Debt Rattle November 29 2025
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December 15, 2025 at 3:29 pm #222193
D Benton Smith
ParticipantEventually it will be asked, and answered, what kind of a son slits his parent’s throats in anger, and what kind of parents raise a son like that?
Good questions, and the answers will be even gooder, in a very bad way.
December 15, 2025 at 3:31 pm #222194D Benton Smith
ParticipantIt should be a very interesting murder trial. I’m sure watching the run up with rapt attention.
December 15, 2025 at 3:50 pm #222201D Benton Smith
ParticipantWe as a listening audience must now endure days and weeks of hearing over and over again about what a magnificent and much beloved wonderful person and benefactor to humanity Rob Reiner was. And then in a few weeks or so it will start leaking out that maybe he wasn’t such a nice guy after all, and the kid had every right to defend himself from such monsters.
December 15, 2025 at 3:51 pm #222202zerosum
ParticipantProblems
managed to disable or destabilizes the Russians with those sanctions there was never any prospect of military success
you’re confused
will have to find other solutions
hopes of striking a political deal
in desperate need of …Solutions …
self-sufficient in food, energy, and raw materials
and with an industrial base more extensive and resilient than any country or combination of countries————–
The First Day of Negotiations Has Ended
Western Kupiansk is on the Brink
Military Summary 2025.12.15
———–December 15, 2025 at 4:01 pm #222204Michael Reid
ParticipantDecember 15, 2025 at 4:18 pm #222207zerosum
ParticipantInflation steady at 2.2%
people who know math. see the lies.
( 2.2% of a 100 is less than 2.2% of 200.)December 15, 2025 at 4:58 pm #222212December 15, 2025 at 5:10 pm #222215Michael Reid
ParticipantDecember 15, 2025 at 5:14 pm #222216December 15, 2025 at 6:03 pm #222220tboc
ParticipantThe amount the Pro-Israel organizations spend on the US Congress is measured in millions. The amount of US support for Israeli military action in Gaza is measured in billions.
1/10/2024
According to an analysis by The Guardian, the pro-Israel lobby, including groups like the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), Democratic Majority for Israel (DMFI) and J Street, gave over $58 million to members of Congress in their most recent elections.
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https:// truthout.org/articles/israel-lobby-has-given-58m-to-congress-which-overwhelmingly-backs-gaza-assault/8/7/2024
Economist Linda J. Bilmes (Senior Lecturer, Harvard University) and policy analysts Stephen Semler (Co-Founder, Security Policy Reform Institute) and William D. Hartung (Senior Research Fellow, Quincy Institute) calculate that U.S. spending on Israel’s military operations and related U.S operations in the region total at least $22.76 billion and counting.
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https:// costsofwar.watson.brown.edu/paper/united-states-spending-israels-military-operations-and-related-us-operations-region-october-7
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11/24/2025
What Every American Should Know About U.S. Aid to Israel – American Jewish Council
https:// http://www.ajc.org/news/what-every-american-should-know-about-us-aid-to-israelInvest $58 million get a return of $22.76 billion
to be fair, now that Gaza has been blown to smithereens US support for military action is declining.December 15, 2025 at 7:37 pm #222233D Benton Smith
ParticipantIsrael is committed to pumping out pro-Israeli propaganda, regardless of how offensively ridiculous it is, until we all believe it.
I’m not sure how long my eardrums and cerebellum can stand up to the onslaught, and the open market value of utter bullshit is in the crapper (pun intended). Why, most people wouldn’t give two cents for the best lie of the millennium.
The Israeli government of straight up self-professed atheists can do no wrong because they are the chosen people of God, for example. I kid you not. Leaders of that country are actually on-record with that assertion, without a single shred of supportive evidence of it’s veracity and utterly deaf dumb and blind to the fact that atheists believe that the God who gave them the right to murder children and steal land does not even exist.
December 15, 2025 at 8:12 pm #222236zerosum
ParticipantMoney, given to Israel, is being recycled in pro-Israeli propaganda.
December 15, 2025 at 8:28 pm #222242D Benton Smith
ParticipantMoney, given to Israel, is being recycled in pro-Israeli propaganda.
You got it. Recycled into propaganda and a WHOLE lot more.
It’s being recycled into bribery of thousands of public officials and influential “private” citizens, child sexual abuse (and murder) and subsequent blackmail of the offenders, and good old fashioned assassination for those who just won’t go along with the genocide thing. Satanic Ritual Murder is another big expense that requires tons of money to get away with, but hey, money is no object when you OWN the printing presses, the banks and the judicial system that “polices” (joke) the whole mess.
December 15, 2025 at 9:19 pm #222250WES
ParticipantInflation:
So inflation is only 2.2%, they say.
By the Rule of 72, that means 72 ÷ 2.2% = 32.73 years for your money to lose half it’s purchasing power, or for prices to double.
In year 2000, most items cost a dollar at the dollar store.
Now in 2025, many items, not all, cost up to $5.
No dollar store items, remains at a dollar today.So 2.2% inflation must be a lie.
Now, go back to sleep.December 15, 2025 at 9:50 pm #222257kultsommer
ParticipantCurrent need for a “look, squirrel” shout, of any kind, while this is happening behind closed door.
December 15, 2025 at 10:03 pm #222258Michael Reid
ParticipantDear Dr. D here is a history lesson for you and some intelligence.
December 15, 2025 at 10:49 pm #222267Michael Reid
ParticipantDear Dr. D here is more assessment of Trump and our reality
December 15, 2025 at 10:51 pm #222268Michael Reid
ParticipantWho knows what is real anymore
December 15, 2025 at 11:12 pm #222270Michael Reid
ParticipantDecember 15, 2025 at 11:17 pm #222271Michael Reid
ParticipantDecember 15, 2025 at 11:36 pm #222275tboc
ParticipantDBS @ 22242, is that you?
“Who knows what is real anymore” – Michael Reid
How many care?December 15, 2025 at 11:57 pm #222280Michael Reid
ParticipantDecember 16, 2025 at 12:08 am #222286tboc
ParticipantMichael Reid the majority of those here dedicated their entire adult life to the lie. Any boomer who says they did not know, after 1975, the US culture as presented is a lie:
1.- has earned a Darwin award
2.- is lyingJiminy Cricket sang a nice song, it was a Disney production.
December 16, 2025 at 1:06 am #222292D Benton Smith
ParticipantDBS @ 22242, is that you?
Yup, comment 22242 is me alright. I was trying to convey that I agree with your observation [“Money, given to Israel, is being recycled in pro-Israeli propaganda.“] very much, and then added more to it. Why do you ask?
December 16, 2025 at 2:19 am #222305Michael Reid
Participant@tboc, I only started waking up with CV19 only to discover nearly everything is a lie in western civilization
December 16, 2025 at 2:36 am #222310Michael Reid
ParticipantDecember 16, 2025 at 2:48 am #222312Michael Reid
ParticipantDecember 16, 2025 at 3:32 am #222327zerosum
ParticipantName the 15 victims, (rabbis, children, Holocaust survivor) from MSM coverage?
December 16, 2025 at 4:04 am #222331WES
ParticipantZerosum:
The PM of Australia says the shooters were right wing, so I guess the victims must have been left wing.
I would have thought maybe left wing shooting right wing, but what do I know?/s
December 16, 2025 at 4:52 am #222343Michael Reid
ParticipantAmerica has no right bullying other countries and stealing.
It needs a good smack in the face
December 16, 2025 at 5:01 am #222345Michael Reid
ParticipantDecember 16, 2025 at 1:22 pm #222424Dr. D
Participant“Zimbabwe Now Leads the World in Deforestation, after Chinese took Over Tobacco Industry
Willem Petzer•29K views•2 days agoThat can’t be right, the U.S. is uniquely bad, the baddiest bad, worst at everything and all other nations are better than us. How can a non-white group do anything bad? That’s IMPOSSIBLE!!!
Okay, yeah, um, that’s why we need to reform ourselves and NOT just let China do whatever they want. You know Panama Canal 2.0? Much discussed? Seems reasonable. Uh: NO. It is IMPOSSIBLE to put a canal where they’re saying. Why? THERE IS NO WATER, you fools, to say nothing of everything else, like it’s wider and harder. Panama is the only place where there’s water AND giant lakes on top.
Soooo…China dum? Hahahaaha! No! Of course not! They’re STEALING!! They PRETEND to care about a canal so they can CLEAR CUT the f—k out of that virgin rain forest for hundreds of miles, THEN build a 100k person military base Hahaha! Fools. No (Central) AMERICANS were going to be employed there, of course! Only Chinese. That seemed to be what they were up to, I don’t know how far along they got. Jeez, and you think WE’RE bad. For many years we were the LEAST bad in history which is why ppl put up with us until about 2001. Least bad is still better than most bad.
“Aussie PM Invokes ‘Right-Wing Extremism’ After Islamic Terrorist Attack
Ah, those RIGHT wing Muslims. Who knew? So turns out George Bush and Al-Q WERE on the same side all along! It’s all those White/Brown Right/Left people who are the problem, whut. Especially the ones with Machetes, unless they’re brown.
“Rob Reiner’s Son Nick Taken Into Custody On Homicide Suspicion, Records Show
Could they just not kill somebody for 12 hours, please? That is tragic tho. Wtf.
Bitcoin: going nowhere, up or down. The only reason it even seems “Down” is because it was so “Up” recently. In fact, it’s over the $70k resistance it was stuck at for ages.
Now, when you look at the charts, what do you see? Zcash, Monaro are the only “Strengths”. (That’s arguable but it’s visible.) The privacy coins. People are running, and as some others are too, they’re also not deep crypto ppl but newbies.
Looking at all red, what do we see? What if ALL the markets were red, as we regularly expect in Nvidia and other nonsense stocks? CRE of course, but single-unit houses?
If all markets are red, by definition the US$ is going UP. That’s what that means. Of course, it’s likely in that case the USDX, Euro, are all still near $1, (what a coincidence) and we can merge into a one global currency as planned. But not necessarily, as that would be the issue of “Europe cracking” from the loss in Ukraine – and they already spent Ukraine, which they didn’t win, and spent the frozen funds, and probably spent the breakup of all Russia as well. That’s why they haven’t gone bankrupt when I long thought they would. The check-kiting and accounting fraud is too complicated and too hidden for me to see. Of course. Because they have to fool ACTUAL market people and bondholders like Dowd or Burry, or there’d long have been a run and a short on them.
What am I getting at? Same as so often: Core currency goes down LAST. And first it goes UP. Way, way UP. So if Europe cracks, money will flood here, at the same time money is rushing into the Dow — or anything, 1920s style – but SOME markets will have already crashed (Bitcoin) then MORE markets will “crash”. But GM, GE, aren’t “Crashing” they’re the same stocks and companies as ever. What’s happening is, the US$ will rise vs Europe, Stocks, everything, as everyone goes to core currency and tries to shed debt. Even gold. You sell what you CAN, not what you WANT.
And only THEN will everything be broken and crash. With the US$ being the LAST thing that gets broked. The economy long since has, as we’ve seen not 2 years in the green since 2001, and Europe worse than us.
Just saying that as we see incomprehensible moves, in a way, but we may only be 1/3, 2/3s along the process right now. They then swap out the US$, debt, fake promises are written off, accounting fraud is mostly caught and cleared, etc, and we start over with less lies. How? We go back on a semi-gold, that is semi-REAL settlement system, just as always, and just as they’ve engineered and set up to be installed in the Fed, and with China (manufacturing) and Russia (Commodities). Along with India and everybody else. Everyone gets paid in kind, with REAL things, wheat, oil, or else REAL things, Gold, (bitcoin). And colonialism stops or is greatly curtailed for a while.
There were only two options: ever increasing fascism, a CBDC shoved down our throats via 1984 police state – since it wouldn’t work even for garage sales – OR you go BACK to honesty, have LESS expensive police state and violence, and do things VOLUNTARY, which is everso much cheaper. But the GW Bush family gets poor.
That is the same battle and choice our Generals faced and ran scenarios on in 1990 when they started to rebel against Empire, Banking, World Police, etc. …As does every nation, every time. This is the financial side of the same battle.
Note, there is a Media psy-op side to it as well that we ALSO fight every day. This is 5 Generation War, ALL things are battles, not just military men and their industrial hardware. They activate a sleeper cell every day – however fake, ghey, pointless, and retarded they may be, then activate a lying media to say they’re White when they’re Black, Christian when they’re brown, Right when they’re Left, and “A Maryland Father” when they’re a Central American gang member who beats his girlfriend. The lying IS the op. That’s why it can’t stop. If it stopped, everything would be obvious and we’d all be on the same page, with the same response to it. Uh, have “Law” and “Logos”, Order?
“Brussels Slams Brakes On 2035 Combustion Engine Ban
Oh noes. No kidding. Wow, whoever could have seen this coming. Yeah, we “pass laws” then they are NOT laws, not passed, but also passed, but not really, but not enforced, but sometimes enforced, but not really. Because that’s what “Law” is. And means.
“John Mearsheimer: Why Diplomacy Is Going Nowhere & Ukraine Is Doomed
Doomed! DOOOOOOOOMED I say!!! Yes, but only since 2014, or 2022. Or 1994 when we saw the corruption get in. And they’re not doomed, the Russian parts are rebuilt and doing great. Modern, clean space-age.
(Astana, acky) That’s available for Lviv, if only they want it. But they want corruption. Wow, sounds like Ukraine and the People of the United States have a lot in common. We too will be greedy, grab for ourselves, screw our own family, then decry Musk and Bezos for doing the same thing. “Everywhere I go, I hurt people and steal stuff, why is the world so s—tty?” Check your shoes. The smell is you. NOT Elon. If you didn’t fall for Uber ‘coz you’re lazy, selfish, and bad at math, they wouldn’t have money and driven out 100 year old small businesses that were keeping America – that is, your neighbors – going. Feeding their kids.
Mike Huckabee and the Ever-shifting Yellow Line. Little Golden Book. Actually, the Yellow Line just moves around 6 foot circle of every Israel soldier, wherever they go in the world.
“Trump’s National Security Strategy (NSS)” – Rockwell
As every Libertarian trashes the possible in search of the perfect. I feel like they haven’t even read it. Or read the same document. But it goes like this: did you read it “Straight”, or not? Did you read it generously, at face value, as these are essentially legal documents active bureaucrats are supposed to mold to? Or did you read it as if everyone is a liar, and with the most corrupt, evil view of everyone possible, accusing every motive?
To me it’s the OPPOSITE of what Rockwell says. We ARE moving closer to home and ending Empire. It’s cheaper to trade than to occupy, eg, Ven, Argentina…or Japan. Etc. But so long as there is ANY U.S. Army anywhere on the planet, the U.S. will be considered evil by these people and have to be destroyed. …And we know that always goes well in history, like the Cherokee, not having an army, vs General Jackson. The Manhattan Indians not having an army against the Dutch. Wtf are you Libertarian morons talking about? Why on God’s earth would China NOT set up 1,000 military bases with 1,000 Oreshnik missiles in Tijuana, and colonize the U.S. with blackmail same as Africa? Jesus Christ, did you all fall off a turnip truck yesterday?
What’s your home address? Here’s your first “Little Golden History Book” that “History Happened”, see if you can keep up. ANY reading of ANY human culture at ANY time in the last 10,000 years will be adequate to get this point across.
So in this case, it’s the people who already decided they hate Trump, everything he says is a lie and everything he does is evil, vs people who are reading a National Security Document for information and change of strategic focus. I don’t trust them either, but I’m in the latter, because if you’re in the former, there’s no point in reading the doc in the first place! Because you’re just going to say every word is a lie, coz everyone is dum but you. Then don’t waster your time reading! Just assume, you’re going to anyway.
Yup, we’re now down to the Lew Rockwells and Rand Pauls of the world, just when we need some d—n allies, they all go start shooting the guy next to them in the foxhole. Thanks, Judge. A page right out of Rich’s book. 1) Do no work 2) Shoot all allies. 3) Join up with me!
WES, 2.2% inflation.
Yes, obviously. But the DNC just got slammed again yesterday for the 40th time in a row on this. Showing radical inflation charts. “Inflation isn’t 2%!!!” they say, “It’s 10, 50, 100%!!!” Yes. THEN THEY SHOW CHARTS OF BIDEN, I kid you not, you can’t make this stuff up. So we’re talking about two different things, both are possible. Is it POSSIBLE inflation is 2.2%? Yes. But that’ the old “We make stuff up” 2.2% lying statistics of the last 25 years since Greenspan. That 2.2% is probably 5%, 8% 10%? But it’s the same as always. But the inflation they’re talking about, that you see in stores, like Dollar Stores, happened under Obama, Biden…heck Bush, why not? Trump DROPPED costs – they weren’t flat but they dropped – but we can’t let him off the hook since he did, or planned, stimmy checks, and locked down for Covid (voluntarily, by permitting the States/cities to be unconstitutional). Now he may not have ate the boomerang on that, but you could argue Biden’s inflation was caused by Trump’s stimmy lockdown. So he doesn’t get off.
But we’re talking 100-200% rise in 3 years of Biden. And now we’re 2% again, maybe 6% real, gas plummets which is the master cost under Trump. Both are possible. Now should he do more? Of course. He is “Allowing” home prices to spiral so rents are still “rising” (they’re sticky) and it’s pissing kids off, as well it should. However, the only “Solution” to this is to get Fannie out of Receivership, which the government refuses to do on his direct orders (As usual) and/or crash the entire financial system and re-set it, which you won’t like either. Here’s your financial system, lit by Nixon, or FDR, or Wilson, or whenever you like, your choice, then they hand it to the next sap and blame him:
The bomb, of course, is Batman’s fault. I mean, he’s the one carrying it, isn’t he? I rest my case.
Therefore, all cans sold, contents robbed, then kicked into traffic for the last 100 years are Trump’s fault. If he touches anything, ANYTHING, he “takes ownership” of it (Duran, Ukr war) and if he CHANGES anything, ANYTHING, well that’s much, MUCH worse. Since like removing a sliver, or a bullet, or amputating a limb, it’s dangerous and the transition in painful, and today’s not really a good day. Neither were the last 365,000 days. Nope, not one.
So the Libertarians who want everything changed, turn out to be exactly the same useless morons as the Progressive Left, who want everything changed. …Unless you try to change things, then they don’t like it and you’re doing it wrong. While they sit on the couch and kvetch.
Gee, why everything suck around here, when all I’ve been doing is sitting on the couch complaining? Can’t understand why we po’.
…Just because Sachs says something doesn’t make it true. Sachs is the engineer or Russia’s globalist robbery every year of his life in the 90s there. He then still “Doesn’t notice” any of that, even decades later when it’s even MORE obvious. Yup. Totes legit. What Sachs says, opening paragraph, is false. He says “The U.S. can dictate, topple” etc. Uhhhh, Jeff? We never have. Everyone knows we have failed constantly, everywhere we’ve tried, Iraq being but one of the most famous ones. We didn’t leave F-Stan? We didn’t lose Belarus, Georgia? Venezuela as far back as Chavez and before? EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS IS FALSE, Jeff. Even the GOVERNMENT knows it is false, and that’s really saying something, because they’re ring-fenced, hermetic bubbled, psychotic delusionals. And such goes his talk on Monroe, etc. Adding a little clever truth (like Russia) then FORGETTING to mention that OTHER truth (Like he was the engineer of the Russian rape). It’s fine to listen to him, but we have to be aware. His biggest miss is also yours: WHO? Who exactly? There is no “America”. “America” did this. So Trump is the SAME as…FDR. Same as Clinton. Same as Teddy Roosevelt (I kid you not). Same as the CIA, oh no they’re not in-fighting and attempting completely opposite policies at all, eg Tariffs. Nope. They’re fighting and shooting Trump weekly bc they’re the Same. He’s their handmaiden, that’s why they love, love, love Trump so, so, so muchly. (P.S. Trump conquered Hawaii personally, as well as Cuba, etc. Coz Science n’ Trump is like that.)
“America needs to stop Empire.” Then read the National Security document. But then everyone says they don’t want that. Yourself included. If Trump does what we’re doing (Empire) that’s bad, but if he CHANGES away from Empire, and abandons Ukraine, that’s Bad too. All things are bad. That’s even more than your original which is that all things TRUMP does are bad.
Here, you want to read NSS document together? We’ll go over it line by line together. It’s only 30 pages.
December 16, 2025 at 1:45 pm #222425Dr. D
ParticipantWhy would you trust Sachs? He’s the most Global of any Globalist who ever Globaled.
He’s the poster child for all Global Colonial Extraction and Destruction, how it’s all done with an IMF, spreadsheet logic-face, all of which is more phony than a $13 dollar bill. Why do you think he’s allowed on TV? Because Globalists, Graham, Bezos, on Rupert Murdoch’s channel hate him so much?
Call me when Assange and Snowden get a daily interview the way he does.
December 16, 2025 at 1:58 pm #222426Michael Reid
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December 16, 2025 at 2:07 pm #222428Topcat
ParticipantSad Little Man
Why is Fauci still fogging a mirror?
It’s a testament to the. sheer impotence of Trumptard.
He should have been Target Number #1 first day in office.
But he walks free instead of dangling by his neck until Dead.
December 16, 2025 at 2:14 pm #222429Topcat
ParticipantAh….merica has a very Dark Road ahead of it
December 16, 2025 at 2:19 pm #222430D Benton Smith
Participant@DrD
The United States is a country consisting primarily of human beings (growing evidence to the contrary not withstanding) and as such is subject to the same human foibles, mistakes and just plain old general purpose psychopathy that other countries are prone to as well..
We don’t have a patent on either good nor evil, so when you set out to find those things (good and evil) it’s a safe bet that you’ll find some. Of both.
And a good thing to do about bad things, when you find them, is to get rid of them as best you can, regardless of where it was found.
I don’t mind your patriotic love of country. I have a whole bunch of the same feelings too, but when you imply that the United States should be forgiven its trespasses because it is being unfairly criticized by people who are ever so much worse, then I just chalk it up to attempted deflection, caused by a deep sense of guilt for the truly horrible things that it has done or arranged to be done under its auspices.
December 16, 2025 at 2:27 pm #222431D Benton Smith
Participant@DrD
I want you to know that I am not having a go at you, and that there is no personal component to my criticism of certain of your opinions. To me it is just straight up debate, and if it turns out in the end that I am wrong then I will just graciously and cleverly change my mind, correct my thinking, and thereby become righteous once again. I might even apologize or something like it (but don’t hold your breath waiting for THAT).
December 16, 2025 at 2:35 pm #222432those darned kids
Participant“So turns out George Bush and Al-Q WERE on the same side all along!”
obviously!
December 16, 2025 at 2:39 pm #222433those darned kids
Participant” the people who already decided they hate Trump”
H”E’S’ A FRKIIIIKKKINGGG MURRDERRRR, YOU MORON!!!!!!!!
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