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    John Day
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    ​Gilbert Doctorow with Glenn Diesen: U.S. Bombing of Iran as Political Theatre? https://gilbertdoctorow.substack.com/p/glenn-diesen-us-bombing-of-iran-as

    Yesterday’s Iranian missile attacks on evacuated US military bases and ports: Missiles Inbound Over Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq As Iranian Retaliation On US Bases Underway https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-press-secretary-hints-iran-regime-change-claims-intel-said-weeks-nuclear

    2 days ago; part of the show: Medvedev Reacts: ‘Number Of Countries’ Now Ready To Supply Iran With ‘Their Own Nuclear Warheads’ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/medvedev-reacts-number-countries-now-ready-supply-iran-their-own-nuclear-warheads

    ​ Russia’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations, Vassily Nebenzia, has criticised Israel for not being subject to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspection programme, as it is not a signatory to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT).
    ​ Nebenzia made the remarks during an emergency session of the UN Security Council held on Sunday to discuss the recent US attacks on Iran.​ https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250623-russia-criticises-israels-exemption-from-nuclear-inspections/

    ​ But Bibi is in London… Putin to Netanyahu: ‘Read My Lips—Stop Attacking Iran’ or ‘Prepare For Consequences’
    “The West is providing Israel with diplomatic cover while fanning the flames of war,” a senior Russian diplomat stated. “They are sabotaging any path to peaceful negotiation.”​ https://vtforeignpolicy.com/2025/06/putin-to-netanyahu-read-my-lips-stop-attacking-iran-or-prepare-for-consequences/

    #190882
    John Day
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    Secretive Monday meeting with nice words​; no real statements: ​Iranian FM Araghchi says he had ‘very good’ meeting with Putin in Moscow​ https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/06/23/750068/fm-araghchi-very-good-meeting-with-putin-moscow

    ​ Saturday night Iranian attacks on Israel:​ Iranian missiles struck 14 strategic military sites in Israel’s Haifa, Tel Aviv last night: IRGC
    IRGC launches 19th wave of ‘Operation True Promise 3’ with large number of offensive, suicide drones​ https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/iranian-missiles-struck-14-strategic-military-sites-in-israel-s-haifa-tel-aviv-last-night-irgc/3607443

    ​Yesterday: Israel Hits Tehran Electric Plant; Iran Hits Israeli Electric Plant Back – Multiple Targets Hit in Tehran Later https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/israel-hits-tehran-electric-plant-iran-hits-israeli-electric-plant-back

    90% of Israeli strikes hit residential sites in Tehran​ https://en.mehrnews.com/news/233578/90-of-Israeli-strikes-hit-residential-sites-in-Tehran

    ​Sunday: Iranian parliament moves to close Strait of Hormuz after US aggression: Lawmaker https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/06/22/750031/iranian-parliament-moves-close-strait-hormuz-after-us-aggression-lawmaker

    #190883
    John Day
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    Monday: Widespread GPS Jamming Across Strait Of Hormuz; Six Supertankers Perform Abrupt U-Turns https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/supertankers-u-turn-hormuz-world-braces-iranian-retaliation

    US asks China to stop Iran from closing Strait of Hormuz​ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c056pyv723vo

    Monday evening: Iran Reportedly Agrees To Trump-Backed, Qatari-Mediated Ceasefire With Israel https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-press-secretary-hints-iran-regime-change-claims-intel-said-weeks-nuclear

    After Midnight in Iran: Iran has not agreed to a ceasefire. Trump is lying again https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/514877/Iran-has-not-agreed-to-a-ceasefire-Trump-is-lying-again

    This morning, headed off to NATO Summit: “They Don’t Know What The F**K They’re Doing” – Furious Trump Slams Israel As Fragile Ceasefire Crumbles https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-press-secretary-hints-iran-regime-change-claims-intel-said-weeks-nuclear

    #190884
    John Day
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    ‘He Knew We’d Attack’ – Israel Complains At Trump’s Comments After Iran Ceasefire Falters​ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israeli-official-confirms-rift-ceasefire-fails-trump-vowed-israel-wont-strike-after-he

    ​ Iran Reopens Airspace To Commercial Flights As Ceasefire With Israel Finally Holds
    ​ The ceasefire seems to finally be holding as of early evening local time, despite the ongoing accusations of earlier violations when it was to take effect.
    “Both Israel and Iran wanted to stop the War, equally! It was my great honor to Destroy All Nuclear facilities & capability, and then, STOP THE WAR!” President Trump said on Truth Social. ​ ​(Were they all destroyed?​)
    ​ And China has belatedly weighed in, with Foreign Minister Wang Yi saying China supports Iran in achieving a “genuine ceasefire” – but following Beijing’s condemnation of the US for striking the country’s nuclear sites.​ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israeli-official-confirms-rift-ceasefire-fails-trump-vowed-israel-wont-strike-after-he

    Israeli Forces Kill 43 Palestinians in Gaza, Including 20 Aid Seekers​ https://news.antiwar.com/2025/06/23/israeli-forces-kill-43-palestinians-in-gaza-including-20-aid-seekers/

    ​Children starving to death, though: For most Palestinians, staying hungry is better​ than risking Murder By IDF life to get Food Aid​ https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250623-for-most-gazans-staying-hungry-is-better-than-risking-life-to-get-aid/

    Only to ​designated​ ​target-sites​?… Israel denied half of aid movement requests in Gaza over weekend: UN​ https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250623-israel-denied-half-of-aid-movement-requests-in-gaza-over-weekend-un/

    #190885
    John Day
    Participant

    ​Borrowing until nobody will lend: Trump At NATO Summit To Push ‘Historic’ 5% Spending Goal Amid Global Conflicts https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-nato-summit-push-historic-5-spending-goal-amid-global-conflicts

    Michael Hudson has been on for the whole petrobuck epoch: War on Iran is fight for US unipolar control of world
    The motivation for the attack on Iran has nothing to do with any attempt by Iran to protect its national sovereignty by developing an atom bomb. The basic problem is that the United States has taken the initiative in trying to preempt Iran and other countries from breaking away from dollar hegemony and U.S. unipolar control.
    ​ Here’s how the neocons spell out the U.S. national interest in overthrowing the Iranian government and bringing about a regime change – not necessarily a secular democratic regime change, but perhaps an extension of the ISIS/Al-Qaida Wahhabi terrorists who have taken over Syria.
    ​ With Iran broken up and its component parts turned into a set of client oligarchies, U.S. diplomacy can control all Middle Eastern oil. And control of oil has been a cornerstone of U.S. international economic power for a century, thanks to U.S. oil companies operating internationally (not only as domestic U.S. producers of oil and gas) and remitting economic rents extracted from overseas to make a major contribution to the U.S. balance of payments.
    ​ Control of Middle Eastern oil also enables the dollar diplomacy that has seen Saudi Arabia and other OPEC countries invest their oil revenues into the U.S. economy by accumulating vast holdings of U.S. Treasury securities and private-sector investments.​ https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2025/06/22/michael-hudson-war-iran-us-unipolar-control/

    ​ Hollywood seeded Iran war narrative for years – WikiLeaks
    Jewish screenwriters have allegedly pushed the image of an Iranian nuclear threat through film and TV since the early 2010s​ https://swentr.site/news/620340-holywood-jews-iran-war/

    US Military Scrambles For Ways To Protect Bases From Drone Warfare
    ​ The use of kinetic systems that would simply shoot down a drone are out of the question on American soil, according to military personnel, as they are not cost-effective, and would also run the risk of injuring civilians or damaging property when the debris fell to the ground…​ ​..While the military, and federal government, do have electromagnetic weapons that can knock out drones by interfering with their electrical and navigational systems, these weapons are typically poorly suited to an environment rich in aerial traffic because they affect all electronic systems within a given area…
    ​..Many such systems, including variants of weapons using lasers, microwaves, and particle and sound beams, are still in development, but they bring their own problems because of high energy consumption.
    ​ According to the Congressional Research Service, the Pentagon’s newest counter-drone weapons would need to draw 100 kilowatts of power to fire a laser in a counter-drone capacity.
    ​ That’s more power than the average American household uses in three days, and that figure does not include the additional power requirements for cooling the significant amount of heat generated by such weapons.
    ​ It makes defending military installations on U.S. soil from drone attacks an infrastructure problem as well as a defense problem.​ https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-military-scrambles-ways-protect-bases-drone-warfare

    Supreme Court Hands Trump Huge Win On Deporting ‘Worst Of The Worst’ Illegals​ https://www.zerohedge.com/political/supreme-court-hands-trump-huge-win-deporting-worst-worst-illegals

    #190886
    John Day
    Participant

    German police caught dropping off migrant in Dutch border city
    A florist’s security camera captured the moment German police left a migrant across the border in the Netherlands, raising questions over “cold transfers” and the legality of the practice​ https://rmx.news/article/german-police-caught-dropping-off-migrant-in-dutch-border-city/

    ​Displacing thre cost to who? UK Government To Slash Industrial Energy Costs https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-government-slash-industrial-energy-costs

    For AI, not lasers, I presume: New York To Build Gigawatt Nuclear Power Plant, Backed By Trump-Era Reforms https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/new-york-build-1gigawatt-nuclear-power-plant-backed-trump-era-reforms

    ​ “Labor-saving devices”: MIT Study Finds Artificial Intelligence Use Reprograms the Brain, Leading to Cognitive Decline
    ChatGPT impairs memory and persistently suppresses brain activity—raising urgent concerns about cognitive offloading and long-term neural harm.​ https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/mit-study-finds-artificial-intelligence

    ​ “Unintended Consequences” of the COVID-19 Lockdown: Millions of People in the Poorest Areas of the World Died of Starvation, Not COVID-19
    People whose deaths were irrelevant, and Ignored by the Mainstream Media​ https://www.globalresearch.ca/unintended-consequences-covid-19-lockdown-millions-people-poorest-died-starvation/5892153

    #190887
    John Day
    Participant

    Pierre Kory MD, Medical Record Review Of the Twins Who Died After Vaccination And A Review Of The Literature Proving SIDS Is Caused By Vaccines
    I was asked by Children’s Health Defense and the parents to review the medical records of twins found dead in their bed eight days after multiple vaccinations. Related? Yes, says the hidden science.
    ​ Dallas and Tyson Shaw died on the night of the 7th day following their 18th-month well-baby visit, where they received five vaccinations during that visit – DTaP, Influenza, and Hep A.​.. They were generally healthy, typically developed children for their corrected age, with no issues with hearing or vision. They had also received all the ACIP-recommended vaccines up to that point, although at the time of the visit, they were “behind on DTaP for 3 months,” until they both received them on the fateful day of 4/23/25.​..
    ​..The children were immediately taken to the ER on that day, 4/24/25, with documented complaints of “warmth” and “decreased activity.” The ER doc documented that it was “likely a reaction to immunization,” but the chart also included a viral URI in the differential diagnosis. Sent home AFTER GETTING TYLENOL ( a risk factor for death, which I will not explore in this post for the sake of brevity).​..
    ..7 days after the vaccines, on April 30th, they were still having diarrhea. Mom tried to get them in to see the pediatrician, but there were no walk-in appointments available…​
    ​..”I went and cleaned up the living room and was getting ready to have them awake. I was waiting for them to wake up. When I went in there to wake them up is when I found them the way they were.​”
    ​ She then describes the way she found them – cold and “they It looked as if they had gone in their sleep. They were in their sleeping positions. I think it’s called rigor mortis. Their faces were sleeping faces.​ I flipped over Tyson because I tried to shake him awake, and he didn’t. I flipped him over and I saw him and immediately ran to the living room to grab my phone and call 911. And I went back into the room and sat on their bed, and then that’s when I flipped Dallas over and saw her the same way.​” …
    ..Imagine drowning in grief over the sudden deaths of your beloved babies while having to endure aggressive and accusatory questioning by detectives? Welcome to the even darker side of the childhood vaccine program, folks…
    ​..MY IMPRESSION AS TO THE CAUSE OF DEATH OF THE SHAW TWINS
    IMPRESSION: Sudden death from severe apnea caused by recent vaccination at 18-month wellness visit. The underlying pathophysiology was likely due to micro-strokes and/or neuroinflammation in the respiratory control center in the brainstem, with micro-strokes caused by “blood sludging/clumping” from loss of zeta-potential due to the inflammatory and or hypercoagulable components of the vaccines.
    ​ The deaths occurred on the night of Day 7 post-vaccination, a time when apnea episodes spike post-vaccination as per this carefully done study from 1991.​ https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/medical-record-review-of-the-twins

    ​ What if the upside is fake? Peter McCullough MD, Should We “Trade” Human Life with Immunization Programs?
    Americans Asked to Risk Their Lives with the Needle to “Save Millions’​ https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/should-we-trade-human-life-with-immunization

    #190888
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ Threat in Your Medicine Cabinet: The FDA’s Gamble on America’s Drugs/ ProPublica
    Risky Medications: The FDA has given more than 20 foreign factories a special pass to continue sending drugs to the U.S. even though they were made at plants that the agency had banned.
    ​ Troubled Factories: The medications came mostly from plants in India where inspectors found contaminated drugs, filthy labs and falsified records.
    FDA Secrecy: The agency did not proactively inform the public when drugs were exempted from import bans, and it did not routinely test the medications to ensure they were safe.​ https://merylnass.substack.com/p/threat-in-your-medicine-cabinet-the

    We Spent a Year Investigating How the FDA Let Risky Drugs Into the U.S. Market/ ProPublica​ https://www.propublica.org/article/fda-methodology-american-medicine-research

    ​ Medical researcher, Dr. Marian Laderoute may get to address ACIP, Concerns About the Safety of the Spike mRNA Gene Therapy Products
    Submitted to the ACIP for their Meeting on Vaccines​ https://hervk102.substack.com/p/concerns-about-the-safety-of-the

    ​ CDC Scientist Leaves Agency Over Split With RFK Jr.
    Dr. Fiona Havers told The New York Times that she resigned from the CDC on June 16 because she disagrees with the approach to vaccines under Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
    ​ “If it isn’t stopped, and some of this isn’t reversed, like, immediately, a lot of Americans are going to die as a result of vaccine-preventable diseases,” Havers said.
    ​ Kennedy’s approach so far has included the narrowing of COVID-19 vaccine recommendations and the removal of all members of the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP).
    ​ Kennedy has since named eight new members to the panel, which provides advice on immunizations to the CDC.
    “I could not be party to legitimizing this new committee,” Havers told The New York Times.​ https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cdc-scientist-leaves-agency-over-split-rfk-jr

    #190889
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Meg-A

    Yeah, that’s not how that works. MAGA was the Idea. We hired YOU to execute it. We didn’t hire you to do whatever you wanted. If you’re against the idea, you’re fired. That’s why he should fall on his sword as a blood sacrifice for the country. And yeah, okay, you might need to get your affairs in order since the other side will use that as evil and not good, but that’s what is most direct right now. Think of it: go out, admit (half) of what you’re doing and why, drop the dossiers from Congress, Epstein, Kennedy, in C130 pallets, hitting the ground nationwide, let them handcuff you, walk over the Pontius’s place, let them do what they will. …Sound, Fury, Nothing. …But then? Then again, the country can face what its done, choose, right, rebuild itself, knowing. Lots of people saying free, raw deal! No, he deserved it! No he did a bad thing but Reasons, No! We do the law. No!

    Here’s the point, like Gen Washington, you lay down your life as general and king for the …myth?…of the country? Proving it with action? You see why this would work? MAGA can still be split over it…but the DNC and Davos would not prevail, even so.

    Anyway, back to the real world, looks like Vance no like this, he has the same impression the rest of us do about this. Didn’t resign, but like Gabbard, pissed off and at their limits about this decision.

    So I hear we’ve just been given a reason to leave all our Bases of Empire and Colonization in the Middle East? They can’t be supported? Huh. More banana peels.

    They do this AND have a cease fire? More banana peels.

    “He bombed two empty facilities that had been previously struck by Israel.
    And he bounced six bombs off an indestructible facility (Firdos), claiming destruction despite the opposite being the case.”

    Yes, and WHY? I see this on the Internet, YES we’re dunking on Trump, both doing this, and claiming idiot PR campaign about it, ha ha. Yeah, so smart guy: WHY? …Yeah, then you’re back to a theory like mine.

    Let me put it this way: this s—t didn’t fool Mossad. GRU knows. Iran sure as f– knows. It fooled YOU, and you’re not fooled? Wow, so smart! Okay, because the PR CAMPAIGN IS THE POINT. Why?

    TRUMP PUT NUTSY BACK IN A PR BOX. Otherwise, makes no sense. Right? Who is this trick, this show for? Selling to the masses. Now the masses will be like “Bomb Iran? Invade Iran? Wtf, we just DID that! We just won everything over there! This is bulls—t I ain’t going!”

    Israel like Ze says “Another $40B please! We need bigger bunker busters!” Huh? TRUMP JUST GAVE YOU ALL THAT. What are you on about, you loon? If it didn’t work then, it ain’t gonna work again now, go away!

    Like that. And again, he can’t sell this with an AI video, he needs to DO something. Act. Send those B2s on national TV. That’s the magic bean he grows this beanstalk from. Sorry. If everyone was up to speed we wouldn’t have to do this, but everyone’s grown up in a violent, abusive household and daddy’s still in the next room.

    That’s who this is for and why.

    Now something I missed to add yesterday, I have to cross off, or downrate a dozen more thinkers and sources for missing this. Luongo for instance is spinning and needs to take a week. He’s like Positive confirmation central, because his fat brain can’t make sense of the too-many facts flying around. Point is, not that he’s stupid, but that that is how it is. Always. In Intel. Their JOB is to misdirect you, there’s no other way to hide and do things. But that level of spinning isn’t calm and clear, we know you can only spitball which path we’re on and what next, we’re all there too. Krainer is placid, he’s sticking with the larger narrative, that they want/need Iran as a colony, which is strictly true. But that doesn’t tell us anything new, so…

    But that’s not what I’m saying here. Suppose I call an “L” and take up CitizenX and TDK’s and everyone’s prediction and advice on this? Still can’t. Let’s say they’re right even though they too, have provided nothing new: they’ve still been dead wrong on the LAST 10,000 things and of no help. The Black Pill doesn’t work either, folks. What is it doing? Why are they using it, for which I understand? Emotionally, it’s easier. It contains the EMOTIONS. …Meaning they care, but great, so do the rest of us, I need accurate thinking and predicting more. Infantrymen, Marines can care, with Emotions, that’s good for their job saving brothers. Intel guys not so much. Emotion clouds their judgment and is meant to. Our hating Israel for their actions causes us to miss things. Or to want the underdog, the colonized to win. Or whatever it is. Remember, the top level are psychos, they have no emotion, and so they know the only difference between us and them is our emotions, so they engineer to use that against us, like any con man. They think that is our WEAKNESS. We think that’s our strength, but on the game board you can’t PLAY it as a weakness. No Black Pill. If there were a Black Pill, the population would ALREADY be 500M, we’d already have more cameras than London, we’d already be in the camps. SOMEBODY is out there fighting, holding this back. Don’t denigrate their hard work.

    Post yesterday, Docktorow, Same as Luongo, JB, me, this is theater, also supported by what we find out has been hit. Iran then theater-hits the BRITISH Intel site this was arranged from, then the American bases after we carefully empty them. Huh, and huh?

    So Israel is allowed to go nuts, which bad for the nation, then BECAUSE they went nuts, Trump took them off the leash, IRAN gets to blow the crap out of them. “We were innocent! We were just sitting here across the ocean, doing what YOU told us, Israel!” Now it’s not that Israel vanishes, is a cinder, etc, what happened? Israel took a gambit, lost, the army is shot, their missiles are shot, their PR is shot, they have no ports, no refineries, and possibly THEIR nuclear site was “blown up” (prob bombing the doors sealed like they did in Iran) at Dimona. So what is that 36k insurance claims Israel pays, $7B at a pop in anti-missiles, to prove they can’t defend anything at all and the world diaspora goes back home, neither safe nor joining the army. Wow, boy that Trump banana peel again.

    And so IF you were doing this, what’s Nutsy’s pitch now? He sounds like Zelensky: hey dude we just gave you EVERYTHING ON THE PLANET, it did nothing, and we have no factories for more. Game over, go home. What’s his gambit and pitch to U.S. congress now? I’m sure the same but there’s no…how-do-I-say, TIMING. He ‘can’t’ now nuke Iran, which was their only go, the only way to toss the losing game board. And like Ukraine, Israel is now a massive net DRAIN on Europe, banking, etc. Oil Price. Insurance.

    Markets all good, right? Huh? Yeah, because they’re on the page I’m on: it’s all theater. Remember same for Oct 7? We were all, wtffffff? And some others. Trump went around 100 days, asked all Middle East: “what do you need? What’s the end state game everyone can live with?” Got the picture, so all Middle East supports this. No Hezbollah, no Hamas mostly, no Saudi, no Jordan, no Iraq. All even ALLOWED Israel to do this. Airspace, using their own anti-missles to help.

    Don’t look at me: look at them!!! Don’t look at me, or Trump, look at China, Russia, the whole Pan-Arab area! If this is all so bad, why did THEY do nothing, not me? Because they have the same sense I do: both nations are cut in half. Israel may “fall” – or the Nutsy government and their whack-a-loons – Iran comes back to a stable state.

    Luongo’s latest is even MORE complicated, although he’s stopped spinning and is apologizing to Krainer who he respects, for expecting a fight, and because he was too defensive and worried, causing one. He’s saying EUROPE creates Kayfabe. They create an Israel to betray them on command when they’re no longer useful. We’ve already seen that with the pipelines and Leviathan field. It sure looked like EUROPE was throwing them under. Then Oct 7 goes off, making SURE Israel has to take their psychological part as Monster. And they did. With hot sauce.

    But Europe ALSO created the Monster Iran in order to burn and betray. That’s the JPCOA Obama deal. They need war, so THEY need monsters – no one in the Middle East needs any more monsters! They’ve had enough bombings for one century. So Europe/London betray IRAN as well. And they can ALSO play their part in Kayfabe, as although maybe can’t get totally INSIDE, can so blindingly antagonize them from the outside with fake ghey wars and colonial attacks that Iran is seething at all of us, and rightfully so!

    What does the Iran nuke mean? Hey, guys: IRAN’S NUKE HITS LONDON. Do you understand? Yeah, sure, it’s made to hit Israel, but if — I – get hold of it I CAN BLACKMAIL EUROPE, blame Iran, and keep the whole war going forever. With one Dr. No.

    So No: no Israel, no Iran, and no U.S. We don’t get to “win” either, we leave too. As the bases are bombed and “closed”. What does Trump say? “Oh you thought it was a forever war, didn’t trust me, but see, it’s the midterms, war over, half our boys home.” How you gonna do that the other way? We already TRIED that the other way. Israel lobby + no narrative = nobody comes home, nothing changes.

    But we’z Wun! We wun the big war, now we can come home! Right? What’s Israel going to say? Well they dgaf, but what are their congressional employees going to say? I mean SAY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE who were just told we won on national TV? That we should stay? Go ahead and sell that in Pittsburgh.

    No, I don’t like it, and yes, we would impeach and run it another way. But this is where we are.

    “If Iran attacks U.S. military bases, Trump is pulled into a regional conflict beyond what most have contemplated,”

    Does it tho? We just had those attacks, hitting nothing. All for TV.

    Iran is so mad they blocked Hormuz, helping the U.S. and hurting Europe. …And Europe can always use our NordStream to buy Russia’s oil at a slight markup. Awww.

    “The globalists want to put Iran & Russia in the same bucket to try to induce a 2-front kinetic war”

    They absolutely do, that’s what was stopped so far.

    ““..was coaxed from a Palantir counter-intelligence algorithm..”
    • The Key Nuclear Allegation That Started The War (Alastair Crooke)

    You’re using your telepathy to believe that THEY believed it. Do they? Why would they? They know what the machine is. Are they scamming themselves?

    Besides, the CIA/MilIntel have already had their own for 20 years, that’s probably what John Titor was. So you’re claiming that…supercomputers…are something new? Do you hear yourself?

    Oh, btw same “Master intel supercomputers” that failed to see Oct 7 and failed to hit anyone afterwards? That AI supercomputer?

    The con that’s being run is on YOU, not them. If they’re saying fairy tales like this the story is for the masses. The most, deepest, dumbest masses. No one else would get past the first paragraph, as I just didn’t, on your behalf.

    ““How is it that such a lie got into a script about Wikileaks?” Assange asked..”
    • Hollywood Seeded Iran War Narrative For Years – Wikileaks (RT)

    Yup, tons of talk about “Top Gun”. Now, like the 250th Military parade, what does that mean? TRUMP DIDN’T PLAN THIS. All these plans have been around 5, 10, 25 years. It’s been the plan since Gen Clark said we were going to attack, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran, in that order. Well butter my bum and call me a biscuit!

    Okay so the NeoCons have been doing this since Kissinger. 1) Everybody knows it, why are you shocked. 2) Who is keeping them in, since they’re all failing morons 3) Why can’t you stop them since you saw them and their plans 30 years ago. 4) How do you stop them now?

    Yeah, uh, the only POSSIBLE answer is, they’re not running themselves, and Dick Cheney is busy. SO THEY HAVE A BOSS. WHO is that boss, since is sure aint us, Iran, Italy, or a whole bunch of other people/nations who come and gone since then? Not China. Not Russia. Not Bolivia. Who’s left? Who gains? Israel, but being flattened? Front line of a war, all being killed? Not really! How about Bosses, Bankers, people who live in Switzerland NOT being bombed? Sound more likely? We know it’s not the U.S. since they’re pissed as s—t at us and we keep fighting them. Gee, I think by process of elimination we have DAVOS, EU. THEY are the ones with the power to force-install Walz, Bolton, etc. They are the ones who own the Media, including movies – Not Trump!

    “• No Justification For Attack On Iran – Putin (RT)

    Really? Strange reaction from Russia then.

    ““..the war in Iran likewise has as an aim blocking trade with China and Russia and countering moves away from the U.S.-centered neoliberal order..”

    Hes’ saying this correctly, but is being heard wrongly. What is the “NeoLiberal Order”? The NeoCon order. But with business, not just war. Aka, the “West”. They are CENTERED in the U.S. because they have pirated our army, etc, but as we know the same people are trying to DESTROY the U.S. not make it strong as Rome. So you have “Business, Colonial pan, anti-nationalist, anti-populist West” aka “Globalists” who are attacking Iran, Russia, BRIICS to colonize the remaining resistors. Clearly the U.S. is doing nothing for them but pissing the Globalists off, ’cause they’re mad as hatters at us.

    “• ‘No Military Solutions’ to Israel–Iran Crisis – Egypt (RT)

    Interesting. What’s he saying? Time is done, let’s pull out and sign the penciled-in economic deal Trump got in the first 100 days?

    “• Green Agenda Is Killing Europe’s Ancestry (Constantin Von Hoffmeister)

    Pointing out that whoever is running Europe is vehemently anti-Europe. And Anti Life.

    “The first freight train from China arrived in Iran in 15 days, compared to 40 days by sea”

    Same as WWI. Same people. Germany-Turkey line, both of which were taken out by Oceana. Cuz one guy in Serbia, amirite? That’s why 20M people all died? Suffolk cared so very, very much about which king was in Dalmatia? Oh, and WWI and WWII are the same war. Everyone agrees. As the Brits called for demobilization, Germany actually believed them and started, then the Allies got the drop on them, marched to Berlin and dictated terms at gunpoint, causing the ill-fated Treaty of Versailles.

    Possibly slightly more sense if it was all MacKinder dividing Asia, and not just one loose criminal running around?

    “They’re back to lobbing missiles at each other again. Trump is not terribly happy – ‘Israel and Iran don’t know what the f— they’re doing’ he is quoted as saying.
    The Zionists haven’t spent decades working up to their regime change effort in Iran just to stop at the request of anyone in the US.”

    Right. Who gains? Apparently not the U.S., who is also pissed off. Are those “Zionists” have mansions in s–thole Tel Aviv? No way. Oh, so it’s the people in ZURICH, Paris, Hamburg? Oh I guess the EUROPEANS again, where that magic plane avoided all flyovers and landed where? With King Putz, in Balmoral? They HAVE to keep this war going, they HAVE to have a nuclear exchange.

    And remember: Ukraine is lost. News blackout on that.

    “Scott Ritter asserted promptly after the attack that Trump bombed 3 sites, 2 already bombed by Israel, and all already evacuated before the bombing, in order to save face and crow loudly, with the hopes of not really going to war with Iran (which is better than really doing it): Ritter’s Rant Ep. 9: Where’s the Beef?
    ​ President Trump just sent the most sophisticated weapons in the US arsenal to bomb three empty sites in Iran.”

    Yeah, why? Because Ritter will say Trump is incompetent liar who dinna know nuffin’. Wtf? Well MOSSAD will look at the sat pics and definitely know! That means it’s an op on YOU. The world public. He knows, they know, each knows the other knows, but neither will be able to persuade the PEOPLE now. THAT is who they are bombing. …Other than sand lizards.

    …This is too long and I seriously don’t have time for this level of input.

    #190890
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Destroy China!

    Wait……what?!?

    India?
    That’s Bigotry, right?

    From JD’s post not Hamel Vance:

      Troubled Factories: The medications came mostly from plants in India where inspectors found contaminated drugs, filthy labs and falsified records.
      FDA Secrecy: The agency did not proactively inform the public when drugs were exempted from import bans, and it did not routinely test the medications to ensure they were safe.​

    Nah, can’t be India and Indians.

    They must have misspelled China and Chinese

    #190891
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Got around to the Kunstler article, who is the exact audience of the Iran Kayfabe? Howard Kunstler. He is EXACTLY their target audience. And look: it worked.

    #190892
    zerosum
    Participant

    CNN – Sow doubt that underground facilities were destroyed.
    The danger has not been eliminated.
    Keep the reason for attacking Iran alive.
    Keep the war going. Keep Israel armed.

    #190893
    zerosum
    Participant

    Opinion to think about
    They don’t have to rabbit hole the gases and pressure wave will find their way down.

    Understanding how the powerplant for this uranium enrichment facility was designed and operated is the key to how it was attacked. They needed to generate alot of power to operate the centrifuges. Solar, wind and hydro
    are out. As is nuclear and coal, not enough water. An underground transmission line would have been detected and cut long ago. Industrial gas turbine power generating sets are the only feasible option; and they’re like operating a quardron of jet fighters underground. What would be obvious from the power generation would be the thermal plumes of the ventilation exhaust.

    Even if as you say they are located away from the facility they can be traced back to where the ventilation shaft goes vertically down to the bunker. The shafts will be near the surface if they run horizontal because of maintenance. Both the supplies and exhaust will be powered with fans.

    It’s the smart way to attack this underground facility, use the access points the Iranian provided for you. If this was the approach it could have been done with fewer moabs.

    Posted by: Jerr | Jun 25 2025 0:26 utc | 571

    #190894
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Two US destroyers said to be spotted close to Isr. for air defense yesterday.

    Just yesterday, June 23rd, satellite imagery caught a striking scene off Haifa.

    Two #USN Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers poised for air defense, while closer in, two [Isr.] Sa’ar corvettes & a patrol boat stood guard.

    https://xcancel.com/MT_Anderson/status/1937681824773222457

    #190895
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    Obliterated

    #190896
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    About a week old now, written by a former member of the “cult”, as she describes it.

    What’s Going On Inside Israel Right Now?
    Ongoing impressions from the Israeli media
    Avigail Abarbane

    Since that 1991 Iraqi scud attack, Israel has introduced building regulations to install something they call ‘protective spaces’. I didn’t know what they were and then discovered they’re basically concrete boxes that are fitted into flats and buildings for people to hide in. In places constructed before ‘protective spaces’ regulations were introduced, people could buy ready made ones and install them in their flat, if there is room and if they could afford them. There are certified and non-certified versions of these boxes; the non-certified obviously are cheaper and poorer quality. In the Tel Aviv satellite town of Petach Tikvah a missile hit one of those ‘protective spaces’ directly in a flat on the fourth floor of an apartment building killing the couple sheltering inside. In another attack in the same town, a missile exploded between two of those boxes killing everyone. The psychology behind these things is more important than their physical function. A civilian population that feels powerless to protect itself is dangerous. Powerlessness generates rage which can translate to anti-government riots. Back in 1991, when concerns were raised that Saddam Hussain might use chemical warheads, the Israeli government distributed gas masks to every citizen. Those of us who had training in chemical warfare could see immediately that those masks would be useless against nerve gas, which enters the body through exposed skin. Gas masks can only protect against gas that enters through the respiratory system. In other words, it was completely nonsensical. If Saddam Hussain actually used chemical warheads, countless would have died while wearing gas masks. I never bothered putting mine on…. But people needed to feel that they could do something to protect themselves. Something tells me that those boxes, which look increasingly like death traps are intended to fulfil the same function.


    What’s Going On Inside Israel Right Now?

    #190897
    Doc Robinson
    Participant
    #190898
    zerosum
    Participant

    My argument is the bomb does not have to go down the shafts. The explosion of the bomb over/near a shafts directly connected to the underground facility is sufficient for destruction. The shafts will act like a barrels of a flamethrower directing the blast like a flame into the underground facility itself. Thus. the bomb itself does not have to penetrative to the full depth of the chamber.

    Posted by: Jerr | Jun 25 2025 2:36 utc | 634

    #190899
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    D summary:

      “Ritter Ritter former Marine pedo blah blah blah furthermore bloviate.”

      (((Pause for dramatic effect)))

      “This is too long and I seriously don’t have time for this level of input.”

      (((Exit stage left microphone drop))))

    No way
    Yes!!!
    Total victorious…..

    #190900

    I appreciated this interview with Mike Benz. It’s really long (3 plus hours!) but it’s worth it.
    Before we kill the blob, we better understand what it does.

    #190901
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Impeachment Vote failed almost directly along logical fallacy lines, ad hominem style .

    Damn.
    It.
    I meant almost directly not along party lines and Sundance dips ever more deeply into Ds pool of….Madness, you know, the Hervey Cleckley’s Mask of Sanity variety.

    Sounds like Carte Blanche Time even in The Time of Illegal Aggressive War Time harkening back to August 1990 and March 2003.

    Anyhow, Sundance TCTH further debases herself in line with Ds regular and usual performative art pulls out “Caveman.” You know why? Coz it works. That’s the why the Shame of Ritter continues to resonate on these pages. It’s all A Thing

    Sundance:

    Title: Even A Caveman Can’t Do It – Impeachment Vote Fails as Democrats Join with Republicans

      Representative Al Green’s effort to impeach President Trump over the nuclear strikes in Iran failed miserably.  Even the majority of Democrats would not go along with it.  Caveman big sad.

      Most House Democrats joined with Republicans on Tuesday to quash an effort to impeach President Donald Trump over his weekend Iran strikes.

      Rep. Al Green’s impeachment resolution was tabled on a 344-79 vote, with 128 Democrats joining all 216 Republicans to kill the measure.

      Ad hominem is a logical fallacy that occurs when someone attacks the person instead of attacking his or her argument. It is sometimes called name calling or the personal attack fallacy. This fallacy can occur when someone rejects or undermines an argument by attacking the character, credentials, or other personal traits of the person presenting it, instead of addressing the issue at hand. 

    Where arguements and ideas fail….

    #190902
    WES
    Participant

    Lying Israeli Zionists:

    Zionists leaders obviously think little about lying to their own Jewish people, like they do to everybody else.
    Right now Jews can’t easily leave Israel.
    They are trapped inside a concentration camp!
    Once they are able to leave, it will be interesting to see just how many decide to leave.
    This may hurt Israel more deeply than an all of the Iranian missiles.

    #190925
    Noirette
    Participant

    Thierry Meyssan, in line w. my prev. post. Just one aspect of course.

    The confrontation between Israel and Iran does not at all correspond to the image presented by the media. Its roots lie in a period before the Islamic Republic and has no connection with the construction of a nuclear bomb. Its outbreak today is intended to conceal the misdeeds of the Argentinian Rafael Grossi, director of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

    (…)

    Iran was the victim, in 1917-1919, of the largest genocide of the First World War. 6 to 8 million people died of starvation out of a population of 18 to 20 million, or between a quarter and a third of Iranians. Iran, although neutral, was crushed by the British armies, against a backdrop of rivalry with the Bolsheviks and the Ottomans. This horror has left a traumatic memory that is still very present in Iran. There is no doubt for an Iranian that the United Kingdom is his country’s primary enemy.

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article222523.htm
    —————
    The pretext of **Iran Nuclear enrichment > Nukes** was, is, ridiculous, as we all know. The narrative is window-dressing the ‘public’, TV watchers, etc. However it affords the Creators of this BS a sort of Comfort Zone where they can adhere, believe in, their group-thing, uphold it, etc., and act in function of it…

    #190930
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks Noirette.

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