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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle July 27 2021 #81091
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    Re: saline vaccines. I don’t believe for a minute that anyone close to the levers of power received a covid vaccine. Period. They know better.

    It’s possible, and even likely, there are different versions of the vaccines being injected, hence the tracking of lot numbers for each person to evaluate results. It’s possible some vaxx were saline, but I think it’s more likely some were “regular” flu vaccines so people would get some symptoms from the shot, thus keeping the side effects narrative relatively stable.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 27 2021 #81086
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    @oxy: ” … but shit is getting so up-close and personal so fast.”

    This is an astute observation. I remember reading many times over the past decade++ that the collapse is already happening (yes, we all know that) BUT … many of us live at a good distance from the collapsing edges and don’t experience it directly so are watching from afar. But as time goes on and the edges decay inward, it gets closer and closer, engulfing more and more segments of the population. That we’ll get to feel it first-hand when it reaches us.

    And here we are, with an exponential acceleration in the past 18 months. Are we having fun yet?

    in reply to: A Tale of Two Narratives #81079
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    Agreed, Raul. This TAE Summary post deserves its own space. Thank you!


    @John
    : I’ve mentioned before that I don’t know how TAE Summary does it. Some posts are literally jaw dropping. The humorous side to posts are also a welcome relief. I’d like to know the secret, too. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 27 2021 #81075
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    @polder: “Get vaxxed? Doomed if you do and doomed if you donโ€™t.”

    That’s funny. Also sadly true.

    I found many of yesterday’s comments interesting. Madam/Bosco is allowed to be whomever he/she wishes. No biggie. If you don’t like someone’s comments, don’t read them. We have a choice.

    John Day’s description of keys and key rings was bone chilling. Also very well done and undoubtedly true, at least for the time being. This synthetic bio mess will blow up at some point in the future because the human body can’t take it. How soon? Anyone’s guess. The result? Not good.

    Veracious: Thank you for the suggestions. I’ve done a lot of self reflection during my life, yes it’s painful, but I haven’t spent much time thinking about ego’s role. Worthy of exploration.

    ctbarnum: good to see you back more! ๐Ÿ™‚ Also great to hear you’re able to receive health services without a vaccination, and good comeback on the doctor stating the “technology has been around for 20 years”. Way to shut someone up. lol

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 26 2021 #80984
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    @Dr D Rich. Truly sorry. ๐Ÿ™

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 26 2021 #80980
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    Valid concern about the profit motive of these vaccines, @those darned kids, but my problem with the vaccines is that we skipped past most of the critical steps of accepted new vaccine testing procedures and now act like that’s completely normal when you’re rolling out an entirely new vaccine technology that hasn’t been used in humans. That’s the part that’s bothering me just a bit.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 26 2021 #80979
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    @Raul, the problem those darned kids is having is the one I was having the other day with trying to prove I wasn’t a spammer bot, which was a “numbers adding” process that I tried many times and it didn’t work. Same thing – add the numbers – but there would be only one number lots of times. Even with two numbers (say, 14) it didn’t accept an answer of 5.

    In addition, when I closed my browser and revisited the site later it made me login again (I did check the “keep me logged in” box when logging in but it wouldn’t take).

    Oddly, the problems happened only for a day or so then disappeared without me clearing cookies or doing the things darned kids has tried. I use Firefox, if that’s helpful.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 25 2021 #80904
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    @russell: “If it does come to violence so be it but focusing on that leads to a paralysing fatalism that is a hindrance rather than a help.

    Jesus. I wish I could have stated it this well. Hat’s off, russell. Well done.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 25 2021 #80903
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    Hi WES. Always enjoy your stories. Thank you. ๐Ÿ™‚

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 25 2021 #80902
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    @Veracious
    @Maxwell

    Perhaps I’m alone in this thought, but if you guys have spiritual experiences and input to share, please do! This is a tough time and any spiritual “shoring up” from others is appreciated.

    As far as I can tell to date, Raul doesn’t censor comments. If others on here aren’t into your spiritual input they can scroll past it.

    I, for one, would value it. I imagine there are others on here who feel the same way.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 25 2021 #80896
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    @Archie: nothing we do from here on out is going to “scale up to a global population” at the size it currently is, much less when considering exponential growth.

    “We can all become mystical, spiritual nomads living off the land. Thatโ€™ll teach those mother******s!”

    No. We can all do the best we can with the tools we have now, the tools we can find and implement in the near future, and the tools we can pass on for future generations to use. That is all we can do.

    Kinda like Carlin said (paraphrased) … humans think they will destroy EARTH?

    Quite a humorous thought, isn’t it? Damn, the hubris we humans have. Earth will be fine. Impart whatever tools and wisdom you can in the here and now. The youngsters will do the best they can in the future.

    As it is and ever shall be …

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 25 2021 #80895
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    @Veracious: Just this afternoon I had an hours-long conversation with a person that laid bare portions of the child ego in both of us. This was openly admitted on my part (literally used that language) and vaguely admitted by the other person.

    “That which is born from flesh is flesh, and that which is born from The Spirit is spirit.”

    “But alas, we live in a time where the child EGO reigns, addicted to approval, always lusting for the next dealer du jour to appease the dark mind.”

    True.

    Thank you for your post. Thank you for sharing.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 25 2021 #80890
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    @Mr House: “I hope that every soda you order is flat.”

    Ha ha ha … that is one of my major life concerns right now. Especially considering I don’t drink soda. But there is my concern that the seltzer I drink with vodka might be flat. Hmmm ….

    Your CHASER isn’t quite so humorous. Too much of that happening. Since *when* have we seen people in their 40s and 50s having strokes and heart attacks that lead to death? I’ve seen this on the local syracuse website as well. It is not at all amusing.

    Perhaps Democritus can enlighten us. I’m sure there must be stats from previous years on adolescents experiencing heart inflammation at the level we’re now seeing now [post-vaccination] that will prove this is not a problem to worry about. I’m also sure there are stats of people in their 40s dying from stroke and heart attack that will definitively prove there has been no increase in that in Q1 and Q2 2021.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 25 2021 #80883
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    Yesterday @veracious posted “Tucker is the 21st centuryโ€™s Thomas Paine & heโ€™s laying it all out for everyone to see & hear” and provided a link to one of the “Tucker Carlson Today” shows.

    I subscribed to TC Today (access is subscription based). When he rolled it out I signed up for 7 days free (3 shows uploaded/week). Based on the first 3 shows I decided I wasn’t interested and went to cancel. Got an offer for like 20-25%% off an annual subscription so did it.

    Each show is about an hour. Tucker asks questions, pays attention to answers, asks follow on questions. He does a good job and it’s great to hear more than a 45 second soundbite from intelligent and interesting people. Some of the guests so far include:

    Jimmy Dore. Brett Weinstein. Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Niall Ferguson. Glenn Loury. Archbishop Charles Chaput (he is thought provoking). Dave Portnoy. Dr Peter McCullough. Marjorie Taylor Greene (congress). Ron DeSantis. J.D. Vance (I didnโ€™t care for Hillbilly Elegy but found him personally interesting).

    Highly recommend Tucker Carlson Today based on what I’ve seen so far. I hope he keeps it up because this show is currently a gem. And I gotta kinda tip my hat to Fox for allowing Tucker to do this. How many MSM stations are allowing Dr Peter McCullough to talk for an hour??

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 25 2021 #80881
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    @russell
    @polder

    Re: protest outright vs protest by ignoring and just living life. You both make valid points. ๐Ÿ™‚ My initial feeling was in agreement with @russell, but then I started thinking about what happens in the future if we don’t speak up now in response to this blatant trampling of our rights. And that picture was not pretty.

    We need both forms of protest. We should all be participating in one or both forms to the greatest extent possible. One form does not preclude the other, ay?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 25 2021 #80875
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    @Noirette: excellent summary. Thank you. This sentence is spot on: “The threat to the public was switched to the more non-detectable, terrifying micro-organisms, as these are not static but kinetic, they multiply, and travel, on their own.”

    And since we can’t see *the enemy* those in power can concoct whatever story they choose and drub up stats to support it.

    in reply to: Rage Against the Vaccine #80872
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    @democritus: “It is similar to previous vaccines in that it it creates an immune response in the body.”

    Ok

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 25 2021 #80866
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    Btw, the daily headlines are getting laughable. I have to check the source for at least a few of them thinking they must be the BBee (they aren’t). The level of hysteria among the drug pushers is amazing to behold.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 25 2021 #80864
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    Yesterday @my parents posted this on Rage Against the Vaccine:

    “Oroboros- when they donโ€™t really know, theyโ€™ll bs. I thought this about Snowden- what he did was make us all think they have everything or can get everything if they want– this made it so they could accuse and we would believe them because they had the data. Do they? Really?”

    I think this is an important observation. Believing the “all knowing tech giants” are gods among us is … interesting. And incorrect, in my opinion. Banks, health insurers, credit card companies, electronic medical records, etc., etc., are incapable of keeping their data properly sorted, correlated, or secure. But these tech giants and alphabet soup gov’t agencies are somehow able to sort through every last detail gathered on hundreds of millions of people and do something with that information?

    Right-o, then!! Kinda like how all vehicles will be self driving in … three, two, one … um, er, any day now.

    Believing in the “universal rounding up and control of all the sheeple through the use of technology” is damaging. We need to stop feeding the beast with our thoughts.

    in reply to: Rage Against the Vaccine #80863
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    Re cell phones. Also turn off any “tracking” app (usually can’t be uninstalled unfortunately) and turn off wifi and turn off “phone and location tracking” apps. Also turn off any “feeds”, etc. etc. It’s not a fail safe because who trusts any tech to truly shut off? But I’ve not been pinged once and I live in NY (and, yes, a tracking app was downloaded to my phone in an update, which I didn’t realize until I read about it on TAE).

    in reply to: Rage Against the Vaccine #80862
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    @Windlesham, welcome! Thank you for posting. Your situation sounds familiar. I think many more are going through this type of thing than we realize. I’m currently unemployed and looking for a *remote* job as I refuse to be vaccinated, tested or wear a mask all day at work. It’s a tough slog, competing with the world for remote positions, and hugely stressful. I feel your pain. You and your family are not alone so don’t fall for the headlines. We who protest with our personal actions are out here.

    I also mirror your concern for our little ones – I have very young grandchildren and I’m horrified at the thought of them getting injected. The world has gone stark, raving mad over this virus. If I hadn’t witnessed it first hand, I probably wouldn’t have believed it when reading about it in history books later.

    in reply to: Rage Against the Vaccine #80818
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    @democritus: “Generally with vaccines problems turn up soon after vaccination, not years later.”

    Are you able to tell us how this vaccine is similar to previous vaccines? If not, then how does “generally” apply?

    in reply to: Rage Against the Vaccine #80811
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    Irony: fear of breathing in a “novel” coronavirus results in people lining up to be injected with a “novel” man-made, synthetic mRNA product.

    in reply to: Rage Against the Vaccine #80808
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    @Alexander: I kinda like “prematude” better. ๐Ÿ™‚

    in reply to: Rage Against the Vaccine #80807
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    I’ll chime in on vaccine choice. I have many vaccinated [close] family and friends. All adults so far, I think (hesitate to ask about their children). It’s an adult’s choice. But when the officials are pushing injection of children so they can attend school or participate in events, the gloves come off.

    These vaccines, or whatever they are, have ZERO evidence of mid- to long-term effects. There cannot be evidence of said effects because the vaccines haven’t been in use long enough to determine it. Period. Absolutely no one can argue that. It’s a fact.

    Leave the kids alone. Leave me, as an unvaxxed, alone.

    Vaxx yourself based on your analysis of personal risk, if that’s what you want. Boosters? Go for it, if that seems the best choice for you personally. This whole thing would not even be an argument if the vaccinated and public health officials would knock off the BS.

    For god’s sake – million dollar lotteries to get vaccinated? When in history has that been done??

    in reply to: Rage Against the Vaccine #80798
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    @Susan C: you naughty, naughty person, you! ๐Ÿ˜‰ Block that covid heretic, I tell you! Block her!!

    One of this past week’s featured obituaries on syracuse.com was a 54-year-old woman who died of stroke complications. She was a pharmacy technician for 30 years.

    If you don’t mind me asking, have you figured out how to reconcile NC’s massive distrust of big pharma (think oxy articles for example) with its massive trust of all vaccines? This never made sense. I no longer visit, haven’t for at least a couple years. But this glaring dichotomy was always apparent. It’s part of why I stopped visiting. When it came to the topic of vaccines, people with legitimate questions were instantly shut down on NC. Why?

    Something about taking the log out of your own eye before …

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 24 2021 #80796
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    @hex: “Washington โ€œLobbyistsโ€

    Serious lol on that. ๐Ÿ™‚

    in reply to: Rage Against the Vaccine #80793
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    It’s also pathetic that with the amount of money we pump into the CDC we’re forced to refer to studies from other countries instead of carrying out our own here in the US. Talk about the CDC (and FDA) and big pharma sleeping together for decades now … this current example is absolutely and blatantly disgusting.

    I haven’t been a fan of the medical industrial complex for decades. The current debacle has fully sealed the deal. I have no idea why anyone would trust any vaccine injection in the future. That’s how cynical I’ve become. I know Dr D said “don’t let them do this” but it’s too late, at least for me.

    Raul is right. “Rage Against the Vaccine” indeed. And it’s about so much more than the vaccine itself, as he so aptly points out in this post. Thank you.

    in reply to: Rage Against the Vaccine #80791
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    @Susan C: thank you for the comment. ๐Ÿ™‚ Now if only all these doctors would speak out publicly about their experience (not just comment on NC) and quote actual numbers. And publish their names. Until the “I must remain anonymous” to protect my job BS ends, this vaccine drama will continue to play out. To the detriment of our children, and that’s where I lose my patience and also my sympathy for these cowards. Speak out. Speak up. Don’t stop. Lose your job? You won’t be the first person who has lost a job due to speaking out on this vaxx. These medical professionals need to grow a pair. Yesterday.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 23 2021 #80737
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    @TAE Summary. You hit that ball right out of the park this evening (or whatever time zone each of us is in). Pretty sure the ball is being torched in outer space as I type. Well done.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 23 2021 #80736
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    @oros: “Too much noise, not enough signal.”

    There are plenty of signals. That’s why we’re twisting ourselves in knots on TAE. Don’t comprehend how others are ignoring it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 23 2021 #80733
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    We’ve gotten so enmeshed in the vaccine argument we’re losing touch with ourselves. Go hug a tree. Feel the grass. Listen to the rustle of the leaves in the breeze.

    Set aside the biblical connotation and simply contemplate …. “Be still and know that I am …”

    No need to bring god into the discussion and create debate. We just need to “know that I am”.

    No synthetic vaccine needed. Be strong and know that you are.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 23 2021 #80732
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    @oros: well done summary. All synthetic, created in a lab. My brain is fried tonight. This is just so sad.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 23 2021 #80731
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    @Archie: I am very sorry this man died. I think we should brace ourselves for more of the “compromised immune system” resulting in death following an mRNA vaccine. Our bodies can only take so much. When it’s had enough, it quits.

    Recently I mentioned the syracuse.com obituary about the 41 year old doctor who died unexpectedly, which you posted in full. Would she be dead without the jab? Very likely not. People are dying. It’s being lost in the noise.

    Tom should not have died. These vaccines were not tested in people with underlying immune issues because they were excluded from the initial studies. Yet here we are.

    And a child grows up without his father.

    I need to go connect with earth and nature. So sad tonight. ๐Ÿ™

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 23 2021 #80728
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    A short “PS” … being a “part of history in the making” hurts. Bad. There are brief moments when I feel as angry as Karl D, but that doesn’t last. It’s not my way. Mostly I’m sad and very, very worried. I care about people who have been vaccinated. I care about our children and grandchildren. I’m older, but I care deeply about the future for our little ones. They have done nothing to deserve this. I keep hoping we stay strong. I keep looking for signs we’ll do so (viva la France! Trash those vaccination centers!!). Hang in and hang on, guys.

    Thanks to everyone on here for the support.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 23 2021 #80726
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    @Oro: “… points being made by Dr Martin, one of which was that the toxic spike proteins that the โ€˜vaccinesโ€™ are forcing the host body to produce, were NOT from any naturally occurring virus material but are TOTALLY designed synthetic computer simulated chimera sequences.

    The mRNA contained in Pfizer and Moderna injections are synthetic. Produced in a lab from a computer simulation. I don’t believe there is any part of these two particular vaccines that are “natural” in the sense we understand natural. Perhaps this is why Dr Martin says that? (I’m not a biologist, virologist, doctor, scientist, etc … John Day might weigh in when he has time.)

    Since several commenters have mentioned the value of JHK’s podcast, I’ll set aside time to listen. Thanks all! ๐Ÿ™‚

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 23 2021 #80724
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    @Archie: that’s how they’ve gotten away with it so far. No *evidence* so no causation. A full autopsy should have been performed on every person dying within days of vaccination. It wasn’t done and probably won’t be done. But one can hope at some point … ?


    @userzeroid
    : “… we will have to be part of history in the making. It all seems too surreal.” Thank you for that insight. I hadn’t looked at it from that perspective, but it certainly helps explain the stress.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 23 2021 #80693
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    @sumac: “I have read pretty widely on Lyme and long-haul Lyme is shockingly like long-haul COVID.”

    Yes, it is. (first-hand experience)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 22 2021 #80593
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    I’m sorry, Raul, I didn’t mean to imply you were doing the booting. Apologies!! Just having a problem today that I’ve not had in the past. Probably need to update my browser or something.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 22 2021 #80577
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    Re: veracious. His comment today was in response to a comment I made yesterday in response to his comment yesterday criticizing everyone for doing nothing to stop any of this. Just to clarify.

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