Debt Rattle September 30 2025
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September 30, 2025 at 11:46 am #196664
Dora
ParticipantMore boatloads of illegals landing in the UK. What to do.
September 30, 2025 at 12:05 pm #196665Dr. D
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AI lying. And lying. And lying. Then lying more.
Just like the programmers wanted.Then what does Pool do? After having to relentlessly batter Grok into submission HE THEN TRUSTS ITS NUMBERS. Look: if every number you ask is wrong, then when it aggregates the numbers, what makes you think it’s now correct? A: Because “it sounds right”. And Appeal to Authority, the Computer is the Authority. Computer Say No.
(This is him asking how many terrorist/violence left/Right, and it immediately adds anyone Right as “average Trump supporter” and says Leftist violence over all time is “Zero”. He then adds each one, day by day, Kirk, Catholic School, and Grok admits them. Then says None. He then asks about George Floyd and it says “none.” He then asks why and Grok calls on the “One True Scotsman”, “If they committed violence, they’re not actually leftists, tho” He then forces Grok to add anyone, from any time or place, under any condition, like that window scene in “Fish Called Wanda” and it says “13,000” acts of political violence” or “Incalculable” ie too many to count. This is too boring and well-known to elaborate on. The lies are cast into the foundations of the system. The point was Pool then believes it like an idiot.)
“What Kellogg conveniently doesn’t mention is that those missiles wouldn’t be fired by the Ukrainian military, they will be operated by NATO”
Yes. Okay, WHY? Does not seem to be more s—t talk in the same vein. Okay, work backwards: you need to END UKRAINE. Okay, how? What conditions would have to exist for you to take out Ukraine, do a full decapitation strike, etc, without it possibly being a plausible cause for nuclear war in the utterly deranged West?
Russia just gets up one Monday in October and Nukes (Oreshniks) all of Kiev?
No, the Dogs of War will force war then. They’ll have the leverage. Note Trump is SURROUNDED by these maniacs. On all sides. In his own party. In the entire business class. In lobbyists. In Israel. In every mouth of every person in all Europe. War! War! War! So you think they can do this and Trump – who only barely and recently got the upper hand in any power at all – is just going to take on the entire mass of the collective West personally.
My dude: Politics is the Art of the POSSIBLE. That means POSSIBLE. Not what we want with wishes and fairy dust.
Okay, how can Russia get a greenlight to f—k up Ukraine royally and permanently and the West be unable to say a single word but shut their D—n mouths?
Well, you could do what Ayn Rand says, the only thing that’s ever worked: They’re the f—king geniuses, you do exactly and only what they ask. Completely. Let them hang themselves. Don’t help them with your on-the-ground expertise at all. We’ve tried every means of reasoning, they are incapable of breaking the psychosis that they’re winning? Fine. They want Tomahawk missiles on Moscow? Fine. Here ya Go!
Why?
Because we can ALSO tell them exactly where and when they are, the name and badge number of the guy who launches them and hand the launch minute to the GSU. They have every missile shield there that hour and shoot them down. Heck, maybe we self-destruct them as dummy warheads from our end. …Not that Russia would or should trust us with that.
Then Putin gets up to the UN, says “Roight! So ALL NATO – Europe division – just NUKED MOSCOW. Hey, I’m no lawyer, but I’d call that AN ACT OF WAR. Ya think? So here’s what we’re a-gonna do: we’re going to PARKING LOT Kiev, and take everything out to Poland. And we already sunk 12 British ships. Any questions?”
And what does it look like here?
Trumpers sez “Hey, we only SOLD them the weapons, we didn’t tell them how to use them (we did or could actually, but) so you American people, you IN this war? Or was this something you don’t like that EUROPE did?” American people have leverage enough and over their Congress to hold to this level.
EUROPE, on the other hand, is FUCKED.
Remember last time they did this, UK called back all their ships and hid them behind civilians? Then shut off every camera in London? Don’t think that will help you this time.
Again (and again. And again) the only plan Europe has is AMERICA. The only weapons, men, airlift, shipping, satellites they have are OURS. Like John Wick, they wanted to fight this on the cheap with other people’s men. So if Russia does attack EUROPE — or not really, but just fully mobilizes and moves to Poland – what is Europe going to DO except scream like little girls AT US? Or are they going to throw baguettes at them?
And again, HOW did we make the conditions for this? This is that Trump/Vance have been demanding: Wtf? Get this war done? You sluggards?
By having EUROPE be called offsides.
And they have free choice. Europe can – and should – also NOT do this. Their people are already going to hang them, so they could avoid it. But they won’t.
So since they won’t better to have the puppet show happen under our control and information-sharing than somehow off the ranch and causing a chaos that might create random actions.
Got it?
“US President Trump never intended to stop the war in Ukraine – it is a US proxy war the US could stop any time it wants, it doesn’t want to.”
Okay, sold. Then EXPLAIN, Brian. Everything is an accident that’s all contradicting, while in my theory, it makes sense and is predictive.
“Staggeringly ignorant of reality, NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte claims Russia didn’t diversify”
You have to understand what, how these guys work. And I actually have come to realize this most sharply through feminism. They’re not LYING, exactly, be more specific: they simply wake up each instant and say “What do I need to SAY to make you DO whatever I want?” That’s it. That’s the whole mental state and everything in it. “What needs to be TRUE for you to do this act I want, buy me a ring, kill yourself in front of me, whatever?” Then I just SAY that thing is True. If a minute later, that will NOT order you to act like hypnosis and a magic spell, then it’s false. A minute later true again. Like masks. Then Riots. Then masks. Or that all women were raped daily every where, through all history up to 1990 before being burned as witches at the age of 30, although we have no record of it anywhere, ever. But if that WERE true, you would be very, very sorry, and give me things. Therefore, IT’S TRUE! I promise!
This is Rutte here. “What do I have to SAY, to make the whole world want a worldwide nuclear Armageddon that kills everyone and makes me happy?” Then he says it.
So just save all your facts and logic, they are not relevant here.
“You are insulting the integrity of Russia saying it is a ‘paper tiger,’ etc. Everything Trump has said is exactly what the neocons have been saying.”
Yes, no kidding. Why don’t you take your own advice and say “SINCE it is so obvious that is the result, then that is the INTENDED result”? That is, Trump is repeating the NeoCons because he can’t shake them off. They’re g-d d—d everywhere he turns. Like DOGE: he shows $1Trillion in savings, Congress says “No. We refuse.” Okay, that’s not the path then, is it? The art of the POSSIBLE. I can’t do it without them and time’s ticking, so we move on to another way.
War here is the same. So YOU say Europe can defeat Russia and reclaim Ukraine in a fortnight? Here ya go! Show me.
He’s picking on Russia because BY doing that, dicking around, Trump ran out of time I’m totally sure he warned them of, and that means RUSSIA ran out of time because he’ll need to act. This is exactly the same as Iran: he gave them 30 days, that’s all the time he can hold off the Israeli lobby and NeoCons. Day 31 they were bombed (mostly by Israel). If Russia was surrounding Kiev right now, things would be different, wouldn’t they?
Not to be dumb, Russia has 1,000 supercomputers too, and they know all this. Their flow chart looks different and they prefer this way, even if it pisses Trump off. I mean, IDGAF what Trump’s domestic schedule is. Russia does what’s best for Russia, and should. Trump FEELS (or probably OUR supercomputers say) that it would be better they other way. FOR US. Yeah, and? Too bad, Russia don’t live for us.
I can’t believe this isn’t all obvious.
So is ARMSTRONG right? Yes, it seems. But as his computer HE doesn’t know. He’s interpreting the computer here.
“Ukraine remains the center point for Europe as a proxy war orchestrated by NATO. Ukraine will not survive as a country, and the European Union is also not likely to survive beyond 2030.”
Yes, and yes. BUT WE, America, WILL.
And so will “Europe” actually, but not the EU. Thank God. Not even Europe likes those f—kkers. But that’s Le Plus Serious if the People have to topple like 20 governments there. That’s 10-20 years of deadly violence. There is no worse news. For them. We will get all the capital flows and save us. Am I mad? Sweden is even now the bombing and hand grenade capitol of the planet. No one noticed. It’s not a scandal. I still have Europeans every day tell me how perfect they are and how much the U.S. sucks. So it will have to get much, MUCH worse than that to leave a dent.
“Armstrong says, “I would tell President Trump to get the hell out of Europe, and get out the hell of NATO.”
He knows because they created their OWN Socrates supercomputer. C’mon Marty, it’s been thirty years, you think they didn’t? TRUMP COULD NOT POSSIBLY MOVE FASTER. He IS doing nothing but taking your advice at a house-on-fire pace.
Duran pointed this out as a Meta-meta reality. Trump says he’s “Selling weapons to NATO” Christoforu points out this is bulls—t: America IS NATO. They are taking money from one pocket and moving to another. This is what people say here.
Ah, but no. Every word from Trump is highlighting that AMERICA IS NOT NATO. To him, NATO is something else: it’s the OTHER guy. It’s Europe. And this is true. NATO was the European army, the NWO Army, that the U.S. paid and died for, and was screwed by. They were USING us, like a colony, like the Sikhs or the Highlanders in the British Empire. That is our “Purpose”.
And when Trump says “We are not NATO” that means???? Yes, that means we’re leaving, we told them 20 times, he told them in Germany in 2018, every time they ask he tells them again. We are not NATO. YOU are on your own. YOU want a war with Russia? Go ahead. See if I care. Because YOU are not US.
So Marty is exactly getting his wish here, and is why the US is missing from Revelations.
Will EUROPE do this war he fears? Again: they don’t have to.
But we all know and see that, regardless of the level of pressure, from Gilet Vests to the Gammonzilla, NO leader in Europe can be reached. Not ONE. They can’t even break off Portugal or Slovakia. Italy may flip US but only after. Every nation in Europe is going to walk right into this war unless the people hang their leaders by Friday in 25 countries. That’s not happening, so “nuclear” war it is, Sorry. But we’re out: Not Sorry.
“US President Donald Trump may have already approved Ukrainian long-range strikes inside Russia, special envoy Keith Kellogg said”
Wtf. “May have”? Then also “May not have.” Call me when you have facts. I don’t pay for stories “Aliens MAY have landed, but I dunno and have no pictures.”
“All of this discontent gets converted, abracadabra, into political ideology. The old, reliable package of Marxism works whenever people feel cheated out of meaning, purpose, and a livelihood.”
That’s why they engineer it on purpose. Arson on demand. None of this is organic in the slightest . Capitalism didn’t fail. It’s not at the “Late Stage”. Every day we record laws that aren’t enforced, regulations that make no sense, are counterproductive, $1T in waste everyone knows is there. Yet although they could all be fixed from 1789-1971, suddenly nothing can be fixed anymore! It’s magic! A comet hit the earth and the laws of physics all changed.
We can go from 1914 where men were too anemic to join the war, to 1960, where every kid was healthy, hale, took phys-ed, read music, played an instrument, you can see in their jaws, their surfer-shape, then Poof! Magic! A fat-comet hit the earth and suddenly fat and retard splashed everywhere! We HAD ALL THE SAME SCIENCE that created the original health, which was ALSO a national choice out of 1910-1940. But suddenly all the same science magically reversed, 100 compass needles all at once, although no one decided anything and there wasn’t any Plan.
Suuuuuure there wasn’t. No, they SAY, they write, publish, date stamp, sign their g-d d—d NAMES to papers like Cloward-Pivon STATING it is their EXPRESS INTENT to destroy everything. Because wealthy, happy, smart people don’t revolt and murder, and we can’t get global communism without it. And then how am I going to be King and make them all pay?
Note: You’re not, Yarvin, Destiny, Hanania, Hasan: Comrade Stalin will put you against the wall in the first five minutes, you’ll control and rule nothing.
But this is alllllllllllllllllllll a big fat accident. That I wrote down. And signed my name to. 50 years ago.
“abracadabra,” “Marxism works” …Works great for oligarchs and the British Empire. That’s why they keep doing it.
“The Trump administration just pulled off something most Americans probably didn’t think was possible: shrinking the federal bureaucracy in a massive and meaningful way. On Tuesday, more than 100,000 federal workers are expected to walk out the door “
This is what I voted for. Let’s criticize and impeach the guy that did it.
“appointment of new Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood”
Enough said. Listened to Sargon, Queer Stalin is “Afraid” of British people with British flags in London? What more do you need to know? They still – by a thousand measures – have no idea what they’ve done wrong. They’re thinking they need more school lunches. More surveillance, and more taking more taxes to give localities “Independence” when they deign to hand a 5 quid back. Uh, no, actually.
So the people are “winning” everywhere, if you can call it that. One party has ceased to exist, the power-party is dead and on the run. Farage may be a sellout, but then HE can become the LEFT party, not the Right, as they finally get a fourth party in that has real values. Tide is essentially turned and over.
You can see in AfD and elsewhere too.
September 30, 2025 at 12:51 pm #196666Topcat
ParticipantEmpire of Lies Mini Summary
#1 Trumptard says he’s letting ‘NATO’ and the Euroturds ‘deal’ with Ukraine, the USSA instigated Globohomo proxy war.
Allowing Ukraine to launch nuclear capable cruise missiles deep into Russia that in reality can only function with USSA assistance.
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#2 Trumptard is telling ‘NATO’ (the USSA in Drag) is going to ‘buy’ USSA weapons (which barely exist) to ‘give’ to Ukraine on behalf of the Euroturd countries.
‘NATO’ can’t buy anything, it has no financial purchasing ability, Trumptard knows this.
So the individual dead broke Euroturd countries have to buy the barely existing USSA ‘weapons’ with stolen Russia assets, Trumptard also knows this.
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#3 Trumptard believes Special Kellogg K that Russia is suffering huge losses in Ukraine despite the vast almost unending ocean of Ukrainian cemeteries that are published all over the internet.
There are no similiar cemetery videos and pictures of Russian graves. Satellites can easily verify this.
In exchanges of KIA soldiers, Ukraine gives Russia a couple dozen dead Russian soldiers, Russia gives Ukraine a THOUSAND.
Trumptards also knows this.
Everything Trumptard says at this point in history is a lie.
So it’s important to watch the actions he does, not what he says.
The Empire of Lies is going to dis-integrate like the Soviet Union because it’s a dead-man-walking.
Financially, militarily, morally, spiritually and physically.
September 30, 2025 at 1:12 pm #196667Topcat
ParticipantMoscow Subway
September 30, 2025 at 1:12 pm #196668Topcat
ParticipantNew York City Subway
September 30, 2025 at 1:14 pm #196669Topcat
ParticipantNYC third world shithole subway
September 30, 2025 at 1:14 pm #196670zerosum
ParticipantMy thoughts on what RIM found.
WAR IN UKRAINE
President Trump is considering letting Ukraine use long-range US missiles to strike deep inside Russia.
What Kellogg conveniently doesn’t mention is that those missiles wouldn’t be fired by the Ukrainian military, they will be operated by NATO/USA specialists.“The U.S. provides the missiles.
The U.S. approves the missile locations in Ukraine.
The U.S. authorizes the targets of the missiles from their location.
NATO provides the satellite guidance system.
Ukraine targets Moscow and launches the missiles.
How is President Trump not directly responsible for a NATO proxy war against Russia?”US President Trump never intended to stop the war in Ukraine – it is a US proxy war the US could stop any time it wants, it doesn’t want to.
There isn’t a pause in weapons or fighting, just growing shortages of what the US can afford to send.WAR IN GAZA
What is not mentioned, is that those missiles are operated by ISRAELY/USA trained specialists.
US President Trump never intended to stop the war in GAZA – it is a US proxy war the US could stop any time it wants, it doesn’t want to.SUPPORT FOR WAR FOR SUPER/GREATER ISRAEAL
I don’t understand why this is happening.
I don’t understand why the middle east is not opposing this destruction, depopulation, war planning.
President Trump formally unveiled a 20-point
peace planwar plan.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House and said it could bring “eternal peace in the Middle East”.
— with eight Muslim-majority countries and the West Bank-based Palestinian Authority quickly joining Israel in embracing the blueprint.
(The governments of Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates issued a rare joint statement praising the framework. )
“the leaders of the Arab world, Israel and everybody involved, asked me, (Trump), to” chair the proposed peace board and floated the prospect of the deal leading to dramatic regional changes – including possible diplomatic relations between Israel and Iran.https://nypost.com/2025/09/29/us-news/trump-unveils-20-point-gaza-cease-fire-plan-with-him-running-board-of-peace-warns-israel-will-finish-the-job-if-hamas-objects/
• Trump Unveils 20-Point Gaza Cease-Fire Plan (NYP)TODAY, WAR MEETING OF GENERALS
WHY? IS IT TO GET SUPPORT FOR DRUG/ENERGY WAR IN VENEZUALA ?
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This brings us to Armstrong’s predictive computer program called Socrates.• Trump Flip Flop on Ukraine Guarantees Nuke War – Martin Armstrong (USAW)
https://usawatchdog.com/trump-flip-flop-on-ukraine-guarantees-nuke-war-martin-armstrong/
Armstrong says, “I would tell President Trump to get the hell out of Europe, and get out the hell of NATO. I did pass a message to President Trump a few months ago with someone who is close to him. I said NATO is going to try to do a false flag to invoke an Article Five to drag us into the war. We have to get out of NATO ASAP.”
————TODAY, START OF LOCKDOWN OF GOV. SPENDING MONEY THEY DON’T HAVE.
ALSO,
• Trump Is About to Pull Off the Biggest Federal Workforce Cut in History (Margolis)
The total number of expected departures through the delayed resignation and voluntary separation programs, attrition, and early retirement programs is approximately 275,000 employees, according to the spokesman.
Sources told CNN earlier this year that OPM offered an early retirement incentive through the Voluntary Early Retirement Authority, or VERA, to employees who qualify and choose to participate in the deferred resignation program.
To be eligible, workers must be at least 50 years old with 20 years of service—or any age with at least 25 years on the job.What we’re witnessing is a permanent reduction of more than 10% in the civilian federal workforce.
—————–September 30, 2025 at 1:15 pm #196671Topcat
ParticipantSmells like piss and sewage
Nice
September 30, 2025 at 2:06 pm #196672those darned kids
Participantthis is madness.
the sooner we can eliminate this charade we call “democracy”, the better off we will all be.
the only way we can govern ourselves is with a body chosen randomly from the populace, an “aleacracy”.
(please don’t ask for details; ask me about polyharmony or growing brazilian starfish peppa* or ¿why? is a duck)
anything else leads to, well, today.
madness.
it has to stop. don’t you have kids? don’t they have kids?
it seems we can’t rid ourselves of a certain psychopathic type of person (not tribe, you goons) in our populations that leads the horde of humans to extramean, extradumb, and extrafoul. we can only keep them in check by diluting their power through a large enough sample size, selected at random.
think of it as your bell curve government.
screw “democracy” – what a sham.
*you gotta grow these things, doc day
September 30, 2025 at 2:09 pm #196673Dora
ParticipantTucker Carlson. The 9/11 Files, episode 2.
September 30, 2025 at 2:18 pm #196674those darned kids
Participantmexico city:
September 30, 2025 at 2:25 pm #196675kultsommer
ParticipantCasualty of Soviet era.
Even the youth is still so brainwashed that are incapable of “expressing themselves” in those subway stations and cars. Many of them will live their lives never knowing what is “freedom”, “individual”, “making your own rules”…..September 30, 2025 at 2:33 pm #196676jb-hb
Participantpre postmodernist deconstructionist leftist NYC Subway
September 30, 2025 at 2:34 pm #196677jb-hb
ParticipantSeptember 30, 2025 at 2:41 pm #196678jb-hb
Participantyknow, crass, tasteless American mass transit. Gotten rid of by the big brain smart people who knew the past was stupid, ignorant, and inferior
….some artistic bits got saved to be left lying around NY city though…
September 30, 2025 at 2:48 pm #196679kultsommer
ParticipantThat nasty word inequality.
Status quo protected by threat of “communism” where equality is “translated” as wealth evenly distributed and benefiting mostly the “lazy”.
WES made many hints like that in his “description of socialism”.
September 30, 2025 at 3:16 pm #196680John Day
ParticipantGod Bless Killing People And Breaking Things https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/god-bless-killing-people-and-breaking
On August 2, 1934, assembled German generals swore a loyalty oath to Adolph Hitler. Tomorrow’s meeting is an open option for any kind of military reform: Trump To Join Hegseth’s Gathering Of Generals On “How We’re Doing Militarily” https://www.zerohedge.com/military/trump-confirms-hell-attend-hegseths-gathering-generals-how-were-doing-militarily
I have watched Hegseth (with sparkly-flag-belt-buckle) talk about God, and Trump talk about his accomplishments, and both talk about getting “woke” out of the military to return standards to what they were, and have a lethal fighting force to only use when necessary, including in American cities. Trump finished with “God bless the United States military”. It was a big pep talk. Netanyahu signed the papers yesterday. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/watch-live-trump-hegseth-address-rare-gathering-of-u-s-military-leaders-from-around-the-world
Only the US can target them: U.S. Special Envoy for Ukraine Keith Kellogg Says President Trump Has Authorized NATO Strikes Against Moscow
President Donald Trump has authorized NATO member states to deploy offensive missile systems into non-NATO Ukraine, provided by the U.S. In the latest development, U.S. Special Envoy for Ukraine General Keith Kellogg has announced Ukraine has the authority to launch those missile systems deep into Russia, including Moscow…
..The reason why the EU member states of NATO want escalated war with Russia is financial and economic. Through policy and ideology, the EU/NATO members have walked themselves into an economic dead end. They are out of assets to leverage. The only way out for the EU/NATO leadership is to create a war to erase debt, expand assets and reset the economics. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/09/29/u-s-special-envoy-for-ukraine-keith-kellogg-says-president-trump-has-authorized-nato-strikes-against-moscow/Mystery fleet of US Air Force tankers crossing Atlantic stirs echoes of Iran strike https://endtimeheadlines.org/2025/09/developing-mystery-fleet-of-us-air-force-tankers-crossing-atlantic-stirs-echoes-of-iran-strike/
September 30, 2025 at 3:18 pm #196681John Day
Participant Simplicius, EU Fast-Tracks Transformation into Military Bloc Under Von Der Leyen’s Unaccountable Leadership
The Moldovan election has come and gone with the expected “democratic” results. Maia Sandu entrenches her power as another ex-banking head (“Sandu served as an adviser to the Executive Director at the World Bank.”) to lead a Western nation.
Now that the tentacles of control over Europe are falling into place for the cabal, they are ratcheting up the war machine to shoehorn the conflict into its next natural stage, which will necessarily include mass military ramp ups and provocations against Russia in order to force the EU vassals into a military ‘point-of-no-return’...
..The new directive taking root is that Europe is “already at war”, which meme’s purpose is to slowly transition the entire EU into a full-on military bloc… These elites are trying to turn the EU into a kind of super-NATO, where the central authority actually has power to force these nations to militarize and go to war, as opposed to NATO’s looser, more ‘suggestive’ structure…
..The EU is slowly transforming into a purely military bloc whose sole operational orientation, principle, and goal revolves around the defeat of Russia. And not only the defeat, but also the total destruction thereof, given that EU heiress-apparent Kaja Kallas has recently openly expressed that Russia should be balkanized into many smaller, weaker statelets...
..Now there’s a lot of hubbub around Trump allegedly authorizing long-range strikes as well as planning to deliver Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine. For now, I think most of this is bunk given that the long-range strikes bit was front-ran by notorious fabulist Keith Kellogg… Given that Tomahawk missiles are nuclear-capable, of course, such an escalation would prove extremely dangerous to Russia, as Russia would always have to assume any such Western system fired at it is carrying nuclear warheads—and thus act accordingly, which is why the prospect of this actually happening is low...
..Meanwhile, Zelensky tries to stir the pot by claiming Russian ‘shadow fleet’ tankers are responsible for launching the drones which have been ‘terrorizing’ sallow Europe...
..One of the chief reasons for the ongoing hysteria is because, after a few weeks’ lull, Ukrainian lines have again begun to collapse on several fronts. https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/eu-fast-tracks-transformation-intoNetanyahu saves face, but can he keep his bargain? Troops from neighboring countries will replace Israeli and Hamas troops. Hamas is reviewing the plan: “Israel Will Finish The Job” If Hamas Doesn’t Accept Trump’s 20-Point Gaza Plan & ‘Board Of Peace’
Having finished their lengthy remarks, Trump and Netanyahu took no questions as they left to another room to sign documents related to the 20-point peace plan for Gaza, which Trump has hailed as having the backing of key Arab allies across the region. One consistent theme of both Trump’s and Bibi’s in the Monday afternoon presser was that if Hamas doesn’t agree, then “Israel will finish the job” – meaning completely take over and occupy the Gaza Strip while seeking the total eradication of Hamas…
..President Donald J. Trump’s Plan to End the Gaza Conflict
Gaza will be a deradicalized terror-free zone that does not pose a threat to its neighbors.
Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.
If both sides agree to this proposal, the war will immediately end. Israeli forces will withdraw to the agreed upon line to prepare for a hostage release. During this time, all military operations, including aerial and artillery bombardment, will be suspended, and battle lines will remain frozen until conditions are met for the complete staged withdrawal.
Within 72 hours of Israel publicly accepting this agreement, all hostages, alive and deceased, will be returned.
Once all hostages are released, Israel will release 250 life sentence prisoners plus 1700 Gazans who were detained after October 7th 2023, including all women and children detained in that context. For every Israeli hostage whose remains are released, Israel will release the remains of 15 deceased Gazans.
Once all hostages are returned, Hamas members who commit to peaceful co-existence and to decommission their weapons will be given amnesty. Members of Hamas who wish to leave Gaza will be provided safe passage to receiving countries.
Upon acceptance of this agreement, full aid will be immediately sent into the Gaza Strip. At a minimum, aid quantities will be consistent with what was included in the January 19, 2025, agreement regarding humanitarian aid, including rehabilitation of infrastructure (water, electricity, sewage), rehabilitation of hospitals and bakeries, and entry of necessary equipment to remove rubble and open roads.
Entry of distribution and aid in the Gaza Strip will proceed without interference from the two parties through the United Nations and its agencies, and the Red Crescent, in addition to other international institutions not associated in any manner with either party. Opening the Rafah crossing in both directions will be subject to the same mechanism implemented under the January 19, 2025 agreement.
Gaza will be governed under the temporary transitional governance of a technocratic, apolitical Palestinian committee, responsible for delivering the day-to-day running of public services and municipalities for the people in Gaza. This committee will be made up of qualified Palestinians and international experts, with oversight and supervision by a new international transitional body, the “Board of Peace,” which will be headed and chaired by President Donald J. Trump, with other members and heads of State to be announced, including Former Prime Minister Tony Blair. This body will set the framework and handle the funding for the redevelopment of Gaza until such time as the Palestinian Authority has completed its reform program, as outlined in various proposals, including President Trump’s peace plan in 2020 and the Saudi-French proposal, and can securely and effectively take back control of Gaza. This body will call on best international standards to create modern and efficient governance that serves the people of Gaza and is conducive to attracting investment.
A Trump economic development plan to rebuild and energize Gaza will be created by convening a panel of experts who have helped birth some of the thriving modern miracle cities in the Middle East. Many thoughtful investment proposals and exciting development ideas have been crafted by well-meaning international groups, and will be considered to synthesize the security and governance frameworks to attract and facilitate these investments that will create jobs, opportunity, and hope for future Gaza.
A special economic zone will be established with preferred tariff and access rates to be negotiated with participating countries.
No one will be forced to leave Gaza, and those who wish to leave will be free to do so and free to return. We will encourage people to stay and offer them the opportunity to build a better Gaza.
Hamas and other factions agree to not have any role in the governance of Gaza, directly, indirectly, or in any form. All military, terror, and offensive infrastructure, including tunnels and weapon production facilities, will be destroyed and not rebuilt. There will be a process of demilitarization of Gaza under the supervision of independent monitors, which will include placing weapons permanently beyond use through an agreed process of decommissioning, and supported by an internationally funded buy back and reintegration program all verified by the independent monitors. New Gaza will be fully committed to building a prosperous economy and to peaceful coexistence with their neighbors.
A guarantee will be provided by regional partners to ensure that Hamas, and the factions, comply with their obligations and that New Gaza poses no threat to its neighbors or its people.
The United States will work with Arab and international partners to develop a temporary International Stabilization Force (ISF) to immediately deploy in Gaza. The ISF will train and provide support to vetted Palestinian police forces in Gaza, and will consult with Jordan and Egypt who have extensive experience in this field. This force will be the long-term internal security solution. The ISF will work with Israel and Egypt to help secure border areas, along with newly trained Palestinian police forces. It is critical to prevent munitions from entering Gaza and to facilitate the rapid and secure flow of goods to rebuild and revitalize Gaza. A deconfliction mechanism will be agreed upon by the parties.
Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. As the ISF establishes control and stability, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) will withdraw based on standards, milestones, and timeframes linked to demilitarization that will be agreed upon between the IDF, ISF, the guarantors, and the Unites States, with the objective of a secure Gaza that no longer poses a threat to Israel, Egypt, or its citizens. Practically, the IDF will progressively hand over the Gaza territory it occupies to the ISF according to an agreement they will make with the transitional authority until they are withdrawn completely from Gaza, save for a security perimeter presence that will remain until Gaza is properly secure from any resurgent terror threat.
In the event Hamas delays or rejects this proposal, the above, including the scaled-up aid operation, will proceed in the terror-free areas handed over from the IDF to the ISF.
An interfaith dialogue process will be established based on the values of tolerance and peaceful co-existence to try and change mindsets and narratives of Palestinians and Israelis by emphasizing the benefits that can be derived from peace.
While Gaza re-development advances and when the PA reform program is faithfully carried out, the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood, which we recognize as the aspiration of the Palestinian people.
The United States will establish a dialogue between Israel and the Palestinians to agree on a political horizon for peaceful and prosperous co-existence. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/everybody-wants-deal-trump-presses-netanyahu-gaza-peace-4th-wh-visitNetanyahu Apologizes To Qatar For Doha Strike, At Trump’s Direction https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/netanyahu-apologizes-qatar-doha-strike-trump-line
Hamas leaning towards accepting Trump’s Gaza peace plan https://www.jpost.com/international/article-869081
Israel shells Gaza City hospital treating premature babies – War on Gaza Day 723 https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-shells-gaza-city-hospital-treating-premature-babies-war-on-gaza-day-723/
September 30, 2025 at 3:19 pm #196682John Day
ParticipantIsraeli army kills 79 Palestinians in Gaza in past 24 hours https://en.mehrnews.com/news/237075/Israeli-army-kills-79-Palestinians-in-Gaza-in-past-24-hours
Tanks thrust deeper into Gaza, medics say many injured trapped https://www.arabnews.com/node/2617065/middle-east
Israeli army bombs new high-rise tower in Gaza City, displaces hundreds – Plums of smoke seen rising from Mecca Tower after Israeli strike https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-army-bombs-new-high-rise-tower-in-gaza-city-displaces-hundreds/3701703
Spy for us or we’ll kill you all: Israel committing massacres in Gaza over Palestinians’ refusal to collaborate: EuroMed rights group
After nine people from the same family were killed in a strike, Euro-Med said Israel is forcing families to choose between collaboration and death https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-killing-gaza-families-over-collaboration-refusal-euromedNo medicine, no beds, no food or water: inside Gaza City’s main hospital https://israelpalestinenews.org/inside-gaza-citys-main-hospital/
September 30, 2025 at 3:20 pm #196683John Day
ParticipantNearly half of Gaza war deaths reported in areas Israel called ‘safe’ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/27/nearly-half-of-gaza-war-deaths-reported-in-areas-israel-called-safe
Global Sumud Flotilla approaches Egypt’s northern coast, organizers say
‘We expect the Zionists to commit a war crime against us at any time as we are getting closer to Gaza,’ says International Committee for Breaking the Siege on Gaza https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/global-sumud-flotilla-approaches-egypt-s-northern-coast-organizers-say/3701774Berlin’s ‘Together for Gaza’ rally draws tens of thousands protesters urging end to war https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250927-tens-of-thousands-join-together-for-gaza-protest-near-berlin-s-brandenburg-gate
Israel Launches Major Airstrikes on Yemeni Capital, Killing at Least Nine https://scheerpost.com/2025/09/28/israel-launches-major-airstrikes-on-yemeni-capital-killing-at-least-nine/
Israel launches new airstrikes in southern Lebanon despite ceasefire – Israeli strikes target towns of Kafr Rumman, Jarmaq in Nabatieh, Lebanese media says https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-launches-new-airstrikes-in-southern-lebanon-despite-ceasefire/3701731
September 30, 2025 at 3:21 pm #196684John Day
ParticipantUAE reiterates ‘red line’ over West Bank annexation – Only Palestinian statehood can bring an end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a top Emirati official told the 80th UN General Assembly on Saturday.
Lana Nusseibeh, assistant minister for political affairs and envoy of the minister of foreign affairs, repeated the UAE’s warning to Israel over West Bank annexation proposals. https://www.arabnews.com/node/2617029/middle-eastPaul Craig Robertts presents the case that Mossad operatives in Charlie Kirk’s security team murdered him, coordinated by “brown-shirt-guy”, who pokes a button on his left shoulder to fire the shot remotely from somewhere. We Now Have a Fourth Theory of Charlie Kirk’s Assassination
Instead of theories, what we need are facts. Why are there NO FACTS?
Is the purpose of the absence of facts to produce competing theories to argue about and thus bury the facts.
Why can’t some independent authority … say whether there are entrance and exit wounds and what weapon they are compatible with?
Why can’t the bullet be identified if it is true that the surgeon found it in Kirk’s neck “under the skin.”
The absence of the basic facts tells us that we are not meant to know. https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2025/09/28/we-now-have-a-fourth-theory-of-charlie-kirks-assassination/This is my Lone Gunman Not Possible post, which is similar, except I think the bullet came from an “autonomous sentry” compact robo-sniper somewhere in front of Charlie Kirk, maybe firing a .45 ACP unjacketed hollowpoint round. https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/lone-gunman-impossible
Here is a video of the infamous brown-shirt-guy in action https://x.com/Arc740/status/1971749314495156584
October 1 may be the last day for some federal workers: Shutdown Odds Spike After House GOP Refuse To Bring Chamber Into Session: Report https://www.zerohedge.com/political/republican-democratic-leaders-dig-shutdown-standoff-ahead-meeting-trump
September 30, 2025 at 3:22 pm #196685John Day
ParticipantWhite House warns of mass firings if Democrats force gov’t shutdown https://americanmilitarynews.com/2025/09/white-house-warns-of-mass-firings-if-democrats-force-govt-shutdown/
Watching this 5th generation proxy-civil-war develop: Hegseth Sends 200 National Guard Troops Into Portland As Antifa Targets ICE https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hegseth-sends-200-national-guard-troops-portland-antifa-targets-ice
About the 274 plainclothes FBI agents inserted into the crowd: Kash Patel Accuses Christopher Wray of Lying to Congress About Capitol Riot https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/09/28/kash-patel-accuses-wray-of-lying-to-congress-about-capitol-riot-n4944218#google_vignette
Ukraine proxy-war in the age of accurate hypersonic missiles: Russian Missile Strike Destroys Five F-16’s; Kills Numerous NATO Personnell https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/russian-missile-strike-destroys-five-f-16s-kills-numerous-nato-personnell
Double-down. Recruit more losers: Assessing Reports That Ukraine Is Preparing A False Flag Drone Provocation Against NATO https://korybko.substack.com/p/assessing-reports-that-ukraine-is
September 30, 2025 at 3:23 pm #196686John Day
ParticipantMoon of Alabama: Moldova’s Pro-EU Party Wins Vote Due To Manipulation And EU Interference
Sunday election in Moldova was probably the most manipulated one I have ever seen…
..Moldova is, similar to Ukraine, a former Soviet state in which a large part of the population speaks Russian and follows the Orthodox Church. The pro-Russian sentiment is thereby naturally strong…
..President Maia Sandu’s declared policy is to submit Moldova to the EU. Pre-election polls showed her PAS party losing by a wide margin. It was only through intervention from Brussels and outright manipulation of the expat-vote that her party was able to win…
..Sandu herself used every possible trick to eliminate votes for the opposition…
..So, Maia Sandu’s pro-EU PAS scraped 50.16% in Moldova’s election… a bare majority won only after banning at least six opposition parties, trimming Moscow-leaning Transnistria’s polling stations from 41 to 12 under the alibi of bridge repairs, and offering just two in Russia for up to half a million Moldovans, while 73 were opened in Italy for barely a hundred thousand.
A victory on paper, yes… but if the same things happened in Georgia or Serbia, Brussels would denounce such a vote as illegitimate. https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/09/moldovas-pro-eu-party-wins-vote-due-to-manipulation-and-eu-interference/Iurie Rosca (on the run from Moldovan lawfare) Another SOROS-branded electoral farce – Notes on parliamentary elections in Moldova https://iurierosca.substack.com/p/another-soros-branded-electoral-farce
In a bombshell revelation, Telegram CEO Pavel Durov alleged that French intelligence services attempted to strong-arm him into censoring conservative Moldovan channels ahead of last year’s presidential election. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/telegram-ceo-drops-bombshell-claim-about-french-intelligence-offering-him-secret-deal
Oil-rich and almost defenseless: US weighs possible air strikes against Venezuela drug cartels, F-35 jets forward deployed
U.S. weighs airstrikes on Venezuelan drug labs, risking escalation in Latin America’s skies. https://interestingengineering.com/military/us-weighs-possible-air-strikes-against-venezuelaDigital ID card backlash explodes as petition tops one million signatures
The Government has promised a public consultation later this year to hear views on how the scheme should be delivered https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2113853/digital-id-backlash-explodes-petition-keir-starmerSeptember 30, 2025 at 3:25 pm #196687John Day
ParticipantRighteous former UK parliamentarian and newscaster: George Galloway hits out after airport arrest by terror police – telling of nine-hour detention and equipment being seized https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15142701/george-galloway-gatwick-airport-detained.html
Largest Ever Single Vessel Migrant Crossing Puts Starmer Under Fire At Annual Labour Conference The Home Office confirmed that a boat carrying 125 people crossed from France to England on Saturday, breaking a previous record set in August when 107 people arrived in what was dubbed a “mega-dinghy.” https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/largest-ever-single-vessel-migrant-crossing-puts-starmer-under-fire-annual-labour
Grow vegetables if you can: Meryl Nass MD, “There is a Silent Crisis in Farming Looming over us. How will we Obtain the Nutritious Food we seek when the Family Farms are all Gone?” My slides from today’s talk. This is a dire crisis which faces the EATERS as much as the farmers. Please pay attention to this!!! https://merylnass.substack.com/p/there-is-a-silent-crisis-in-farming
Meryl Nass MD, Outraged Farmers Blame Ag Monopolies as Catastrophic Collapse Looms/ Ag Web
The monopolies must be reined in, or we will just be fixing things around the edges without getting to the heart of farm bankruptcies. https://merylnass.substack.com/p/outraged-farmers-blame-ag-monopolies‘Uncompromising and Relentless’: HHS to Study All Possible Causes of Autism, Including Vaccines
The FDA will also immediately add warnings to Tylenol and other products that contain acetaminophen, warning pregnant women of a possible link between acetaminophen and autism, and will also advise physicians about the risks. The agency is also set to approve leucovorin, a medication commonly used to treat cancer, as an autism treatment. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/hhs-to-study-all-possible-causes-of-autism-including-vaccines/September 30, 2025 at 3:26 pm #196688John Day
ParticipantJohn Leake, The Ultimate Deception – Review of Senator Rand Paul’s book, “Deception: The Great Covid Cover-Up” https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/the-ultimate-deception
September 30, 2025 at 3:44 pm #196690Dr D Rich
Participant-
“capital flows”
“Laissez-faire”
“price seeking”
“free markets”“abstention by governments from interfering in the workings of the free market”
“Schrodinger’s War with Russia Not Involving The United States Witkoffism’s Not interfering Envoy”
Crazy as a f*cking LoonWell we the United States made progress because in any other time we’d have witnessed all three Scott Bessent, Steve Witkoffisms, Trump and Comey dressed in paper nightgowns on a locked psych ward fully medicated on Haldol.
Jesus H Christ
September 30, 2025 at 4:15 pm #196691Dr D Rich
Participant4
September 30, 2025 at 4:16 pm #196692Dr D Rich
ParticipantWhere Netanyahu’s Vanity discovered The Ozempic.
September 30, 2025 at 4:21 pm #196693Topcat
ParticipantChristian Zionazis
Phuckem’
Not much smarter than blowup sex dolls
September 30, 2025 at 4:24 pm #196694Topcat
ParticipantMake Ahhhmerica Great Again
September 30, 2025 at 4:27 pm #196695Topcat
ParticipantJimmy ‘Pinch-a-loaf’ Kimmel
He walks among us again.
September 30, 2025 at 4:30 pm #196696Topcat
ParticipantGotta dust off my barbed wire covered bat……
I knew it would become useful again one fine day………
September 30, 2025 at 4:34 pm #196697Topcat
ParticipantThe supine backbone-less British
Ker Stalin’s Digital ID
They will take it up the ass and ask for seconds.
Let’s see if the Vietnamese are whipped dogs….
September 30, 2025 at 4:38 pm #196698Topcat
ParticipantTears, I‘m feelin’ tears comin’
A couple in there must have lost their Man Cards®
September 30, 2025 at 4:42 pm #196699zerosum
ParticipantUS Medical prices going down.
World Medical prices going up.
Med companies laughing all the way to the bank.September 30, 2025 at 4:52 pm #196700those darned kids
Participantoh! america, what hath thou lost?
for many great perils,
thou payeth great cost.oh! america, the treasures a-plundered,
for few are the spoils,
the rest, rent asunder.oh! america, thy spirit, thy soul,
sold to the bidder or crook,
in piece, part or whole.oh! america, thou must pass this test,
for thy message is hopeful,
and i wish thee the best.September 30, 2025 at 4:54 pm #196701zerosum
ParticipantNo more Med. tourists to Canada or Mexico.
September 30, 2025 at 6:12 pm #196702Topcat
ParticipantSeptember 30, 2025 at 8:27 pm #196703charles
Participantscammer call center
https://t.me/Anlystintel/27388September 30, 2025 at 9:16 pm #196704Topcat
ParticipantGirlie ‘men”
The banilty of Evil
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