Debt Rattle July 22 2025
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July 22, 2025 at 6:09 pm #192527
John Day
ParticipantHowzit Work https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/howzit-work
Matt Stoller describes the dynamic of our global, debt-based, Ponzi-schme economy, which degrades gradually and with plausible-deniability until the pretense of faith is shattered, but not yet, my 401k is worth $2.3 million now… The Number Go Up Rule: Why America Refuses to Fix Anything
In the Booming Twenties, all decision-making is about protecting the value of financial assets held by older people. Therefore, the number must go up. And nothing else matters. https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/the-number-go-up-rule-why-america The Honest Sorcerer, Societal Collapse Is Not a Bug…but it’s not the end of the world either
Living in small homes built entirely from locally available resources and using manpower alone is not a fairy tale. However, it will take an awful long time and a lot of hardship till we get to that point… again. This is how the story of building one civilization after the other based entirely on non-renewable resources always ends, and it won’t be any different this time either...
..What we’ve got on our hands here and now is the outcome of a predicament we entered ten thousand years ago. After repeated iterations of the many civilizations ravaged the entire planet, having reduced wildlife populations and the size of natural ecosystems to a mere fraction of their original size, there is no return to the caves, spears and bows either. At least not this century or the next. This civilization has no other option than to go through a long, protracted but nonetheless radical simplification. Even though we will eventually have to leave all modern technology behind, this won’t happen from one day to the next, nor voluntarily for that matter...
..Systems (be them physical, biological, economic, political etc.) which use energy the most efficiently always out-compete other, less efficient systems. This process ultimately leads to all available energy and resources being used up — hence the name: the Maximum Power Principle — a phenomenon first described by mathematician, physical chemist, and statistician Alfred Lotka a hundred years ago. In our case it meant that foragers were out-competed by agriculturists, who were in turn were out-competed by industrialists burning fossil fuels. Each step represented a jump in energy and resource consumption. Social complexity, science, technology, GDP growth were all downstream to this ever higher appropriation of energy and raw materials, eventually leading to the formation of world spanning empires. First the Dutch, the British, then the American led “rules based order”— each bigger and more powerful than its predecessor. Since we are rapidly approaching planetary limits when it comes to further increasing our energy and material throughput, it is doubtful we will ever see a world spanning empire again.
Our current path as a global civilization is wholly unsustainable, and thus will not be sustained for much too long. Before we could begin our long descent back to a more sustainable lifestyle, the current system has to collapse, though. Thanks to the maximum power principle it will not and cannot give up power until it exhausts all other options and folds under its own weight. Only then can we begin to charter our way towards a new equilibrium with Nature and begin the long healing process. This will naturally involve a need to redevelop counterbalances to our desires and finding the wisdom to say no to things which we could otherwise do. The regular redistribution of wealth, farmland or fishing patches, not to mention debt jubilees and potlatch (giving away or destroying wealth or valuable items) are all good places to start. https://thehonestsorcerer.substack.com/p/societal-collapse-is-not-a-bug Frances Leader (What is their power over us?), Who Really Rules The World? The Black Nobility’s grip on finance, war, and health.
The term “Black Nobility” is relatively modern, coined by these families themselves to sound mysterious and occult. Their origins trace back to the Roman Empire, claiming descent from senators driven out by the Visigoths centuries ago. Fleeing to the marshes of northern Italy, they founded Venice, a pirate stronghold that dominated Mediterranean trade. From Venice, they expanded to Amsterdam and then the City of London with William of Orange, establishing a financial empire independent of Britain.
Here are the episode highlights:
The Human Shield Tactic: Frances reveals how the Black Nobility use “human shields” to deflect blame. The British Empire, for instance, was never truly British—it was their empire, mislabeled to make the British people take the fall for its atrocities...
..The Three (Now Four) Power Centers: The Black Nobility operate through three key hubs: the Vatican (spiritual control), Washington, D.C. (military), and the City of London (finance). Each is an independent entity, not part of their respective nations. Frances drops a bombshell about a fourth hub emerging in Astana, Kazakhstan, a city built this century with in-your-face symbolism—phoenix gardens, Judaic towers, and ties to the ancient Tengri religion. Astana’s financial center adopting English as its official language is a clue it’s becoming a globalist nerve center…
..The Financial Trap: Frances breaks down the immoral banking system: central banks create money as loans, forcing us to repay with interest we must borrow again to cover—a perpetual debt cycle…
..No Legal Recourse: I ask if international laws like the Geneva Protocols or The Hague offer hope, but Frances is blunt: the United Nations, set up by the Black Nobility via the Club of Rome, is a trap. The Vatican’s observer seat and the City of London’s “Remembrancer” in British Parliament ensure these entities are untouchable…
..Hope in Human Creativity: Despite the bleak picture, Frances is optimistic. She scoffs at Yuval Harari’s claim that “useless eaters” will be pacified with drugs and games. As an activist who’s scraped by, she knows humans are inventive under pressure. https://onwardpod.substack.com/p/who-really-rules-the-world 100% Chance of Nuclear War – Martin Armstrong
“We have staff in Germany, and I was told by my staff that a friend 60 years old was told to report to duty. I had a friend who was at the Viennia Peace Conference, and he called me when it was over and said, ‘Holy crap, this has nothing to do with peace anymore. This is all about preparing for war. Everybody should start getting ready for drafts, to start going that way.’ They want war. They are not backing off.”
Armstrong’s computer “Socrates” is signaling war as early as next month. Armstrong says, “Starting in August, this whole thing is going to be escalating up. Our computer has what we call a ‘Panic Cycle’ with our war cycles for 2026. That is not good. I don’t know what the hell Trump is smoking. . .. My computer has been projecting war, and it is projecting war going into 2026. This is not looking good, and Europe will lose. It is as simple as that.”
The other big event that happened that will change the economic system forever is the House just passed the so-called GENIUS Act (Guiding and Establishing National Innovation for US Stablecoins). The bill is now headed to President Trump to sign into law.
Armstrong contends that US debt is being sold by big holders of Treasuries, and we have to find a new market for our huge Treasury debt or we default. Treasury bonds will supposedly backstop stablecoins that the banks will control. Armstrong says, “This is really a repeat of 1863. In the Civil War, they issued national bank notes. The banks were told to buy the bonds. They could buy bonds to fund the war, and they were allowed to issue currency backed by the bonds. This is the same exact thing. These stablecoins are the same thing as the 1863 National Bank Act.” https://usawatchdog.com/100-chance-of-nuclear-war-martin-armstrong/July 22, 2025 at 6:11 pm #192528John Day
Participant‘What Do All Those PhDs Do?’ – Bessent Calls For ‘Fundamental Reset’ Of Financial Regulations
He suggested that bank regulators should review outdated capital requirements that place “unnecessary burdens on financial institutions” and reduce bank lending. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bessent-calls-fundamental-reset-financial-regulations Neoliberal Economic Orthodoxy Is Now Up For Review
Bessent’s criticism of the Fed’s ability to fulfill its basic mission of providing stability to financial markets, regulating the banking system and conducting monetary policy might suggest that Trump could bypass questions of whether he has the legal authority to fire Powell and ‘do an Andrew Jackson’ by abolishing the central bank altogether. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/neoliberal-economic-orthodoxy-now-reviewGabbard To Release More Obama Russiagate Files, ‘Cannot Fathom’ How Durham, Mueller Missed Evidence Of ‘Years-Long Coup’ https://www.zerohedge.com/political/gabbard-release-more-obama-russiagate-files-cannot-fathom-how-durham-mueller-missed
Celia Farber, As More Russiagate Whistleblowers Emerge, Gabbard Calls For Criminal Referrals: “This Treasonous Conspiracy Was Directed By President Obama Just Weeks Before We Was Due To Leave Office.”
Clapper: “I Constantly Said That We Didn’t Have Any Evidence” Behind The Op Known As “Jan 6.” Was A TRUE Attempt To Subvert The Government. https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/as-more-russiagate-whistleblowers Trump posts AI video of Obama being arrested The US president has endorsed conducting a criminal investigation into the former Democratic leader over the Russiagate hoax https://swentr.site/news/621767-trump-obama-ai-video/
July 22, 2025 at 6:12 pm #192529John Day
ParticipantGabbard Releases Long-Classified Martin Luther King Jr. Assassination Files https://www.zerohedge.com/political/gabbard-releases-long-classified-martin-luther-king-jr-assassination-files
Attorney General Pam Bondi revealed Tuesday morning that the Department of Justice is to meet with Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘madam’ who has expressed a desire to talk about the so called ‘client list’. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/doj-announces-imminent-meeting-ghislaine-maxwell
Western Life Is Only One Way to Live, Thomas Neuburger
Conor Gallagher intro: There are also still small communities not organized around capitalism, such as Ashaninka villages in Peru that practice real direct democracy on a smaller, manageable scale and live in reciprocity with the environment. Long ago this used to be commonplace, but I’d have to disagree with Neuberger’s conclusion that we could have this the minute we want to. The rich that will never surrender their ill-gotten wealth and power and a whole lot of people who want that wealth for themselves. Even countries that try to experiment with new modes new modes of production, distribution, and reproduction are targeted relentlessly and ruthlessly by the capitalist gangsters. https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/07/western-life-is-only-one-way-to-live.html Reports That American Man & His Family Slaughtered By US-Backed Syrian Regime
American diplomat and Trump admin official Richard Grenell has issued the following message on X: “I have just been given horrific news and videos of what is said to be an American citizen from Oklahoma who has been brutally killed in Syria. He is Druse. I have passed it on to a senior State Department official and a Member of Congress to check the facts.” https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/reports-american-man-his-family-slaughtered-us-backed-syrian-regime One minute video of mean, vicious, relentless police gang-rape-brutality, dogs straining to join, on peaceful protesters:
Cops were caught on camera beating anti-ICE protesters on the Ohio–Kentucky state line bridge; then dragging them off in zip-ties like it was open season on dissent. They didn’t de-escalate. They cracked down. And they made sure the cameras saw it. https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/1946681712756261206July 22, 2025 at 6:12 pm #192530John Day
ParticipantEnforcement machine, bypassing “technicalities”: NYPD Bypassed Facial Recognition Ban to ID Pro-Palestinian Student Protester
Barred from using Clearview AI, NYC police relied on a marshal in the fire department to run a search that turned up photos of the student at his high school graduation. https://www.thecity.nyc/2025/07/18/nypd-fdny-clearview-ai-ban-columbia-palestinian-protest/Mossad Chief Pushes For US Assistance In Removing Gazans To Outside Countries https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/mossad-chief-pushes-us-assistance-removing-gazans-outside-countries
Israel kills 55 including 36 starving Palestinians near aid distribution center in southern Gaza
Dozens injured as Israeli forces open fire on aid-seeking Palestinians in Rafah https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-kills-55-including-36-starving-palestinians-near-aid-distribution-center-in-southern-gaza-/3635430 Huckabee threatens to declare Israel does not welcome Christians, as visa row blows open
US envoy pens scathing letter to interior minister, accusing Israel of blocking Christian groups from entering Israel and warning of reciprocal steps against Israeli visa seekers https://www.timesofisrael.com/huckabee-threatens-to-declare-israel-not-welcoming-christians-as-visa-row-blows-open/ Current “Members of Knesset”: Survivors testify: MKs participated in sadistic sexual ‘rituals’ involving minors
‘Doctors, educators, police officers, and past and present members of the Knesset were involved in these abuses,’ survivor says. https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-856407July 22, 2025 at 6:14 pm #192531John Day
Participant British surgeon Dr. Nick Maynard says Israeli soldiers in Gaza are turning the targeting of Palestinian children into a “HUMAN-HUNTING GAME.” “These children are being targeted almost as if it’s a game… One day they’re all shot in the head, the next day in the neck, and another day in the testicles… There is a clear and deliberate pattern to the injuries.” https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1946582207658664184
Washington Times: Suggestion Jeffrey Epstein Was Mossad is an Anti-Semitic ‘Blood Libel’ https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64988
Germany’s Merz says what’s happening in Gaza is ‘unacceptable’
Friedrich Merz renews his call for ceasefire, urges Israeli government to allow more humanitarian aid for Palestinian civilians https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/germany-s-merz-says-what-s-happening-in-gaza-is-unacceptable-/3634754 Decrying ‘dramatic humanitarian situation’ in enclave, pope reiterates call for immediate ceasefire in Gaza
Pontiff, Israeli Premier Benjamin Netanyahu speak in wake of Thursday attack by Israeli forces on Catholic church in Gaza that killed at least 3, injured several others https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/decrying-dramatic-humanitarian-situation-in-enclave-pope-reiterates-call-for-immediate-ceasefire-in-gaza/3635015 Egypt rejects US quid pro quo over Gaza and Ethiopia dam
Egyptian officials have rejected a US offer to intervene in the Nile dam dispute in return for aiding Israel’s plan to build a concentration camp in Gaza’s south. https://www.newarab.com/news/egypt-rejects-us-quid-pro-quo-over-gaza-and-ethiopia-damJuly 22, 2025 at 6:16 pm #192533John Day
Participant Israel levelling thousands of Gaza civilian buildings in controlled demolitions
Israel has demolished thousands of buildings across Gaza since it withdrew from a ceasefire with Hamas in March, with entire towns and suburbs – once home to tens of thousands of people – levelled in the past few weeks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-33fccfbe-abcc-4af1-bdd2-632b2787cf59 8 second video loop: Gaza is undergoing one of the worst famines in the world and what do Israeli citizens do?
They are attacking a destroying what little aid caravans go to Gaza.
They want babies to starve and children to die. They say it all the time. https://x.com/AdameMedia/status/1946678626994229278 ‘We dream of bread’: Gaza’s streets echo with hunger as bodies collapse from starvation
With flour gone, markets empty, hope fading, Gazan surviving on desperation alone as starvation turns from threat to reality https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/we-dream-of-bread-gaza-s-streets-echo-with-hunger-as-bodies-collapse-from-starvation/3636154 “Israel is in non-stop war crime status, in genocidal status, without shame, without remorse, without truth… This is a murderous gang in government. They are zealots. They are not going to stop.” —Prof. Jeffrey Sachs https://x.com/Partisan_12/status/1946842538905604106
July 22, 2025 at 6:21 pm #192536John Day
ParticipantIt’s Clear – Israel Now Has a Plan for the Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinians From Gaza
Someone conceived it, there were discussions of pros and cons, alternatives were suggested, and all done in air-conditioned conference rooms. For the first time since the war of revenge in Gaza began, it’s clear that Israel has a plan – and it’s a far-reaching one. https://archive.is/20250720142506/https://www. haaretz.com/opinion/2025-07-20/ty-article/.premium/its-clear-israel-now-has-a-plan-for-the-ethnic-cleansing-of-palestinians-from-gaza/00000198-2456-d55c-a1be-7efe76860000#selection-307.0-311.264Remove the gap in the link
July 22, 2025 at 6:22 pm #192537John Day
ParticipantIt is over. “Ukraine” has lost. It is just playing out. Russia has reached war-industry steady-state, while destroying Ukrainian recruitment-centers & factories. Simplicius, Grave Nation: Ukrainian Cemetery Mega-Project Reveals Dimming Military Hopes https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/grave-nation-ukrainian-cemetery-mega
‘No Miracles’: Russia Downplays 3rd Round Of Ukraine Talks Set For Wednesday https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/no-miracles-russia-downplays-3rd-round-ukraine-talks-set-wednesday
“Anger” at Putin is just a cover: the West announced in advance the imminent replacement of Zelensky with Zaluzhny
Signals are coming from the West that Volodymyr Zelensky, who imagined himself to be beyond the control of Western curators, has signed his own death warrant. Now this is no longer a rumor, but the very near future...
..If Zelensky refuses to leave his post, which is most likely, then he will be forced to do so, as “one of the American officials involved” told Hersh. https://en.topcor.ru/62200-zlost-na-putina-lish-prikrytie-na-zapade-zaranee-anonsirovali-skoruju-zamenu-zelenskogo-na-zaluzhnogo.html Simplicius, Out of Options, West Again Floats Flushing Zelensky?
B at MoA covered this in full, so I don’t need to rehash every detail. But suffice it to say that it accords with Trump’s alleged recent opinion that Zelensky is the ‘main obstacle to peace’, despite new misgivings about Putin. B does point out that Hersh reportedly makes a perplexingly off-target claim about Russian losses, as follows:
“I have been provided with new Russian casualty numbers, from carefully evaluated US and British intelligence estimates, that show that Russia has suffered two million casualties—nearly double the current public numbers—since Putin started the war in early 2022.”
If the same sources who’ve furnished Hersh with such outlandish casualty figures are the ones who’ve relayed the latest Zelensky intel, then it certainly casts doubt on the rest of their info.
In fact, another round of new body exchanges has shown casualty disparities continuing in the stratospheric range, as Russia gave back 1,000 new bodies to Ukraine, and received 19 in return. https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/out-of-options-west-again-floatsGerman Chancellor Merz: “Long-Range Missiles for Deep Strikes into Russia Coming Within Weeks’ https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/german-chancellor-merz-long-range-missiles-for-deep-strikes-into-russia-coming-within-weeks
July 22, 2025 at 6:24 pm #192539John Day
ParticipantUS arms deliveries to Ukraine could be delayed for several years https://vtforeignpolicy.com/2025/07/us-arms-deliveries-to-ukraine-could-be-delayed-for-several-years-media/
Ex-Pentagon official: US could run out of missiles in eight days
Retired US Army Colonel and former Trump advisor, Douglas Macgregor urged the US to “stop sending weapons abroad” as he warned of America’s exhausting stockpile of offensive and defensive missiles, Sputnik reports. “Translation, we can fight an 8-day war, and then we would have to go nuclear.” https://en.mehrnews.com/news/234445/US-could-run-out-of-missiles-in-eight-days Did Fauci Get Pardoned by Autopen? Senator Rand Paul Refers for Criminal Prosecution
Was it possible that Fauci approached Biden in his neurologically compromised state and requested an unprecedented 10 year period of clemency for crimes he committed? Was it signed by Jeff Zients a top aide to President Biden? We may find out if the Justice Department assigns a special prosecutor and the case moves forward on two alleged crimes: 1) fraud on multiple levels, 2) mass negligent homicide. https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/did-fauci-get-pardoned-by-autopen Booker Launches Bill That Gives Citizens Right to Sue Pesticide Makers as House Pushes Measure to Protect Big Chemical
Federal lawmakers are being asked to consider two dueling pieces of legislation: one that protects the right of Americans to sue a pesticide maker if exposure to the company’s product harms their health, and one that protects chemical companies from those very types of lawsuits. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cory-booker-bill-americans-right-sue-pesticide-makers-big-chemical/July 22, 2025 at 6:25 pm #192541John Day
Participant Their Water Taps Ran Dry When Meta Built Next Door
In the race to develop artificial intelligence, tech giants are building data centers that guzzle up water. That has led to problems for people who live nearby. https://archive.is/20250717042139/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/14/technology/meta-data-center-water.html#selection-403.0-407.160 Brighter Nights and Darker Days Increase Risk of Death by Up to 46%
A decade-long study of 88,000 people and 13 million hours of light data reveals that circadian disruption from artificial light may be silently shortening lifespans. https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/brighter-nights-and-darker-days-increaseMeryl Nass MD, on what would be ok without illegal chemical dumping: Sewer sludge was deodorized and magically turned into fertilizer though full of toxic chemicals. Section 507 wants to magically disappear the EPA draft guidance on sludge. WHY must it be killed?
What the chemical and solid waste industries don’t want anyone to know. Here is the draft EPA report. https://merylnass.substack.com/p/sewer-sludge-was-deodorized-and-magically ‘An Encouraging Sign’: 60% of Pregnant Women and Young Mothers May Delay or Refuse Routine Vaccines for Kids
The results of two nationwide surveys suggest a growing number of new and expectant mothers are questioning the safety, efficacy and necessity of vaccines for their kids. The results track with a recent poll, conducted by Zogby Strategies and funded by Children’s Health Defense, showing 60% of parents of young children believe it’s time to review the childhood vaccine schedule. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/60-percent-pregnant-women-young-mothers-may-delay-or-refuse-routine-vaccines-kids/July 22, 2025 at 6:26 pm #192542John Day
ParticipantFDA Approved Moderna COVID Shot For Kids Behind Kennedy’s Back – Two HHS Aides Fired https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fda-approved-moderna-covid-shot-ffor-kids-behind-kennedys-back-two-hhs-aides-fired
NEW STUDY: Long-Vaccine Patients Have 7X Higher Spike Burden Than Long-COVID Patients
100-patient study finds vaccine-injured individuals had 7x higher spike antibody levels than unvaccinated individuals with confirmed infection and Long COVID symptoms. https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/new-study-long-vaccine-patients-haveTibetans have no say: China begins construction of world’s largest hydropower station in Tibet. Premier Li Qiang inaugurates project in Nyingchi, southwestern China’s Xizang Autonomous Region https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/china-begins-construction-of-world-s-largest-hydropower-station-in-tibet-/3636049
Sub-Saharan Africa Can’t Afford to Eat on a Carbon Diet. Green fertilizers are an empty promise to farmers in sub-Saharan Africa
Today, the production of most fertilizers begins with a process known as steam methane reforming (SMR). SMR uses the methane (CH4) in natural gas to make “grey” hydrogen which gets reacted with atmospheric nitrogen to make grey ammonia (NH3). The entire process of synthesizing grey ammonia from natural gas is called the Haber-Bosch process.
Each year, emissions from the Haber-Bosch process account for about 1.8% of global carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions on account of its high energy requirements and SMR’s generation of high-purity CO2 as a chemical byproduct. In contrast, “green” hydrogen—produced by splitting water (H2O) with renewable electricity—directly emits no CO2 but regularly costs over twice as much as grey. https://www.breakthroughjournal.org/p/sub-saharan-africa-cant-afford-toGenerating additional charges for what the eye can’t even see: Avoid Hertz’s AI-Powered Rental Car Scanners https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/avoid-hertzs-ai-powered-rental-car-scanner
July 22, 2025 at 6:47 pm #192543Michael Reid
ParticipantJuly 22, 2025 at 7:42 pm #192544zerosum
ParticipantAI data centers require a cheap way of getting rid of heat if it doesn’t want to burnt to death.
July 22, 2025 at 9:27 pm #192545D Benton Smith
ParticipantArresting Obama is a pretty good distraction (especially considering how short notice this all was), and it’s also a pretty good start on putting LOTS of big shots in jail, but it is ALSO totally irrelevant to the fact that our entire government (Trump and pals included) is run by monsters that make Obama look like an Eagle Scout.
But, hey, if they wanna but Obama in the slamma they won’t get any objections from me.
July 22, 2025 at 9:57 pm #192546aspnaz
ParticipantTalk of the earth running out of energy is pure bullshit. Sure, the energy mix has changed, especially in the USA that has a legacy oil industry which is fully invested in refining heavy oil, an industry that cannot refine the vast reserves of US oil that can only be extracted by fracking, and the march of electrification.
There is masses of oil out there, lots of it, such as the US fracking oil is very good quality but expensive to extract; others are very cheap to extract but suffer the USA’s sactions due to the USA’s “if we can’t profit from it then you can’t either” fake free market.
Sure, oil use peaked a few years ago, but oil use does not limit available oil, there are hundreds if not thousands of years of available oil, the issue is that most countries are pushing for electrical energy expansion, mostly due to the march of electronics and the premier technology; now the AI “dot-com” boom. And as for the products created from oil – plastics, fertilisers, …. endless items etc – are still being manufactured at a massive rate.
The fact that the USA’s oil industry is out of date and dying is not due to limited earth resources, it is due to US oil companies refusing to invest in new infrastructure, same as with other inductries in the USA, so they focus on extracting existing value; in the USA this means importing heavy oil and refining it, then exporting the products of that process for a profit.
Peak oil is politics and consumer driven, not resources driven.
July 22, 2025 at 10:20 pm #192547aspnaz
Participantzerosum said
AI data centers require a cheap way of getting rid of heat if it doesn’t want to burnt to death.
Nuclear power already solved this problem, but in the USA corporations come first, so they will use fresh water for cooling and restrict the water available for the life of the people. Any sane government would outlaw the use of so much fresh water for AI datacenter cooling, a massive waste of resources. Let them build on the coastline where the available heat sink will not impact the current citizens. The USA has a ton of unoccupied coastline and the employees do not need to work at the data center, so what’s the problem? Cost. Cost is the problem. Sea cooling is not the cheap option, so the people are shat on and the corps get the cheap break. Citizens United should rename themselves as billionaires united.
July 23, 2025 at 12:25 am #192548Celticbiker
ParticipantWe’re all Palestinians now, in this jewbanker panopticon. Some people get it. Most don’t. They will, eventually, when it’s too late.
July 23, 2025 at 1:54 am #192549Michael Reid
ParticipantJuly 23, 2025 at 2:22 am #192550zerosum
ParticipantReady or not. What will be will be.
July 23, 2025 at 3:13 am #192551WES
ParticipantLying AI Lies:
I will lie sweet lies to you today.
I will lie more sweet lies to you tonight.
If you love me tomorrow, I will lie all day
I will lie about the lies I told you last night. -
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