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    Oroboros
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    Executive Order

    Humor is back trolling

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    #179965
    Oroboros
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    Let me connect the dots for you on “preemptive pardons”

    If the Supreme Clowns let this stand by action or inaction, it means Trump can also issue them.

    So if Trump gives someone, anyone, a “preemptive pardon”, it means they can put a bullet in Fauci’s brain and skate scott-free.

    So don’t be sad

    Don’t worry be happy.

    #179966
    Oroboros
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    First Commemorative Stamp of 2025

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    #179967
    Oroboros
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    Go for it He/Haw/They/Them!

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    Feel the Burn Bernie

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    #179970
    Dr. D
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    “Former Oakland Mayor Charged In Alleged Corruption Scheme

    Well it’s about time. Somebody was arrested. That’s one.

    “Trump Pardons Approximately 1,500 Jan. 6 Political ‘Hostages’

    Also about time. Congress could have done this before, but: Republicans. Stabbin’ allies, makin’ s—t up. And now they’re out of allies.

    “WTF: Asylum Seekers Caught With 30,000 High-Caliber Rifle Rounds In Arizona

    Well, that’s just a few…wait, .50 cal? And hold on, I know that’s how I always apply for asylum, with a rail car of small arms in tow. Usually asylum means you’re broke, so you know $100k of ready cash really helps out.

    So how’d they hide it? They didn’t they just filled the car with boxes saying “50 cal” But we ain’t sus.

    “Democracy Falls As Man Who Received The Most Votes Becomes President “ –BBee

    Sad day.

    “Elderly Dementia Patient Cruelly Evicted From Home” –Bbee The humanity.

    Cleaning Crew Arrives At White House To Get Rid Of Old Man Smell” –Bbee

    “PayPal has finally admitted that it DEBANKED people because of their views on COVID-19.” –Armstrong.

    PayPal Mafia. Now the point here is we’ve moved it to consensus reality. As usual. They can constantly keep up by issuing a thing, denying it, punishing anyone who stands up, holding out, then admitting it at last and moving on. The more pressure they lay on it, the less things spring back to before. So you take 100%, give back 70%, then take 100% of the remainder tomorrow. That’s why it’s important to execute the people or the companies wherever legally possible. This one is indeed a Human Rights abuse on 1A, prove me wrong.

    Since they admit they did this, do they admit others? Then let’s – it’s required to – count them up and issue $1M/pc settlement.

    “Trump Takes US Out of Paris Climate Agreement With New Executive Orders”

    I’d ask if he can do that, but it’s not a Treaty to begin with. I’ll keep an ear out, it’s not that important.

    “Federal workers must return to full-time in-person work immediately”

    I wonder if the reason for this is they just log in and hand the mouse to a WEF worker in Belgium. Probably not, they’re Socialists, that would be work. WEF would outsource it to India.

    MSNBC: They all said this would never happen. Just like everything else. Thoughts?

    Here’s an idea: so…Trump sent out the election report to all agencies. No leaks were had and he left without action. Now at that point did he call a “Continuity of Government”? That is, the rules you would install if, say, China took D.C. and installed their Quisling in the White House? There are two ways about that: you are required to FIGHT them. You are not required to ADMIT it. IF such a case were to occur, there would of course be two governments. The people only NEED to believe in one of them. The other one is required to issue edicts, but those edicts do not need to be public. In such a case, inevitably the population will be likewise divided, that is not unusual. Yet One of the two governments is most probably the (more) legal one. The people need to choose. These are all Continuity of Government Plans, CoG for coups, revolutions, invasions, war, so of course they have them, every nation does.

    So is what is happening today the legal removal of the Biden coup and the re-establishment of legal government? What would that even mean in these terms? But we saw a lot of strange things all along and even more strange today, as Biden released an exec order – arguably ending a CoG — that was on for 4 years just before leaving. IF such a thing happened – and you didn’t tell anyone – how are you going to tell anyone after? I think they might be mad. Nevertheless, that’s how everyone is ACTING. Remember originally, no one would follow orders at all, it went without saying, they invaded the White House grounds, snuck in to take pictures with sleeping Baron, had Trump arrested, didn’t even occur to them NOT to do that. They didn’t even hide it, texted in plain sight. This time no. Media all say when Trump gives orders they’ll be followed. He won’t be murdered.

    Why?

    Well if what I’m proposing happened, it makes sense. First time, they got in, got Comey’s safe, got Epstein’s tapes, got classified records to see who’s who. But looking at the records would take years. The people were not on board. These are some of the records they searched MarLago for. On the way out, Trump issues secret pocket projects that “Biden” (who doesn’t exist) would indeed cancel, but can’t because he doesn’t know they exist, what names they run under. Siloing. National Security. Government is too big and YOU wanted it that way, suck it. So these guys have been in, with full top secret clearance, reading Biden’s mail (legally) and slowly squeezing out MI6 and Balfour in spycraft, just being ahead of them and knowing better. We were almost victorious even in Oct 2020, but needed just this one layer more.

    So they have at this point, maybe one by one, gone down and talked to every “7th Floor” mole for MI6, China, tapped them on the shoulder and put the manila folder on their desk. A few a month in careful sequence for 4 years. This may be official but it doesn’t have to be. It’s just “You were blackmailed for Kiev last week, this week you’re working for us. No changes.” Yes boss.

    This is slowly, methodically is worked through in order of need, then we UN-Continuity of Government, Military control, and reinstall. We don’t have a “Two term” problem (which is still arguable to the USSC) because Trump was sidelined while the “Caretaker” military government was in, had it on pause.

    Now a LOT of bad things from that did NOT happen. The enemy was weaker than we thought. MI6 tried to roll us, tried to start WWII, tried to assassinate, but essentially, we just squeezed them out with no incident like a big, fat boa constrictor. Day after day, hour after hour, just like Avdiivka. Britain is utterly collapsing. They didn’t want to concede. Their bonds are broken, the Pound is dead, Ukraine is default, we are taking Greenland and Canada as trade. Musk is sicced on Starmer, now BOTH parties fall: Torys in the election, they’ve ceased to exist, Labour right now, with the biggest scandal in earth history. No GOVERNMENT in UK, and certainly no King. Leaving an open field so the PEOPLE can get the UK back. Don’t f—k with us, we’re only getting started. Remember last time we were mad we nuked somebody. Twice.

    That leaves Europe, but I’ll leave it at that for now. We are issuing what? WE’RE LEAVING EUROPE. We ain’t your b—h. And were re-establishing the Monroe Doctrine and taking the Western Hemisphere. Missiles are sitting on Greenland, pointed at Berlin and Russia, Canada is working for us now, not UK, and we need Panama to move oil and join the coasts. Clear as day, couldn’t be clearer. El Salvador, Melei invited, run by Wall St, Rubio, the CUBAN as Sec. Spanish. Now rot where you stand.

    “The IRS and Income Tax is COMING TO AN END in America! The External Revenue Service was the first step to achieve this goal. Oh my God… it’s really happening.”

    Words were said. By the Law of “Nothing Ever Happens” nothing is Happening.

    Warren: she’s a fake Indian, but remember: she’s also a fake Republican. She switched parties. Fauxahontas. And “Worse than what?”

    So I’m sensing she has fear, panic, and no specific plans nor actions. Thanks, very helpful. “We’re going resist! By Feeeeeeling.”

    Panama: “Low Key controlling”? Yeah, um, that’s just making things up. Anglos never hold any treaties and not this one either. No. That’s not legal. I mean, at least stage a fake incident or something. Anyway, realpolitik, see above. I kinda don’t care, we’re preempting the next obvious counterattack on us and we’ve sort of lost patience with it.

    “On January 6, 2021, a group of Trump supporters broke through security barriers and briefly overran the Capitol building,”

    No they didn’t. Show me these weren’t FBI. The others didn’t “break” barriers that were passively removed by CPD, and they didn’t “Overrun” a building Police were taking selfies in. Show me. NPR reporters, every minute, every day a new lie.

    “• Host of Senior Diplomats Get Marching Orders as Trump Purges State Dept (Sp.)

    As above. We now have a list of who was on the Diddy tapes and being talked to by Kpop, and they are being asked not to come to work for now. Without ACTIVE traitors, blackmailed and directed, we can behave normally for a change.

    “the marching orders were not personal, said one resigning diplomat. “It is entirely appropriate for the transition to seek officials who share President Trump’s vision”

    This part is normal even without blackmail. They seem to be respecting the “Political” jobs vs the “Staff” jobs, as is our custom.

    “• Trump Rolls Back Transgender Rights and DEI (RT)

    As with everything I say this week, he doesn’t have the power. Or Biden didn’t have the power to enact it in the first place. They need USSC to put this s—t back in the box.

    Since this is endemic right now, they’ve developed and popularized a language and study for it. These DEI are “Luxury Beliefs” that allow “Virtue Signaling” (we know that one, I’m not going into their university jargon), which are a way of fighting for an attaining valuable status – meaning money, positions – among the overpopulated elite. You see THEY are overproduced, not us. As usual. Ever try to get a guy to roof your house? Yeah, see, too FEW of them, too MANY Gender Studies Professors. A key to this is whether there is a “Cost” signal or a “No cost” signal that has no barrier to entry. So they are clawing corporate ladder, destroying the working people, chasing money, by SIGNALING that they are good communists, socialists, allies, but really duplicitous, elite, racist, sexist sociopaths without morals. This is how they’re sorted and chosen. So the person who signals MOST is best off – that is, the most radical, in a purity spiral. That can happen, like junk mail, if the cost of signaling such purity is free.

    Now in a normal system, — academic for instance – no signaling is free, if you propose a theory it will always be confronted, discussed, disagreed with. That’s Science. The key is to get a mode where the signal is free and one-directional. Then the people are a mob, you direct from on high with light touches, the “rod” of the “Shepherd” on the sheep. Baaa. And you have them do this:

    The surest way to work up a crusade in favour of some good cause is to promise people that they will have a chance of maltreating someone. … To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behaviour ‘righteous indignation’ — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.
    Aldous Huxley, Introduction (July 24, 1933), Samuel Butler, Erewhon (1934).

    All engineered on purpose, not a single organic thing in it, just like Wiemar Germany. This is NOT human nature. This is torture. You need them to go nuts? Start a war that kills everyone they can’t possibly win? Start 20 years before (with torture) in schools, run the “Political Correct” make up some weird dumb enemy, a new religion, and run this. We may be the first time in centuries it hasn’t worked, but remains to be seen.

    “Free speech returns.
    • Trump Signs Executive Order Against ‘Censorship’ (RT)

    Nice, now tell Elon. He’s still censoring.

    ““Donald Trump’s “madman” strategy continues to defy conventional wisdom, forcing even his fiercest critics to play along.”

    Yeah, it’s all show. Not a single thing has happened and you’re all running around on fire. “these moves could be dismissed as political trolling,”

    “it’s Denmark that’s really on edge.” Who?

    A nation the size of Staten Island? “I don’t think about you at all.” Okay man.

    “the American media has cultivated his image as an erratic, dangerous madman.”

    They do this AT THE SAME TIME, saying he’s an idiot. AT THE SAME TIME as saying it’s all in his “Art of the Deal.” Schrodinger’s Reality…a la carte. All things are true. BothNeitherAi. I dunno, you tell ME why any of it works? Because they’re morons? You TELL them you are running the left side pass play. You then run the left side pass play. They complain you’re madman, they never saw it coming. Right! We’re running the left side pass play… Cat Laser! Sharpiegate! 13 years in a row.

    “• Joe Biden Issues Last Minute Family Pardon (RT)

    There are legal consequences if any of them accept. For one it’s a Legal (if not actual) admission of guilt. They can all be subpoenaed. Many (others) have refused pardons for this reason, and if any of them are innocent, they should…Jill, Tony. That’s why it’s a great way to sort them, choose who you’re after first.

    “• Despite Biden Pardon, Fauci Still Faces Legal Perils (Thacker)

    Well, we need to Covid truth to be determined and put on record, but for now why not charge him with killing those 500,000 gay guys? Don’t they count? He takes the pardon and we put him under oath first for the next thing, then go arrest DoD. We can nuke Porton Down.

    For the sake of public trust in science – explaining what killed 20 million people – that a complete account is much more important”

    20 million. Puts to light those six million we’ve been hearing about and have directed public policy for generations. History will look back on this and those 20 million the same or worse. There was no war. The people didn’t fight. Children were rounded up and stabbed. It’s a madhouse.

    “• Russia Congratulates Trump – Putin (RT)

    This got high in the news. Yeah, like everything, it’s perfectly ordinary, major nations always call. Always.

    “..Lavrov said that the outgoing administration was trying to “spoil the whole thing for the next administration before the end of their mandate.”

    Yes, because if he gets in and UK is shoved out, it’s over.

    “Not to mention about 1000 other current and former public officials quaking in their Beltway McMansions this frosty morning.”

    It’s 6am, why haven’t they been arrested yet? Impeach. I need to write my Congressman and ask why the FBI is still open.

    “Most Democrats Think Their Party Sucks, Feel “Burned Out”: CNN Poll (ZH)

    Pretty well established (Google search terms, NYT, etc) that they did this day after Occupy because they thought they only needed a small push, a short window to end democracy, get us all going into WWIII technofascism. Like always. So they pulled the pin on this one-way trip, and a third(?) of the nation are still trapped by it. By their own assumptions. Because people will much rather die than be wrong. That’s not some kind of hyperbole, look it up.

    Our team merely diverted it, didn’t AVOID the blow (they are soldiers) but didn’t let it fully land, like any boxer would be very familiar with. This also burned valuable TIME, and let the BERNIE Bros – hey is that Joe Rogan, Jimmy Dore, Tim Pool?? — to see the Democratic Party for what it is at last, take the mask off. This took a long time but there are critical choices here: they did NOT back up, blame, save, etc. They did NOT then allow them to start another, more successful plan. They DID make them think they were winning, so they would continue on. And they did NOT take any real damage from their position.

    Being strong while appearing weak, they then prompted the DNC Lettermen to do it AGAIN, since it worked. Then AGAIN. Again, again again, taking no damage, revealing the mask. Obviously it’s no fun to get punched, as we all found out. However, it’s better than the alternatives. We talk about Russia definitely nuking everyone if they were losing. What if they thought they were losing to the GOP and released Smallpox? They very nearly did, in fact, if all deaths at all related (it’s really advanced shortening of life with turbocancer) it may BE as bad. But it sort of isn’t because it’s better to play death over time. Every WWII soldier is dead, but not all of them died in the 2 years of the war, you know. If they die from 1945-2025 in the VA Home, it IS different.

    So they had to make Frazier think he was winning, day after day, year after year. And not realize Ali was holding back. Because this Frazier can nuke the arena and everyone in it, and would, instantly.

    Back to this, the DNC is worn out. Why? I said before, “Panic” is a SHORT-term emotion. “Terror” is a SHORT-term emotion. These are emotions in wars because wars are all about TIME. You only win by OVERRUNNING the enemy, FASTER than they can shoot back. …This was shown in Ukraine where we gave them one tank a month.

    But their strategy, since 08 Occupy, was all SHORT term. It’s W’ Bush Blitzkrieg, the Nazi coming out Party. “We create reality, and while you’re figuring out what to do, we overrun you again…” No, we failed at that. Strategy change. Okay, you want to blitzkrieg, you got us. We’ll do a Russia. Back up, then back up, then back up, then back up…how much territory can you hold, Mr. Israel? 2X your size? 5X? 10X? Everyone has limits. They they were forcing “Lighting actions” to be held in situ for months…then years…then decades…then now. They cannot hold the material tension (no shells, no ships) but they can’t hold the EMOTIONAL tension.

    The Nazi Party is exhausted. The DNC is sapped, emotionally empty, hollow. They even WANT to panic,
    “When in trouble,
    When in doubt
    Run in circles
    Scream and shout.”

    But they’re just too tired. See it on all social media, same WORDS, signaling, but no emotional hormones to charge it. No actual response of action, like Warren showed. Here they’re all lined up for confirmation…
    …Nothing. The ENTIRE DNC, the ENTIRE Congress, the ENTIRE Media…nothing. They had nothing to throw at even a dreadful Hegseth. They’re tapped. Out of ammo. Chasiv Yar. The Russian army hasn’t even started advancing.

    Same with the original: soooo…ya know Hitler isn’t too into the war, he wishes they’d sue peace so he could get on with the Glorious Reich. But he’s going to hold Spain to the Caucus? On a Blitz basis? Okay man, you do you. What he would NEED to do, is create an EU, have referendums, bribe and puppet leaders like “The Penetrator”. …Oh wait…

    “Former White House strategist Steve Bannon has warned that US President-elect Donald Trump could become entangled in the Ukraine conflict if he doesn’t take immediate steps to limit Washington’s involvement.”

    Bannon has his place and he’s not wrong. That place is on the outside where we can shout at him.

    ““..at least two thirds of Israelis, judging by the polls, will be satisfied at this stage” with the return of the hostages, and will consider it “a victory in this war..”

    Yeah, that’s a complete loss. The REAL complete loss is making them admit it. This is what will happen in Syria, which they can’t control or hold.

    If you missed it, Pastor Pio of Greek prophesy, the Mayor of Istambul (Erdogan) will be leader. He will REDUCE tensions (sure doesn’t seem it, but comparatively yes, didn’t attack Cyprus) then when THAT guy goes, the next leader immediately closes the straits (why) and Russia attacks. Why is that we see both why Russia can’t/isn’t in the mood to screw around in the sea vs Med right now. Russia has also completely had it with Turkey. This all involves Israel, Revelation, Gog and Magog, etc. But the key here is Greece is too weak, merely holds ground, which works. Turkey ceases to exist, that is, broken up into ethnic parts, Kurdistan, etc. Straits are given to Greece, being no better option. Now you can see why IF they tied with Russia, this would not be a problem. But Erdogan is constantly turning against Russia, as Turks do. (Why????) AFTER they saved him from the U.S. coup. (Why????) Russia erases their ability to do this. This would not be possible in 1970, 80. 90, 2000. Not really in 2010. Only now.

    This broken, uncontrollable, massive force 5x Israel is now on their northern border thanks to their own pin-headed stupidity and love of senseless violence. No one on earth can put it back, because A) Europe has no army B) There is no regional cohesive force. Welcome to the hell you wanted, suckers. Hope it was worth it. C) This doesn’t bother Russia much at all, being far away. D) Gas to Europe is cut off, bye bye pipelines.

    E) Europe can only buy gas for decades from U.S. and Russia at 10x the price. The U.S. buys Nordstream so Europe (Britain) can’t bomb it, and all the sales profits in it strengthen Russia. Bye 500 years of colonies and endless world wars.

    “• Putting an End to Trump Derangement Syndrome (J. Peder Zane)

    If only. What do you do with old Nazis, after the war? All the moms who sent their sons, squealed on their families, ruined their husbands? And all still believe. Reform? Send a “Sorry” card?

    “• Secretary of Forever Wars: Antony Blinken’s Blood-Soaked Legacy (Sp.)

    Protege of Albright. If only we had more women, there’d be no wars.

    Penguin can’t be out there alone, where are his people? You wouldn’t do that to a 10 year old. …Or a 40 year old.

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    Oroboros
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    #179972
    Dr. D
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    #179973
    those darned kids
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    rfk is using a metal spatula on a teflon pan – he’ll kill them dogs!

    make america pfas again!

    #179975
    Oroboros
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    #179976
    Oroboros
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    Regular pardons, not preemptive ones, mean that the person receiving them no longer has any 5th amendment rights.

    They have to testify truthfully under oath.

    If they lie at that point their pardon is null and void.

    Fauci will have to throw his ‘fellow travelers’ under the bus at that point.

    Big Pharma execs are gangsters with ‘means’.

    I wonder if Fauci will ‘suddenly disappear’ and sleep with the fishes.

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    #179977
    zerosum
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    LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

    Lies and exaggerations MUST BE accompanied by Documentations

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/initial-rescissions-of-harmful-executive-orders-and-actions/
    INITIAL RESCISSIONS OF HARMFUL EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND ACTIONS
    EXECUTIVE ORDER
    January 20, 2025

    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:

    Section 1. Purpose and Policy. The previous administration has embedded deeply unpopular, inflationary, illegal, and radical practices within every agency and office of the Federal Government. The injection of “diversity, equity, and inclusion” (DEI) into our institutions has corrupted them by replacing hard work, merit, and equality with a divisive and dangerous preferential hierarchy. Orders to open the borders have endangered the American people and dissolved Federal, State, and local resources that should be used to benefit the American people. Climate extremism has exploded inflation and overburdened businesses with regulation.

    To commence the policies that will make our Nation united, fair, safe, and prosperous again, it is the policy of the United States to restore common sense to the Federal Government and unleash the potential of the American citizen. The revocations within this order will be the first of many steps the United States Federal Government will take to repair our institutions and our economy.

    Sec. 2. Revocation of Orders and Actions. The following executive actions are hereby revoked:

    Executive Order 13985 of January 20, 2021 (Advancing Racial Equity and Support for Underserved Communities Through the Federal Government).
    Executive Order 13986 of January 20, 2021 (Ensuring a Lawful and Accurate Enumeration and Apportionment Pursuant to the Decennial Census).
    Executive Order 13987 of January 20, 2021 (Organizing and Mobilizing the United States Government To Provide a Unified and Effective Response To Combat COVID-19 and To Provide United States Leadership on Global Health and Security).
    Executive Order 13988 of January 20, 2021 (Preventing and Combating Discrimination on the Basis of Gender Identity or Sexual Orientation).
    Executive Order 13989 of January 20, 2021 (Ethics Commitments by Executive Branch Personnel).
    Executive Order 13990 of January 20, 2021 (Protecting Public Health and the Environment and Restoring Science To Tackle the Climate Crisis).
    Executive Order 13992 of January 20, 2021 (Revocation of Certain Executive Orders Concerning Federal Regulation).
    Executive Order 13993 of January 20, 2021 (Revision of Civil Immigration Enforcement Policies and Priorities).
    Executive Order 13995 of January 21, 2021 (Ensuring an Equitable Pandemic Response and Recovery).
    Executive Order 13996 of January 21, 2021 (Establishing the COVID-19 Pandemic Testing Board and Ensuring a Sustainable Public Health Workforce for COVID-19 and Other Biological Threats).
    Executive Order 13997 of January 21, 2021 (Improving and Expanding Access to Care and Treatments for COVID-19).
    Executive Order 13999 of January 21, 2021 (Protecting Worker Health and Safety).
    Executive Order 14000 of January 21, 2021 (Supporting the Reopening and Continuing Operation of Schools and Early Childhood Education Providers).
    Executive Order 14002 of January 22, 2021 (Economic Relief Related to the COVID-19 Pandemic).
    Executive Order 14003 of January 22, 2021 (Protecting the Federal Workforce).
    Executive Order 14004 of January 25, 2021 (Enabling All Qualified Americans To Serve Their Country in Uniform).
    Executive Order 14006 of January 26, 2021 (Reforming Our Incarceration System To Eliminate the Use of Privately Operated Criminal Detention Facilities).
    Executive Order 14007 of January 27, 2021 (President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology).
    Executive Order 14008 of January 27, 2021 (Tackling the Climate Crisis at Home and Abroad).
    Executive Order 14009 of January 28, 2021 (Strengthening Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act).
    Executive Order 14010 of February 2, 2021 (Creating a Comprehensive Regional Framework To Address the Causes of Migration, To Manage Migration Throughout North and Central America, and To Provide Safe and Orderly Processing of Asylum Seekers at the United States Border).
    Executive Order 14011 of February 2, 2021 (Establishment of Interagency Task Force on the Reunification of Families).
    Executive Order 14012 of February 2, 2021 (Restoring Faith in Our Legal Immigration Systems and Strengthening Integration and Inclusion Efforts for New Americans).
    Executive Order 14013 of February 4, 2021 (Rebuilding and Enhancing Programs To Resettle Refugees and Planning for the Impact of Climate Change on Migration).
    Executive Order 14015 of February 14, 2021 (Establishment of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships).
    Executive Order 14018 of February 24, 2021 (Revocation of Certain Presidential Actions).
    Executive Order 14019 of March 7, 2021 (Promoting Access to Voting).
    Executive Order 14020 of March 8, 2021 (Establishment of the White House Gender Policy Council).
    Executive Order 14021 of March 8, 2021 (Guaranteeing an Educational Environment Free From Discrimination on the Basis of Sex, Including Sexual Orientation or Gender Identity).
    Executive Order 14022 of April 1, 2021 (Termination of Emergency With Respect to the International Criminal Court).
    Executive Order 14023 of April 9, 2021 (Establishment of the Presidential Commission on the Supreme Court of the United States).
    Executive Order 14027 of May 7, 2021 (Establishment of the Climate Change Support Office).
    Executive Order 14029 of May 14, 2021 (Revocation of Certain Presidential Actions and Technical Amendment).
    Executive Order 14030 of May 20, 2021 (Climate-Related Financial Risk).
    Executive Order 14031 of May 28, 2021 (Advancing Equity, Justice, and Opportunity for Asian Americans, Native Hawaiians, and Pacific Islanders).
    Executive Order 14035 of June 25, 2021 (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Accessibility in the Federal Workforce).
    Executive Order 14037 of August 5, 2021 (Strengthening American Leadership in Clean Cars and Trucks).
    Executive Order 14044 of September 13, 2021 (Amending Executive Order 14007).
    Executive Order 14045 of September 13, 2021 (White House Initiative on Advancing Educational Equity, Excellence, and Economic Opportunity for Hispanics).
    Executive Order 14049 of October 11, 2021 (White House Initiative on Advancing Educational Equity, Excellence, and Economic Opportunity for Native Americans and Strengthening Tribal Colleges and Universities).
    Executive Order 14050 of October 19, 2021 (White House Initiative on Advancing Educational Equity, Excellence, and Economic Opportunity for Black Americans).
    Executive Order 14052 of November 15, 2021 (Implementation of the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act).
    Executive Order 14055 of November 18, 2021 (Nondisplacement of Qualified Workers Under Service Contracts).
    Executive Order 14057 of December 8, 2021 (Catalyzing Clean Energy Industries and Jobs Through Federal Sustainability).
    Executive Order 14060 of December 15, 2021 (Establishing the United States Council on Transnational Organized Crime).
    Executive Order 14069 of March 15, 2022 (Advancing Economy, Efficiency, and Effectiveness in Federal Contracting by Promoting Pay Equity and Transparency).
    Executive Order 14070 of April 5, 2022 (Continuing To Strengthen Americans’ Access to Affordable, Quality Health Coverage).
    Executive Order 14074 of May 25, 2022 (Advancing Effective, Accountable Policing and Criminal Justice Practices To Enhance Public Trust and Public Safety).
    Executive Order 14075 of June 15, 2022 (Advancing Equality for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, and Intersex Individuals).
    Executive Order 14082 of September 12, 2022 (Implementation of the Energy and Infrastructure Provisions of the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022).
    Executive Order 14084 of September 30, 2022 (Promoting the Arts, the Humanities, and Museum and Library Services).
    Executive Order 14087 of October 14, 2022 (Lowering Prescription Drug Costs for Americans).
    Executive Order 14089 of December 13, 2022 (Establishing the President’s Advisory Council on African Diaspora Engagement in the United States).
    Executive Order 14091 of February 16, 2023 (Further Advancing Racial Equity and Support for Underserved Communities Through the Federal Government).
    The Presidential Memorandum of March 13, 2023 (Withdrawal of Certain Areas off the United States Arctic Coast of the Outer Continental Shelf from Oil or Gas Leasing).
    Executive Order 14094 of April 6, 2023 (Modernizing Regulatory Review).
    Executive Order 14096 of April 21, 2023 (Revitalizing Our Nation’s Commitment to Environmental Justice for All).
    Executive Order 14099 of May 9, 2023 (Moving Beyond COVID-19 Vaccination Requirements for Federal Workers).
    Executive Order 14110 of October 30, 2023 (Safe, Secure, and Trustworthy Development and Use of Artificial Intelligence).
    Executive Order 14115 of February 1, 2024 (Imposing Certain Sanctions on Persons Undermining Peace, Security, and Stability in the West Bank).
    Executive Order 14124 of July 17, 2024 (White House Initiative on Advancing Educational Equity, Excellence, and Economic Opportunity Through Hispanic-Serving Institutions).
    Executive Order 14134 of January 3, 2025 (Providing an Order of Succession Within the Department of Agriculture).
    Executive Order 14135 of January 3, 2025 (Providing an Order of Succession Within the Department of Homeland Security).
    Executive Order 14136 of January 3, 2025 (Providing an Order of Succession Within the Department of Justice).
    Executive Order 14137 of January 3, 2025 (Providing an Order of Succession Within the Department of the Treasury).
    Executive Order 14138 of January 3, 2025 (Providing an Order of Succession Within the Office of Management and Budget).
    Executive Order 14139 of January 3, 2025 (Providing an Order of Succession Within the Office of the National Cyber Director).
    The Presidential Memorandum of January 3, 2025 (Designation of Officials of the Council on Environmental Quality to Act as Chairman).
    The Presidential Memorandum of January 3, 2025 (Designation of Officials of the Office of Personnel Management to Act as Director).
    The Presidential Memorandum of January 3, 2025 (Designation of Officials of the Office of Science and Technology Policy to Act as Director).
    The Presidential Memorandum of January 3, 2025 (Designation of Officials of the United States Agency for Global Media to Act as Chief Executive Officer).
    The Presidential Memorandum of January 3, 2025 (Designation of Officials of the United States Agency for International Development to Act as Administrator).
    The Presidential Memorandum of January 3, 2025 (Designation of Officials of the United States International Development Finance Corporation to Act as Chief Executive Officer).
    The Presidential Memorandum of January 6, 2025 (Withdrawal of Certain Areas of the United States Outer Continental Shelf from Oil or Natural Gas Leasing).
    The Presidential Memorandum of January 6, 2025 (Withdrawal of Certain Areas of the United States Outer Continental Shelf from Oil or Natural Gas Leasing).
    The Presidential Memorandum of January 14, 2025 (Certification of Rescission of Cuba’s Designation as a State Sponsor of Terrorism).
    The Presidential Memorandum of January 14, 2025 (Revocation of National Security Presidential Memorandum 5).
    Executive Order 14143 of January 16, 2025 (Providing for the Appointment of Alumni of AmeriCorps to the Competitive Service).
    Sec. 3. Implementation. (a) To effectuate the revocations described in section 2 of this order, the heads of each agency shall take immediate steps to end Federal implementation of unlawful and radical DEI ideology.

    (b) The Director of the Domestic Policy Council (DPC) and the Director of the National Economic Council (NEC) shall review all Federal Government actions taken pursuant to the orders, memoranda, and proclamations listed in section 2 of this order and take necessary steps to rescind, replace, or amend such actions as appropriate. Within 45 days of the date of this order, the Director of the DPC and the Director of the NEC shall submit to the President an additional list of orders, memoranda, and proclamations issued by the prior administration that should be rescinded, as well as a list of replacement orders, memoranda, or proclamations, to increase American prosperity.

    (c) The National Security Advisor (NSA) shall immediately begin a complete and thorough review of all National Security Memoranda (NSMs) issued from January 20, 2021, through January 20, 2025, for harm to national security, domestic resilience, and American values. No later than 45 days from the date of this order, the NSA shall recommend to the President NSMs for rescission.

    Sec. 4. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

    (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

    (ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

    (b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

    (c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

    THE WHITE HOUSE,

    January 20, 2025.
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    #179979
    Oroboros
    Participant

    If the last four years was a pizza

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    #179982
    zerosum
    Participant
    #179983
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The other angle on ‘preemptive pardons” is that they don’t cover the underlings and subordinates of Fauci and let’s say the staff of the J-6 committee members.

    They can all go to jail for decades and will not be happy with that arrangement and will squeal like stuck pigs.

    Their testimony against their bosses will enforce the condition that scum like Fauci will have to tell the truth about the Covid Plandemic.

    I doubt Fauci has anything remotely like world class security protection. It’s very expensive, like private fire fighters in LA hired by the wealthy for $2000 dollars an hour.

    Like the Healthcare CEO in NYC, Fauci is just as vulnerable to a shot in the back not only from the tens of thousands of people who had family members murdered by ‘Covid’ but from the Satanic blood drinking Pedo Deep State who would like him permanently silenced.

    Dead men tell no tales……

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    You have a point there….

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    #179984
    kultsommer
    Participant

    While not explicit, I think that “unspoken contract” that MAGA voters were expecting was that a lot of people needed to persecuted and jailed for a good reason. Preemptive pardons should be challenged.
    Golden years, for the most Americans, were post WWII, and people were even paying taxes. How to revert to that prosperity, that I think most are hoping for, when the Corps got the acquired taste of having a labor for next to nothing? Who will be buying those heavily taxed imports that will help to “abolish IRS and income tax obligations “?
    Right now there are over 10 mill home mortgages, mostly, and rents being 90 days late. People in nice, late model cars lining around the block in anticipation of free groceries at the church parking lot. Every honest analysis out there is pointing out that real economy fundamentals are bad and hardly a foundation for “expected greatness like never before”..

    #179986
    zerosum
    Participant

    • Host of Senior Diplomats Get Marching Orders as Trump Purges State Dept (Sp.)
    https://sputnikglobe.com/20250120/scores-of-senior-diplomats-given-marching-orders-as-trump-purges-bidens-state-dept—1121470512.html

    Trump has authorized over 20 “senior bureau officials” to take over vacated posts, with some of the newcomers having formerly serving in key roles during his first term, insiders added.
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    To be tested
    Are “preemptive” pardons legitimate legal instrument?

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    #179987
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @kultsommer

    “Preemptive pardons should be challenged”

    Preemptive pardons are literally a License to Kill

    Literally, anything goes.

    And President Trump now can issue them if he pleases to anyone he pleases.

    How about to family members of those murdered by Fauci?

    If they snuff Tony, it’s ‘No Fault Get Out of Jail Free’ carte blanche.

    And now for something completely different…

    #179988
    zerosum
    Participant

    Canada’s response to 25% tariff from Trump

    If Trump tariffs Canada, Trudeau backs ‘dollar-for-dollar’ matching response


    If Trump tariffs Canada, Trudeau backs ‘dollar-for-dollar’ matching response

    By Saba Aziz Global News
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    Population control. War. Pain Killers, fentanyl, are killing people.
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    #179989
    zerosum
    Participant
    #179990
    Dr D Rich
    Participant
      “This pardon — and specifically the blanket nature of the pardon — sends the message that so long as your candidate wins, partisan violence against law enforcement in the seat of our nation’s government is acceptable and can be an effective tool to accomplishing political ends,” the source said.

    The Source was in no way implicating SOTH Nancy Pelosi or ChJCS Mark Milley and their performance on Jannuary 6th 2021 while Don Trump was still Milley’s CiNC.


      Do nursing professionals have a higher level of secondary psychopathy?

      Nursing professionals exhibited a significantly higher level of secondary psychopathy than medical professionals (p = 0.04)

    Do they generally make this shit up? Secondary psychopathy? Are the researchers talking about the history of charge nurses and nursing supervisors “eating their young” as a sordid rite of passage for straight nurses?
    Orthopedists conducting research in psychology?

    #179991
    zerosum
    Participant

    Somebody noticed the following:
    Effective immediately, the Director of National Intelligence, in consultation with the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, shall revoke any current or active clearances held by the following individuals:
    (1) James R. Clapper Jr.
    (2) Michael V. Hayden
    (3) Leon E. Panetta
    (4) John O. Brennan
    (5) C. Thomas Fingar
    (6) Richard H. Ledgett Jr.
    (7) John E. McLaughlin
    (8) Michael J. Morell
    (9) Michael G. Vickers
    (10) Douglas H. Wise
    (11) Nicholas J. Rasmussen
    (12) Russell E. Travers
    (13) Andrew Liepman
    (14) John H. Moseman
    (15) Larry Pfeiffer
    (16) Jeremy B. Bash
    (17) Rodney Snyder
    (18) Glenn S. Gerstell
    (19) David B. Buckley
    (20) Nada G. Bakos
    (21) James B. Bruce
    (22) David S. Cariens
    (23) Janice Cariens
    (24) Paul R. Kolbe
    (25) Peter L. Corsell
    (26) Roger Z. George
    (27) Steven L. Hall
    (28) Kent Harrington
    (29) Don Hepburn
    (30) Timothy D. Kilbourn
    (31) Ronald A. Marks
    (32) Jonna H. Mendez
    (33) Emile Nakhleh
    (34) Gerald A. O’Shea
    (35) David Priess
    (36) Pamela Purcilly
    (37) Marc Polymeropoulos
    (38) Chris Savos
    (39) Nick Shapiro
    (40) John Sipher
    (41) Stephen B. Slick
    (42) Cynthia Strand
    (43) Greg Tarbell
    (44) David Terry
    (45) Gregory F. Treverton
    (46) John D. Tullius
    (47) David A. Vanell
    (48) Winston P. Wiley
    (49) Kristin Wood
    (50) John R. Bolton

    Goodbye “career in punditry’
    Without clearance they can’t sit on the boards of defense and intelligence contractors, which is how a lot of these traitors make a ton of money during their “retirement”.
    Ole MSM just lost a boatload of “according to 3 people familiar with …” providing anonymous and unverifiable “intel” for their stories.
    Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 21 2025 7:08 utc | 199

    #179993
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Kultsummer, all quite true. Yes, outside of the coast and lib bubbles, everyone knows the economy is like that. Apparently the plan is like this: Charge outside companies, build inside companies. That has bad transition costs until it starts to function (+5 years) so 1) Drill baby 2) Cut Federal spending (trillions spent are fake, like per every foreign military base, every F35, etc) 3) Shut the IRS (internal) tax to cause spending money (and votes).

    There already is no Capitalism, no economy, we are already in a state where we print money from nothing and centrally plan. Therefore 1) Give any stimulus you think up. 2) Bail out any bank you want to. 3) Same with insurers, Ford, Maytag, whoever. They’re already not corporations, who cares as long as they start to go there, ie back to making products and doing something, anything useful, and accurate pricing and normal rates increase.

    Wait! That will cause inflation. 1) No, we’re in deflation, everything is collapsing. 2) –Insert complexity here – but all inflation comes from government. 3) All “Inflation” is whether the world will eat our baseless dollar. 4) They will because Europe is a wreck and we’re about to punch them in the nuts, China is already poorly and they’ll need to transition as we squeeze them off. That is: thanks to no capitalism and universal central planning, we can print and control internal, external, on all banking, industry, consumers, and real estate. We’re already doing it, so it already can be done. Nothing new. The goal is to STOP doing it. Get OFF the Socialism, like Russia, but without the Disaster Capitalism.

    5) The best laid plans of men, and Central Planning always collapses.

    On the horizon: no pipelines as Syria and Turkey are hosed. No Red Sea. Meaning……..Ta Da! EUROPE IS BY THE BALLS as they have NO energy from ANYWHERE. Ever. That means they WILL buy U.S. oil…or die. They will also make peace with Russia and buy THEIR oil. …Or die. (But eating that crow will take longer)

    As we have no problems here, they are almost all fabricated, forced by government, we can EASILY cut the s—t, cut our oil use, NOT have all-electric cars, pump a little more, make peace with Venezuela (heavy crude) and SELL TO EUROPE. Without cutting ourselves at all. We were oil exporters like a year ago. And WE get dirt-cheap gas while they pay 10x for 30 years. …Same with Russia. Dirt-cheap internal energy, economic boom. Charging Europe crushing fees for being a dick (de facto Reparations).

    Europe was going to screw the world, now has problems. Maybe we won’t let them collapse, that’s bad for business: but we CAN charge them 10c under what bankrupts them, and keep it up for 30 years, sapping their GDP 10% for 30 years…or like Trillions. And Trillions. And Trillions. And Trillions.

    All that coming back here really takes the edge off, know what I mean? So when he just hands out $1,000, or $5,000 per person – ‘cause he wants, Biden set the precedent – then really EUROPE will pay. Europe politics are worse. Europe economy is worse. Europe rates are worse. Europe bonds are worse. Europe war is worse. All we need to do is outrun you, not the bear.

    That means we have ALL the maneuvering room we need, not you. The FED has room on the balance sheet, not you. Yeah, we suck really, really bad, 30-50, even 80 years, we know very VERY well. Screaming about it a lifetime now. But the only thing that matters is 1) We move in the right direction 2) We are one inch ahead of you doing it. That’s an easy, easy win.

    #179994
    zerosum
    Participant

    A facelift
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/news/
    News
    Remarks

    Briefings & Statements

    #179995
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/1/21/live-israeli-forces-raid-west-bank-as-ceasefire-sees-aid-trucks-reach-gaza

    At least eight Palestinians have been killed and dozens wounded in an Israeli army raid on Jenin, in the occupied West Bank, according to health officials.
    Israeli settlers have carried out out attacks and acts of aggression across the occupied West Bank, while dozens of Palestinians have been arrested in military raids.

    #179996
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Btw, I’m not gloating, and I don’t actually remember if you’re in Europe, only probably FROM Europe. This is totally not cool, and like every longstanding European citizen has been destroyed by a few asshats at the top. Problem is, I don’t care because they didn’t fight more than a limp dishrag. And even if we did care, one of us is going to drown and realpolitik means that’s not me.

    Now if they had fought like h–l, were tracking down traitorous leaders one by one, given up on social justice, doing hard work, arming and training to keep it, and be cohesive, all different actually. We’d know we could trust and ally with you. Sign up with the people at least. …Basically none of that is happening. As far as I can tell you’re decades, generations behind getting there, Canada probably isn’t even 1 in 1,000 people like that and they look like a Right Wing gun show compared to my impression of Europe.

    So I guess there is a way out. Work for yourself, you’ll find allies unknown and help unlooked-for. I’m quite sure you will. But is it fast enough?

    #179997
    jb-hb
    Participant

    There was a period of history when Normans were showing up everywhere. Taking over places from England to Italy to Syria.

    You grew up as landed nobility. Your older brother is going to inherit. You can join the clergy, I guess. Or serve your brother in some capacity – or someone like him?

    On the other hand, your position gave you quite a lot of training in certain military skills. If you want to have the same kind of position you grew up in, if you want RESPECT from your family and all the people you grew up with, you’re going to have to go find some other place and become baron, duke, king, whatever, of that place. So that’s why there’s a century where everyone from England to Syria is going “WTF, where did all these Normans come from?”

    DEI-Wokeism was “great” for western surplus managerial class because it invented new things – whole new realms of imagined reality – to manage. Which required more management positions. It also provided a religion to make a manager who does NOTHING GOOD or impedes real things, to feel like the Good One, the Right One, entitled.

    Sometimes I watch Youtubes of real estate tours. I also window-shop houses sometimes on zillow. I noticed an interesting thing, sort of a milquetoast “earthyness” and leftist signaling. A house that is clearly the home of a well-off millennial white liberal with, on the mantle, a picture of a pouting, resentful african american woman. (“centered” amirite?)

    A mansion with a giant “art” on the wall made of “native” hemp yarns and fabrics, not woven into any kind of tapestry or pattern, just 100 spools of it packed together into a frame. Tour guide vomiting effusive praise of its earthy indigenous something-something. White liberal homes scattered with symbols of “Earth” and “POC.” As if to bless the home? Like scattering crosses and little miniatures of saints around? That ubiquitous picture everyone’s grandma had of two hands put together in prayer? I did the observance, the blessing.

    It’s not enough, I think, to do yoga, have the proper symbol-display. The mansion was “earth-conscious” because 1/16th of the roof had succulents planted on it. This giant 20000 square foot house blasted into the cliff with dynamite, probably someone’s 5th or 6th home – damn you flithly MAGA plumber! I did obeisance to Earth with my partially-planted roof. You must ALSO do obeisance – agree to this policy that will starve you. I need to see my thing reflected in you.

    Both, as far as they understand it, purely symbolic gestures. And we know the way things work is, you separate into groups and do group activities in which nobody is a big meanie to each other or critical. The you do a “presentation” and people respond with positivity. 18 years of this type of schooling and then off to manage stuff – in which groups of people get together for meetings, are careful to not create conflict, be “positive,” and use each other to climb socially and in their career.

    in 2 Months of corporate training, separating into groups for “activities” seemed to be the answer to everything. I just wanted time to study and learn the material, but every second was filled with bullshitting and halfassing your way through “activities” on 1/20th the info you should be functioning on – in the most positive, complimentary way possible of course. Close to the end of training, I spoke up and asked to be left out so I could study — the other GenX’ers jumped in and asked for the same. LET ME STUDY. Some of the younger set seemed mildly confused and dismayed.

    The trainer who, in response to my concerns of unpreparedness, spoke to my feelings ABOUT unpreparedness carried herself with a certain level of polish, maintained a certain tone in the classroom. One day, as an experiment, I calmly, politely, asked questions about what she was presenting – enough questions that I would not get just a vague sense of the thing, but actually understand it, be able to make decisions, take actions in the job — she folded. Got super stressed, declared a 15 minute break. I wasn’t trying to achieve that effect, just see if I could get an understanding of the material from her. I don’t think anyone EVER understood that material from that presentation enough to actually DO things with it.

    A couple takeaways

    1. The education system K-Phd has turned into a place that trains you to keep things “nice” and maintain a certain tone – often to the exclusion of competency.

    2. Basically, it turned into a machine that turns out milquetoast non-specific middle managers. Good at being in meetings, inter-relating with other managers, careful not to make enemies, careful to know which way the wind is blowing and go along.

    Look at the school system – % of staff being teachers vs admin, salaries, etc

    The managers, unwisely, said “EVERYTHING should be ME” and made an educational system designed to make it difficult to become anything BUT them, which churned out a giant surplus of non-competent, non-specific, uncritical middle manager mindsets. MONEY PRINTING kept this sort of person employed and proliferating, managing things, making more rules. They SHOULD have made their class more exclusive somehow, to avoid becoming top-heavy, but that would be the opposite of a go-along-to-climb mentality.

    Trump is presumably going to cut off the printing press, the tax funding, etc, the end result being a shitton of unemployed middle managers? A generation fit mostly FOR middle management with no such positions to fill, be employed by?

    One way Trump’s 2016 election and the #RESISTANCE can be seen is as the managerial class rebelling against people who will stop their growth, possibly eliminate it. And a slap in the face that the world is not run the way they think it does — Icky because Trump does not act like people who have separated off for group activities ought to act! You are NOT supposed to act that way! You are supposed to go along, address feelings, stroke psychologically, agree with the discovered consensus, keep things nice.

    In Europe, many times, there have been wars that created a large group of soldiers and mercenaries. When the war ended, these people did not have an easy way to reintegrate in peacetime. Let’s say only 10% of all combatant armies cannot re-integrate into society. That’s still many thousands of roaming unemployed veteran soldiers turning to banditry or trying to overthrow local governments. Awful, society-destabilizing.

    What do you do with all the culturally-managerials? What else are they fit for? What will they do, left to themselves?

    The South started the shooting at Ft Sumter because whether they seceded or not, the same effect would be reached. The North was going to cut off any further GROWTH of slavery in the West. This was the ONE thing Lincoln had said he absolutely would do. Like telling a bunch of Norman 3rd and 4th sons they are stuck in Normandy. No honors, no status for you. Be content to join the clergy and oversee funerals and baptisms. Maybe be a clerk for your older brother. You’re going to cut us off from Western expansion, so we secede! Wait, damn it, you’re still going to cut us off from that, aren’t you?

    It was defeat the North and continue to expand slavery in the west – thus setting up more plantations, thus letting 2nd and 3rd sons have some expectation of the same life as their fathers – or go into the dry goods business, set up a general store, join the clergy? Get impassioned and fight, or become the thing you are not.

    Did this happen in your neighborhood during the lockdowns? I’d go for walks through the neighborhood and find multicolored chalk messages written on the sidewalk with vaguely positive HR-ish admonishments to not have “negativity” and have “good thoughts” — almost always, these were the houses with the “We Believe” rainbow on black background signs. Very obviously written by adults, but couched AS IF written by children, obviously in the children’s format of chalk-drawing. So much of their messaging seems trapped in that “Okay kidsie-widsies, time to do xyz thing” addressed to ADULTS. I see it a lot in the corporate world, in media. Sick of it.

    If, by govt firings, by cutting contracts with contractors, with cutting off money printing, perhaps with requiring the proper reserves for bank loans, we’re looking at a total clear-cutting of the managerials. How will the handle it? Where will they go, what will they do, what approach will they take psychologically to deal with the changes? The people simply won’t BE there to make and enforce these rules and ways of behaving, what meltdown will they have seeing people behaving “wrong”?

    What to do with all the unemployed locust mercenaries? The managerial war against free speech and competence is directly related to how they were trained for decades of just “how things work,” which they feel a deep attachment towards and are financially dependent on perpetuating. NOT acting like a group activity at school or a corporate meeting is wrong, deeply WRONG. That’s how we know, when you are being disagreeable, you’re awful. You’re breaking the unspoken rules, the “norms”.

    #179999
    zerosum
    Participant

    Wait, its happening. Again, there is change in the air.

    “What do you do with all the culturally-managerials? What else are they fit for? What will they do, left to themselves?”

    Remember – when there was pools of typists, secretaries. They disappeared. Mid management just took over and used the computers.

    What will happen to mid management?
    Will A.I. replace them and serve the upper managers, serve the decision makers, and serve the blue collar workers?

    #180000
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/elon-musk-announces-doge-s-first-official-act-as-trump-takes-over/ar-AA1xyES8?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=af1b292498684a43b2042d7597ec7042&ei=13

    Elon Musk has revealed the Department of Government Efficiency’s first task since Donald Trump returned to Oval Office.

    ‘It begins,’ the tech billionaire wrote alongside a post from the department’s official X account.

    The announcement comes just hours after a coalition of veterans, public health professionals, teachers, consumer advocates and watchdog groups filed a legal challenge in federal court against DOGE.

    The lawsuit was filed just after Trump’s swearing-in in Monday afternoon.

    It seeks an injunction against DOGE under the Federal Advisory Committee Act, alleging that Trump is operating the group without complying with federal transparency laws.

    #180001
    zerosum
    Participant

    Volodymyr Zelenskyy
    President of Ukraine
    Read them and weep.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-suspends-foreign-assistance-90-days

    President Donald Trump has signed an executive order on Monday suspending all US foreign assistance programs for 90 days while his staff reviews whether they are aligned with his policy goals.

    Trump has long railed against foreign aid despite the fact that such assistance typically amounts to roughly 1% of the federal budget, except under unusual circumstances such as the billions in weaponry provided to Ukraine.
    Trump has been critical of the amount shipped to Ukraine to help bolster its defenses against Russia’s invasion.

    The last official accounting of foreign aid in the Biden administration dates from mid-December and budget year 2023.
    It shows that $68 billion had been obligated for programs abroad that range from disaster relief to health and pro-democracy initiatives in 204 countries and regions. -AP

    Of course, Egypt ($1.5 billion / year + 1 US Congressman), Israel ($3.3 billion / year and most of Congress), and Jordan ($1.7 billion / year) are unlikely to see much of a reduction, as those amounts have been included in long-term packages, and are in some cases governed by treaty obligations.

    During Trump’s first term, he moved to reduce foreign aid spending – suspending payments to certain UN agencies, including the UN Population Fund, as well as funding to the Palestinian Authority. Trump also pulled out of the UN Human Rights Council, along with its financial obligations, while the Biden administration pulled funding from the UN agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA).

    #180004
    WES
    Participant

    Zerosum:

    Nice to see the 50 retired CIA officials are being targeted where it really hurts!
    In zapping their presumed entitled private pensions, earned while betraying their country!

    Now they each need to be run through the court system for good measure!
    Just like they routinely ran their victims through.

    Too bad the 50 couldn’t be sentenced to be Hanged, Drawn, and Quartered!

    #180005
    zerosum
    Participant

    Debt Ceiling. Nobody cares.
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/17/business/debt-ceiling-limit-congress/index.html

    https://www.crisesnotes.com/more-foia-memos-the-feds-2013-treasury-default-memo-just-in-time-for-another-round-of-debt-ceiling-politics/
    ————
    Who cares.

    https://www.weforum.org/meetings/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2025/
    World Economic Forum Annual Meeting
    ‘Collaboration for the Intelligent Age’

    Davos-Klosters, Switzerland

    The Annual Meeting 2025 convenes global leaders to address key global and regional challenges. These include responding to geopolitical shocks, stimulating growth to improve living standards, and stewarding a just and inclusive energy transition.

    #180006

    WES, from last night- Bugsicles!
    I had found some carpet beetle larva under one of my rugs, so I took advantage of the frigid temps to sterilize all of the wool rugs I could carry outside.
    Ticks, yes, but I’m particularly hopeful it will do a number on the emerald ash borer, which is doing some serious damage in my area.

    How long does one have to accept a “presidential” pardon?

    #180007
    WES
    Participant

    Less we forget.
    Zuckburg shorted DJT Media stock just before the Butler assassination.
    He knew.
    Waiting for an anvil to fall on Zuck!

    #180008
    jb-hb
    Participant

    you’ve got me considering blasting the attached/installed rug in my apartment with a CO2 fire extinguisher.

    #180019
    zerosum
    Participant

    Ceasefire violated. Israel “lawyered-up”
    I did not expect that the killing would continue In Lebanon, West Bank, etc.
    I expect that Israel had agreed to stop the genocide everywhere.
    I expected that Israel would stop killing by other means such as using med., food, water, and exposure to bad living conditions.

    #180020
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “I’m particularly hopeful it will do a number on the emerald ash borer, which is doing some serious damage in my area.”

    unstoppable. they have survived multiple winters here with absolutely no ash trees left anywhere, yet we still see them every spring.

    #180021
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    Exit stage left, ZOG installed commie, poopypants douchebag, no applause, BOOO! Enter, stage right, ZOG installed Chabad Lubavitch douchebag…starlink, spaceballs, transhumanist, AI utopia…YEA! Buy your Trumpsteincoin, pronto, or you’ll be shipped to Greenland’s beautiful new gulags and starve to death with the anti-semites.

    #180022
    WES
    Participant

    mpsk:

    Ticks and ash borers are apparently tough to kill since they can create their own anti – freeze.

    The best conditions for killing ticks is many days of -15 F cold temperatures with no snow cover.
    If there is plenty of snow cover, then cold temperatures mean little, as the snow insulates zee bugs!

    As for ash borers they are really hard to kill if they have plenty of snow cover.
    Per Minnesota, – 10 F will kill 34%, – 20 F will kill 79%, and – 30 F will kill 98%, (assuming little snow cover?)

    Here in Toronto, I think we are close to tick killing temperatures because we have very little snow cover, but sadly no where close to killing our ash borers.

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