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  • #197875
    jb-hb
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    It must have looked like London during the Blitz over Germany with all those witches converging on them via broom no doubt.

    #197876
    kultsommer
    Participant

    And there is a move toward the “Trumpian Arc”
    Observe buffoon’s grace in holding the model of the neoclassical contraption, then compare to images of Byzantine kings holding a model of a church that they were patrons of.
    https://x.com/USATODAY/status/1978732699322863651?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1978732699322863651%7Ctwgr%5E8b979626717b31bfa4937b48bdd4fd1fd38b6a29%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dezeen.com%2F2025%2F10%2F16%2Ftrump-triumphal-arch-proposal%2F

    #197877
    kultsommer
    Participant

    If “McDonald Co.” was offered to built the their Golden arch instead, in exchange foe a “substantial donation” toward the ballroom construction, the response would be:
    “Fuck yeah! When we can start?”
    That is the extent of the sense as what is appropriate or culture in general, in the heads of American “business class”.

    #197878
    jb-hb
    Participant

    You might WANT the culture to not think any pride in itself is appropriate – ono! a triumphal arch breaking the norms we told you you had to have – and certainly that has been the goal and the continual message lo these past 70 years.

    I get it. I mean, I’m unmoved, but I get it

    #197879
    Topcat
    Participant

    #197880
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Oh fine then have it your way
    https://preview.redd.it/president-trump-showed-off-models-of-an-independence-arch-v0-4pclw7jurivf1.jpeg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=d94aabd6f3160fa236348731f956e87d3629bc3e

    #197881
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    Right. Doc I have bad news for you, the whole left/right thing is just jew money manipulating, controlling the sheep. They run both sides, turn them against each other, laugh and collect $. The joke’s on you. Old time White people were moral vs. immoral. This is all jew bullshit and deception. More people should see it, they don’t, buried in jew bread and circus.

    #197882
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #197883
    zerosum
    Participant

    Societies have historically selected spiritual or political leaders through signs, divine inspiration, or symbolic succession—but none institutionalize reincarnation searches like Tibetan tulku lineages.

    Americans – political parties
    Indo-European (Aryan) – Nazi
    Hasidic Judaism
    Tibetan Buddhism – Dalai Lama
    Catholicism – Papal Conclave
    Shia Islam – Imamate
    Pre-Columbian Mesoamerican Cultures
    Ancient Egyptian Pharaohs
    ———–
    African Traditions of Symbolic and Spiritual Leadership Selection
    1. Yoruba (Nigeria)
    2. Zulu (South Africa) – Ancestral Signs and Dreams
    3. Ashanti (Ghana) – Stool Succession and Rituals
    4. Buganda (Uganda) – Kabaka Selection
    5. Dagara (Burkina Faso/Ghana) – Divination and Eldership
    ————–

    #197884
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Tommy Robinson’s Israeli Govt-Funded Hasbara Tour Backfires

    Robinson is another shabbos-goy, just like Trump, claiming to be a nationalist when really a Zionist; these plebs will do anything for money and ego.

    #197885
    userzeroid
    Participant

    #197886
    Dr. D
    Participant

    2 weeks no Raul

    “Trump: “I’m glad he feels that way. That’s good. I’ll let you know about it in six months”

    So Trump says nothing. Helmer projects his biases against a Rorhshack spaghetti. So must I, actually, but which of us has been right?

    Alexander ran a very long 40m segment on “Trump betraying Putin in Alaska” blow by blow. Errrr…how? They said words? How is saying words a disaster??? There was no peace conference, then one was invented where a wasteland existed before, they normalized Embassies, 80% of the discussion was on things other than Ukraine, and they went home. HOW DARE YOU SIR??? Have you no humanity?

    Even following Mercouris’ timeline, very, very, VERY simple: Trump was trying to get ANYTHING to stop the war. Wow, like he said, actually! And I hear daily, Haiphong, Schlanger, “Why doesn’t Trump just STOP the war, in Gaza, in Ukraine???!!” BECAUSE IT”S NOT OUR D__N COUNTRY, YOU FOOLS. WHERE did you ever get the idea the U.S. is Israel and the 51st state? JHC. These are the same guys who next sentence will tell us they’re NOT America, America should stay home, and Israel is running us and making US the 51st state.

    Same here. So Alex, after Trump gets the furthest outlier settlement that’s at all possible for Putin to sign – and only barely at that – what must he do next? Next task on to-do list once that’s done? CALL EUROPE AND UKRAINE. Why?

    BECAUSE THEY NEED TO AGREE TO IT TOO, at least as a concept. Ummmm…that’s what “Peace negotiations” are?

    What happens then? Well, Alex conveniently drops out of blow by blow and handwaves- ignores it, but EUROPE SAY NO. Out of hand. So Trump then “Reverses and flip flops” by telling Putin this deal won’t work, here’s the deal they want. With WORDS. Not a single drone took flight or stayed home over these words.

    Now again, why is Trump a back-stabbing criminal for (0.5) Using words) 1) Normalizing relations 2) Starting a long slow discussion for a peace settlement when 3) Russia doesn’t need to make any concessions at all, since they’re taking whatever they want? Well, he’s only passed it obliquely, complaining that “Trump just wants to blame Europe.” then returning to “But Trump is a violent flip-flopping idiot tho.” By being the only guy talking at all? Trump just wants to blame Europe? Follow your own timeline: Trump and Putin establish the very highmost level, probably-impossible peace threshold. Trump takes it to Europe (and his own Derp State finds out) both of whom go mental and say no.

    Alex, my brother: THEN IT’S EUROPE SAYING NO. Not us. He’s BLAMING them? No, he’s pointing at an actual fact. Europe actually IS the obstacle. Trump isn’t wiggling out of it. If everyone’s willing to say yes except one people, who haven’t read anything since there are no details yet. Then, he gets up, does it all over again. Sets up the pins, demonstrates it’s Europe not us, everyone ignores it and calls Trump stupid and Putin a sellout again.

    And for Putin, WHY can he do this? And yes, it IS the most furthest out possible, he’s not offering something he can’t give. It’s because PUTIN KNOWS THIS CAN NEVER HAPPEN. Like the midsummer offer, it’s totally relaxed since there’s no chance that Ukr and NATO will ever say yes. He can offer them the most generous, lavish, peace-loving proposals for every history book, confident he’ll never have to deliver.

    But same logic “Why does Putin TRUST, and BELIEVE the West????!!!” He doesn’t, you idiots. “I’m the only smart person tho”

    All back to what I seem to have to say here: Trump ALSO knows this. So they – and just to waste time, try something, make a public demonstration – set up an offer, to see all Europe reveal themselves and say no. Now what?

    Well, when Pekrovsk and the others fall, and Donbas is complete, Trump will turn around to NATO, Europe, and Ukraine, and say “Dammit, told you so! This is not my fault! Take the d—n peace deal, whatever it is.” Which he DID say publicly, as directly as he can, to Ze, only this week. Like he SAID this, front page, yesterday. Everyone ignores it ’cause Trump stupid tho.

    And insider baseball, WHY is that? Well, they would lose Donbas anyway, since it’s in the Russian Constitution, BUT the Trump-Putin deal MIGHT…if like 50 things happened that Ukr would never agree to – have Russia trade Zap and Kherson for the solid legal admission of Donbas keeping the land bridge but not taking Odessa. London said No.

    So now WHEN Russia finishes Donbas, next week, they absolutely WILL continue in Zap, and over to Odessa, and take those too. Like they wanted and should. It’s extremely generous for Putin to even offer to stop, and it’s only for the history books that he bothers to do so. Then Trump will call in NATO, Europe, and Ze AGAIN, and say “I TOLD YOU SO!!!” “Now Take the Peace Deal!!!!” (P.S. “Now there’s nothing but fighting and dead people because YOU, Europe, didn’t take the deal”)

    And why does he do that for US? Over here, in the U.S. who has and wants nothing to do with it, ever, except for a few “Crazies in the basement”? Because having set all this up, making Europe actively and voluntarily reject all peace of any kind, even a generous peace, and go full war in every possible way, only then can Trump say “We out”, and not only refuse to support London’s latest genocide – against their own people, as well as against Slavs – but even leave NATO altogether by exposing them too. But they’ll say “Trump is an egomaniac and a narccistis, and the only reason he wants a world wide peace plan and not WWIII tomorrow is bc he wants a Nobel Peace Prize”. I DON’T CARE! Give him the d–n peace prize, IDGAF. I don’t care WHY he is doing the right thing, WHY he is ending the war, I CAN’T SEE INSIDE HIS INTERNAL EMOTIONAL STATE and neither do I wish to. We Reward GOOD behavior–whyever you do it — and punish BAD behaviour — whyever you do it.

    Trump wants peace but he’s a jerk tho so we can’t have that. War it is then! Guess that’s how it all ends! Trump begged for peace but he did it for the WRONG REASONS, his emotional expression wasn’t QUIIIIIITE sincere enough for me. Is this feminization of behaviour or what?

    Can’t believe I have to say this and keep saying it every day. I’m using Alex/Duran’s OWN facts, description, and timeline. All I’m saying is “If it’s confusing, it you can’t understand it, then maybe shift to some theory – however wild – where you CAN understand it???” But that would require saying Trump and Putin aren’t in office because they’re morons and limp-wristed yes men. Neither can bring themselves to do that. I think because sadly, they are Europeans. I don’t know what it is, but their sense of innate superiority colors their every perception in a very profound way. Like 100 years after Americans beat them senseless, swooped in bought up all their manor houses n stuff. Still “We’re better, smarter, and more moral tho”. Are you? And Americans don’t really stand on our morality much, at least outside of the TV jingoism. We’re pragmatists, and Americans themselves will all say we’re flawed, and most also internalize that we’re inferior to Europe. Who we beat economically, and even morally, for generations.

    It’s impossible for them to think Europe are war-mongering psychopaths who have no game, and Trump/Putin, by dint of being merely average, and doing obvious stuff, can beat them senseless. It’s impossible for them to imagine both actually want peace EVEN WHEN THEY SIGN PEACE DEALS. While Europe wants war EVEN WHILE EUROPE STOPS THEM.

    And I don’t know why. This is the…how many-eth time we’ve shown this to everyone? Straight back to 2014, straight back to Boris flying over? Nope. Never happened.

    Continuing on, so why would Trump and Putin HAVE a meeting in Budapest when there’s nothing to talk about? I can’t imagine the security arrangements. They’d nuke not only the city but all Hungary FROM ORBIT to get them both. If every Hungarian died, they would consider it not a trade, but a bonus much to be desired.

    Okay, back to what’s going on, AGAIN Alex says we have forced Europe to take our stupid energy deal, and ALSO we don’t have enough gas to fill our end of it. Okay, a couple things: Then knowing this, Germany BLOWS UP their own nuclear reactors, AFTER we’ve “double crossed them” with NordStream, whatever. Hey, before that you might be fooled, before the war, might make sense. But AFTER? You need to convert all Germany, even Europe, to nuclear now and off gas and oil. NOPE!

    Okay, err… Trump/US have signed deals they can’t deliver. …Aaaaaand presumably Europe are not morons either and KNOW we can never deliver? Huh? And everyone signs and smiles? Whut?

    Yeah, because WE’RE TAKING NordSTREAM. This is taking longer, but it’s there. We’re going to deliver RUSSIAN energy to Europe. That’s how they make up a $4B/year shortfall in product. And?

    AND EUROPE HAS TO KNOW THIS. And signed anyway. So Europe is happy to be screwed by the U.S. as middle man, to deliver oil Europe could have had in the first place. They’re just LYING, they’re not telling you. Why? 1) They got in a jam and have no choice. Yeah, sure, but more. 2) All that MONEY will float in the US/EU BANKING system. They don’t care about anything else bc they will collapse otherwise without that bank churn/fill. Doesn’t matter what it costs. 3) More insidiously, since the U.S. is now involved in Russia, they can LEVER this to make America ATTACK Russia and get the oil for free. Plan A. I suspect the US/Russia are dealing equitably as CEO sharks are capable of, but it’s just oil bought in Moscow and laundered to Berlin. They are hoping they can get President Kamala and use this situation to have Milley Nuke Moscow and not have to pay later. They may not be wrong.

    But the point in all this is EUROPE KNOWS THIS. And they’re so very, very proud of their honorable dealings, they won’t tell you or admit it at all. Those bad Americans, whut.

    Venezuela: maybe they’d like to provide some argument and evidence for sinking ships now? Democrats will shut down the government for free illegal immigrant health care while I don’t have any, but not a peep over this, actually impeachable offense. Same as Iran, Israel, Ukraine….

    AI vs Doritos. Never a time AI isn’t working. …To kill kids. Well, that’s Democrats for you. Blue cities are Worker’s Paradise now. Guessing because no pics, the persons they’re harassing and threatening to kill are black?

    Yes, what does Left-Right mean now, even Center/Moderate? Not much, they have erased all words. Do Conservatives erase words, or if you ask them, are they more likely to refer you to the PAST, the history they are “conserving” by directing you to a dictionary? Only yesterday I had a Euro-Socialist, party member, tell me Socialism was when there were market forces actually. Uhhh…no wonder we’re all confused and arguing with you buddy! So when you say “Socialism” and “Socialism works tho” in Nordics, you really mean, “Capitalism” then, do I have that right? Yup! But he’ll be proven right anyway! All he has to do is redefine all the words, and then not tell anybody. Simple.

    In reality, this may not be true worldwide, but here in America it’s simple: If you’re Authoritarian and Centralist, you’re Left. If you’re anti-Authoritiarian, smallest government, most distributed down, you’re the Right. There’s a ton of liars on both sides, but that’s essentially what all the people think. We don’t really have any Right “Let’s make the Federal government large and powerful as possible tho” even among Republicans. +90% don’t trust ANY government at all to do ANY thing, it’s one of their signature features. Centrists then, believe some can work but not too much. These are probably pretty accurate.

    “that people in some other, faraway country live miserably. “

    We actually neither know nor need to care. It’s because they tell Us, HERE, that Socialism works here and this is what they’re installing. Even if we don’t vote for it, lose every vote, they’re doing it anyway. So then we’re stuck asking “So what are your examples?” THEY say Socialism is perfect and works everywhere it’s tried. TO me. In School, TV, online, in every book, movie, since I dunno, even 1930, but certainly since 1970.

    When they say “Capitalism sucks and has all kinds of problems” we say “Sure. What else is new?” Fine. And? Then they say, “So We have to replace it with the Soviet Union, because that system of unicorns and rainbows which works wherever it’s tried” is what sets us off.

    Even now, 30 years after its collapse, we hear we must install that system, which has no downsides anyone’s ever seen in history, by murdering everyone in America right of Mamdani. Join today. And yes, that sets that off, and instead of ignoring it like we want to, force us to do something about it, and that starts us off in a really bad mood, actually.

    Wake up, 11,000th day in a row, yup, AOC and the Squad still making public calls to kill me and everyone I know. After her own mother fled Socialist NY for Republican Florida. Have your paradise, I don’t care, but leave me out of it.

    That is how and the only reason we care about the USSR or Socialism every day. But: 11,001st day in a row, Socialist headlines, NYC, promises to release every violent murderer and rapist day one, and get a few ten-thousand NYers killed. Then we all end up talking about how “Releasing all felons hasn’t worked tho, anywhere it’s been tried” and getting really, really bored saying it.

    #197887
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Is releasing all felons a Socialist platform? A little maybe but I’d say no. They are arguing it on Socialist language, but they also argue the opposite.

    But that’s what MAMDANI says. HE is the one saying he is a Socialist, and this is what Socialist means. “I’m the Joker and just escaped from Arkham.” Vote today.

    Am I not supposed to credit every socialist here when THEY say they are and THEY say this is the basket of policies that is what they mean? I mean, it’s THEIR Treehouse Club. Do what you want. I just report what THEY say they do and are, and call themselves.

    #197888
    those darned kids
    Participant

    hubris will go get you somewhere, just not where you think you are going..

    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115248712390172467

    #197889
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “why is Trump a back-stabbing criminal”

    because he eviscerates little babies. everything else you write is cover for that.

    why do you cover for evil?

    #197890
    those darned kids
    Participant

    holy crap, stop with the socialism nonsense.

    you’re enemies are playing you so well…

    #197891
    those darned kids
    Participant

    socialists aren’t the ones bringing you cbdc and palantir and policestate icethugs.

    and when aoc* is president (sorry, she’s next), THE EXACT SAME THINGS WILL HAPPEN.

    *a socialist in the u.s. congress!? hahaha, you must be on shroooms.

    #197892
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Levitt, home builder in the 40’s: “If everybody owed a home, there would be no communists (or socialists)!”.

    Ability for young (and not so young) to own a home in the US is diminishing fast. So watch out!

    Of course just a joke.
    Note how the capitalist gets under one’s skin through the back door of “care and compassion” or currently popular meme.

    #197893
    Topcat
    Participant

    Worst than Zionism

    Social Credit Experimental Laboratory

    #197894
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ Dr. D

    And I hear daily, Haiphong, Schlanger, “Why doesn’t Trump just STOP the war, in Gaza, in Ukraine???!!” BECAUSE IT”S NOT OUR D__N COUNTRY, YOU FOOLS.

    Who is the fool here?

    Your country is supplying the weapons and money

    Trump can’t do anything about that?

    #197895
    Topcat
    Participant

    What Goes Around Comes Around

    #197896
    zerosum
    Participant

    Can the US have wars with Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, Ukraine and Israel all at the same time?
    Can the US have a fentanyl drug war, a tariff war, an energy/oil/electricity war, a leverage war of $27T, an immigration war and a drone/electronic war, and win?
    Can the US continue its depopulation policies?
    Can the US continue its debt slave social program?
    ————
    SITREP 10/27/25: Pokrovsk Reaches Its Final Arc as Russian Bulldozer Plows Ahead
    Simplicius
    Oct 27, 2025

    https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-102725-pokrovsk-reaches-its
    ———–

    #197897
    jb-hb
    Participant

    holy crap, stop with the socialism nonsense.
    you’re enemies are playing you so well…

    Always the same mime act gets trotted out – Cosmic Coincidence, one only needs to Free One’s Mind if you need to be freed from negative thoughts about socialism – THEN your’e being played.

    Cosmic Coincidence, with 4 years to Free Minds going the other way, nothing ever.

    1. Pretending to not understand
    2. Pretending to forget
    3. Arguing things they themselves do not believe
    4. Accusing decent victims of awfulness – a strategy dependent on charity from one’s moral superiors
    5. Sheer repetition – double triple quadruple down

    Are you seeing ANYTHING that merits TALKING WITH a leftist here? Anything at all that makes it worth ones’ time or energy?

    A normal human being would do something like:

    1. Actually, it’s right to only Free One’s Mind when it comes to criticizing the Left because _____
    2. I didn’t act one sided, here’s all the same amount of time and virtual ink I encouraged PRO leftists to free their minds also
    3. Let me demonstrate through my actions NOW that my behavior is not one-sided.

    So I say this for anyone styling themselves a moderate that is reading.

    There is only doubling down. There is no one to talk to. “moderates” thinking there needs to be compromise or discussion, you need a partner, a good faith actor on the other side and there is nobody home.

    Talking? Compromise? “Unity?” “Coming together?” What are you hoping for and how the hell are you hoping for it? Free your mind.

    #197898
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I just realized with points 1-5 I recreated what Ayn Rand has to say in Atlas Shrugged (using 1,213 less pages to do so…) which gives me a huge headache – please for the love of god, stop making Ayn Rand right. It’s the worst, the absolute worst when that happens.

    #197899
    jb-hb
    Participant

    3I/ATLAS:

    -5 miles long (approximately)
    -comes from interstellar space
    -is decelerating
    -the pure nickel detected without iron or other alloys tends to only exist as a result of industrial processes for things like shipbuilding
    -has a “reverse tail” that “points towards the sun instead of away from it” by which scientists are left “completely baffled” (have we heard that one before?)
    -has “companion objects” going along with it at the same speed (they decelerated together?)
    -electromagnetic radiation appears to be passing between Atlas and these other objects
    -will pass close by Mars

    I only hope scientists can figure out these totally separate anomalies like reverse-facing plume and deceleration.

    As it passes close to Mars, if it were directed to alter course, it could use it to slingshot.

    If course altered, it could be made to rendezvous with Jupiter with relatively little energy expenditure.

    The Jovian system is the obvious place to go for aliens – lots of different types of resources there, the most and largest moons, for starters, plenty of water. For example, Ganymede has an atmosphere, a magnetosphere, and oceans.

    #197900
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “Your country is supplying the weapons and money”

    so

    is

    yours

    .

    #197901
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ Dr. D,
    Re
    might make sense


    Okay, back to what’s going on, AGAIN Alex says we have forced Europe to take our stupid energy deal, and ALSO we don’t have enough gas to fill our end of it. Okay, a couple things: Then knowing this, Germany BLOWS UP their own nuclear reactors, AFTER we’ve “double crossed them” with NordStream, whatever. Hey, before that you might be fooled, before the war, might make sense. But AFTER? You need to convert all Germany, even Europe, to nuclear now and off gas and oil. NOPE!

    Consider this:

    Think of the West including the United States simply as
    a club of money power elites who have run their nations
    to the end game.

    What are a few thousand 0.01 percenters to do?

    Sure would be nice, they may think, if our populations were 0.

    Might that make sense?

    #197902
    those darned kids
    Participant

    writing on wall ignored.

    next!

    #197903
    Topcat
    Participant

    “.. You need to convert all Germany, even Europe, to nuclear now and off gas and oil…”

    #197904
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #197905
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Texas plumber sues Ford reseller….

    Was he envious?
    Reseller sold the truck under the new “MIC pricing”.

    #197906
    those darned kids
    Participant

    headline from anytime, anyday: “Israeli PM Netanyahu orders military to immediately strike Gaza”

    #197907
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #197908
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #197909
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #197910
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ those darn kids

    14 minutes in

    What are we up to now?
    Almost 50 people we killed on the high seas
    with no due process whatsoever
    We are a categorically outlaw state

    #197911
    Topcat
    Participant

    One man’s take on Capitalism ‘up close’ in the USSA

    Robert Downey Jr. Visits Wall Street

    #197912
    Topcat
    Participant

    The Russian Burevestnik nuclear powered unlimted range missiile that Trumptard brushed off.

    I flys fantastically at below 100metered hugging the terrain.

    USSA radr coverage below 100 meters is the second map.

    Notice the astonishing poor coverage between radar circles.

    Russian Burevestnik could enter and fly undetected right across th entire continent.

    Sweet.

    The MIC Maggot Mafia would know what hit them

    #197913
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #197914
    Michael Reid
    Participant

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