Debt Rattle October 3 2024
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October 3, 2024 at 10:21 am #170341
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Participant1. “The US should support Israel in its retaliation against Iran, even if it includes a preemptive strike, Donald Trump’s vice presidential pick, J.D. Vance, said during a televised debate on CBS News on Tuesday.”
2. “That was one of the most unbelievable hour and 45-minute television experiences I have seen in a long time… That was a pure joy to watch from beginning to end.”
“The very obvious top-line conclusions: The future of the Republican Party is JD Vance. That’s what the future looks like. Carlson3. Elon Musk: Few people in the West know what war really means.
“One of the things that does concern me is that there are very few people alive today who actually viscerally understand the horrors of war, at least in the US. How many people in the West understand it?….” Musk
J.D. Vance and Tucker Carlson are two who do not understand war. The poster boys for the future of The Republic.
4. “September marked the 23rd anniversary of al-Qaeda’s 2001 attacks on the United States, which left nearly 3,000 people dead……….Will the war on terror ever end?” Greenburg
the blood thirsty savages emanating from Western Europe will eventually put themselves down.
Just keep telling yourself, “Greed is good”, “Greed is good”, “Greed is good” and murder again in xenophobic delirium. “Might makes Right”, “Might makes Right”, “Might makes Right” until it doesn’t.nakba 2.0
ethnic cleansing of Occupied Palestine during the Iran-Israel war.“i have seen the enemy….” Walt Kelly
October 3, 2024 at 11:16 am #170342Dr. D
ParticipantNot as much to comment on today, all the things are happening, just as they were.
But since you brought it up, “• American Empire is Over – Charles Nenner (USAW)
Fantastic example of a Schmartz guy being stupid. Really stupid. Here, he’s Dutch, with endless connection in NY (he was a trader for decades) then decides to go to Israel, because the bombs are there, and he KNOWS the war cycle is on, and the bombs are coming there, and then WHEN the bombs fall at last, he leave his beach house and goes there, and sits in a bunker. Yay. Well, he is like 78, so like Trump, maybe he doesn’t care? Still, so you just…do nothing, do this? Okay man. Of your Jewry, where they adhere to their own people, same as the Poles adhere to Poland and fight for Poland, great I guess? I wouldn’t do it. Surely you can be more useful to mankind, or even to your narrow people, tribe, whatever they may be by doing something else.
Schmartz = Dumb. Like all the, all the, all the time now. I think it has to do with advertising and Bernays. Like the smarter you are, the better the hook and handle ad execs can build in you.
He also didn’t say anything in the interview. He says “I don’t know what’s going on.” So don’t ask him! Besides, this should be in his model, not him personally, which he doesn’t ask about. It’s like asking a hairdresser about plumbing or vice-versa.
Emhoff: since you brought it up, do you think it’s appropriate for a guy to be judged for his worst day? For one event in his whole life? That’s what we do now? Now we know he’s in S.F., he’s tight with Harris who he thinks is a good person, then knocked up the nanny. So now we’re developing a pattern. But it’s not one event. Besides:
What’s a “Woman”? If such a thing were to exist, they can’t be hit? But they can hit men? This is the same backhanded, “Believe all women” thing, BECAUSE they are women. Always. Because: born. Born to color, or gender, or parts, or whatever. No. And being old fashioned, yes, I hold to all chivalry of never hitting women, even when they deserve it, it would demonstrate a failure. But this is where we are now?
I’ll watch, but personally, let it go.
Put it this way: Emhoff is the scandal we care about, for not even damaging a grown adult, once. Harris rounded up Black children, sent them to prison when innocent, for the profits of donor corporations, so that they could profit from them in slavery, at direct work-camps and danger in wildfires, as well as be raped and abused in the prison system. Then when a Judge said “let them out, wtf” she said, “NO.” Compare. She is a literal slave captain, selling not even adults, war prisoners into slavery. Children. She has about 90 of these such crimes, including hiding evidence from all defendants. But this is okay, we forget because Emhoff – ho has no position nor will have one — got drunk once. I think that’s usually pled to a no-charge? While if you serially violate all human rights, for decades, for foreign money, should probably be a hanging? Compare. I’m sorry, I can’t get dumb enough to pay attention to it.
“• Prosecutors Seek Indefinite Delay In Trial of Alleged Trump Assassin (ZH)
Trump can make public the evidence after. (It IS public, it’s a Prosecution case).
“• 30 Million Immigrant-Invaders to Vote Against Trump (PCR)
I’ve been turning to PCR, who is so obviously wrong for so long, can it really be a coincidence? Him being 80 and thick-headed? Maybe. People do get like that. But suppose he were playing some 2nd or 3rd tier part, what would that be? Like the nonsense about “Iran” doing Trump, (OMG the stupid), it’s all transparent Bernays to round up a war of the Deplorables in service of Israel. Same here, so he now makes the Right look like neanderthal racists, while Trump is married to an immigrant with a Jewish family, Vance is married to an Indian, etc? His being dumb makes the whole Right look bad. And not like that was before, either, he’s really raised the flag and barricaded himself into it, while he used to do economic stuff and stick to his competency, casually remarking on the other.
No conclusions. Just saying.
“Part 3 in the Putin Surrender saga. After Helmer and PCR, here’s Gilbert Doctorow.”
So they are all filling that certain spot of controlled opposition? Knowing or unknowing? Advising idiotic stuff? Or is it that they can’t think outside Western paradigms? I sure can, so I don’t understand Wtf they got at. “Land war in Asia” seems super-simple to me.
“• Trump May Be More Of An Enemy To Zelensky Than Even Putin (Jay)
Hahaha. It still works! It still goes on! Trump was ALWAYS more of an enemy, and ALWAYS getting Ukraine ruined and handed to Russia. WHILE destroying Europe and BlackRock, the Nazi financial central bank, which is quite a feat. That’s why we sent them one bullet at a time, you dopes. We sent them all incompatible gear that makes them lose FASTER. And they STILL don’t notice? Well, I’ll keep doing it then. Same as cat laser.
““..his body language showed a lot of telltale signs of lying, such as fidgeting, touching his face and breathing rapidly.”
That’s because there’s never a minute he’s not lying. It’s not a crime to be nervous, this is a big deal. However, that IS the job description to talk to people, and he’s Governor, he’s talked to humans before and wasn’t just installed, right? Right???
Carlson likes Vance. Pool did the same. I’m indifferent. Does he DO anything? Show me, talk is cheap.
• Israel Free To Choose How It Retaliates Against Iran – Vance (RT)
Exactly. What is this s—t? Okay, greaaaaaat answer. Perfect. Now can you explain to me how all that is fine when they’re using MY money to do it all? All OUR bombs, that you couldn’t stop giving them? And The Pentagon now says they’re not sharing intel anymore. Oh wait: because OUR intel allowed you to target Nasrallah and blow up 10 city blocks, in which, just like Israel, exactly zero other people were killed? STFU. You stop that, AND get our bombs back, and I’ll accept your stupid answer. Hit the switch code on those F35s to brick them, and we can talk.
Taking this up – not that it matters – but say Nenner, who says “Hey if they keep sending rockets every week, what do you want us to do?” Great. Sure. I understand your perspective. I don’t want rockets flying in from Windsor to downtown Detroit either, if that happened, eventually we would have to do something too, even shell Ontario. One problem: how’s your strategy working out for ya? Is attacking, army, guns, all that, WORKING? Are there LESS rockets, and Northern Israel more safe? No? Then IDGAF, try something else. The definition of stupid is doing things that don’t work, over and over, not noticing. And it’s the Schmarty-schmartz people because they SHOULD work, so for 80 years they REALLY don’t notice. It’s not. And you’re all going to die. Good day sir.
“”War or the threat of war is raging everywhere, and the two incompetents running this country are leading us to the brink of World War III..”
Tough call: I disagree: they are VERY competent at bringing us all to total destruction and the brink of WWIII – you could even say destroying people is their core competency. However, they are still Incompetent at ACTUALLY causing WWIII or they would already. So…mixed feelings.
“• US ‘Helpless’ As Middle East Burns – Moscow (RT)
We’re not helpless: we CAUSED it. We were supremely active and capable at MAKING the Middle East burn. But Nazis only destroy, they don’t know how to build because that takes creativity, vision, and sensitivity, also to serve others. ….Says Ayn Rand (and don’t make Ayn Rand right).
Anyway, this is the Big Climax of the Global Death Cult…and climax it is, as they cream themselves. What a squib. God these guys are inept and boring. Worst. Armageddon. Ever. I want my money back. This looks like Fyre Festival, compared to what was advertised. I get one PB&J sandwich when I was promised a real Satanic orgy. (of violence).
Yeah, you blew up some folks, congratulations: nobody cares. It’s the CARING part that matters, to get them to internalize The Narrative™, that is the only way to get real power, and you got none. And that’s also YOUR fault: thanks to you attacking and erasing all religion, it’s not a “end of the world” Jesus-returns moment, full of emotion, as like only 10 guys still believe in Jesus. Nor for the Madhi. Nor for the New Age Maharishi, I forget that guy’s name, perhaps someone can remember from Blatavsky, etc. Nor anything else. It has no connection it doesn’t absorb us, we’re not even skeered about “The Day After” world-wide nuclear exchange. We’re just ignoring you because YOU’RE BORING. Coz: Ya Basic.
The End. So what if they called a war and nobody came? What if the guys who called the war had a s—t ton of weapons? Yeah, we’d still ignore them, and still not come, and they could kill us, but like Gandhi: so what? You need US to fight, or there IS no war. It’s just you being a dick.
Same with “nations”, ain’t nobody fighting for “nations” here, soldiers signing up by the thousands, France activating. It’s more like a pan-human war, Us against Them. Insiders vs Outsiders. Since they only exist by divide-and-conquer, what happens if we don’t divide, and focus our attention on THEM, and how THEY are killing US?
“’I Ain’t Got No Quarrel With The VietCong…” Cassius Clay said. Nor me neither. I got a beef with YOU.
“• Netanyahu Seeks to Drag US Into War With Iran – Ex-Italian Diplomat (Sp.)
Like this. Drag US into the war? Who is “US” though? We ain’t going. YOU can do that, YOU government, against our will and express direction. But then that makes YOU our enemy as much or more than Iran. Did you guys not think of this, when you worked as hard to kill nationalism as you did religion? Okay: you win. I’m not a nationalist, so I’m not dying for my country. GFY. Congress makes the call, I’m not going. What’s a “country”? What’s a “Woman”? You win. I concede your logic and definition on this.
As Benton says, the POINT is to get an edge, by, as JB says, just defining the terms, thinking we won’t respond, we’re just going to sit around and get f—d? No we are not. Our good nature and own internal belief can be stretched to an extent, but we really just allow it out of overall good graces and humor. At any point we can punch you instead – and will. This is part of that: “Oh religious! Oh national people! You Red deplorables! Oh gosh, look, Goering says you’re under attack and not patriotic, Iran, Iran, Russia, mmm, yeah…” Yeah, no. Bye.
To run a Con, you have to have a CON. That is, CONFIDENCE. You have to gain their Trust, then betray it. You can’t Betray it THEN run the Con, you nitwits. We were ALREADY betrayed. We ALREADY know who you are. You can’t NOW ask for money and support.
Jesus, like I have to explain this to you?
Well, good, I guess, if they were any good at this, we’d actually be in danger.
“…all the Israeli operations on the ground are influencing the balance of power in Lebanon, and trying to change the equation of power there..”
I don’t see any of that. I don’t see any change in foundational reality there by your adding a war, but I’m not a biologist on this.
“• The War on Terror 23 Years Later (Greenberg)
He’s missing this is a war on US, the United States. They are destroying America, the nation itself, but more critically, the IDEA, everything we stand for. That’s the only real war. And they’re still losing. We still won’t shut up, do what we’re told, get a passport, stop racing cars and blowing up fireworks for fun, or hand in our guns. So sad.
“• Guilty (CJ Hopkins)
I don’t understand. Do what they do, and just hold 5-10 more trials. Then stop when you’re ruled Innocent again, right? We hold trials, or elections, or bond auctions or whatever, until we get the results we want, then time stops!
October 3, 2024 at 11:35 am #170343Oroboros
Participant• American Empire is Over
Amen Brother
From Zerohedge:
Grid Apocalypse Hits Carolinas: 360 Substations Down, Power Restoration Could Take “Months”Not only did hurricane Helena destroy vast swaths of the southern power grid but many of the transformers needed to get it back up and running were sent to UKRONAZILAND to fix their power grid being dismantled by the Russians.
Hahahahahahaha
Doesn’t get much more ironic.
And Duh’merica can’t make the replacement transformers that fast, because some are made in China.
Hahahahahaaha
What a pathetic shitshow of a “country”.
In a recent video interview Dmitry Orlov gives the hilarious example of the Duh’merican bridge in Baltimore Harbor that got hit by a ship and destroyed.
He said in China, they would and could fix that bridge in TWO WEEKS.
In Duh’merica, no matter how much “money” they allocate to fixing it, it will take at least FIVE YEARS or longer and even like: never!
Orlov went on to bring up train de-railments in Duh’merica that are rising and running at about THREE A DAY as compared to Russia which has a much larger rail system and has ONE A YEAR.
Hahahahahaha!
Ya can’t fix stupid.
It’s Too Late Baby!
October 3, 2024 at 11:37 am #170344Oroboros
ParticipantOctober 3, 2024 at 12:00 pm #170345Oroboros
ParticipantThe Empire of Lies, Lies, Lies
Going out in a Blaze of Glory!Hahahahahaha
What a Ride!
October 3, 2024 at 12:01 pm #170346Oroboros
ParticipantHahahahaha
Start the day with a cheap laugh
October 3, 2024 at 12:04 pm #170347Oroboros
ParticipantOctober 3, 2024 at 12:11 pm #170348Oroboros
ParticipantOnly in the Empire of Lies would people be stupid enough to pay for Propaganda!
Hahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha!
CNN’S DESPERATE MOVE: PAY TO READ THEIR BIASED [shit] CONTENT?
CNN is now rolling out a paywall charging $3.99/month for access to its articles.
As TV revenue declines, they’re scrambling for digital dollars—asking readers to pay for the same content critics call biased and agenda-driven.
Is this CNN’s last-ditch effort to stay relevant in a media landscape that’s shifting away from cable?
October 3, 2024 at 12:13 pm #170349Oroboros
ParticipantOctober 3, 2024 at 12:18 pm #170350Oroboros
ParticipantDuh’merica just needs some good old fashion common sense from the Duke to fix it and get it’s house in order:
Ya, that’s the ticket!
October 3, 2024 at 12:22 pm #170351Oroboros
ParticipantFixing Kulture one sad song at a time….
And as role models go, well ladies…
It doesn’t get any better than this for girls and young women to aspire to…..
Leading us all into a Brighter Duh’merican Future…..
October 3, 2024 at 12:29 pm #170352Oroboros
ParticipantOctober 3, 2024 at 12:30 pm #170353Oroboros
ParticipantOctober 3, 2024 at 12:32 pm #170354Oroboros
ParticipantAnd on the cultural flip side of that gender coin…
October 3, 2024 at 12:33 pm #170355Oroboros
ParticipantOctober 3, 2024 at 12:36 pm #170356John Day
ParticipantCelia Farber found this: Pattern Recognition: Amanpour: “Are You Saying Hasan Nasrallah Agreed To A Ceasefire Just Moments Before He Was Assassinated?” Habib: “Yes. Yes.”
https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/pattern-recognition-amanpour-areOctober 3, 2024 at 12:47 pm #170357oxymoron
ParticipantThe dollar is not going to be the major currency. Nixon stopped backing it by gold, and Saudia Arabia stopped backing it by oil. It is not backed by anything. So, why would you trust the dollar?
I reckon that makes sense. Big cycles = big changes
October 3, 2024 at 1:03 pm #170358Oroboros
ParticipantOctober 3, 2024 at 1:03 pm #170359my parents said know
ParticipantSam Feist of CNN moved over to CSPAN as CEO in May of this year.
It shows. And it breaks my heart.
Today, they covered the brand new fiction of mr jack smith (that’s how badly Walz showed in the debate, I guess), which allowed them to run that hollywood shaky camera production of J6 over and over again.
Callers noticed the slant and the timing.October 3, 2024 at 1:07 pm #170360oxymoron
ParticipantEhmet the Bear is being psyopsed. He is used for profit and science and study – like most of us were for Pharma/DoD.
I don’t go for the feelings of ‘all one big happy family looking after each other’
He is in a cage
They are draining his blood
He complies.October 3, 2024 at 1:26 pm #170361zerosum
ParticipantThe threat to democracy, is the threat of censorship.
It’s too late.
It’s just the beginning.
It is a hopeless situation.
Yesterday is gone.
Lies are of zero consequence.
It’s ridiculous.
Secrets and lies.
Retaliation
Nobody knows how to fix the United States.”War or the threat of war is raging everywhere, and the two incompetents running this country are leading us to the brink of World War III,” said Trump.
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It’s an American WAR.
Trying to manage the balance of power
Netanyahu IS not Israel, anymore than Zelensky IS Ukraine.
Just stop supporting them.
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Opinions: Assembly of the facts available and overall interpretation.
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Bankers/investors are laughing all the way to the bank.
————October 3, 2024 at 1:31 pm #170362those darned kids
Participantj.d. vance is mike pence in a maga suit.
October 3, 2024 at 1:34 pm #170363Oroboros
ParticipantLongshoremen strike
OMG no TP!
Booga, booga, booga!
Panic buying at Costco
October 3, 2024 at 1:35 pm #170364aspnaz
ParticipantIs Diddy an Epstein Jew boy, funded by the USA via Mossad, to rape America’s children? Why would the Jews let a nigger rape children, the children they raped last week?
October 3, 2024 at 1:37 pm #170365aspnaz
ParticipantThe author of Kim Porter’s book has made a bombshell claim about Diddy’s tapes, stating they could take down Hollywood and the entire entertainment industry.
He disclosed that some of the tapes were secretly flown out of the country on a private jet, while numerous others still…
Diddy takes down Jew land? You think they will let a nigger bring them down, they would rather die raping.
October 3, 2024 at 1:40 pm #170366Oroboros
ParticipantThis Election Season Remember
October 3, 2024 at 1:40 pm #170367aspnaz
Participant“There’s a special place in hell for men who put hands on women.”
Looks like I am headed for hell, I have put my hands on my wife; American screams, just plain shite.
October 3, 2024 at 1:41 pm #170368aspnaz
ParticipantWhy are Americans so retarded, is it the persistent TV or are they just suboptimal in the IQ sense.
October 3, 2024 at 1:46 pm #170369Oroboros
ParticipantPhucked Up Kultural Priorities
A friend’s grandchild just graduated from a high end college at $200,000 for four years with an ‘art degree”
As my grandfather used to say, “With that and fifty cents, you can ride the trolley.”
October 3, 2024 at 1:57 pm #170370Oroboros
ParticipantFlash back photo from a friend
October 3, 2024 at 2:37 pm #170371userzeroid
ParticipantMC Wren was always my favourite member of the rap group N.W.A. His skills have improved over time!
October 3, 2024 at 2:41 pm #170372zerosum
ParticipantIn one night, the US used up the annIn one night, the US used up the annual production of SM-3 missiles.
Two US destroyers in the eastern Mediterranean launched TWELVE SM-3 ballistic missile interceptors today in a futile bid to stem the tide of a huge Iranian ballistic missile salvo.
You know how many SM-3 missiles the US produces each year?TWELVE.
— Will Schryver (imetatronink)
The cost of these 12 missiles in FY 2-24 was $432,824,000.
Compared to the previous year’s projections, the 2025 White House defense budget cuts previously planned procurement of SM-3 IB over the next five years from 153 to zero—saving $1.9 billion. However, these savings are not reinvested in SM-3 Block IIA production, of which quantities remain stagnant at 12 missiles annually over the next five years. (comptroller.defense.gov)
Posted by: Passerby | Oct 3 2024October 3, 2024 at 2:48 pm #170373Oroboros
ParticipantOctober 3, 2024 at 2:54 pm #170374phoenixvoice
ParticipantArizona and the 98,000 registered voters in limbo
Both sides sensationalize. This is something that actually makes sense, and the AZ Supreme Court ruled correctly. The 98,000 are ALL people who obtained an AZ drivers license before 1996 AND have renewed it since then. It does not include ANYONE who was not present in AZ and eligible for a drivers license before 1996. Therefore, this problem bears no relation the recent issue of the Biden/Harris letting immigrants in and inducing them to register to vote. Those immigrants may end up getting federal ballots in AZ (because the USSC forced AZ to permit this), but they won’t vote in local AZ elections.
The 98,000 need to comply with AZ law — but they must be given a grace period to bring their voter registration into compliance, and it is not appropriate to disenfranchise them in the upcoming election due to a clerical error.
Of course, since the 98,000 have been adults in AZ for over 30 years, there is a good chance that they may not be voting for Kamala Harris.October 3, 2024 at 2:59 pm #170375zerosum
Participanthttps://x.com/aussiecossack/status/1841851563398332696
Ukraine just launched 4 missiles at Russia’s Kursk Nuclear Power Plant! Russian authorities report no excess radiation detected. The situation is under control.October 3, 2024 at 3:01 pm #170376jb-hb
ParticipantI don’t get how the Republican candidates are not just doing the equivalent of throwing an opponent back and forth in a hexagon fight cage like a ragdoll. Practically every word coming out of the Dems’ mouths is good material. Examples.:
“I come from a middle class background”
Kamela, growing up, did your family have servants? A cook, a nanny, landscaper/gardener, anything like that? In your own life, have you had servants? Middle class people mow their own laws, do their own dishes. (I just have the strongest feeling she would get very evasive)
“Tariffs will be a TAX. It will raise prices on things”
America, look at where the Democrats have ended up. They’re just talking crazy at this point. We can’t bring back jobs to America because she prefers cheap Chinese goods? What do the working people of america BUY those goods with, with WHAT JOBS, Kamela? Americans making things in America is beyond unimaginable to these people. They are not just out of touch with Americans, but with reality.
“I’m going to raise taxes on corporations and make them pay their share”
Oh dear god. America. You see what’s happening here.
She turns from saying YOU cannot have working class jobs because it will raise the price of manufactured items only to turn around and say she’s going to tax corporations – which will pass through those costs to you through the goods you buy! WHILE sourcing those more-expensive products overseas!
She wants to raise prices at least as much, but WITHOUT Americans having jobs! And she announces this proudly, as if she is doing something really smart. She DOES NOT CARE about you, America. She doesn’t even have a grip on REALITY let alone what life is like for normal folks – or even cause and effect.
“Kamela is going to build 3 million new homes”
Didn’t I JUST mention in the last exchange, the 25 million illegals in the country? Kamela will bring in 10 million new illegal migrants, EASILY, during her administration if elected. More, if she can manage it. She’s ALREADY DONE IT in her CURRENT administration.
(looking into the camera) Who are those 3 million homes for? NOT YOU. Not you. A Kamela administration will be subsidizing TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal migrants.
Americans are NOT competing against illegal migrants for education, medical care, use of infrastructure, employment, or housing …ordinary working Americans are competing against the Federal Government.
Americans pay taxes and those taxes fund the migrants who then compete with those federal dollars for housing in america with working class americans. Or the Federal government goes into debt in Americans’ names to subsidize them. Or they print the money, inflating away working americans’ savings.
Oh holy #%#% Jesus christ on a pogo stick. The CURRENT Biden-Harris administration brought in 10 Million, the Democrats brought in at least 25 or 30 million. You want to bring in another 10 to 20 million or more if you can, and you’re going to build THREE MILLION HOMES? And I’m sure there’ll be no favoritism in who GETS those homes? California is subsidizing home purchases of migrants as opposed to americans, as well as education, various other things… hey, Kamela is from California isn’t she?
(Walz yammers, – 30 million illegals affect the housing market!?? PREPOSTEROUS!!!)
So are you saying “They’re living in the housing Americans don’t want to live in”?
Like, do you believe there’s some other plane of existence illegals pop into at the end of their shift or something? Like, you’ve got no grip on reality AT ALL??? Or are you saying there’s some sort of lower-tier housing not even fit for normal humans, but you’re for policies that perpetuate and EXPAND such a state of affairs??? OR will your response be something that implicitly admits you’re forcing working americans to compete with their own federal government’s enormous infinite financial pockets for homes?
Like, is there some agreement like “Okay, I will box you, but you have to make a secret agreement to not punch me directly in the face”?
October 3, 2024 at 3:18 pm #170377my parents said know
ParticipantFrom zh: “you” can live forever! (Well, not YOU, but some hyper-rich parasite with the ego to think he deserves to…)
Just throw this chit onto the balance of why they need to kill off a whole lotta people.
Look for auroras tomorrow night if the sky is clear.
October 3, 2024 at 3:24 pm #170378zerosum
ParticipantPriority should be Helene not war
Think about …
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/10/biden-is-pushing-israel-towards-larger-war.html#more
October 03, 2024
Biden Is Pushing Israel Towards Larger War
After being hit by some 200 Iranian missiles Israel has not yet dared to response to to the strike. It instead has launched new air attacks into the center of Beirut and its southern area known as Dahiyeh (which simply means suburb) with its predominantly Shia population.Israel seems to have forgotten what attacks on Dahiyeh mean:
Hizbullah asserts that it has established a new deterrence equation: an Israeli attack on the al-Dahieh neighborhood in Beirut will be met with a retaliatory strike on Tel Aviv.
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According to Hizbullah, the new equation established by Hassan Nasrallah is that any attack on Tel Aviv will be the response to Israeli actions taken in the al-Dahieh district in Beirut.
Hizbullah’s new leadership will certainly adhere to that doctrine.That Hizbullah has not been degraded by Israel’s strikes at is leadership could be seen by yesterday’s incursion attempts by the Israeli army into south Lebanon. Its special forces was immediately ambushed by Hizbullah forces. Eight of its soldiers were killed and many more wounded. Additional casualties were reported today.
Israel is now tempted to risk an all out war with Iran. There is little chance that such a war would achieve anything but an all out war in the Middle East, a rapid increase in oil prices and a severe hit on the Democratic chances in the ongoing election campaign.
Iran, who’s ballistic missiles had no problems in passing Israels air defenses, has threatened an all out attack on Israel’s infrastructure – electricity and gas installations as well as harbors – should Israel attempt to take revenge against Iran.
U.S. media still spreading the myth that the Biden administration is trying to hold back Israel.
The Washington Post for example headlines:
Biden works to limit conflict as Mideast edges closer to all-out war
However the piece admits that some views disagree strongly with its headline:
American officials say they are encouraging Israel to respond in a measured way, but U.S. allies in Europe are concerned that Washington is not putting sufficient pressure on the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. “Our understanding is the Americans are not holding them back,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive military matter.
Further down it comes to the heart of the issue:Biden has been unwilling to use the most significant source of U.S. leverage — conditioning or suspending military aid to Israel — to try to change the dynamics of the war, as Israel has repeatedly rebuffed U.S. advice and counsel.
Not for one moment has Biden tried to limit Israel’s ability to strike on its neighbors. A headline in the Times of Israel even proclaims that Biden is urging Israel to launch a new strike:Biden: US opposes Israel hitting Iran nuclear sites, response should be ‘proportional’
Speaking to reporters in Washington, Biden urged Israel to respond “proportionally” to the attack. Asked whether he backs a strike on Iranian nuclear sites, Biden responded: “The answer is no.”
Yves at Naked Capitalism correctly notes that:Biden’s Israel Policy Has Led Us to the Brink of War on Iran
Yves shows that its was U.S. treachery that preceded the Israeli attack on Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah:
We now learn that Nasrallah had agreed to the ceasefire shortly before he was assassinated and Israel or the US was affirmatively duplicitous, as if that comes as a surprise. Antiwar summarizes a CNN interview with the Lebanese foreign minister:
Lebanese Foreign Minister Abdallah Bou Habib has said that Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah agreed to a US and French-proposed 21-day ceasefire with Israel right before Israel killed him.
Habib said the US and France told Lebanon that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also agreed to the ceasefire proposal.
“They told us that Mr. Netanyahu agreed on this, and so we also got the agreement of Hezbollah on that. And, you know what happened since then,” Habib told CNN host Christiane Amanpour.
I would put my bet on the misrepresentation being US doing, to secure agreement from Hezbollah and then hope they could use that to browbeat Israel into what it would contend was a short pause. Recall that the US has presented ceasefire proposals as originating with Israel and later ‘fessed up that they came from Biden.
It was this ceasefire lie by the Biden administration that enabled the Israeli strike which then prompted the moderate Iranian president Masoud Pezeshkian to change his course. As I noted yesterday:
Pezeshkian noted rather bitterly that the order by the Israeli Prime Minister Natanyahoo to kill Nasrallah had been given from New York:
Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian says the international community will not forget that the order for Israel’s terrorist act to assassinate Secretary General of the Lebanese Hezbollah resistance movement Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah was issued from New York.
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In a message of condolences on Saturday, Pezeshkian said the United States cannot absolve itself of complicity with the Zionists in the terror attack against the Hezbollah chief.
The assassination of Nasrallah demonstrated that Pezeshkian’s politics of moderation had failed.After arriving back in Tehran Pezeshkian’s tone had changed: …
In a second point Yves presents evidence that the Iranian attack on Israel has caused significant damage and likely disabled significant parts of Israel’s F-35 fighter forces.
She then quotes a Code Pink piece which concludes:
Biden has been out of his depth throughout this crisis, relying on political instincts from an era when acting tough and blindly supporting Israel were politically safe positions for American politicians. Secretary of State Antony Blinken rose to power through the National Security Council and as a Senate staffer, not as a diplomat, riding Biden’s coat-tails into a senior position where he is as out of his depth as his boss.
Meanwhile, pro-Iran militia groups in Iraq warn that, if the U.S. joins in strikes on Iran, they will target U.S. bases in Iraq and the region.
So we are careening toward a catastrophic war with Iran, with no U.S. diplomatic leadership and only Trump and Harris waiting in the wings. As Trita Parsi wrote in Responsible Statecraft, “If U.S. service members find themselves in the line of fire in an expanding Iran-Israel conflict, it will be a direct result of this administration’s failure to use U.S. leverage to pursue America’s most core security interest here — avoiding war.”
The U.S. has many indefensible assets in the Middle East. Its troops in Iraq and Syria are few and in precarious positions. Its bases in the Gulf states have no defense against attacks from Iran and its navel forces in the Middle East lack the ability to refuel the fleet.
Should Israel be allowed to strike Iran the security of all U.S. forces in the Middle East, the energy infrastructure of the whole region and the global oil supplies will be in danger of imminent destruction.
It is hight time for someone to wake the White House up to those facts.
Posted by b on October 3, 2024
October 3, 2024 at 3:32 pm #170379jb-hb
Participant“Americans, when a Democrat administration brings in 10 million more illegal migrants and builds 3 million more homes, they’ve just subtracted 7 million homes from the housing market. This is the most simple math imaginable.”
“If you’ve got a grade school kid in your family – your daughter, your nephew, maybe a grandkid, ask them, they can tell you. Either Kamela can’t do the math or SHE CAN but she thinks YOU are too stupid, America.”
“And why would she talk to you like that, America? Poll after poll, decade after decade, Americans tell us they aren’t for massive illegal migration. Decade after decade the Democrats do it anyway. They’ve already made up their minds. They talk to you this way because they have no intention of listening. All you can do is decide if you want them in office doing this thing they want or not.”
When Walz talks about Climate Change being the Holy Truth, bring up all the rich Democrats on Martha’s Vineyard at sea level, living there for decades – special water for Dems vs everyone else?
Maybe rattle off a bunch of other memorized sea level estates owned by prominent democrats. Dems that engage in massive CO2 creation, private jets, limos, etc… Want to pull my other leg, asshole?
Then work in the migrants being kicked out of Martha’s Vinyard for good measure.
Seriously. How fucking hard is it? Easy. Ridiculously easy.
October 3, 2024 at 3:39 pm #170383John Day
ParticipantBusy As The Devil https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/busy-as-the-devil
Will Zoll, When Decades Happen – Part 1
Revolutions destroy nations, including their laws. Post revolution, if these nations could be placed into UN Territory Trusts, their sovereignty and right to govern could be replaced by administrators, whereby international law could be permanently installed.
The UN already has the agenda, think tanks, and legislative ability for one-world global governance. The WEF already has the councils ready for a “global future”. The corporate army, we term ReichsWEF, already have a monopoly on most of the world’s supply chains and resources, and the globalist executives to employ and deploy labor around the world.
All that is needed is the collapse of nation states around the world, and the “UN Territory Trust” could gobble up most of the Western world, ushering in a New World Order.
For that to happen, there would need to be some kind of worldwide revolution...
..When the French Revolution destroyed the powerful French monarch seemingly overnight, a venomous new set of data points were revealed. If revolutionary theory could explain how a nation’s citizenry could turn on itself and tear down everything in an instant, empires could be destroyed from within. Revolution could become the most potent weapon in an army’s arsenal. Harnessing the power of the people to destroy their own culture was a megalomaniac’s utopian fantasy…
..There have been many revolutions since the French experiment and 1848. Lenin and the Russian revolution of 1917. The German revolution of 1918. Mao and the birth of the CCP. Castro, Pol Pot, and many more.
To borrow another phrase from Kamala, if we “look through the passage of time”, we can see that each revolution becomes more sophisticated. Similar to the evolution of any weapon, the power of Marxist-based revolutions improves with the passage of time.
Today, the “woke mind virus” is exceptionally powerful, and it is being deployed all over the world...
..We are entering a period when decades happen. If nation states are going to fall to Marxist-style revolutions, they will be without governance, laws, or sovereignty. Like Papua New Guinea after WWII, the UN will be there to guide them into their “mandated Territory Trusts”, and the World Economic Forum will be at the ready to administrate the daylights out of us...
..The primary driver of the Enlightenment was for man to observe the world around him; for him to question and dare to think. Today, around the world, we have two-tiered justice systems, the weaponization of justice, rampant inflation, crime, and a flood of migration that has never been seen before. The globalist media apparatus nonchalantly describe these events as the result of climate change, and our politicians have vowed to eliminate xenophobia and hate speech.
..If we question WTF is going on here, we arrive at a rather uncomfortable hypothesis; that we are on the verge of a globally coordinated Marxist revolution, orchestrated by the UN and administrated by member-corporations of the ReichsWEF. The woke mind-virus has already infected large swathes of Western civilization, and if we do not pay attention to what is transpiring, humanity will surely once again learn from history that which was not learned from history.
https://prussiagate.substack.com/p/when-decades-happen-part-i The Shocking Doomsday Maps Of The World And The Billionaire Escape Plans Revisited – In Light Of Weather And Other Warfare Events, Ana Maria Mihalcea, MD
I am certain by now that most readers understand that we do not have any natural weather on Earth left. What we have been seeing with Hurricane Helene, the inundation in Dubai, the earth Quake in Turkey, the fires in Maui is US military warfare against its civilian population. https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/the-shocking-doomsday-maps-of-the Celia Farber: Dr. Chris Martenson Reveals A PM Alleging Gov. Officials In Town Hall Told Residents Of Chimney Rock They No Longer Own Their Land; Witness With 10 Years Experience Of Storms Reveals Hidden Contracts
”They’re Not Picking Up The Bodies. They Don’t Want To Identify The Bodies.” This Post Contains Three Witness Testimonies, The First One Is Anonymous, The Other Two Are Not https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/dr-chris-martenson-reveals-a-pm-alleging Alex Krainer, yesterday 10/2/24, Iran missile attack: what we learned last night. Mindless march to World War 3 may have hit a brick wall yesterday
Iran unleashed their operation “True Promise 2,” launching between 200 and 400 ballistic missiles into Israel. As the video footage coming from Israel has shown, many of these missiles reached their targets inflicting extensive damage on the ground. Apparently, some offshore gas platforms were also struck. Claims and counterclaims are a bit all over the place at the moment: Israelis have claimed that the Iranian attack failed and that most of the missiles were intercepted. Netanyahu’s aide Hananya Naftali even tweeted a “BRAVO” to Israel’s aerial defence systems for intercepting “nearly all the missiles.”
But the footage from last night gives a very different impression; it corroborates those who claimed that many missiles hit their targets. A few of the videos also confirm that the Iranians do indeed possess hypersonic missiles…
..Hypersonic missiles can’t be intercepted. The most advanced Western air defence systems can shoot down incoming projectiles flying at up to mach 3. So far as the Patriot Missiles are concerned, their success rate is very poor even at that. Nothing in Western powers’ arsenal can defend against hypersonic missiles and this certainly got the Pentagon’s attention. The implication is that all US Navy assets and military bases in the Middle East are defenceless, and that Iran has the capability to strike them.
During yesterday’s attack, two U.S. destroyers in the eastern Mediterranean launched twelve SM-3 ballistic missile interceptor rockets, their most advanced air defence system. The problem is that the current production rate of SM-3s is down to zero! Thus, even if SM-3s are effective, Western air defence systems are not for the long haul and will deplete rapidly in case of further escalation…
..Certain political factions in Israel and in the West have been working overtime to provoke a major war and draw in both Iran and the United States. Some of the pro-Israel voices are utterly rapturous about the prospect; the things they say sound utterly deranged and surreal. It’s as though they convinced themselves that Israel is somehow endowed with superpowers and that it can instantly turn anyone they wish into a smoldering heap of ashes. They also seem to think that by killing Hassan Nasrallah, Israel eliminated Hezbollah. They ignore the fact that Hezbollah is a very extensive military and political organization. If the Israelis bombed the Vatican tomorrow and killed the pope, that wouldn’t be the end of Catholic Church.
Indeed, very childish and dangerous delusions gripped the most fanatical cohort of Israel supporters and saner heads must by now be aware of the extremely reckless adventure they’re dragging us all into. If a wider war erupts, all of US, UK and NATO assets in the Middle East are sitting ducks and will be destroyed or expelled from the region.
Furthermore, an interruption of crude oil traffic from the Persian Gulf would inflict a devastating blow to G7 economies at a time when they least need it. In addition, all of this could be hitting the proverbial fan just ahead of the elections, and they haven’t even managed to assassinate Trump yet! It is all reckless in the extreme; the odds of victory (which is yet to be defined) are slim to none, while a cataclysmic failure is nearly certain.
I may be succumbing to wishful thinking myself, but I believe that we will shortly see leaders in the West pull hard on the handbrake and effect the quickest 180 degree turn yet! In the end, perhaps they will arrive at the calculation that sacrificing Benjamin Netanyahu and allowing Israel a break so they can sober up and reassess their predicament is a much better deal than following the unhinged fanatics and committing a collective suicide. We’ll know soon enough. Who knows, maybe we can avoid World War 3. https://alexkrainer.substack.com/p/iran-missile-attack-what-we-learned -
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