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ParticipantHere is the best article I have found discussing the real knowns and unknowns of Ebola transmission, particularly among primates. A lot of chimps had to be euthanized because they were getting Ebola virus from each other in separate cages of a research facility. It appeared to be aerosol transmission.
The CDC is breaking ranks between the scientists and politicians here. It’s important.
I defer to those interviewed here. They have direct knowledge.
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=1John Day
ParticipantThe US Army is putting up a concertina wire perimeter and building a field-hospital in Liberia, experiencing weather and equipment-failure delays.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2782856/Is-fence-people-patients-U-S-troops-set-Ebola-field-hospital-Liberia-start-barbed-wire-perimeter.html
Also in this article is information about the cameraman with Ebola. Ashoka Mukpo is the “son” of Chogyam Trungpa, who made a big impact in the West, bringing in Tibetan Buddhism, linked to sex, drugs, rock and roll.
Scroll down for lots of pics of “Trungpa Rinpoche”. Ashoka’s “real dad”, still alive, is a physician whose heart sank when he heard his son tell of the fever.John Day
ParticipantHi Ilargi,
I don’t see how the 15 year mortgage is a bad deal, unless something is misrepresented here.
The interest rate starts low, and is reduced by 0.5% for every 1% of purchase price put into down-payment.
This is not pre-payment of interest, as portrayed here, but interest forbearance, which must be paid by some entity, likely governmental.
This makes sense if such entity wants to increase prices in the lower end of the housing market, while the Chinese billionaires are losing interest.
It is sure easy for news stories to misrepresent the actual situation.
It could be a trap.John Day
ParticipantThanks Raleigh,
I put in a lot of responses on yesterday’s post, pretty late, I know, and I tried to break them into topics. The link to the graph of time from exposure to symptoms is very useful. About 90% are symptomatic by 10 days.
What is very interesting is the novel twists that viruses can take.
Hantavirus is a good example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hantavirus
I worked in Chinle Az. from 1990-1992, and visited in 1993, when this weird pulmonary syndrome was killing Navajo people, and fast. I talked to my doctor friends at my hospital and the referral center.
The case was not cracked until a Medicine Man was consulted, and he said, “The mice are thirsty, they are going to the houses”.
Hantavirus, always transmitted through rodent excrement in Asia, was discovered to be excreted in the urine of thirsty mice, who were going to houses to find water in the drought. Their urine dried, aerosolized and was inhaled, suddenly killing people as their lungs became inflamed and filled with fluid.
I’ve had 28 years as a doctor, and in a lot of different settings, and I NEVER think I know all the details.
None of us should think we know about this strain of Ebola until we have a good answer about what happened in Madrid, with transmission in a very carefully prepared (not respiratory isolation, though) hospital.John Day
ParticipantWhether “Ebola” can be transmitted as an aerosol is really an open question, based upon conditions. “Ebola” is not one virus, but this new strain behaves very differently from prior strains. Aerosol transmission between sick piglets in a cage and chimps in a separate cage across the room has been demonstrated.Even without the droplet nuclei of a sneeze, aerosolized particles are created in everyday life. This article about “government lies”, by a Criminology Prof. has a lot of good details about aerosolized viruses. https://www.globalresearch.ca/ebola-outbreak-the-latest-u-s-government-lies/5405584
It also contains the seldom mentioned information that this virus has no direct antecedents, and regression analysis of the mutation rate points to a first human contact in December 2013. This virus has covered a lot of ground since then, unlike all other Ebolas. Doubling every 3 weeks (hypothetical) means it will infect 8 billion people next June. Of course there are limits…
So, Sumac.Carol, I don’t believe that there is an excess of fear about this.
My independent medical analysis is that this is a direct threat to every human. Exponential growth is not something we are wired to understand, except through studied rational processes.
I do agree with the CDC that America (and everybody) remains threatened, as long as this virus persists in Africa.
Donating to Doctors Without Borders is the best form of self-protection that I can see right now.John Day
ParticipantI’m going to keep these replies bite sized.
Raleigh,
Yes, I agree that the response in Dallas has been an embarrassment, and with poorly reasoned snap responses.
Putting a bunch of people in an apartment without food, not all even directly related, and stationing ungowned cops outside, was a Dallas Police Department level of professionalism (ie, low).
The self-quarantined people in Dallas have clearly been directly and repeatedly exposed to an active Ebola patient and his bodily secretions. God bless them for their responsibility.
Diablo,
Having clean-up workers with their isolation gowns rolled to their elbows (photo on Zero Hedge) and a guy on the sidewalk in street clothes pressure spraying Ebola vomit onto a pedestrian in sandals (also ZH photo) was par for that course. Vaccines don’t always work, and they take a lot of time to ramp up. Flu vaccine is big business, and probably a bit less effective than taking 2000-5000 units of vitamin D daily (adult dose interpolated from 1200 U/d pediatric dose in 2009 Japanese study). I was a (healthy) volunteer for an AIDS vaccine study over a decade ago. Still no AIDS vaccine…I do not know how the initial snap judgement was made about who to quarantine and who to let run free was made, but it was clearly made before collecting enough information.
that’s understandable. Why was it not revised? There are so many errors here.
Now the quarantined group has been moved to a house in a gated community, where they are not open to such embarrassing scrutiny.John Day
ParticipantThat graph link seems to work.
About 90% of people are symptomatic within 10 days of exposure. 21 days is something like 5 standard deviations from the mean, by the looks of things.
3TC/Lamivudine , TKM-Ebola and brincidofovir, which is being used in Dallas, on Thomas Duncan, all take the place of a nucleotide in a DNA or RNA chain, which is like a zipper, and one side allows the other side of the zipper to form, then separate, then it all happens again.
These drugs mess up the zipper function, so the viral RNA or DNA (Ebola is RNA) can’t replicate, or replicates with big warts and has the wrong shape to work.John Day
ParticipantHi Raleigh, I’ve now looked at and replied to your post from yesterday. Back when this was “blogspot” I got e-notifications of replies. Not now. I would appreciate it if you would look at what I answered there. This link should go to a graph of presentation of Ebola symptoms over time.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ufVgUj86eAg/VCtqvM1hQPI/AAAAAAAABA4/0MkpQD9HmGw/s1600/Ebola%2Bonset%2Bdistribution.JPGJohn Day
ParticipantThanks Raleigh,
I’ve now looked into that use of 3TC/Lamivudine, and it is similar to TKM-Ebola and this new one brincidofovir, that Thomas Eric Duncan is getting in Dallas. They all work by screwing up the RNA “zipper” that recreates RNA and DNA chains to trick host cells into manufacturing evil virions. My email is (without spaces) days abroad @ g mail . comJohn Day
ParticipantA Spanish nurse in Madrid, who helped care for a Spanish priest with Ebola, entered his room twice. He died September 25. She has now been diagnosed with Ebola, and has a high fever. That puts an end to the proposition that Ebola is “hard to catch”. This Ebola epidemic is of different character than all prior outbreaks.
There are statements that it is not transmitted through airborne aerosols, but they are not proven at all. Aerosol transmission is the explanation which fits best with the information about this gowned, masked, goggled and gloved nurse catching Ebola.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-06/spanish-ebola-infected-nurse-first-case-contagion-out-africa-salzburg-activates-ebol
How long until this gets rationally discussed in the mass media?John Day
ParticipantHi Guys,
I’d like to put in an Ebola update, with some interesting medical treatments and public health considerations, but it doesn’t seem to be working out.
The military has an IV treatment that is a broad spectrum antiviral, but the therapeutic range is in the same ballpark as the toxic range, and all we get is mouse data. Anti-estrogens seem to be pretty good, have been around for decades, and could probably ramp up faster than most of the other things. TKM-Ebola is still the front-runner as far as I can see, and I suspect they have been looking hard at mass production since March.John Day
ParticipantGood work, Raleigh!
October 5, 2014 at 3:30 am in reply to: The US Dollar Is About To Inflict Carnage All Around The Planet #15563John Day
ParticipantAnd who in this world shall own what in this world, after the plague?
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It’s a real question, and I don’t think anything but time can answer it.October 2, 2014 at 1:41 am in reply to: Debt Rattle Oct 1 2014: Europe Is Crumbling Into Collapse #15485John Day
Participant@ Raleigh,
Yes, I think this Ebola epidemic, doubling numbers of cases and deaths every 3 weeks, is a really big deal, and it is a crisis, which I don’t expect to be “wasted”.
We are well past the point of real economy, where exponential growth of debt-based money can be supported by anything other than smoke, mirrors and bubbles.
The financial elites know this.
The reset will involve a really big crisis, and wars are riskier when they get THAT big. Also, there is no resource cornucopia to claim after the war.
Ebola, as a wave of pestilence akin to the “Black Death”, can come from everybody’s blind spot, but still hold a fear, which lies deep in our genes.
Who could foresee the bank burning down with all those people in it?
Just be glad you made it out alive.
Nobody changes power-structure in a plague, or a fire.
The power structure remains intact through the transition.
Fire is risky, nonetheless.
Sun Tzu’s “Art of War” considers it the most powerful and unreliable form of attack.
Maybe I’m playing fast and loose with my analogies, but all year there have been hints of WW-3 from this, or great threats from that, or beheadings on TV.
I think pestilence just took a big lead in the race to be THE crisis for the biggest economic reset ever.
It’s growing exponentially, so you can tell if I’m right or wrong pretty soon on the time axis.
I’d guess before Christmas, but certainly before April Fool’s Day.
Here is something really good about Ebola in this “age of overshoot”, by Mary Odum, an RN and ecologist and seriously analytical human being.September 30, 2014 at 10:37 pm in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 30 2014: Why The Fed WILL Raise Rates #15447John Day
ParticipantEbola Shot JR in Dallas today.
The traveler from West Africa, visiting family, was sick out-of-hospital from 9/26 to 9/28, it seems.
I expect that a lot of emergency measures will be put in place by the end of the year.
(Hopefully less severe than in sierra Leone, but the framework is in place)
This may be worse for the economic status quo than Lehman, eh?
The power structure won’t let this crisis go to waste.
Certainly worse than a cold winter…September 27, 2014 at 3:43 am in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 26 2014: Can Money Save The Climate? #15366John Day
Participant@ Jeff Jelton and Variable81
“Pursue truth, not money” works.
Wherever your heart lies, will be your treasure also…
We all work in various contexts, and allocate energy and resources to what seems most worthy.
We pursue what we see as most important, and deal with the rest as is necessary/practical.
The last new car we bought was a minivan in 2008, when the kids were little.
13 year old Toyota Corollas in good condition are what we look for, now.We have to engage with all the valid points being made about capitalism, and high-energy lifestyle, and our own responsibilities and options. It’s like sorting through drawers when you move. It’s 100 times slower than anticipated, because every little detail is magnified in consciousness, paralyzing us.
We can move, but like digging up the rows in the garden, it takes soo much looonger than anticipated. Things that seemed clear a few years ago are vastly more complex and engaging than I thought, and take years full of seasons to figure out.
We are actually effective on the scale of tending a garden, but it is so much more complex and engaging, because it is the scale we are really suited to.
I got my Fall garden in before the cool snap and rains, here in central Texas.
The plants are all happy. The magic is working. I’m engaged. The universe is helping.
I have to do the work, but the plants grow.September 22, 2014 at 5:00 pm in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 21 2014: What Game Is Being Played With the US Dollar? #15305John Day
Participant@ Raleigh and V. Arnold,
Thank you for understanding my intention in writing this essay.
I continue to struggle with my compassion practice today, since it is not some abstraction of cruelty which faces me.
Those consumed with this insatiable cruel hunger are very hard for me to even envision.
Certainly, this leads to vast torment for them.
I hope that I have been respectful and not done harm in this writing.
It has certainly come from an anguished heart.September 22, 2014 at 4:06 am in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 21 2014: What Game Is Being Played With the US Dollar? #15300John Day
ParticipantI will present a hypothesis that our natural masters, the ruling/royal class, is a separate breed, with distinct and secret characteristics, which are identifiable, but not easily so.
Agriculture began in the Mideast, Tigris-Euphrates valley about 7500 years ago. Before that, we were hunters and gatherers, and caught some fish, too.
Before agriculture, everybody had to hunt and gather, though we can envision a few tool makers, or physician types in a group.
Groups were fewer than 100-200, where group connections break down and lead to factionalism. We didn’t need much structure, and we didn’t need rulers, and those things were unaffordable, anyway.
Some of the waves of human movement are described here, as they relate to Europeans, and Asians.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29213892Once agriculture, with surplus grain to store for several years, increased the size of our groups, and our stable connection to specific places (farms with water-sources), we needed more complex social organizations, to prevent a lot of small blood feuds from breaking us apart. Alcohol as a storage form of food probably contributed to the fights, killings and taking sides.
In stable feudal societies, a minimum of 4 castes is needed: Farmers, Specialists of all types, from doctor and toolmaker, to trader, musician, weaver, thatcher, etc.
Soldiers become necessary as one group discovers them, raids another group successfully, and all other groups adopt martial structures in defense.
Warlords become necessary, as the capacity and proclivity to kill have to be governed by giving the right to kill to only one man. Nobody else gets to kill group members. (It reminds me of the “wisdom of Solomon”, as portrayed in the tale of the two women who both claimed a baby as their own. He ordered the baby cut in half, and half given to each of them. This had to be a believable response from King Solomon. It was his unquestioned prerogative.)The minimal 4 social groupings are what existed in Feudal Japan:
https://shogun2.heavengames.com/articles/history/the-caste-system-of-feudal-japan/
The Japanese of Samurai families carefully trace their lineage. Samurai Japanese are “a different breed”, and they look different from the peasants, and they have different drives and personalities. They specifically married for prowess in killing and ruling. They had to be cold, effective, strong, swift and smart. They had to be disciplined and rigid in the battle, not prone to break ranks, for certain death lay there.
We know that half the men in Asia have Genghis Khan’s Y chromosome, which was a fairly recent mutation when Genghis got it, maybe a couple of generations old. It’s pretty prevalent outside of Asia, as well.
We know that the ruling families of Europe carefully intermarried, but ruthlessly killed peasants and soldiers ruled/owned by those family members.
There continues to be a lot of attention paid to these blood lines. There were only a very few women who Price Charles could marry to produce royal heirs. Princess Diana was the most obvious, and he had to await her coming of age. She produced heirs. She became embarrassing. She died in a car accident.Not all lines of power have been carried down through marriage. The Catholic Popes may have often had children, but not openly. They were absolutely as ruthless and instrumental in wielding war powers and carrying out genocides as any king, and in many cases, they ruled the kings and kingdoms, though they had to come to this apogee of power.
We know that the Cathars, who self-referenced as “good people”, were a Christian sect, who did not recognize the power of the Catholic Pope, but said that he was head of a church that served the evil god, basically “Satan”.
Here is a description of Cathar beliefs:
https://www.cathar.info/1201_beliefs.htm
Pope Innocent had the genocide of the Cathars carried out.
“Kill them all, The Lord will recognize his own”, originated in that conflict against the vegetarian, pacifist Cathars, who were loved in their communities, and not turned-over by their neighbors. Their neighbors also died by the sword.We can see how the line of kings has been carried, and carefully selected for, and the ranks of “nobles”, fed into it, as a level of selection, but how has the line of Popes been selected?
How do other elites bond together in ways to be more powerful than hereditary kings and nobles?
What characteristics allow them to recognize each other, and how can they possibly keep from breaking ranks in battle, when they are not even in the same country? What can reliably bind them together in relentless, concerted action?In “The Prince”, Machiavelli looks at effective traits in a ruler, and observes that fear is more effective in assuring allegiance, than is love or admiration.
Effective rulers quickly and openly eliminate anyone who doesn’t comply, or is even suspected of having different thoughts. Stalin was like that.
Vlad the Impaler was a defender of the (Catholic) Christian faith, against the Ottoman Turks, and also delighted in the cruelest acts of torture, forcing mothers to cook and eat their children, husbands to eat their wife’s breasts, then torturing all to death. The number of impalements under his order may have been 100,000, and he decisively turned back or slaughtered massive Ottoman forces on multiple occasions. Many towns and cities were burned with all inhabitants. Acres and acres of impaled dead were his signature. He was a good Catholic of his era. (Prince Charles is his descendant.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_ImpalerI have not answered the questions I posed about how elites may recognize and rely upon other elites when far away.
We can recognize how Vlad was set-apart in his effectiveness by his absolute thrill in killing, killing, killing.
He was extremely effective in devising ways to kill massive numbers of people, cavalry or families.
He used these horrors to make himself more effective against those who he horrified, much as the Texas Rangers did later, leaving crucified Mexicans along trails, or the Romans did previously, the same way.
His love for, and talent at killing massive numbers of people, without tire, marks Vlad the Impaler as an absolute elite monarch, though he did profess loyalty to the Hungarian king and the Pope, which enabled him to hold and regain his desired position.
He was betrayed by the Hungarian king, who had spent the money himself, which he had raised to fund Vlad’s wars, then blamed the loss on Vlad, who he imprisoned for awhile. This happened when Vlad was down-on-his-luck after some well funded sustained campaigns by forces of the Ottoman Sultan.So we can see what the talents of hereditary kings may be, and we see that they are not the masters of Popes, though Henry the 8th was far enough away to start his own church, and was seemingly cut from the same cloth.
What breaks down here is the question of how these very cruel and selfish people might effectively work together at a great distance, and over time, without breaking ranks.
Truly, they are much stronger if they do not break ranks, and this is an ancient conundrum for power elites.
We see that royalty held certain customs, not killing other royalty, though they did very often betray each others’ interests, as in the case of the German Kaiser and his cousin the Russian Tsar, the “Willy-Nicky correspondence”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Willy%E2%80%93Nicky_CorrespondenceThis brings us to the topic of Secret-Societies, which are truly ancient, and about which we have all heard rumors of the most disturbing sorts. The members of powerful secret societies seem to have held ranks, and therefore held power, effectively for at least hundreds of years, and were feared by the founding fathers, though some also held memberships in these elites, such as Freemasonry, which has many levels of membership.
Modern politicians need not be trusted much by their financial masters if the masters hold information to end the political career of the politician. Assassination is always a back-up plan, but not generally necessary. Bill Clinton must have crossed somebody for the Monica Lewinsky scandal to come to fore, but he must have mended that fence, too. There was worse that could have come out, like his use of the Arkansas National Guard in the Nicaraguan drugs for arms for hostages deal, though he coordinated that with George HW Bush, so it’s not really fair-game. (Scroll to “Mena, Arkansas”)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_traffickingTo truly trust the other member of the evil-elites, does there need to be “honor among thieves”?
Not if the membership in the secret society has severe enough tests, the passing of which mark a man (still mostly men) as somebody who is vile and revolting, as was Vlad the Impaler, or the Marquis de Sade.There is a membership test to pass, and it does not involve answering questions.
Potential members enter the test facility secretly, not knowing what the test is, but knowing that they are driven to be members at the top echelons, having moved up through lower ranks, desiring the power and prerogative of the elites.It is very difficult for me to tell you the test, which is revealed below in a video interview with a Dutch woman, who was ritually raped and tortured as a child, mostly by adult men, including her father, uncle, grandfather, the family doctor and the town Vicar. She and her sister grew up in a family which practiced this, and were members of a community of practitioners of these ritual acts, including very high elites, one of whom is named in a setting worse than I have yet described. I will get to that later.
In the test, this girl was stripped naked and manacled upon a table, while a metal speculum was put in her vagina by the doctor. She was stimulated to orgasm, as she had been many times before, always linked to torture and humiliation.
The test subjects stood naked in this castle in the forest, watching this.
One did not get an erection, and a trap door opened beneath him, dropping him into a deep pit, where he died.
The second part of the test involved the other men penetrating his dead body rectally, necrophilia, also requiring an erection.
The candidate who could not perform at this level was not killed.
He got to have sex with the girl, but a special knife has been placed in her vagina, and it cut and disfigured his penis when he did so.
This is the “test for freemasons”, which she most painfully describes, yet it is not the worst that Toos Nijenhuis has to tell.
Her interview is here, and you can scroll to it, and see what she goes through to give this testimony.
The written text (not her interview) about occult practices of the Jesuits and every Pope for the past 250 years includes secret Vatican documents, and testimony from more survivors. Both Pope Francis, and former (Nazi) Pope, Joseph Ratzinger are directly implicated in the most ghastly horrors by eyewitness-victims.
https://2012thebigpicture.wordpress.com/2014/08/17/eyewitnesses-testify-pope-francis-raped-and-killed-children-sealed-vatican-documents-expose-their-satanic-rituals-video/
The International Tribunal Into Crimes of Church and State website is here https://itcs.org
There are lots of entries with lots of testimony and there are lots of human remains, especially of children.
To investigate a few of these stories:
I did look into “Mass grave, Taum” to see about the 800 bodies of dead children hidden on the grounds of a Catholic Church home (prison) for unwed mothers and their children in Taum, Ireland, a town we rode through in 2005 on our family bike tour. The investigation of the mass grave is out there, but the newspapers are not looking this one step deeper.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/13/mother-behind-galway-childrens-mass-grave-story
The Daily Kos posted the story of the 28 mass graves of Native American children in Canada, many at the Indian schools they were forced to attend. It is being treated as an act of genocide, and is not much noticed in major media after that, except by the ITCCS, which is very small and poor.
https://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/04/15/496538/-28-Mass-graves-of-Indian-Children-in-CanadaWhen one of these elites doesn’t “program” a long-term child victim adequately, nor murder the victim, and the victim goes public, the ring-member may be killed by other ring members. There is circumstantial evidence that this is how Nicole Kidman’s father, Dr Antony Kidman, a wealthy Australian Clinical Psychologist, just died in Singapore.. He had left Australia and his 43 year career, when his living victim, Fiona Barnet, made public accusations, and a criminal investigation was initiated. He died on “White Balloon Day”, an Australian day of remembrance for childhood victims of sexual assault.
The horrors described by this long term victim, especially what she saw done to other children, mirror those in the other reports.
https://worldtruth.tv/nicole-kidmans-father-dies-amid-pedophile-child-murder-ring-allegations/
Here is how the UK media treated the story.
Judge the many pictures of the deceased for yourself.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2753136/Nicole-Kidman-s-father-killed-accident-Singapore.htmlI have been exhausted and deeply troubled yesterday and today, seeking how I might best present this horrific information about our earthly masters.
Tom, Colleen, and Cat have provided the kernel of this news, and it has resonated with what has come to my knowledge since the 1970s in various ways. I specifically recall a profoundly disturbed young woman with multiple personalities, who I admitted to Big Spring State Hospital one weekend in 1988 or 1989, and got to see more of subsequently, as I worked further weekends as a weekend-doctor at that facility. Multiple personalities are sometimes a result, and sometimes a goal of ritual abuse of children.My current view of the situation in our world, and the actions of elites, slaughtering millions of humans again and again and again, are cast in a different light, when I see behavior which seems like a perverted quirk, may actually be a core feature of power elites, which enables them to treat other humans as a herd of animals, and can actually give them intense pleasure in culling the herd.
The function of reducing human numbers has repeatedly been important since we became agriculturalists. We have grown large populations in good times, and needing a solution for the starving multitudes in years of sustained famine.
We see that before the collapse of Mayan civilization, the cities were starving, and the rulers made war on other cities, capturing the people to cut their hearts out in sacrifice to the Sun God, to bring better harvests and rain.
It was far removed from Europe, and a completely separately evolved agricultural society, but the herd-culling behavior of the ruling elites is chillingly similar.
The games of death which entertained them are like the games in Rome.There is not a way to identify and kill all the people who bear these traits, is there?
Only a bearer of those traits could excel at such a task, and would need helpers…
What we see is that there are competing groups of elites, with similar traits.
Vlad the Impaler fought for Christendom against the armies of the Moslem Sultan of the Ottoman Empire.If we look at connected groups of power elites, we see that the West includes countries bound by dollar-based economics and the American military/NATO/Israel. Tied in with this cabal are the oil producing monarchies like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, and so on.
China is a separate group of elites. The “Dragon Family” did not die out when the last emperor died. The “Dragon Family” is a going concern.
Russia has oligarchs, as does Ukraine, but there is a disruption from the European royal linkages for the past 100 years. Russia is separate.
Iran is separate, and has a different banking system, as well as an ancient culture.
India, the richest country in the world 300 years ago, is in play, playing now with the American empire, and recently playing with the USSR, even starting to play with ancient rival, China.
Other regions, such as South America are vassals, but would certainly change associations, if it could be painless.We are at a historical juncture with a vastly bigger human population than ever before, and the oil that fed us through mechanized agriculture is suddenly expensive.
Monsanto owns the seeds and is destroying all other options as fast as possible. Somebody owns the water, and it is running out. Cargill owns the meat. Tyson owns the chickens.
We see the wars being waged for control of oil, and gas, and economic control.
Each of these corporations holds some aspect of what each of us requires to survive each day. They all hold powers of life and death over us.
Each of them will act in selfish interest, every time.
Corporate entities were designed to perform the functions of ruling elites, with as much of the same value system as can be openly revealed, and with no person standing accountable for the actions they take.
They are patterned on the British East India Company, which gutted India, and scared the American colonists into revolution.The actions I can take myself are few and simple.
I need to become less and less dependent upon massive corporations to feed me and those close to me, through the coming times.
I’m growing a garden, learning to grow food, and what food I can grow and how much (little), and what that means we will still need. It’s a path that will take time.
I bike commute, and I work in my garden, and that’s good for my body, but I definitely experience my (very modest) limitations.
I still rely on Empire to enable my work as a doctor to the not-wealthy, which is a quirk of the current imperial workings.
I remain embedded, as do my wife and children, in all the aspects of financialized economy: insurance, higher education, water, gas, electricity, taxes to fund wars, etc.
I pray for enlightened awakening of all humans.
Jesus said to “Love your enemies”, and he practiced that as he was horribly tortured to death, by people who probably relished the experience, and certainly taunted him.
Now, knowing what I know, I am working on the opposite of selfishness and sadism.
I want to be as good as the Cathars were.
I now find my path through Buddhist practice, but I don’t think the specifics are nearly as important as the proper intention, and the rightness of the match between path and person.
Finding a group of like minded seekers, who practice together, is a great help.
Taking a step or two is a start, and then other stepping stones become visible.September 21, 2014 at 1:48 am in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 19 2014: Scotland and the Spirit of Our Time #15281John Day
Participant@ Raleigh
Mark Twain is still the great American writer, and one of my teachers in life.September 20, 2014 at 2:45 pm in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 19 2014: Scotland and the Spirit of Our Time #15279John Day
ParticipantWar, Slippin’ Into Darkness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFSWW4O6QNM
Rulers don’t “get” the Zeitgeist (spirit of the times), but it gets them.
Zeitgeist gets everybody.
We are all together in this deep perception/creation of our ongoing world.
It’s a lot of perceptual change to embrace our togetherness, not our separation.
Once we deeply embrace that knowledge, feeling compassion and fondness for all (even Draghi and Yellen) of our confused, clownish co-conspirators, then we can be of benefit.
We can help co-create a more engaged, communal world awareness.
No more us-vs-them “solutions”.September 19, 2014 at 3:33 pm in reply to: Russian Union Of Engineers Accuses Ukraine Airforce In MH17 Crash #15259John Day
ParticipantTruthout has an excellent scholarly article, which looks at the stages between colonialism and genocide.
In colonialism, something like slave-labor is needed from the underclass.
In genocide, only their property is desired, not their bodies.
Numerous instances are given by the university professor author.
Colonialism in India was at one end, and genocide of Native Americans (ongoing in South America) at the other end.
Palestinians have been getting run through this ringer, from one end to the other, and genocide is now becoming preferable to Israeli elites.
Lots of labor can be brought in from other countries, and sent back at any time, as is being done.
Humans are a commodity.
https://truth-out.org/news/item/26254-the-political-economy-of-israeli-apartheid-and-the-specter-of-genocideSeptember 18, 2014 at 9:57 pm in reply to: Russian Union Of Engineers Accuses Ukraine Airforce In MH17 Crash #15239John Day
ParticipantExit polls predict “NO” takes it 54% to 46%
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/seize-opportunity-salmond-232155199.html#iAq4l7OSeptember 17, 2014 at 5:32 pm in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 15 2014: The Yin and Yang of Growth and Power #15189John Day
ParticipantIn complex systems, higher levels of order can arise, as long as there is excess energy to drive them.
Now as the energy is being withdrawn, we can’t support all the higher levels of order.
Feudalism was not as bad as it was made out to be, and could exist with agricultural level energy supplies.
Scotland and Catalonia will have to work things out, as will we all.
I suspect currencies will simplify again.
I’m growing a garden, bike commuting, helping my adult children and praying/meditating that “we” awaken as “I”.
It’s all my practice. Mental only goes so far.September 15, 2014 at 2:52 pm in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 14 2014: Draghi To Save Europe With Semantics #15155John Day
ParticipantObama and the CDC will step up and start sending US aid and doctors and nurses to treat Ebola.
https://www.firstpost.com/politics/obama-works-to-steps-up-ebola-aid-what-does-the-latest-effort-mean-1713563.html
Cuba may do better, and sooner.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cuba-sending-medical-teams-to-fight-ebola/September 15, 2014 at 2:19 am in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 14 2014: Draghi To Save Europe With Semantics #15149John Day
ParticipantOops, wrong link and I can’t find an “edit” option.
September 15, 2014 at 2:17 am in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 14 2014: Draghi To Save Europe With Semantics #15148John Day
ParticipantWow, that “Rupture” piece is really beautiful and true and powerful.
Thanks Ilargi.
Ebola doubling cumulative cases every 22 days reaches 8 billion in early 2016.
that isn’t stated here, but the rate of doubling and the time to “get this under control” being 18 months, means that “control” is achieved when the virus has spread everywhere.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-14/former-bp-ceo-warns-sanctions-will-bite-west-us-gives-majors-14-days-wind-down-russi#comment-5217568September 11, 2014 at 2:19 am in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 10 2014: Crisis And Self-Determination #15080John Day
ParticipantThis MH17 summary from Pravda is well organized, to-the-point and as complete as any I have seen. It’s very well condensed.
https://english.pravda.ru/world/ussr/09-09-2014/128484-boeing_crash_report-0/September 11, 2014 at 2:10 am in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 9 2014: The Black Swan Of Scotland #15079John Day
Participant@ Professor LocknLoad
It’s that false flag anniversary time of year again, and it gets me thinking about what plot comes out of our present milieu of heavy foreshadowing.
This has a certain assymmetric elegance, and it puts the fear in the “right place” to instill obedience and looking the other way about what happens next door.September 10, 2014 at 2:16 am in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 9 2014: The Black Swan Of Scotland #15063John Day
ParticipantAs threatened:
False Flag Ebola Suicide Bomber, The Movie:Lately we have been seeing lots and lots of emerging scenarios, which could justify war, and all running at the same time.
We have the situation in Ukraine, set up by the US at great expense, and with at least 6 years of lead time (according to Wikileaks files just released https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-09/ukraines-choreographed-civil-war-revealed-wikileaks ). MH-17 initial report is so vague as to be readable as consistent with an antiaircraft missile attack, and we already know better, but this is all we get until the full report comes out next summer https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-09/mh17-was-struck-multiple-high-energy-objects-outside-aircraft-crash-report-reveals
China is feeling her oats as a rising superpower, and it is how China has self identified for the past 3000 years.
The South China Sea thing could need a war for that deep oil and gas. Justifications are being laid. Poor Philippines; poor Vietnam (bitter irony); poor Taiwan and Indonesia.
Really, really in our faces are those beheadings and mass slaughters by ISIS/ISIL/IS.
Joe Biden says we’ll follow them to the gates of heck, or something.
Those guys are so totally bad that they would do anything, and anything we would do to kill all of them is a necessary service to the whole world.
The Saudi King said they would be attacking Europe in a month, and the US in 2 months.
Where did these guys come from, nightmare world? They are like al Qaeda with a Freddy Kruger mask!
Then there is Ebola, which makes you die painfully and slowly with fever and bloody diarrhea, and bleeding from your eyeballs, and it comes like a thief in the night…Imagine you are Dick Cheney.
Ok, ok, that’s a bit too much to ask.I have an idea for a made-for-TV-movie that’s an edge-of-your-seat, suspense thriller-diller.
Here’s the story line:
ISIS really, really wants to hurt the US, the great Satan, for decades of destruction, but can’t get nuclear weapons, or any way to get them into the US.
Ricin doesn’t go very far, and would only kill a few people, like in that Japanese subway thing.
ISIS needs something undetectable that won’t show up on airline scanners, but that can still kill millions of people if they get it into the US.
Hey, Ebola virus would work, and somebody could volunteer to be an Ebola suicide bomber, or even not volunteer…
You get some guys from western countries, secret volunteers for ISIS, like we hear about, and tell them they have a secret mission.
Some guys go to Washington DC with lots of money and have unprotected sex with 4 prostitutes a day until further orders. Unlimited ATM card, It’s for Allah.
Other guys go shoot heroin 4 times a day, drawing up twice what they will use, flashing a little blood back into it when they hit the vein, injecting real slow, then saying it’s too strong, and leaving the half full syringe on the table while they crawl to the corner.
Like Lee Oswald, these guys can just think they are establishing cover identities.
Before they fly to Great Satan Land, they need a protective injection, a vaccination IV.
The trick is, that it is pooled plasma from Iberian Ebola patients, frozen and flown over.
By the time they get sick in 2-3 weeks, still establishing their cover identities, they could easily have infected 100 denizens of Washington DC.
They would have infected the folks most likely to further infect others.
These guys could even be shot in an alley when they get sick, before all the bleeding.
That would get some infection going in the coroner’s office. Ebola would never be suspected.
Who is the first to figure it out? Who breaks it to the American people?
What emergency measures have to be taken, to assure the continuity of government?
Who must be brought to justice for this unbelievably heinous perfidy?
Who gets nuked?
Who gets quarantined? Where? Where do we put all those potentially infected people who had sex with prostitutes and used IV drugs in Washington DC?
Where do we put everybody who they live with?
Where can our elected representatives and top civil servants and military leaders go to safely carry on the work they must do to bring us through this crisis?
Nothing must stand in the way of that mission!
Where do treatments come from to protect us, and those masks, and rubber gloves, and goggles, and isolation suits?Anyway, it’s just an idea for a made-for-TV-movie, but who could turn it off once they got into it, huh?
It pulls everything together, doesn’t it?
You don’t even need any big name actors. It’s all in the plot.
Do you know of anybody who could fund a project like this?September 9, 2014 at 7:42 pm in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 8 2014: Please Scotland, Blow Up The EU #15054John Day
ParticipantI appreciate the attention to my contribution.
Indeed it is hard to settle conclusively on one human failing that outshines the rest.
The graph from the Wikipedia site (linked by Carbon waste life form above), which seems most informative to me is the semi-logarithmic graph of Ebola cases and deaths over time.
In this format a straight line is a consistent exponential increase.
The first few months were smaller numbers, and likely had a lot of sampling error.
By June this had become a straight rising line, as Ebloa became established in cities, with human to human spread predominating.
(Next, what if there’s a false-flag-Ebola-suicide-bombing-attack-on Washington DC for the 13th anniversary of 9/11? 😮 Dick Cheney)September 9, 2014 at 2:42 am in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 8 2014: Please Scotland, Blow Up The EU #15046John Day
Participant“The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function.”
https://www.albartlett.org/presentations/arithmetic_population_energy.html
Professor Al Bartlett famously made this statement at the beginning of a lecture he gave over 1700 times, beginning in 1969, about the problem with exponential growth of resource use in a finite world.
It applies to taking out a loan with interest, and things like that, too.
I see it applying to the current Ebola epidemic, which is growing exponentially in urban areas, away from tasty fruit-bats, having established a human-human transmission, which now makes it extremely virulent.
If the number of cases doubles each month, we will be up to 8 billion cases in 23 months, August 2016, less than 2 years away.
It is really easy to discount that, and we are powerfully inclined to discount it.
Ebola has never done that.
This is a very different Ebola, a new situation, completely.
This will be contained in Sub-Saharan Africa. It is really remote from Europe, Asia and the Americas.
Containment efforts in Africa may mean stopping all trade with Africa. If nobody leaves Africa, ever, that will be effective. The ability to enact such a stringent quarantine will probably lag the spread of human carriers, who have up to 3 weeks of active infection before they get sick. Politically and economically, the flow of (wealthy) people and oil out of Nigeria is really going to take a crisis in the West or East to stop it. It will have to be a bit too late already.
Medicine outside of Africa is much better and more sophisticated, and will defend us.
This has been worked on with US military funding, for at least 12 years. We have Zmapp, which is mouse antibodies to Ebola, grown in GM tobacco, and given as IV. That won’t be ramped up in anything like the time we have, nor will it be possible to administer to everybody who gets sick in our world.
Vaccines are being worked on.
Flu vaccine gives about as much protection from influenza as taking vitamin-D, maybe a little less. https://www.worldhealth.net/forum/thread/99358/vitamin-d-proven-more-effective-than-bo/?page=1
Antiviral drugs are being developed. HIV has given us a lot of experience in that field.
The time to develop antiviral drugs is fairly long, and certainly began over a decade ago. We don’t really know where the progress may be on this, but there is nothing proven to work, and if there was something that worked, the business folks would have it out there front and center in the news.Plague was a scourge of Europe, Africa and Asia for a couple of thousand years, possibly linked to the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, and still infecting people in Madagascar, and is endemic in rodents worldwide, including the US. There was a pretty big outbreak in Vietnam, during the war. This is now treated with doxycycline and Cipro, since it is bacterial, not viral.
The longer history of Plague may be more instructive for our current situation. Economic ruin and starvation traveled with Plague, and Plague traveled with ships. https://www.cdc.gov/plague/history/This BBC article actually begins to take a broader look at this new Ebola, and implications. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-29060239
Once there is viral spread within a human population, not just from a reservoir host like fruit bats, the virus has already mutated to do this trick. Further mutations to facilitate spread in the new ecological niche will be strongly selected for.
They will thrive in us. The latency of up to 3 weeks will be strongly selected for, since it thwarts our efforts at containment, “Stealth Ebola” drops the bombs and moves on before there is any sign at all.
The fatality rate may drift down, and there may be sustained viral shedding after recovery, which is being seen in semen samples of recovered men.
The fatality rate is about 50%, which is well within the range of prior Ebola outbreaks. We can’t really make the call for reduced fatality rate yet. We will all be watching that, I’m sure.I propose that we should expect to see Ebola virus in our cities, and that no defense will be ideal, and that it will spread globally within the next couple of years.
I’ll be happy if I’m wrong, of course, and viral mutation could lead to a more benign variant being predominant, but how benign will Ebola ever get?
Measles and Smallpox killed about 90% of North and South American people when the Europeans brought them over. More recently, there was an 80% reduction in the population of the Hawaiian Islands, when Captain Cook’s contact led to the introduction of measles. These were old viruses, which had co-existed with humans for a long time, but were still extremely deadly, and brought wholesale change to the social orders of these societies.September 3, 2014 at 1:55 am in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 2 2014: This Is As Big As We Will Get #14960John Day
ParticipantEllen Brown looks at the Fed’s “last bullet”, giving M1 (cash) to the bottom 80% to boost the retail economy. (Maybe it could forestall the collapse-part-2 until after November)
September 3, 2014 at 1:18 am in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 2 2014: This Is As Big As We Will Get #14958John Day
ParticipantCharles Hugh Smith has a good post on the current end game in corporate buybacks to enrich inside-sellers. It hasn’t been this big since 2007.
Things are really hollowed out.
https://www.oftwominds.com/blogsept14/corp-America9-14.html
And here is a delightful 2009 article about Russians farming their Dachas for more than half of their veggies. It never went away, got bigger after the collapse of the USSR, and keeps growing because it is healthy, efficient, self-organizing (and maybe wonderful).
It’s bad for business, of course…
In 1999, 35 million small family plots produced 90% of Russia’s potatoes, 77% of vegetables, 87% of fruits, 59% of meat, 49% of milk — way to go, people!August 28, 2014 at 10:24 pm in reply to: Debt Rattle Aug 28 2014: EU Gas Supply Is In Real And Imminent Danger #14873John Day
ParticipantNATO posts pictures of Russian self-propelled artillery in Donetsk/Luhansk, claiming it proves that Russian soldiers are in (the artist previously known as) Ukraine.
Russia says that no Russian troops are there.
The self-propelled artillery is being used by the Donetsk Army to shell the attacking Ukrainian army.
Those are the same self-propelled guns that the Ukrainian army uses. They all came from Russia at some time.
Maybe some did come recently. I sure don’t know, but it wouldn’t be surprising.
It’s not “invasion”, is it?
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-28/nato-releases-satellite-imagery-proof-russia-has-invaded-ukraineJohn Day
ParticipantNATO is like Cujo these days, the most heavily armed rabid dog ever.
Could Bardarbunga go off big enough to give us some non-war emergency, big enough to get us all on-board behind our shadowy puppet masters?
I’m grasping at straws, and willing to pray to the aliens, if it will help.
August 19, 2014 at 12:35 am in reply to: Debt Rattle Aug 18 2014: Oh, What A Tangled Mess We Weave #14695John Day
ParticipantThe Right Sector in Ukraine wakes up after the meth and booze wear off, and decides not to march on Kiev after all.
https://euromaidanpress.com/2014/08/17/right-sector-will-not-march-on-kyiv-withdraws-ultimatum/August 16, 2014 at 4:02 am in reply to: Debt Rattle Aug 15 2014: Conditioned To Catch The Falling Knife #14632John Day
ParticipantHere’s something as reliable as the hackers who dug it up. (I wonder who they are.)
It’s an email thread of some really shady Ukrainian government/military guys, and at the end it gets into the shoot-down of MH-17. The lead up to that is fascinating/sickening, too.
I’ve gotta’ wonder if this is a way for Russia to leak something they know, while maintaining a plausible cover story.
https://themillenniumreport.com/2014/08/hackers-learned-who-shot-down-boeing-in-ukraine/John Day
ParticipantJolly John (John Jolly?)
The graphs of all the miles driven by Americans were sorted out on Zero Hedge last winter, as I recall. It’s out in the ethersphere somewhere. Americans are driving slightly more of fuel efficient vehicles since 2008, but overwhelmingly, they are driving fewer miles.
It looks the same to me. I bike commute 28 miles on a work day, and live farther, but cheaper.
We’ve been helping our 4 kids with higher education in recent years. It’s down to 3 this fall, but some emergency always jumps up, too…
I find that I think a lot differently about batching tasks than I did 15 years ago, when I just drove everywhere.
I still drive sometimes, but not to work, and I batch tasks when I do decide to use a motor vehicle.John Day
ParticipantSo Gravity,
You are saying, if I may paraphrase: “I think, therefore I am, It’s free, and I am all that I imagine”.
Is that a fair summation?John Day
ParticipantRaleigh,
The really big area for improvement here is outlawing antibiotics in animal feed. The vast use of antibiotics in factory farming is part of a really horrific scenario, anyway.
It was discovered in the 1940s and fully verified in the 1950s, that antibiotics in feed increase weight gain for the same calories in. It was proven repeatedly to work for humans, too.
Individuals can help themselves by keeping their gut flora “microbiome” healthy and diverse, being active, eating fresh plants, and maybe taking 2000-5000 IU of vitamin-D daily, especially in winter, or if they never get much sun.
We should all think more of supporting life, than trying to battle death.
That’s my professional opinion. It’s free. -
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