Debt Rattle November 29 2025
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Gold is minutes away from hitting $4,500 and Silver is at $71.37 and climbing like a goosed monkey.
We might have to call off the AI Apocalypse due to lack of silver to build it. I’ll get back with you on that, but in the meantime there is the more immediate effect of what happens when the mere price of silver, alone, is enough to but the brakes on the boom. And there would be large further repercussions from hiccup as well.
Wild times at Western High.
The belief (or at least the enduring faith) in money as a real thing creates a mass psychosis in which unscrupulous people see the insanity for what it is (it’s a lie) and play it as an opportunity to takes things from people by means of false promises of repayment, for which there is no intention whatsoever of ever giving fair value back in return for value taken.
Trumptard wants to build “Trump Class” Big Beautiful Battleships
“They will be the biggest baddest fastest battleships in all of human history!”
Hahahahaha
What a pompous imperialist buffoon Trumptard has revealed himself to be.
A single Russian hypersonic Oreshnik and Poof, it’s gone!
This will help “Take” Greenland as the Donaldtard has said.
Hahahaha
So Trump wants to build big beautiful battleships.
SPROING CLANK! That’s it. My brain just pegged out, maximum-irony-overload. I can’t take it anymore! Somebody let me OUT of this monkey house!
What can a person still capable of speech even SAY about that level of wacked out nonsense?
I literally can’t dredge up a comparable comparison of how monumentally stupid it is to even TALK about building tomorrow’s less-than-worthless boondoggle battleship when we have a full-blown societal collapse boiling over right now even as we speak.
Not a day goes by that we don’t learn of yet another real-live atrocity like an old woman being attacked by a weapon swinging habitual repeat offender for no reason released onto the streets to kill others, by the very people we trust and pay to keep our streets safe.
The scary part is that the phenomenon is a nation wide acceptance of the fact that this is how cities are run. The unacceptably abnormal has become acceptably normal. No one is fighting it hard enough to change it even one little bit. That’s still the way it just is.
“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” ~ Frank Zappa
the discussion of the market and society has been very instructive today
it was one of those Lily Tomlin daysRead the Protocols. Read the talmud, as per how you deal with Goyim. Listen to the boastful rabbis, who think they already have the whole world by the balls, because they print $. Dr D can shove his kike nonsense up his ass. Merry Christmas. Christ tried to warn you 2000+ years ago. They murdered him for it.
Christ tried to warn you 2000+ years ago. They murdered him for it.
Those are two good points. So, what was His warning, and did you learn anything from what he advised and taken that instruction to heart, or do you still think that combative hatred is the solution to our problems with our so-called “Jewish” populations?
Also, there is the matter that He did nothing to prevent his own murder. Do you think that He made a mistake in that regard, and if so then what supports your argument that you’re smarter than Jesus?
Man of man, wouldja just look at what silver is doing today, and for the past three years actually.
By the way, and in a similar way, $100 silver will be a lot like $200 oil. It will gum up the works and cause disruptions throughout the entire societal mechanism, just by price alone, because at $100 per ounce there are VITAL industrial functions which will be seriously impaired or stopped altogether because they won’t be able to operate profitably at those price levels. And $200 silver is unsurvivable, technologically speaking. At 200 bucks the wheels just stop turning, which makes me a little queasy just to conceptualize.
It’s really hard to project in detail what the cascading effects might be, except to say that there are cascading detrimental effects, and the engines of commerce might just shudder and stop if the cascade sets up a feedback loop that halts (for example) the biggest financial gamble in all of human history: going “All In” on electronic machine intelligence (“AI Everything”).
Right-wing: Genius Level
Trump said “With GOD as my witness, if I get into power, I SWEAR I will release EVERY document incriminating ME, The Donald, that Obama and Biden all refused to, so help me GOD.”
Yup, that’s on every Conservative channel right now, just took another dose from Moriarty.
You know, I didn’t know Republicans had dealers for drugs that good, but I guess I’m mistaken.
So thankfully Donald Trump is President, so he can issue the release of the Epstein docs on…Donald Trump. I mean, no one else will.
Btw, apparently they “Redacted” by just MS-Word “Blacking” the lines? So if they are cut-paste you can just see all the redactions again? Hilarious! 10/10 approve, my dudes in the DoJ, well done my faithful servant! Thankfully because the people are such pin-headed nincompoops the media is DIGGING and PUBLISHING, because they feverishly believe something about Trump is in it, which is why Trump released it, with non-redactions.
Man, is this the best Kayfabe with sugar-icing folding chairs or what? I wonder who they posted in the “Oops! Fake redaction parts…Congress…”? Trump: “I know I told you I had a deal to not release and incriminate all you guys but my people had a whoopsie! What can you do? Talk to them, not me. I did everything I could. You know how these gov’t guys just never follow my orders!”
“DOGE Delivers Massive $214 Billion In Taxpayer Savings… So Far
But I thought they did zero? One quarter of a TRILLION dollars = Zero. BothNeitherAiii.
What $210 Billion between friends?
“President Unveils ‘Trump Class’ Of Warships, Huntington Ingalls Shares Jump
I mean we probably need ships but have you solved the “Sitting Duck” problem?
Nice, but it costs, and it hurts. Luckily, like the gym, it’s worth it and lasts.
JPM Silver. Burns me they get to escape. However, what is the alternative, to get my fee-fees off? Collapse of the U.S. financial system? Well THAT’S not helpful. And our sharks may be evil, but they also had no choice, the entire system was infested and run from UN/WEF/Global. They needed protection to even THINK about acting. Which they eventually got. They were like, “Hey, IF we have a CBDC, AND total UBI Socialism, down to the finest level AND they destroy the U.S. economy, AND all the people are killed, wtf do you think you’re going to shark loans to and trade stocks? YOU will no longer HAVE a “Wall Street” and YOU, therefore, will all be poor, and Klaus will send you to the Siberian Uranium mines.” …Oh yeahh!
Wall Street was like: “These systems are NOT reversible. Everybody has tried everything over all time. WHAT do you think we should do, even if we WANTED, schmartz-guy?” Yes, debt-based fiat currency is a compounding end-game from the first minute, that can only collapse and be repudiated, along with its host nation. …Which is now the Planet. So give me an option. The Fed/White Hats said, “It’s now ‘08, WE bought you time, YOU make and install an option.” (PS don’t f– with us) And so they did, starting with I dunno, let’s say “Greenspan” working with the NSA to torque the CBDCs and create a free market version of Bitcoin. …Of Which we will come to be known, own half, that is, all Satoshi’s coins. US Gov, but not like you can admit it with Obama as Prez. Or admit it to the Krypto-Kidz since it will blow their “Stick it to da man!” schtick.
What that does is, they try a CV19, then they can’t force-install it because there’s always an alternative, however small or bad. They know all their force will leak out into “Blackmarket CBDCs” the 1,000 faces of crypto. Shut off the internet to stop it? Fine! Then you’ll shut off all your surveillance and cameras too, like at Brown. So they engineered a standoff. Neither side could hit the nuke button. Where after hours of game play somebody drops their 4x Uno card, then everyone ELSE drops their trump cards and the came is over in three moves. This held it so they (Obama) couldn’t do and install that.
In the meantime, Russia and China – and many other places – also built a far more conventional economic alternative. In no time at all, THAT was going to stay lit vs any crash on the Western Side. Maybe by 2014. Now, of course, all of them are wildly, deeply integrated. XRP alone can run banking and replace SWIFT, Wall St can cut off from Europe, or China, and already fire-walled Russia. But the WEF/Euro side needs ALL to collapse. It’s all or nothing. If THEY collapse – which mathematically they must – and someone else doesn’t, the money will go there. No Russia was ring fenced, but a lot of pressure, and very small apature to take that much capital. But that’s still enough to keep actual European, human values alive, and the UN/NWO have a beacon of NOT “Boot on the human face forever” that everyone will rally to, and whip them. That’s likewise China, which has some room, but is very full, and running capital controls, too far away to conquer. They lost this years ago, being very big, and their attempts to collapse it were laughable. However, China can’t Project back against the NWO very much either.
So what is this today? The U.S. lost the Silver – People’s – standard in the Gilded Age. In a few years they installed a (Gold) Central Bank. 1913 In a few more years that Central Bank had fully taken the U.S., then merged with the pan-Euro Blob, 1940, and the re-colonization of America was complete 1949-1963. That’s our last 100 years although we managed a few counter attacks. (Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan) This did a very few things each, vital things, but only slowed them down. But our guys needed to get off Europe, and off Gold, and get back to “The American System” that served us well. Of honest money (silver) tariffs, manufacturing, jobs. Not Rentier-class colonial extraction (Europe, London, British Empire). But at the worst time because of course every minute your enemy is occupying, they are dismantling you and installing themselves.
So they had a plan. SINCE the insiders wanted to rig all prices (and did for 100 years) AND remove “the People’s Money”, THEN, in a PushMe-PullU, we go ahead and LET them. In 1964. The Silver dollar and therefore Treasury Dollar was dead with JFK. They were alerted. So what if we go the other way and ERASE all silver? They want it that way, so what if there wasn’t any? I mean, that’s what you geniuses want, right?
So here we are today. Although the amounts of silver around are still truly titanic, there is roughly speaking no free silver to be had. That is, the amounts are high, you can fill cargo ships, but it’s needed everywhere, by everyone, for all the myriad different materials worldwide. GOLD you can outlaw like FDR: it has no purpose, so it’s not that big a deal. Then us rich inside Party Members use it, same as heroin bricks, to trade among ourselves. No major risk of displacing money. But tonns of silver HAVE to be everywhere, in every warehouse and manufacturing plant, then in every light switch and washing machine too. It’s common.
But it’s also in shortage.
So when THAT goes, now this tiny, irreversible pressure point, it will use its leverage to take out gold. And Platinum…and copper…and…. And become the new currency. The U.S. Revolutionary America, People’s Constitutional currency. Like 1789. That’s why it had to be ALLOWED to be destroyed this whole time, which was difficult to figure out and endure. Okay, soooo…?
So IF you want the U.S. to exist as a viable state, you can’t Nuke Wall Street. Then we’ll live in huts. Awful as they are, they DO something and permit modern life. Unless you want a collapse, you can only clean them up and reform them. Blow them up and London only wins as Capital flees there, you Libertarian Occupy idiots. BUT THE SYSTEM CAN’T BE FIXED. I just said, no one has ever fixed it before. Fraud ALWAYS multiplies. Runaway compound interest ALWAYS collapses. That means to save JPM, you need to get in collateral – Billions and billions and billions of collateral – right under London’s noses, WHILE they occupy you, WHILE they are also collapsed INSTEAD of you, and while they ALSO do not get rich thereby. So: Not Gold. Canada also has no gold. UK sold all their gold in “Brown’s Bottom”, remember? There wasn’t supposed to BE any gold, because it competes with CBDCs and just makes Russia and China super-rich and independent. But the Roths and all existing system, still have tons of gold in their castle (and CIA) basements. So THEY would become the new government “Who makes the rules.” No.
So JPM, claiming to CONTROL the system, contain the shorts, prevent a U.S. banking collapse like Bear had, took all these contracts and silver bars. …Then for 10, 20 years, CLOSED them. Methodically, like a machine. Then started stashing bars. Boring, one by one, grinding it out like Shawshank, over time. And was able to defend itself from collapse in Obama, in Covid, in Civil War, in printing $36 Trillion without sinking us.
Now they have the silver. I’d RATHER see them dead of course, but as a practical matter, I agree. I’ll just grind them on their fraud in paper on the flip side. They escape the hangman today. JPM then – and this will detonate the whole system, worldwide – then RESETS THE PRICE OF THEIR COLLATERAL, voluntarily, on command, just like FDR Reset the price of Gold in 1933.
Not only JPM – who can bail out anyone, so if with Treasury and Fed are all on the same page — AND THEY ARE — is IMPOSSIBLE to take out the U.S. system now – BUT also the U.S. government. Who may or may not have more silver bars right now, but as a nation is one of the most silver wealthy on earth. Just open the mines. We have the farming fields. We have the oil. No one needs to be poor, except for the European colonization of us, same as the Congo. Boom, U.S. deficit, debt, gone. No longer 200% or whatever, but 80%, 60%, overnight. We have the only remaining viable financial system, Europe does not, and has 400% Debt to GDP, properly accounted, AND a Civil War AND a massive, million-man hot land war. Where do you THINK the money will flow? Well it can’t to Russia and China, althoguh that’s fine, they’re just not constructed to absorb it.
Only here.
So there’s your JPM/Silver talk for today. Burns my bum, but that’s the best way out we can find, so if I have to crawl through a pipeline of s—t to make this country free again, I guess that’s what we’ll do unless you have some better idea. In the meantime, hope you own some. Prices look like $660/oz. But that’s before we reset gold, which mathematically could easily be $10-20,000.
Speaking of, AGAIN they were talking about the “dangers of Europe goign to war with Russia”. Cmon, and this was Luongo et all not like the Judge and Pepe Sachs retards. There IS a war in Europe, you fools. 2 MILLION men just died, maybe notice? Yet even the smart people get caught saying “Gee if we don’t look out a war might break out, a million men might be killed and something bad might happen.” Aiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!! Cue Carter, in Payback. “Look at me. I’m right here. What do you think I’M going to do to you?”
They talked about BRIICS currency? We have it. All the pipelines that make it run are turned on and scaled now, past tense, in Asia, as per Vince Lanzi. Their being full-scale now is hourly collapsing London, LBMA, and by extension Europe, as they can’t compete. NY, as we just demonstrated, is neutral. We’re not the epicenter, but remain trading, not collapsed. And we also have supply. The End. These are mathematical chess moves, just playing out.
Nothing but a nuclear world war will stop it, so Europe is doing that. As per the national security strategy, and everyone’s talk and positioning, there are three nations right now: US, China, and Russia. CAR. And as Luongo, Collum said yesterday, there are four nations and three of them hate Europe. Errr…let me think about that, I would like to dispute it, but maybe not. There is also “The Global South” whoever you add (India) or remove (Africa), but are not coherent and therefore not a player in the same sense. But there are three, four, powers on earth right now, THREE of them it would seem at this point are coordinating at a deep level: Russia, China, and Us. So YES, we had to coordinate with them on silver, both as a courtesy (it would be considered an attack) but we HAVE to, as without their coordinated strategy, they would dump silver, make money, and capitalize on it, which blows our re-set plans. Instead, we have all coordinated to help the reset along.
That doesn’t mean we’re not competitors. China I’m sure would LOVE to wreck the U.S., fill us with opium, steal our manufacturing, own our food, take over Venezuela, all that. Yeah, they’re a “Nation”: surprise. We do the same to them in pan-Asia. I don’t like it, but Whatever, we’re adults. But on the whole, it’s more the normal national vying for competition almost all modern nations since 1800 have displayed. So here is China moved forward wildly, being a major silver owner and producer? Yup. So they’ll coordinate with us to get fair commodity pricing! Yes! So will Russia. As I’ve said, every dollar up on Gold and Silver makes them rich and powerful. Makes London, Canada, poor AF. They live by setting FAKE prices. That’s “Financialization”. We’re trying to get off Financialization as it’s destroying us utterly since 1970, and back on being Productive. Which we are, a LOT. We are major oil, food, and honestly, high-end manufacturing producers, among many. Honest prices will HELP us, and save us. “Financialization” warps prices away from reality until they crack and fail. We are putting honest pricing BACK into the market, step by painful step. But we can do that because we’re productive and work.
DBS, there IS silver. Tons of it. Yes, deficit is a problem, but it’s been the same problem most of my life. (Since at least 1990) There are the needed tons sitting around India, because we have nothing but a transition problem to get our mines open. …And the rest of the world. Sure, WE will get rich, but there are shuttered silver mines, MASSIVE ones, from Hudson Bay to Terra del Fuego. All we need is 5 years to get them on. And price will cut the pointless unneeded uses of silver as well.
All these lists, like all statistics I’ve found, unf, are lies. They say “There is only 5 years of X” out there. No. The COMPANIES only have 5 years of forward capital to FIND 5 years. Give them more capital, and Canadian Junior Minors will drill baby drill and demonstrate we have 10 years in the ground. Give them more money, and they’ll prove out the existence of 20, and even build the access roads if you want. ALL the mines are shut. We only need a year or two to start getting them open: no problem at all.
Now at SOME level, do we have a problem as silver lives close the surface, and a lot has been mined and lost, unlike Platinum which is deep? Yes. But nowhere near today. If prices are $1k, then we’ll also recycle AF just like Platinum converters. This is not presently a viable problem, strictly a financial transition one. Silver is used everywhere, we can easily prioritize it.
“Pretty much everyone thinks that the US is still the biggest and most powerful geopolitical identity in the world BUT THIS IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE.”Agree. I want to throw up and reach through the screen to punch anyone who says – as they still do – “when America is supposed to be the richest, most powerful nation in the worldddddd!!!!!” Jesus H, man, we said that SARCASTICALLY in 1999. We didn’t believe it even then. Maybe we believed it last in like 1973, while still in ‘Nam. Get. A. Grip. NO ONE DOWN HERE BELIEVES THAT. There’s not one Cleetus or Jenny-Jo working at the DQ counter who thinks America is f’n rich. They don’t think America’s military has any power nor SHOULD be going anywhere. That’s something only pundits on TV say because Cleetus and JennyJo aren’t in the same room to slap the taste out of their mouth for saying something so dumb. …And they would gladly do so. Those pundits like Pepe and whoever don’t realize saying s—t like this puts them on the lamp pole list. It’s REALLY offensive.
As I’ve said, we’re definitely not “Weak” in the major sense of things. We could take Brazil with no problem, for instance, and Brazil is a major-major country. But we’re 1/10th, 1/20th, 1/50th of our former selves? It’s all we can do right now to keep ships afloat and do standard maintenance? Yes. Everyone’s a dummy, a a self-serving grifter, lazy AF? Yes. But most of these problems can be flipped overnight. And most of those are fixed with honest money which is going back in this very minute as we speak. It’s over, done deal, past tense. Silver is not going back to $14.
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No. Same as Silver and drilling out provable ore above. SOMEDAY this is possible. SOMEDAY we wonlt have energy. We are nowhere NEAR that date. We can make Thorium reactors in 5 years if we want to and have too MUCH energy, causing the heat-death of the earth (jk) instead. This is all a CHOICE. Okay, let’s say we double electric production AND have far better electric use with our new devices, think we can solve problems and buy time then? Of COURSE we can. So knock it off.
“You go to these NATO meetings and you meet with people, what they will tell you our shared history, our shared legacy, our shared values, our shared priorities. That’s what they talk about as the reason for this alliance,” Rubio said. “Well, if you erase your shared history, your shared culture, your shared ideology, your shared priorities, your shared principles, then what – then you just have a straight-up defense agreement. That’s all.”
Wow. Worth repeating. We fought WWII “For Democracy” for Free speech, etc against Hitler (Or Stalin, whatever) Aaaaaand when Europe are the most fascist, oppressive nations on the planet outside North Korea, we support you why? So we can support Nazis and Fascists? Who will rig our elections and shut off our newspapers? Vance said the same thing. And watch how they’re gunning for Vance again, they’re up to something. Shooting Trump again, but need to weaken Vance first?
“Remember: Macron still works for Rothschild Paris Bank” And Merz for BlackRock. They brought Fink into Ukr negotiations. Of course they went bananas about it, but since BlackRock owns Ukr, and we’re going to make them sign it away, they’re going to be involved somehow. Maybe not collapse yourself out of spite? Question is, if they’re in the same room, who is ordering who? Well, whichever one makes Orange Man Bad, of course! We just say that without looking or asking because it makes me feel warm and happy inside to make stuff up.
BTW, decisively losing the Russian theft may be a GOOD thing, in the biggest sense – Europe is still resisting fascism and suicide at some level – it’s also a bad thing they’re in this state. They made a gambit, lost, made a gambit to steal Ukraine, lost. Then a gambit to steal Russia, lost. Now a gambit to stay on the board with this power-move and Lost. Losing a high-stakes power move shows you got nothing, and is very bad short-term.
We all knew Europe – meaning the EU – was dead in 2002. They sucked, and when faced with referendums, doubled down on f—xxxing the people. No reform. That’s that, and it’s been unchanged since. They could have behaved normally, like Humans. They could not, and got harder and more violent every minute since until today where 30 ppl are arrested in UK daily for speech. All other nations are now refusing to deal with the EU and treating them like a local bowling club. As per Der Lyin’ landing in China and taking the city bus to the office. Trump and Putin are the same: dealing only with ACTUAL, NATIONAL leaders, dismal as they are. They have no army, no taxing power, so they don’t exist.
Trump battleships: Retarded AF.
Waymo: Retarded AF.
“Aliens live in Trump’s brain” Trump lives in your brain. You have no thoughts during the day that are not Trump. Trump is God. Everywhere, in everything.
Speaking of, lost the USSC case: can’t use military to back up Federal Buildings and people. I disagree on that pretty strongly, so I may have to read the case. Nevertheless, there we are. So you can just shoot Federal people and buildings now. We have no escalation to stop Soros if he pays. We’ll still win, but whut?
Obv calling in bounty hunters is a bad look and disapprove. Would stop. Even if necessary, I’m not sure it’s worth the appearance and harm, and I’m also nowhere convinced they are being directed toward good in the first place. But let’s say you had 2k literal armed terrorist and biolabs in the U.S., which is likely. You understand why you might want to expedite finding these guys by name even if it gives you a black eye? Okay, then: Show me. Like I’m from Missouri. If you need this, bloody well explain it in very tiny words or I’m going to say no, and should.
Luongo: gold-backed bonds. Put this all together. BRIICS is now a gold-settlement currency. That’s half the world there. Boom, bye. The U.S. is now WELDED IN to them, with a gold-Bond. We’re all on the same page: Honest money. You can’t have financial rentiers, colonialism with honest money and Voluntary trade. They die, which was Trump I inaugural address. So US-China-Russia are all on (we need to complete this Bond on our side but I can’t see how it could be stopped) and then that brings in the BRIICS, and by extension, the Global South.
THAT’S THE PLANET. That’s it. Outside Europe and the Anglos. We’re already crushing the Anglos and despite history-breaking pressure, the Anglos are already revolting and probably won. That needs to be played out, and is very ugly, but I can’t see how the English peoples would be put down at this point. Hey, Canada, you gonna stop fighting? I don’t think so. St. George sure isn’t, and Ireland is in the streets, so: “You’re F—ked.”
We are back on a 19th century gold standard. We’re just putting the icing on right now. As this plumbing is completed, we turn on the tap, and pressurize the system with 10x prices. Gold/Silver goes up, China/Russia power goes straight up. US, with gold bonds goes straight up. Aaaaand, that’s a wrap! See you in the break room and the afterparty.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
GET READY! CHANGES ARE COMING.
“BUT THE SYSTEM CAN’T BE FIXED.
I just said, no one has ever fixed it before.
Fraud ALWAYS multiplies.
Runaway compound interest ALWAYS collapses.”GREEN ZONES:
WILL HAVE ENOUGH ENERGY FOR THE OPERATION/SUSTAINING OF ITS SOCIAL/ECONOMIC/POLITICAL STRUCTURES.
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In nearly every western nation the citizens are more and more demanding their nation state leaders avoid war and not to spend taxpayer money on foreign activities or military things.
—————All Reserves have been Committed to Kostiantynivka And the Zaporizhzhia Aaxis
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———–Iran has shot down two F35s
The S500 detects F35s
Could it be that the Russians have shipped S500s to Iran?
If what this guy says about the silver market is true (and it seems to be based on officially recognized market numbers ) then we have officially arrived at officially announced duck-and-cover time.
It would be refreshing if ALL of the youtube analysts would just say The United States as the preminent global power has initiated World War III on multiple fronts in an effort to insure it’s plan to colonize the planet. Then grow a set and say, and we support them in this effort.
Creative Destruction worked so well in the US the time has come to employ the effort globally.
Demonizing the Democrats tactics is a fig leaf used by the current flavor, to hide the exact same plan. Destroy all existing order in preparation for The Rules Based Order.
Count on The Stockholm Syndrome to enlist the support of the masses.any band of scalliwags can have a democracy, only disciplined men of honor can create a system of law and equal protection thereunder
The US is #9 of the top 20 global silver producers. I guess the reindutrialization fairy will provide the capital to expand silver mining in the US, since the risk averse financial industry focuses on short term gains. from yesterday – “a matter of months”- get a grip
for me it is not a matter of what people used to believe or what they currently believe, but that which they still believe that produces an icee headache
calling on the name of Jesus on Christmas Eve for any purpose other than strengthening hope is just low caste.
China I’m sure would LOVE to wreck the U.S., fill us with opium, steal our manufacturing, …..
My wife is asking me what’s so funny?
The US treasury in the first week of the new year faces a 3 trillion dollar debt that no one wants to buy
The US treasury in the first week of the new year faces a 3 trillion dollar debt that no one wants to buy
I bid 3 cents.
They imply that Yanks need an attitude correction and
useful behaviour such as
. New Yanks = old ChinksPEACE ON EARTH
https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-reveals-20-point-peace-plan-draft-backed-by-ukraine-us/
Zelensky reveals full 20-point peace plan draft backed by Ukraine, US
December 24, 2025 10:00 amThe ceasefire is expected to start as soon as the agreement is signed. For the agreement to take effect it must be ratified by the Ukrainian parliament and/or supported by the people of Ukraine in a referendum that would take place potentially within 60 days.
1. The signatories affirm that Ukraine is a sovereign state.
2. The document constitutes a full and unquestionable non-aggression agreement between Russia and Ukraine. A monitoring mechanism will be set up to oversee the conflict line using satellite-based unmanned surveillance, ensuring early detection of violations.
3. Ukraine will receive security guarantees.
4. The size of Ukraine’s Armed Forces will remain at 800,000 personnel during peacetime.
5. The U.S., NATO, and European signatory states will provide Ukraine with “Article 5–like” guarantees. Following points apply:
A) If Russia invades Ukraine, a coordinated military response will be launched, and all global sanctions against Russia will be reinstated.
B) If Ukraine invades Russia or opens fire at Russian territory without provocation, the security guarantees will be considered void. If Russia opens fire on Ukraine, the security guarantees will come into effect.
C) The U.S. will receive compensation for providing security guarantees. (This provision has been removed.)
D) Previously signed bilateral security agreements between Ukraine and around 30 countries will remain in place.
6. Russia will formalize its non-aggression stance towards Europe and Ukraine in all necessary laws and documents, ratifying them by Russia’s State Duma.
7. Ukraine will become an EU member at a clearly designated time and will receive a short-term preferential access to the European market.
“As of today, the timing of Ukraine’s accession is a bilateral discussion between the United States and Ukraine, without European confirmation for now,” Zelensky said.
“Membership in the European Union is also our security guarantee, and therefore we want to set a date — when this will happen. For example, 2027 or 2028.”
8. Ukraine will receive a global development package, detailed in a separate agreement, covering various economic areas:
A) A development fund will be created for investing in fast-growing industries, including technology, data centers, and artificial intelligence.
B) The U.S. and U.S. companies will work with Ukraine to jointly invest in the restoration, modernization, and operation of Ukraine’s gas infrastructure, including pipelines and storage facilities.
C) Joint efforts will be made to rebuild war-torn areas, focusing on restoring and modernizing cities and residential neighborhoods.
D) Infrastructure development will be prioritized.
E) Extraction of minerals and natural resources will be expanded.
F) The World Bank will provide a special funding package to support the acceleration of these efforts.
G) A high-level working group will be established, including the appointment of a leading global financial expert as the prosperity administrator to oversee the implementation of the strategic recovery plan and future prosperity.
9. The creation of several funds to address the restoration of the Ukrainian economy, the reconstruction of damaged areas and regions, and humanitarian issues will be established. The aim is to mobilize $800 billion, the estimated cost of the damage from the Russian war.
10. Ukraine will accelerate the process of negotiating a free trade agreement with the U.S.
11. Ukraine reaffirms its commitment to remaining a non-nuclear state, in accordance with the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.
12. Control over the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant and the restoration of the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant.
Washington proposes that the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant be jointly operated by Ukraine, Russia, and the U.S., with each country controlling 33%, and the U.S. serving as the primary overseer of the station.
Ukraine opposes Russian control over the plant. Kyiv proposes that the plant be managed by a joint venture consisting of the U.S. and Ukraine, where 50% of the electricity generated will go to Ukrainian-controlled territories, while the U.S. determines the distribution of the other 50%.
“We believe that for all of this to take place and function safely, the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant, the city of Enerhodar, and the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant must be demilitarized, because at present there are Russian troops and war there, and there is no necessary level of security,” Zelensky said.
13. Ukraine and Russia will introduce school courses that promote understanding and tolerance of different cultures, fight racism and prejudice. Ukraine will approve EU rules on religious tolerance and minority language protection.
14. In Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson oblasts, the line of military positions on the date of signing will be recognized as the de facto front line.
A) To determine troop movements needed to end the war and set up potential “free economic zones,” with Russia withdrawing its troops from these areas.
B) Russia must withdraw its troops from occupied parts of Dnipropetrovsk, Mykolaiv, Sumy, and Kharkiv oblasts for the agreement to take effect.
C) International forces will be placed along the front line to monitor the agreement’s implementation.
D) The parties agree to follow the rules and obligations imposed by the 1949 Geneva Conventions and their additional protocols, including universal human rights.
“So we are in a situation where the Russians want us to withdraw from Donetsk Oblast, while the Americans are trying to find a way for us not to withdraw because we are against withdrawal,” Zelensky said.
“They are looking for a demilitarized zone or a free economic zone, meaning a format that could satisfy both sides. We consider a free economic zone a potential option for a sovereign state to choose such a path. We fought for a single word — ‘potential.’ We believe that such potential economic zones can exist,” he added.
“We are saying: if all regions are included and if we remain where we are, then we will reach an agreement. That is why it says ‘potential zones’ here. But if we do not agree to ‘remain where we are,’ there are two options: either the war continues, or something will have to be decided regarding all potential economic zones.”
15. Russia and Ukraine commit to refraining from using force to alter territorial arrangements and will resolve any disputes through diplomatic means.
16. Russia will not obstruct Ukraine’s use of the Dnipro River and the Black Sea for commercial purposes. A separate maritime agreement will ensure freedom of navigation and transport, with the Russian-occupied Kinburn Spit being demilitarized.
17. Establishment of a humanitarian committee that will ensure the following:
A) All-for-all prisoner exchange.
B) All detained civilians, including children and political prisoners, will be freed.
C) Actions will be taken to address the problems and alleviate the suffering of conflict victims.
18. Ukraine must hold presidential elections as soon as possible after the deal is signed.
19. The deal will be legally binding. Its implementation will be monitored by the Peace Council, chaired by U.S. President Donald Trump. Ukraine, Europe, NATO, Russia, and the U.S. will be part of this process. Violations will lead to sanctions.
20. The ceasefire will take effect immediately once all parties agree to the deal.
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