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    Anthony Van Dyck Self portrait with sunflower 1632   • Europe Has No Money, US Has No Weaposs, Ukraine Has No Soldiers (ZH) • Kiev’s Backers Fail
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 20 2025]

    #194230
    Germ
    Participant

    Get death vaxxed. Die younger.

    Japan proves excess deaths in vaccinated

    TVASSF – it’s working.

    #194232
    Topcat
    Participant

    • Europe Has No Money, US Has No Weapons, Ukraine Has No Soldiers

    This is similar to medicine as practiced in the USSA

    #194233
    Michael Reid
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    #194234
    Topcat
    Participant

    “They don’t care, they want war. Trump Tells Europe: You Can’t Wait Weeks, Thousands Are Dying”

    Europe needs a war to distract it’s populous from it’s financial collapse and bankruptcy.

    It’s all about money, not morality.

    The whole “Green Eco Climate Change Thing” will not save Euroturdland.

    It will doom it and it’s ‘eConomy’

    It’s cooked, stick a fork in it.

    More lies than even Trump tells, if that’s possible.

    #194235
    Topcat
    Participant

    Green Pro Tip for Euroturdlland

    #194236
    Topcat
    Participant

    #194239
    Dr. D
    Participant

    The collapse of European power, in a single picture.”

    True, actually. If there’s not a war on that losing will make them actually collapse…oh wait…

    “• Europe Has No Money, US Has No Weapons, Ukraine Has No Soldiers (ZH)

    They’re winning the F—k out of that Signaling war though.

    “• Kiev’s Backers Fail To Sway Trump On Russia – Poletaev (RT)

    Their Plan is Plan A: get a security backstop from the U.S. then make them fight the whole war and hand Russia to Europe. Nah, I don’t think so.

    “Yeah, I don’t give a f—k about deals, Europeans.” I guess we’re gonna get chewed out with mean and naughty language. Oh no. Haaaahhvard will say America is “Simply Deplorable.” Golly, whatever shall we do?

    BTW, it’s past Armstrong’s 8/18 pivot date. What happened?

    I think that photo of Trump summoning all Europe to his office and having them go one by one under his desk. Anticlimax.

    But that doesn’t put off his 2026 call.

    “Medvedev said the question remains “what tune” Zelenskyy would play “about guarantees & territories back home, once he’s put on his green military uniform again.”

    “We’ll give you another $150 Billion Dollars if you put on a tie.”

    He couldn’t. I’m beginning to suspect this is not about the Ukrainian people.

    “Possible guarantor states: Great Britain, China, Russia, the United States, France, Turkey, Germany, Canada, Italy, Poland, Israel.”

    Yeah weasel words of course, Trumps “Suuuuure there can be security states”, without asking Russia. …As long as we’re not one of them. Russia says Suuuuuuuure there can be security states….so long as no one in NATO or the whole West is one of them. North Korea anyone?

    Every step is more hilarious than the last. Numbers have moved to 1.8M Dead. …Ukraine side only.

    “A summit has been organized between Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky which would kick-start peace negotiations.”

    Along with BothNeitherAiii, not it hasn’t. But Trump I think is advising Putin on how best to lie, not a Russian forte. Putin has always said he’ll meet whenever anything happens, but obviously big obstacle in that Ze is a private citizen and unrelated to Ukrainian government, holding no power. Perhaps elections would solve this.

    But he said “Sure” when “Sure” means, “Okay IF you have something like, “there will be no ceasefire’ THEN we agree to send…people more senior to the people we already have, who are running a negotiation the Ukrainians are already refusing to talk to.” Deal?

    That is, all eyewash, nothing’s happening. But this is diplomacy, Trump is right, you get through it by making SOMETHING happen, whatever that is, however dumb. You can’t just sit quietly at an impasse and stare at each other. Play ‘21’ together or something.

    “Adequately securing such a large border on the Ukrainian side would take a huge amount of troops — one estimate suggests as many as 150,000 European soldiers.”

    Hahahahahhahahahaaha!!!! I can’t stop laughing! Oh my God!

    How about 1.5 MILLION to not be enough and still easily LOSE it? Maybe 2-5 million to press it?

    Yeah, they have no jeeps and will be fighting that war in yugo with a nerf gun, while Russia actually HAS 2M men now, already trained, many rotated through the front lines. Russia would find no trouble raising the pot to 5M each side.
    …And could still nuke all Europe to ashes in 5 minutes.

    “You go girl, and I do mean you.”

    youdo
    https://preview.redd.it/you-do-you-how-does-it-even-mean-v0-w0x0a1h0fzwe1.jpeg

    “British military chiefs had “given up” on large-scale deployment plans, despite Starmer’s public support.”

    They’ve already bombed – or recently abducted – all the British who visited there. But the two British generals were just “Sea Tourists” and “Historians” who weren’t trained in underwater demolition at all. I mean, I say, sir, if you can’t trust the British what are things coming to?

    “• Trump Tells Europe: “You Can’t Wait Weeks, Thousands Are Dying” (CTH)

    Literally every human on earth could die, all 7.9 Billion of them, and they’d be happier for it. I don’t know why he doesn’t know this. He thinks they have some residual humanity, and are human beings. They are not. I’m not making that up, that’s every action they’ve had for 25 years running, or perhaps all of my life.

    Ever hear of “Rape Gangs”, now not just for women anymore! But little, little girls.

    Supposedly Sbreniska was a bad thing, but not to Starmer! He oversaw the whole operation and is still defending UK rape camps today!

    ““At the Peace negotiations in Istanbul in 2025, Ukraine handed over a list of 339 “children” allegedly “abducted” by Russia.”

    They were Russian in the Russian districts. When they come of age they will be instantly sent to the front lines and killed.

    “• EU Leaders Went To Washington Begging Daddy Trump To Spank Them (Marsden)

    Long article and you would think he’s exaggerating – History sure will think so – but NOPE.

    “• The Ukraine War Could ‘End Tomorrow’ If The US Wanted: Jeffrey Sachs (ZH)

    Uhhhh, I don’t believe this is true. We can stop sending money and weapons, and did. They’re on some residual of both. WE don’t control the world, Jeff. It seems like we do, but we don’t. Ukraine can keep fighting with sticks, and so can Poland if they wish. Even if we enter the war on Russia’s side we can’t stop them.

    “But when someone tells me ‘Stalin killed 20 million of his own people during WWII’, I switch off.”

    We just say stuff now. Just make it up. It’s the opposite of what we said yesterday but nevermind and don’t notice.
    Always Be Speaking. Never thinking, just speaking.

    “• Tulsi Revokes Security Clearances For 37 Former, Current Intel Officials (JTN)

    These should have been cut in the 1950s. So blow me. You haven’t even curtailed their pensions much less arrested and hung them. Chop chop.

    “• On The Road To A Hyperstate: EU Commission Circumvents Financing Rules (ZH)

    We just do stuff now. We just say stuff. We just say we’re taxing you. We just say we have the power.

    “AI isn’t just helping doctors anymore… it’s beating them.”

    I don’t know what AI they’re using, but all AI I can find is lying. It lies and makes stuff up more or less all the time. That’s fine in English Literature, but not so good for anything you need to act on, like prescribing fatal drugs.

    So good luck with that.

    “Okinawa, coastal fishermen have acted upon coral reefs’ decline,”

    But coral reef is rapidly increasing. Where is AFKTT when you need him? I hope he’s okay, probably shot up his neighbors and himself in a bid to reduce CO2.

    #194240
    Dr. D
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    #194241
    ram
    Participant

    It is all a distraction. Have you noticed the approximately 25 km diameter starship coming in. About to approximately de-orbit between outside of earth moon and mars orbits, i.e. outside of human weapon systems ranges..

    Talk to your people knowledgeable in in astronomy. You spook guys, you know what I am from where I came. What? You think we don’t have backups, and reinforcements?

    #194242
    Topcat
    Participant

    Make America Healthy Again

    Pete and Bobby challenge

    Well, sort of……..

    #194243
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #194244
    zerosum
    Participant

    FACTS

    • Europe Has No Money, US Has No Weapons, Ukraine Has No Soldiers (ZH)

    Any dissent is labelled as “disinformation”, “propaganda”, “hybrid warfare”, or even treason.
    ———–
    • ‘Coalition Of The Willing’ Failed To Outplay Trump – Medvedev (ZH)

    “The anti-Russian warmongering Coalition of the Willing failed to outplay @POTUS on his turf,” Medvedev said on X.

    Alastair Crooke suggests (video) that the peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine will follow the outline of the Istanbul Agreement negotiated in March 2022 between Ukraine and Russia.

    The Ukraine can have ‘security guarantees’.
    But the conditions of those will be set by the main guarantor – which has to be Russia.

    “no one wants to send their troops to die in Ukraine.”
    —————

    I can’t decide what sounds more stupid: ‘Coalition of the Willing’ or ‘Security Guarantees’.

    • Trump ‘Assures’ No US Boots On Ground To Enforce A Peace Deal In Ukraine (ZH)
    ———–
    • The Ukraine War Could ‘End Tomorrow’ If The US Wanted: Jeffrey Sachs (ZH)

    Sachs observed sarcastically. “This is taken as failure in our media which of course is hawkish by the moment and manipulated by, controlled by, paid by, or simply aligned with the military industrial complex in the country.
    So, it’s extraordinarily hard to hear a word about peace in this country.”
    ————-

    Moscow has repeatedly stated that any Western troop presence in Ukraine is unacceptable. Multiple Russian officials, including National Security Council secretary Sergey Shoigu, have warned such a deployment would amount to an occupation and could trigger a third world war.

    Moscow maintains that any lasting settlement must eliminate the root causes of the conflict, address Russia’s security concerns,
    and recognize current territorial realities,
    including the status of Crimea and the four former Ukrainian regions that voted to join Russia in 2022.

    ———-

    #194245
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #194246
    Dora
    Participant

    More mRNA so-called vax in the pipeline.

    #194247
    zerosum
    Participant

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    #194248
    jb-hb
    Participant

    “Okinawa, coastal fishermen have acted upon coral reefs’ decline,”

    But coral reef is rapidly increasing. Where is AFKTT when you need him? I hope he’s okay, probably shot up his neighbors and himself in a bid to reduce CO2.

    To this day, he may still be stuck on on “humans cannot possibly build coral reefs” and he never seemed to internalize that the Great Coral Reef has been growing, so the chance is not 0%.

    But when someone tells me ‘Stalin killed 20 million of his own people during WWII’, I switch off.

    Stalin killed, what, 5 or 6 million, just in Ukraine, just 1932-1933, but in the 5 years of WW2, I will not hear of or think of or entertain the WORDS?

    5 years x 5 Million = 25 Million.

    All he had to do to reach this figure was keep crunching along as normal.

    Apart from any “emergency” measures the Soviets might have adopted. (Genociding the Volga-Deutsche, sending even mildly suspected enemies or soldiers who accidentally got encircled to concentration camps… just for instance)

    Think of how many Soviet boondoggles we know of from Solzhenitsyn. Shit adds up. Malice plus incompetence plus even greater unquestionable “just do it, don’t you know a war is on!” …20 million is very much a non inconceivable number.

    We have to refuse to entertain, even think it, to avoid the alternatives.

    This is an old customer service trick. If a customer is super unreasonable after you explain the math to them, they insist they deserve 20x, 100x the credit in the face of all logic, then you do the math in front of them, with a bit of annoying tone, WRONG.

    If they are in he heat of the moment enough, they will yell “No! Idiot! Can’t you do MATH?” and run through the correct arithmetic. Oh sir, gosh sir, sorry sir, that math IS correct, MY mistake. Thank goodness we can now walk hand in hand towards a resolution to your billing issue based on reality and logic now. (but sir, SIR, you said the math JUST NOW…)

    “Stalin killed 20 million of his own people during WW2”

    No! Fool! Can’t you do math!?!?!? It was only 10 million!!!!

    ONLY ten million, eh?

    So to avoid THAT cul-de-sac, refuse the subject matter altogether.

    I would occasionally do the CO2 math in front of AFKTT wrong, hoping he would get irate, pounce on me, and do the correct math himself – forever to be bookmarked, quoted, receipted – but he never would. Either too canny or too innumerate and we will never know which.

    #194249
    those darned kids
    Participant

    #194250
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Thousands of Russians in a mega-auditorium, all clapping, clapping clapping, unable to stop clapping for Stalin.

    Because why?

    They were afraid if they stopped clapping too early, they’d be pulled into an office by their boss next day?:

    “Hi Steve. I’ve heard some things. Don’t be nervous, this is just a Verbal Warning. The next steps would be First Written, Second Written, and Final Written prior to firing. Remember, we call it Corrective Action because we don’t want it to be merely punitive. The main thing is, we’re trying to help coach you – in this case, on your clapping – to better performance. We’re not looking to fire you, we want you to succeed and thrive, Steve. Here’s how you can clap for Stalin better…”

    no, thousands of Russians wholeheartedly, effusively, UNANIMOUSLY agreed, with every ounce of energy in their bodies, after clapping an appropriate amount of time, then clapping a truly ridiculous amount of time, that failing to clap until you collapsed unconscious could result in death or a concentration camp. And clearly NOT a SMALL chance of it.

    Thousands of Russians were polled AND UNANIMOUSLY believed you could die on even the most petty, ridiculous basis of disloyalty to Stalin. Why on earth disagree with them?

    #194251
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #194252
    Topcat
    Participant

    The last person to talk to Trump before he ‘decides’ (anything) is who he sides with.

    Has Trumpatard had a War=Whore relapse or he’s playing 7-D Checkers on the Deep Shit State.

    Your guess

    Trumptard News Flash:

    He rules out US boots on the ground, BUT

    Trumptard floats the idea if Europe puts boots on the ground the US could provide AIR COVER.

    Hahahaha

    Trumptard is truly insane

    If the shoe fits…….

    Just because he always lies about everything doesn’t mean he should indulge this kind of diarrhea of the mouth, just saying whatever shit pops into his head.

    Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD)

    a mental health condition characterized by unusual levels of hyperactivity and impulsive behaviors.

    Common symptoms include:

    Difficulty paying attention
    Impulsiveness

    Compulsively changing your mind

    #194253
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    One of the 5 Eyes just winked out (Australia) of their constellation of world ruling power stars. Australia has pronounced that it favors and supports the international recognition of Palestine as a nation independent of Israel in all respects. If Israel loses it’s vampiric grip over Palestine then Israel stops being a nation almost overnight. They can’t survive a fortnight without the 10’s of billions of US Dollars that prop up every single aspect of their phony country. Lose Palestine and lose Israeli dominance over anything. Lose that and lose the Empire, as everyone rushes to be on good terms with the new Boss in town (BRICS+).

    That’s why the US and Israel are willing to murder as many babies as necessary to PREVENT the international legal recognition of Palestine as a full fledged nation independent from Israel in all respects. The instant that happens then the United States and Israel will no longer be able to whatever they want to Gaza with total impunity.

    Well, there won’t be any damned impunity after the recognition of Palestine, which is what’s known as the “Two State Solution”. And without that legal impunity the American Empire falls like a dead drunken sailor, unlikely to ever rise again.

    So don’t let the distraction and downplay fool ya. They want you to think the Two State Solution for Palestine is just another contentious argument in the Middle East. Well, it ain’t. It is the lynch pin, the tipping point, the “red line”, for the whole damn shootin’ match. Pay heed!

    #194254
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Picture the Romans tearing the Temple down. The guys who made a living from it have just never been the same ever since.

    #194255
    kultsommer
    Participant

    And, yet, Lavrov, proud of that particular county’s past and the people what they went through, was sporting CCCP on his sweatshirt. Something that, by now, I realize is beyond understanding of many in the west.

    Events viewed in the historical context and zeitgeist of particular era more “palatable”, given that we can not change what has happened. Understanding that Stalin was paranoid psychopath helps too for those who make an effort.

    #194257
    kultsommer
    Participant

    It appears that expelled were not only, what we would call today as “Zionists” or “hard right” ones.
    They expelled them ALL.

    #194258
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #194259
    zerosum
    Participant

    I figured out where/who/why/what are the problems to arriving at a peace agreement.

    EU leaders expressed deep skepticism about the Kremlin’s willingness to negotiate in good faith.

    … EU leaders

    … deep skepticism

    … in good faith.

    #194270
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Ouch….file under

    Here’s a comment exchange and both respondents are neither right nor wrong because

      “the rise ALWAYS precedes the INFLECTION POINT”

    So, the point should be the BAD, all should agree, started “happening” (((passively, passive voice)))
    before Week 14 of 2021 for kids and adults AND for that rarest of persons SEEN around that time, late 2020 to early 2021.

    Excerpted:

      Leverett

       1 day ago

      That vertical line in Figure 1 appears to coincide with the early days of COVID in the USA (early 2020), and not with the mass rollout of mRNA injections in early 2021. Am I reading it wrong?

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      The Ethical Skeptic

      Author

       Reply to  Leverett

       1 day ago

      You are reading it wrong. These are full-year counts. 2021 was almost a full year of vaxx impact. 2020 bears zero elevation.

    Very bad.
    Read it yourself.

    Houston, We Have Another Problem

    #194271
    WES
    Participant

    Fed’s Jackson Hole Fishing Trip:

    Americans will be delighted to know Powell was in Jackson Hole fishing for cutthroat trout!

    #194278
    John Day
    Participant

    @Dr.D.Rich: Yes!
    Glad you are reading The Ethical Skeptic.

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