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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle January 24 2020 #52973
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    The Coronavirus

    Didn’t you hear it?
    FLAP – FLAP -flap – flap
    Was it a butterfly or a black swan or a diversion or an excuse/exaggeration to do a drill/test of the response system
    Say bye-bye to Yesterday.
    Say hello to a different tomorrow.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 24 2020 #52972
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    How to become wealthy and powerful
    – use printed money/liquidity

    “The whole system is essentially a fake? And being system-wide and going back to the 90’s, it literally can’t BE unfaked?”

    “nobody’s checking the system. Nobody cares, so long as it expands and not contracts, so long as it wins and not loses. “

    Impeachment Gonna backfire. Even if innocent or – guilty
    Say bye-bye to Yesterday.
    Say hello to a diferent tomorrow.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 23 2020 #52948
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    Impeachment Gonna backfire.
    Nobody guilty of wrong doing.
    Nobody is lying.
    Everybody is holier than the pope.
    Rules, laws and regulations have been made by the lawyers, accountants and bankers so that even the worst of the worst incompetent and immoral can sleep peacefully every night.
    Capitalism permits everyone to find ways of become billionaires by any means outlined in the Rules, laws and regulations which have been made for that purpose.
    Look the part, act the part, of the innocent and you will remain at your elite status.
    Don’t forget to go to church and bow your head at the appropriate moments to demonstrate your humbleness.

    Impeachment – guilty
    Say bye-bye to Yesterday.
    Say hello to a diferent tomorrow.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 23 2020 #52944
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    ” The whole point was to turn borrowed Fed money into oil.
    The companies went bankrupt?”

    The owners, not the companies, are laughing all the way to the bank.
    There are over 3,000 orphan abandoned wells in Alberta, Canada

    Those owners will start a new company to cap those orphan oil well and send the bill to the gov./tax payers.
    Again ….. laughing all the way to the bank.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 23 2020 #52942
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    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-quarantines-second-city-experts-warn-its-already-too-late-stop-virus

    Here’s some more information on the victims, including the types of illnesses they faced:
    At least nine of those who died had pre-existing conditions such as diabetes, coronary artery disease and Parkinson’s disease. Eight were in their eighties, two in their seventies, five in their sixties and one man was in his fifties. The youngest woman was 48 and had a pre-existing condition.

    “As for the impact on younger people, according to current epidemiology and what we know right now, they really aren’t susceptible,”

    Therefore, avoid poor, old, sick people.
    Still no reports of sick people flying on private jets or from Davos.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 23 2020 #52941
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    Response testing still in effect
    More millions of people under siege/quaranteen
    Still no sign of spreading by private jets
    Still no reports of infections from Davos
    ——

    Schiff’s marathon ( senators must stay and listen. Only short bathroom breaks)
    …. Biden. He’s roadkill. (Sheeee! Don’t wake him up. There’s a favorite un-named waiting in the wing)
    a DNA test revealed Hunter to be the father

    —–
    ( see corrections)
    Boeing will not launch a marketing campaign to get customers airlines to get back on 737 MAX planes.
    United Airlines said Wednesday it does not expect to fly the Boeing 737 MAX this summer.
    ——-
    Boeing will get its share of printed money liquidity.
    The GDP numbers cannot afford a dip of 0.05%
    —–

    OIL AND LIQUIDITY

    This pushed the total debt LIQUIDITY listed in these bankruptcy filings since 2015 to $207 billion.
    Did liquidity find its way to THE SHARE HOLDERS

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 22 2020 #52919
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    “…..73 yo woman in our neighboring province (Nakhon Pathom), has the Corona virus.”

    Let us know how she got it ….. 73 yrs old WOW!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 22 2020 #52910
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    IMPEACHMENT DATA
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/22/hunter-biden-arkansas-contempt/
    Hunter Biden Ordered To Explain Why He Shouldn’t Be Held In Contempt Of Court

    An Arkansas judge ordered Hunter Biden on Monday to appear in court on Jan. 29 to explain why he shouldn’t be held in contempt for his failure to produce information about his finances in relation to a heated child support dispute.

    Independence County Circuit Court Judge Holly Meyer ordered Hunter Biden to appear to “show cause, if any exists, as to why he should not be held in contempt for any of the alleged violations of this Court’s orders.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 22 2020 #52898
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    HATE – SYMPTOMS
    Penalty: Kicking Trump out of office, removing his name from the ballots, barring Trump from ever running or holding any public office.
    “People are going to turn their backs on him just for this.”
    Good thing. Maybe we are seeing the flapping of the wings of the butterfly.

    In other new …. the testing of the response system to a pandemic seems to be progressing smoothly.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 22 2020 #52886
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    • New Coronavirus Has Unusually High Ability To Bind To A Human Protein (SCMP)
    Don’t worry.
    The virus doesn’t spread by private jets.
    This is only a test of the response time.
    Everything is under control.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-infections-climb-473-china-hong-kong-confirms-first-case
    No cases reported in Davos.
    ——–
    • Why Congress Must Keep Investigating Trump After the Impeachment Trial (Pol.)
    • Ukrainian Prosecutor Biden Pushed To Oust Heavily Investigated Burisma (RT)
    • Joe Biden’s ‘Conspiracy Theory’ Memo To Media Doesn’t Match The Facts (Solomon)

    (see my links from yesterday)

    It was suppose to be a secret memo. Why are all the media printing it.
    Its all lies – Biden

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 21 2020 #52874
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    ITS ALL LIES – BIDEN

    Joe Biden’s ‘conspiracy theory’ memo to U.S. media doesn’t match the facts



    The memo by Biden campaign aides Kate Bedingfield and Tony Blinken specifically warned reporters covering the impeachment trial they would be acting as “enablers of misinformation” if they repeated allegations that the former vice president forced the firing of Ukraine’s top prosecutor, who was investigating Burisma Holdings, where Hunter Biden worked as a highly compensated board member.

    Biden’s memo argues there is no evidence that the former vice president’s or Hunter Biden’s conduct raised any concern, and that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin’s investigation was “dormant” when the vice president forced the prosecutor to be fired in Ukraine.

    The memo calls the allegation a “conspiracy theory” (and, in full disclosure, blames my reporting for the allegations surfacing last year.)

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/20/biden-memo-trump-misinformation-101207
    By EVAN SEMONES

    01/20/2020 01:10 PM EST
    Joe Biden’s campaign issued a memo to media outlets on Monday warning them against spreading “false accusations” driven by President Donald Trump and Republicans against the former vice president.

    The memo, released a day before the start of Trump’s Senate impeachment trial, says there is “no evidence” for disproven claims pushed by the president that Biden sidelined a Ukrainian prosecutor who was investigating an energy company that his son, Hunter, held a high-paid position with.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/479052-biden-campaign-warns-media-about-spreading-malicious-and-conclusively

    Biden campaign warns media about spreading ‘malicious and conclusively debunked’ claims during impeachment trial
    BY REBECCA KLAR – 01/20/20 02:08 PM EST

    The Biden campaign said Trump’s efforts to spread the theory is the reason the president is being impeached and said it would be “malpractice” for journalists to reference the allegations without also saying that they’ve been debunked, according to a copy of the memo obtained by The Hill.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/biden-campaign-warns-against-media-use-trump-disinformation-during-impeachment-n1118681

    Biden campaign warns against media use of Trump disinformation during impeachment trial
    A campaign memo warns against the spread of “malicious and conclusively debunked” theories about the Bidens by Trump allies.
    Jan. 20, 2020, 2:01 AM PST
    By Heidi Przybyla and Mike Memoli

    In its first forceful pushback since impeachment proceedings began, the Biden campaign is demanding that “any media organization referencing, reporting on, or repeating these claims” from Trump and his allies “must state clearly and unambiguously that they have been discredited and debunked by authoritative sources.”

    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biden-warns-media-against-shopping-conclusively-debunked-ukraine-corruption-allegations-during-impeachment-trial/

    Biden Warns Media against Shopping ‘Conclusively Debunked’ Ukraine Corruption Allegations During Impeachment Trial
    By TOBIAS HOONHOUT
    January 20, 2020 9:02 AM

    Joe Biden has been insistent that there was no unethical behavior committed by his son while he was serving as point man for Ukraine relations in the Obama White House, despite countering claims of alleged corruption by President Trump and Republican allies.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/joe-biden-is-not-in-the-clear-on-impeachment-and-his-campaign-knows-it

    Joe Biden is not in the clear on impeachment, and his campaign knows it
    by Eddie Scarry
    | January 20, 2020 04:50 PM

    Joe Biden’s campaign knows that he’s going to be a casualty of this impeachment, and that’s why it sent out a warning to the national media, effectively telling reporters to be sure to clear him of any wrongdoing.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 21 2020 #52870
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    Learning opportunity test of critical thinking
    ” ….another 30-40 minutes of Schiff ”
    He is there so that I can learn how to make opinions and omissions, look like facts, data, proof.
    He, and other politicians are a specialized enabler.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 21 2020 #52860
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    Look!!!
    enabler
    Hunter’s personal lawyer and spokesman, George Mesires
    https://www.faegrebd.com/en/professionals/m/mesires-george-r#!#tab-Overview
    George Mesires represents clients in general corporate matters, including finance, corporate restructuring, bankruptcy, and distressed mergers and acquisitions. George advises principals, directors and officers on corporate governance, fiduciary duties and strategy in crises and/or sensitive matters.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 21 2020 #52859
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    • Davos Man Is Richer Than Ever (BBG)
    I read somewhere that the rif-raf entry fee was $25,000.
    ——
    Phlegm can be dangerous
    the coronavirus can be spread by human-to-human contact, and the deadly disease is spreading to other asian nations.

    Cough cough
    peaceful siege ….. USA go home ………

    ——–
    “As is always the case with share buybacks, the idea is to buy high in order to drive shares even higher. This is what you learn on the first day of Financial Engineering 101.”

    ” …. every dime in “cash” and “cash equivalent” listed on the balance sheet is borrowed.”

    Seeeee ….. That’s how you get printed money, that’s how you get a million $ pay check, that’s how the enablers for the elites have set up the system
    Stop your crying in your tea. Be happy that you still have tea.
    Knowledge is suppose to make you happy
    —–
    Putin, 67,
    Since when does someone rich and powerful allow the rif-raf to take away everything that he spent his life to attain!!!!!
    ——
    Fake news??? – Biden
    (I know nothing. Everything that I know is from what I have read.)

    Any foreign intelligence service worth their salt would have known Hunter Biden was a chronic drug addict.
    China and the Ukraine, and likely others, hired Hunter Biden anyway.

    Obviously, Hunter Biden was hired for access to his father in any pay-for-play schemes.
    But it now appears likely that these countries were also using this as fodder to blackmail Joe Biden.
    Joe Biden set up his tormented son with lucrative foreign contracts.
    Joe Biden’s senseless and selfish actions also left him open to blackmail.

    How many times was Joe Biden warned of his dangerous actions related to his drug addicted son?
    (by the secret service)
    Will the liberal media ever investigate this?
    Do Americans really believe that this man and his son should be President?

    ====
    Hope
    …. “The view from atop the mountain”…..
    or
    What’s behind the green door
    —–
    Aren’t you glad and happy that TAE is here to let you know how the system operates?

    in reply to: Go Home Greta #52847
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    HOPE
    Greta has been turned into a ” strange attractor”.
    Yet, she and her PR want-a-be cannot affect the dynamics of the flow.
    More people listen to her message than all of the blogggggers.
    Its too late. We can’t affect the outcome of the flapping of the butterfly that flapped in the past.

    Who can see through the key hole and see what’s behind the green door ( insert song )

    Midnight, one more night without sleepin’
    Watchin’ till the mornin’ comes creepin’
    Green door, what’s that secret you’re keepin?

    There’s an old piano
    And they play it hot behind the green door
    Don’t know what they’re doin’
    But they laugh a lot behind the green door
    Wish they’d let me in
    So I could find out what’s behind the green door

    Knocked once, tried to tell them I’d been there
    Door slammed, hospitality’s thin there
    Wonder just what’s goin’ on in there

    Saw an eyeball peepin’
    Through a smoky cloud behind the green door
    When I said, “Joe sent me”
    Someone laughed out loud behind the green door
    All I want to do is join the happy crowd behind the green door

    Midnight, one more night without sleepin’
    Watchin’ till the mornin’ comes creepin’
    Green door, what’s that secret you’re keepin?

    Green door, what’s that secret you’re keepin?
    Green door

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 20 2020 #52834
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 20 2020 #52833
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    “The longer the state puts off this rebalancing, the more out-of-control will be the reckoning.”

    We cannot influence the time line of “the rebalancing”.
    In my opinion, “the rebalancing” is already 10 years old.
    Therefore, the farther “the rebalancing” occurs, the better for me because it increases the odds that I’ll be sitting on a cloud eating popcorn.

    Going through ” the rebalancing” will not be comfortable for the survivors.
    Also, All living things must go through one of the 12 pearly gates.
    That is one time line that you can influence/choose.
    Make sure to have your chosen pain killer close by.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 20 2020 #52828
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    You read my comment from yesterday.
    five members of the Biden family, including Hunter, got rich using former Vice President Joe Biden’s “largesse, favorable access and powerful position. (Joe’s brothers James and Frank, his sister Valerie, and his son-in-law Howard )”
    CALL Peter Schweizer FOR THE IMPEACHMENT HEARING

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 19 2020 #52812
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    See …. that’s what enablers can do
    No proof of wrong doing – Biden
    https://nypost.com/2020/01/18/how-five-members-of-joe-bidens-family-got-rich-through-his-connections/
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/not-just-hunter-widespread-biden-family-profiteering-exposed

    five members of the Biden family, including Hunter, got rich using former Vice President Joe Biden’s “largesse, favorable access and powerful position. (Joe’s brothers James and Frank, his sister Valerie, and his son-in-law Howard )”
    For over a decade, the work of five-time New York Times bestselling investigative reporter Peter Schweizer has sent shockwaves through the political universe.
    In Profiles in Corruption, Schweizer offers a deep-dive investigation into the private finances, and secrets deals of some of America’s top political leaders. And, as usual, he doesn’t disappoint, with never-before-reported revelations that uncover corruption and abuse of power—all backed up by a mountain of corporate documents and legal filings from around the globe. Learn about how they are making sweetheart deals, generating side income, bending the law to their own benefits, using legislation to advance their own interests, and much more.


    CALL Peter Schweizer IN THE IMPEACHMENT HEARING

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 18 2020 #52797
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    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/944-trillion-reasons-why-fed-quietly-bailing-out-hedge-funds#comment_stream

    I get it now, It easy ……
    If you can get free money from the fed. then if you put it into the stock market casino you will make +30%.
    At the same time my pension fund get saved until I kick the bucket.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 18 2020 #52796
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    “It will be yours alone.”
    Therefore, since I cannot prove it, I can say,”Reality is a figment/creation of my imagination.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 18 2020 #52789
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    Winter storms
    Its miserable
    Don’t panic
    Its normal
    Its worst somewhere else

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 18 2020 #52788
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    “There is also much to be unraveled about the American mischief in Ukraine — which includes, but goes far beyond — the arrant grift of Hunter Biden. For example, ….”

    if everybody followed the directives set up by the enablers then ….
    There is no proof of wrong doing – Biden
    ———-
    • China’s Growing Economic Collapse (WRB)
    We should be asking …..
    Where are we going to buy what China produces if China goes bankrupt or if we destroy/go to war with China?
    Where are we going to sell our surplus product if China is not there to buy?
    ——-
    “It’s not a financial secret. While millionaires go broke, billionaires consolidate.”
    Trickle down economics
    Poor people die,
    middle class become poor
    Enablers become enforcers and sheriff
    ——
    Gandhi example – peaceful siege
    Warning to USA troops staying in Iraq: incoming phlegm, tracking dye, and paint balls

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2020 #52777
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    The following is every day quid pro quo
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/top-official-confirms-saudis-paid-us-500-million-cover-troop-costs

    But it’s not the first time the Saudis have foot the bill for major troop presence on its soil, as the CNN report notes:
    Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other Gulf states paid $36 billion towards the costs of the Gulf War in 1990-91.
    “Discussions are ongoing to formalize a mechanism for future contributions that offset the cost of these deployments,” the statement added.

    Iraq says go home.
    USA says, we will go where they pay for our mercenaries and services.

    Now, lets recalculate the cost of war in the middle east.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2020 #52770
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    “Russia’s comparative advantage in oil and gas is so high relative to everyone else “
    I don’t agree. Look what happened to Venezuela.
    Its not that much of an advantage for Canada.
    ie. $c 25 to 30% less (everything on sale), plus US oil, $58 vs Canadian oil $33
    ——

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 16 2020 #52746
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    “Entertainment for the echo chamber.”
    Who would have foreseen ….”Drain the swamp” would bring out the creatures using “impeachment” as their preferred tool.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 16 2020 #52744
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    The enablers are in charge

    https://www.bakersfield.com/ap/news/legal-ruling-on-withheld-ukraine-aid-could-shake-up-impeachment/article_e5324698-2e08-5fa4-a07c-29f8dbac4213.html

    Legal ruling on withheld Ukraine aid could shake up impeachment trial
    By Paul M. Krawzak CQ-Roll Call (TNS) Jan 13, 2020 Updated Jan 13, 2020

    As early as this week, the Government Accountability Office could release its legal opinion on whether Trump and senior White House officials violated the Nixon-era budget law that requires executive branch agencies to spend appropriated funds according to lawmakers’ wishes.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 16 2020 #52742
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    G. G. Bain Asbury Park, Jersey Shore 1914
    Duds are dressed “cool” for the beach. Yep, there is garbage on left on the beach and it gets cleaned everyday, just like now. There is no kelp.

    ———–
    Entertainment for the echo chamber.

    I would say, for the history book. Its all an illusion, as if its meaningful.

    ——–
    ” they should reconsider having any witnesses at all,” Sen. Paul said.”

    Everybody is dirty.
    There is not one politician that can go to communion without first going to confession.
    ———–
    ” …..billionaire Michael Bloomberg is living proof that it can’t buy you common sense, ….”
    WHAT!!!
    Are you saying that we are just as smart as a billionaire.
    Then, why are we not billionaires?
    —–
    giant monopolies
    That is the objective of capitalism. To be able to set the price without worrying about the cash outflow.
    Competition is the enemy of capitalism, (40% of companies don’t make money)
    —–
    • US Freight Shipments Plunge at Fastest Rate since 2009, Hit 2011 Level (WS)

    GEEEE!
    I think if people were given a bigger line of credit, there would not be any reduced buying.
    ——–

    “Over the 2018-19 financial year, Australia issued 45 weapons export permits to the United Arab Emirates, 23 to Saudi Arabia, 14 to Sri Lanka and four to the Democratic Republic of Congo.”

    SEE.
    If you want to stay in business, You got to sell to the people who have money to spend.
    —–

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 15 2020 #52721
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    the leaders of our leaders
    Yes, they made sure that Trump will be in the history books
    Yes, they will be remembered and go down in the history books because …..

    theatrical
    disrespectful
    disgusting
    blackmail
    childish school yard posturing

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 15 2020 #52719
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    DIVERSION LIES ARE EVERYWHERE
    Just heard Larry K. on TV and now Nancy P.

    Wrong upbringing …. lier schools for the enablers ….

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 14 2020 #52701
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    Nancy want to be briefed on Burisma
    Its all over, (the mainstream media)
    Bring data and evidence to the hearings
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/establishment-pundits-go-nuts-over-new-russian-hacking-conspiracy

    https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/establishment-pundits-go-nuts-over-new-russian-hacking-conspiracy-107520099416
    Establishment Pundits Go Nuts Over New Russian Hacking Conspiracy
    Caitlin Johnstone
    Jan 13 ·2020
    establishment pundits are falling all over themselves to tweet the hottest take on this exciting new Russia conspiracy.
    go read the article

    Ukrainian gas firm Burisma hacked by Russians

    Russia Hacked Ukrainian Company Linked To Trump Impeachment, Security Firm Says

    Russia has repeatedly tried to hack into the Ukrainian natural-gas company Burisma Holdings in what appears to be an effort to obtain dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter,

    https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/biden-linked-firm-was-hacked-by-russian-agents/ar-BBYW7LC
    Biden-linked firm ‘was hacked by Russian agents’

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 14 2020 #52700
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    @Maxwell Quest
    I believe you. I don’t want to be an elite. My decisions, errors or not only affect me and my small circle of life.
    Unfortunately, the devil found lots of souls for sale.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 14 2020 #52698
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    I liked that bee presentation from yesterday.
    ——
    WHAT!!!!
    Lock him up with Assage. No the truthsayer allowed.

    “…. lobbyists and companies will often give family members undeserved lucrative jobs and contracts to curry favor with powerful politicians. Overseas, it is standard operating procedure. ….”

    ——-
    Dammm it. They won’t give me a cussshy job.

    “…. the proposal sets a 2030 deadline for the conservation and restoration of ecosystems and wildlife that perform crucial services for humans. The text, drafted by the UN Convention on Biological Diversity, is expected to be adopted by governments in October at a crucial UN summit in the Chinese city of Kunming.”
    ——
    I want a job too.

    “The European Commission will propose on Tuesday how the EU can pay for shifting the region’s economy to zero CO2 emissions in 2050 while protecting areas and industries most dependent on coal from taking the brunt of changes aimed at preventing climate change.”
    ——-
    You got to kill off the predators so that the prey can survive to feed me. If the preys are killed off then the predators will find a new source of food. This applied to the virus as well as to the biggest predators.
    Hummmm! If you eat something that was alive, then everything living is a predator.

    “Even though people can see the Aboriginese doing the fire control, and could see the benefits, they couldn’t copy it,” he said.
    —-

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2020 #52686
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    for computer experts

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/here-comes-wikigate-2-nyt-claims-russian-hackers-successfully-breached-burisma

    Color us skeptical, alt-right, conspiracy-wonk, Putin-puppets; but the transparency and timing of tonight’s “bombshell” report from The New York Times of an ‘alleged’ hacking by ‘allegedly’ Russian hackers of Burisma – the Ukrainian energy firm that VP Biden’s crack-smoking, energy-ignorant son was paid $50,000 per month as a board member – reeks so strongly of foundational narrative-building for something “embarrassing” that is coming, it is stunning just how dumb the deep state must think the American public really is. Actually, maybe not all that stunning.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2020 #52685
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2020 #52684
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    @ John Day
    Let’s do a fact check
    I don’t know anything. Here is what I read. Did you see it?
    It seems very likely that Israel would be very interested in assassinating the general.
    https://www.israelnews.net/news/263686369/trump-deals-israel-another-huge-favour-in-assassinating-soleimani

    NBC News reported on Saturday Israelis intelligence through the Mossad had assisted in tracking Soleimani so was actually a participant in the slaying.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/mideast/airport-informants-overhead-drones-how-u-s-killed-soleimani-n1113726
    Jan. 10, 2020, 12:48 PM PST
    By Ken Dilanian and Courtney Kube

    Armed with a tip from informants at the airport in the Syrian capital of Damascus, the CIA knew exactly when a jet carrying Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani took off en route to Baghdad. Intelligence from Israel helped confirm the details.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2020 #52677
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    Route still flying
    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ps752

    Flight history for Ukraine Int. Airlines flight PS752

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2020 #52676
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    flight path of all planes 08 jan 2020
    https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2020/01/226.jpg

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2020 #52673
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    Every blog urges you to Read more …
    • ‘I’m Spending All My Money To Get Rid Of Trump’: Michael Bloomberg (R.)
    LIAR!
    The money came from our pockets.

    • Downing of PS-752 Already Being Used To Smear MH-17 Skeptics (OffG)
    There is a lot of other new hidden in these articles. Go look at the sources
    Read more …

    Iran’s accidental downing of a Ukrainian plane is already being used to smear MH-17 skeptics


    by Max Parry — January 12, 2020
    ie. In another astounding coincidence, Kolomoisky’s Privat Group is believed to control Burisma Holdings, the Cypress-based company whose executive board 2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden’s son Hunter was appointed to following the Maidan junta. The former Vice President admitted that he bribed Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor who was looking into his son’s corruption by threatening to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees.
    Predictably, Tehran’s transparency has gone mostly unappreciated while the Trump administration is already trying to use the disaster to further demonize Iran.

    I found lots and lots of other interesting news.
    OPINIONS????
    IF THE HAT FITS!!!!

    Bee news

    California’s Almond Harvest Is a Bee Thief’s Dream


    Oct 08, 2018
    California’s Almond Harvest Is a Bee Thief’s Dream
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    ADMITTING THE TRUTH

    Iran admitted to killing civilians. They are having to endure the demonstrations.

    USA does not admit to making “COLLATERAL DAMAGES”.
    Anyone showing proof, Yep, (like Assange), (you can name 2 more), are not called whistleblowers, but rather called spies and…. and ….. well you have heard just as many horror stories as me.

    When have you hear Israel admit to making a mistake?
    https://www.israelnews.net/news/263686369/trump-deals-israel-another-huge-favour-in-assassinating-soleimani
    Trump deals Israel another huge favour in assassinating Soleimani
    By Jay Jackson, Israel News.Net
    12 Jan 2020

    How about being put in jail for 18 years and getting re-educated without a trial?
    (Geee! Did you think that I was referring/talking about China?)
    NOOOOO!

    Activists Demand U.S. Close Guantánamo and End 18 Years of Torture


    Jessica Corbett
    Jan 12, 2020

    Human rights advocates marked the 18th anniversary of the opening of the U.S. military prison at the Guantánamo Bay Naval Station in Cuba with a rally outside the White House on Saturday to “demand an end to years of torture and human rights violations” and call for the detention camp’s immediate closure.
    In January 2018, President Donald Trump signed an executive order to keep the prison open. The move, which revoked an order from Trump’s predecessor that called for the prison to be closed, outraged human rights defenders. With the demonstration Saturday, activists criticized not only Trump’s decisions related to the prison but also those of former Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush.
    “Three United States presidents have overseen Guantánamo during its shameful 18-year existence, yet it continues to remain open as people who have never been granted a trial are still detained and as they age and face the prospect of spending the rest of their lives in the prison, dying far away from the families and loved ones they have not seen in years,” Daphne Eviatar of Amnesty International USA said in a statement.
    “It is well past time that Guantánamo close once and for all, and all the men who have long ago been cleared for release are transferred to countries that have agreed to accept them,” added Eviatar, director of the Security With Human Rights program.

    Organizers of the “Justice Now: Close Guantánamo and End Torture” rally included Amnesty International USA, Witness Against Torture, Defending Rights & Dissent, Center for Constitutional Rights, CAIR, September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, the World Can’t Wait, CodePink, National Religious Campaign Against Torture, Close Guantanamo, Tsuru for Solidarity, and Justice for Muslims Collective.
    “Guantánamo currently holds 40 individuals: all Muslim men, many of whom were tortured in the camp,” Amnesty’s statement said. “Several detainees are experiencing health problems as a result of years of detention and instances of torture and other ill-treatment. Some remain detained despite having been cleared for transfer for years. This includes Toffiq al-Bihani, who has been imprisoned for eight years without trial.”

    Participants in Saturday’s demonstration carried signs which declared “Close Guantánamo now!” and “Investigate and prosecute U.S. torture!” Other signs shared the stories of individuals detained at the prison. Some of the activists wore orange jumpsuits and black hoods.

    Along with the rally outside the White House Saturday afternoon, organizers held a funeral procession, which ended at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. The activists carried nine coffins for nine detainees who have died at the prison.

    Organizers of the action aimed to call “attention to the brutality of the prison, including indefinite detention, and for an end to any and all uses of torture,” they explained on Facebook. “We cannot let Guantánamo disappear from the public consciousness.”
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    ZH has a lot more “articles” to read

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 12 2020 #52657
    zerosum
    Participant

    A chorus of talking heads celebrated Trump’s killing of an Iranian leader. Few of them disclosed their ties to defense contractors.

    Just designate someone “a terrorist” then you can legally assassinate them with impunity.
    ( THE SHEEP WON’T NOTICE THE ILOGIC)
    Assassinating someone by expending millions of dollars will also go unnoticed by the sheep who are too busy to put food on the table with their too small paycheck.

    People used to actually make a living off of small businesses like that; today’s corrupt economics wouldn’t hear of it, much less allow it

    The younger generations don’t have a clue why you say that.
    Many countries still have those kinds of small businesses scrambling to make enough money to pay the rakers and enablers and still have some saving at the end of the month to try to get an improved lifestyle.

    We’re just so fucked; and have no idea of just how much…

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