Debt Rattle 9/11 2025
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Perhaps D and his miker can explain the following in non-overwrought, self-professed unemotional, mega-stoic but definitely not cold psychopathic Way:
Is this behavior by Jd Vance BLANTON Bowman Hamel standard protocol for Heads of State like Charlie Kirk?
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sooooo Vance should be honoring the Mossad/CIA psyop from 24 years ago that wasted trillions of dollars and millions of lives and put the USA into a perpetual quasi non constitutional state of emergency?
In preference to honoring a journalist murdered in cold blood for talking with people and having opinions? How heartless??? Honoring free speech and civil society over honoring the security state and a lie?
emmanuel goldstein alert!!!!!¡¡¡¡¡!!!!!!
[btw, i’m still not a socialist]
jb-hb said
“Activist” does NOT mean someone who wants to destroy things like free speech, free association, and is not open nor honest, is not a good faith actor, does not care to have a discussion, whose every “discussion” is for the purpose of NON discussion.
Kirk was wanting to destroy the Palestinians, he supported Israeli assassinations, he regularly lied about the starvation in Gaza and you pretend that he was a truth teller, all he wanted was to speak? Nonsense, you have lost your powers of critical thought. Posing the Kirks of this world as fighting leftists is nonsense, the Kirks of this world are religious zealots, they will lie and decive to get what they want. Your painting Kirk as someone who just wants to persue the truth is disingenuous or just more plain lies.
You are hung up on leftists, your arguments are mostly nonsense, even in your diatribe above you have to define “activist” in your own terms. The evangelicals are not activists in your terms, they are religious zealots, they are the same as the war hawks in government. They have abandoned the inconvenient parts of their religion and become fundementalists, just like the people who strap bombs to themselves and blow up others, except that US fundementalists support the IDF and the US military doing their version of religious mass murder.
Kirk’s god said “Do not kill”, he did not say it was okay sometimes, it was a direct order, but Kirk decided that he didn’t like that bit, so he hitched his donkey to the evangelical wagon, the people who’s self interest trumps everybody else’s self interest, this Kirk garbage was persuing evangelicalism through the genocide of the Palestinians and you mourn him as a truth teller? Give us a break.
They took over the $ in 1913. Told everyone who the new boss was in 1963. The coup de eta was 911. Any American reading this better begin to understand the enemy, Sun Tzu, rule number 1. They want you dead, after they steal everything you own.
Dude, there is a difference between stating your opinions and being a subversive acting in bad faith. Your entire post is with the intent to invert the definition as opposed to discuss.
I notice the latest Apsnaz is far, FAR more sensitive about criticism of socialism than previous ones.
And does different strategems – like the socialist thing of lecturing Christians about Christianity while not being one and despising them. The old windsufing Apsnaz never engaged in fuckery like this.
Your’e like a pod person, a space alien, who cannot understand a detailed post about bad faith subversives and feels little embarrassment (you just embarrassed yourself publicly quite a lot with this last post) when saying someone openly, forthrightly having different opinions than you and being willing to genuinely willing to discuss them is the same thing. That’s cluster-b talk, man.
religious mass murder.
actually, the religion is just a cover. the mass murder is about resources, and thus, power.
same as it ever was..
religion is a just one of the easiest to use cover stories.
jb-hb said
So the corporations, controlled by radical leftist trust fund babies that went to the right colleges, drift towards doing what Communists do when they gain power, and when we see the awfulness, we say “Woah, Lenin was right”???
The roots of the left are the working man, the man who goes to do a physically demanding job every day for a wage, who is totally replaceable and is the bottom of the economic ladder lacking any real individual power. Those people are the brothers that the communists go on about. These are the people that the communists traditionally want to protect by not, for example, supporting immigration; the workers of the world unite. The reason they do not support immigration is that they see it as a direct result of capitalism; the demand for more labour is due to the demand for growth and expansion resulting from capitalism. The communists see this as people having to migrate to get a job, taking the best away from another country in order to feed the destination country, the communists see this as a bad thing, the factories should go to the countries without jobs, not the workers travelling to the countries with jobs. Apologies to any real communists, but that is the gist of their thinking.
But the media left supports immigration, so how does that work? Because there are two sets of leftists, there are the ones who’s objectives are to defend the common man as the foundation for a healthy society, and there are the Tony Blair latte supping leftists who are middle class, read the Guardian and pretend that they are good people for supporting the common man, but in actuality are serving themselves and have captured the political movements of the common man. These people believe in immigration because it supports DEI, it supports equality blah blah. Basically it supports good causes, but these are also the NIMBY class, these people will support the down trodden but not in their area. The problem is that the real left does not support the “down trodden”, it supports workers and insists that they should not be turned into the downtrodden.
Capturing a political movement such as the left was effected by Margaret Thatcher in the UK. She was determined to make the workers middle class, so she sold government owned houses cheaply to the workers and in return they became Tory voters or faux leftists. This was a huge win for the employers as she destroyed the unions and had the support of all the new house owners. Sounds good, except that the result was the total destruction of all industry in the UK. Not so good. Something similar happened to the USA.
The middle class leftists have lost sight of the aims of the original left which was to support their country and to support their brothers at their home, not demanding that everybody emmigrate to the USA for a job.
You cannot conflate the leftists who have taken over a part of the leftist mantle with real leftists who are still wanting the workers of the world to unite. Most of the latte supping middle class leftists do not even know a working man, they are complete frauds, the closest they get to working men is their gardener.
They are all frauds, but not all leftists are frauds. The original leftists have a valid argument, even though I do not agree with all their methods; the latte supping leftists are just politically lost, they have no ideology, that is why they do not talk ideology. They abandoned their ideology and have been led by the nose to support any stupid cause that comes along, the virtue signalling train.
jb-hb said
Your’e like a pod person, a space alien, who cannot understand a detailed post about bad faith subversives and feels little embarrassment (you just embarrassed yourself publicly quite a lot with this last post) when saying someone openly, forthrightly having different opinions than you and being willing to genuinely willing to discuss them is the same thing. That’s cluster-b talk, man.
You are commenting about leftists in a dumb fashion, that is why I am responding to you. You are talking about Democrats and communists in the same sentence, you are accusing the Democrat voters of bringing communism to America. That is just plain dumb. The vast majority of Democrat voters have no real knowledge of communism.
Until you look into the left wing and understand the different groups involved, your comments don’t say very much and do not hang together. Just because Kirk is anti-left does not make him a good guy. You seems to have forgotten that “the enemy of my enemy is not my friend”.
You are talking about the left and right as if they were rooted in something other than a vacuum of ideology. The left does not follow communism or any recogniseable leftist agenda, the right does not follow conservatism or any recognisable rightist agenda. The lack of ideology opens the way for the religious fanatics, like Kirk, to start preaching to the desperate ears of the youth, misleading them into religious fanaticism instead of leading them into political ideology.
I don’t embarrass myself, your simplification of the world just doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. If you were a learning person you would see that for yourself, but you have put learning to one side and picked up the mantle of “anti-left superman” when really you don’t even understand the left.
those darned kids said
actually, the religion is just a cover. the mass murder is about resources, and thus, power.
same as it ever was..
religion is a just one of the easiest to use cover stories.
I agree, but the fact is that they DO need a cover story and different groups have their stories. The evangelicals have their religious reasons to support Israel, the Jews have their reasons to support Israel and Greater Israel etc. Theft on a grand scale, as with war, needs a cover story that will draw in the masses and get them to support what should not be happening. As with all the morons putting Ukraine flags on the X posts back in 2022, now we have half of America supporting the Gaza genocide. It appears as if there is nothing the government cannot persuade a large chunk of the people to support.
Sun Tzu’s principles of war
emphasize strategic superiority over brute force,
with the highest form of victory being
the ability to subdue the enemy without direct conflict.The core rule is that
it is better to capture an enemy’s country, army, or unit intact
rather than destroy it, as destruction leads to
unnecessary loss and resource drain.Well Mike, the talmud states..even the best of the goyim must die, unnecessary loss is the whole point of it. Look at Gaza. That;s coming here, very soon/
Yeah, the choice was Mine and Binary.
Fly Chuck Kirk’s corpse on Air Force2 or Go Celebrate 911…they don’t really mean memorialize the dead as many of them and their survivors already got paid or is that also urban legend?
Nah, I rather thought JD HAMEL VANCE BOWMAN BLANTON coulda and woulda done any number of other things right in his wheel house:
ie.
1. Gymned it
2. Phoned it in
3. Got permanent tattoo eyeliner mascara it’s the rage and saves time in front of the mirror (can a white forelock be next to confuse voters in his quest to wrestle a future GOP nomination away from Tulsi White Forelock Meandering Gabbard
4. Go blow Peter Thiel…the monthly bill is due Jay Dee Hill Bill Eee
5. Write or Say stupid about China Bad!!!They are all frauds, but not all leftists are frauds.
Is a 200 year wait too soon for non fraud socialists to do the REAL socialism? Or to rise up an do the heavy lifting of fighting the fakes – the real socialists presumably having the most skin in the game, the most reason to fight, to stop their own socialism being ruined?
I mean, something other than nodding along with the supposed frauds, interjecting “the man has a point” and making various helpful-to-fake-socialist milksop gestures? Alternating with saying tribes or families or other things that predate Socialism by millions of years are “also ackshully socialism” while never sitting at trad families feet, accepting as their lords and masters to teach them the real ackshully socialism that works because they keep failing?
“I’m probably just as good an atheist as you are,” she speculated boastfully. “But even I feel that we all have a great deal to be thankful for and that we shouldn’t be ashamed to show it.”
“Name one thing I’ve got to be thankful for,” Yossarian challenged her without interest.
“Well…” Lieutenant Scheisskopf’s wife mused and paused a moment to ponder dubiously. “Me.”
“Oh, come on,” he scoffed.
She arched her eyebrows in surprise. “Aren’t you thankful for me?” she asked. She frowned peevishly, her pride wounded. “I don’t have to shack up with you, you know,” she told him with cold dignity. “My husband has a whole squadron full of aviation cadets who would be only too happy to shack up with their commanding officer’s wife just for the added fillip it would give them.” Yossarian decided to change the subject. “Now you’re changing the subject,” he pointed out diplomatically. “I’ll bet I can name two things to be miserable about for every one you can name to be thankful for.”
“Be thankful you’ve got me,” she insisted.
“I am, honey. But I’m also goddam good and miserable that I can’t have Dori Duz again, too. Or the hundreds of other girls and women I’ll see and want in my short lifetime and won’t be able to go to bed with even once.”
“Be thankful you’re healthy.”
“Be bitter you’re not going to stay that way.”
“Be glad you’re even alive.”
“Be furious you’re going to die.”
“Things could be much worse,” she cried.
“They could be one hell of a lot better,” he answered heatedly.
“You’re naming only one thing,” she protested. “You said you could name two.”
“And don’t tell me God works in mysterious ways,” Yossarian continued, hurtling on over her objection. “There’s nothing so mysterious about it. He’s not working at all. He’s playing. Or else He’s forgotten all about us. That’s the kind of God you people talk about–a country bumpkin, a clumsy, bungling, brainless, conceited, uncouth hayseed. Good God, how much reverence can you have for a Supreme Being who finds it necessary to include such phenomena as phlegm and tooth decay in His divine system of creation? What in the world was running through that warped, evil, scatological mind of His when He robbed old people of the power to control their bowel movements? Why in the world did He ever create pain?”
“Pain?” Lieutenant Scheisskopf’s wife pounced upon the word victoriously. “Pain is a useful symptom. Pain is a warning to us of bodily dangers.”
“And who created the dangers?” Yossarian demanded. He laughed caustically. “Oh, He was really being charitable to us when He gave us pain! Why couldn’t He have used a doorbell instead to notify us, or one of His celestial choirs? Or a system of blue-and-red neon tubes right in the middle of each person’s forehead. Any jukebox manufacturer worth his salt could have done that. Why couldn’t He?”
“People would certainly look silly walking around with red neon tubes in the middle of their foreheads.”
“They certainly look beautiful now writhing in agony or stupefied with morphine, don’t they? What a colossal, immortal blunderer! When you consider the opportunity and power He had to really do a job, and then look at the stupid, ugly little mess He made of it instead, His sheer incompetence is almost staggering. It’s obvious He never met a payroll. Why, no self-respecting businessman would hire a bungler like Him as even a shipping clerk!” Lieutenant Scheisskopf’s wife had turned ashen in disbelief and was ogling him with alarm. “You’d better not talk that way about Him, honey,” she warned him reprovingly in a low and hostile voice. “He might punish you.”
“Isn’t He punishing me enough?” Yossarian snorted resentfully. “You know, we mustn’t let Him get away with it. Oh, no, we certainly mustn’t let Him get away scot free for all the sorrow He’s caused us. Someday I’m going to make Him pay. I know when. On the Judgment Day. Yes, That’s the day I’ll be close enough to reach out and grab that little yokel by His neck and–”
“Stop it! Stop it!” Lieutenant Scheisskopf’s wife screamed suddenly, and began beating him ineffectually about the head with both fists. “Stop it!” Yossarian ducked behind his arm for protection while she slammed away at him in feminine fury for a few seconds, and then he caught her determinedly by the wrists and forced her gently back down on the bed. “What the hell are you getting so upset about?” he asked her bewilderedly in a tone of contrite amusement. “I thought you didn’t believe in God.”
“I don’t,” she sobbed, bursting violently into tears. “But the God I don’t believe in is a good God, a just God, a merciful God. He’s not the mean and stupid God you make Him out to be.” Yossarian laughed and turned her arms loose. “Let’s have a little more religious freedom between us,” he proposed obligingly. “You don’t believe in the God you want to, and I won’t believe in the God I want to. Is that a deal?”
Lieteutenant ShitHead?
Really!?!?In other newz, D revealed his/her/its Trauma Surgeon Bonafides.
Tell us more D?
Spot ya your WingMan miker.Case report:
Pelvic gunshot wound, hemodynamically stable, no visible hemorrhage, no exit wound then suddenly your patient’s blood pressure drops precipitously, the 21yo Marine goes unconscious and assumes decorticate posture.What ya gonna do?
The RNs, Anesthesiologist, their half dozen corpsmen and 2 Trauma surgeons stand motionless and silent in the same tent AND all eyes turn to you.
What ya gonna do D?
Call Ritter?
Make a video?
Addtnl Background: no one knows you in that tent, not the Marine patient, none of the medical staff, zip zilch nada.
Paging miker?
BLS?
ABCs?
ATLS?Come on!
You patient is dying and all those petulant bitches and bastards standing paralyzed in that with you are not paralyzed by fear and ignorance, they are in fact miffed, admittedly, for the DoD having called in the IOU on their training tab and removed them from their lucrative jobs in the United States’ vaunted medical system.Last word to you from Trauma Surgeon:
“You! Do! Something! That’s your job Active Duty Doctor”
Your thought until this day: “How did He Trauma Surgeon know…. when he never met you in your life or even in that pivotal moment made introductions?”
What’s your next move, doctor, when the next thing said is a nurse bitching because you raised your voice at the inaction and failure to follow orders one of which was “Get your deadass carcasses out this tent and send in the next Team since you’re not following ordere AND you don’t recognize this Marine is dying but doesn’t have to”
Evil exists.
Hell is empty.
All the devils are here masquerading as sensitive, competent ppl, money making and CapitalMonopolism their priority because The Free Market and UnFettered PriceSeeking assures only Best Utopian results even for the poor…trickle down thank God“That is just plain dumb.”
yeah, with a capital “B”!!!
It appears as if there is nothing the government cannot persuade a large chunk of the people to support.
tdk’s theory of human:
4% of people are socio and/or psychopaths (the ones with bad teeth become criminals; the ones with good teeth, politicians).
80%.of people are flock, mostly sheep (marinos, katahdin, shetland..) a few cows, and some mules. these people are the persuadable chunk, those the 4% prey upon.
16% of people are the ones who spend their entire lives trying to convince the 80% that they are being preyed upon by the 4%. thus, they are hated by the 80%.
the vast majority of those who comment here are of the 16%. we may disagree about the solutions, and we may disagree about who the real psychopaths are,
but
we
all
are
trying
to
help
the
sheep.oh, and please never anyone ever oh so neverly never mention peter thiel and oral anything everly again, please.
please.
asbestos regards,
wongman miker, esquire
jb-hb said
Is a 200 year wait too soon for non fraud socialists to do the REAL socialism?
Do you remember Arthur Scargill, the union leader in the UK who fought tooth and nail to keep the coal mines open in the UK? Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair, both backed by the same people, were tasked with distroying inductrialisation in the UK. Reagan was tasked with the same objective in the USA. In the UK there were long strikes, the unions trying to support the workers, but the government had the ultimate authority and so they destroyed the unions, changing the law, one bit at a time, so that unions would be defanged. Scargill was a true left winger, that was after 200 years ago.
If there was ever an argument for the uniparty in the UK, it was the Thatcher and Blair years, Thatcher destroyed the unions, Blair and his backing Jews took over the labour party; who needs a labour party when unions and “workers” have been outlawed. It was a revolution in British politics and the subsequent decline of the UK is seen in the subsequent politicians honoured with the title of Prime Minister; a shocking bunch of retards.
I can’t remember exactly what happened in the USA, but the same transformation happened and around the same time, it was a coordinated effort and Reagan was the USA’s Thatcher, he did the damage in the USA; from industrialisation to financialisation. The USA and UK financiers transformed from predators to scavengers.
jb-hb said:
Alternating with saying tribes or families or other things that predate Socialism by millions of years are “also ackshully socialism”
From the wiki page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_socialism
“Africa’s social background of tribal community life not only makes socialism natural to Africa but excludes the validity of the theory of class struggle,”
You need to get out more. Your country is but a small part of a massive world.
@jb-hb and Aspnaz #4:
Yes, a different Aspnaz. I liked #1 pretty well, and #2 was ok, sorta’ flippant. #3 was short term, like a vacation-Aspnaz; real jerk, then #2 returned, now #4 is fairly intellectual, potentially the best Aspnaz since #1.@Aspnaz4: Murray Bookchin was a fairly ideal American leftist who worked in a blast furnace and organized workers for a union, amongst many other things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Bookchin
Libertarian Municipalism: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/murray-bookchin-libertarian-municipalism-an-overview
John Day said
Libertarian Municipalism: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/murray-bookchin-libertarian-municipalism-an-overview
The first paragraph, written in 1991, says
Perhaps the greatest single failing of movements for social reconstruction — I refer particularly to the Left, to radical ecology groups, and to organizations that profess to speak for the oppressed — is their lack of a politics that will carry people beyond the limits established by the status quo.
Exactly my point, there is no ideology in any US or UK political party, it is an ideology wasteland and as a result people are easliy led into religion and virtue signalling nonsense (or “speaking for the oppressed”) that are aimless and have no cohesive thought behind them. The old guard, such as the author, have their well thought through ideologies, these people are worth listening to, whether you agree with them or not, because they have thought through many of the issues and worked out a “politics that will carry people beyond … the status quo”. These people still exist but they are not the people feeding the US media leftist message which adheres to no leftist ideology that I have ever seen.
EMULSIFIER FOR PEACE
(helper: copilot)– Salad Dressing: Oil and vinegar (mostly water) separate unless shaken or emulsified.
What You’ll Observe
– Layering: Oil floats because it’s less dense than water.
– Temporary Emulsion: If you shake the mixture, you’ll get a cloudy blend for a few seconds. But soon, the oil and water will separate again.
– Stable Mixing? Only possible with an emulsifier—like dish soap or egg yolk—which has molecules that can bond with both oil and water.If oil and water represent polarized political views—say, Democrats and Republicans—then an emulsifier would be something that helps them mix, even temporarily.
1. Civil Discourse
– Like lecithin in mayonnaise, respectful conversation can bind opposing views.
– It doesn’t erase differences, but it creates a space where ideas can coexist.
2. Shared Facts
– Think of nonpartisan journalism or peer-reviewed data as the stabilizer.
– When both sides agree on the reality they’re discussing, it’s easier to find common ground.
3. Bipartisan Legislation
– Policies crafted with input from both parties—like infrastructure bills—act as real-world emulsifiers.
4. Science & Innovation
– Issues like climate change or public health often transcend ideology.
– Scientific consensus can serve as a neutral base that both sides can build on.
Bonus Analogy: Egg Yolk
– Just as egg yolk binds oil and water in a vinaigrette, maybe education or community service could bind political ideologies—by focusing on shared values like fairness, opportunity, and safety.Emulsifiers for Peace—if peace and conflict are like oil and water, then what helps them blend, even temporarily? Let’s explore the metaphorical “emulsifiers” that help build and sustain peace across cultures, ideologies, and histories.
1. Empathy and Humanization
– In conflict, people often see the “other” as a threat. Emulsifiers like empathy, storytelling, and shared experiences help restore the sense of shared humanity.
– Peacebuilders use personal narratives to dissolve stereotypes and foster connection.
2. Dialogue and Diplomacy
– Just as egg yolk binds oil and water, dialogue binds opposing sides.
It’s not just talking—it’s listening, reframing, and validating.
– 3. Shared Goals and Interdependence
– Economic cooperation, environmental protection, and public health are areas where nations find common ground.
– These shared interests act like lecithin—a natural emulsifier—creating bonds that transcend conflict.
4. Education and Cultural Exchange
– Programs that promote cross-cultural understanding, such as student exchanges or joint research, help reduce fear and build trust.
– These initiatives are slow-acting emulsifiers, but their effects are long-lasting.
5. Symbolic Acts and Rituals
– – Peace treaties, joint memorials, or even shared meals can serve as emotional emulsifiers.
– They create moments of unity, even in the aftermath of violence.Peace isn’t passive—it’s engineered. And like any good emulsion, it requires constant stirring.
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