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  • #196245
    jb-hb
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    So we go from “Hitler!” to “Tyranny!” back to “Fascism!” alternating with “Tyranny!” (with occasional “Wholesale!” …but doesn’t that actually sound kind of like “wholesome?”) and all it means is Witches Brew, Outcast Unclean, Ick.

    Words mean things – for non leftists, that is. For leftists, there’s just a river of undifferentiated sludge accessed by multiple – in and of themselves meaningless – access points – trigger words.

    #196246
    TAE Summary
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    A Tale of Two Charlie Kirks

    * He was the best of men, he was the worst of men, he was purveyor of wisdom, he was the purveyor of foolishness, he was a beacon of belief, he was a beacon of incredulity, he was the preacher of light, he was the preacher of darkness, he was the bringer of hope, he was the bringer of despair

    * Charlie Kirk from the Right
    – He went to universities and engaged young students, insisting on factual support for ideas
    – He brought millions of youth into political engagement
    – He was respectful and wanted the best for his opponents
    – He was a Christian who was not shy about proclaiming his faith
    – He was a friend of Israel and supported them
    – He was persuasively pro-life
    – He was against war
    – He claimed America needed to maintain a Christian majority to be great
    – He had no formal education
    – He was a big supporter of Donald Trump
    – He could have been president one day
    – He sacrificed his life for his cause
    – He was killed by the left because he spoke the truth
    – He deserves special remembrance
    – He was welcomed into heaven by Jesus

    * Charlie Kirk from the Left
    – He went to universities and intimidated young students; He called universities islands of totalitarianism
    – He was a polarizing influence
    – He was a racist
    — He often quoted anti-black, cherry-picked statistics
    — He called George Floyd a scumbag
    — He was critical of affirmative action
    — He claimed some people get “picked” for their positions because of their race
    — He said he would be leery of flying on an airplane with a black pilot
    — He thought the civil rights act was a mistake
    – He was critical of Muslims and said “Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America”
    – He was critical of transgender people
    – He was anti-Semitic and claimed Jews control the news and Hollywood and hate whites
    – He was a bully in high school and nearly drove another student to suicide
    – He said gun deaths are worth it so we can have armed citizens
    – He compared abortion to the holocaust
    – He was a paid shill for Israel and had the blood of Palestinian children on his hands
    – He thought Paul Pelosi’s attacker should be bailed out of prison
    – He claimed America needed to maintain a Christian majority to be great
    – He had no formal education
    – He called ranked choice voting rigged
    – He thought empathy was a made up word and causes damage
    – He hated his opponents
    – He was a big supporter of Donald Trump
    – He might have been president one day
    – He was killed by the right and his death is being used as an excuse for attacking free speech and to implement totalitarian control
    – He doesn’t deserve special remembrance
    – If there is a hell he surely went there

    #196247
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Speaking of tired.

    More than one smart person, sorry not you miker has taken note we’re, Society is overrun by Cluster Bs, psychopaths and malignant Narcissists but they’ve also added the Schizoid megalomaniacs of the IT Age, accurately and appropriately.

    5% is all it takes to inoculate The Herd as in brainwash a population to a Con, Fraud, Scheme .
    So yeah, useless stuff.

    #196248
    Dora
    Participant

    @ phoenix voice

    ” Prior to DEI, it could be presumed that, for example, a black pilot or a female pilot was likely more qualified than the average white male pilot, as the individual had to not only prove merit but also overcome implicit biases in order to obtain the position of pilot. ”

    I wonder if DEI is the new spelling for CIA? Chaos creators.

    #196249
    those darned kids
    Participant

    you missed the third tale: mr kirk was just another victim of the gaza genocide. it is very difficult for the blind to negotiate a minefield.

    #196250
    WES
    Participant

    Defending the US Dollar:

    Trump seems to have pivoted to protecting the US dollar’s world reserve currency status.
    (Well, at least amoung it’s vassel countries.)
    Yet Trump wants lower Fed interest rates.

    Gold has concluded that the Fed has decided to let US inflation run.

    It now takes over $3,700 US dollars to buy an ounce of gold.
    It takes over $5,000 Canadian, Australian, New Zealand dollars to buy an ounce of gold.

    Gold ain’tgoing up!
    It’s your paper dollars going down!

    You need to get a bigger wheelbarrow to carry all your worth less paper dollars!

    #196251
    Dora
    Participant

    BlackRock , the world’s largest asset management company — they own significant shares of almost every publicly traded company — and it leader Larry Fink were one of the earliest and strongest pushers of DEI; companies that ignored the new demands from BlackRock would find their shares bought less and their market value reduced. Except, it didn’t work. Or maybe it did work. Take the case of BudLite beer and the Dylan Mulvany ads. People stopped buying the beer. Share prices dropped precipitately. BudLite brand owner got rid of Mulvany and the ad manager that pushed it. Then Bill Gates or the Gates Foundation bought the shares for a song, I read. Now BudLite shares are back up in price. Someone or many someones made a lot of money from that DEI psyop, in my opinion. Da boys in da club did well. The public, not so much. Now the public has turned against the psyop.
    And just like that, BlackRock says they’re dropping DEI since Trump made it impossible to make money from by threatening companies for failure to implement.
    https://fortune.com/2025/02/28/blackrock-diversity-dei-new-team/

    #196252
    Dora
    Participant
    #196253
    chooch
    Participant

    I am gobsmacked. This hit YouTube a couple hours ago.

    Followed by this

    #196254
    WES
    Participant

    CK:

    Clearly it was a professional hit.

    Right now the narrative engineers are trying to direct the narrative towards their desired outcome.

    The FBI’s silence to me simply means they are playing for time, waiting until they see where the actual narrative falls, so they can be seen to be on the right side of the narrative.

    Truth!
    What is that?

    #196255
    chooch
    Participant

    Not sure how intentional incompetence gets on the correct side.

    #196256
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #196257
    aspnaz
    Participant

    John Day said

    I do not think CK was wearing a protective vest under his white t-shirt because in the video of him throwing MAGA hats into the crowd for 5 minutes one can clearly see his muscles and fat bulges moving naturally under the almost-tight cotton garment.

    I have not seen those videos, but that rules out the vest theory and also the theory that the bullet deflected off the vest.

    As for remotely operated guns, I was thinking something smaller, something like the gun mounted to this drone … https://armourersbench.com/2024/09/13/russian-recoilless-gun-drone/

    #196258
    aspnaz
    Participant

    jb-hb said

    So we go from “Hitler!” to “Tyranny!” back to “Fascism!” alternating with “Tyranny!” (with occasional “Wholesale!” …but doesn’t that actually sound kind of like “wholesome?”) and all it means is Witches Brew, Outcast Unclean, Ick.

    Your precious right wing includes a whole heap of Zionist evangelicals who voted for Trump. They are supporting the single event that will last in historical memory as the last act of the USA empire; the Gaza genocide. Historically nobody will care about Charlie Kirk, will not care about trannies, will not care about DEI or any of those distractions, but your genocide will go down in history. You can pretend that this does not matter, but the ability for humans to treat other humans with contempt always lasts in peoples’ minds because people in the future will ask themselves “how could they possibly do that?”.

    Meanwhile you keep on telling us that the “left” is the problem. In reality, groups like “antifa”, the terrorist group, were created and funded by Soros. They could not organise a pissup in a brewery, so without Soros and his helpers they would never have gotten off the ground, and even then many were later accused of robbing the antifa piggy bank. You see it as antifa, I see it as a bunch of people paid to cause trouble, actually allowed to cause trouble, but the people creating this were the billionaires, not the students or uselful idiots on your “left”.

    I know you keep doing what you accuse others of doing, avoid the discussion of the real issues, instead shouting out about how nobody will discuss anything with you. Well, I have been shouting at you for some time now, and like AFKTT, you choose to avoid the discussion and instead preach on.

    #196259
    aspnaz
    Participant

    TAE Summary avoiding the Gaza issue, it seems like diesase among the right wing “good people”; they ignore the biggest crime of their lifetimes, being commintted by their own political group. Let’s play pretend.

    #196260
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Only the west’s Jews would label “Gaza” as a far left issue. The “morally upstanding decent people” on jb-hb’s right wing, the ones who boast of having high moral standards, are 100% complicit in every murder in Gaza, led by the Orange Jew, and now cry over the loss of one of the biggest supporters of the genocide. Gaza shows us that the right wing is just as morally bankrupt as anyone you will find on the left; what is worse is that the right wing claim to be the good people, traditional values etc. They are as mentally retarded as any trannie you will find on the left wing; there is no difference, all sides are in the moral sewer.

    #196261
    aspnaz
    Participant

    And the right wing are against “group punishment”, because that is the moral high ground, while at the same time meting out “group punishment” to the Gazans. So fucked, such slime balls, such lying scum.

    At least a majority of the youth of America recognise a genocide when they see one, so maybe the country will recover in a few generations when the alt right wankers are all dead.

    #196262
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @aspnaz

    I know you keep doing what you accuse others of doing, avoid the discussion of the real issues, instead shouting out about how nobody will discuss anything with you. Well, I have been shouting at you for some time now, and like AFKTT, you choose to avoid the discussion and instead preach on.

    I would love to talk about it. Let’s talk.

    Let’s talk FIRST about why you’re preaching to your moral inferiors while sitting on your lily white ass just exactly the same way that you chastise everyone else for.

    I call that hypocrisy, but maybe you’ve got another word for it. Like, liar perhaps, or traitor. Certainly not hero or saint, elsewise you would be over there in Gaza doing something instead of just running your mouth.

    #196263
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #196264
    aspnaz
    Participant

    D Benton Smith

    @aspnaz

    I know you keep doing what you accuse others of doing, avoid the discussion of the real issues, instead shouting out about how nobody will discuss anything with you. Well, I have been shouting at you for some time now, and like AFKTT, you choose to avoid the discussion and instead preach on.

    I would love to talk about it. Let’s talk.

    First DBS, I would like to thank you for thinking about me constantly, your comments are almost always about me, you provide me with free lodging in your brain, and you flatter me too much.

    As usual DBS, you don’t want to admit that I am your new god, so you just insult me. Maybe you think you are being naughty by thinking of me as your god, so you insult me to try to persuade your catholic god that he is still number one. Thanks DBS, very flattering and you know your insults are not going to hurt me.

    Howeverm I usually ignore you because you have nothing of value to say, just look at your last comment, how did you further the discussion? You didn’t. Maybe that is why your catholic god ignores you when you pray to him, maybe he thinks “not this jerk again”.

    #196265
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “you would be over there in Gaza doing something”

    when people say that, i always wonder ¿how?

    will i fly into ben gurion airport and tell them my plans?

    maybe i could go in through one of hamas’ tunnels. i bet they’d be thrilled to see me there.

    will i swim in from the mediterranean? i hear the jellyfish are bad this year.

    i suppose i’ll need weapons for “doing something”. shall i get them before or after i go? can i go to hertz rent-a-tank?

    i don’t even have a credit card, let alone a tank license!

    face it, there are approximately 15 people on this planet who could actually go to gaza and “do something”.

    and they do nothing.

    #196266
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @aspnaz

    I’m not buying the ploy. Your stale crap is even less distracting than your new crap. In other words, not worthy of reply. Here are your four basic choices:

    1) continue the bullshit charade of pretending to be what you are not, and just become more visible as a feckless troll with every post. This is the most likely, because, hey, what else have you got going for you other than DECEIT, and the need for some dishonest income.

    2) Answer honestly, with the truth about who you are and who you work for. This is far less likely because if you admit to the truth then it’s just game over, and no one is going to pay much further attention to a self-confessed liar.

    3) Respond intelligibly by answering the damn question. This is a long shot, admittedly, but if you honestly debated (instead of regressing into the ridiculous persona of the bad old original @aspnaz) it stands a chance of surprising everyone enough to buy yourself some time and maybe even a little cred. But, like I said, not very likely.

    4) Get humiliated every time you spar with me, which will always and only be at the time of my choosing, and never yours.

    By the way, what makes you think I’m Catholic?

    #196267
    chooch
    Participant

    Even Alex Jones is trying to get ahead of narrative, claiming he has New Details of Why the 30.06 Bullet Did Not Pass All the Way Through Kirk’s According to the Surgeon Who Examined Kirk’s Body.

    Bullet? What Bullet?

    […] The university has worked quickly to clear the grassy area of crime tape where Kirk’s “American Comeback Tour” tent had stood in the campus courtyard. Soil was being removed for the installation of new pavers near the spot where Kirk had answered a question about mass shootings when he was shot and killed.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/utah-valley-university-begins-to-reopen-after-charlie-kirk-killing/ar-AA1MzM9z

    #196268
    those darned kids
    Participant
    #196269
    aspnaz
    Participant

    D Benton Smith said

    @aspnaz

    I’m not buying the ploy. Your stale crap is even less distracting than your new crap. In other words, not worthy of reply. Here are your four basic choices:

    Know your place worshipper. Is this how you used to speak to your old cathoic god, the one who ignores you? No wonder you latched onto me like a leech who hasn’t fed for years. Here is your choice; keep me as your god or go back to the silent catholic god, but if you keep me, you have to behave and know your place.

    How many of your comments today have been about me? I think you need to stop praying to me and go do the dishes.

    #196270
    aspnaz
    Participant

    those darned kids said

    “you would be over there in Gaza doing something”

    when people say that, i always wonder ¿how?

    Looks like DBS wants me, over here in China, to go clear up his shit for him. DBS must have been one of those kids who said to his parents “if you really wanted my room tidy you would be in there doing it yourself”? I wonder how that worked out for him.

    Now he wants people in China to go and fix the mass murder being done by his own country folk, and cheered on by his president, by the political wing that he supports. In reality he just “says” he wants the Chinese to do that so that he doesn’t have to get off the sofa; maybe he likes the genocide, he gives me shit for telling others that the genocide is incompatible with being moral, decent people.

    DBS is not asking for help him sort it out, he is asking for someone else to sort it out for him, knowing that that is too big an ask, so he can continue watching the violence porn that comes out of Israel. Above that, he wants to be able to shout abuse at the people in China who tell him he should not be doing this.

    American Christians, the world would be a happier and more peaceful place without them. You lot voted in Trump knowing that this would happen, now you lot mourn CK who was also a gencide cheer leader.

    #196271
    those darned kids
    Participant

    people may think they voted mr trump in, but he was installed.

    anyhoo, stop bickering. we’ve got psychopaths to round up!

    #196272
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @aspnaz.

    Congrats. You came up with a fifth choice, and one that I must admit I had not anticipated. You started acting like a normal human being with a serious (but probably non-fatal) case of embarrassment. Nattering to the neighbors isn’t great, but it’s a start. Maybe after the nasty little Empire collapses we can actually talk with one another.

    #196273
    aspnaz
    Participant

    D Benton Smith said

    Maybe after the nasty little Empire collapses we can actually talk with one another.

    Know your place. Go do the dishes.

    #196274
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @aspnaz

    And then again, maybe not, because one of the prerequisites to you and I having a real conversation is that you not actually enjoy the fatal feeling of safety that you are enjoying from being insane. And you seem to be having such a good time.

    #196279
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Sure, except that’s actually false. That’s not what the Right believes.

    This is 101, to “Group Guilt” and “Collective Punishment” you just was wrong. YOU just said so, not me. I’m just following you.

    So only the United States has any responsibility, and only the Right. How convenient that China, Taiwan, or any of your former host countries can’t be arsed to do anything, but thanks to collective guilt only ONE country, people, and Party will be punished for it!

    Egypt and Jordan have auto-machine guns every bit as hard as Israel or they would have already fled there. They are not responsible. When they kill Gazans at the border, it’s the GOOD killings. Turkey has the largest army in the area, and the largest army, period, outscaling ours by 50x and talks every day about Gaza. And?

    When they refuse to lift a finger and sell Israel oil and anything they want without pause, that’s the GOOD helping of Israel, unlike when UK does it. Or US.

    And all comments are diverted AWAY from facts and back into Ad Hominem attacks. Precisely. That’s how you know its both fake and agitation. And every breath of it helps Israel, ultimately, while claiming to be the victim, in the moral right.

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