Debt Rattle November 29 2025
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December 12, 2025 at 11:34 pm #221471
zerosum
ParticipantThe idea of Russian asset seizure originated with Canada’s Bandera B**** Chrystia Freeland after a successful ‘seizure’ of nearly $50b in Canadians’ ‘assets’ for Ukraine.
Freeland Says It’s ‘Entirely Appropriate’ To Use Seized Russian Assets To Rebuild Ukraine (2022)
“Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland said Ukraine needs financial support to rebuild in light of the war – and Russia should foot the bill.
Freeland said the Canadian government is currently creating a legal framework for the seizure of Russian assets, and suggested those assets could then be sold to finance the rebuilding of Ukraine.
In creating asset seizure legislation, ‘Canada has an opportunity to lead by example and show what can be done,’ Freeland said…”
If You’re Ukrainian, Ottawa Has Billions (& vid)
https://x.com/wealthmoose/status/1995518745289343417
“If you’re Ukrainian, Ottawa has billions. If you’re a Canadian? You get a food-bank lineup, a hallway bed and a 9-month surgical wait. Tell me again how this isnt a government that forgot who it serves.”
They didn’t forget. And all the other Canadian political parties would/will do the same. (Hence Yves Engler for ndp leader being blocked by the No Difference Party itself.)
Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 12 2025 19:51 utc | 112
December 12, 2025 at 11:41 pm #221472Celticbiker
ParticipantTboc, I appreciate your honesty. The problem is the good jews will follow the bad jews into Hell on Earth. The whole world a Palestine. Face this fact or deal with the consequences, which are coming.
December 13, 2025 at 12:39 am #221487Michael Reid
ParticipantDecember 13, 2025 at 2:25 am #221510those darned kids
Participantceltic, ol’ buddy, you seem even more frustrated than even i.
this is for you!
December 13, 2025 at 4:19 am #221542Michael Reid
ParticipantHe is not the only one who is frustrated.
The USA needs to be smacked back to its own country by Russia.
The USA is no longer global boss and not even boss anywhere.
The USA is a criminal bully country. Time for Russia to assert itself and restore law and decency with its Burevestnik to expel the US navy from its pirate ships.
This video explains clearly how USA is no longer boss if only Russia would act .
What Russia’s Burevestnik Missile Means for GeopoliticsDecember 13, 2025 at 10:27 am #221633Dr. D
Participant“The USA needs to be smacked back to its own country by Russia.”
Why?
“The USA is no longer global boss and not even boss anywhere.”
Why?
“The USA is a criminal bully country. “
Why?
“USA is no longer boss if only Russia would act .”Why? These are all based on assumptions. The U.S. doesn’t’ WANT to be global boss. If never have (Had to dragged into every war WWI and II) then certainly had no desire since 1968. So that leaves only 1949-1968 we ever even might have wanted that.
The top has been doing that over the will of the people the whole time.
Since 1990- etc, the inside Generals realized they had hollowed out the United States in Empire Policing in a gambit to collapse us. We were not “Influenced” we were being cold puppeted by Globalists, who were no longer arguably in the U.S. if they ever were (OSS/CIA) but largely European (NATO/UN) This is well covered everywhere, all the time. They then wanted to draw back to the U.S. to reform, reindustrialize, and re-arm as a sovereign, independent nation with a Constitution in the American Way. They were almost entirely taken out by Clinton, in purges, then the 1-2 punch of Bush, in the Patriot Act. Obama completed purging any remaining middle ranks.
But the point here is, you’re saying 1, 2, 3, 4: RUSSIA needs to end our empire, take us out, move us back to our borders. We’ve been trying to do that from the People since 1968, but even the Generals, upper planners have been dissenting and attempting to do that since 1994. Why would RUSSIA need to do what we were already trying to do anyway? Wow, you win, I guess! You made us do what we wanted and were trying to do all along. We surrender.
So the real battle has transformed into Globalists who are puppeting the U.S., with increasing intensity and tyranny, to control their ever-smaller but ever more powerful handful of power nexus points. We are all aware they run the CIA, certain top-level CEOs like Blackrock, Citi, etc. and several others. But ask the 95% of America, from the ground even to hundreds of CEOs and they’d be, and are, and always have been, firmly and actively, diabolically against them, these few Globalist tyrants. So since 2001 we were on our last back foot, but at least the balloon went up that what we were against was real and there was no more time to delay action.
Since then, they have been revealed as the cockroaches and maniacs they are, and slowly Americans picked a side from within hundreds of systems, but let’s say government is one of them. As they’ve done that, they’ve re-learned what we’re all really fighting for. And also what we’re fighting against.
While ultimately the battle never changed that much, government employees we’d say are cold evil actually believed in America and law all along, just THOUGHT they were doing the right, legal, pro-American, thing – because they like to be deceived on any premise that keeps their paycheck – now have highlighted to them that wasn’t true, and the 1990 Generals who were trying to Un-Empire were correct. You can see this illustrated in any Clancy movie, book, and the hundreds like them. So let’s say it was 45-55% and now it’s 55-45% as No Empire.(in the loose sense). Yet their Bosses say do this or you’re fired. They are still average humans and mostly do orders, don’t whistleblow, and are not fired. But overall, we have gradually turned the enormous, planet-sized battleship away FROM Empire, to ENDING Empire, and are able to take the many, many structural levels of dismantling you see today. And perhaps that’s preferable. Dropping it would leave a power vacuum here and worldwide bad guys would just immediately laugh and fill with chaos.
As those things stop being posture and emphasis, and begin to reach actual visible policy, “They” go nuts over them. We’re talking about ending NATO. Completely. Cutting 100 year financial lines. Completely. Refusing to be involved in wars “Pals” like HSBC would demand we get into. Completely. Those aren’t accomplished yet, but like the Paris Climate Accord and WHO, us not doing them is a sea change, and those don’t arise and don’t end in one day. HUMANS, YOU, as a single person, can decide in one day. You have one mind to make up and inform. Institutions do not. They have many minds, many communications, and take years, decades even. So it can’t end they way you demand they end it: “We just wake up one day and it’s over.” When has that ever happened?
And if it did, you’d blow a fuse and go shoot Trump for doing it. Why? IF things COULD happen like that, that’s de facto evidence that he can only be a dictator, and America really IS just one man, a King. The fact that CAN’T happen is what demonstrates he’s not the King. He has to convince, pressure, cajole, compromise, contract, all these other bodies – Congress, the Pentagon, the NSA – as well as GM, JPM, Lockheed, Exxon, to join along. Some of whom are bland, all of which are paid and very expensive to alter course, but some of which are mortally against him.
So here every day we’re ending Empire, very VERY publicly and visibly at last, and we KNOW they are doing it and not just noise as everyone’s going NUTS about it. Europe, NATO, The Guardian, the WEF, CNN, the CIA. If it weren’t real action, they wouldn’t bother.
But you say we’re doing, have done nothing, and Russia should nuke us when after 50 years we’re finally on the eve of giving up an Empire the American people never wanted in the first place and voted against all along. I mean if Presidents were already radically against this back to EISENHOWER, then what President was for it? The PEOPLE voted in Clinton, Bush, Obama because they said they were ANTIWar, ANTI Empire.
But then although we did our part at that level, really it’s our fault. Voting against = voting For, and we should all be nuked ackshully. No.
And what I’m saying is no surprise. Russia knows because Russia fought and expelled the same people with the same plans. We know that from their actions over the last year, or many years that they see the U.S. as an occupied nation that is really at war with its own puppeting oligarchs, just as Russia was. 1990-2005, but maybe as far back as 1918, then where Stalin was viciously fighting this cadre in his own ranks, as well as from outside the wall with later Soviets.
We are no different, so nuking America is nuking their ALLY, the one ALSO fighting these crooks, and possibly the only one, since Europe sure doesn’t seem to be taking many shots at them, and China does nothing, just sits in herself. There is ONLY us as allies to Anti-Empire, ironic as that may seem.
No. I prefer NOT to murder 300 million people and recommend NOT shooting every ally. That seems strategically counterproductive. Especially when you only need to unseat maybe 1,000 individuals you can easily name. We know they are being unseated because they’re every loud voice you see, doing every action on heaven and earth to stop Trump.
I guess that’s how you know they’re all on the same team: because they’re fighting each other in the biggest possible way, by every means, legal and illegal, hidden and seen, public and private, such that this will go in the History books for ages, bigger than anything since the War of the Roses. That’s how you know they’re all the same and nothing’s happening.
December 13, 2025 at 11:48 am #221656aspnaz
ParticipantDr D said
Especially when you only need to unseat maybe 1,000 individuals you can easily name.
Yeah, had a bit of time on my hands this evening, so read a little bit of Dr Death’s bullshit, and my oh my, his bullshit matured, gotten more gassy and definitely more smelly.
Who would have know that the whole of the USA was being held hostage by about 1000 individuals, people we know!!! They must all be billionaires as over 1 trillion USD went missing in the Pentagon, and as these boys are in control, you have to assume that was 1 billion each. Nobody else got a penny. Party time.
Celtic, we all know Dr Death is working for the Gaza squad, so don’t expect much from him, but a little disappointed (very little) that the likes of tboc and tdk seem to believe that the Jews in America are somehow different to the Jews in Israel, the IDF Jews murdering Palestinian children. Why would they be any different given that so many US jews are dual citizens? Well, the answer is simple, they are not, they are the same.
Queue Benton the Jew to point to the one exception on either side and claim that proves that not all jews are evil; yeah, doesn’t work, when cancer kills 99% of the people it attacks, the remaining 1% is not really proof that cancer is harmless; do you understand that?
A few IDF killed themselves, but that is only right given what they have done; I approve of self flagelation. Does that make the children-murdering IDF suiciders better people? Of course not, they were just too weak to stand against it when they had a chance, they went along with the murder, then were too weak to cope. Shame.
One ironic thing about Gaza is that the jews believe the goyim are animals, yet here we are with the goyim proving to be human and the jews proving themselves as animals; death of civilisation has many threads.
Looks like RIM took one to the brain, I don’t wish that sort of shit on anyone, but when you support the Gaza starvation, you gotta also expect some karma. Mind you, I don’t believe a word of it, but it is a nice story, keeps the “nice” people sedated.
December 13, 2025 at 12:58 pm #221676tboc
ParticipantCelticbiker i feel the main difference between our world view is one focusing on a particular group or culture and the other focusing on all threats to self, family and home.
My belief in self government starts with the self. The individual has a duty to reign in their passions and strive for human nobility. Only human beings who are self governing in this sense can bond themselves together to govern community and nation.
To my view human nobility demands a disciplined being. The parh of a peaceful, truthful, chaste, humble, loving servant of life itself is the path of truth, honor and justice.
One who cannot govern their passions cannot govern anything. The self governing have a duty to remove the ungovernable from their community. Honor allows no place for situational ethics.A human being is either truthful or a liar, no shades of gray.
I will tell you that following the path outlined above will certainly make a person as or more unpopular than the view you hold toward the jews.
None want a sober man at a party of the intoxicated.December 13, 2025 at 1:29 pm #221682those darned kids
Participant“tdk seem to believe that the Jews in America are somehow different to the Jews in Israel”
uh, ¿are you the same as every other “aspnaz”?
weren’t both jeffrey dahmer and mother theresa christians!?
December 13, 2025 at 1:46 pm #221685zerosum
ParticipantBig picture.
Humans are not birds flying in a patterned, synchronized way, a murmuration (for starlings) or skein (for geese/ducks).
Expect diversified /social/political/economic controls/conflicts.
Many ways. (Even at TAE)
My way or the highway is not permanent. (Being king of the hill.)
Expect waste, change conflict, and depopulations.
———–December 13, 2025 at 3:00 pm #221688Michael Reid
ParticipantRussia’s New Burevestnik Missile Explained | How Can Nuclear Reactors Power Missiles
December 13, 2025 at 3:04 pm #221689Michael Reid
ParticipantDecember 13, 2025 at 3:18 pm #221691kultsommer
ParticipantTo my view human nobility demands a disciplined being. The path of a peaceful, truthful, chaste, humble, loving servant of life itself is the path of truth, honor and justice.
An actual message of the system to that is very blunt and with the “touch of humor”:
“There is a sucker born every minute.”December 13, 2025 at 4:18 pm #221694tboc
ParticipantLook at Europe in 1450. What is different and what is the same today?
The Vatican has been replaced by The European Union
All available resources have been consumed.
There is a climate crisis, although unlike the small ice age the current one is manufactured.
The ruling class has expended itself through excess.
The Rus having the driven out the mongols is consolidated power and laying the foundation for The Russian Empire. Today the Rus is defeating the current wave of invaders and consolidating power.From here it just appears an effort at colonization 2.0 is underway.
Regardless of what Josep Borrell may think, Western Europe is inhabited by blood thirsty savages. This group of savages are under the impression that Ai is Enlightenment 2.0 and will supply the management for the wealth that is anticipated to be stolen.
I prefer Aesop’s Fables to Disneyland fairy tales.
December 13, 2025 at 4:28 pm #221696Michael Reid
ParticipantDecember 13, 2025 at 4:45 pm #221699Michael Reid
ParticipantRussia’s response to EU freeze of Russian assets will follow shortly — diplomat
Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova also noted that the European Union’s policy toward Russia has long been devoid of any sound logic and resembles a theater of the absurd
MOSCOW, December 13. /TASS/. Russia’s retaliatory measures in response to the European Union’s blocking of Russian assets will follow shortly, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said.“Brussels is carefully concealing the fact that it will be citizens of EU countries who will ultimately pay for these political ambitions. Our retaliatory actions will follow shortly,” the diplomat emphasized. “A detailed statement on this matter was published by the Bank of Russia on December 12. Specific steps are already being implemented. On the same day, Russia’s regulator announced that it had filed a lawsuit with the Moscow Arbitration Court against the Euroclear depository, seeking compensation for losses incurred by the Bank of Russia,” she added.
“At the same time, the European Union itself will no longer be able to make up for the damage that such actions will inflict both on its own financial and economic system and on its reputation worldwide as what was once a reliable trade and investment partner. Such misdemeanors in international relations do not go without consequences,” Zakharova added.
The diplomat also noted that the European Union’s policy toward Russia has long been devoid of any sound logic and resembles a theater of the absurd, while Brussels’ course of inflicting damage on Russia at any cost has already led to a dire economic situation within the EU itself.
“The European Union’s policy towards Russia has long been stripped of any rational logic and resembles a theater of the absurd. The course aimed at harming our country at any cost has already resulted in a highly deplorable economic situation within the EU itself: virtually zero economic growth, rapidly rising public debt and budget deficits, declining production, and deindustrialization amid skyrocketing energy costs,” the diplomat emphasized.
The diplomat noted that any disposal of Russia’s sovereign assets without Russia’s consent — “whether it be their indefinite freezing, seizure, or attempts to present their de facto confiscation as some kind of ‘reparations loan’ — constitutes an absolutely unlawful act that grossly violates the norms of international law.”
“No matter what pseudo-legal maneuvers Brussels may attempt to use to justify this, we are talking about outright, plain theft,” Zakharova stated.
She once again stressed that the European Union is seeking by all means to undermine efforts to settle the Ukraine conflict, which explains the rush to adopt a decision on Russian assets aimed at delivering a direct blow to the peace initiatives of US President Donald Trump.
“It is also obvious that European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and her associates have made it a key objective of their efforts to undermine, by any means, the search for peaceful ways to resolve the Ukrainian crisis. Hence the haste and the timing chosen for the decision on Russian assets — to deliver a direct blow to the peace initiatives of US President Donald Trump,” the diplomat stressed in a comment to a media inquiry regarding the EU’s freezing of Russian assets.
https://tass.com/politics/2058261December 13, 2025 at 4:45 pm #221700Just Some Randomer
ParticipantRussian ‘Bank Assets’ held in Euroclear.
There seems to be a perception that Russia has a big pile of ready cash sitting in a strong room in Brussels that can simply be loaded onto pallets and slapped on a train to Kiev. Unless I am mistaken, what Euroclear is holding on in Russia’s account are Eurobonds – i.e. Debt instruments issued by various EU countries.
Now – let’s suppose the Euroclowns are insane enough to simply go ahead and steal Russia’s bond holdings using Emergency laws, as they appear to be determined to do in the face of objections by the Belgian government, the ECB, Euroclear, the US, Japan, Saudi Arabia and other relevant parties – what then? How does transferring the title to these Bonds in any way ‘Fund’ Ukraine? It doesn’t.
The only way these stolen bonds can be used to generate actual cashflow for the Green Goblin in Kiev is if either (a) The bonds are sold or (b) The bonds are used as collateral for a loan, the proceeds of which are handed over to Z.
Who, other than maybe the 3 chihuahuas (Merz, Macron and Starmer) would be insane enough to hand over ready money to purchase these clearly stolen bonds that are the subject of ongoing litigation by Russia? Nobody.
For the same reasons, what institution anywhere is going to advance over a hundred billion euros in lending against ‘Security’ consisting of the aforementioned stolen goods? Nobody.
It’s really hard to see the endgame here as being anything other than the EU stealing the Bonds and then using them as a figleaf for an arrangement whereby they themselves hand over cash to Ukraine but pretend it’s a loan because they have the Bonds as security and therefore the new borrowing doesn’t really count.
Looks like EU taxpayers are about have another hundred billion in debt loaded onto their backs against their will. It’s nuts.
December 13, 2025 at 4:59 pm #221702Michael Reid
ParticipantDecember 13, 2025 at 5:05 pm #221703tboc
Participant“There is a sucker born every minute.”
quite appropriate for you to post that quote“Most men lead lives of quiet desperation”
Not all men.December 13, 2025 at 6:26 pm #221710kultsommer
Participant“Most men lead lives of quiet desperation”
Not all men.Absolutely true.
Despite “my quote”.
Quote that is buttressed by the system itself rather than me wallowing in it.December 13, 2025 at 6:28 pm #221711kultsommer
Participantmore like “wallowing in it”.
December 13, 2025 at 7:41 pm #221720D Benton Smith
ParticipantWord on the street is that a bunch of you guys are “real futurists”. Okay then, here’s a glimpse of the near future ahead of everybody else (well, ahead of most anyway).
Heads up, @aspnaz. Incoming!
The whole world, spanning the globe in all directions is about to arrive at the long brewing culmination of the Spiritual War of Religions, of which there are only two. Those who worship good and those who worship the bad. On one side there are Christians (to one degree of faith or another ranging from zero to a hundred per cent) and on the other side there are Satanists (who also range in degree of belief and commitment from zero to a hundred per cent). So the War is between Christianity and Satanism, with the Creator of the entire Universe as referee.
Any takers on the odds on who’s going to win?
Between the two of them they comprise all of Life, Humanity and Macro-cosmic Universe.
In other words, the world is about to become even more (it’s already out the roof) exceedingly dramatic in the outspoken and physically manifested matter of RELIGION and SPIRITUAL BELIEF. It’s already skyrocketing in that specific direction, and you ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.
Of course there will be those who disagree strongly with that pronouncement (Prediction? Opinion? Prophecy?, ?) but such naysayers to the forecast only heighten the drama and raise the decibels by screaming “Nay!” in ever more stridently desperate voices.
Just reread what I just said and understand it.
The louder and more often that the degraded damned deny the existence of God and the Devil then the more they draw the attention and engagement of by-standers to that conflict who otherwise might not ever have given much serious thought to the question about the reality of the existence of Christ as God, and the Devil.
They literally are trying to shut the Overton Window tighter and tighter closed, BY OPENING IT WIDER AND WIDER AND THEN YELLING THRU IT.
Have you ever witnessed such idiotic stupidity?
Well, that monumentally extreme stupidity is a demonstration of the “superior” intellectual prowess of those who believe themselves to be “better” or more intelligent and for that reason more deserving of valuable things than other people are, even to the extent of just taking (stealing) what other people make, without payment, thanks or permission. The mental illness has a name. It’s called “arrogance”.
Such broken people are so broken that they do NOT even understand their own misguided pride. And so, in a stroke of Divine, poetic and ironic JUSTICE it is their own arrogance that is killing them deader, and deader, as they willfully withdraw further and more adamantly from the TRUTH, which is another way of saying, from God.
Our latest reappearance of our latest “version” of the enigmatic PolyTroll, @aspnaz, provides a nearly perfect example (and cautionary tale!) of this disease.
@aspnaz believes himself to be superior to and better than everyone else on this forum. This presumed authority enable him to pronounce outrageously false assertions as though they are fact. No lie is too absurd. Saying, for example that our soft-hearted host, Ilargi deserved a life threatening stroke and permanent injury as “Karmic” retribution for supporting the genocide in Gaza. Aspie’s statement was an absurdly false100% lie from its initial capital letter to the period at the end of the sentence.Aspie believes himself to be right (by his own self-bestowed authority) and that anyone who disagrees with his bullshit lies is wrong, and therefore stupid and so undeserving of basic human rights as to be beneath contempt or the right to even live.
@aspnaz is what is called “arrogant”, and has thereby become so dead in his soul that he his not even aware that he is a soul.As an example of the prediction that I made at the start of this essay-length comment, namely that the world will become dramatically more religious and/or anti-religious, just watch how @aspnaz responds to this comment. It will be classic.
This comment lays bare aspie’s malicious stupidity and incompetence. He must respond to it, and he must respond so hatefully and contemptuously that the topic is never seen or spoken of again, by anybody. In other words, his response has to both hide the truth and at the same time shut me so that I don’t say it again or discus the subject publicly with others.
If he just lets this comment stand, without rebutting it well enough that he wins the argument, then that’s about the same as admitting (for lack of protest or refutation) that it’s all just true. Fine. I’ll settle for that. @aspnaz ‘s silence (if he chooses to do so) will be taken as admission of guilt because any effective defense would be proof that my charges of moral collapse against him were unfounded.
His problem is that what I say is simply true, and therefore he can’t make it go away or be untrue. That’s what stings him so badly, nd I’m not even finished describing him to everyone in greater detail.
Let’s just cut to the chase and lay it all out to save time and bother. I would also like to tie this all back in to the predictive statement that the world is about to become dramatically more “religiously themed”. And of course that includes the “anti-religious” stuff that gets thrown back as response to the charges of worshiping evil and voluntarily doing Satan’s bidding in exchange for wealth and power of some kind large or small.
The two “religions” (Christian and Satanist) are going to duke it out and both sides are already throwing haymaker punches. Gaza, for instance, is not a small thing. The premeditated blood-sacrifice mass murder of children for personal gain is not a small thing. It is an existentially BIG thing, and is being treated accordingly. You may have noticed some big changes in the world. They’re all closely related to today’s theme.
Now, as to @aspnaz himself personally. The reason @aspnaz sounds and behaves like half-a-dozen different personalities (Identities? Alters? Demons?) is that he IS half-a-dozen different personalities (identities, alters, etc.) and every last one of them is a demon., and don’t mean allegorically. I mean demon like-it-says-in-the-books.
Let me say it a different and more categorically explicit way. Maliciously minded non-material intelligent beings are filling that poor blighter’s head with all sorts of viciously destructive nonsense and he’s buying into it as if those ideas were his very own. And he reveals that’s what he’s up to by doing their bidding and passing the lies and insanely idiotic hatred along to others, in service to the liars who pay his wage (whatever form that payments takes).
The purpose of these demons is to bury the truth with lies in the minds and souls of their victims, and then rule over these damaged people, for selfish purposes.
Spreading lies, hates, crimes, and the destruction of all that is good is both their gospel and the steps of their battle plan. The sheer complexity of that voluntarily joined collaborative planned operation is a wonder to behold, but the basic mechanism could not be more simple.
Satan uses lies to entice, persuade or compel others to do his dirty work, which typically involves getting still more people to do his dirty work, BY ACCEPTING LIES AND CARRYING OUT BAD DEEDS, THEREBY VOLITIONALLY REMOVING THEMSLVES FROM GOD.
Since God is the ONLY source of Truth and Life removing ones self from that sole source of truth and life is a terrible mistake with dreadful consequences, namely failure, suffering and death. Exceedingly not good and very much not a “viable” plan in any kind of long run.
The lies are in the form of thoughts and ideas and purposeful intentions which simply occur in the intended recipient’s mind.
You can call that transfer of non-material information (thought) whatever you want to call it. Since there is no acceptably proven explanation of what a thought even is, much less the consciousness which is aware of the thought’s content, it’s open season on nomenclature. Call it telepathy, prayer or bio-magic, suit yourself. Assignment of a name or label doesn’t change the nature of what it is. The point is that demons both can and do use that method as practically their only modus operandi. (I mean, what else COULD they do? Levitate little girls and make them puke like in “The Exorcist” ?
The fact is that @aspnaz is merely a conduit for demons, and that he is fighting for the lord of flies. He doesn’t have to stay a bad guy, but he’s certainly working for the bad guys now, and his chances don’t look very good at the moment. I hope he recovers, but meanwhile he has to lose because he’s fighting for the wrong side.
His only rebuttal in defense against these charges is to try to convince folks to think that I am the crazy, delusional liar who spouts falsehood. His task is simple (although impossible), which is to show me up as WRONG, but he can’t do that for two reasons. The first reason is that I’m not wrong, and the second is that he can’t make the point without bringing up the subject. The catch is that if he brings up the subject for discussion then he LOSES the public debate, real fast.
The entire case could be closed (and @aspnaz could stop suffering) just as soon as he admits to the truth, but to get to that juncture he FIRST has to argue about it in great detail right out here in public, because there’s just no way he’s going to make me (and many many others) shut up about God, and he can’t just let it stand by not directly refuting my arguments in some kind of point by point way.
Like I said, the world is already getting a LOT more dramatically “religiously themed”, in both words and actions, and it’s in the mid-stages of going full-on explosion.
The controversy regarding the State of Israel, for example, is a religious question, with truly serious and wide ranging material consequences. The question is a literal fight over whether the one true God did or did not “choose” some distinctly identifiable group of people to be (and remain) his specially privileged “chosen people” for ever and ever, even after their Messiah showed up on schedule and proclaimed a new and distinctly modified covenant between God and human. My lawyer says that their lawyer has a very weak case, as in “certain loser”.
In any case, and dragging this overlong essay back to its point, we (meaning humankind) ARE going to be publicly arguing these and other closely related important RELIGIOUS questions, and then taking measures to address those situations accordingly.
Brace yourselves. It’s going to get salty.
December 13, 2025 at 10:40 pm #221755Michael Reid
ParticipantDecember 13, 2025 at 10:52 pm #221757Michael Reid
ParticipantDecember 13, 2025 at 10:59 pm #221760December 13, 2025 at 11:02 pm #221761John Day
ParticipantMore Than Money https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/more-than-money
Surplus Energy Economics, Madmen and economists – THE ESCALATING DANGERS OF ECONOMIC DENIAL
One of the greatest mysteries of our times is why the authorities have not only permitted but actively, through their policy choices, promoted the formation of the biggest bubble in financial history, whilst knowing perfectly well, all along, how this must end…
..If it ever became known that the economy had stopped growing and started to shrink, no existing set of social, political or commercial arrangements could survive. The denial of economic inflexion is the sine qua non for the defence of the status quo. Nowhere in the world is worse equipped than the West for surviving the ending and reversal of growth…
..What seems to have happened is that the only lever that decision-makers can pull in a slumping economy is the lever of financial stimulus, the use of which in turn triggers a runaway compounding process of escalating risk…
..The Surplus Energy Economics interpretation of economics is based on a comparison between the “real” economy of material products and services and the parallel “financial” economy of money, transactions and credit.
The productive process which drives the underlying “real” economy works by using energy to convert other raw materials into products, artefacts and infrastructures, as part of a continuous cycle of production, consumption, relinquishment and replacement.
Though depletion has subjected the non-energy resource base – including minerals, non-metallic mining products, biomass and accessible water – to gradual degradation, the primary factor driving the material economy from growth into contraction has been a relentless rise in the proportionate cost of energy. Measured here as the Energy Cost of Energy, this cost has climbed from 2.0% in 1980, and 4.3% in 2000, to more than 11% today.…Kenneth Boulding famously said that only “a madman or an economist” could believe that exponential economic growth could carry on forever on a finite planet. His view was reinforced and quantified by the authors of the contemporaneous The Limits to Growth (LtG), who set out the interconnected processes which would put an end to economic expansion.
But “eventual” has always been a key word in this argument. Though no timescales were specified in LtG, the accompanying charts appeared to put this ending of growth somewhere between 2020 and 2030, which was a matter of little immediate concern when the report was published back in 1972.
LtG has been revisited on a number of occasions, and these reviews have tended to vindicate the original thesis. As this has happened, time has moved on, and the moment of inflexion from economic growth into contraction has drawn ever nearer.
SEEDS analysis concurs with the LtG projections, indicating that material economic growth might already have ended, and that the economy will have inflected into contraction by the end of this decade.
This has been a matter of modelled calculation, but there’s an abundance of external evidence to support it…
..International relations have been degenerating into bare-knuckled fights over scarce and dwindling resources.
But the single most compelling piece of evidence for the onset of economic contraction is the gigantic bubble that has been inflated across almost all classes of assets in modern times…
..Each dollar of reported growth has been accompanied by net new financial liabilities of at least $8.
Even this calculation drastically understates the severity of the situation, for two main reasons.
First, the aggregate financial liabilities referenced here do not include enormous “gaps” in the under-resourcing of forward pensions promises.
Second, and even more seriously, most of the “growth” reported in recent times has been cosmetic, amounting to nothing more than the transactional spending of vast amounts of borrowed money.
SEEDS analysis puts real growth in prosperity since 2004 at only 25%, reflecting a 37% increase in energy consumption, a dramatic rise in ECoEs, and a gradual decline in the rate at which energy use converts other resources into economic value.
The scale risk of extreme increases in liabilities has been compounded by rising complexity risk as the financial system has morphed into a bafflingly Byzantine structure of inter-dependent cross-collateralisation…
..Qualitative risk has increased as the centre of gravity of credit supply has migrated from the comparatively transparent and conservative centre of the financial system to its opaque and dangerous periphery.
Everyone knows how the reckless over-inflation of bubbles always ends, and many are familiar with the truism that “you can’t taper a ponzi”…
..Governments have become primary drivers of credit expansion, with public debt soaring as fiscal deficits now routinely exceed – in some cases, far exceed – reported “growth”. But why would governments and central banks knowingly court the chaos that must result from the bursting of ‘the bubble to end all bubbles’?
Charles Hugh Smith has given us the clue to this seemingly inexplicable behaviour in a particularly perceptive recent article in which he explained that “the entire bubble economy is a hallucination”.
A “hallucination”, of course, is ‘a perception that differs from material reality’, or, in the simplest of terms, a false narrative. The “false narrative” to which we have been subjected is that economic growth not only hasn’t stopped, but won’t.
If it ever had to be admitted that economic growth had ended, you see, all existing social, political and commercial arrangements would be invalidated… (It) would put an end to the post-capitalist expediency (PCE) now prevalent in the West…
..The economy is not shaped by money. Within our two economies conception, we know that money has no intrinsic worth, but commands value only in terms of those material things for which it can be exchanged. This, in Surplus Energy Economics, is the principle of money as claim… Unlike money, energy and raw materials can’t be loaned into existence by the banking system, or conjured out of the ether by central banks… Money is a proxy for material economic prosperity, whilst the basis of this prosperity is the use of energy to convert natural resources into material products and infrastructures…
..Far from being limitless, the potential of technology is contained within an envelope of possibility whose boundaries are set by the laws of physics and the characteristics of materials… The claim that ‘exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world’ is made, if not exactly by ‘madmen and economists’, then on the basis of orthodox economics and cornucopian fantasy.
Beyond its sheer size, what’s truly fascinating about the mania for all things AI-related is the way in which it fuses together the monetary and technological delusions that support the claim of never-ending economic growth.
Critical to this fusion is a disregard for the constraints of material finality.
Whatever promise the technology itself might offer, the current Western business model for AI makes vast demands for material resources, the most significant of which are energy and water. Even if these resources actually exist at the requisite scale – which is very far from certain [not near enough copper] – they can only be channelled into AI at the direct expense of households and other businesses…
..Whereas most of the money lost in the dotcom bust was equity, most of the value at risk in AI is debt, with significant cross-financing involved. The assets used as collateral for this debt are likely to have remarkably little residual value…
..What we have been seeing, then, is the use of reckless financial expansion in an effort to either counter, or disguise, the ending and reversal of economic growth… fiscal and monetary stimulus is an addictive drug, and a particularly alluring one when no other course of action is available…
..What recent events have been telling us is that, whilst policy-makers seem to be panicking, the moment of economic inflexion is drawing very close indeed. It might, in this context, be of interest that “the astronomical level of insider selling of publicly traded stocks” has now reached levels second only to those of 2007 – and we know what happened after that. https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/2025/12/11/315-madmen-and-economists/comment-page-1/#respondUgo Bardi notes that representative governments flourished with growing fossil-fueled industrial economies. A Seneca Cliff for Global Democracy? https://senecaeffect.substack.com/p/a-seneca-cliff-for-global-democracy
What if they just repudiate that $US debt and start fresh… Mounting debt crisis means global South governments are spending on average 15% of their revenue servicing external debt. This figure has doubled since 2010. More than 3.4 billion people now live in countries that spend more on interest payments than on health or education. https://x.com/jasonhickel/status/1998736671009861800
France’s Fiscal Death Spiral: A Nation Incapable Of Reform
What is now unfolding in France may soon drag the entire Eurozone into deep turmoil. The country is staggering through a fiscal crisis while locked in a political stalemate that seems impossible to break. In the bond market, the clock is ticking loudly as France’s public debt spirals out of control. This week, Prime Minister Sébastien Lecornu celebrated a textbook Pyrrhic victory. On Tuesday, the National Assembly narrowly approved his draft for next year’s social budget. But the win came at a steep price: sweeping concessions that will only worsen an already explosive fiscal situation. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/frances-fiscal-death-spiral-nation-incapable-reformDecember 13, 2025 at 11:04 pm #221762John Day
ParticipantFederal government hardware and software enables writing and cashing checks. First it was the penny now paper checks could eventually disappear altogether https://endtimeheadlines.org/2025/12/first-it-was-the-penny-now-paper-checks-could-eventually-disappear-altogether/
Russian Central Bank Sues Euroclear As EU Tries To Ram Through Assets Seizure https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/russian-central-bank-sues-euroclear-eu-tries-ram-through-assets-seizure-ukraine
The EU has an economic emergency it can’t openly discuss. EU triggers emergency clause to indefinitely immobilise Russian assets
The EU has decided to keep the assets of the Russian Central Bank immobilised for the foreseeable future. The ban, which is based on a provision for economic emergencies, pushes back against external attempts to release the €210 billion in assets before Ukraine is compensated…
..By doing so, the EU locks in the assets under its jurisdiction for the foreseeable future amid fears that the United States might seek control of the Russian funds and use them in a future settlement with Moscow to end the war.
The long-term immobilisation was agreed by ambassadors on Thursday afternoon under Article 122 of the EU treaties, which only requires a qualified majority from member states and bypasses the European Parliament. https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/12/11/eu-triggers-emergency-clause-to-indefinitely-immobilise-russian-assets Simplicius, Brussels “Crosses Rubicon” in Final Act of Self-Destruction to Seize Russian Assets … And Buy Ukraine a Sliver of Time
The day started with more hysteric-level fear-mongering from the dual totalitarian NATO-EU hydra. Rutte grimly declared that Russia has brought war to Europe, and that Europeans must be prepared for the scale of war that their ‘grandparents’ endured during WWII…
..This comes on the same day that the Brussels mafia has lowered the latch on the final act of its own self-immolation by voting to illegally change the need for a unanimous decision on the matter of returning Russia’s ‘frozen assets’ in order to freeze them in place indefinitely as a backstop to Ukraine’s “reparations”. They did this by using a clause for “economic emergencies”, in essence citing that the EU is suffering severe economic damage as result of “Russia’s war”.
Viktor Orban issued a fiery rebuttal on this occasion…
“With today’s procedure, the Brusselians are abolishing the requirement of unanimity with a single stroke of the pen, which is clearly unlawful.
With today’s decision, the rule of law in the European Union comes to an end, and Europe’s leaders are placing themselves above the rules. Instead of safeguarding compliance with the EU treaties, the European Commission is systematically raping European law ... With this, the rule of law in the European Union is being replaced by the rule of bureaucrats. In other words, a Brusselian dictatorship has taken hold.” …
..The problem is, as I have been outlining in the past two articles, the US has ramped up its pointed war on the current EU superstructure in quite surprising but logical ways. According to new reports, the US intends to pull Austria, Hungary, Italy, and Poland from the EU, pulling the rug from under the decrepit bloc.… This is stated by the publication Defense One, citing an unpublished version of the US national security strategy, which was privately sent to journalists. https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/brussels-crosses-rubicon-in-finalTrump Team Denies Leaked ‘Secret Plan’ To Break EU Nations Away From Brussels’ Grip https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-team-denies-leaked-secret-plan-break-eu-nations-away-brussels-grip
December 13, 2025 at 11:09 pm #221764John Day
Participant Russian Central Bank Sues Euroclear Over Frozen Assets; Will the EU Be Hoist on the Investor-State Settlement Disputes (ISDS) Petard? https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/12/russian-central-bank-sues-euroclear-over-frozen-assets-will-the-eu-be-hoist-on-the-investor-state-settlement-disputes-isds-petard.html
Belgian PM De Wever not ruling out legal action if the EU seizes Russian assets held by Euroclear
He is emphasising the risks of such a seizure and in such a case the risks cannot be borne by Belgium alone. He calls his conditions “rational, reasonable and justified”. https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2025/12/11/pm-de-wever-not-ruling-out-legal-action-if-the-eu-seizes-russian/? Italy, Bulgaria, and Malta have joined Belgium’s calls for alternatives to a €210 billion loan scheme to Ukraine using frozen Russian assets, in a move that threatens to torpedo the EU’s goal of agreeing the so-called ‘reparations loan’ at next week’s crunch EU summit. https://www.alliansfriheten.se/italy-bulgaria-and-malta-join-belgium-in-push-for-alternatives-to-e210-billion-ukraine-loan-euractiv-com/
EU states seek wider boarding powers to counter vessels suspected of aiding Russia’s war effort https://www.euractiv.com/news/eu-to-reinterpret-sea-law-to-confront-russias-shadow-fleet/
US revised 27-point peace plan drops ban on Ukraine’s Nato membership
The ban on Ukraine ever joining was included as Point 3 in the original US sponsored 28-point peace plan (28PPP) floated at the end of November that was presented to Russian President Vladimir Putin at a Moscow meeting on December 3.
The revised US peace plan also envisages the demilitarized zone being internationally recognized as Russian territory, the Financial Times reported, citing a draft agreement.
According to the publication, the American side, as part of the peace process, is proposing the creation of a so-called “belt of fortresses” – a territory in eastern Ukraine that Kyiv would be forced to vacate. https://www.intellinews.com/us-revised-27-point-peace-plan-drops-ban-on-ukraine-s-nato-membership-416395/?December 13, 2025 at 11:10 pm #221765John Day
ParticipantUkraine ready to consider Donbas demilitarized zone in concession to end war
Mykhailo Podolyak, an advisor to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, tells Le Monde that the zone would require Ukrainian and Russian forces to both pull back from the front line.
With downcast eyes and a subdued voice, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz admitted on Thursday, December 11, that Ukraine was now “ready” to accept territorial concessions. Kyiv has agreed to one of the major points in negotiations with the United States and Russia by accepting the establishment of a demilitarized zone in the Donbas. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/12/11/ukraine-ready-to-accept-donbas-demilitarized-zone-in-concession-to-end-war_6748397_4.html65% for peace, assuming Russia gets Dombas: Russian support for peace talks rises to wartime high as public sees war goals largely met https://www.intellinews.com/russian-support-for-peace-talks-rises-to-wartime-high-as-public-sees-war-goals-largely-met-416055/?source=russia
Israeli army kills 3 more Palestinians in Gaza despite ceasefire
Israeli force made up of several military vehicles and bulldozers advanced into Jabalia, witnesses say https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-army-kills-3-more-palestinians-in-gaza-despite-ceasefire/3767573Rights group: Palestinian prisoners are freezing to death in Israeli jails https://english.palinfo.com/news/2025/12/10/353369/
Brutal winter storms in Gaza put 850,000 people at imminent flood risk; Over 100 Palestinians detained in West Bank; U.S. military onboards Google’s AI https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/brutal-winter-storms-gaza-flood-risk-united-states-military-google-artificial-intellegience-palestinians-detained-west-bank-raid-drop-site-daily
December 13, 2025 at 11:11 pm #221766John Day
ParticipantGaza Tent Cities Under Water Amid Deadly ‘Catastrophic’ Storm https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/gaza-tent-cities-under-water-amid-deadly-catastrophic-storm
Their brains can’t grow, either. Gaza’s babies ‘scarred by war before first breath’ by malnutrition https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/12/1166539
Broad-spectrum genocide: Acute malnutrition epidemic stalks Gaza – Not a Ceasefire Day 61 https://israelpalestinenews.org/acute-malnutrition-epidemic-stalks-gaza-not-a-ceasefire-day-61/
Jonathan Cook, Israel’s biggest con trick: Hiding the true numbers it has killed in Gaza
Early on, Israel wrecked Gaza’s capacity to count its dead by destroying the enclave’s governmental offices and its hospitals. The 70,000 figure is likely to be a drastic under-estimate.
No, the biggest con trick is that Israel has successfully penned us all into a “debate”, one entirely divorced from reality, that relates only to those killed directly by its bombs and gunfire.
The truth is that far, far larger numbers of people in Gaza have been actively killed by Israel not through these direct means but through what statisticians refer to as “indirect” methods.
These people were killed by Israel destroying their homes and leaving them with no shelter. By Israel destroying their water and electricity supplies and their sanitation systems. By Israel levelling their hospitals. By Israel starving them. By Israel creating the perfect conditions for disease to spread. The list of ways Israel is killing people in Gaza goes on and on.
Imagine your own societies levelled in the way Gaza has been. How long would your elderly parents survive in this hellscape? https://jonathancook.substack.com/p/israels-biggest-con-trick-hiding How Israel Organizes and Arms Settler Militias to Terrorize Palestinians in the West Bank
What often appears as sporadic settler violence is in fact an organized system with an official structure fully operating as intended. https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israel-organized-settler-militias-west-bank-palestinians-funding-armsDecember 13, 2025 at 11:12 pm #221767John Day
ParticipantIsrael’s Knesset Approves Legislation That Legalizes Execution of Palestinian Abductees https://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-knesset-approves-legislation-legalizes-execution-palestinian-abductees/5908634
Daddy-Warbucks: Measure To Protect Israel From Global Arms Restrictions Tucked Into US Defense Budget https://israelpalestinenews.org/measure-to-protect-israel-from-global-arms-restrictions-tucked-into-us-defense-budget/
Remember what it took the get politicians to start calling for banning social media for kids; awareness of Israel’s genocide.
Rahm Emmanuel:
When it comes to our adolescents, it’s either going to be adults or the algorithms that raise our kids. No child under the age of 16 should have access to social media. TikTok, Instagram, Snapchat, and others are too powerful, too addictive, too alluring and too often target our young kids. Parents cannot fight Big Tech alone. Sensible regulations cut teen smoking and banned phones in classrooms to boost academic and social development. We’ve proven that smart steps are effective. The time for debate and discussion is over. It’s time to protect our kids and strengthen our families. https://x.com/YousefMunayyer/status/1998484362153619872 In new peace, US firms will help Israel spy on and target Gazans
The presence of Palantir and Dataminr at the new US military compound in Israel offers a glimpse of how tech companies are cashing in https://responsiblestatecraft.org/surveillance-gaza/It’s just a legal contract: Israel will withhold 50 million cubic meters of water from Jordan https://www.turkiyetoday.com/region/israel-will-withhold-50-million-cubic-meters-of-water-from-jordan-report-3211038?s=1
December 13, 2025 at 11:12 pm #221768John Day
ParticipantMax Blumenthal, Trump proudly announces an act of piracy, with the US theft of an oil tanker from Venezuela bound for Cuba
This act of financial terrorism was aimed at starving Cuba of energy, worsening its blackout crisis and tormenting its population https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1998888422283559051It wasn’t secret: Seized Tanker Reveals Cuba’s Secret Oil Lifeline As Trump Turns To Gunboat Diplomacy
Secretary of State Marco Rubio has realized that it is all about following the money. If the U.S. military posture in the Caribbean is one of “gunboat diplomacy” aimed at ushering in regime change in Caracas, Venezuela’s capital, against the country’s autocratic leader, Nicolás Maduro, then one way to accelerate regime instability is to weaken Cuba materially.
During President Trump’s first term, there was a brief moment in which the Maduro regime appeared close to being overthrown, but it was countered by support from Cuba. According to The New York Times reporters Michael Crowley and Edward Wong, that failure frustrated Trump, his advisers, and then Senator Rubio, who had backed regime change.
“Their theory of change involves cutting off all support to Cuba,” said Juan S. Gonzalez, who was President Joe Biden’s top White House aide for Western Hemisphere affairs. “Under this approach, once Venezuela goes, Cuba will follow.” https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/seized-tanker-reveals-cubas-secret-oil-lifeline-trump-turns-gunboat-diplomacyAn American Regime Change War With Venezuela Is Heating Up, These Are The real Motives Behind It. https://the307.substack.com/p/war-with-venezuela-is-heating-up
Caitlin Johnstone, The Empire Is Scrambling To Fully Dominate Latin America, And Other Notes
Stealing the oil hurts both Cuba and Venezuela, who are the two primary enemies of the US empire in the Americas because of their strongly socialist governments. They got a right wing government into Bolivia this year, and now they’re hurrying to push regime change in Caracas and Havana while they’ve got a right wing tyrant in office with a gusano secretary of state. The hope is to force the entirety of Latin America into full alignment with the empire before Trump leaves office. https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/the-empire-is-scrambling-to-fullyUS preparing to seize more tankers off Venezuela’s coast after first ship taken, sources say https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/exclusive-us-preparing-to-seize-more-tankers-off-venezuelas-coast-after-first-ship-taken-sources-say/ar-AA1SaNfC
December 13, 2025 at 11:13 pm #221769John Day
Participant Well, there’s that…China will destroy US military in fight over Taiwan, top secret document warns
Beijing’s hypersonic missiles ‘could sink US aircraft carriers within minutes’
Eric Gomez, a research fellow at the Taiwan Security Monitor, said the end result was unclear when he participated in a wargame for a Taiwan conflict, but noted the US suffered heavy losses.
“The US loses a lot of ships in the process. A lot of F-35 and other tactical aircraft in the theatre are degraded pretty rapidly too,” he told the Telegraph.
“I think the high cost of it was really sobering when we did the after-action summaries, and we’re like, ‘Okay, like, you guys lost 100-plus fifth-generation aircraft, multiple destroyers, a couple of submarines, a couple of carriers’. “It’s like, ‘oh gosh, man, that was a heavy toll’.” https://archive.is/v93yg#selection-2345.4-2349.82Remember that US fighter jet and chopper that crashed in the South China Sea recently? China builds an electromagnetic kill zone in the South China Sea
Battle space fuses South China Sea island bases, mobile jammers and shipborne kill webs that could neutralize US power projection https://asiatimes.com/2025/12/china-builds-an-electromagnetic-kill-zone-in-the-south-china-sea/Chinese Drone “Mothership” Capable Of Swarm Attack Takes Flight https://www.zerohedge.com/military/chinese-drone-mothership-capable-swarm-attack-takes-flight
Mamdani and top New York rabbis will meet privately, but their core divide remains unresolved
The Friday after Zohran Mamdani won, Rabbi Ammiel Hirsch gave a sermon saying that he believed the incoming New York mayor’s criticisms of Israel aligned with Hamas and that critics of Israel wanted to separate “good Jews” from “bad Jews” in a way that endangers the city’s Jewish community.
Hirsch, a self-described liberal, challenged Mamdani to prove him wrong… A month later, he noted, he is still waiting.
Mamdani is expected to have an unannounced meeting Thursday with the New York Board of Rabbis, of which Hirsch is the current president. According to two invitees, several rabbis who are attending are planning to propose a unified agenda, asking Mamdani to back away from his rejection of Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state or his support of the movement to boycott, divest and sanction Israel over its treatment of Palestinians.
But doing that wouldn’t just put Mamdani at odds with his base since, as Hirsch acknowledged in his sermon, support for Israel has plummeted not just among the far left but within the Democratic Party overall. It would be a reversal from which many of Mamdani’s other convictions flow. As he declared at a Democratic Socialists of America convention just two years ago, “the struggle for Palestinian liberation was at the core of my politics and continues to be.” https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/11/politics/zohran-mamdani-new-york-jewish-leaders Harvard Ousts Director of Human Rights Center Targeted By Trump Admin Over Rampant Anti-Semitism (AKA: Anti Zionist-Genocide)
Mary T. Bassett accused Israel of ‘potential genocide’ in a message to students and faculty https://freebeacon.com/campus/harvard-ousts-director-of-human-rights-center-targeted-by-trump-admin-over-rampant-anti-semitism/December 13, 2025 at 11:14 pm #221770John Day
ParticipantPeters was trying to save 2020 vote records for a recount, so why so late? Trump Says He Is Pardoning Former Colorado County Clerk Tina Peters https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-says-he-pardoning-former-colorado-county-clerk-tina-peters
Don’t let yourself depend on AI: Europol Pinpoints When Skynet-Like Human Resistance To AI Could Emerge
Europol, the EU’s central intelligence and coordination hub for serious crime and terrorism, identifies around 2035 as a potential inflection point at which a human resistance movement against AI could begin to take shape, in a scenario that echoes the resistance to Skynet in the Terminator film franchise. https://www.zerohedge.com/ai/europol-pinpoints-when-skynet-human-resistance-ai-could-emergeMeryl Nass MD, The TELECOM uber spying plan is being pushed by the FCC, NTIA and Congress, to remove all local authority over where the towers go, their health effects and who gets control of all that data
It is important to put these separate pieces of law and regulation together, and see through the phony justifications, to understand our world now https://merylnass.substack.com/p/the-telecom-uber-spying-plan-is-beingTrump signs executive order limiting states ability to regulate AI https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-signs-executive-order-limiting-045357675.html
What’s at Stake in Trump’s Executive Order Aiming to Curb State-Level AI Regulation
This post usefully summarizes various state laws to restrict the development and use of AI, as well as their current standing. It also points out that the Trump executive order cannot override them; only Congress can do that. But the breadth of the Trump effort shows the scope of the intended domestic pushback. https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/12/whats-at-stake-in-trumps-executive-order-aiming-to-curb-state-level-ai-regulation.htmlDecember 13, 2025 at 11:15 pm #221771John Day
Participant Meryl Nass MD, # Facing Starvation *tripled* in the past decade. A global guide on food and hunger is a good reference to have. How about a WIN-WIN for US farmers and the hungry? “Life-threatening hunger nearly tripled in the last decade to 295 million people across 53 countries.” https://merylnass.substack.com/p/facing-starvation-tripled-in-the
Kimberly Milhoan MD, Irony – Fired for being a physician and scientist
My husband Kirk Milhoan, MD, PhD, FAAP, FACC, and I are at the World Congress of Pediatric Cardiology and Cardiac Surgery in Hong Kong this week, a meeting that occurs once every four years (where he, incidentally, presented information regarding our 25 years of experience with international pediatric cardiac medical missions). While here, we found out he was being dismissed from his current practice of pediatric cardiology solely because of his service as Chair of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practice (ACIP) of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). He disclosed to his employer when he accepted the appointment to this committee, and then again when he accepted the role of chairman. He is a respected and valued contributor to his department. He has no patient or family complaints against him, and numerous accolades. Staff enjoy working with him. Those who broke the news to him apologized profusely, commending his integrity. Why did they fire him? Because of the overwhelming number of calls to their organization demanding his firing for his role on ACIP. The court of public opinion is dictating to a medical organization who can be on their staff, and they are bowing to it. It is a staggering turn of events...
..Update: Unfired. Thank you all for your overwhelming support and thank you to a true man of integrity for his intervention. https://kimberlymilhoanmd.substack.com/p/irony Nicolas Hulscher, World Health Organization Releases 2025 Autism–Vaccine Report — Ignores Vast Majority of the Evidence
The McCullough Foundation Autism Report remains the most comprehensive scientific assessment to date. https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/breaking-world-health-organizationMeryl Nass MD, Now we can all relax about vaccines and autism/ WHO https://merylnass.substack.com/p/now-we-can-all-relax-about-vaccines
Nicolas Hulscher, Peer-Reviewed Reanalysis of the Henry Ford Birth Cohort Study Finds Vaccinated Children Sicker Across All 22 Chronic Disease Categories – Our reanalysis of the largest U.S. vaccinated vs. unvaccinated birth cohort study ever conducted reveals 54% higher cancer rates and 549% higher autism-related disorders among vaccinated children. https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/breaking-peer-reviewed-reanalysis
December 13, 2025 at 11:16 pm #221772John Day
ParticipantMeryl Nass MD, *High Dose* Flu Shots in Elderly Show No Benefit and Worse Harms, Compared to Standard Dose Shots/NEJM
From a huge study in Denmark over 3 flu seasons, in which there was a reasonable match of vaccine to circulating strains. https://merylnass.substack.com/p/high-dose-flu-shots-in-elderly-show Dr.Nass, What you can do regarding the cell tower bills and getting rid of COVID mRNA vaccines – One petition to sign and one comment to make https://merylnass.substack.com/p/what-you-can-do-regarding-the-cell
John Klar, Kennedy and Rollins Launch MAHA-Inspired Pilot Program to Support Regenerative Farmers https://www.themahareport.com/p/kennedy-and-rollins-launch-maha-inspired
Chemical in dark chocolate may help slow ageing, new study finds
The study, published on Wednesday in the journal Aging, found that theobromine – a common plant compound that comes from cocoa beans – could slow biological ageing.
“Our study finds links between a key component of dark chocolate and staying younger for longer,” said Jordana Bell, the study’s senior author and head of the epigenomics research group at King’s College London. https://www.euronews.com/health/2025/12/10/chemical-in-dark-chocolate-may-help-slow-ageing-new-study-finds Sweat more to get rid of lead in your body: Lead in chocolate? What’s going on?
No one is deliberately adding lead or cadmium to chocolate bars.
Lead ends up in cacao post-harvest, as the beans are fermenting and drying. If they are dried on the ground, they may absorb lead from the ground. They may also absorb lead from dust in the air. All of this lead comes from the fact that the heavy metal was released from industrial processes and leaded fuel over decades and has spread widely.
Cadmium occurs naturally in many soils including volcanic soils. As cocoa trees grow, they absorb the cadmium which then ends up in the cocoa pods that are harvested to make chocolate...
..Nonprofit group As You Sow has done extensive testing on chocolates to see which bars contain lead or cadmium. As You Sow didn’t test all chocolates for lead and cadmium, but of the fair or direct trade dark chocolate bars they tested, they found that the following had low levels of either heavy metal:
Equal Exchange Organic Fairly Traded Dark Chocolate Panama Extra Dark 80% Cacao
Divine 85% Dark Chocolate
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December 14, 2025 at 2:04 am #221793Michael Reid
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ParticipantGold & Silver. Silver & Gold:
When did the Roman Empire fall?
After all precious metals were removed from Roman coins!
And everyone stopped accepting worthless Roman coins.The west’s empire is falling.
Trump gets it and is trying to save the US from the west empire’s collapse.
That is why Trump wants peace with Russia!The US Congress, US government, the deep state, City of London, UK & EU governments are all denying and resisting the empire’s forced retreat and collapse.
The deep state via Europe, is willing to threaten the collapse of the very foundations of the Empire’s financial system, just to prevent peace from breaking out in the Ukraine.
Why are they all so desperate?
To try and keep the status quo of their banker’s worthless fiat currencies going.But a BRIC gold backed world trading currency is slowly coming.
It keeps it’s gold into a rising price.
The west needs to buy gold as gold’s price rises while it’s fiat currency’s value falls.February 2022, Russian assets seized and Ukraine War over extends west’s empire.
March 1st, 2024, suppression of gold’s artificially low price, started to unravel. China.
Black Friday*, November 2025, suppression of silver’s of artificially low prices, explosively unraveled. China.
(*First time Unlimited amounts of printed US Fiat money could not buy the needed Silver bullion to meet demand.)When Western Roman Empire fell, the non-denial Roman Empire’s leaders departed Rome by boat and set up the Eastern Roman Empire in Constanople, using sound coins.
The deniers got left behind, in more ways than one.Trump maybe trying to save the US Empire from the west’s colapsing empire, by retreating back to the Americas.
As for the west empire’s deniers ………… there is more than one way, to get left behind.
Silver & Gold. Gold & Silver.
December 14, 2025 at 3:23 am #221800those darned kids
Participantgold is the ultimate fool’s gold.
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the “covidiot” movie is sad.
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