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  • #209306
    John Day
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    Larry Summers going into hiding reminds me of this song by The Who: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0iA_rOcn9Y

    #209308
    John Day
    Participant

    Celia Farber, Turning Point USA Exposed By Auditor As MASSIVELY Corrupt, Money Laundering Operation With Far Reaching Implications: “I Got Up…And Started Reading It And My Mouth Dropped.” – Let’s Hear It For The Auditor Geeks, Finally Giving Us The Real Story Here https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/turning-point-usa-exposed-by-auditor

    Jerusalem Post: Majority of Israelis oppose Palestinian state, even for Saudi normalization, survey finds
    Among Jewish Israelis, opposition is even higher at 79%, up from 76% in the previous JCFA poll. This marks the highest level of Jewish-Israeli opposition in its tracking since the war began.​ https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-874235

    ​We’ll impartially investigate ourselves. Outrage in Israel as Netanyahu says government will oversee Oct. 7 inquiry https://www.arabnews.com/node/2623009/middle-east

    ​ Israel destroys Gaza’s historical palace, with over 20,000 artifacts looted​ – Mamluk-era Qasr al-Basha palace sustained major damage in Israeli attacks since October 2023​
    ​ “The Israeli army has systematically and extensively destroyed Gaza’s archaeological sites as part of a policy aimed at erasing Palestinian identity,” Ismail al-Thawabteh, head of Gaza’s Government Media Office. https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-destroys-gaza-s-historical-palace-with-over-20-000-artifacts-looted/3745846

    ​ Fears of ‘catastrophic consequences’ in Gaza as rain floods tents
    UN-backed agency warns that at least 259,000 families will face winter ‘without adequate protection’ as Israel blocks lifesaving supplies of shelters​ https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/first-rains-winter-threatens-gaza-living-crisis-over-19-million-displaced-palestinians

    #209309
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ Palestinian deaths in Israeli prisons have surged. A guard describes rampant abuse
    Last year the head of Israel’s prison system boasted that he had degraded prison conditions to the legal minimum​ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/palestine-deaths-israel-prisons-gaza-b2866564.html

    Israeli forces kill three Palestinian children in the occupied West Bank​ https://israelpalestinenews.org/israeli-forces-kill-three-palestinian-children-in-the-occupied-west-bank/

    ​ Freed Palestinian child prisoners recount torture in Israeli custody
    Three boys who were seized near aid distribution points say they were electrocuted, beaten and psychologically tortured in detention​ https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/prison-inside-me-freed-palestinian-child-prisoners-recount-torture-israeli-custody

    ​Kit Klarenberg, The Global Zionist Organ Trafficking Conspiracy https://www.kitklarenberg.com/p/the-global-zionist-organ-trafficking

    WHO: 900 patients in Gaza died while waiting for medical evacuations​ https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/who-900-patients-gaza-died-while-waiting-medical-evacuations

    #209310
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ UN Security Council approves Trump’s Gaza ‘peace plan,’ green-lighting U.S.-Israeli control of Gaza’s future
    The UN Security Council voted in favor of Trump’s “peace plan” for Gaza, effectively giving the U.S. and Israel the mandate to push forward their vision for Gaza’s future – a future that, notably, features no consideration for what Palestinians want.
    ​ Israel’s defense minister Yizrael Katz said that Israel will demilitarize Gaza on the Israeli-controlled side, using for the first time by an Israeli official the term “new Gaza,” clearly pushing towards the division of Gaza. The resolution, aside from legitimizing the key elements of Trump’s plan – namely the peace board, and the deployment of international forces with the mandate of disarming Hamas and other Palestinian factions – remains vague on critical issues like reconstruction, leaving a gap to be filled by the US-Israeli vision of dividing Gaza.​ https://mondoweiss.net/2025/11/un-security-council-approves-trumps-gazapeace-plan-green-lighting-u-s-israeli-control-of-gazas-future/

    ​ Trump considers skipping disarmament phase of Gaza plan amid deadlock: Report
    Washington has been unable to convince countries involved in the ‘stabilization force’ plan to confront Hamas and other factions militarily​ https://thecradle.co/articles-id/34315

    ​ US army plans to limit Gaza rebuild to Israeli-controlled ‘green zone’, leave rest in ruins
    A US army plan envisions dividing Gaza into two halves, one of which will be developed while under Israeli control, while the other remains in ruins.​ https://www.newarab.com/news/us-army-plans-limit-gaza-rebuild-israeli-controlled-area

    ​ US signs deal for Israeli drones ‘tested in Gaza’
    Israeli military drone company XTEND has signed a multi-million-dollar deal with the US Department of Defense for attack drones tested in Gaza.​ https://www.newarab.com/news/us-signs-deal-israeli-drones-tested-gaza

    ​Haaretz: Israel’s Violent Jewish Settlers Are Neither Marginal and nor a Handful https://archive.ph/Ushoq#selection-293.11-297.71

    #209311
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ ‘We May Have Reached the Point Where Settlers Try to Kill Jews’
    Oded Yedaya was hit by a large stone thrown by a settler in the West Bank. The artist and political activist – who once served alongside Benjamin Netanyahu in an elite military unit – explains what that could mean for solidarity activism​. https://archive.ph/iuuxW#selection-851.0-851.237

    Israeli Forces Dismantle West Bank Settler Outpost​ https://english.aawsat.com/arab-world/5209855-israeli-forces-dismantle-west-bank-settler-outpost

    ​ As Israel Keeps Killing Palestinians, Tlaib Leads Bill Recognizing War on Gaza as Genocide
    “After over two years of slaughter, forced starvation, and mass atrocities in Gaza, the global consensus is clear: The Israeli government has committed genocide against the Palestinian people in Gaza.”​ https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2025/11/16/as-israel-keeps-killing-palestinians-tlaib-leads-bill-recognizing-war-on-gaza-as-genocide/

    ​ Israeli troops attack UN forces in southern Lebanon​ – The military said the peacekeepers were misidentified due to poor weather conditions.
    ​ The United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon said the Israeli forces had fired from a Merkava tank positioned inside Lebanese territory towards the peacekeepers, who were on foot. Heavy machine gun fire landed five metres from the peacekeepers, who were forced to seek shelter, it said.
    ​ The Israeli tank withdrew after peacekeepers contacted the Israeli military through official channels, UNIFIL said.​ https://thearabweekly.com/tensions-rise-israeli-troops-attack-un-forces-southern-lebanon

    ​ South African activists allege Israel used shadowy NGO to ‘traffic’ Palestinians from Gaza
    Flight carrying 153 Palestinians to South Africa triggers accusations that Israel, via Al-Majd Europe, engineered scheme to remove Palestinians from Gaza
    ​ Activists found that not only had the South African government been unaware of their arrival, but the evacuees themselves were not in possession of any documentation or paperwork to assist with their processing in the country.
    ​ The activists said that what was even more shocking was that several Palestinians said they had embarked on the trip without fully knowing where they were going.​ https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/south-africa-activists-allege-israel-used-group-transfer-palestinians-from-gaza

    #209312
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ What’s the shadowy organisation taking Gaza Palestinians to South Africa?
    Details have emerged about the controversial scheme to take Palestinians out of Gaza, run by Al-Majd Europe.
    ​ The government allowed them to leave the plane after the charity organisation Gift of the Givers offered to accommodate them.
    Officials said 23 Palestinians flew to other countries, without adding any more details.
    ​ “These are people from Gaza who somehow mysteriously were put on a plane that passed by Nairobi and came here,” South African President Cyril Ramaphosa said Friday.​ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/16/whats-the-shadowy-organisation-taking-gaza-palestinians-to-south-africa

    ​ Sudan’s army captures two areas in North Kordofan as RSF burns more bodies
    RSF is burning and burying bodies near a university, mosque, camp for the displaced people, and hospital in el-Fasher, Yale University researchers say.​ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/15/sudans-army-captures-two-areas-in-north-kordofan-as-rsf-burns-more-bodies

    Threats Of Sanctions, Economic Warfare, As Japan-China Relations Sink To Decades Low​ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/threats-sanctions-economic-warfare-japan-china-relations-sink-decades-low

    Four Chinese Coast Guard Ships Enter Japan-Administered Waters Amid Sharp Diplomatic Fallout​ https://www.thedefensenews.com/news-details/Four-Chinese-Coast-Guard-Ships-Enter-Japan-Administered-Waters-Amid-Sharp-Diplomatic-Fallout/

    ​ (Hype) Japan’s railgun locked and loaded to kill China’s hypersonics
    Railgun breakthrough promises a cheap strike option that could upend missile dominance and revive naval gunnery​ https://asiatimes.com/2025/11/japans-railgun-locked-and-loaded-to-kill-chinas-hypersonics/

    #209313
    John Day
    Participant

    Tech Sinica – China’s Relentless Innovation Drive​, Pepe Escobar​ https://www.unz.com/pescobar/tech-sinica-chinas-relentless-innovation-drive/

    Dutch Retreat: Beijing Wins Control Fight Over Nexperia After Chip Shipments Squeezed​ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dutch-retreat-beijing-wins-control-fight-over-nexperia-after-chip-shipments-squeezed

    Beijing Jumps Back Into US Soybean Market, Snaps Up 20 Cargo Loads After Abrupt Pause​ https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/beijing-jumps-back-us-soybean-market-snaps-20-cargo-loads-after-abrupt-pause

    ​ Is the US Trying to Set in Motion a Colour Revolution in Mexico?
    For the moment there is no smoking gun. But the US is clearly, wilfully destabilising the country. And this effort predates Trump 2.0.​ https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/11/is-the-us-trying-to-organise-a-colour-revolution-in-mexico.html

    Britain’s Speech Gulag Exposed: 10,000 Arrested Last Year For Social Media Posts​ https://www.zerohedge.com/political/britains-speech-gulag-exposed-10000-arrested-last-year-social-media-posts

    #209314
    Michael Reid
    Participant


    The world’s financial backbone is cracking, Japan pulling its capital and triggering the most dangerous reversal in modern markets. You have 30days!

    https://citizenwatchreport.com/the-worlds-financial-backbone-is-cracking-japan-pulling-its-capital-and-triggering-the-most-dangerous-reversal-in-modern-markets/

    #209315
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ ‘Europe Is Persecuting Christians’
    Free speech is under serious attack all across Europe. To criticise the sacred cows of the progressive worldview – from transgenderism to immigration and even Islam – is to invite a knock on the door from the thought police.​ https://www.zerohedge.com/political/europe-persecuting-christians

    ​The first minute has the basic story: We Hacked Flock Safety Cameras in under 30 Seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB0gr7Fh6lY

    ​ NEW STUDY: Infant Vaccine Intensity Strongly Predicts Autism Rates Worldwide
    Across countries on three continents, a 1% increase in vaccine types before age one corresponded to a 0.47% increase in autism prevalence.​ https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/new-study-infant-vaccine-intensity

    ​ Peter McCullough MD.considers common causation. Coincident Rises in Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder and Autism Over Decades
    Separate and now overlapping childhood disorders rising rapidly with a correlation of 0.96​ https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/coincident-rises-in-attention-deficit

    ​ “How do you induce an allergy in a rat?”:
    “[You take the] same Aluminum adjuvant used in the Hepatitis B vaccine” and “inject it into that rat with a protein … if it’s a peanut protein, that rat will have a lifetime allergy to peanuts”. RFK Jr:
    ​ “Aluminum provokes an allergic response and that’s why it’s valuable [and] if you put the aluminum in with the viral antigen [you] mount an allergic response to that viral antigen [but] that aluminum also creates allergic responses to anything in the ambient environment”. “If you have a peanut oil excipient in that vaccine, and you put aluminum in it, now you could have a lifetime allergy to peanuts”.
    ​ According to one study that looked at Aluminum and Allergies, comparing vaccinated with unvaccinated children, they found “vaccinated children [are] 30 x more likely to have allergic rhinitis”. As HHS Sec. Robert F Kennedy said recently: “We need to look at the Aluminum in the vaccines [so] we’re doing that today with the NIH [and that] we give that Hepatitis B vaccine during the first 24 hours of life”.​ https://x.com/Humanspective/status/1990556748944666858

    #209316
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ It’s not ​really “anomalous” if you know why it’s there. Anomalous Amyloid Microclots Found in 100% of the COVID-19 Vaccinated
    In a cohort that was 94% vaccinated, every participant had amyloid microclots —the same pathology behind the large white fibrous clots now being pulled from corpses worldwide.​ https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/breaking-study-anomalous-amyloid

    ​ Peter McCullough MD, Case-Counting Window Bias Exposed
    COVID-19 unvaccinated appear to have higher mortality from all causes because vaccinated counted as “unvaccinated’ for two weeks after [2nd] shot​ https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/case-counting-window-bias-exposed

    #209317
    Michael Reid
    Participant
    #209318
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @citizenX

    Please don’t go away. We need the objective critique, even if it is frequently annoying. How can I tell if I’m right unless someone tells me all of the ways that they can think of that I’m wrong, so that I can review and revise (sometimes) my views?

    #209321
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Here’s a good laugh.

      Trump Stuns Press In Defending MbS Over Khashoggi Murder, As Saudis Float $1 Trillion Investment“ (Durden):

      Indeed, MbS came bearing gifts. He committed the kingdom to increasing his planned investment into the U.S. economy to nearly $1 trillion. After this, the NY Times commented, “The new number the prince floated today, $1 trillion, is roughly the size of Saudi Arabia’s entire annual economic output.”

    One Trillion Large….what’s wrong with you you anti American auntie Capitalist you

    It the laughable gets better….?Durie?

       If memory serves, step one is to solve for the appropriate lag

    Yeah Rob chewed over that fat in unusually constipated style……”if memory serves”

    If memory serves where the author positions himself, you know, in the foreword.

    Forward! MARCH!!

      By calling the applications ‘industrial,’ the sense is given that the purpose of Generative AI is to improve industrial efficiency. But industry has been adding algorithms to industrial processes for the last century. I saw textile looms that could produce algorithmic patterns in woven materials in the early – mid-1970s. But this wasn’t Generative AI. As the article suggests, the main problem with Generative AI is that the training sets are unrepresentative of the processes that industries are applying it to. Recall that this is also a function of the probability-based approach that AI uses.

      Otherwise, AI’s autocorrelation function could seemingly be used to correct the bias between training sets and AI output. I used to build ‘error correction’ models all of the time. If memory serves, step one is to solve for the appropriate lag. Step two is to solve for the average deviation from a local mean. Step three is to program the solution with a convergence rate. In plain language, the difference between the predicted and actual outcomes of Generative AI are used to reduce the difference going forward.

      However, the ‘problem’ that doing so would create would be that the voices of power would no longer be over-represented in AI output. Mathematically speaking, this would require reducing the weight of the New York Times to less than that of The Grayzone because Times stories are republished so frequently. In fact, in addition to being favored by AI in probabilistic terms, lists of ‘authoritative’ sources are weighted heavily by Generative AI developers. In other words, Generative AI is set up to produce rigged results.

      As I understand it from the MIT article, it is this ‘rigged’ nature of Generative AI that is causing the problems with industrial applications in the West. What industries need is accurate information from unbiased datasets. Input bias reduces the use-value of AI. And this information must exhibit statistical characteristics that are conducive to methods of AI. Unless US-based AI companies are producing custom training sets for different types of applications, AI will be unlikely to work as advertised.

    He “saw textile looms” as he loosens contact with reality.
    Hahahahahahaha

    I see dead people and Dick Cheney. Well, DeadEye Dick’s dead too recently.

    What do you see D? Dbs? Miker?

    This general theme, you know, BatShit Craziness (look that up in the next DSM iteration) coupled with local expression of universal manifestation from openly consorting with and regularly citing established Pedophiles like W. Scott Ritter parallels the Nobel Laureate achievement of One D. Carleton Gadjusek Gajdusek who don’t you think let his subject matter get a little too close his head.
    Aspnaz couldn’t follow it to save her life.

    Carlton and Ritter, oops Carleton neè Daniel, flock together and maintain stature, loom large in Minds
    Here’s a public defense at Gajdusek, good gawd y’all need to have your head’s examined over Ritter’s malignant stupidity.

      “Despite Gajdusek openly admitting to molesting boys and his approval of incest, Carleton still received support from peers advocating for clemency who dekt his crimes were lessened by his scientific contributions.”

    Is the aforementioned the internal logic locally when it comes to citing The Ritter?

    #209323
    those darned kids
    Participant

    from the book of miker:


    if you want real results, a manyfisto is the better choice

    #209336
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @thosedarnedkids

    I couldn’t help but notice that you used the word or name “miker”, and that led me to speculate that maybe you know or suspect who this “miker” guy is that @DrD_Rich keeps referring to. Do you? If so, please tell me. I’m dying to know and DrDRich won’t answer up when I’ve asked him.

    If anyone else knows, feel free to chime in. WHO IS MIKER?

    #209357
    Michael Reid
    Participant
    #209359
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Canada’s Descent Into Oblivion?
    Can Canada Transcend the Choke Hold of the Trudeau/Carney Succession?

    https://anthonyjhall.substack.com/p/canadas-descent-into-oblivion

    #209374
    zerosum
    Participant

    US-based AI companies are producing custom training sets for different types of applications

    direct marketing advertising to produce/increase sales

    #209380
    Michael Reid
    Participant


    Canada, the UK, and Australia are collapsing in the exact same way—and it’s no coincidence. From unaffordable housing and vanishing middle classes to rising foreign ownership and digital control systems, the decline is being carefully managed. In this video, we reveal the blueprint behind this orchestrated fall and how it mirrors the downfall of empires past. Watch now before the truth disappears—because this isn’t just failure. It’s a plan. And you’re living in it.

    #209389
    zerosum
    Participant

    The Ship Has Sunk
    The First Five Have Already Fled
    Massive Strike
    Military Summary 19.11.2025

    #209407
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #209409
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #209410
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #209411
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #209412
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #209423

    I will, J Day.

    #209432
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #209435
    zerosum
    Participant

    Another presentation.
    Telegram SITREP Part 1 – 2025-11-20
    Nov 19, 2025

    https://askeptic.substack.com/p/telegram-sitrep-part-1-2025-11-20

    #209466
    Michael Reid
    Participant
    #209468
    John Day
    Participant

    Miss Universe judge resigns three days before competition after claiming ‘secret committee’ pre-picked finalists
    The Miss Universe pageant will be taking place Friday in Bangkok, Thailand
    https://www.the-independent.com/life-style/miss-universe-thailand-judge-omar-harfouch-resigns-b2867908.html

    #209471
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Objectivism is a philosophical system named and developed by Russian-American writer and philosopher Ayn Rand. She described it as “the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute”.[1]

    #209473
    those darned kids
    Participant

    #209737
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “ Ukraine Is Buying Fighter Jets With Money It Does Not Have?”

    Yes, but the joke’s on them: they don’t exist to be delivered. It’s fraud all the way down!

    “Trump Stuns Press In Defending MbS Over Khashoggi Murder”

    Raul was much on this one. He may know, but he needs to tell the public: Khashoggi was Muslim Brotherhood Western Agent working for MBS’s brother trying to have MBS killed. So yes, he was a little mad, about his brother AND Khashoggi. In fact, it appears they ALSO shot up all of Vegas, not just the 300, but shootouts and guns all over town, trying to kill him. But nobody cares if Americans die. But you harm ONE lifelong MI6 agent… Some pigs are more equal than others.

    …So it is rumored. Again, like Venezuelan boats, IF that is it, then say so. Otherwise, I have to take it at face value and believe the press, don’t I?

    “Turning Point USA Exposed By Auditor As MASSIVELY Corrupt, Money Laundering Operation With Far Reaching Implications:”

    Yes, and both Kirk and Kirk from birth as trained plants? As coming from their families as well? And that’s how it’s done worldwide now? Think of the implications: there are already ubermensch, the Royals of Krypton, and the hoi-palloi in the sewers giving birth as naturals. There are peasants and lords. This is a Sci-fi of people raised from birth, test-tubed, right down the breaking and manufacturing their very psychology. Every one is Jason Borne of finance and rockets. Creating not just their passport, but their very identity. Crying — or not crying – on demand. Killing or being killed as easily as bots in SimCity. It’s the dream, the End State.

    Okay, and for WHO? Well Israel will be involved, we can be sure. And it can’t happen without the CIA. And it’s domestic, so it’s top-line FBI protected. With the IRS and DoJ. Plus Citi, JPM, etc. I mean, am I saying anything not completely obvious here?

    Now WHY are all the casinos empty in Vegas? It is said. AND nothing happens because of it either? WTF? You should hear screaming, bailouts, housing, crashes. Nothing. That’s because casinos exist to launder money. That’s WHY they re-legalized casinos, ever more and more, then in every state, since the 90s. It mirrors the billions – now trillions – in illegal money flows. So says the UN in their official reports around 2010, right? So the illegal trafficking is being shut off, right? So then the ONLY purpose for those casinos is gone. There’s not that many ACTUAL gamblers in the world. So we shut the doors, figure what to do next. But nobody’s surprised and the public flying in to gamble was never the actual business model. It’s like not delivering the cheese to the Pizza front: the delivery boys will still go out, pizza is not what was being delivered.

    Luongo is back, he was re-setting in TN. The latest is so complicated, I can only follow it bc of years of idiotic financial articles (whyyyy did I do that?) and having heard 100 of his all leading up to this point. Not 101 stuff. And getting increasingly unprovable, although, as I say, the general noise out there is SPECIFICALLY counter-factual. If they say “Trump got up” I just assume he went to bed. And yet still no one notices and it’s not even AI yet.

    I am not sure where to go to. I would go take a nice walk to a cabin, but they’ve paved the 100 surrounding miles with solar farms and put a Flock camera outside it. So. Not. Sure.
    SureMan

    #209762
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #209767
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Hero-characters in “Atlas shrugged” are no different than any comic book characters that some of us remember from our favorite readings in our youth days. Bit polished, though, into “literature” they are, instead of being in a cheap paperback, “placed on higher pedestal” of some Lichtenstein’s painting. but still cartoon characters nevertheless.

    I like the idea that miker is who ever each of us think that he is.

    #209774
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    At minute 9:10 Alex pointedly “reaffirms” his belief that the Trump Administration is fully on-board with the Russians to prevent WW3.

    I disagree.

    I also wonder where in the living Hell he ever got that idea into his head at all. Somebody is feeding Alex bullshit and telling him that it’s whipped cream, and Alex is just lapping it up.

    What gives? I mean, WHA !!!

    He’s saying that the FANTASTICALLY treacherous Trump administration (does there even EXIST a TYPE of crime that they have not permitted, committed, auctioned off, and covered up?)

    I’m scratching my head and thinking that this just shouldn’t be. Suggestions, anyone?

    @DrD correct me on this if I’m reading the tea leaves wrong and have just flipped right off of my rocker. It seems to me that it is being proposed by serious people that Trump and the Russians are collaborating towards a shared common goal of peace and sovereignty, at the same time that the United States is KILLING Russians on the muddy fields of Ukrainne, and sending them back in body bags to their grieving families.

    Anyone who believes THAT level of bullshit is too dumb to last long.

    #209775
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    There is no reason for a winning participant in a contest to voluntarily stop winning before they have won. This especially true of persons who set great store on winning at all costs (there are a few, I assure you).

    Any collaboration between Russia and the Trump Administration is the negotiation of a surrender agreement. Russia informs the United States of what it intends to take, and the United States stands back and lets them take it.

    #209777
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    To state that more directly. The United States either stands back and lets Russia peacefully take what it wants, or the United States can oppose Russia and simply be swept aside by overwhelming force. Their call.

    #209778
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    That’s what war IS.

    #209779
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Russia has informed the United States (and the world) of what it intends to “take” (just read the objectives of the often quoted OBJECTIVES of the Special Military Operation.

    Well, just LOOK at them! The Russianbs are simply carrying out their stated intentions of achieving the objectives of the Special Military Operation.

    Negotiations of the West’s SURRENDER are ongoing.

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