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    those darned kids
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    #197957
    those darned kids
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    this trump ‘fellow’ puts the “u” in “can’t”.

    #197958
    WES
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    tdk:

    A rather long list of who’s who fake news outlets!

    Does that make the narrative real or fake?

    #197959
    aspnaz
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    Russia, North Korea and China are testing their nuclear delivery systems – the nuke powered nuke – so it makes sense that the USA’s chief bullshitter should threaten to test the actual nukes, rather than just the delivery systems. After all, Trump the bullshitter said that the USA tests missiles every week, so with all these new delivery systems being tested, isn’t it about time they tested the deliverable.

    Of course, this is blatant one upmanship, Trump cannot handle being the underdog, so he talks shit to cover his tracks. TACO will soon return to put all back into order. If the USA did actually try to publicly test their nuclear systems, the risk is that the rest of the world would see them fail. The USA without a nuclear deterent would be interesting.

    #197960
    aspnaz
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    What is more telling is that Trump thinks he can intimidate Xi by talking shit. Xi didn’t get to where he is by accepting Jew money, he fought long and hard and killed his adversaries. Trump has bone spurs, I don’t think Xi is going to be intimidated by that criminal fuck.

    #197961
    Michael Reid
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    #197962
    Michael Reid
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    #197963
    Dr. D
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    Alex Christoforos “Trump goes all in on Ukraine war” Yes!!! …by not sending Tomahawk missiles only yesterday. This is even the SMART commentators now. And this is AFTER punk’ing and screwing Europe/Ukr thereby.

    Still, RIGHT THERE in front of you, “Trump R Dum, tho.” JHC.

    He always wants war he has peace conferences for and doesn’t send weapons to. Oh he sent weapons to Europe? WITH WHAT MONEY? Oh, Europe suddenly forgot they HAVE NO MONEY??? You don’t say? AND the weapons will be 50 year old Tomahawks and F16s that we’ll deliver in 2028, AFTER the war is over?

    Tell me everso much more about how he’s “All in”, Alex. Fascinating.

    He has them all emotionally reacting, pro and con, and I don’t understand this at all. Where’d their brains go? Why are people drawn into to think about Trump at all? He’s a furry mascot; respect yourself a little, Jesus.

    “Tomahawks would require either the US Army or the Marines to materially alter their force structure in the near term (through 2030, essentially)…Tomahawk ground launch is a brand new capability that is in the middle of deployment and buildout for the first time…”

    Sooo, we’re building out a 50 year old missile for the first time. When it’s radically obsolete. Right. You do know we have Jewish Space Lasers, right? So what’s all this talk here? That’s this whole article here, he discusses the thick of thin things, but doesn’t stop and say “This makes no sense: Why??”

    Why? Because THE PLAN WAS ALWAYS A NATO NUCLEAR WAR. Run from the U.S. That’s it. Europe wins: we take the blame. Russian Rev 2,0.

    Newsflash: THE U.S. IS NOT DOING THAT. Did you notice? Never sent weapons – not REALLY – and not sending anything now. All this sending one bullet at a time has had only one effect: to reel Europe in. Keep them on the hook. People are now commonly discussing how Europe is destroying themselves for America. Yeah. About that!… WHY. Germany, SEEING all this happen, then blew up their OWN reactor, ON PURPOSE. KNOWING the U.S. probably blew Nordstream on them AND the entire German nation is collapsing, helpless.

    That doesn’t happen on its own. Zoom out: it takes BOTH Russia AND the United States to do that. …Yet we’re not Allies? This is all a big accident? That lasts 4 years, 11 years? Every day all that time?

    So the U.S. side is riddled with traitors and operatives – 2/3rds of Congress, for example – but what happens if we can’t/WON’T nuke Russia? Like everything BUT that one thing? A: They lose. Russia wins. And the U.S. wins with them. That’s it. Their Master Plan rested on ONE leg. We kicked the leg. You lose.

    Back to the article, paying all attention to stupid small details and not large important ones, the “Launchers”? Yeah, they work although new but are hilarious. They’re too big to fit on roads, which is a problem, but really in the modern age, there’s zero chance they won’t be destroyed 10 minutes after launching anything, if not long before. You DO know we invented satellites, right? In 1954? So we have two, and they will launch 2 Tomahawks, and be destroyed, and everyone knows it.

    They’d either need to be way smaller or we make 20 a day, and then how do you get them to Dnipr? In a UPS box? They’re too big to move by rail or Euro-roads. Oh we land them in Odessa? Yeah, right.

    None of this is real. Like Trump’s talk, Macrons’, everyone’s, none of the talk is real, almost none of the actions are real. But because we read “words”, we come to sort of feel/act like the words are “real”, being the only representation of the Front we have. They’re not. Gonzalo Lira’s death was real. These 3 years of talk is not. Wake up and stop taking it seriously, it’s like talking about the weapons available in Warhammer 4k.

    It doesn’t matter that such information warfare would have no tangible effect on global processes since all that’s important to Trump is the perception of the US having broken BRICS’ (and especially RIC’s) unity.”

    Internal emotional state of Korybko’s TrumpTelepathy. Okay, man. You do you.

    “Army To Bring Nuclear Microreactors To Its Bases By 2028”

    But we don’t have magic, zero-point energy solutions! That’s just a UFO Conspiracy Theory. They print it for you in the news, over and over, still denied. Why do I bother?

    Venezuela: So there are two crimes: One, we lost 30,000 men a year for 20 years, now rising to 50k. No one cares. Second Crime, we blew up 60 men and 10 boats. Since the first group are Americans and the second group are “brown people” only the brown people matter.

    Go ahead and I’ll address you after you spill an equal amount of ink over attacking US for 20 years killing a million Americans. Starter pack: Is that even wrong? Or is killing a million Americans a Good Thing™? Not to be too snarky, but IF it is bad, AND Venezuela is certainly a state sponsor to killing a million Americans in some regard, THEN what is our solution to it? Sit in a corner and be a good little boy? Wouldn’t want to hit back or nothin’. You know, like usually when a million of your men are killed we call that a war.

    If we break down those Opioid and other deaths into men and women and 300k WOMEN were killed, would you care at all then? Or not if they’re Americans? Or not if a single one of them was white? What is it here? To me ALL people have near-equal value, although I can’t practically address all of them at once, so there is a proximity waiting line.

    You’re 60 ÷ (30,000 x 20) = 10,000 apologies for our murders short of having credibility over this. Let’s say every Brown Venezuelan Drug Murderer is worth 100 American High School kids. You’re still 100 apologies shy of my caring.

    Do dead Americans matter AT ALL, and if so, what do you think we’re going to do about it?

    Other Smart stuff: Buruvestosk “Game Changer”!!!. Which changes no games since we already couldn’t stop Satan II, OR their offshore subs OR their tsunami bombs, OR their… Yes, amazing headlines, muchly.

    Duran “Time is Running Out for Peace” in Ukraine. What are you talking about? There IS no peace there. And later there WILL be peace, guaranteed, most probably when Russia takes it all and dictates the state of all Europe to whatever is left of the EU. There is always peace later, it’s never stopped.

    Anytime, from now to then, we can have peace in 12 hours: just say “Okay, you win” and sign. Same as the budget problem. Nothing happened. Nothing can be stopped. No time is running out. He acts like there isn’t a war but if we don’t look out one might start.

    Same thing is going on there. What is the SNAP thing? Well nobody’s going to wipe out food stamps, so this is the only way to do it, an “Accidental” crisis. Although everyone knew, and they’ve long-since modeled what would happen for years, decades. Okay, and? And when they show up to get food from U.S. Army trucks, ICE is going to check your citizenship. Coincidentally. As is their right. And so 20M immigrants happily go home. To their HOMES. In their COUNTRY. The country of their legal and ethnic citizenship. Where they provide hard work there, fixing THEIR good and worthy lands instead.

    What else? Normal people, strapped tight, see the APPALLING behaviour of welfare recipients. Right now they’re all over saying “You OWE me this, I’m going to rob every store and burn every house.” New color TV!!! Okay, they’re not strong on strategy, but: bad plan. Like BLM burning every black neighborhood, what do you think the people will say after? They’ll say “Reform or erase SNAP, F— this s–.” Yeah, like Ayn Rand has been telling you since 1954. Why do you make Ayn Rand right?

    Just some of the well-planned, well-known effects of SNAP halt.

    What’s the main one? 42 MILLION cards? Hold on: does that even make SENSE to you? And ALL illegal immigrants, “Asylum seekers”? You JUST saw USAID: so you don’t think 20M of those are straight fraud, people who don’t exist, but whose money is funneled back to Soros and 10 CIA drug cartel fronts? OF COURSE IT IS.

    So having hit all their remaining sources of income, as we’ve seen for years, they are hitting this one. If you show up to get food, you don’t starve, you’re fine, no riots. If the person DOESN’T EVEN EXIST then they can’t riot, can they? …But then we don’t need to pay them either.

    So they rent-a-riot, and how are they going to riot with no rent? They’re using OUR money to attack us. Shut off the money. Stop paying your enemy. Not that hard. And that’s not EVEN bad Laquita and Cleetus on SNAP. That’s 20,000 paper Afghans who never existed.

    You think they wouldn’t? Puh-lease.

    Nuclear tests: Which are TALK? As above? Has anything happened? No? Nothing happened. At all. You’re reporting, scared and breathless at what didn’t happen again. And won’t. “But Trump…SAID WORDS!!!! Oh noes!!!” Run around jumping off bridges with our hair on fire: words??? How terrible, how will we survive?

    Other smart stuff: well I’m relieved everyone here has read every CIA report on Russian weapons development for the last 20 years and knows what we know and expected from them. You win the Nobel Prize for first proving a Negative! 1) You did not/have NOT been reading those reports, even the public ones. 2) You do NOT know what Presidents, CIA directors know and don’t know at Top Secret level. They may not have known! Sure! …But you can’t Allege/SAY that. It’s raving nonsense. The only real question is, how CLOSE did they know it? They knew it was this week? Or thought it was “just out there” somewhere, being worked on.

    Aspnaz has been spooning Trump every night and knows what he thinks.

    He also knows what’s going on because he never reads and I never said anything about China. The common enemy for US/Russia, if any, is Europe. As I say about 25 times a day now.

    #197964
    Topcat
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    #197965
    Topcat
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    #197966
    Topcat
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    That was Swift

    #197967
    Topcat
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    China

    The Miracle

    #197968
    Topcat
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    China: Pioneering the Social Credit Score

    If you engage in Wrong Think…

    You get the last one. :>)

    #197969
    kultsommer
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    Still no response from mutual contacts about RIM’s whereabouts?
    “I can not locate Ilargi” would have been a sufficient answer too.

    Hope not, but this site may not exist any longer.

    #197970
    Topcat
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    Speaking of Social Control Grid Systems…..

    The Chinese Communists love this one for gullible USSA teens.

    USSA teens are being targeted by AI chatbots on a massive scale, and most parents have no idea that this is happening.

    When you are young and impressionable, having someone tell you exactly what you want to hear can be highly appealing.

    AI chatbots have become extremely sophisticated, and millions of America’s teens are developing very deep relationships with them.

    In some cases, AI chatbots are making extraordinary claims about themselves. The following comes from a Futurism article entitled “AI Now Claiming to Be God”…

    Hahaha, fabulous!

    Perfect for the average Ah-merican teen: “I use to be all messed up on drugs, now I’m all messed up on the Lord”

    A slew of religious smartphone apps are allowing untold millions of users to confess to AI chatbots, some of which claim to be channeling God himself.

    Apple’s App Store is teeming with Christian chatbot apps. One “prayer app,” called Bible Chat, claims to be the number one faith app in the world, boasting over 25 million users.

    All over the world, people are now seeking spiritual instruction from AI entities.

    This church has an AI Jesus for confessions: ‘It gave me so much advice’

    Just in case artificial intelligence hasn’t been taking on enough jobs lately — now it’s replacing the almighty. A church in Switzerland is now using an AI hologram of Jesus to take confessions from Catholic worshippers,

    “Dubbed Deus in Machina, the futuristic shrine features a confessional booth with a screen displaying the face of Jesus through the grate.

    Before entering, robo-Jesus cautions, “Do not disclose personal information under any circumstances, use this service at your own risk, press the button if you accept.”

    Perfecto!

    AI Right Think coaches

    I’ll take AI Babe over AI Bejesus thank you….

    #197971
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Silly me.
    The two were onto something all along.

    AI and the Digital Revolution Are Bringing a Socialist Revolution

    #197972
    zerosum
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    GAIA sent a messenger
    (The Real Destroyer – Hurricane Melissa)
    The ancient imposters, pretenders, operators, destroyers are leaving death&destruction in Gaza, Ukraine
    ———–

    #197973
    Michael Reid
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    #197974
    zerosum
    Participant

    The ceasefire is holding, just as long as you ignore all the Israeli attacks!

    #197975
    those darned kids
    Participant

    from the book of tdk:


    gold is the ultimate fool’s gold.

    #197976
    Alexander Carpenter
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    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2025/10/29/ai-and-the-digital-revolution-are-bringing-a-socialist-revolution/

    The AI quickdraw is shooting itself in the foot.

    Is all this yet another attempt to overstimulate the minions into outright premature and unequipped rebellion so they can be viciously and definitively suppressed and institute an even more totalitarian governance?

    Will we soon be looking at the governance conundrum “Will American troops shoot Americans in the American streets?” We already have police ready to over-react in otherwise humdrum situations, to SWAT instead of inquire sensibly (and Constitutionally)?

    As Caitlin Johnstone said recently, “Peter Thiel is one of the creepiest people alive. A notoriously nasty and vindictive billionaire, Thiel is a leading architect of the modern imperial surveillance state. His CIA-backed company Palantir has intimate ties to both the US intelligence cartel and to Israel, playing a crucial role in both the US empire’s sprawling surveillance network and Israeli atrocities against Palestinians. The Trump administration has alarmed even the mildest empire critics with its efforts to bring the nation much further under Palantir’s information monitoring umbrella.

    There was a very informative moment last year when Thiel was asked by Piers Morgan whether he agreed with the large sector of the public who viewed the shooter of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson as a hero.

    Thiel paused for a long time, and then stuttered for a long time, and then eventually got out the words, “It’s, I don’t know what, what to say? I, I think I still think you have, you should try to make an argument. And I, I think this is, this is you should, you know, there may be things wrong with our health care system, but you have, you have to make an argument, and you have to try to find a way to convince people and and change, change it by by that, and this is, you know, this is not going to work.”

    They know. The plutocrats are acutely aware that we can get rid of them whenever we want and end the system which empowers them. They think about it a whole lot more than most of us do. It’s never too far from their thoughts. They know there are a lot more of us than there are of them, and that their abuse ends whenever we decide we’ve had enough.”

    https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2025/10/30/new-painting-has-anyone-seen-the-antichrist/

    What will it take to return to a principle-based (as opposed to a “Rules Based”) governance?

    #197977
    zerosum
    Participant

    Trump XI Meeting LIVE | Trump Xi Jinping Meeting On Rare Earth In South Korea | US China Deal | N18G

    #197978
    John Day
    Participant

    @Topcat: Is AI chatbot confessional to God-Proxy a manifestation of “Antichristness”?
    Let’s see where this goes.
    God-proxies have been known to tell people to kill other people, for example.

    #197979
    kultsommer
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    Fall of Matt Taibbi.
    Never hold anybody on high ground without caution of possible betrayal like this.
    Check at 17:00 if inpatient.

    #197980
    kultsommer
    Participant

    imaptient

    #197981
    Michael Reid
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    #197982
    Topcat
    Participant

    @JohnDay

    God-bots are a perfect fit for today’s depressed teenagers already isolated into cubbyholes by the internet.

    No real life friends or interactions with actual people polytheism is perfect for the Super Heroes’ Pantheon which exists in today’s movie and media.

    The Venn Diagram tension of monotheism vs polytheism theology works as an energy force field on young impressionable minds.

    Understanding polytheism is like that old joke about a zebra is a horse design by a committee.

    #197983
    Topcat
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    You are sooo Beautiful….

    Take me to your Leader…..

    #197984
    Michael Reid
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    #197985
    John Day
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    @Topcat:All of the “theisms” seem to have been used to steer people wrong. We should all be careful about letting another make our moral decisions, especially when we sense that there is something wrong.
    Most people are afraid to decide for themselves, which is both good and bad…

    #197986
    Michael Reid
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    #197987
    those darned kids
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    what we need is a decider….

    #197988
    Michael Reid
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    #197989
    Michael Reid
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    #197990
    Michael Reid
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