Debt Rattle September 28 2025

 

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  • #196562
    Red
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    “msm-says-it-knows-what-hegseths-mystery-meeting-hundreds-generals-all-about”

    …and then proceeds to say nothing of the sort.

    #196563
    aspnaz
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    100% tarrifs on generic drugs …. wow, the orange Jew really knows how to sqeeze the zit, the zit of the plebs that exist in america. He squeezed them using his great invention, the Covid-death-vax, he is now going to squeeze every diabetic, every ADHD kid, every other one of his voters for moar money; you would think it was time for the zit to burst, but not in america, they have the greatest democracy in the world. The orange Jew is not on your side, have you worked this out yet?

    Americans accepted tarrifs and believed that it was damaging the Chinese, when really it is damaging the small business importers in the USA …. it is a tax, even Trump cannot tax the Chinese. He created the death vax and a disappointing majority took that potion from him, some have died already, many more are dying, and many, many more will die in the future. Now he is targeting the stuff that poor people use to get around the corrupt government laws and selective lack of enforcement in the USA. Ahh, you still happy you voted Trump?

    My favourite day in the future is going to be when someone, hopefully a jb-hb-hated leftie, blows Trumps brains out. If he takes out Trump’s family at the same time; blessings from heaven. But, in the end, there are a fuck load of Trumps waiting to take over. There is JD Vance. Ummmm, maybe we are better off with Trump, maybe he is the more honest traitor.

    #196564
    Topcat
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    “Elon Musk has figured out the Soros Giant Graft Machine ” GGM

    So why doesn’t Karma take the Soros mafia off the Board of Life?

    Does he have better security than Charlie Kirk?

    And take his evil little Satanic spawn Alex while your at it Karma-karma-karma Kameleon.

    #196565
    Topcat
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    #196566
    aspnaz
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    Trump is not just not keeping his promises, he is actively turning on his voters. Yes, turning on the people who voted for him, the traditional americans with countryside and traditional family values. This is worse than just a lying turd of a politician, he is actively making the lives of his voters harder. He does not give a damn about the midterms, the whole of congress will be run by his boss, AIPAC, so why would he care, he is going to destroy the people who voted for him. He is the trojan horse and america is troy; always, always be suspicious of people bearing gifts. The orange jew is an ex-democrat bearing gifts.

    #196567
    Topcat
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    Tears for Gaza

    Yeh, MIC Maggots

    #196568
    aspnaz
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    Topcat said

    Does he have better security than Charlie Kirk?

    Anybody who uses private jets is relatively easy to assassinate. An individual could easily down a jet but would require some knowledge of the jet’s flight path. For example, if Soros lives in X then you would have to study his usual takeoff then get a computer to fly a drone into his jet’s engine.

    If you have more money, go to the ‘stans, buy a couple of SAMs, sail them into the USA, shoot down the plane.

    If you are a country, piece of piss to get rid of him.

    So why is he still alive? Soros is a faucet, he provides money to destabilising groups and the money comes from lots of different places, it is not his own personal fortune. I am sure than a lot of it comes from the USA’s annual gift to Israel, I am sure lots of it comes from government grants designed to steal money from government accounts. You kill Soros, you then have to kill the next Soros. What’s the point.

    #196569
    Topcat
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    Trump’s FBI are lying douchebags

    The Kirk hit is an in-your-face coverup like JFK-RFK, 911 whatever…….

    Kash is only in it for the Cash

    The Comey ‘indictment’ is a show pony for the midterms.

    Look! Squirrel!

    Meanwhile vermin like Fauci and Soros skate.

    #196570
    Topcat
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    #196571
    Topcat
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    #196572
    Topcat
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    Misplaced priorities

    USSA is Thy name….

    #196573
    those darned kids
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    everybody can see that archduke ferdinand was killed by the kazahk secret police using an exploding swizzle stick.

    #196574
    aspnaz
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    Killing Soros would be like killing the head of the CIA. Meaningless. What you need to do is to kill the snake that feeds Soros.

    Iran is a good example. Why has Iran never attacked Israel? Because Israel has nukes. But Iran has spent a lot of money geting the info on where Israels nukes are kept, who looks after them, etc etc. Why would they do this? Because Iran plans to wipe out Israel, they will completely eliminate Israel and will be backed by the rest of the Muslim world, but they need to be confident that they are able to wipe out Israel’s nuclear threat in the first strike.

    You think that Saudi, Iran, UAE etc are going to sit there on their money and wait for Israel to wipe them out? Give us a break, they will ensure that Iran has everything it needs to destroy the Israel nuclear threat, that is the new warfare. If you have super-accurate missiles and top quality intelligence, why are you worried about the enemy’s nuclear missiles.

    I am sure that Russia thinks the same of the USA; you think that latest missile, the Oreshnik, was designed to do anything other than destroy nuclear launch silos? You think the Russians have not got equally capable torpedoes waiting to eliminate the USA’s submarine fleet? Russia is making the USA’s nuclear defences impotent. Then they can live in peace.

    #196575
    those darned kids
    Participant

    wow! i was able to edit my post!¡!

    now, if only i could edit some others…

    #196576
    aspnaz
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    I would also bet that the Russians have a missile that could hit the ocean so hard that it kills all submarines within 10 miles of the impact, maybe the Oreshnik can do this, I don’t know. Think about it, the game is now to be able to eliminate the enemies nukes, and Israel only has siloed nukes, nothing the Russians or Iranians could not take out, as long as they know where they are located.

    #196577
    those darned kids
    Participant

    #196578
    Topcat
    Participant

    DocGPT – The Future of ‘medicine’

    “I’ve scene the future brother, it is murder”

    #196579
    Dr. D
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    Listened to Docterow (Dreisen?) interview, we have almost identical views. Viz Ukr, Trump, Europe. So they’re headed mainstream.

    Krainer agrees, then completely disagrees, saying what Trump does is good, practical, understandable, but he can’t do it in an American way. He’s not allowed. He has to hide, and talk nicely, and be all elegant and Upper Crust about it.

    Yeah, GFY Europeans. Your emphasis on being “Presidential” – or the Euro equivalent of diplo speak – meant YOU DID NOTHING, while these leaders actually DID murder by the 6 millions everywhere – Sarkozy is in trouble for opening slave markets in Libya today – and are now FIGHTING the guy/side that is still stopping it and stopping your suicide. So it’s okay to traffic and kill EVERYONE, so long as you do it in a very polite, boring, Starmer-like way. And Krainer’s a smart guy who totally gets it.

    Do you HEAR yourselves? I’d rather have him talk like Bojo the Clown whoops! Did that! Elmer Fudd and Bugs Bunny, like Pee Wee Herman and Jonah Hex combined and get at at least One thing done. Worse, they then say the REASON he gets stuff done is BECAUSE he’ll talk like this and flip to “Boy I guess you’re all correct then, Europe, Congress, Russia really IS losing, and Ukraine really WILL talk Moscow…which is ALSO why we should leave!!!” …Which lie is it going to be today, boys? Nooooo! Using this American plain talk diffuses all the lies, it’s not Fair!!!!

    He has to tell the complete, literal, accurate truth, and tell us all what he’s thinking and planning, follow every law slavishly and perfectly, so we can stop him at every turn. Only that is fair. We of course follow Muslim or Dune rules: We do and say whatever we want, lie cheat constantly, and that is OUR morals so that is fair to US.

    “Patel arrests only one and only one day before limitiations…”

    Yes and did we not JUST follow RFK ask for ONE study, already made, on the shelf, forwarded over, and EVERY employee said (OMG) that they would baffle, hide, prevaricate, slow walk? SEVEN months? Interview with Kunster (And someone, a navyman) pointed out that EVERY sailor on the ship is in full mutiny. They’ve been hiring nobody but Woke since Obama, 20 years. Like Comey and Meuller were their Directors. So Kash can give whatever orders he wants. Like RFK NO ONE IS GOING TO FOLLOW THEM.

    If you say you’re interested in X case, they will then hide and destroy X evidence BECAUSE you want the case brought.

    But all of you armchair vets can solve that with a few words and we should probably impeach RFK, Patel, etc.

    Also IF there is a time bomb in the case – which there are, they also tampered with evidence – THEN when he gets off on a technicality, because the FBI records and evidence are FALSE, it’s really bad and worse for morale, you guys say impeach Trump, we have a Civil War….and everybody dies.

    Because you have no patience. Knock it off. I can also be frustrated, but you have to know for a FACT all those obstacles are going on. “There is only one Agency, and only one worker in it, Patel”. Yup! He now does everything, from sweep the floors, make the coffee, read the reports, because everybody else will lie as soon as looking at him. …Look at who they are: people who took the knee and helped Comey for decades, hide Pedo networks, erase Epstein, run Whitey Bulgar out of Boston mob on person hit jobs, all that. FBI labs famous 20 years ago for smoking meth on the job and saying, “What do you WANT the forensics to be?” That’s your FBI staff.

    And now, today, you’re going to go down and TELL them to be honest, pretty-please?

    Great. No wonder we’re not getting anywhere.

    ““There are people in our orbit who believe that maybe this is a holding matter and there’s going to be a superseding indictment.”

    Duh. Of course there is. So Patel is not bringing one cases, but the largest series of interlocking cases in U.S. history. Why can’t he do that in 90 days? Where even READING the material would take 4 years, and that’s if they were accurate and not lying on reports like Comey was. (Hillary’s interview docs)

    • What Hegseth’s Mystery Meeting Of Hundreds Of Generals Is All About (ZH)

    Seems a deep security hazard. One strikes me: they have like one General per 1,000 men. The only way to COMMUNICATE why he really needs to fire half of them and have them agree is for all of them to SEE each other, and go, “Uh, yeah, I guess this has got out of hand.” It would be like calling them to harbor, and have One admiral per shhip…then have 537 extra admirals sitting on the dock in folding chairs. And you ask them, “not me, but do YOU think this is embarrassing?”

    They will all say no and fight for their jobs, of course. That’s the type.

    “Jim Comey is a man of integrity, of honesty,”

    Didn’t Comey and his brother fabricate an incredible home invasion when they were 10 years old and have been lying on that level ever since?

    “• Kremlin Responds To Zelensky Hinting At Assassination Of Top Leadership (ZH)

    Everyone seems to agree Trump is pissed Russia won’t up the pace and do this. So it’s becoming consensus.

    Great. And I’m concerned doing this is a Western trap so why bother? Every minute it goes on Germany looks more stupidererer. Ukraine is Droning Poland, Poland looks stupid. Ze bombs E. Europe, and shows the maniac he is to Slovakia. Why stop?

    “Former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair has proposed to lead a transitional administration in Gaza when Israel’s military campaign in the enclave ends,”

    Ah. So they “recognize” it, then Rule it a day later. And their $70B gas fields. I think I’ve found a motive.

    “• Springsteen Is Calling For Trrump’s Impeachment Again (Cantrell)

    He can’t think one level in. He believes what the news says about him being a felon. Okay, great. So if he is, why didn’t the lawsuits work any? If DNC won’t impeach, then the whole DNC is a Trump ally then, right? And has been for years, adding Epstein, decades, lifetimes. Hey Bruce: something may be wrong with this logic, you may want to look into it first.

    Charlie Kirk REALLY Killed by His Own Security?”

    Yeah, but the debunkers here will say he was shot from BEHIND, then show pic of his crew in front, then say there was no exit wound, then say a 200 yard shot is Ace. Then say a bush on Google Earth is the secret shooter. Like all of these guys should be put in a group home. Not that there aren’t good ones, or ideas, but you can’t hear them over the noise, and the dumbest ones are being amplified.

    #196580
    Topcat
    Participant

    Progress is Our Most Important Product

    #196581
    Topcat
    Participant

    #196582
    John Day
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    Last night (this morning in China) Aspnaz(1 or 4) observed:
    “Freedom means different things to the Chinese and westerners. The Chinese see stable, competent government, personal safety, free healthcare, rising incomes, free education, 90% house ownership etc as freedom, they could not care less about being able to say stupid shit about their leaders online.

    Westerners are convinved that they have individual agency, that they have some power – I think this harks back to the Chritian religion which says that everybldy is equal under God – and so they insist on having a say in how the country works, to have a vote, to give their opinions on how the leadership is doing etc. This is very inportant to westerners and consumes a lot of very unproductive effort in the west.
    Westerners are now learning that their democracies are fraudulent, that they don’t have any power, that they are allowed to say what they like because the people at the top are not listening.”

    And also:

    “In China you are not allowed to insult the leaders, basically not allowed to encourage people to rebel against the government etc. In America you are not allowed to insult the rich Jews, not allowed to encourage people to be anti Israel etc.
    Rulers will always tend to protect their power; makes sense, would be weird if they didn’t.”

    I think it’s Aspnaz4, but it’s all circumstantial and literary style analysis on my part.

    #196583
    Topcat
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    #196584
    Topcat
    Participant

    Gotta go deal with some real problems like raking mountains of leaves on a Sunday

    #196585
    John Day
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    I suspect that Hegseth addressing all the generals and admirals at Quantico Tuesday is an option play.
    It comes the day after Trump and Netanyahu talk at the White House.

    #196586
    those darned kids
    Participant

    ” He believes what the news says about him being a felon.”

    mr springsteen also believed in operation warp speed. he should be demanding mr trump’s immediate arrest, not something as asinine as “impeachment”:

    https://news.google.com/search?q=bruce+springsteen+health&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en

    #196587
    those darned kids
    Participant

    #196588
    zerosum
    Participant

    Reflection on Truth
    Jennings also noted that Democrats had long pushed for prosecutions of Trump and his allies.

    “Every Democrat in this country for years made no secret about the fact that they wanted Donald Trump and his people prosecuted, put in jail and prevented from running for reelection, and they opened this box and now they’re living in it.”

    And that right there is the key: the left spent years weaponizing the justice system, tearing apart norms and exploiting law enforcement to target political opponents.

    Now, when the same standard is applied to one of their own for actual alleged crimes instead of made-up ones, the outrage is deafening.

    They can’t argue that the law shouldn’t apply—they made this game their own.
    Comey’s indictment is a reminder that no one, regardless of rank or party loyalty, is above the law.

    The lesson is clear: play political games with criminal implications, and sooner or later, the consequences catch up.

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    • What Hegseth’s Mystery Meeting Of Hundreds Of Generals Is All About (ZH)

    No official explanation has yet to be given for why some 800 top commanders are being gathered.

    Speculation

    going to war with Russia,

    change in force posture.

    a big talk by Hegseth in maintaining “warrior ethos” and things like professional standards. It’s also being reported as one big “rally the troops” meeting.

    to tighten up discipline and professional standards across military ranks.

    never once did a secretary summon all of the hundreds of one- to four-stars from each of the services, plus their top enlisted counterparts, from every corner of the globe to a single auditorium.
    They likely didn’t do it because it is disruptive. It is expensive. And it is unnecessary.

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    Russian Launches Autumn-Winter Strike Military Campaign Military Summary And Analysis 2025.09.28

    Massive missile/drone attack against Kiev


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    #196589
    John Day
    Participant

    A Match Made In US Foreign Policy Hell https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/match-made-us-foreign-policy-hell

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky met with Syrian leader Ahmed al-Sharaa on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York City and agreed to restore diplomatic ties between Kiev and Damascus. The Ukrainian military aided al-Sharaa’s forces as they overran the Syrian government last year…
    ..”The Head of State noted that Ukraine welcomes the restoration of relations with Syria and is ready to support the Syrian people on their path to stability,” the statement continued.

    Sharaa, formerly Abu Mohammad al-Jolani, fought with al-Qaeda in Iraq against the US. He went on to found Syria’s al-Qaeda affiliate. While Jolani publicly split with it, he remained tied to jihadist groups.

    Jolani seized power in Damascus last year after support from the US and its allies, including Ukraine. Kiev sent about 20 drone operators and 150 drones to Jolani to use against the forces loyal to Bashar al-Assad.

    President Zelensky: “Today, Ukraine and Syria signed a Joint Communiqué on the restoration of diplomatic relations. We welcome this important step and are ready to support the Syrian people on their path to stability.”

    #196590
    John Day
    Participant

    Bragg Drops Charges Against Woman Who Attacked Pro-Life Advocate
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bragg-drops-charges-against-woman-who-attacked-pro-life-advocate

    Rivers was captured on videotape attacking Craven Antao after she asked Rivers questions about abortion and repeated her answers.
    New York police arrested Rivers in April on one count of second-degree assault. Prosecutors had this videotape that showed no provocation or excuse for the violent attack. Antao had to go to emergency room for stitches and pay $3,000 in medical bills.
    Nevertheless, Bragg’s office first downgraded the charge from second-degree assault to a misdemeanor and has now dropped the case entirely. He is just going to let Rivers walk after an act of political violence captured on film.

    #196591
    zerosum
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    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/24/white-house-firings-shutdown-00579909?ace_config={%22wsj%22:{%22djcmp%22:{%22propertyHref%22:%22https://wsj.android.app%22}}}&ace_environment=androidphone,webview&article_is_saved=n&wsj_native_webview=android

    White House to agencies: Prepare mass firing plans for a potential shutdown

    The Office of Management and Budget move to permanently reduce the government workforce if there is a shutdown, outlined in a memo shared with POLITICO ahead of release to agencies tonight, escalates the stakes of a potential shutdown next week.
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    Question for your AI
    Is AI being use to make money?

    1. list all the AI, what are their specialties, who is developing them.
    2. which AI are the best salemans,
    3. Which AI get the most prospects

    If you’re looking to scale prospecting fast, Apollo.io and Clay are often the top picks for small to mid-sized teams, while ZoomInfo and Cognism dominate in enterprise settings.
    Why TV Isn’t a Primary Prospecting Channel for AI Yet
    – TV is one-to-many, while AI thrives in one-to-one personalization.
    – Attribution from TV is harder than from digital clicks.
    Most AI sales tools focus on email, LinkedIn, web traffic, and CRM data — where intent signals are clearer.
    If you’re thinking about using TV to drive AI-powered outreach, I can help you design a hybrid strategy that connects TV viewers to digital funnels. Want to explore that?
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    #196592
    D Benton Smith
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    Ultimately the tipping point for the existence of a society is the value placed upon the life of a child. If that value falls (or is deliberately driven) below the value of money and power, then that society is doomed. For that society to go on and continue doing those things that harm children then that is far far worse than for it to mercifully die as quickly as possible. Every minute of that span is a minute in a Hell that gets more Hellish by the minute.

    #196593
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Most (almost all) of the terrible things being done to you (and/or those you care about) is the direct, intentional, paid for and managed, operation and/or standard operating procedure of government employees who draw their legally authorized wages from the Government at one level or another of that pyramid of power. In short, the government is the criminal organization that is running and paying for the degradation and violence that is killing us at the same time it attempts to put us all in chains.
    That’s what they (and THEIR paymasters) want and so that is what they do, and they fully intend without reservation to go on doing that violence to you until you cry out to them for help. That “help” consists of them taking “the power-to-control”, and exercising it first by taking that power of choice away from you. That’s the game. They will deliberately harm until they are granted TOTAL control. At least, that is their demonstrated intention. They haven’t quite got it yet. But they’re close.

    #196594
    charles
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    I will get my bet in before the window closes. I have never seen a management all hands be anything but layoffs. Maybe around 10 times. The best news possible is recall all safaris.

    #196595
    Dora
    Participant

    The realjesseonfire video replays the guy in the brown t-shirt touching his shoulder at the moment of fire. The thing about the brown t-shirt guy that’s bothered me from the first time I saw it is this: He looks at Kirk and he is smiling as he touches his should, and in the half second it takes for the crowd to realize what happened and react the brown t-shirt guy doesn’t change expression at all. He turns to look at the crowd, still looking like he’s smiling.

    And why was Bibi the first one out of the gate to ‘mourn’ for Kirk’s assassination. Even before Trump. Then Bibi goes on his American “It wasn’t me” tour. Sort of like OJ Simpson looking for the “real killer”?

    #196596
    Dora
    Participant

    Jimmy Dore.

    #196597
    those darned kids
    Participant

    Ultimately the tipping point for the existence of a society is the value placed upon the life of a child. If that value falls (or is deliberately driven) below the value of money and power, then that society is doomed. For that society to go on and continue doing those things that harm children then that is far far worse than for it to mercifully die as quickly as possible. Every minute of that span is a minute in a Hell that gets more Hellish by the minute.

    #196598
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Just to break the ice. It’s Sunday.

    #196599
    Just Some Randomer
    Participant

    @ kultsommer – in a similar vein – Irish comedian Dara O’Brien ….

    #196600
    WES
    Participant

    Creating J6 Violence Evidence:

    From CTH commentors, J6 Violence convictions were created by FBI agents deliberately injuring older women, so the men around her would intervene to protect her from further injury.

    This created the evidence to charge and convict all of these J6 men of violent insurection!

    Naturally, the first violent strike injuring the older women by the FBI agents, was omitted.

    In addition very few people are aware that a woman (Boyland) died when the FBI agents deliberately pushed the J6 crowd back at Trump’s rally.
    Naturally, the msm didn’t note this violent murder by the FBI agents.
    What maybe interesting about this is that the statute of limitations for charging these FBI agents does not apply in cases of murder.

    #196601
    chooch
    Participant

    Yes, Paula White is a prominent figure in the Christian Zionist movement, using her platform to express strong and active support for the nation of Israel based on her biblical interpretations. She has publicly stated that her support for Israel is not based on politics but on her reading of the Bible. 

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