society (ATS) amongst others. “

    “It is our collective opinion that the historically high levels of morbidity and mortality from COVID-19 is due to a single factor: the widespread and inappropriate reluctance amongst intensivists to employ anti-inflammatory and anticoagulant treatments, including corticosteroid therapy early in the course of a patient’s hospitalization. It is essential to recognize that it is not the virus that is killing the patient, rather it is the patient’s overactive immune system. The flames of the “cytokine fire” are out of control and need to be extinguished.”
    https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf

    Thanks WHO! Did China put you up to murdering those thousands of white guys? Probably not. You probably did it on your own, like all of Africa and the 500,000 maimed polio children in India.

    Coronavirus US live: Cuomo says ‘government essential to human life’

    So…no economy, no jobs, no money. …But the government is still collection 100% taxes and has 100% employment and pay! That’s the way to share! None for thee and all for me! Quick, I gotta get to the gym because the one in Gracie Mansion Just. Isn’t. Large. Enough. Well, he can meet up with the mayor of Chicago and the Illinois governor’s wife jet-setting around mask-free.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 3 2020 #58286
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Helping people is Capitalism, where you have voluntary, un-coerced exchange.

    What other kind would you recommend?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 3 2020 #58276
    Dr. D
    Participant
    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 2 2020 #58216
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Ah, the Russians. Those who actually fought the war, as planned. What, you think that little party went from 5 guys in a basement to toppling the country without the backing of big money? You think Britain and everyone famously stood by and watched because they didn’t WANT it to happen, that they didn’t have a plan? You think they didn’t write about this in WWI or as far back as MacKinder? THE PLAN WAS TO PLACE SOMEONE IN GERMANY TO ATTACK RUSSIA AND KILL BOTH NATIONS. So Brits could sit home and let somebody else do it. They were happy he took Poland, Czech, everywhere. They were only mad he double-crossed them and annoyed their king-cousin in Belgium. Still, went pretty well, all considered. Germany and Russia DID fight each other, and Britain DID remain #1 for another 50 years. Didn’t you read Steele’s docs? They were setting elections and controlling countries of every Anglo nation, right up until 2016.

    And they wonder why Stalin was mad at them.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 2 2020 #58215
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Since every other statistic, every other word spoken by Americans is a lie, what makes you think the COVID numbers are accurate? If they were it would be the only one. Especially when you receive $17,000 per lie.

    Accurate? Democratic states have 30k cases. Republican states have 2k. I believe there is at least one city in one Republican state, what are the statistical odds? (last week’s data)

    30,000 have died in NYC. Outside NYC the rate is 10,000 / 320M = 0.009% Can someone please tell me how that’s possible?

    Statistically, according to the CDC, the number of excess deaths in Florida is 134. Not thousand, 134 persons. https://tomluongo.me/2020/05/01/lockdowns-ending-politics-rule-desantis/ That is statistical zero. “Shut it down, Mr. President, shut it down!” 3,000 counties not affected, 3,000 counties hospitals empty, going broke, killing people by not doing general procedures and screening.

    According to the CDC, the excess deaths are also zero.
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/Provisional-Death-Counts-COVID-19-Pneumonia-and-Influenza.pdf

    Outside of whatever happened to NYC, this is the Gulf of Tonkin virus: that is, we shoot at nothing to spend money and start a war that kills people.

    “Before you begin to restart the economy make sure you are not starting another economic collapse.”

    The disease didn’t cause any collapse and has no effect on the economy. It’s far too small. YOU caused this by shutting it down, voluntarily, whether that was wise or not. So you cannot cause another economic collapse, since the disease didn’t cause the first one.

    Even if you – voluntarily – shut down again, you couldn’t cause a collapse since you can’t have two collapses at once. Like two buckets of water, they merge and are only one collapse. The one you chose to have.

    As Johnstone says ““They destroyed the economy over a virus, but the narrative about the virus is completely fake!” Perhaps. But so was the narrative about “the economy”.

    ““..the number of kids testing positive for the virus in the U.S. is greater than the total number of confirmed cases in many countries, including Singapore, Ireland, and Mexico ..”

    Yes, because the U.S. is a lot larger than a single city and a tiny island.

    If the children have it, doesn’t that mean their lockdown didn’t work? At all?

    “[CDC says] I think the timing of our travel alerts should have been earlier.”

    This was the CDC who did not recommend that at the time and didn’t recommend masks until a month later. Gotcha.

    “The symptoms appear in different ways, experts told TPM. Some patients struggle with blood clots that course throughout their body, while others have severely inflamed hearts. Others still face organ failure amid spiraling blood oxygen levels.”

    Again, only NYC and no where else? Symptoms all over the map that make no sense? Sounds like the symptoms you’d get if you were gently microwaved.

    Bone-Chilling WTF Charts of the Collapse in US Fuel Demand (WS)”

    Everyone’s dying, oil use has stopped. From what I understand, this is wonderful. This is what everyone has been working for all these years. Time for celebration? Did they get what they wanted, but aren’t happy now either?

    For testing/prevention, if it’s not killing anyone, then clearly Pence don’t need to wear a mask and Amazon don’t need to provide PPE. This is exactly what the White House Briefing leak said. But who are you going to believe? Your own eyes and ears, or CNN?

    Other great stats: WalMart claims – Zero – people have C19, the (Chinese owned) meat plants claim 100% do. I have the feeling something is amiss with their statistics. Politics and profit, maybe?

    What did I just say about Americans lying about EVERYTHING, ALWAYS. …?

    Unless they point #Logos back in their life, nothing can change.

    in reply to: Backwards into the Future #58147
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “We told humans not to be humans.” “Well that didn’t work out very well.”

    I prepared for humans to be humans. And when things went wrong, there was everything. Because I, being human, made arrangements and prepared for it. Others can too, and many have.

    If you’re not going to do anything when you, not “society” know this is certain to happen, who do you think is going to save you from yourselves?

    in reply to: Backwards into the Future #58146
    Dr. D
    Participant

    This is how humans are. You cannot lock down for every shadow. The expense would be near-infinite. They then must lock down too late. They also locked down the wrong things. Beaches and hiking trails, but not parades, subways, liquor stores and nursing homes. Being humans, they also do it unevenly and with substantial gaps. For instance, apparently any mayor or famous person can go golfing or fly wherever they want. Then once (not) locked down, but having some illusion of lockdown, a certain help, humans did not use the expensive time bought them either. Having time, they wasted it, both in medicine and at home. Then, having wasted the time for the (non) lock down, they don’t really have, they DID damage the economy trade, and division of labor that keeps them all alive.

    Now they can’t un-lock the non-lockdown they didn’t have. Egos are at stake. Science is still not used. They lockdown islands in Michigan and the fenced beach in your own backyard, but still not nursing homes, airlines, and cruise ships. Safe, small business like being outdoors painting houses is stopped, bankrupted, and Wal-Mart is packed shoulder to shoulder. They can deliver Furbles to your door but not food.

    Didn’t you know all this was going to happen? This is how human are. It’s not like we didn’t know since the Middle Ages, it’s just the same as the middle ages. Messy. Violent. Corrupt. Un-scientific. Un-reflective. Non-functional. So here we are, being us.

    This is exactly how we got to be 8 billion. This is how we are so astoundingly successful through 5,000 years of pandemics and world wars, by doing exactly this. By being messy, uncooperative, unreasonable, and unpredictable. If we were cooperative and predictable we’d long have been slaves to a single wolf. Those people, that action, saves us 10,000 times and sometimes it’s irritating, but it has a very great, noble, and hidden purpose. Those uncooperative people are saving you right now by holding back the waters and tying up a tyranny that doesn’t know how to cope with them. There are risks and cost all over. They are volunteering to save you on that front, and you can save them on another. Even medically, perhaps.

    But we seem to be past the high-water mark on all nations, locked or no, and now we’re going to go from a senseless, unorganized non-lockdown to a senseless, unorganized non-startup. Did all the shouting not to be messy, not to be unorganized help anything? Was all the bad blood and beatings worth the backlash that will come? Was telling humans not to be human help them to not act like the way human beings act?

    “Well I told them and they didn’t instantly obey.” Welcome to life. Nobody cares what anybody else says or thinks. They never have, not for the last 10,000 years. If you noticed, no one did now either. But I won’t tell them AND I won’t obey, so I guess I’m part of the club.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 1 2020 #58131
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “In early March I watched the President, Treasury, Congress, and Fed sit for less than two days (prior to any lockdown) and agree on a $5.4 trillion package to bail out over-levered speculators via the repo market. The speculators never had to stop speculating.

    But then I was mandated to close down my businesses. Yet when it came to approve funding for small businesses that same group of policymakers bickered for 3 weeks to agree on a package only 1/10th the size of the speculator bailout. If that wasn’t disheartening enough, I was then told the funding would be a lottery from which the winners would be selected by bankers because the approved honey pot was far too small to help but a few small businesses.

    I’m still waiting for my winning number to be called and still trying to understand why bankers are allocating taxpayer funds. In the meantime my employees sit at home and my business model is melting away.
    As someone that is fairly proficient in financial modeling what has me stumped is the math behind approving only $600 billion for 30 million small businesses. One doesn’t require a Booth MBA to understand $600 billion, half of which was very quickly gobbled up by large entities, is effectively immaterial. The math equates to approximately $10K – $20K per operating business. And so there is absolutely no question that a decision has been made to let 5M to 10M small businesses go under over the next 12 months. That’s basic math and I’m keen to understand why.

    The policymakers need to explain why the Fed can print any amount of money it deems necessary so long as that money goes to bankers, traders, private equity firms, endowment funds, and publicly traded corporations. Why only when it comes to actual economic producers like small businesses or civic institutions like healthcare must we adhere to this law of money scarcity. And why don’t the PhD economists discuss this financial bigotry?

    https://www.thechicagoeconomist.com/episodes/family-guy-presents-fed-policy

    Already covered it: if the money hides only in fictional finance, it’s inert, glacial, and Ice Cap. If any of it gets anywhere near the real economy, prices rise, wages rise, commodities rise, and proportionately, stocks and assets “fall”. Wall Street gets poorer, farmers and workers get richer. Bankers and politicians lose power: the people and producers gain power. THIS CAN NEVER HAPPEN. In fact, this is what they say, each and every meeting, about “Inflation expectations are contained.” “Wages are stable.” Stable while inflation makes them poorer each moment and half their savings is erased by retirement. This is considered a total “good.” Wages can never rise, assets like stocks and houses can always rise until, like Canada, Australia, and hot spots worldwide, they are no longer 0.5x but 3x, 6x, 10x average income and every child of every mother is living on the streets of San Francisco in a pile of s—t getting medieval diseases and no one cares. They don’t care because the zeros they created in their stocks give them the power and privilege not to care, and also not to do any work at all, ever.

    “The richest one percent of this country owns half our country’s wealth, five trillion dollars. One third of that comes from hard work, two thirds comes from inheritance, interest on interest accumulating to widows and idiot sons – and what I do, stock and real estate speculation. It’s bullshit. You got ninety percent of the American public out there with little or no net worth. I create nothing. I own. We make the rules, pal. The news, war, peace, famine, upheaval, the price per paper clip. We pick that rabbit out of the hat while everybody sits out there wondering how the hell we did it. Now, you’re not naive enough to think we’re living in a democracy, are you, Buddy?” –Wall Street

    It takes a government to do that. It takes their authorization, their protection, their redistribution, and their unending violence toward the people. Because otherwise, the people would not allow it, as they voted overwhelmingly not to in ’08, and would not allow this injustice, and would eat up the whales like piranhas in just a few years of real competition without the government enforced monopoly protections. How can I tell? Every industry that has money: cell phones, pharmaceutical, finance, automakers, colleges, military, are universally monopolies. Any place that isn’t true: Lasik, plastic surgery, LCD TVs, YouTube education, Bitcoin, the prices are 1/5th to 1/100th for the same services.

    They can print infinite money provided it’s buried in a big hole and never reaches the economy, that is to say, YOU. As long as it gives them more power and you less. No mystery Mr. VF Chicago. They write it in public documents, explain it, and sign it with their name.

    Unfortunately, that can’t last forever. Prices for fantasy cannot grow to the sky. Prices for real goods, wheat, silver, cannot fall forever, because one day they will not be produced. And that day is today.

    When they’re not produced, the prices rise. When the prices rise, speculators see a new trend. Long-seeking, they sell their overpriced assets that are stalling and buy the underpriced assets that are rising. The entire Ice Cap of fake value, printed money, evaporates from paper promises and rushes like the sea into real goods. Thanks to their decades of interference, the relative price and size are mismatched by orders of magnitude. Prices for food that would ordinarily rise 10-fold in 1970 can now rise 200-fold.

    As that cannot happen, the system itself will crack and be reset. As it just cracked and is being reset right now, this minute.

    Do you see them print money, $1,200/person, $600+/week, $10Trillion a month? Those are call options on real goods in the system.

    On the other side, they have prevented any new goods from being produced. The call option is only on goods that are in warehouses this minute. When they’re gone, they’re gone. No work = everybody dies. Might there be shortages under such a system? Just like every place in time and space it’s been tried?
    And it’s not just this. Base + $600+/week = $25k/year salary. No one CAN go back to work unless private-sector wages rise, possibly double, to bring those 50% of workers who actually DO things back to the factory. So you have rising prices AND shortages even if you call back to work as quickly as is practicable.
    But go on, print your money and learn your lesson. No one will learn otherwise. I’ll sit and watch. This was always going to happen. There’s nothing left for me to do but to watch my preparations play out.

    Stocks Scream to “Most Expensive Ever” in Greatest Month Since ’87”

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    “Deutsche Bank Capitulates: Starts Charging Negative Rate on All New Deposit Accounts Over €100,000 — The great rotation into “alternative” assets is about to begin.”

    “Silver Hasn’t Been this Cheap in 5,000 Years of Human History”

    Silver:gold ratio long-term average: 16:1. Today’s ratio: 112:1

    https://ourworldindata.org/food-prices#wheat-prices-since-the-13th-century

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 29 2020 #58064
    Dr. D
    Participant

    We believe science. We trust the doctors. Unless they’re California ER doctors with 5 million views. Then we delete them.

    According to themselves and their non-testing 1 in 300 people in the U.S. already had it. That’s not too shabby in immunity, except for how they now say it’s impossible to be immune. So obviously we have to continue the lockdown into the 2090’s. When we won’t have any immunity either, but will have 57 new Heinz varieties. At that rate, we’ll soon have infinite detention and zero immunity to anything. We can all have the joys of being Bubble Boy. Oh, and of course, never, never die. Everyone will live forever and we’ll win the new #WarOnDeathItself. Yup indeedie doodlie.

    Meanwhile, without any of their actions, cases dropped in Bronx way back on the 11th and have stayed down. That ER doctor isn’t being reported because he says in this low-income, vital-worker area, the stop happened despite quarantine, not because of it. You know, like we see all over the planet. Switzerland is today’s example. What? The media didn’t tell you we’re 18 days past the peak already? Wow, how odd they wouldn’t report that. Several hundred death certificates had to be reversed in Pennsylvania, cutting the deaths in half because the coroners rioted (for them). So people like a man with double gunshot wounds and a baby who was smothered won’t be Covid cases anymore. Don’t worry: it will never be reported.

    Super-rich made $282B or $10,800 per unemployed person. It takes the government to make this happen.

    Government shutdowns, government bailouts. Hey, why’s that income disparity so high? Every time they help it gets higher. Can’t figure it out.

    “Wait. That means they don’t get anything from the payroll schemes, right?”

    Correct. But that means they make something like $25k/year instead, perhaps doubling their pay. Also there are no rules on the payroll thing, so no one know if they’re eligible, what the rules are, and if it’s a grant or a loan. Any corporate lawyer would shoot you if you signed it: you have unlimited risk and no visibility. Like HAMP, that evicted many thousands from their homes. Oops! Did I win again? Nice house you got here. Shame if it should end up in my pockets.

    Rather than kind of doing sort of the least effort that kind of will slow it down, do the most effort and get it to stop and you’re done”

    He’s obviously never met human beings before. How are you going to make them? How are you going to make them when you can’t arrest and jail them? Is making them not going to kill more of them? Cool story, bro’. Nobody’s listening. You’re already at maximum cooperation and dropping fast. Point?

    “• Empower local governments
    • Maximize social distancing
    • Require mask usage”

    Empower them to do what? Arrest people? Flap their gums? Take money they don’t have? Hahahahahahahaha. “Enforce distancing” how? “Require” how? You can’t even stop being from shooting heroin and stabbing each other. Hahahahahaha.

    Conditions for PHASE 1 reopening:
    + Mandatory masks in public
    + Tests
    + No superspreaders: subways, urologists conferences, etc.
    + Monitoring of passengers
    + Economists & psychologists stay locked-up at in permanent quarantine.
    Basically what we should have done in late January.” — Taleb

    Except we had:
    a) no masks
    b) no tests
    c) no way to monitor as we have:
    d) no symptoms
    And we still have none of those things. We also have no magic moonbeams. I tell you Taleb is losing his mind.

    Schmarty-answer? “Well I TOLD them, so…” Uh-huh. So your very-smart words makes tests and masks and food appear? Tell me again how smart you are.

    Thousands of British Workers Will Need to Gather the Harvest (R.)”

    Sounds like they’ll need to raise wages. And now above the $25K/yr level unemployment gives. Hey, won’t that make FOOD prices rise and then perfectly match and erase the stimulus? Has this happened everywhere on earth every time it’s been tried?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 28 2020 #58034
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Only if the cost isn’t worse than the medical lead time we buy them. Right now, medicine knows substantially LESS than when we started. If now hits children. It now attacks blood. It now has 5 new symptoms. They claim it will have 5 new variants we now need to be immune to. There is now no immunity, making no point in lockdowns at all. Certainly no point in tracking or passports then. On the other side, lowering the curve definitely extends the pain. We have definitely caused Great Depression unemployment and GDP. We are definitely shutting down the food system. We have shut down access to ordinary medicine. It is definitely not a pandemic hazard in most areas, even if it might be some day in the future. And disputed, all numbers point towards 0.1% for general population, with a high recommendation that an easily-identified <10% at risk should take caution. So the expense on the 90% or 98% is total, while the gains for the 2% are marginal. …Because they have no job, no economy, no supplies, and soon, no food. Perfect #OppositeLand, where we attack the many to save the few.

    Pelosi Changes Position On Trump Travel Ban Once Called Racist (Turley)”

    Don’t worry: facts. Therefore no one cares.

    Judge Blocks 30-Day Extension of Illinois Stay-at-Home Order (CBS)”

    Certainly is an appropriate legal battle. Both interests are essential.

    US Doctors Have Started Giving Men with Coronavirus Estrogen (DM)”

    Seems a bit extreme when the delta between them is only 10%, doesn’t it?

    “Italy, UK Explore Possible COVID19 Link to Child Inflammatory Disease (R.)”

    Since children don’t – or didn’t – seem to get this, does that turn back to 5G again? Where are the children located? Any other correlations? That this must be two or more concurring things every day seems more and more plausible, necessary, even. And every day China says they don’t have it, never did, while Beijing and Shanghai are wide open and get no cases. Explain?

    Globalization doesn’t provide the right scale.”

    We are reducing the scale right now. Or changing. Yes, bringing work back from overseas, but then also downloading world-wide free .stl’s and 3D printing the same boutique things worldwide. Would that be more global or less?

    Gundlach Is Shorting the Market: Retest of the Low ‘Very Plausible’ (CNBC)”

    It is. The market is 99% rigged, however, they say “They” won’t let it happen. Fine, so where were “They” in ’99 and ’08? Rigging isn’t free: it has daily costs and physical limitations. Centralization and oppression of fair pricing is the opposite of “AntiFragile” (Taleb) However, by the numbers, Dow could be 6k and be just low priced, and +10k would only be fair-priced. Finance (and medicine) are 5x their historic average. Dow-Commodities ratio is at all-time extreme and should cycle back. As indicated by gold, that would be 1:1. 1,700 Dow or a $24,000/oz gold price, your pick. (probably somewhere in-between) That would match upcoming food shortages and price hikes in a 1970’s spiral: a spiral back to the norm.

    “a person is free only to the extent that they are capable to pursue the ends that give value to life. Thus, a lack of access to healthcare is an element of unfreedom,”

    This is well-covered territory that they are determined to misrepresent. Okay, YOU can “pursue” healthcare. You have the right to pursue your happiness. So…go to medical school and get a degree. Learn all you can. Fix your health. No one’s stopping you. What you want is SLAVERY. That is, — I — want to GET medical care, so YOU have to give it for me. Whether you like it or not, whether you get paid or not. Will they do it? Probably. Is it a social good? Definitely. Did they train themselves to help all people? Generally. But if they can’t say no, they are unfree. That is, you have now trampled THEIR rights. You have rights, but SO DO OTHERS, almost always forgotten now. That’s positive vs negative rights. Your rights are as those on a desert island: right to do things, to keep things you make, to do what you think best, believe what you want, defend yourself, etc. In practice their model is the antithesis of Liberty because it is financial coercion: pay taxes or we will remove all your Liberties in jail, forever. Nevertheless, we agree to this in aggregate because in a Democracy “we” theoretically “agree” to the contract. We don’t of course: the system is lying and rigged, but we concede the premise as a practical compromise as the only thing worse than Government is Anarchy. Mob Rule. Getting closer every day as long-feared.

    the banks were allowed to engage in practices with no social benefit but great potential for destruction, like the insuring of bonds they didn’t own”

    Well, let’s see, Insurance: that’s covered and regulated by the governments for 400 years, all corporations are licensed by the government, and fraud of selling what you don’t own has been illegal a few thousand years longer than that. So which one would you like me to pull your license and prosecute you on? A: none. No one can ever get arrested. No possible action can have consequences.

    to make the British government take on the responsibility of feeding the entire British population”

    If the “Government’ is the ‘People’ in a Democracy, then aren’t the “People” then feeding the “Population”? That is, the people are working to feed themselves? If so, what is the “Government” providing except useless overhead?

    culture of sharing does not seem, so far at least, to be gaining much ground”

    “Sharing” like where the people work, and the government takes it from them? Give insider shopping and palatial Dachas? They put themselves first in line for masks, gloves, food, security, while leaving Blackpool to starve and stab. Was that “sharing”? How about reducing your size and pay to “share” that wealth with Blackpool? A: Never. “Sharing” is one-directional only. From outsiders to insiders. From me to you. Why? People who don’t work have nothing to steal. So it has to be from the working to the non-working.

    Their insistence on directly reducing deficits and debt, in the midst of a downturn, he says, “led to severe cuts in public expenditure.”

    What he’s really saying is the government cut social expenditure, but DID NOT LOWER TAXES so the people could make that expenditure for themselves. This is by definition not a “crisis of capitalism” because the government expending on behalf of the people – as opposed to defending the nation and providing justice – is not “capitalism” at all. It’s ‘Socialism’ of some variety (in common parlance). “Disaster Capitalism” (i.e. Anti-Capitalism) is this exact process of over-levering, forcing a collapse, then selling off assets to the wealthy, then re-nationalizing, then re-levering, then re-collapsing over and over again, like hitting the gas then the brake in a determined attempt to cause an accident, then pick the pockets of the dead you caused. This is why they need a Left and a Right. Only a Left and there would be no work and no prosperity to steal; only the Right and they wouldn’t have control of major forces that could crash multi-billion or trillion economies to steal them, nor the fake cover of “helping the poor.” Only government are large enough to create that kind of mischief, so it must interfere and have that power, that is, must have some form of ‘Socialism.’ This is why there must be corruption, to maintain control of the few people who control those levers, the fewer the better. (Centralization)

    So I imagine you could run a state that does provide social welfare – certainly that has been done under benevolent Kings. However, the government then destroys the people’s provision for their own welfare, and not even by money, perhaps but by habit. Not even intentionally but inevitably. Then when the government weakens in the ordinary waxing and waning of time, the social state fails and the people no longer have provisions of their own. If the government had not done that, the people would have kept up their own resources instead, and the waxing and waning of family, social customs, etc is slower and more resilient. So again, government is a guaranteed failure, with a guaranteed drain in overhead costs. But as I say, this has become intentional, Disaster Capitalism, by which the rich prey on the poor and the poor acquiesce to the abuse, thinking a social state will get them something for free, when it’s really just a predictable bear trap, that “everybody can live at everybody else’s expense.” But they say, “No, governments will never weaken, they will only grow; taxes will only rise, never fall,” but that is children’s thinking. It can grow, and it has for 100 years now, but not forever.

    For the poor, the sudden imposition of the lockdown meant that, from one moment to the next, they were left without work and without an income, facing the prospect of starvation.”

    Bingo. The “sudden imposition” BY THE GOVERNMENT, is what threw the poor into starvation. He says so himself, and it is agreed by all that it was voluntary, however well or ill-advised. The next paragraphs highlight the useless overhead of the government, who also mismanaged the social welfare. Their coercion additionally trampled many rights, created unfreedom, overwhelmed the people’s response and caused the very medical spread and additional death they claimed to prevent. No one but the government has the reach and power to cause this death and destruction. That can and will benefit the rich. Perpetually, constantly, in history. Which is fine, but so often they seem to propose government as a solution to everything, ignoring they can also be the problem, so large they trample the people with their carelessness. When smaller, government cannot do that, not as badly, and also reduces the waste and overhead, improves the response time, and because services are now provided BY the people, must adhere to the will OF the people. That is, no deadly battles about whether we provide help to those people, with or without star-bellies or with planned clinics and firesticks or without.

    Brazil Court OKs Investigating Allegations Against Bolsonaro (R.)”

    What’s that about the government getting too large, that “when the elephants fight, the grass gets trampled“? Only 3rd world governments do this. Like ours for the last 30 years. RussiaRussiaRussia. Russia2: Ukrainian Boogaloo. Investigate Covid response.

    Biden’s Conspiracy Theory Given Credence By Media, Democratic Leaders (Turley)”

    And just like 3rd world governments, constantly create conspiracy theories and not facts, and actively promoted by the media and people by mob rule under the rule of men, keep them in scandal but never prosecute and rest, and not a republic where the people have rights and property and security under a rule of law. That being so…shouldn’t someone get arrested, sometime, ever? Cheeto? Any stable genius words for not doing your job?

    “Former Neighbor of Joe Biden’s Accuser Tara Reade Has Come Forward (BI)”

    Speaking of law, evidence, and arrests. Never. Not even if you take $1B from China or half as much from Russia (Ukraine, really, but no one can tell the difference.) I’m not saying you convict — in fact the statute is over on Tara — but the facts are worth looking into. Instead the NY Times said, “Believe all Bidens” after helping confirm (accidentally) Tara’s claim has merit.

    “Julian Assange Extradition Hearing Postponed for Up to Six Months (CW)”

    Thus a “speedy trial” as a right, because otherwise every appeal is a life sentence, and the burden is exclusively on the Prosecution (presumed innocent), with transparency. A weak government could not get away with this.

    Sidney Powell, Flynn, are Exhibit No 1. Three years’ prosecution, bankruptcy, with no basic access to the Prosecutions’ information as required by any and all laws, and even now, the evidence they have is still classified and not public, not transparent, protecting the malpractice of the government and giving prosecutors illegal lifelong impunity for their own crimes. Cheeto? Anyone enforcing the law? Barr is concerned about Constitution on the lockdown? Guessing that enforcing this other Constitutional thing is a bit more pressing.

    Since governments do this 100% of the time in history, why do you want to make them more powerful and hidden again? They need to have LESS power, scope, and authority. They are not your Daddy. They are not Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy if you didn’t notice from their recent behavior. YOU are the sovereign. YOU have the work and responsibility.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 27 2020 #58027
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Yes, whatever CV19 is, the response backwards. You would always focus on the infected and the vulnerable and not the healthy. The first is uncharacteristically impractical, so the next step would be stop 100% contact of over 70. They knew this in two weeks, by Italy.

    So did anyone plan/pay/volunteer to live-in at nursing homes to be essential workers with near-full quarantine? No. Not even discussed. Not even now after most that can be killed, are. Still locking down the 90% population that statistically isn’t in real danger and provides the resources for the 10% and the national economy.

    Pretty sure that shows they need to be fired because they wanted to kill the old, as discussed in many papers on national sovereignty, or need to be fired because they’re so incompetent they can’t tell up from down.

    Something else is happening, because this should equally hit rural nursing homes, and although would move slower, we’ve been 12 weeks at it and the numbers, therefore their theory, isn’t following. Look at NOLA: the parade sickened the city, okay. But not the ten-thousand visitors who returned to Arkansas and Missouri? This is all over.

    Apparently your main risk is being in a city. Only certain, very specific cities. We don’t have coal-smog pollution anywhere in the U.S. anymore and the cities don’t match it (e.g. L.A.). Not like I want to get there, but that leads only back to 5G, which appear to be the cities affected. If we have overlapping symptoms of two different causes, the virus is real but a light cellular microwaving is also real, we start to see a coherent pattern. Otherwise, how Wuhan and Beijing, Shanghai are completely open? Virus obeys border signs?

    I don’t know how many people die from unemployment or how long it takes, but I promise you the risk is also not zero. For one thing, unemployment means you have no health care; unless you think having no health care isn’t a risk factor and won’t kill you. I’d add that the single indicator of health in the U.S. is income. No income clearly puts you at the bottom of all statistics. And that’s before stress, staying home drinking, and being reckless. Yes, I can’t quantify it, but my link was from the NIH National Institute of Health. Surely you’re not going to say their study isn’t science and they don’ t know what they’re talking about.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 27 2020 #57994
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Finally, mainstream NBC reporting that Corona science makes no sense: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-coronavirus-response-questioned-daily-dr-fauci-dr-birx-ncna1192266

    Don’t worry: no one will follow up or notice. Or the 4k-20k deaths per 1% x 20% increase in unemployment = 80,000 – 400,000 premature deaths from the lockdown.

    As long as you die in a cardboard box, it’s all good to me! Just like their health care pricing monopoly. Hey, we gave you the bypass surgery, it’s not our fault if you went bankrupt paying government-enforced pricing and now live in the sewers of Vegas catching typhus. It’s your fault.

    So basically we’ll get our 250k U.S. deaths scenario: 50,000 from Corona and 200,000 from the economy, crime, and civil unrest, food shortages, and delays of screening and voluntary medical care. #Winning! The people cheer! Help us Daddy! Tell us what to do!

    The hospitals of 3,000 counties are empty and going bankrupt, along with the 3,000 county governments and everybody in them. Can we stop now? A: No! There’s still someone sick in Yonkers. Someone in Oklahoma isn’t living in a tent yet.

    Protests in Germany to unlock. +5k dead. / 83M = 0.006% death rate. U.S. +55K dead = 0.02% That’s with the CDC counting all possibles as yes and $17k payout incentive to every one they can stamp as positive.
    Experts = Totally wrong. Off by two zeros. So, so easy to tell. Because that’s been true every day of my life.

    To contradict myself, FT says 60% are unreported. https://www.ft.com/content/6bd88b7d-3386-4543-b2e9-0d5c6fac846c

    Okay. Take it as true: why are the rates wildly, radically, unscientifically different? Why still NYC and not Albany, Pittsburgh, or indeed anywhere coast-to-coast? Because we’re chasing the wrong thing, fighting shadows? Science says if your theories don’t support, shouldn’t you look again?

    The UK death toll could jump past 100,000 by the end of the year if lockdown is lifted too early,”

    That’s weird: Oxford said the opposite. Could you experts get together and science some things for us? Your only success was making everyone totally confused and fight with each other. Maybe we should be fighting you and your catastrophic lack of good advice and solid facts instead.

    social isolation will need to be kept in place until a pharmaceutical intervention is found,”

    Well, that’ll never happen, so expect house arrest forever, until we all die of old age. Why? Because we already found a couple interventions and they were trashed in the media and prevented from being tested. You have to keep voting until you pick the RIGHT solution. Otherwise we’ll remove you. Call it the EU method.

    UK Economy Will Take Three Years to Recover from Coronavirus – EY (G.)”

    Experts know. Estimated to two decimal places. So, good sirs, recover to what? Transplanetary production under neoliberalism of useless disposable goods from China? Thinking not. So we’re not ‘recovering’, we’re changing.

    One in Three UK Doctors Left without Protective Gear (Ind.)”

    And still, every shipment of PPE from China is broken and fake, trying to kill more doctors. Pretty sure that, same as here, the panic has them hoarding PPE in the basement for a final overwhelm that never comes thanks to broken models that can’t be discredited. So “have” it? Pretty sure they “have” it, they’re scared to “use” it, because the decision-makers aren’t the ones being coughed on.

    Fauci Says US Coronavirus Testing Likely Will Double in the Coming Weeks (JTN)”

    Then the rates will double and the death rate will halve (again). No prize for guessing which one the media will report. It will also show their attempted lockdown didn’t stop anything.

    Anyone know if the tests are worthless yet? Heard they picked up flu coronas, not Covids, and other bad habits. They also don’t reveal if you had Covid 6 months ago. My understanding is that at least they work.

    leave the United States with so much oil there was nowhere to put it.”

    I’ve said this for decades: simply drive half as much and the price is negative, we’re an exporter. Since more than half of the driving we do is stupid, time-wasting, and counter-productive, that’s the easiest thing in the world, just old-time frugality and common sense. Not spending is a way not to get poor. But that does not make GDP and tax income, and is fought, subsidized, zoned, and arrested at every turn. Sales are the goal. The efficiency is the enemy. As seen in the next article, the Green New Deal, Teslas, ethanol, solar panels, mega-windmills and all their other energy-and-material wasting projects. By when it’s forced sales, forced extraction from the poorest taxpayers so they won’t have clean water, who cares? FROM the poor, TO the rich, but they need a scam, a con, a buy-in, a sales pitch. If that happens to be “green” whatever, I don’t care.

    “Minks Test Positive for COVID19 at Two Dutch Farms (EN)”

    I guess this is a new level of “everybody’s going to get it.”

    They didn’t even bother about legislation. Betcha that’s true for most countries.”

    That’s why the quarantines are illegal all over, or generally. But we’re being cooperative. Legally, you have to pass a law to do things. The law has to be Constitutional. How last century: the 19th Century.

    the crime of sedition is really what both governments are accusing Julian Assange of.”

    I need not point out that you can’t be seditious to a government not your own. Especially if you don’t live there.

    UV-Disinfection robot”

    But they said light and disinfectant was stupid. Except no help to Captain Dumb-ss, we have internal disinfectants like peroxide nebulizers and light therapy like UV catheters and ventilators. How do we know? Because those manufacturers were banned from Twitter yesterday to hide the evidence of their existence. Dorsey promised to attack Trump and rig the election. Sort of like Jeb Bush back when. Muh private company. But isn’t that an illegal campaign donation of like-kind service? Only when it’s my side. Right or wrong.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 26 2020 #57948
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “backing an approach supported by Apple and Google”

    Well, if it’s Apple and Google, I know it’s evil AND it won’t work. That one is a war profiteer, and the other supports slavery not a clue to anyone? How won’t it work? I’ll leave my phone home. And that’s above how a) everyone gets it doesn’t matter, they are asymptomatic b) even if we knew who had it, apparently there’s no immunity c) we have no decent testing so if you find the contact points, you can’t test accurately anyway d) even if you traced and tested, it would have no medical value since a) no one outside of a wheelchair dies of it, so there’s nothing for medicine to DO until you have a medical issue because of it.

    “Ergo: you need a vaccine. “

    You can’t have a vaccine if there are no antibodies. And that’s considering no one has ever made a corona vaccine of any type, ever. But people aren’t Sciencing very hard. So if it’s not science, what’s driving it? Look at the people, their histories, and the irrational, unscientific solutions they propose. All needles point north, to what?

    Mumbai Is Trying To Stop COVID19 With Hydroxychloroquine (IT)”

    I guess we’ll find out. Certainly no one in the medical world is trying it, it’s going to take somebody other than GSK and Novartis, who would, and many times have, let us all die rather than sell a cheap cure.

    The number of new cases of Covid-19 being diagnosed is still much too high”

    That’s because they’re testing??? We found everywhere else 10x the people already had it so it’s 1/10th as dangerous as reported, but this is not true in the nation of Heathrow and 10,000 passengers a day? Okey-dokey. We’ll compare you to Sweden when this is all over, because the lockdown vs none has been measured and has no effect – except to stop food, crash the economy, and kill people. We used no ventilators. The hospitals of 3,000 counties are empty. If you were trying to flatten the curve, I think you won. Never say die. Go power-grab to the horizon.

    Organizers Plan the Largest US Rent Strike in Nearly a Century (IC)

    This would have made sense until they had a worker bailout that was larger than their original paychecks, so now they can afford it if they want.

    Michael Flynn Deliberately Set Up, Framed By Corrupt FBI Agents – Lawyer (JTN)”

    And nobody goes to jail. Cheeto then says bad things happened, terrible crimes were committed. Sir? Perhaps you haven’t noticed but it’s YOUR job to do something about it? Blahblahblahblah. Hee-haw,hee-haw. I can’t hear you over the sound of nobody doing any work, nobody doing their job.

    “The CIA has been at war with Journalism for over a decade.”

    The clowns have controlled the press since the Dulles Brothers in 1950. It was all put up in the Church commission and Mockingbird. No one cares. Didn’t happen. What’s on Congressional record and Wikipedia doesn’t exist. You’re making it up because I won’t read or believe anything, regardless of how authoritative, inevitable, common sensical, or logical. Oh, and speaking of following the law? Oh and their jurisdiction is exclusively OUTSIDE the borders? Oh and he is not a citizen? Oh and it still wouldn’t be illegal? No one follows the law. We are lawless, and worse #AntiLogos, without reason, logic, or facts.

    Taleb seems to have a blind spot here. We must take 100% actions for vanishing tail risks? And he’s right, if you add tail risks of asteroids, the sentient robot takeover, alien invasions, AND the earth cracking in two, soon the certainty is 100% and we must take 100% actions against all of them, although it never happens. I bet he doesn’t trade that way, because he exclusively buys cheap/free puts against tail risk. This one is overpriced. Outside of cities and nursing homes the virus is near-zero? So why would we quarantine the economy and not the target group? That goes against 1,000 years of practice.

    Sadly, like all other humans, he uses his intellect to support his emotional reaction and belief. That’s how we got here as we discover – surprise! – that the virus is dropping from 0.1% to 0.01% for non-comorbid people. But thanks for playing, you’ve destroyed the worldwide economy, that will blow up all finances and derivatives in 30 days, and I’m not sorry it’s going away. Happy, even, since we can all point to it later and never do that again.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 25 2020 #57947
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Yes, can’t take the advice of a fellow that has killed 300M people. In fact, I now see that we use his vocabulary all the time leads to taking his point of view all the time: Das Kapital, the proles, etc. We could use several other pattern languages: Brotherhood, pursuit of happiness, 7th generations, whatever. Odd how if you take up even one lie, it must expand like a cancer and take over all, or the all must take it over and expel it. But you know, living between earth and sky, that ‘they’ will always try this, and the “they” is “we” as the dividing line of good and evil is in us and our hearts.

    Just using medicine as an example, as we already pay European-high taxes or higher, are already a democratic-socialist nation, and already could pay it all with some to spare by stopping our war of world conquest and return to national defense at our borders. But the point is the same, if everybody works and then everybody uses that work, what is the “government” adding here but overhead and bulls–t? We can already do that for ourselves without them. We discovered, from 150 years of trying, that what they add is to have special party members create special party favors for themselves — Florida islands with 14-year-olds from Minnesota — and leave the work to others. So what you buy when ‘they’ distribute instead of ‘us’ is violent, incompetent overlords. Which is what we already have internationally and why I point out there are alternatives.

    Also pointing out regularly, but you’re (maybe) new, that national health care is illegal in the U.S. By the 10A, it would have to be dispersed by the States. Which it has. But it immediately bankrupted the states that tried it, which is why they want to nationalize — to hide that it’s a complete failure, and even at the State level government is riddled with graft and fraud and party favoritism that destroys all. That may not be true elsewhere, but it’s the proven predictable catastrophe here. Why fall into our weaknesses? Play to our strengths. We once had a functioning system that was very good and we dismantled the good in quest of the perfect, and now have the worst system in the world: infinite expense for near-zero care, that will fix anyone for free so long as those people are not productive and work to create society. Only if you’re not working, not a citizen, or disabled can you get free care. While pretty-in-concept, is it really a good idea to starve your plowhorse to give all the oats to the horse put out to pasture and the one with three legs? Sounds to me like you will soon have no oats and no horses either, and that’s just what’s happened.

    Speaking of, their plan is going well, we are seeing food shortages worldwide now. So if only they can keep it up a little longer we can kill 10x the people with food than the virus. Aaaaand they warned you. Aaaaand you said you didn’t care, you liked it that way. So, fine. They’re still saying — amazing — that like Yang “we’ll just print money.” No, no you won’t, because your money is worthless WHEN THERE’S NOTHING TO BUY. To which they answered, that’s silly: we’ll print MOAR money. Um, folks? You legally demanded no one work, no one make food, no one ship food, no one sell food. The money has nothing to do with it. You said you’d arrest the food, if it got out there, essentially. Next will be taking all the farms, enslaving all the farmers, and MAKING them make food, for free, Holodormor-style. Which seems a laugh but still happens worldwide constantly, in Zimbabwe, Venezuela, etc. Money is not food. Work, time, “das Kaptial inputs” are. Not Brooklyn and Fairfax fantasies. But no one will learn until it collapses and they put on the stupid face: “You mean MILK, comes from COWS, who have to eat, and whose eating requires gas, tractors, machine parts, shipping, multi-million dollar packing plants? Why can’t the cow just spurt the milk in my mouth? Isn’t that how it happens?” “No Little Jimmy, someday, when you get to kindergarten, you’ll learn that the magic rainbow cows do NOT fly into your treehouse and share free chocolate milk like the magic moving pictures on the pretty wall-box. If someday, you should do a lick of real work, you’ll understand.”

    Still surprising now. Somehow the people who don’t know how anything works are running things. Which is the problem with graft, nepotism, and corruption: obviously idiot sons of idiot sons — exclusively of Party members — buy their way into Yale and then are dumber than W on meth. They will run things and claim to be “experts”, killing us all with bad responses to fake science, until you man up, call them the idiots they are, and remove them. Before the ship sinks. But you don’t have to, and history is not kind on fixes: the ship can just sink with all hands on board and then the people who know how to run things take over anyway. …Because they’re the only ones left. Which seems to be how it’s going, so I’m pretty set with it. Can’t change them, they can’t learn except by seeing for themselves, just do my own work.

    Ugh, another day too long.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 25 2020 #57894
    Dr. D
    Participant

    This will get down into the rocks of why we are ruled by a minority.

    Okay, we print $1T, $10T for health care. What then? One, it goes passthrough to the exact same billionaires who hijacked and killed our former semi-capitalist system from the 80s. That’s why they wrote ACA, why prices rose 10%pa for 10 years before and after, and why their stocks spiked when it passed. So you wouldn’t be providing health care, you be providing free profits. Which is the same as now, but without a fake pizzeria out front for the organized crime money laundering all the policemen know about. Considering what health care has been doing since 1990, that may even be more efficient. I’ve never seen anyone waste resources like they do.

    But more important, if they did print money, bail out, ACTUAL health care, or ACTUAL people, those small individual people would immediately trade for resources. That is, time, bandages, medicines, lawn mowers, roof shingles, and as those people get paid, everything else: steak dinners, nice dresses, Mexican vacations, heavy shoes… What does that mean? $10T in INFLATION. So?

    So if you hand $10T, or most of it, to a few insiders like Zuck and Bezos and Gates, they DO NOT BUY anything. They hoard it and use the added leverage to tell people what to do. Like kill themselves by the thousands in Gates and Bezos’ case. NO inflation. = System goes on and does not die. = No one is mad, or at least not as mad as if you HAD destroyed the system like Argentina.

    This is why you can only bail out the few and not the many. Because if you bailed out the many with the many, you’d have pulled yourself up by your own ankles. Bailouts, governments, billionaires, can ONLY ever TAKE money from the majority and give it to their own minority selves. With a slick con job over top. How could everyone take from everyone and everyone get rich? If we did that it would be free trade and a voluntary market, that is, capitalism. Least-bad, least-expensive, most efficient, and what they can’t stand, not controlled, chaotic and unorganized as the people it’s made of.

    So of course the point is well-taken: it’s about priorities. We buy real military goods and suffer the real inflation and loss that creates. That’s literally what Eisenhower’s speech was about, and about the danger of this EXACT minority, a secret one according to Kennedy, that would do this, extract from the majority for their own power and to our own destruction, perhaps total. All I’m adding is the technical reason of why it can only happen in one direction, which is why you can never set up a system of government redistribution since it MUST and can ONLY be used this way. And that recommends therefore smaller governments that do NOT print money for health care because not only won’t they, they mathematically can’t. 2nd law of thermodynamics. No free lunch. Europe you say? Which only pays high services with very high taxes, and only because they use our multi-billion military force for free.

    So as they print $10T (already) it will again double over every time period, so $20T by June, $40T by December and so on until that money finally reaches the people, which is the only place this black hole of compounding debt could actually ‘repair’ the economy. When it does, we will have all that backlog of inflation, and the system will stop because they broke the only rule: money can only be redistributed FROM the poor. Bailouts can only be for the few, the rich. But it needed to end and I’m not sorry to see it go. This lesson that everyone cannot live at everybody else’s expense and that we live and eat through work, are only the best possible reasons to turn.

    Maybe then we can all work, all get the fruits of our labors, and all understand that no one prospers by theft. Til we do it all over again.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 24 2020 #57836
    Dr. D
    Participant

    D Benton, you’re ahead of me, I hadn’t thought of that. If WHO issues the passports, they can make and break Kings, and in a clever, king-advisor way.

    “In our filing we will make clear that Dr. Bright was sidelined for one reason only — because he resisted efforts to provide unfettered access to potentially dangerous drugs, including chloroquine, a drug promoted by the administration as a panacea, but which is untested and possibly deadly”

    Okay, that is their allegation, I will read them in court. However, I feel they have problems. Unless administration officials were furious in their pursuit of this — and generally they buck and oppose him at every turn — even head Cheeto only said, ““It’s a powerful drug on malaria, and there are scientific works on this. Some strong signs,” “What do you have to lose?” he said repeatedly, at one point adding: “If it does work, it would be a shame if we didn’t do it early.”

    So he said “there are signs” “”It’s not going to hurt people,” (because it’s been constantly prescribed for 50 years) “We don’t have time to go and say, gee, let’s take a couple of years and test it out.” Meaning we have to work quickly, and also that he’s sent this lead to the FDA and Medical wing for rapid testing. Which is happening, not just here but worldwide. And given this, one of the few medical leads, the prosecutable medical malpractice is indeed to NOT try it, even in a hurry you wouldn’t ordinarily take.

    That’s a million miles from “Unfettered access” (i.e. no prescription), “potentially dangerous” (not when used by a doctor, in a hospital the only use that has been proposed), or as a “Panacea”, literally, a drug that cures everything. It is not a cure for cancer, it is a treatment for Covid that may work safely only for some patients and excluding some conditions. It is extremely, excruciatingly well-tested, and is only as deadly as garden-variety prescription drugs that require ordinary monitoring. So I think you have a difficult case to prove and you’re not helping it much by starting page one with essentially complete nonsense and misrepresentation. But we have a system and that’s their right to pursue this. Especially in public, as the spotlight on these fellows is not salutary.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 24 2020 #57819
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Pdf, long, listing contrasting Covid numbers:

    http://mileswmathis.com/covid.pdf

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 24 2020 #57818
    Dr. D
    Participant

    So….again, China has zero, but just locked down a city of 10 million last night? For no deaths. Uh-huh. And that appears 24h after the U.S. tries to open and puts pressure on us to remain closed. When the U.N. says 250M people will die if we do?

    Lots of pretty strange things there.

    So…since they claim there is no immunity and thus no herd immunity, the CV numbers are falling anyway? Somebody in a white coat want to explain that? Because y’all make no sense.

    Japan and Turkey which did not lockdown, are identical to Germany and U.S. who did. U.K. who locked down late, locked down AFTER they already peaked. Sweden has been removed from the chart. So…anyone want to Science for me here? Y’all make no sense.

    Americans Prioritize Staying Home, Worry Restrictions Will Lift Too Fast (CBS)”

    What is this telling us? Based on science that makes no sense, reported by a media which not only doesn’t make sense, but lies and contradicts, which then mis-informs the peoples’ opinions. So this is a chart of how convincing the narrative is. Why would I care? I want truth, not popularity.

    And it’s also dumb because 100% of the people are ALREADY going to public places: Wal-Mart, so say nothing of Dictitorial Mayors nationwide going to Salons every week. That is, it’s the PERCEPTION of quarantine as more than half aren’t doing it enough to be worth the name. Again, don’t care about perception. Perceptions don’t stop viruses. I know the people THINK they’re quarantining, but medically, they’re not. It’s a joke. Humans are just like that. And also why we survive and succeed constantly although dying all the while.

    Doctors Rethink Rush to Ventilate (R.)”

    We killed the U.N.s 250 Million people because they said we had to lockdown because there weren’t enough ventilators. Because, if you’re just respirators, we have enough/far more of those. And even not knowing this, only 5 of 20,000 were used? So…Cuomo, Fauci, anyone, want to explain how you were all off by orders of magnitude? 20 million. 2.5M people. 200k. Still looking. Well at least they’re looking in the right direction, at the blood and the Co Fe Fe Oxygen bonds.

    .infected more than 2.6 million Americans with nearly 20,000 deaths as of 4:30 pm Thursday.” Worldometer, as I write this, says 886,000 infections and 50,000 deaths.”

    Okay, first is 0.7%, second is 5% death rate. However, Cuomo’s NYC testing yesterday said that 2.5M had antibodies in NYC alone. So SURELY the other 90% of the nation had multiples of that many. Dropping back to 0.1% again? Lower, I’m sure but whatever: their own numbers now demand it be way below 0.7%. While that’s higher than the (reported) flu, it’s not 5%.

    House Passes $484 Billion Coronavirus Relief Package (Hill)”

    Good to see some Republicans, and AOC actually get on record opposed, as suspected she was lying on voice vote before. What to do, I don’t know, but if everyone agrees, certainly no one’s thinking.

    Fed Balance Sheet Increases to Record $6.62 Trillion (R.)”

    The Fed is now an agent bank for the Treasury. That means the Treasury will own half the assets in the economy. That means the American People own the corporations instead of vice-versa. I thought you wanted socialism and the government to own the means of production. Now they do.

    So when they go bankrupt, what then? Nothing. The assets still exist. You sit down, do a debt restructure, and refloat the assets. Assets owned by whom? The people. Just like the 1991 Swedish bank takeover. If only the Marine Generals had gotten a high-profile bankruptcy expert into the White House this could all be sorted out.

    Lawmaker Who Thanked Trump to Face Censure Vote from Michigan Democrats (JTN)”

    Black Democratic Georgia official said he was voting for Trump and was forced to resign yesterday. Best of all worlds as not only do they get the press, they get the DNCs violent reaction and string of racist DNC comments against him.

    Ousted US Health Official to File Whistleblower Complaint (R.) “

    Can you retroactively file? Every person fired needs to get on this immediately. But what am I saying? No one can ever get fired from a Federal job, not even if they watch pron all day and it’s reported everywhere(SEC). In any case, last whistleblower Charlie they just changed the rules, then tampered and back-dated the forms after working closely with the Congressional opposition, as a basis for illegal impeachment and that was all good. No one arrested. Ever. For anything. Amen.

    Wonder how this will evolve when food gets scarce.”

    We already know. Russia and other nations have stopped wheat before last year. No one cares. No interest in grain elevators, rail lines, and are feverishly attempting to stop the spring’s planting.

    Larry Summers reminds me of Harvard’s recent fiasco, and how he lost a Billion dollars for them. The more you fail, the more you rise. If only he’d lost $100 billion (to his pals on the other side of the trade) AND a felon he’d be promoted head of the IMF. Right, LeGuarde?

    Steele Testified Emails Were Wiped, No Docs Related To Primary Source (DC)”

    You so cray-cray. Newsflash: NO emails are erased. Ever. They’re with the NSA if not elsewhere too. Like HRCs and Strzok-Page are. Weiner’s laptop. No one arrested. Ever. For anything. Amen. Want impeachment? Impeach for gross dereliction of duty.

    Upton Sinclair’s 1927 book “Oil!”,”

    This is the alpha and the omega of it. They’ve done it again, destroying everyone in the U.S., and they cheer yet again, being bought off with $1,200, less than the Manhattan Indians. Save us Daddy government, you’re our only hope! Otherwise we’d have to work and take responsibility for ourselves. We would keep our work instead of getting $1k and losing $17k.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 23 2020 #57814
    Dr. D
    Participant

    I didn’t read it that way. V. was kidding. Haven’t you ever played the circle game? Made you look. Why’d you hit yourself? It’s what boys do. That’s why it’s called ball-busting.

    Yes, the intense and orchestrated hatred of HCQ is very telling. Suddenly no one wants a cure! They delight it will go on forever! Pretty odd, don’t you think? So the one study (France) they said they could only try patients who had gone round the bend and were dead anyway. Guess what? They’d gone round the bend and most died. The other one, they carefully removed zinc from the test. You know, like removing flour from the recipe and wondering why it doesn’t rise. See? Failure. Toldya. The only solution is a vaccine they patented last November about the time the CDC precognitively hired a slew of quarantine experts, but after Gates Corona-Italy test game. See a pattern here? And a vaccine in 6 months – you know, AFTER the mail-in election — against something that 70 years of trying has always failed at, FROM a guy who routinely kills +10% of all recipients with the cure and is wanted in 3 countries. Can’t make it up.

    But this is about HCQ. Did I read correctly that they have demanded quinine, a HCQ predecessor, be sharply reduced in grocery store tonic water? Now that’s some serious hatred there. So. Why? If it doesn’t work, what’s the motive?

    Escobar’s headline fact is telling. However, the article seems to devolve into cross currents. So we trust China’s timeline implicitly, but the Pentagon is lying? No silly: they’re BOTH lying. How about we knew it because they knew it? Anyway, this would support Day’s theory, which I can’t sign onto mostly because I haven’t researched enough about Ft. Dietrick timeline. Also doesn’t men the ADMINISTRATION caused it, as clearly the Admin/Pentagon is constantly fighting the shadow government/CIA. Goes back to prime question, if now they know they we know that they know, why didn’t China blame us originally? Foremost and odd.

    Raul’s not reading to keep his own mind is probably what saves me. We often disagree and I’m not nearly nice enough about it as a guest. But what fun would it be to politely equivocate? Just don’t ad hominem pointlessly. Better to be forthright and just let the ideas speak for themselves.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 23 2020 #57750
    Dr. D
    Participant

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/heres-how-much-downstate-new-york-is-skewing-the-united-states-coronavirus-numbers/

    https://static.pjmedia.com/trending/user-content/51/files/2020/04/Top25MetroAreas-1024×576.png
    PJ

    Just like gun violence, subtracting unnatural metro areas from the 3.5M sq. miles of the rest of the 3,000 counties and you’d have no outbreak and no crisis. But this is 100% of the time, if a leaf blows in Brooklyn, 3,000 other counties have to take it in the rear. So, basically, The Hunger Games, with Caesar Flickerman showing us his ice cream collection while we are beaten and starve. Why point it out? No different from every other day. No one cares. 30,000 people could die for decades and it (was) considered a net positive, richly deserved. But clearly, clearly WE need to sacrifice to keep Caesar Flickerman and Effie Trinket safe in their $20,000 suits. Especially when you live where there’s 19 people per square mile. Gotta lock down! Keep that distancing! Dudebro, you have NO IDEA what distancing is til you’re so far away even the cell towers don’t work. You can’t walk to the next house even if you wanted to.

    Flick
    https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.NI_dBtLxvW8aGHMTL7xxUgHaEo

    But don’t worry! We’ll fight Coronavirus to the last Flyoverman! Remember, each NYer is provably worth 1,000 Americans! For every New Yorker who dies, 1,466 Americans lose their job! (22M / 15K) D—n them! We’ll keep unemploying flyover people and bailing out globe-flying billionaires until this madness stops!

    “The state,” he told me, “should not smooth out your life, like a Lebanese mother, but should be there for intervention in negative times, like a rich Lebanese uncle.”

    That’s hilarious Taleb, when has that ever happened? They’re more like an abusive uncle who will rape you if you fall asleep. If it’s “Antifragile” with firebreaks, then don’t apply Brooklyn’s solution to the 47 states who are smaller than NY Metro. Hey, doesn’t that INCREASE the fat tail of 1% owning 50% of the pie? And their total, catastrophic, unending lack of “Skin in the Game” by idiot sons of idiot sons?

    “infection rate is much lower! Well, not if the death rate is also much higher.”

    Still have no numerator AND no denominator. And no other stable facts either. 5 months on. Explain? To me that means there is NO science happening, only politics. And if that’s true, then what’s happening?

    “Many Small Businesses Say Loans Won’t Get Them to Rehire (AP)”

    That’s obvious. There hasn’t been a bailout in my lifetime that didn’t screw the recipient. Look at HAMP. This is beyond how money and rules to Amazon have ruined local business more than usual this month.

    Congressional Democrats Do Little To Improve ‘Pathetic’ Coronavirus Deal (IC)”

    Dore is all over this. First bankrupt the small, then hand 95% of the trillions to the super-wealthy to buy the small out for pennies. Same as 1934. They do have a good point that, if this bailout was badly written, why would we rubber-stamp Part II? I say since the government hasn’t helped small business in 100 years, and 100% of the time end up hurting them instead, accidentally or on purpose, why would we have the government do anything except enforce the law on Amazon, Fargo, Wal-Mart, and Boeing? The small would do just great if you arrested a felon every 20 years or so.

    “Trump Disagrees ‘Strongly’ With Georgia Reopening Shops (JTN)”

    That is pretty weird.

    “Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar told President Trump the coronavirus epidemic was under control.”

    You’re fired. Along with the CDC and WHO. Oh wait, ANOTHER set of tests are contaminated, that were replacing the THIRD set of tests…that were also contaminated. Funny ol’ world how 100% of tests 100% of the time are accidentally bad. It’s almost like it’s on purpose. Nah. I’m a coincidence theorist and that is not suspicious at all. Meanwhile, small on the ground hospital tests were working in a week.

    Nobody’s buying and nobody’s selling [cocaine]”

    They’re cutting off the black money to the Derp State.

    “Achieving this requires first containing the pandemic.”

    Again, no it doesn’t. YOU closed the economy. YOU caused the problem. We have barely a blip above normal deaths. So you CAN just ignore it and open the economy too. I don’t know if that is smart or dumb, but YOU are the only actor here, not the “economy.” …And by “economy” I mean government, since it was strictly government who FORCED the economy to fail. So think about that while you’re calculating supply, demand, pointy-head stuff. “low-income countries are at risk of a crisis that will dwarf anything.” So millions in low-income countries will die, you say? Way, way more than the virus would have? YOU did this. And therefore YOU can un-do this. But you won’t, you claim it’s an asteroid strike. I say we put you in a trebuchet and launch you into aforementioned “low-income countries” so you can clap you in ankle irons, hand you a shovel and you can help undo your own damage to them.

    New York Times Revives its Role in Chinagate (Lauria)”

    Well, the NYT isn’t news, so… I don’t know who would listen to them. Elvis and Batboy? People who like to lose their 401ks on their exclusive election polls?

    Over 20 million people are jobless bc of this virus and our government is doing almost nothing to help them”

    This ses it all. 20 million people are jobless because of the GOVERNMENT. The government by definition is NOT helping them. They’re the ones who attacked and destroyed them. As per 100 years. And you want more of this? More power when Orange Hitler is in charge of the handouts? What will it take for them to stop worshiping government, dictators, and experts? Nothing apparently. They will come up, explain how they will die, pull out the gun, ask if it’s okay, put it to their head, and shoot them. The government then turns to the next guy who saw it, ask him if he’s still in favor, he says yes, and the government shoots THAT guy voluntarily. On and on down the line forever. i.e. NOTHING can EVER wake them up. There is no POSSIBLE action that can lead to discredit and the re-claiming of your power and withdraw your consent from psychopaths. Why? Because then you couldn’t be a victim, take self-immolating orders, and live in eternal fear from birth to death. You’d have the far scarier problem of freedom and deciding for yourself. Never! Just shoot me. “Don’t give me Liberty, give me death!”

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