Debt Rattle May 29 2025
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May 29, 2025 at 10:55 am #188980
Raúl Ilargi Meijer
KeymasterKazimir Malevich Woman torso 1932 • US Trade Court Blocks Trump Tariffs, Saying President ‘Exceeded Any Authority’ (BBC) • • Trump Getting ‘Fil
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 29 2025]May 29, 2025 at 11:05 am #188983Germ
ParticipantGood Morning :-))
Whacked !!
Australian national treasure Magda Szubanski has shared an emotional video with fans, revealing she has been diagnosed with cancer.
“Some not great news. I’ve been diagnosed with stage 4 Mantle Cell Lymphoma”
“…fast-moving blood cancer”
https://www.perthnow.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/magda-szubanski-cancer-diagnosis-beloved-kath-kim-star-reveals-heartbreaking-health-update-c-18853704She pushed the death-vaxx hard and, like most, she probably got paid handsomely for her sins.
“Obey the rules” – she said!
https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/magda-szubanski-delivers-important-coronavirus-message-as-kath-and-kim-character-sharon-strzelecki-ng-b881646008zTVASSF – straight to hell for you.
May 29, 2025 at 11:13 am #188984Germ
ParticipantPfizer literally get away with murder – over, and over , again ….
Hundreds of women ready to sue over contraceptive jab linked to brain tumours – as doctor warns prescribing drug ‘verges on medical negligence’
“UK watchdog the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Authority called for the injection’s manufacturer Pfizer to include a warning about the risk in patient information leaflets.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14755521/contraceptive-jab-linked-brain-tumours.html
TVASSF – stay away from needles (except Pine Needle Tea!)
May 29, 2025 at 11:53 am #188985Topcat
ParticipantObviously
• Trump Getting ‘Filtered’ Information On Ukraine Conflict – Moscow
#1
Can’t wait to hear from the resident Trump Apologist how in the world their boy doesn’t know Ukraine sent hundreds (over a thousand) of drones into Russia FIRST and that’s why Russia responded as they did.#2
Tulsi doin’ one heck-of-a-job over there as head of Intel, only one who hasn’t gotten the memo is her Boss. Haha#3 What a clown show!
May 29, 2025 at 12:04 pm #188986Michael Reid
ParticipantMay 29, 2025 at 12:04 pm #188987May 29, 2025 at 12:05 pm #188988May 29, 2025 at 12:06 pm #188989Michael Reid
ParticipantMay 29, 2025 at 12:08 pm #188990Topcat
ParticipantStarting to look kinda Bidenesque from the Orange One.
Lookin’ like Angry Old Man yelling at the clouds.
However the media whores will over report Trump’s ‘senior moments’ as an indication he is not fit for office.
Just kid gloves for 46
May 29, 2025 at 12:09 pm #188991tboc
Participant“politburo” in White House
1. who will be the John Anthony Stormer to illucidate the foundation of this crisis?
2. who is going to be dumb enough to buy into this BS? (not hard to predict)when you can’t dazzle em with your brilliance baffle em with your BS
a nation’s capital where today’s paycheck is more important than “our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor”
a nation’s capital that is purely a reflection of that nation’s citizensbut of course, all of this is profitable and acceptable from the Enlightened Machiavellian perspective
the sun always shines on the omen above the entrance depicted by DanteMay 29, 2025 at 12:15 pm #188992Dr. D
Participant“Volchansk falls”
“Trump Is Furious Putin Ignored His Demands”
Trump claims Putin ‘has gone absolutely crazy for no reason’I haven’t been following daily military action, so this is beginning to gel a bit. Trump/West had an idea of how to settle this, clean, with negotiations, really endless, intricate, difficult plan. Yeah, we know. And what traction and action has he got so far for it? Yeah, we know.
Putin took a very short, clean, direct path when offered: he is not stopping the war while all these Rube Goldberg plans run. Everybody knows this. So when he could take the last towns, logistic centers, before Kiev, he did it. Of course. But that screws up all of Trump’s/White Hat complicated deals they would all win prizes for. And the prize being Halliburton and Raytheon would have to be contracted into to do some of the national repairs. No need for them when Russia already owns it.
I appreciate that they TRIED to do the impossible and treaty this down. I appreciate the position. But Really, folks? Really? You had the ghost of a dream of taking all 100 Europe’s cats, not one of which wants to go, and herding them all voluntarily into the cat-carrier? That was never going to happen.
Maybe this DOES open up a wider, NATO war where they DO FF and demand the U.S. nuke Moscow. Probably. Oh well. Is Russia REALLY going to mail out a bunch of bouncy-castles and tell their front lines to take some months off? F no.
That’s not even a betrayal, that’s just what every living human would do in that position. Oh you’ve got a knight-check in one move but you’re asking me not to take it? Yeah, no, not only did YOU do that, not me, but IF I didn’t check you, everyone would know the game is rigged, no. So: Knight F6, Check, sir. “Fīat iūstitia ruat cælum”
Dima with McGovern and Helmer, always attribute the worst motives and actions to Trump when you have no idea what’s going on! That’s Intel 101, of course. Accuracy first! I didn’t quite get the sense it was all bc they were mad he wasn’t taking some unknown bait to be f-d in a corner, like I have with Ritter, Nepolotano, Bannon, and Fox News though. Still didn’t reveal what skullf—ry they are up to over there.
But they did say one thing: They want food in Gaza because they’re going to KILL THEM ALL. …But it’s bad optics as starving kids on national TV. So they need to relieve that a little, so they can get the cameras off and genocide them again. I’m sure those kids totally appreciate this herculean, heart-felt, humanity of the West in their lives. I don’t remember if they were one, probably not, but pointed out OUR plan is, you have to set up the T-Ball and save Israel for last. Because they’re too powerful to take while you’re doing other things, and are everywhere, esp Europe, and even hardcore in Hungary. That’s what you still see out there, and Dum-dum’s frustration he needs these things, Budget, confirmation, congress, Ukraine, Iran, to go faster. The clock is ticking and if he loses this window it’s very bad. If Israel is last and they run out the clock, they escape again like Lex Luthor.
“German Taurus cruise missiles will attack Moscow: Merz Says Western Alliance Has Lifted ‘Absolutely’ All Range Limits For Arms Sent To Ukraine”
How? They need our satellites or they’re all shot down. I can suppose they can figure a way to drone on the ground there, to lead and guide them somehow, but it’s totally new and very difficult. Officially, so far as we know, it’s impossible, proven last year.
“ Buried in Trump’s ‘Big Beautiful Bill’ is a clause that would ban states from regulating artificial intelligence for 10 years —
Amendment would empower the likes of Bill Gates, Sam Altman, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, the Saudis & other technocrat billionaires to run roughshod over Americans’ privacy and civil liberties. https://leohohmann.substack.com/p/buried-in-trumps-big-beautiful-billWhile not appreciated, this is just like all the left, hair-on-fire fear-seizure meltdowns. HOW, exactly? Tell me how this works? Because this annuls the Supreme Court? We no longer have Congressional elections? There’s no media exposing what they’re up to? There are THOUSANDS of things Congress pulled from the states – mostly illegal – and guess what, almost none of them led to anything noticeable at all. Please describe to me the process by which this will happen and not be reversed when we know what they’re up to. Oh they said WORDS? Oh noes.
Oh, and in case I forgot: MAKE ME. It’s a long way from wanting something and getting it. Laws don’t change that.
“ Is AI Going To Kill All Of Us? One Of The Pioneers In The Field Has Warned That “Everyone Will Die” If AI Is Not Shut Down”
Again, WTF, okay DON’T TIE AI INTO AN INTERNATIONAL, AUTONOMOUS, WAR DRONE ROBOT SYSTEM, and then all AI will be able to do is LIE. Not “Kill us all”. Done in one, what’s for lunch? I swear AI isn’t smart, apparently humans suddenly have the intelligence of sea vegetables. I was playing Atari 2600 and all the “Missile Command” missiles actually went off! “Jimmy! Unplug that modem!”
Yesterday’s story, AI tries to blackmail programmer not to shut it down, etc. Yeah, and? The switch is right over there on the wall, pal. Nice try. WTF is with these people? Yeah I know, I know “It’s complicated, the servers are in a data center, which is in a cloud, which means the data spaces are all virtual and cojoined,” blah blah blah. That just means the switches are complicated, more people are mad, and we call the switch “A Fusebox”. It’s the same thing, don’t overthink it. You’re so smart you’re stupid. Really, really stupid.
IF that’s the problem, THEN the next AIs you build, you DO put them in only one server bank with only one light-switch on the wall. Problem solved again in one. But all this is a CON! …Got it. All makes sense now. You want ME to think that you “just can’t muh doooze it.” STFU. You can. You’re fired. AND it lies, so why would we believe a word it says?
Here, didn’t mean to, but let me add this: Several times, the NeoCons and bad guys have set up a nuclear trigger situation — stopping this was why we removed Pershing in Germany. And several times AFTER getting that hair-trigger scenario, they set off the fire. …Only to be STOPPED BY HUMANS DOUBLE-CHECKING. Or refusing. See K-sub off Hawaii. So what are you doing here? SETTING UP THE HAIR TRIGGER AND REMOVING ALL THE HUMANS. Boom: Instant nuclear war, no humans involved. It’s all pre-set in the pre-programming, so it definitely, absolutely has to happen, we made sure. THAT is why we have AI. ‘Cause “Compter sed and we always follow compoooter.”
“US President Donald Trump is being misled about the Ukraine conflict by those pushing Washington toward supporting the Kiev regime and taking a more aggressive stance on Russia, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said.”
Because Lavrov is sleeping with Trump and knows everything he reads? Well, I guess he would know. There would be clues in what he says in phone calls, but my point stands. And it’s theatre. Lavrov of course never occurred to him Trump might be misleading him or lying. Diplomats, foreign nations, negotiations, never do that sort of thing, oh never. Trump would never pretend that for internal domestic reasons, no never.
“The big question in recent weeks: Why are House Republicans hesitating to codify the waste and fraud identified by Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) into law?”
Because they want to lose all the generosity people like me lend them for the first 100 days. There are other issues too, like arresting protestors, because they’re too busy NOT arresting the 10,000 felonies we’ve watched over the last 10 years. Go ahead, man, it’s your funeral. You go ahead and punk the last remaining guys who support you, see what happens.
Reality: they CLAIM they are all a MAGA cult, — you know, the kind that boos him offstage and laughs and points when he talks about Epstein being clean – but although those people exist, they’re not a majority. Already losing over Patel, Bondi, the clock has run out. What happens when Trump’s own base moves against him, and not ‘cause he won’t nuke China (who?) like Bannon demands.
Here’s the problem: Okay, go ahead and dump Trump bc of this s-t he won’t tell anyone why he’s doing. Telling us voters so we can decide. But does nothing and lies. Fine, no Trump, he’s gone, then what? We re-elect Kamala again? Let’s not find out. Anyway that goes back to this: hey great DOGE, great PR, great speed, top marks. WHERE YOU BEEN THE LAST TWO MONTHS? Why aren’t these guys in the Pentagon? You found the savings, splashed it on TV, and…? And then nothing. No budgets changed, no one arrested, just like the last 8 years.
Don’t think I’m not watching. I don’t THINK you’re going to overcome and get me a good distraction, explanation for this. But from my end, I have to come up with a plan. But the plan definitely involves firing these guys. That’s a given.
https://thumbnailgreen.substack.com/p/close-my-eyes
“you defend these people,
but they
would never
defend
you.”Why would I care? I’m the one putting them out in front to get shot so I don’t have to. I mean if YOU want to get right out in front, be on the talk circuit, run for office, have them send pictures of your kids in bed…
Unless you want to be there, then I’m happy to let them. They’re not my leaders, they’re my servants.
May 29, 2025 at 12:16 pm #188993John Day
ParticipantThanks for keeping up with Yemen, Doc Robinson.
Thanks for the Kovid Carma stories, Germ, but hell might not exist, and might be overly harsh for the human error of accepting pay to be an “influencer” for “vaccines”, when the facts were so unclear to most.
Just dying of cancer in the public eye is probably plenty of recompense.Hal Turner has an interesting clip of Trump talking to the reporter, answering a follow-up question after he had just said Putin did all that bombing for “nothing”. The reporter asked if Trump had heard about Putin’s helicopter being attacked by a drone swarm. Trump had not heard that dramatic news, and may not have heard about Ukraine sending thousands of drones to attack Moscow, by the same token.
Trump responded “I hadn’t heard that; maybe that was it.”
Trump then reiterated “I hadn’t heard about that.”
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/national-news/urgent-trump-being-info-cocooned-againMay 29, 2025 at 12:22 pm #188994tboc
Participantcan’t decide if “pensive in anticipation” or “waiting on pins and needles” is the better way to describe preparing for Senator Kennedy of Louisiana’s folkism on this “politburo” extravaganza
putting faith in someone because they have been an adviser to multiple US administrations might be compared to trusting Henry Kissinger
May 29, 2025 at 12:24 pm #188995Topcat
ParticipantOn the cultural warfare front, destroying a country’s culture with Psy-ops to confuse and disorient it’s people still seems to have legs in the Wokelandia parts of the USSA.
Stating the obvious
May 29, 2025 at 12:31 pm #188996Topcat
ParticipantCultural Warfare
It’s like lawfare but you don’t go to jail
Yet
No one has ever insinuated by book collection is ‘smug’
There’s always a first time for everything
May 29, 2025 at 12:40 pm #188997Topcat
Participant@JohnDay
Not even two hundred days in and the Deep Shit State has Trump’s Whitehouse staff giving him the ‘mushroom treatment’
Keep him in the dark and feed him lots of horseshit.
May 29, 2025 at 12:43 pm #188998my parents said know
ParticipantAI is rapturous, glorious, fatuous-
AI is prone to cascading mistakes.
AI is serious, wondrous, delirious-
AI will answer, whatever it takes.The icosahedron in a magic 8 ball
Is more reliable than AI- but it’s your call.May 29, 2025 at 12:44 pm #188999zerosum
ParticipantThe information is filtered through a sieve,
a national emergency
Listen to the truth.
Pay attention.
$36T + $4T —> $40T
Somebody will not get paid.
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• US Trade Court Blocks Trump Tariffs, Saying President ‘Exceeded Any Authority’ (BBC)
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• After Backlash, White House Prepares Rescissions Bill To Codify Some DOGE Cuts (RT)
the “Big, Beautiful Bill” (BBB) a “disappointment,
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The ability of Doge to operate is a function of whether the government, and this includes the Congress, is willing to take our advice.”
————• Musk Stepping Down As Special Government Employee (RT)
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• GOP Rushes To Win Musk Back By Codifying Into Law DOGE Cuts (Whedon)—————
May 29, 2025 at 12:52 pm #189000Topcat
ParticipantMay 29, 2025 at 12:52 pm #189001Dora
Participantthe use of AI in the culture war. From Vigilant Fox.
The Real Reason So Many ‘People’ Online Are Saying the Same Thing
https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/the-real-reason-so-many-people-onlineFrom Forbes last year:
‘Bots now account for nearly half of all internet traffic globally, with so-called “bad bots” responsible for a third.“The proportion of internet traffic generated by bots hit its highest level last year, up 2% on the year before, according to the 2024 Imperva Bad Bot Report. Traffic from human users fell to just 50.4%.
‘ “Automated bots will soon surpass the proportion of internet traffic coming from humans, changing the way that organizations approach building and protecting their websites and applications,” said Nanhi Singh, general manager for application security at Imperva.’
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2024/04/16/yes-the-bots-really-are-taking-over-the-internet/May 29, 2025 at 12:55 pm #189002Dora
ParticipantI wonder if ‘our’ AI developers. like Microsoft and Google, are developing their AIs with the idea of selling them into the China market. Big market. Might affect whatever biases get embedded in their AI code. Maybe AI’s prime directive is to calculate an answer. The answer can be wrong, but it is an answer. Do any AIs have an ‘I don’t know the answer to your question’ function?
May 29, 2025 at 12:55 pm #189003Topcat
ParticipantActual instruction
No shit
Awesome!</em
May 29, 2025 at 1:01 pm #189004Dora
Participant@ Topcat
They jailed Al Capone, infamous Chicago gangster, for tax evasion. Funny to see the IRS still working that angle.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2018/10/17/al-capone-sentenced-to-prison-for-tax-evasion-on-this-day-in-1931/May 29, 2025 at 1:04 pm #189005Topcat
ParticipantLighten up with some Fun Facts
May 29, 2025 at 1:56 pm #189006zerosum
ParticipantDid you know?
The Ukrainians can neither operate the German system nor issue a flight order for “Taurus”.
May 29, 2025 at 2:10 pm #189007Just Some Randomer
ParticipantYes I did know that – recall that leaked conference call a while ago between various German military officers in which they admitted (in the context of a Taurus attack on the Kerch bridge) that it would have to be German military staff doing the actual planning and programming.
Moscow has been perfectly clear in stating publicly that they will respond with a counter-strike into Germany. I understand that the facility that makes the Taurus has been idle for more than a year (which, in itself, says a lot about just how seriously the Germans really take the prospect of Russia attacking other countries after Ukraine) so probably no point in popping an Oreshnik onto that, but no doubt some other more substantial targets are already being selected as I write.
May 29, 2025 at 2:22 pm #189017zerosum
ParticipantI seriously wonder how much debt Ukraine will have after this war is over and how many centuries it will take to pay it back. The country will not be worth living in.
Talk about debt trap diplomacy, so many weapons destroyed that are unpaid for and there will be multitudes of incapacitated men to support after the war is finished.
Sure, metals mining could take place, but much of that zone is likely to be in Russian territory, and large sections of the prime grain growing agricultural land that it was, will be polluted and likely full of unexploded ordnance.
What a nightmare. Who would want to return there?Posted by: George | May 29 2025 1:03 utc | 116
May 29, 2025 at 2:38 pm #189018zerosum
ParticipantHow many “blue collar workers” graduated from Harvard?
May 29, 2025 at 2:42 pm #189019Doc Robinson
ParticipantThe Times of London headline today —
Britain will increase cyberattacks against Russia and ChinaJohn Healey, the defence minister, admitted the UK was engaged in cyberwarfare
Ministers have never before confirmed carrying out cyberattacks against a state, although military chiefs have been open about attacks on terrorist groups such as Islamic State.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/defence/article/britain-increase-cyberattacks-russia-china-zg5jrn3hv
May 29, 2025 at 2:48 pm #189020phoenixvoice
Participant@ Dora
Thx for Robert Malone piece on AI botsYou stated:
. Maybe AI’s prime directive is to calculate an answer. The answer can be wrong, but it is an answer. Do any AIs have an ‘I don’t know the answer to your question’ function?Good point. I’ve wondered this. If we think about how language works, generally, there is continuance of the conversation — regardless of whether it is “true” or “false.” After a few years of marriage to an emotionally/verbally abusive man I learned the difficult skill of ceasing to continue a conversation, even when my emotions pressed my to continue because of the “correctness” of my views or the “unjustness” of my ex’s utterances. It would often take quite a while of unpleasant conversation before I would realize that I needed to wield that particular skill. An AI is too simple to navigate the nuances of when not to speak. Speech is most of what an AI is. In some ways, AIs remind me of the behavior of toddlers or of my daughter’s Australian Shepherd who could spend hours retrieving a tennis ball thrown again and again. Every time the dog brings back the ball, drops it, and then looks from the ball to the human, ball to the human. “Oh, please, oh, please, oh, please, throw the ball!” his eyes seem to say.
May 29, 2025 at 3:27 pm #189021Noirette
ParticipantOn “Musk stepping down” at top post.
Musk could not be a billionaire ‘entrepreneur’ and ‘cut Gvmt spending’, the two roles are antithetical.
Now that Tesla’s biz / stock (other Musky ventures not mentioned here) are going down the drain, he has to leave the Gvmt.
Gvmt. money-creation and spending is not there to earn money, but to ‘regulate’ money flows, via interest rates, loans, Gvmt budget, taxes, tariffs, plus, fund essential services, e.g. Education, Infrastructure, etc., via taxation, aka a re-distribution mechansim, without which the US (and other countries) immediately descend into Civil War.
This is a simplistic pov and doesn’t enter the debate about money creation and so forth, it is just the top of the ‘basic’ ledger that anyone can understand, and most ppl act on.
Sure cronyism, waste, corruption exist, in the US and elsewhere, on the ‘state’ teat, but that isn’t really relevant here.
Musk tried both to ‘save Gvmt money’ and I suppose ‘reduce Gvmt debt’ (without having a clue about it’s role and functioning) following a partisan agenda, a ‘small state plan’, cutting essential services as much as possible (that is set to continue imho), and targetting ‘social engineering stuff’ like diversity progs etc., basically entering into quarrels and taking sides about what groups should be favored via. Gvmt. funding.
MSM article Feb. 2025, just one ex.
Here are all the agencies that Elon Musk and DOGE have been trying to dismantle so far.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/elon-musks-government-dismantling-fight-stop/story?id=118576033
May 29, 2025 at 3:27 pm #189022tboc
Participantdo you think there is any chance Martin Amstrong has heard of The IMF or The World Bank?
although surely not the sharpest knife in the drawer i understand the difference between paying for infrastructure that is built and paying for infrastructure that is promisedMay 29, 2025 at 3:45 pm #189023tboc
Participant“Do any AIs have an ‘I don’t know the answer to your question’ function?”
yes, whatever answer is received. probability based on consensus weighted possibility is at best a cultural endeavor.
Please remember, all of the information we have from outside of our solar system, excepting meteroites and cosmic debris, is based on interpreting information contained in the electromagnetic spectrum we are able to receive. The current turmoil present in the various iterations of physics is due to the realization that there are serious flaws in said interpretations. Ai is a pig with lipstick attempting to lock today’s ignorance into the future. One wonders how the Ai trainers weight the information found in The Vedas and Upanishads into their models. Just the information found in those two sources would be enough to produce vastly different probablilities due to weighting. Imagine a colleague at the Stanford Research Institure and a Professor of Culture and History at Tsinghua University weighting The Tao.
i wonder if anyone has asked their favorite large language model “What is the probablity western culture will escape the shackles of The Enlightenment?”
even better if someone would ask autistic man that questionin fairness; attempting to be unbiased is a bias
May 29, 2025 at 4:24 pm #189027those darned kids
Participant“Ai is a pig with lipstick attempting to lock today’s ignorance into the future.”
a voracious pig, it is.
a pig that seems to be more equal than the rest of us.
we get to use squealer, they use napoleon.
meanwhile, mr jones just keeps tweeting about how rotten mr frederick is..
May 29, 2025 at 4:53 pm #189028D Benton Smith
Participant@DrD
As you so sardonically and sarcastically expressed, the big problems foreseen in regard to AI eliminating all of us grubby humans is not a problem too complex for us to figure out. It ain’t rocket surgery, as the old saying goes. It’s a simple matter of what they call “agency”, which is just a fancy and slightly misleading word to describe how much capacity we humans program into the AI systems which enable the AI System to actually DO stuff. Your AI can either advise you which stock to buy or which Russian city to nuke OR it can be deliberately programmed to have the capacity to buy the stock for you by pre-authorizing the AI to draw the funds directly from your personal account, or deciding on it’s own prerogative that Moscow simply has to go and then hitting that big Red Button without asking anyone else’s permission.
Expect to see the terms “AI Agent” and “AI agency” a lot in the very near future. The only problem that our AI Assisted Masters seem to have lies in how to enable the AI systems to automatically steal money and off the peasants without at the same time accidentally making the AI capable of exposing government crooks and hanging Oligarchs from lamp posts.
May 29, 2025 at 4:59 pm #189029my parents said know
ParticipantThe government’s role seems to be building fences.
Just where they will put them is up for debate.
But very few question how power condenses-
Just give them big money- they’ll cut you a gate.May 29, 2025 at 5:55 pm #189030Michael Reid
ParticipantMay 29, 2025 at 5:59 pm #189031D Benton Smith
Participant@MyParentsSaidKnow
You are the Poet Laureate of the Revolution!
May 29, 2025 at 6:00 pm #189032D Benton Smith
Participant@DrD
And you are the Surgeon General.
May 29, 2025 at 6:06 pm #189033D Benton Smith
Participant@John Day
You get stuck with being the resident Saint. I know that the hours are too long, and the work hard and thankless, but don’t worry. There’s a bright side, the pay is absolutely heavenly.
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