Debt Rattle June 12 2025
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June 12, 2025 at 10:08 am #189717
Topcat
Participant• Gavin Newsom Humiliated Himself, and It Was Awesome
Gruesom Newscum is another haircut in search of a brain.
He is the quintessential Hollow Man
The eyes are not here
There are no eyes here
In this valley of dying stars
In this hollow valley
This broken jaw of our lost kingdomsIn this last of meeting places
We grope together
And avoid speech
Gathered on this beach of the tumid riverSightless, unless
The eyes reappear
As the perpetual star
Multifoliate rose
Of death’s twilight kingdom
The hope only
Of empty men.June 12, 2025 at 10:26 am #189718Topcat
Participant• Medinsky Slams NATO’s Rutte, Suggests History Book to Clarify Ukraine’s Past
Rutte is another penis-breath Hollow Man
The Euro-trash variety
A douche-bag like Rutte needs to educate himself, he wears his retardation on his sleeve like a badge of honor.
He probably thinks the Vikings were Muslims
“he first capital of the Russian state was Kiev, a city that today is in Ukraine.
This city was established as the Russian capital about 1200 years ago.
In this city, the Russian people adopted Orthodox Christianity as their national religion.
June 12, 2025 at 10:36 am #189719Topcat
ParticipantHealth and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. caused hysteria at Pharma-funded leftist media outlets and among Democrat politicians this week by canning all 17 Biden-appointed members of the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices (ACIP).
God, Kennedy is actually taking some scalps!
Too bad Bondi is just letting Patel and Bongino diddle her “G Spot”
June 12, 2025 at 10:48 am #189720Topcat
Participant• Germany Hemorrhaging Industrial Jobs
Germany is a sloppy back alley hand job.
Intermittent, unreliable solar and wind for energy, no nuclear, no cheap gas or diesel.
It has No Future
Energy is STILL the Master Resource
And without cheap energy, nothing can be manufactured at competitive retail prices, you know, like cars.
Germany Then & Now
Just as well for humanity to have Teutonic Eunuchs
June 12, 2025 at 10:52 am #189721WES
ParticipantCalvin and Susie:
The thing about Calvin is he is doing all these nasty things to Susie because he doesn’t realize that he is in love with Susie!
Calvin and Susie really need to get married!
June 12, 2025 at 11:01 am #189722Topcat
ParticipantDr Aseem Malhotra
Telling it like it is about The Cult of Statins
What a racket, what a propaganda shakedown of the Sheeple.
“In 2025, an estimated over 90 million Americans are likely to be taking statins…”Cha-Ching!
“In the US, annual spending on statins is around $10 billion. Globally, the statins market is estimated to be over $20 billion annually and is expected to grow”
Selling Statins has a lot in common with selling toilet paper
June 12, 2025 at 11:18 am #189723Topcat
ParticipantLove the One You’re With
June 12, 2025 at 11:25 am #189724tboc
Participantreading through our host’s headlines this morning i was drawn to the 1981 statement by William Casey
thought then turned to Graeme Edge and the Moody BluesLate Lament
Breathe deep the gathering gloom
Watch lights fade from every room
Bedsitter people look back and lament
Another day’s useless energy spent
Impassioned lovers wrestle as one;
Lonely man cries for love and has none;
New mother picks up and suckles her son;
Senior citizens wish they were youngCold-hearted orb that rules the night
Removes the colours from our sight
Red is grey is yellow white
But we decide which is right
And which is an illusionJune 12, 2025 at 11:33 am #189725WES
ParticipantIran:
Why is it so necessary for Iran to negotiate the loss of it’s sovereignty, right now?
Who’s agendas requires a nuclear treaty be rammed down Iran’s throats, right now?
Why the sudden hurry now?There once was an agreement between Iran and the US but the US (Trump) cancelled it!
Why would Iran agree to a new agreement knowing it could be cancelled by the US at any moment?Warmongers need war to stay in power:
Is it really the bankers who need a war to stay in power?
Thus Europeans are being constantly told by NATO (who’s business is war) that144 million Russians are suddenly going/about to invade and occupy all of Europe!
Per the Washington Post (mouth piece for you know who!) the US is suddenly about be at war with Iran ight now because the US is threatening Iran because the Iranians won’t accept unreasonable US negotiation demands to give up their sovereignty!We need moar war, right now!
Not tomorrow, but today!
War tomorrow, would be too late!LA riots:
Destabilize the US to create conditions for moar war!
Democrats/Uniparty aren’t the least bit worried about Democratic party committing future election suicide!
Their job is creating moar wars!June 12, 2025 at 11:52 am #189726those darned kids
Participantcovid emergency still in effect.
prep act still in effect.
all liability protections still in effect.
robert malone is pure darpa/deep state.
y’all are still fooled.
June 12, 2025 at 12:00 pm #189727Dr. D
ParticipantGood opener to the day.
That root meme Sargon took on. He’s like “You don’t understand. It’s not the COUNTRY. They may or may not want to be deported to Mexico, or add California to Mexico. MEXICO IS THE PEOPLE. The “People” are in L.A. and all over America or the world. Wherever they go, that’s Mexico. Or put another way: I’m here, so It’s MINE now. Stop me.
This is a very good point. We’re not talking about “Nations”, like Westphalia Queensbury rules. We’re talking about cultures and peoples and identities, which are all fuzzy and internal but cause us to respond with “These are MY Nikes now” or “That store should be respected and not looted, because it is OUR store, owned by OUR people, city, nation, culture.”
Trump-Musk over already. Wot a surprise. I accept cash and checks for being right, Rich.
Apparently it’s so safe and nothing is happening that L.A. issued a curfew for no reason. Since everyone is a model citizen there. Of Mexico. The Mexican president said so. She said, you need to treat our citizens right! What they’re doing is perfectly fine and has my and Mexico’s full approval, you are not allowed to arrest them. When they rebel and secede as Texas did, well, you just have to allow it, you big meanies.
Still no one talking the law on Nat. Guard, but they were surrounding and trying to burn down the Federal Building with everyone inside made charred, crispy chunks, (again!) and so Trump can call up the FEDERAL level to protect FEDERAL buildings. I think that’s a lot of what’s going on, please let me know. And as an extension, he’s saying FEDERAL employees, trying to do their jobs are in grave danger and need FEDERAL backup. That would also make sense. Normally that does not go in for crime, being a State’s issue, but obviously border immigration is Federal purview. Calling the army to put down everyday street protests is a different thing. That’s not what he’s doing (apparently), but they won’t report bc they want to SAY that’s what he’s doing.
“not only facts are only facts if we say so; most of all, only one interpretation is allowed” (Yesterday)
This goes with UK passing “law” (they just make it up) that anyone who has any Britishness at all, any Pride, any patriotism, is a terrorist. That includes the Raj who only just arrived, the Sikhs, if they like England, they are terrorists for White Nationalism. No bunting for you! That’s because Islam, other nations have a culture, but White people and the British don’t, they have no culture at all, which is why (White) Britons are totally defending this thing that doesn’t exist. Obviously. Meanwhile, their own numbers show overwhelming inclination of Islam to violence (doesn’t have to be the religion, but these are their own UK police numbers and premises) but trying to establish Sharia Law instead of English law is NOT a problem, nationalism, or if you bomb people for it, terrorism.
Okay then! That’s all cleared up. Carry on! “facts are only facts if we say so; only one interpretation is allowed”
“• LA More Than Insurrection, It’s Bolshevik Revolution – Larry Klayman (USAW)
What the Docktor says all along, but he could be wrong. It’s what I would do if I were them, tho.
“• The PR War Over the Riots (Pinsker)
Trump up FORTY POINTS on the riots. WITH IMMIGRANTS. That is, the legal immigrant minority here in the U.S. +40.
Now you see why – miserable and demented as it is – they couldn’t just knock heads in 2020. That would feelz great and LOSE. Nor, as people say now, June 2025, can you just suspend all law and “Use the same unjust illegal tactics of the Left against them.” Again, that’s the temptation the Social Engineers set up, you have to not take it. This is their Pushme-Pullu plan, to get so far Left, then install a Hitler on the Right for America. …Or any other s—t that would work to ruin the country, don’t care. Any degredation and mass murder is a good one to these guys.
BTW, this article is clueless. They haven’t the faintest idea what they’re doing wrong with men, and can’t even stop doing the thing they KNOW they’re doing, which is hating them with blind fury and calling them a cancer.
I’m not going to find the article (Lotus Eaters? December?) but the key here is the message for the Left is “We give away Stuff.” You Take Stuff. We steal your stuff to give other people stuff. We “reallocate” stuff. That’s totally not Socialism at all!! So if Men are mad, it’s because we’re giving them the WRONG stuff, not ENOUGH of it, not the right kind, etc. …It never OCCURS to them that men fundamentally don’t want stuff. It’s unmanly. Why? Because it’s pure charity, getting something for nothing, with no valor, no autonomy and no work. It’s being a leech, a sycophant, which is of course exactly what they want and often say. But that’s why NO message will work. Men will want a Vision. A quest, a goal, to build. To Make, not Take. And the Vision for the present Right is easy: “I dunno what you monkeys want. That’s your business. We just want to get out of your way, out of your life so you can pick it for yourself.” The Left wants to harangue and meddle and be IN your business always, telling you what to do. And that’s fundamentally anti-male. Lesson over.
“• Germany Hemorrhaging Industrial Jobs (RT)
Apparently their banking collapse has exceeded ‘08. Still crickets.
Iran: It’s gotten so complicated, I forget. Europe was using Iran as collateral, the U.S. obviously wants to stop that. Or Europe will limp on starting wars that kill millions all day. However, we also need to forestall Israel being stupid since if the war ends, Nutsy goes to jail and he’d much rather kill all life on earth instead. We still haven’t cleared the deck here on the internal rebellion, certainly can’t add all combined force of Israel’s minions yet.
Crazy 3-way Kunstler, Cullom, Loungo, with too much idiotic shouting, but Cullom was on “If you don’t take scalps, I say we’ve all been punk’d” and Luongo apoplectic since backstabbing Trump is just helping Davos. I mean, we can always collapse later, can you at least TRY to transition the country a little and not go direct Mad Max? Both valid points. But Cullom’s overall message here was this: What you’re proposing is TOO DAMN COMPLICATED. Both to understand, like, are you even right or grasping at shadows. Luongo was trying to answer the question WHY are public leaders acting this way. Their acts are a fact, we try to explain them. It’s because they are TRYING to do these complicated things, their goals.
Part two of Too complicated is like Kunster’s: this is BS. “The system goes emergent”, that is, complex systems stop being predictable and steerable and take on a life of their own. We are going to go from high complexity to low complexity in one cliff, bang. Errrr. Maybe? The key of “Emergent complex systems” is that they are NOT predictable. BY DEFINITION. And a chemist (two chemists) should know that. Yes, point very well taken.
However, you asked the question, WHY, under THIS system, which is still orderly and NOT emergent, are people behaving in a way that seems to be trying to convert it from debt-banking to Production-tariffs. If we collapse we collapse, we won’t miss it. At the moment we are discussing what’s happening in Congress, etc as they TRY to change it, still under control as the last 60 years.
Too complicated. Two Levels. Maybe you can convert a steam boiler while it’s actively operating, maybe not, but it’s awfully hard. What do you have to lose? You half build it before it fails? Half built is better than none.
June 12, 2025 at 12:11 pm #189728those darned kids
Participant“These are MY Nikes now” or “That store should be respected and not looted, because it is OUR store, owned by OUR people, city, nation, culture.”
“This is MY OIL now” or “That oil field should be respected and not looted, because it is OUR oil, owned by OUR oligarchs, investors, hedgefunds, ‘culture’.”
June 12, 2025 at 12:12 pm #189729those darned kids
Participant“I accept cash and checks for being right,”
wooohoooo!!!!!!!
i sure hope you make payments for being wrong!¡!¡!
June 12, 2025 at 1:05 pm #189730D Benton Smith
Participant@MyParentsSaidKnow [from your last post of yesterday]
We’ve made LLMs absolutely useless for tyranny”
What you and Spartacus say of AI LLM’s is true, and to top it off the AI has no consciousness or self to defend or be offended by one’s anti-tyrannic effrontery , although they can be programmed to SIMULATE such states of being (and a few other states of being not mentioned, such as happiness , fear and greed). In short, they can be constructed to be both the Library of All Recordable Human Knowledge AND the simulated Librarian which helps you search, hands up the requested material, check one’s math and logic, and remind you to be respectful of the silence so that other searchers are not disturbed by your noisy perusal of the stacks.
June 12, 2025 at 1:14 pm #189731zerosum
ParticipantSecrets & Lies
Where exacttly is the US interest in this?• US On High Alert In Anticipation Of Potential Israeli Strike On Iran (ZH)
directed all embassies within Iranian strike range reduce the footprint, high alert, a potential Israeli strike on Iran, an Iranian retaliation,
————Did you hear?
A legal civil war – mass protests, mob violence, and nationalized vigilantism, an element of unpredictability.
A PR war – inciting violence, and fomenting revolution
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This is a plan. This is a playbook.
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technical blunders, shameless begging, and a string of outright lies, dodging accountability
———–June 12, 2025 at 1:56 pm #189732D Benton Smith
ParticipantAfter a short breather, to test the wind, gold continues its inexorable climb to infinity and beyond.
June 12, 2025 at 2:04 pm #189733D Benton Smith
ParticipantI’ve got lots of cash and checks headed my way through the Postal System in remuneration for being right all the time. I can say that with confidence because they’ve all repeatedly assured me that, “The check is in the mail.”
June 12, 2025 at 2:08 pm #189734D Benton Smith
ParticipantThe same people have also said that I’m gonna pay big time for being wrong, but can’t say that with much confidence because it hasn’t happened yet.
June 12, 2025 at 2:20 pm #189735Dora
ParticipantMeryl Nass.
The new slate of ACIP members
and what I know about 5 of them
https://merylnass.substack.com/p/the-new-slate-of-acip-membersJune 12, 2025 at 2:25 pm #189736those darned kids
ParticipantQ: why are there more czechs than slovaks?
A: the czech is in the male.
June 12, 2025 at 2:27 pm #189737those darned kids
Participantpink floyd’s only rock song:
June 12, 2025 at 2:29 pm #189738those darned kids
Participantoh, yeah:
palantir.
June 12, 2025 at 2:57 pm #189739my parents said know
ParticipantDBS- my quote was Spartacus speaking, not me. I am pretty clueless when it comes to what he writes, now. I get an uneasy feeling that he [thinks he] is going to ascend into AI heaven at some point.
Are LLMs useless for tyranny, now?One of their uses seems to be sucking brilliant minds into time sinks.
On a different note:
How the left approaches the recruitment of “kickass dudes” can be seen in this video. Check it out at the one minute mark. [“The lucrative business behind the LA riots” by “Brush Junkie”.]June 12, 2025 at 4:17 pm #189740D Benton Smith
Participant@MyParentsSaidKnow
How the left approaches the recruitment of “kickass dudes” can be seen in this video. Check it out at the one minute mark. [“The lucrative business behind the LA riots” by “Brush Junkie”.]
What you posted is good enough to be posted again. The thing about this “rent-a-riot” situation in the USA and around the world that impresses me the most are the implications of what the situation blatantly proves. There are people who recruit and pay rioters, and you just have to wonder two things about such people who would do such a thing and exactly how they pull off the act of doing it, in public, for all to see, and with complete impunity for doing so.
Obviously there is something in it for them, and it’s obvious what that something is. The “something” that they get from it, (of course!) is possession of the Power, Money, and Authority that enables them to do it. In other words, they get to be the government. As for where they get all that money to buy rioters (and Judges) with, well that’s pretty simple too. They’re the government, silly, they get the money from YOU.
June 12, 2025 at 4:28 pm #189741those darned kids
Participant“They’re the government, silly, they get the money from YOU.”
again, this is not correct. government money is purchased from private corporations for a fee.
your taxes function to destroy excess money in the system.
June 12, 2025 at 4:39 pm #189743D Benton Smith
ParticipantAI is no different than any other “mind” that one might consult (including the damply organic one parked between our ears). It remains (as it simply must) the sole responsibility of the operator to distinguish the difference between their own conscious awareness and the SIMULATION of consciousness and awareness that can be programmed into the AI machine. This act of conscious choice cannot be farmed out or handed off to a machine (no matter how well that machine can simulate consciousness or self-awareness). because the AI version is fake and there is NO ONE HOME to experience either the rewards or the consequences of its SIMULATED thoughts and advices.
June 12, 2025 at 4:59 pm #189744D Benton Smith
ParticipantIf government money is purchased from private corporations for a fee then the so-called private corporations are consequently and automatically not private. They work for the government, printing money for a fee, and by that action are not “private” at all. They’re just another department. As for who it is that the “government” works for is a fascinating investigation, and harder to accomplish than it might look at first, but when investigated it reveals that the primary function of “governance” will continue to hold true all the way to the “top” and that primary function will be the use of other people’s production to make them do what the governing entity tells them to do, by means of wages, bribery, blackmail, deceit, exile, force and violence.
June 12, 2025 at 5:21 pm #189745zerosum
Participanthttps://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/12/mapping-us-troops-and-military-bases-in-the-middle-east
Mapping US troops and military bases in the Middle East
The United States has maintained a military presence in the Middle East for decades, currently stationing between 40,000 and 50,000 troops across at least 19 sites.Published On 12 Jun 2025
The United States announced on Wednesday that it is preparing a partial evacuation of its embassy in Iraq and has authorised “the voluntary departure” of dependants of American personnel from locations across the Middle East, including Bahrain, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates, as regional security concerns rise.
On Wednesday evening, US President Donald Trump explained that the decision to relocate staff was made because the region “could be a dangerous place”.
June 12, 2025 at 5:28 pm #189746zerosum
Participanthttps://tass.com/world/1972043
US embassy in Iraq prepares to send 1,000 staff home — media
The outlet’s sources said the move will affect “employees of companies that have signed contracts with the embassy,” though the specific firms were not disclosed
CAIRO, June 11. /TASS/. The US embassy in Baghdad is preparing to return 1,000 employees back to the United States as part of a cost-cutting program, the Al Hadath TV channel reported.The outlet’s sources said the move will affect “employees of companies that have signed contracts with the embassy,” though the specific firms were not disclosed. They also emphasized that the decision “is not related to the current situation in the Middle East.”
A source in the Iraqi Foreign Ministry noted that the embassy is operating “as usual” and that authorities have not received any notice of a large-scale staff repatriation.
The US embassy has not yet officially commented on the reports.
June 12, 2025 at 5:29 pm #189747tboc
Participant“• LA More Than Insurrection, It’s Bolshevik Revolution – Larry Klayman (USAW) ”
i’m sure the man believes this statement of his with his whole being. for those who came of age in the United States during the cold war quick, easy answers provided the cover for the meticulous social engineering that was under way.
“There are people who recruit and pay rioters, and you just have to wonder two things about such people who would do such a thing and exactly how they pull off the act of doing it, in public, for all to see, and with complete impunity for doing so.”
the answer is there is an implied promise to share power
“As for where they get all that money to buy rioters (and Judges) with, well that’s pretty simple too. They’re the government, silly, they get the money from YOU.”
YOU are conditioned to equate wealth with money and in the belief that power will be shared is the assumption wealth will be shared
it is the man who visits strip clubs and frequents prostitutes who doesn’t want HIS daughter sullied
it is Jeffrey Sachs saying he was naive. Flatter one’s ego and promise a taste of power and the hearts and minds of most will follow
June 12, 2025 at 5:39 pm #189750D Benton Smith
ParticipantGovernance can be made to appear desirable or even necessary by preventing voluntary cooperation (which is the natural order of life) from taking place. Interference with that natural impulse to cooperate with others voluntarily thus becomes the primary activity of government and history is replete with examples of governments doing just that and only that, and bankrolling the operation with the valuable productive works of others (sometimes voluntarily, but usually otherwise.)
June 12, 2025 at 6:02 pm #189751charles
ParticipantResist genocide
https://t.me/Anlystintel/24770June 12, 2025 at 6:05 pm #189752charles
ParticipantCoordination against Iran
https://t.me/Anlystintel/24775June 12, 2025 at 6:59 pm #189753John Day
ParticipantMalone and Kulldorf are good choices for the vaccine review board, both having taken principled stands and lots of flak already.
They have to look openly for risks that exceed benefits and let the facts speak.June 12, 2025 at 7:11 pm #189754my parents said know
ParticipantI was thinking of Miles O’Brien of Star Trek singing his pretty tune, and how sad it is that European cultures are being erased. The song, I discovered, was called “The Minstrel Boy”. I wanted to find a good rendition of it, and this is one I really liked.
June 12, 2025 at 7:13 pm #189755my parents said know
ParticipantI have always been a bit leery of Malone, but good on him that he has found where (I think) he really wanted to be.
June 12, 2025 at 8:06 pm #189756tboc
Participantoh and the bullshit that 47 has decided to attack Iran. 47 has at best acquiesced, more to the point he has been told to sit down and bluster. The decision to attack Iran was made in 1953. The when is now and not one of the last four US administrations has played any role in the planning or timing.
and larry johnson opining on how the USAF will attack Iran is pure CIA pixel dust
i understand how difficult a task it is to ask to locate Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar and The United Arab Emirates on a map. if you are capable of accomplishing that task look across the Persian Gulf and ask how those who cannot defend against or defeat Ansar Allah are going to defend against Iran. Did you notice one side of the Gulf is flat and the other side is mountainous? No, of course not.
Do you understand asymmetry?
Since it is geography day locate the position of Tehran and the geographical relationship to the Persian Gulf. Since you now know where Tehran is you should be able to find the Caspian Sea. Remember when missles launched from the Caspian hit targets in Syria? Do you really believe the US, Israel and their head chopper in Syria are capable of defending your oil supply? Who you gonna call? Oman? get outta town. The US navy going to sail across the Gulf of Oman and through the Strait of Hormuz and defend the oil exporting states?
When Iran says they will attack US bases where do you think that might be? Iraq or Syria? The eastern shore ot the Persian Gulf? Evacuate an embassy in Bahgdad? To what end?
Israel has sacrificed more than 11,000 plus children to Mammon do you think that will be sufficient for victory?
Murdered Qasem, murdered Hassan, defeat will come like a thief in the night.My heart tells me there is one thing the Shia understand better than any others. Losing the battle and winning the war. Once the eastern shore of the Arabian Gulf is aflame you will not be debating who is bankrolling the riots in LA.
June 12, 2025 at 8:47 pm #189757John Day
ParticipantNote that Bernie Sanders is sponsoring this, after having taken a LOT of pharma contributions, and grilling Kennedy in the HHS hearings.
Bernie Just Flipped Sides. Bernie knows which way the wind is blowing.Senators To Propose Ban On Big Pharma Ads As TV Networks Stand To Get Wrecked
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/senators-propose-ban-big-pharma-adsJune 12, 2025 at 9:03 pm #189758John Day
ParticipantDreamliner to dreamland…
Celia Farber: First Ever Boeing Dreamliner 787 Crash Kills 242 Passengers on Air India Flight From Ahmedebad Bound For London: Appears To Be Dual Engine Failure Which Is Almost Impossible Statistically;
Many Pilots Observe That Flaps Were Not Raised, Preventing Climb. Murdered Boeing Whistleblowers Warned Over and Over That A Dreamliner Would Crash. NOW Will Boeing Be Prosecuted?
https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/first-ever-boeing-dreamliner-787ZH: Chilling Footage Shows Air India 787-8 Dreamliner Take Off, Crash Into Student Hostel https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/air-india-boeing-787-8-dreamliner-bound-uk-crashes
June 12, 2025 at 9:06 pm #189759John Day
ParticipantWhite House Fears Iranian Response To An Attack Could Overwhelm Israel’s Air Defenses
“fears”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-fears-iranian-response-attack-could-overwhelm-israeli-air-defense -
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