(No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025
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October 17, 2025 at 6:43 pm #197541
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ParticipantOctober 17, 2025 at 7:21 pm #197542Michael Reid
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ParticipantOctober 17, 2025 at 7:40 pm #197544Dr D Rich
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Full-throatedly full-throatednessly from Jon Lovitz.
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Chosen by God? You think you’re better than everyone else?” This, I believe, is a GIANT source of antisemitism. This CRAP spouted by this loathsome women, is 100% false. The word “chosen” means you have made a choice to follow the Ten Commandments, respect life and try to do the right thing, morally in any social situation. You don’t have to be Jewish to live your life this way. But this idea, was “chosen” by people, who became the first Jews, over 5,780 years ago. The Jewish religion does not try to convert people. Because, you have to choose to live your life this way.
This “above” arose from a spirited ((holy ghost)) exchange about Pakistani forces hunting down ((animal goyim analog)) anti-Israel protesters, i suppose, in Pakistan protesting not Jews not Jewishness and certainly not Only-Good-Meaning-Intentioned Judaism. Dlogic.
Dlogic.
….but at least (((they))) DON’T”recruit”.Doesn’t the latter define exclusiveness? What better way than that or that than, ThatanosTheranos
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October 17, 2025 at 8:08 pm #197545John Day
ParticipantTopsy Turvy https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/topsy-turvy
Thanks Dora: Transcript: Alex Jones on Globalist Death Cult Fueling the Next Civil War – Tucker Carlson Show
TUCKER CARLSON: What is the Podesta plan?
ALEX JONES: Well, when I talk about this, I get chills because in August of 2020, Breitbart wrote about it, the Daily Caller wrote about it, but the New York Times wrote about it first. And Podesta does this big Democrat Party war game.
TUCKER CARLSON: Which Podesta? John?
ALEX JONES: John Podesta, former White House. Yep. Absolutely. And then later, the climate czar for Biden… He comes out with this huge report. They published the whole thing, and I read it. It’s like 70 pages or something.
And they say if Trump wins in 2020 (this is in August, months before which they were able to steal it. So he didn’t.)
He said, “We’re going to have western states secede. We’re going to have blue cities secede. But we’ll start with the western states, California, Oregon and Washington, and we’ll call it over migrants and sanctuary cities and healthcare at first,” which they’re now doing.
I’m getting chills because it’s all happening… I mean, it’s all right there. And they say if he wins, we will say it’s illegitimate. We will have blue states first secede and that they’re going to be sanctuary cities for the illegals.
Then when there’s civil unrest, which they’ll furnish, Trump will send the National Guard and then there’ll be a massacre of the migrants, and then we will kick off a civil war. Then all the blue cities across the country will secede. Then New York, Massachusetts and others will secede, and we’ll form what we call the Western Alliance.
And we will, then the US Military will be with us because they control the generals…That was Trump’s big mistake. He found out most of them are globalist. It’s the top, not your enlisted. They’re great people.
And that they would then form a military alliance if Trump didn’t stand down and they would march on D.C. And then they made a movie produced two years ago they released last year called “Civil War.” That is the last act of the Podesta plan. That’s in a two plus year Civil War race based…
..So the US Military reconvenes under a Gavin Newsom’s command type. And then they come in and then they take over the country and then they re-educate all the evil right wingers and evil white people.
And then I saw Gavin Newsom on Colbert about three weeks ago and he said, “Oh, we’re forming,” they hold a map up, “the Western Alliance and it’s for migrants and healthcare and we’re getting ready to go on offense.” …
..We have countless videos at rallies in Austin and Denver and New York where the left goes, “Soon Trump and Homan will kill a bunch of us. And when they do, that’s when the uprising begins.” So they’re all read in on this. They all know it is the Podesta plan. They all know it’s the Western Alliance. They all know it’s the Western offense…
..But my point is now you have the No Kings this weekend. And we now have Schumer on Monday went on MSNBC and said, “We need to have a forceful uprising. We need to have a forceful uprising.” https://singjupost.com/transcript-alex-jones-on-globalist-death-cult-fueling-the-next-civil-war-tucker-carlson-show/Free Press mostly declines loyalty oath: Reporters Leave Pentagon En Masse After All But One Outlet Rejects New Rules https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/reporters-leave-pentagon-en-masse-after-all-one-outlet-rejects-new-rules
‘Shut Up!’: Nancy Pelosi Snaps At Reporter Over Jan. 6 National Guard Accusation (Touche’) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shut-nancy-pelosi-snaps-reporter-over-jan-6-national-guard-accusation
John Helmer, WHAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT THE TRUMP-MILLER WHITE HOUSE THAT PRIME MINISTER CARNEY IS MISJUDGING (NOT ONLY HIM)
Manipulating the US president to make his domestic and foreign policy decisions as Stephen Miller of the White House is doing with President Donald Trump is not new.
Jimmy Carter tried to dismantle the bureaucracy and the mindset (ideology) of the “imperial presidency”, as he called the White House during the election campaign of 1976. But then Carter fell under the spell of National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski; he controlled what the president was told was the evidence for his policy choices, the risks, and the consequences. In this way, Brzezinski more than influenced the policy outcomes Carter believed he was deciding for himself.
(One of them was the secret US war with the Kremlin in Afghanistan.)
Carter required that his decision-making process start and end on paper; he read reams of it in the personal study off the Oval Office. He demanded his intelligence briefing every morning. However, connected by an internal passage of connecting doors, Brzezinski supervised what was in the papers and vetted who walked in the outer Oval Office door to have words with the President.
Trump prefers pictures, screens of them, and he gets one intelligence briefing per week, followed by interpretation over lunch in the private White House dining room from Vice President JD Vance. Miller controls the paper, especially the virtual posts, the press gaggles on aircraft in flight and airfields at takeoff and landing, and in the Oval Office. Vance coaches Trump through his misspeaking, memory failures, political gaffes.
Listen now to the way in which the method and purpose of these new men differs from anything in the history of the American presidency; and how the leaders of the European allies, the UK, and Canada exploit what they believe they know in order to get the policy decisions they want from Trump — that is, after Miller, Vance and others have decided and Trump has been persuaded. https://johnhelmer.net/gorilla-radio-what-everyone-needs-to-know-about-the-trump-miller-white-house-that-prime-minister-carney-is-misjudging-not-only-him/#more-92572October 17, 2025 at 8:09 pm #197546John Day
Participant Trump says he will meet Putin in Hungary for Ukraine talks after ‘very productive’ call
US President Donald Trump says “great progress” was made during a phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday, with the pair agreeing to face-to-face talks in Hungary.
He said the call, the first with Putin since mid-August, was “very productive”, adding that teams from Washington and Moscow will meet next week...
..Trump also said he would update Zelensky on his talks with Putin on Friday, adding: “I believe great progress was made with today’s telephone conversation.”
He later told reporters he expected to meet Putin “within two weeks”.
Asked about the prospect of giving the missiles to Ukraine after his call with Putin, Trump said “we can’t deplete” the US stockpile of Tomahawks, adding “we need them too… so I don’t know what we can do about that”. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crmxz37nv3zo Aide to the President of Russia Yury Ushakov: Colleagues,
Today in the afternoon, Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation, the eighth one, with US President Donald Trump.
The conversation lasted almost two and a half hours. Clearly, it was a rather substantive and at the same time very open and frank exchange. http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/78237Zelensky not greeted at Airport by Americans: Trump’s Stunning Move Shocks World – Storming Of Konstantinovka Has Begun – Military Summary 2025.10.17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKoLyj1KXpg
Very heavy handed methods make regular people feel like what? Feds ram SUV after chase down residential street in Chicago, then tear-gas crowd
The crash happened late Tuesday morning near 105th Street and Avenue N in the East Side neighborhood. Two men being pursued were arrested as were two bystanders. The crash drew dozens of neighbors who protested the tactics of immigration agents. https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/10/14/crash-involving-immigration-agents-in-east-side-leads-to-tear-gas-detentions He might have been despondent… Bondi DOJ Backs Warrantless Invasion Of Gun Owners’ Homes
The Department of Justice under Attorney General Pam Bondi is advancing an argument that threatens to hollow out the Fourth Amendment’s core protection: that Americans may be secure in their homes against warrantless searches.
The lawsuit is Case v. Montana. After a difficult breakup, William Trevor Case was at home alone when police arrived for a so-called “welfare check.” They spent nearly an hour outside his house. Officers walked around the property, shined flashlights through windows, and even discussed calling his relatives or reaching him directly. They never did. Instead, they retrieved rifles and a ballistic shield, broke down his door without a warrant, and shot him.
The Montana Supreme Court upheld the police’s warrantless entry. Apparently, the government’s “reasonable suspicion” that Treavor Case might need “help” was sufficient to justify an armed warrantless intrusion into his home. That standard is alarmingly low. The Fourth Amendment requires probable cause and judicial approval before government agents may enter a home. It does not permit entry based on a hunch. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bondi-doj-backs-warrantless-invasion-gun-owners-homesOctober 17, 2025 at 8:10 pm #197547John Day
Participant$28,000/oz could purportedly work as a 1:10 fractional-reserve $US gold standard. CELENTE: U.S. could pump up gold prices to pay down debt https://trendsinthenews.substack.com/p/celente-us-could-pump-up-gold-prices
Quoth The Raven, Shit Is Breaking…And It Will Get Worse
Literally one day after I reiterated my extremely bearish outlook on regional banks, they are getting crushed again. Meanwhile, gold goes parabolic. https://quoththeraven.substack.com/p/shit-is-breakingand-it-will-get-worseAndrew Korybko observes that Russia, China and India are not divided against each other now: Trump 2.0’s Eurasian Balancing Act Has Failed https://korybko.substack.com/p/trump-20s-eurasian-balancing-act
Alex Krainer presents the conceptual key: The price of Venezuela’s democracy
Those gunning for Venezuela are on Wall Street and in the City of London and the stakes are beyond huge.
Yesterday, Venezuelan opposition leader and the newest nobel prize laureate, Maria Corina Machado gave a podcast interview to Donald Trump Jr., during which she gave an inspirational, moving speech about how much money the U.S. companies will make in Venezuela once she takes power: “Forget Saudi Arabia, I mean we have more oil than them, I mean endless possibilities. We will privatize our entire industry for you. American companies will profit greatly!” …
..Of course, everyone understands that the real reason for the regime change is Venezuela’s oil wealth. But as we learned from the New York Times last week, President Maduro did reach out to the Trump administration, offering his country’s resources to the U.S. in order to avoid a military conflict…
..The answer from the Trump White House was, NO, confirmed with yesterday’s killing of another six very bad people on a Venezuelan boat…
..If Maduro was offering what the Trump administration wanted, and they could have had it without a fight, then why was that offer declined? In general, resources can always be obtained through trade. For the regional behemoth like the United States, they would always be able to negotiate guaranteed long-term contracts on very favorable terms, so Venezuela’s riches could flow to the U.S. markets even without Maria Corina Machado and still, the “American companies would profit greatly.”
It’s all about bank collateral
So then, how is Maduro a problem, and Machado the solution? As always, the key element in the geopolitical equation isn’t the resources as such, but resources as collateral. With political control over Caracas, Venezuelan resources would become the collateral of U.S. and other Western banks. Their clients – companies like BP, Shell, Exxon Mobil and even the Venezuelan state itself – would be able to obtain credit secured with Venezuelan oil, gold and other resources. In this way, Venezuela’s natural resource wealth magically turns into profit-generating assets on the balance sheets of banks like JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and others…
..To appreciate just how big an incentive this could be, back in April I wrote about the case of Alberta’s 175 billion barrels of proven oil reserves which, once they came under control of Rockefeller interests in New York in early 2000s, provided $9 trillion in new collateral (see the article and video linked below). The bulk of that collateral ended up fuelling the $5 trillion mortgage bubble which then burst in 2007/8.
After the bailout, the banks walked away with at least $16 trillion in profits, which works out to more than $42,000 per man woman and child living in the United States. That business model far eclipses oil trade, military industrial complex and all other industries. It truly is the business to kill for...
..It is obvious that with some 300 billion barrels of oil reserves, the collateral that Venezuela could provide would far eclipse that of Alberta. https://alexkrainer.substack.com/p/the-price-of-venezuelas-democracy B-52s: Siege of Venezuela Escalates With Strategic Bombers Over the Caribbean, as Trump Administration Reportedly Unleashes CIA Covert Operations on Venezuela, Including Lethal Action https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/10/siege-venezuela-escalates-strategic-bombers-caribbean-as-trump/
October 17, 2025 at 8:12 pm #197548John Day
ParticipantVenezuela has no Pacific coast: Coast Guard Seizes 100,000 Pounds Of Cocaine Since August In Eastern Pacific https://www.zerohedge.com/political/coast-guard-seizes-100000-pounds-cocaine-august-eastern-pacific
Escape Key on smart-money, transaction-controlled by AI, From Rosalind to Mandala – How the BIS is Building a Planetary Control System
On paper, the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) Innovation Hub is merely modernising the financial system. Its projects — Rosalind, mBridge, Mandala — are pitched as solutions for faster payments and smarter compliance.
Look closer, and a different picture emerges. These are not isolated proofs of concept; they are interlocking components of a planetary-scale adaptive management system, where money becomes a programmable control surface for policy enforcement. https://escapekey.substack.com/p/from-rosalind-to-mandala Escape Key, Internet algorithmic adaptive financial governancewas not foreseeable in the late 1700s. A Constitutional Void
In 2025, three US policy shifts quietly transformed government into an adaptive governance engine. When considered together, they assemble a compliant American node within an emerging, automatic planetary adaptive management system.
This is not a warning about what’s coming. It’s documentation of what already happened while no one was watching...
..When the Council for Inclusive Capitalism explicitly advocates for financial systems that enforce social and environmental outcomes, and the BIS simultaneously builds the technical infrastructure to make transactions conditional on ESG compliance, we are observing not parallel evolution but coordinated implementation.
Project Gaia automates corporate climate disclosure verification; Project Symbiosis tracks supply-chain emissions; Mandala embeds policy compliance — including presumably ESG criteria — directly into cross-border payment protocols. The ideological framework names the goal: align capitalism with stakeholder values rather than shareholder returns.
The technical architecture provides the enforcement mechanism: programmable money that only clears when algorithmic checks confirm compliance with those values. This is not reform or evolution — it is replacement of market coordination through price signals with algorithmic steering toward predetermined policy targets. Whether achieved through explicit conspiracy or through aligned institutional incentives among central banks, global governance bodies, and major financial institutions that share both ideology and technical capacity, the outcome is identical: economic participation becomes conditional upon compliance with machine-readable rules that encode ‘inclusive’ priorities directly into the unit of account itself.
The infrastructure does not enable this transformation — it is this transformation, dressed in the language of modernisation and efficiency. https://escapekey.substack.com/p/a-constitutional-voidGoldman’s “6 Ps” Framework: The Forces Driving Growth & Constraints In AI Data Center Universe https://www.zerohedge.com/ai/goldmans-6-ps-framework-forces-driving-growth-constraints-ai-data-center-universe
”Your” kidneys, for instance… BlackRock CEO Larry Fink: This Is Only the Beginning — the Tokenization of Everything Is Underway https://rumble.com/v70c6bs-blackrock-ceo-larry-fink-this-is-only-the-beginning-the-tokenization-of-eve.html?e9s=src_v1_upp_a
October 17, 2025 at 8:12 pm #197549WES
ParticipantDaylight Savings?
Has Trump forgotten all about it, or just hasn’t made up his mind?
October 17, 2025 at 8:13 pm #197550John Day
Participant“President” Larry Ellison, From AI to TikTok to TV, This Pro-Israel Billionaire Is Expanding Power in US
Ellison, the founder of the tech giant Oracle, is quickly emerging as the new face of oligarchic power in the U.S. Oracle has become an AI powerhouse at the same time Ellison and his son David have acquired Paramount and its vast media empire. With Donald Trump’s recent executive order, Ellison and Oracle will also now oversee TikTok’s algorithms, shaping a platform that reaches 150 million U.S. users.
What’s more alarming than Ellison’s sheer wealth — in September, he briefly surpassed Musk as the world’s richest person — is that he’s building his concentrated power and control in collaboration with the Trumpian project of attacking so-called “wokeness,” all while supercharging the corporate expansion of artificial intelligence and tech surveillance.
Moreover, Ellison is a vocal supporter of the Israeli military and a close confidant of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. As Israel looks to repair its image after two years of overseeing a genocide in Gaza, it’ll have a powerful booster in Ellison and his new media kingdom...
..Ellison has power. Notably, he’s forged a close relationship with Donald Trump, with one Trump adviser calling him a “shadow president of the United States.” …
..This is seen starkly in Oracle’s stunning ascendency in the rush around generative AI. Oracle has rapidly secured nearly a half-trillion dollars in contracts to supply computing power through data centers to AI companies, joining the ranks of powerhouses like Microsoft and Amazon.
A huge swath of Oracle’s AI business comes from a $300 billion deal with OpenAI, the maker of ChatGPT. Oracle’s partnership with OpenAI was supercharged by Trump’s announcement in January of the Stargate AI joint venture, which The New York Times called an “early trophy” for Trump...
..His family’s media company, Skydance, which is financially backed by Larry Ellison and run by his son David, struck a deal in 2024 to acquire Paramount, owner of CBS and a top-five movie studio along with a slew of popular cable channels…
..Soon after, the Ellisons signaled their rightward swing with the $150-million hiring of Bari Weiss, founder of the anti-“woke” Free Press, as CBS News’s editor-in-chief, and their appointment of Kenneth Weinstein, former head of the conservative Hudson Institute think tank, as CBS’s new ombudsman, a position they agreed to fill as part of the merger’s approval.
The Ellisons’ quest for media dominance doesn’t end with Paramount. They’re reportedly eying Warner Brothers, the iconic movie studio and owner of CNN and HBO...
..Donald Trump attacked TikTok for years as part of his wider campaign against China, but the effort to ban the app gathered momentum in 2024.
As Israel carried out its genocide in Gaza, many politicians blamed the popular app, which has 150 million U.S. users who skew young, for spreading anti-Israel views because its algorithms showed the vast scale of Gaza’s destruction and the killing of Palestinians...
..But Larry Ellison is the true winner of Trump’s TikTok decree. In addition to a “rumored” 15 percent stake in the app, Oracle will serve as the “security provider” overseeing TikTok’s algorithms in the U.S.Trump joked that he’d like to make TikTok’s algorithm “100% MAGA” when he signed the new executive order in September.
For Ellison, all his new acquisitions present the opportunity to forge a truly novel corporate mega-empire that will dominate the U.S. media and attention economy, injecting his agenda like a thread across an AI-powered chain of news outlets, streaming sites, film studios, and social media outlets...
..All of this is very good for Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel’s vast influence operation.
Ellison is a staunch backer of Israel. He is one of the top donors to the Friends of the Israel Defense Forces (FIDF), a U.S. nonprofit that effectively subsidizes the Israeli military. Ellison has given the FIDF at least $26.6 million.
“I feel a deep emotional connection to the State of Israel and the Israeli people,” Ellison said at the 2014 FIDF gala. “We love the country of Israel and we’ll do everything we can to support the country of Israel,” he added, with his “we” seeming to refer to Oracle...
..Netanyahu recently called TikTok “the most important purchase going on right now,” adding that “weapons change over time,” and the most important ones today “are on social media.”
Now Oracle, led by Netanyahu’s friend and staunch ally Larry Ellison, is overseeing TikTok’s U.S. algorithms. https://scheerpost.com/2025/10/14/from-ai-to-tiktok-to-tv-this-pro-israel-billionaire-is-expanding-power-in-us/ From Eleni, Who is Larry Ellison?
Blair has recently emerged as “a potential Gaza interim consul and member of Donald Trump’s ‘board of peace.’”
Given that Ellison and Blair are both central to the Trump/Zionist plan, we might ask if they are also aware of each other? In fact, they are very closely intertwined.
According to Lighthouse Reports: Ellison invested $130 million in the Tony Blair Institute between 2021 and 2023, with a further $218 million pledged since then. The scale of funding took the TBI from a headcount of 200 to approaching 1,000. Blair himself takes no salary from TBI, but over this time, the institute has been able to recruit from bluechip firms like McKinsey and Silicon Valley giants Meta. In 2018, before the Oracle founder’s funding surge, TBI’s best-paid director earned $400,000. In 2023, the last year where accounts are available, the top earner took home $1.26 million. https://trackingpower.substack.com/p/who-is-larry-ellison-and-how-doesI also ask this question. Is A Holy Awakening Unfolding Across America ? https://www.zerohedge.com/political/holy-awakening-unfolding-across-america
Seek to aid the loving and harmonizing Divine Intentions: In A World Filled With Chaos, There Is Power Within Our Reach To Make A Difference https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/world-filled-chaos-there-power-within-our-reach-make-difference
Judicial Watch Sues CIA for Jeffrey Epstein Records https://www.judicialwatch.org/cia-jeffrey-epstein-records/
October 17, 2025 at 8:14 pm #197551John Day
ParticipantKnown from the outset: October 7, 2023: Is Gaza-Israel Fighting “A False Flag”? They Let It Happen? Their Objective Is “to Wipe Gaza Off the Map”? https://www.globalresearch.ca/is-the-gaza-israel-fighting-a-false-flag-they-let-it-happen-their-objective-is-to-wipe-gaza-off-the-map/5835310
Caitlin Johnstone quotes Greta’s and other prisoner’s statements, direct testimony: Israel Tortured And Sexually Humiliated Greta Thunberg https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/israel-tortured-and-sexually-humiliated
Israel kills 7 more civilians in Gaza despite ceasefire deal https://www.bastillepost.com/global/article/5283170-israel-kills-7-more-civilians-in-gaza-despite-ceasefire-deal
Gross violation: Israel to prevent ‘full amount’ of aid from entering through Rafah until dead captives released: Report
The Red Cross is warning that finding the dead captives is a ‘massive challenge’ due to the rubble left behind by airstrikes, and that some may never be found https://thecradle.co/articles/israel-to-prevent-full-amount-of-aid-from-entering-through-rafah-until-dead-captives-released-report The UN said Israel would allow 300 trucks to enter Gaza, half of the previously agreed number. Israel has said Hamas has been too slow in returning the bodies of dead hostages. https://www.dw.com/en/israel-tells-un-humanitarian-trucks-into-gaza-to-be-cut/live-74347811
October 17, 2025 at 8:15 pm #197552John Day
Participant Pay high rent and be a “human shield” in Israel: Secret Israeli military bunker located under Tel Aviv tower struck by Iran, analysis shows
The Grayzone has geolocated the underground bunker of an important military command and control center nestled within a densely populated Tel Aviv neighborhood. Known as ‘Site 81,’ the U.S.-built facility houses a hyper-secretive intelligence base. https://thegrayzone.com/2025/10/13/secret-israeli-military-bunker-located-under-tel-aviv-tower-struck-by-iran-analysis-shows/Gaza ceasefire outlook darkens as Israel delays aid and Hamas tightens grip https://www.arabnews.com/node/2618863/middle-east
Trump Warns If Hamas Doesn’t Disarm, ‘We Will Disarm Them, Maybe Violently’ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-warns-if-hamas-doesnt-disarm-we-will-disarm-them-maybe-violently
Israeli funded & supplied murderers: Deadly Clashes Erupt Between Hamas and Doghmush Clan in Gaza After Ceasefire ,Who Are the Doghmush and Why the Violence? https://www.thedefensenews.com/news-details/Deadly-Clashes-Erupt-Between-Hamas-and-Doghmush-Clan-in-Gaza-After-Ceasefire-Who-Are-the-Doghmush-and-Why-the-Violence/#google_vignette
Murdered very recently by Doghmush Clan: Instagram has removed the verified account of Gaza slain journalist Saleh al-Jafarawi, who had 4.5 million followers.
Archived snapshots of his page on the Wayback Machine, the largest public internet archive, also appear to have been wiped or disabled, raising concerns about digital erasure of Palestinian documentation. Al-Jafarawi, known for his frontline reporting on the Gaza genocide, had previously faced repeated censorship. He was killed yesterday by an armed group collaborating with Israel. Observers warn that these developments may signal “a new phase in efforts to erase evidence of Israeli war crimes from the internet.” https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1977855290579075424October 17, 2025 at 8:16 pm #197553John Day
Participant Trump Says ‘Will Decide’ on Solution to Middle East Conflict
Addressing the decades-long Palestinian-Israeli conflict, Trump noted “a lot of people like the one state solution, some people like the two state solutions. We’ll have to see.””I will decide what I think is right, but I’d be in coordination with other states and other countries,” he told journalists aboard Air Force One. Around three-quarters of the 193 UN member states recognize the Palestinian state proclaimed in 1988 by the exiled Palestinian leadership.
The United States, Israel’s closest ally, criticized the decision last month by allies including Britain and Canada to recognize Palestine as a state. https://english.aawsat.com/arab-world/5197077-trump-says-%E2%80%98will-decide%E2%80%99-solution-middle-east-conflict%C2%A0Tony Blair and the Gaza Trap: Continued Colonial Control Disguised as “Transition” https://www.globalresearch.ca/tony-blair-gaza-trap-continued-colonial-control/5902899
Hebrew-language Israeli media reports say there is a “secret clause” buried in the Gaza ceasefire agreement that would allow Israel to resume the war. Palestinians worry this is the pretext Netanyahu needs to get out of completing the deal.
On Friday (October 10), Al Jazeera’s Palestine Bureau Chief Walid al-Omary pointed out on the network’s live broadcast that the second article of the deal concerning the release of Israeli captives included a phrase in the Hebrew version about an undisclosed annex. According to al-Omary, if Hamas fails to release all Israeli captives, dead and alive, a “secret clause in appendix B” would be “activated.” https://israelpalestinenews.org/israeli-media-peace-deal/ Baghdad sets 2028 deadline to end Iraqi dependence on Iranian gas
The Iraqi government has faced intense pressure from the US in recent months to disengage from Iran https://thecradle.co/articles/baghdad-sets-2028-deadline-to-end-iraqi-dependence-on-iranian-gasGilbert Doctorow on the continuation of Russian – Syrian relations, which are necessary for Syria: NewsX World: Putin Meets Syrian President https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2025/10/16/newsx-world-putin-meets-syrian-president/
October 17, 2025 at 8:17 pm #197554John Day
ParticipantI am surprised at that large number. UK Delivers Over 85,000 Military Drones to Ukraine in Six Months To Counter Russian Drones https://www.thedefensenews.com/news-details/UK-Delivers-Over-85000-Military-Drones-to-Ukraine-in-Six-Months-To-Counter-Russian-Drones/
20 – 50; no nuclear warheads, right? Experts have named the number of Tomahawks in the US and the possible batch to be sent to Kyiv. https://en.topwar.ru/272267-jeksperty-nazvali-chislo-tomahawk-u-ssha-i-vozmozhnuju-partiju-dlja-otpravki-kievu.html
Tomahawk missiles are usually launched from ships, but these robo-truck launchers can carry 4 each: Missile-armed autonomous launchers from Oshkosh Defense and Raytheon DeepFires were out in force at the Association of the U.S. Army’s (AUSA) main annual symposium.
The FMAV series from Oshkosh Defense comprises three different truck chassis that can carry a wide variety of weapons. The three vehicles are described as being “production-ready” by the manufacturer and comprise the following:
The largest of the FMAV series, the purpose-built X-MAV is able to support long-range munitions, including a podded launcher with four Tomahawk missiles. The 10×10 wheeled chassis offers off-road mobility, as well as integrated onboard power. Oshkosh is aiming the X-MAV at the U.S. Army’s Common Autonomous Multi-Domain Launcher Heavy (CAML-H) program. https://www.twz.com/air/autonomous-launchers-make-impact-as-army-requirements-growMake It Rain: Ukraine Wants Up To $20BN In Arms From NATO Backers Next Year https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/make-it-rain-ukraine-wants-20bn-arms-nato-backers-next-year
Only 3% of Ukrainian refugees likely to return in worst-case scenario, Ifo study warns
Most Ukrainian refugees living in Europe who would consider returning home after the war want security guarantees like NATO membership, as well as the return of territory, the addressing of corruption, and economic stability https://rmx.news/article/only-3-of-ukrainian-refugees-likely-to-return-in-worst-case-scenario-ifo-study-warns/October 17, 2025 at 8:22 pm #197555John Day
ParticipantNo iPhones, data-centers, Teslas, fighter planes, etc. without Chinese minerals: The Slowly Mounting Mineral Shock https://realclearwire.com/articles/2025/10/13/the_slowly_mounting_mineral_shock_1140722.html
China vows to ‘fight to end’ in escalating trade war with US https://en.mehrnews.com/news/237692/China-vows-to-fight-to-end-in-escalating-trade-war-with-US
Words are free: US Treasury chief says struggling China wants ‘to pull everybody else down with them’
‘They are in the middle of a recession/depression, and they are trying to export their way out of it. The problem is they’re exacerbating their standing in the world,” Bessent tells Financial Times https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-treasury-chief-says-struggling-china-wants-to-pull-everybody-else-down-with-them-/3717206Watch: Google Pixel Fold “Explodes” During Durability Test https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/watch-google-pixel-fold-explodes-during-durability-test
At least a10 year project; refining is a ghastly mess: ‘We Need To Act Now’: JPMorgan Launches $1.5 Trillion Initiative To Reduce U.S. Reliance On China
From Wall Street to the White House, critical mineral mining is the issue of the moment. https://www.dailywire.com/news/we-need-to-act-now-jpmorgan-launches-1-5-trillion-initiative-to-reduce-u-s-reliance-on-chinaOctober 17, 2025 at 8:24 pm #197556John Day
ParticipantMore Than An Accident? Kyle Bass Sounds Alarm On U.S. Military Explosives Supply Chain After Tennessee Plant Blast
The massive blast that rocked a Tennessee explosives plant last week that killed 16 people has caught the attention of Kyle Bass, founder and chief investment officer of Hayman Capital Management, who warned about potential sabotage by foreign adversaries. Investigators are still trying to determine what sparked the explosion.
“The Accurate Energetics Systems explosion in Tennessee demands urgent, independent scrutiny. With China moving aggressively toward Taiwan and historical precedents of sabotaging munitions facilities, we cannot dismiss the possibility this was more than an accident,” Bass wrote on X.
He continued, “AES provides over 60% of the Department of War’s high-explosives systems, losing it for years is a strategic shock. Every indicator and warning in the system is flashing red.” https://www.zerohedge.com/military/more-accident-kyle-bass-sounds-alarm-us-military-explosives-supply-chain-after-tennesseeMaximum-pressure relief valve: Iran’s Oil Boom Continues, Powered by Russian-Chinese Support https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Irans-Oil-Boom-Continues-Powered-by-Russian-Chinese-Support.html
French prime minister will suspend a pension reform to avoid government collapse
French Prime Minister Sébastien Lecornu on Tuesday announced he would suspend a much-debated plan to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64, in a move aimed at preventing his fragile minority government from being toppled.
After a week of political turmoil, the newly reappointed Lecornu said in a policy speech at the National Assembly that the law, a flagship initiative of President Emmanuel Macron, would be put on hold until after the next presidential election in 2027. https://apnews.com/article/france-politics-lecornu-macron-confidence-vote-c13b5da9d5e2aaf83cc13a84042815d8?Don’t need food? Climate lunatics in Hamburg pass referendum committing Germany’s leading industrial city to deindustrialise completely in 15 years https://www.eugyppius.com/p/climate-lunatics-in-hamburg-pass
We’ll be fine without electricity, right? Defending Against Strained Grids, Army To Power US Bases With Micro-Nuke Reactors https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/defending-against-strained-grids-army-power-us-bases-micro-nuke-reactors
October 17, 2025 at 8:25 pm #197557John Day
ParticipantNot-warheads: Russia Close to Developing the World’s First Closed Fuel Cycle Reactor Capable of Reusing 95% of Spent Fuel and Where Is World https://www.thedefensenews.com/news-details/Russia-Close-to-Developing-the-Worlds-First-Closed-Fuel-Cycle-Reactor-Capable-of-Reusing-95-of-Spent-Fuel-and-Where-Is-World/
The roads and services we use have to be funded somehow: When Do We Truly Own Anything? The Property Tax Scheme That Keeps Us Paying Forever https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/when-do-we-truly-own-anything-property-tax-scheme-keeps-us-paying-forever
“Outraged” Trump Refuses To Adhere To Global Carbon Tax On Shipping https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/outraged-trump-refuses-adhere-global-carbon-tax-shipping
John Bolton Indicted On 18 Counts Over Mishandling Classified Documents
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/john-bolton-indicted-over-mishandling-classified-documents “Distinguished” US Government Employee With Access To Nuclear Secrets Busted In ‘Robot Porn’ Scheme
A Department of Energy (DOE) employee with access to nuclear secrets has lost his security clearance after uploading a staggering 187,000 pornographic images to the agency’s network…
..The man admitted breaching DOE rules but simply “did not think it was ‘very wrong’ to have adult images on an unclassified computer” and the DOE “was spying on him ‘a little too much’ given that the systems were unclassified.” He also described the DOE software used to investigate the upload as “spyware” before going on to the Spanish Inquisition line.
In mitigation, the man outlined a history of depression, alongside both medical and psychiatric treatment. In 2017 he was diagnosed with “major depressive disorder, moderate, recurrent, in full remission for approximately one year” and “ADHD with problems in focus, attention, follow-through, procrastination, distractibility, and impulsivity.”
According to his appeal, which was helpfully made public thanks to DOE guidelines, the employee insisted he thought his personal drives were “partitioned” from the DOE network, keeping his extensive collection private. Spoiler alert: they weren’t. He attributed the upload to experiments with AI-generated “robot pornography,” clarifying these were images of humans for AI training, not mechanical fantasies, while coping with depression. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/distinguished-us-government-employee-access-nuclear-secrets-busted-robot-porn-schemeOctober 17, 2025 at 8:26 pm #197558John Day
ParticipantMexican and Colombian Cartels Sending Members to Ukraine To Learn To Operate Attack Drones, Changing Drug War Tactics Forever https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/10/mexican-colombian-cartels-sending-members-ukraine-learn-operate/
Meryl Nass MD, Global Preparedness Monitoring Board issues new report this week to undergird the Pandemic Treaty negotiations and pandemic planning initiative.
Fauci and Jeremy Farrar and Gro Harlem Brundtland were 3 of the initial GPM Board members. Just another fake “independent” organization to issue globalist dictats. Now they are back! https://merylnass.substack.com/p/global-preparedness-monitoring-board-287 Pornography too? Peter McCullough MD, Hair-Loss Drug Finasteride Tied to Depression, Anxiety, and Suicide – Global study finds alarming results, calls for safer treatments https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/hair-loss-drug-finasteride-tied-to
October 17, 2025 at 8:27 pm #197559John Day
ParticipantA Midwestern Doctor explains how “brain death” was invented: The Hidden Crisis in Organ Transplantation – What they don’t tell us about “Brain Death”
The concept of “brain death,” introduced in 1968 to enable organ harvesting, has never been proven equivalent to actual death—it merely defines an irreversible coma.
Documented cases exist of “brain dead” patients who were conscious, including some who mouthed “help me” as their organs were nearly harvested.
Global organ shortages have fueled a black market, with an estimated 5–20% of transplants involving illegal procurement and added pressure to lower diagnostic standards for “brain death.”
Recent federal investigations found serious failures in the U.S. organ donation system: 29.3% of reviewed cases showed troubling signs, and 20.8% of patients had neurologic activity incompatible with procurement—yet transplant coordinators still pushed to proceed. https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-hidden-crisis-in-organ-transplantation EPA Readied a Report on One Forever Chemical. Now It’s in Limbo.
For months, agency scientists have been waiting for the Trump administration to release their final report on PFNA. https://undark.org/2025/10/14/epa-toxicity-report-pfna/(some) States Go It Alone On ‘Forever Chemicals’ As EPA Delays Federal Action https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/states-go-it-alone-forever-chemicals-epa-delays-federal-action
October 17, 2025 at 11:12 pm #197560those darned kids
Participantdonald trump is the biggest asshole since joe biden
October 17, 2025 at 11:45 pm #197561Celticbiker
ParticipantJewevil, unconfronted, metastasises and grows. like cancer. 2 years of genocide, nobody does a fucking thing, do you really think this madness is not coming for you?
October 17, 2025 at 11:53 pm #197562D Benton Smith
Participant@DrD_Rich
If Halbfinger was channeling me then he needs a new magic healing crystal guru, and if you THINK he was channeling me then you need a new brain. But we both know you’re just spouting bullshit and don’t believe for a second that that I have anything in common with that Zionist tool Halbfinger. You KNOW that I detest the genocidal psychopaths (American Zionist genocidal psychopaths AND the Israeli Zionist genocidal psychopaths (90 % of their population, who are ATHEISTS and therefore NOT Jewish) ….. but you just won’t quit trying to tar me with that brush.
Why all the projection Doc, guilty conscience?
October 18, 2025 at 12:05 am #197563WES
ParticipantTriple Witching Options Friday:
Da Boyz monkey hammered gold nearly $200 and silver $4 today!
They unmercilly clubbed both metals like a baby seal.
Neither metals even saw a dead cat bounce!October 18, 2025 at 12:48 am #197564Celticbiker
ParticipantDa Boyz can’t stop lack of faith, lack of trust WES. This is what happens when the mountain of lies crumbles. Even retards understand things are very wrong and this cannot and will not maintain. Cat is out of the fuckin bag.
October 18, 2025 at 1:31 am #197565WES
ParticipantCelticbiker:
Sadly, the lost of trust in the City of London, The Square Mile, isn’t coming fast enough to prevent them from starting many more wars in the world.
If the Square Mile feels like they are losing their power, they may elect to take the world down with them.
If their belief is, “A world without the Square Mile, isn’t a world worth living in”, then we are in big trouble.
October 18, 2025 at 10:23 am #197566Fully_caffinated
Participant@johnday
Sterling job of aggregating the news in RIM’s absence
Please email me via address at bottom of ariathea.com (it’ll redirect to a subdomain)
Let’s gettheroboticearth.com
up and running!October 18, 2025 at 11:13 am #197567John Day
ParticipantHi Fully_caffeinated.
I’m having first morning coffee, and went to ariathea.com , but “inquiries” did not take me anywhere.
I am typically reachable through comments at drjohnsblog.substack.com
If you would subscribe with your email, then I would have it and would reply, but I might not know what I have, as most emails don’t really describe their addressees very clearly.
I will be clear that I can’t commit to being RIM or taking on this site or another blog. I am spending a lot of time internet-bottom-feeding and excerpting/curating the bad news, already. I really “should” do less of it, but…October 18, 2025 at 1:21 pm #197569Michael Reid
ParticipantOctober 18, 2025 at 1:34 pm #197570zerosum
ParticipantNo Tomahawks For Ukraine Pokrovsk Will Fall In The Coming Days Military Summary For 2025.10.18
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October 18, 2025 at 1:41 pm #197571D Benton Smith
Participant“They” are known by many names by many different people (who also go by many names ourselves). “They” are called…. just to use the names that first come to mind…. ‘The City’, the Square Mile, the Jews, banksters, and Blob. AKA the Cabal, Illuminatti, Military Industrial complex, Masons and Satanists.
Let’s face it, “they” have too many names. and besides that “they” is not a very specific reference when you’re trying to gauge size and number. Just how many people are “they”???? Is it a dozen? Or a few dozen? Hundreds? Thousands, MILLIONS? How about Billions. What use is it to identify THEM as the root of all evil if “them” means half of the entire population of Earth. You’re just going to have to be a little more specific about how many folks we’re talking about here when we say “they” or “them”. Do we mean all killers, liars and thieves or just some of them? Because if it’s ALL killers, liars and thieves, without exception of any kind whatsoever, then we’re in a heap of trouble.
Because if everyone who ever harmed another person unjustly, or told a lie, or took something that wasn’t fairly theirs, must be condemned and punished for their crimes, then that means every single human being over the age of 12 currently living on this planet. There are no exceptions that I’m aware of, and I have done a lot of looking.
“They” is a coalition of the willing, a sort of hierarchy of low lifes, and every single one of us is GUILTY of having contributed to their organization(s) on many many many occasions. Me, too. Just like thee. Partners in crime.
October 18, 2025 at 2:03 pm #197572John Day
Participant@DBS: Yes, the Core-Characteristics of sociopaths and Psychopaths are the important thing, not the sometimes-linked associated characteristics that are so much easier to see.
“By their works ye shall know them”.
“Them” hide their perfidy when them work. This is not easy at all.
It just ain’t.
;-/October 18, 2025 at 2:09 pm #197573D Benton Smith
ParticipantMoney is an artificial system(s) of convenience that we all like to use to make life easier for ourselves. It’s a lot faster, easier, safer and convenient to hire other people to kill all of the grizzly bears in Iowa (circa 1800 to 1850) than it is to go out and do it yourself. Pretty much everyone involved did so fully willingly and without too much undue coercion.
No one makes you use money. They may coerce you quite a bit, but at the end of the day it is your choice on whether to use money as your primary go-to means of interacting with the world on a day-by-day basis.
Well, that money you’re using is FAKE, and the fakers who fake it (and kill anyone standing in their way) get ALL of their power from it. That’s right. That money is their one and ONLY source of power, and nobody else really needs it EXCEPT them.
Yet you use it (use money) anyway, even though you KNOW that the money is the ONLY thing giving the Liars and killers and thieves the POWER to go on being liars and killers and thieves. We don’t absolutely have to use money to get what we want all day long. We just like the convenience.
We like the convenience so much that we’re willing to experience the criminality of the money owners, to get it.
How’s THEM apples? That’s right. You could end the reign of terror overnight by just giving up all that convenience you’re getting from money.
Me either. I’ve been trying for ages and so far I haven’t come up with a very pragmatically acceptable way to do it. It’s going to happen for sure, one way or the other, and in EITHER case I think we’re going to find the consequences to be pragmatically unacceptable. God save us all (which, joking aside, appears to be the only hope we’ve got.)
October 18, 2025 at 2:36 pm #197574D Benton Smith
ParticipantYou know, I would like The Automatic Earth to go on forever, I truly would, but nothing lasts forever and at this moment (system mostly down since this issue we’re operating in now was published as Debt Rattle October 14, 2025.
That is not good. If no steps in to fix it, we’re done. I hope that’s not the case. We’ll see.
If it is, however, the case that TAE has reached it’s end then I just want to say to all of you, and Ilargi in particular (write large in gold), that it has been an absolutely great ride. I have gained so much from you all. Thank you very much, from the bottom of my heart.
Now, on with business. On the mere possibility that TAE is ending we should all arrange to stay in touch online (and elsewhere, to those who want to) and for that we probably need a web address we can all go to and log in. That’s where TAE sort of originated from in the first place when the wonderful Oil Drum site went inert. Suggestions anyone? If John Day doesn’t want the honors then he better make provisions for dealing with it anyway somehow, because, well, there’s his blog. It exists. If he doesn’t want you there then that’s his prerogative, but to do so would cause serious damage to his reputation as a truly honest man and stand up guy. He has his own free will and the decision is his.
I will base my future decisions (of what to do if TAE goes dark) on the discourse and commentary ongoing here on the Oct 14th Debt Rattle.
October 18, 2025 at 2:47 pm #197575zerosum
Participanthttps://karlof1.substack.com/p/another-year-another-russian-energy
karlof1’s Geopolitical Gymnasium
Another Year, Another Russian Energy Week International Forum
The plenary session featuring President Putin
Karl Sanchez
Oct 16, 2025
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https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/2053699/Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s interview with Kommersant, Moscow, October 15, 2025
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Looking for world news? Try …
https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-54bUkraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update
17th October 2025
Dr. Rob Campbell
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ParticipantChuckle inducing this morning:
(90 % of their (Israels) population, who are ATHEISTS and therefore NOT Jewish) …..
@johnday
Sterling job of aggregating the news in RIM’s absenceI really “should” do less of it, but…
October 18, 2025 at 3:14 pm #197577Noirette
ParticipantIlargi I read your posts regularly but have not been contributing I hope you find some way to keep the site going all the best and hello to the contributors…
October 18, 2025 at 4:55 pm #197578D Benton Smith
ParticipantWhy the chuckle when there’s nothing funny or amusing? Were you not aware that an atheist cannot, by very definition, be a Jew? Jew means believer in the God of Abraham and the scriptural laws as laid out in their Torah and other books. That’s why they’re called the People of the Book. They are a religion based solely and only upon their religious faith that there exists the God they write of and worship. Atheist don’t believe in God and so do not agree with the very notion of “God’s” law or the book He wrote them down in.
So, yeah, a Jew cannot be an atheist, and an atheist cannot be a Jew. Not humorous. Just a fact, like if I said, “This is Saturday morning, October 18, 2025 in Missouri, USA.
October 18, 2025 at 5:25 pm #197579zerosum
Participant“NO KING DEMONSTRATIONS”
MEANS “DON’T TELL ME WHAT TO DO”
October 18, 2025 at 5:28 pm #197580zerosum
ParticipantFULL MEETING: Zelenskiy Meets Trump at WH on Tomahawk Missiles and Russia Threats | AC1G
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