Debt Rattle June 24 2025
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Rembrandt van Rijn The artist’s son Titus 1657 • If Israel Holds Fire, So Will Iran: Fighting ‘Until The Very Last Minute’ (ZH) • Rope-a-Dope W
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 24 2025]“The USSA is willing to fight Russia down to the Last Ukrainian, what makes you think they aren’t willing to fight Iran down to the last Israeli?”
I loved the part about Iran hitting one Israeli apartment complex with one missile and having the whole complex of pampered dual-citizen ‘zionists’ fly out of Dodge desperate for their wifi and cinnamon foam lattes. Haha
Oh wait, there’s no more airport or functioning seaports!
I guess they will have to walk out or take a donkey!
Hey Israelis can always become illegal immigrants…..
“..was coaxed from a Palantir counter-intelligence algorithm..”
I believe AI will be its own destroyer. As more and more incorrect info is created by itself and then referred to as fact by yet more AI and then expanded upon it will become completely wrong. As more fake everything hits the web it will be viewed with a grain of salt by most. Even shit sent from friends and neighbours will start to be viewed with some skepticism.
I believe it is evolutionary, meaning it is speeding up its own demise. With the speed it is growing at, it looks exponential. Think about all the things that are now less accurate then they used to be, i.e. weather forecasting. Not to mention financial. With trust fading at every turn this shouldn’t take too many more years. Take a look at the evolution of climate science: the ice and sentiment cores all point to the warming first, followed by the rise of CO2 and then rapid cooling. Nowhere do I see this in the modelling, with modelling being the young version of AI. Now with this ass first vision built in you can’t expect any accurate assessment going forward.
As stated here you feed in the answer you want, stand back and wait for your solution to a problem that is framed wrong in the first place. Now run this at millions of times per second and what could possibly go wrong?
My half assed opinion on where AI is headed.“the Trump-induced ceasefire…”
Nothing out of Penis Breath Trump’s mouth can be trusted.
Like ever again.
Place your bets …
Who will be first to claim …..“They violated the ceasefire”
————https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn7ze4vmk2pt?page=3
Live Reporting
Edited by Jenna Moon, Alex Smith and Dulcie Lee, with reporting from BBC Persian and correspondents in Jerusalempublished at 03:57
03:57
Breaking
‘Do not drop those bombs,’ Trump warns Israel after it vows ‘powerful strikes’ on Iran
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Hahahaha
Did you bet against the trend?
Next – Hint: Watch “The NATO conference taking place at the Hague”———–
“the Trump-induced ceasefire…”………is already over.
They’re back to lobbing missiles at each other again. Trump is not terribly happy – ‘Israel and Iran don’t know what the f— they’re doing’ he is quoted as saying.
The Zionists haven’t spent decades working up to their regime change effort in Iran just to stop at the request of anyone in the US. The symbolism of their naming the effort ‘Operation Rising Lion’ is that on the flag of the Shah (installed by the US and whose descendent is now getting airtime in the press) was….a stylised Lion. Not terribly subtle eh?
Hopefully Iran will finish the job now that Israel has shown itself to be uninterested in any alternatives.
@topcat
The bots do seem to be taking stupid to levels even humans struggle to achieve.red, Working 40 a week late in life, I get to observe young people in the wild. Occasionally they discuss ways to pump gibberish into AI. Its like a sport. It can get elaborate and involve teams.
“No trains between Amsterdam, Utrecht and Schiphol until 6 pm”
Tough day in the Netherlands. Roads are closed for the NATO summit; people are supposed to try and work from home, and now this.It wasn’t a “handful” of missiles from Iran into Israel.
It was ~ ONE
And probably not even *from* Iran.
The Israeli response?
Blanket the whole country in red “siren” alert notifications.There’s hope for the younger generation
School projects aren’t like they were when I was a kid.
Excellent trolling the Woketard agenda, these kids will go places!
So I was going to help a buddy re-deck his back porch when I came across this.
Most boss prank ever, we are getting a good realistic Halloween skeleton and partially burying it.
He’s selling the house so in 20 years it will have a superb believable patina, enough to get a CSI unit out to the house to investigate with the new owners.
Jim and the X-clip about Hollywood’s “story telling” as a pretext for the desired goal of certain group.
Such a story-telling talent, that “they” are revered for, is a result of “their” wretched paranoid existence within the society that they reside in. With honorable exceptions, as I said they live within and not with the such society and that existence is life where nepotism, con and swindle are nor a rare occurrences.
US is the home of representatives of every nation on the planet. They immigrated here to build a their new life and proceed to do so solely. I can not think of any other group who would actively seek, even if they could, to grab all key levers of societal power as to subvert US to do the bidding for the nation that they came from.Kunstler…
For all that, often the simplest explanation is the correct one. Of the MOP attack on Iran, Secretary of State Rubio said, “They had all the pieces in place to have a nuclear weapon. . . now, not so much.” Mr. Rubio’s Sunday chat with Maria Bartiromo is well worth a listen for clarity. He also succinctly stated, “They [Iran] are the sole source of instability in the entire Middle East, and the world has been paying a price for this for forty-something years.”
Yet, the American hive-mind is aflame with histrionic hypotheticals over Iran…
Curious that in this SPECIFIC instance, which is any decrease of friendliness to Israel must be perpetrated by non-human animals.
Kunstler has access to, is acquainted with, all the various “conspiracy theories” and non-MSM news sources, analysis. How telling is it that he nevertheless is totally, completely locked into a particular mindset regarding Israel, despite its total dissonance with everything else? HOW this ONE thing?
And it is telling that, being in that mindset, he’s experiencing some fairly heavy-handed paranoia that Americans might be “histrionic” in the sense of “unreaseonable” (dawning realization, ever-increasing reasonableness…) towards Israel.
What does the “concern” over American “historionics” boil down to? The concern over daring to THINK LESS OF Israel? Conflated with anti-semitism?
An end to the gravy train. The end of a neverending gigantic waterfall of free shit.
If I say I swear to love Israel and Jews everywhere with all my heart and all my soul and all my strength for the rest of my days while withholding all military, economic, intelligence, espionage, logistical, and monetary aid of any kind, if we I make dual US/Israeli passports illegal and make all government officials with dual passports recuse themselves, step down from their offices, while continuing to love Israel and Jews everywhere with all my heart and all my soul and all my strength, will you be satisfied by my “reasonableness”? Or will you cry out in pain?
It’s the free shit. It’s ONLY all that free shit.
Behind all that bobbing and weaving in Kunstler’s article,every twist and turn of “logic” and complaint — the gravy train might end.
If I go back 10, 20 years, could I find Kunstler hand-wringnig about Iran just about to have a bomb? I feel sure I COULD if he has not scrubbed his history.
Okay then, you dumb shit:
1. When Israel tells us Iran is about to have a bomb, this is definitely THE TRUTH
2. Israel has been telling us Iran was about to have the bomb 30 years ago
3. That’s THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!! Unquestionable, you bigot!
4. Ergo, Iran got the bomb 30 years ago
5. Checking, Israel is not currently under a mushroom cloud
6. Checking, Israel has never been under a mushroom cloudHey Kunstler, stop worrying about the bomb we unquestionably know – we don’t doubt our greatest ally, never!!!! – Iran got 30 years ago and START worrying about how to stop the Israeli govt from all these endless provocations in which they try to get themselves nuked by doing violent things about the Bomb they already let us know Iran must have gotten 30 years ago.
If 30 years of Iran not nuking you while having the bomb isn’t satisfactory to you and you just HAVE to keep “preventing,” don’t you think you are putting a LOT of energy into changing the state of affairs from not-nuking to nuking?
Israelis of 30, 25, 20, 18, 15, 12, 10, 9, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1, years and also 5 months ago were all ignorant stupid animal food trough water fools, nothing but cheesy leather, second-hand, electric donkey bottom biters, experts at NOTHING! Idiots!!!!!
OOOOOOOONLY listen to Israelis of THIS EXACT SECOND!!! They’re the only big-brain geniuses and all past Israelis were morons, even past versions of the same exact big brain geniuses! Listen ONLY to THIS second Israelis, you horrible, horrible bigot!!!!!!
@ Red
““..was coaxed from a Palantir counter-intelligence algorithm..”Synopsis
Palantir to create vast federal data platform that connects millions of Americans’ private records under a powerful AI system. Backed by the Trump administration, Palantir’s new deal links Social Security, IRS, and immigration data into one centralized system. It uses its Gotham software to flag fraud, track behavior, and potentially shape government decisions. While Palantir stock jumped 5.38% after the news, privacy advocates are raising concerns
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/palantir-to-create-vast-federal-data-platform-tying-together-millions-of-americans-private-records-stock-jumps/articleshow/121521062.cmsWhat could go wrong?
There has been a régime change in Iran on the first strike by Israel, Netanyahu, against Iran.
We are witnessing PART 2 of the war.
American hive-mind is aflame with histrionic…
Right, right, in terms of the styling of ending the gravy train, I COULD go hysterical, unconscious, and brainless, yeah. That would get the job done.
But how about if I reach over to that gravy spigot and, while maintaining so much wisdom, massive genius, superhuman consciousness, and total calm, and with a level of total sanity that, if you could barely conceive of it, my level of total stability, reasonableness, and genius would permanently blow your mind, leaving you drooling, unable to function unassisted in normal, life forevermore, just totally blown away by my super awesome reasonable intelligent conscious genius….
and WHILE doing so, maintaining eye contact with you, I reach over to the spigot labeled “Israel Gravy Train” and. while you object “Stop! Don’t touch that! Don’t you dare do that!” I turn off the spigot? Aaaaaalllllll the way off?
Like, you object to the STYLE in which I turn it off? Is that your beef?
I’m an American, so I am pragmatic. I don’t MIND terribly if I flap my arms, spin in a circle, and ululate and then turn it off.
Trumptard’s ‘ceasefire’ is merely a ploy to re-arm and rest Israel for more action later.
The Russian’s won’t allow a ‘ceasefire’ with Ukraine for that very reason.
Iran doesn’t connect this dots?
Finish off Israeli infrastructure with your missiles.
Make Zionland grind to a halt. Kill it’s economy
If Iran doesn’t act now, Satanyahoo will stab them in the neck while they sleep.
Oh, great, so Israel is relying on “precrime” as justification of its wars of aggression. Because, if it’s from Palantir’s Mosaic software, it must be true!
I believe that everyone should use AI at least a little bit. There needs to be a general understanding that while AI can be very useful to do some “mental heavy-lifting” when there is a time crunch, or an expert is not available at the moment, or the task is mental drudgery and the person doing it is well-versed in the how, and needs to apply their own mind to something else, (not when the something else is TikTok,) AI has flaws! Big, gaping, HUGE flaws. The first time that I used it — looking through data on websites — it lied, said that it had found what I was looking for when the underlying data did not support it. My son and I sometimes get stumped on a Calculus problem or the reasoning behind a step on a calculus problem, and will throw it to ChatGPT to see what steps are used or to check an answer. Sometimes this is very helpful — the AI doesn’t skip steps, and further clarification can be asked. But sometimes ChatGPT’s answers are wrong, its methods flawed, so we have to be wary of its responses! Everyone should use AI a little, so that all understand that it has value, but is not a god.
I think that what it comes down to is that Israel *wants* to believe Mosaic’s wild guesses. So, off they go, prosecuting pre crimes.
Co-op grocery chain in the UK is boycotting Israel.
Today (24th June) Co-op has announced that it will stop sourcing relationships with countries where there are internationally recognised community-wide human rights abuses and violations of international law *.
@ Topcat
Wouldn’t you know it, Clinton’s head pops up again. He’s trying to make the D party look like the reasonable party, nevermind the planning went on in the Biden administration. Clinton in CYA mode.
When speaking of politicians,
The name you may invoke,
Should always be understood to be
An insult or a joke.The internet tells me we’ve given roughly 200 billion in aid to Israel since the 50’s. I doubt this severely. But let’s say inflation-adjusted it ends up being 300 Billion? Because we are gullible fucking idiots?
Hey AI, what was the population of Gaza in 1980?
The population of the Gaza Strip in 1980 was estimated to be between 818,300 and 832,400 people
Hey AI, what’s $300,000,000,000/800,000?
$375,000
Hey AI, whats’ the exchange rate Dollars vs the Egyptian Pound?
0.020 US Dollar
And how does the purchasing power match up?
1.0 US Dollar = 50.05 Egyptian Pound
And what is $300,000,000,000 / 0.020?
15,000,000,000,000
And what is $15,000,000,000,000 x £E 50?
750,000,000,000,000
What is $750,000,000,000,000 in dollar-equivalent purchasing power / 800,000 Gazans, then?
$937,500,000 per Gazan – every man, woman, child, and infant
If we assume an average of 1 family pet per Gazan and divide the dollar-equivalent purchasing power by Gazans AND their pets, how much can each of their pets each get?
$750,000,000,000,000 / 1,600,000 Gazans and Pets =
Each and every Gazan dog, cat, gerbil, and goldfish gets $468,750,000 in dollar-equivalent purchasing power in Egypt
AI, could EVERY SINGLE Gazan been easily bribed to willingly move out of Gaza at these levels? Could 1/100th of the aid US have accomplished the task? Hell, go crazy and make it 1/50th? Is it possible INDIVIDUAL bombs and missiles used to try to drive Gazans out cost as much as would have bought them a nice house in Egypt?
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(obviously, not using AI for the entire sequence…)
Why didn’t Israel BRIBE the Gazans out? They’d have been done with the project decades ago. So why? Because the Gazans would have HAD THAT MONEY don’t you see, and that’s wrong, sir. Wrong.
lol looking back I fucked up one of the calculations, but there would STILL be a ridiculous $ amount per Gazan goldfish if they had simply paid them all to leave.
https://www.rt.com/news/620165-us-joins-iran-bombing/
Iran vows ‘decisive response’ if Israel violates truce: LIVE UPDATES
Tehran says it will halt missile barrages if West Jerusalem stops its attacks first24 June 2025
17:03 GMT
IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir has said that the “campaign against Iran is not over.”“Now, the focus returns to Gaza, to bringing the hostages home and toppling Hamas rule,” he added.
15:22 GMT
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte has lauded US President Donald Trump for his “decisive action” in Iran, according to screenshots shared by the latter on social media.13:58 GMT
Iran’s President Masoud Pezeshkian has said that Tehran will respect the truce with West Jerusalem if Israel does same.“If the Zionist regime does not violate the ceasefire, Iran will not violate it either,” Pezeshkian told Malaysian Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim on the phone, according to the presidential website.
would you sell the alamo?
would you sell independence hall?
would you sell mt. rushmore?
would you sell bourbon street?
would you sell lambaugh field?
would you sell marine world!?War is a game of snide and pique-
A masquerade of ruses.
Who’ll spin the wheel this upcoming week?
And who’s got control of the fuses?“….so Israel is relying on “precrime”
Minoriy Report
I was always a big fan of Philip K Dick as a teenager.
The UK has sunk into total despotism at this point and I always attributed that to their Lizard Overlords using Orwell as an instruction manual and not a dire warning.
Hollywood is one big psy-op with Walt Dismal and Dismaland being the vanguard for propaganda of children.
Hell even Kruschev wanted to visit Disneyland in 1959 but was denied a visit for ‘security reasons’.
Movies are made as psy-ops for different reasons over the years but Hollywood was really just an extension of the MIC.
Testing propaganda scenarios, throwing plots against the wall to see what would stick to the American psyche so as to readjust ‘the narrative’ to maximum impact.
McGregor Telling the Truth.
That we are, sadly, aware of.
Strangely, he did not mention communist to be a threat to the country,
Underlying message is is that US is done for and nobody has it him or her to fix it beyond the, well, Telling the Truth only. The reason I made my post few days back as to contemplate as what it takes to make a genuine change – for good or bad.WWF Style American Foreign Policy https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/wwf-style-american-foreign-policy
I’ll briefly encapsulate progress on Israeli inducements to the US to enter total war against Iran, as Israel’s population becomes war weary, defensive missiles run out, and Netanyahu has been outside the country the whole time, first in Greece, then in London, based upon flight tracking data.
Netanyahu’s coalition of aggressive revisionist-Zionists persists in power while it advances aggressive war for territory and elimination of regional resistance rivals. It has been straining the limits of Israeli support recently, as Jewish Israelis are driven out of their dwellings into air raid shelters. It has been losing its aura of invulnerability, but is still seen as a rabid dog with nuclear weapons.
The question arising is whether there is a political path to end the escalation towards Israeli use of nuclear weapons against other countries. American lawmakers are mostly owned by the well-funded Israeli interests, which they keep funding…
Russians are trying to be constructive without assuming much more risk. Chinese are using their new railroad to Iran, and providing air defense missiles through Pakistan, while Trump makes a deal with Iran to bomb emptied Iranian underground nuclear facilities, without Iran shooting at the bombers, let Iran attack emptied US regional military bases, declare “Mission Accomplished” and have a ceasefire between Israel and Iran.
Israel and Iran sort of agreed privately, but Israel assassinated another Iranian scientist and his family, and heavily attacked Iran, so Iran shot off some missiles just before the deadline, and Israel sent more bombers to kill Iranians after the deadline. Trump profanely griped at “both” Israel and Iran, and Israel responded by saying “he knew we would attack”.
The most tense dynamic seems to be between the Netanyahu coalition maintaining power, and the increasing costs to Israel of the war which maintains them in power. They would “burn the country to rule over the ashes”, as Sun Tzu wrote.
Netanyahu is in London, as far as we know, the traditional head of the imperial snake. Imperial finance needs WW-3 (lite?) to be able to write off some bad investments in the Ukraine war and elsewhere.
Finance comes first in this game, so Israelis may well be hostages to more incoming Iranian missiles, which almost completel spare civilians in targeting so far. There has not been enough killing of Israeli civilians to galvanize Jewish Israelis into supporting vengeance upon Iran (yet). Imperial financiers, European old money and bloodline familieswill not give up power willingly. No sacrifice of others is to great to maintain their power.
Trump, to his credit, does appear to have made a show of fake-fighting to create the appearance of “going all the way for Israel”, to the brink of WW-3, through the appearance of an illegal, unconstitutional, unprovoked attack on Iranian underground nuclear facilities, which was actually a staged and “fixed” fight for the television audience. The Iranians did not send up one missile or fighter plane against the bombers on this arranged mission.
Iran is declaring that it will continue “unlimited” nuclear enrichment, will exclude IAEA inspectors, who have provided intelligence to Israel, and will keep attacking Israel until Israel stops attacking Iran, since Israel started it. Iran will not tell the IAEA where the enriched uranium is stored, for obvious reasons.
Iran and Israel are now starting the ceasefire over, as Trump does NATO.
Israel is still baiting starving Palestinians with food and murdering them, as well as bombing the rubble and tents in which they seek shelter.Scott Ritter asserted promptly after the attack that Trump bombed 3 sites, 2 already bombed by Israel, and all already evacuated before the bombing, in order to save face and crow loudly, with the hopes of not really going to war with Iran (which is better than really doing it): Ritter’s Rant Ep. 9: Where’s the Beef?
President Trump just sent the most sophisticated weapons in the US arsenal to bomb three empty sites in Iran. Why? https://scottritter.substack.com/p/ritters-rant-009-wheres-the-beef Saturday night: Exclusive: Iran given advance notice as US insisted attack on nuclear sites is ‘one-off’
The story: US President Donald Trump says three key nuclear facilities in Iran have been “obliterated,” while threatening more strikes “if peace does not come quickly.” This comes as Amwaj.media has learned that Washington notified Tehran of the strikes. Speaking on condition of anonymity, a high-ranking Iranian political source confirmed that the Trump administration on June 21 conveyed that it did not seek an all-out confrontation, and only intended to strike the Fordow, Isfahan and Natanz nuclear sites. Importantly, the senior source also confirmed that the targeted sites were evacuated, with “most” of Iran’s stockpile of enriched uranium kept in secure locations.
The details: The US bombings do not appear to have been conducted from any American military base in the region.
Reports indicate that at least three B-2 bombers flying from the US dropped six 13.6 ton (30,000 lbs) Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) bombs on the Fordow underground uranium enrichment site. Experts speculate that two bombs were dropped on each of Fordow’s two main entrances along with two MOPs on the ventilation shaft.
A submarine is believed to have fired 30 Tomahawk missiles at the Natanz uranium enrichment facility as well as the nuclear complex in Isfahan. Notably, both of the sites have been bombed by Israel in recent days.
Citing a “well-placed source,” CBS has reported that “Isfahan and its underground facility was probably a harder target than Fordow.” …
..The damage: In his June 21 statement, Trump said the targeted Iranian facilities were “completely and totally obliterated,” warning that any potential future attacks would be “far greater and a lot easier.” … However, initial data that allows a damage assessment is still lacking. Prior to the bombings, some studies suggested that multiple MOPs would need to be dropped in the same craters…
..The future: Already under severe attack by Israel, Iran has little interest in a simultaneous all-out war with the US. Prior to the June 21 bombings, Tehran declared that it was open to resuming nuclear negotiations with the Trump administration—but only if Israel ceases its attacks…
..As Amwaj.media previously reported, Israel’s focus on the necessity for Trump to strike Fordow appears to have been designed to convince him to enter a war with Iran. Indeed, Iranian authorities have already indicated that nuclear materials were removed from Fordow. https://amwaj.media/en/media-monitor/exclusive-iran-given-advance-notice-as-us-insisted-attack-on-nuclear-sites-is-one Trucks already moved important assets out of Fordow, and satellite images show surface changes of bombing strikes:
Satellite Imagery Flags “Unusual Activity” At Iran’s Fordow Nuclear Site Days Before U.S. Strike https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/satellite-imager-flags-unusual-activity-irans-fordo-nuclear-site-days-us-strike Simplicius has better intel. The trucks were dump trucks, filling up the entrances, exits and air-vents the American were about to bomb at Fordow, with dirt:
Shayrat Redux? Trump’s ‘Invisible’ Fleet Leaves Mirage of ‘Devastation’ in Iran
Iran had dozens of dump trucks carrying out “unusual activity” at Fordow two days before the attack. https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/shayrat-redux-trumps-invisible-fleet
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