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  • #210660
    John Day
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    French General: We Must Be Ready To ‘Lose Our Children’ In War With Russia
    “Russia is convinced that the Europeans are weak. However, we are strong, fundamentally stronger than Russia,” Chief of the French Defense Staff General Fabien Mandon said… ..”What we are lacking, and that is where you have a major role, is the strength of soul to accept pain to protect what we are.”
    He added, “If our country is weak because it is not ready to accept losing its children — because it’s better to say things clearly — [and] to suffer economically because the priority will be the defense sector, then we are at risk.”​ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/french-general-we-must-be-ready-lose-our-children-war-russia

    ​Dude looks unmarried and possibly gay, but Google claims “no-information”: Outcry at army chief’s warning France must prepare to ‘lose children’ in war https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce91zvnrz0lo

    ​ Bill to block UNRWA access to water, electricity passes Israeli Knesset’s first reading​ – The bill passed in Israel’s Knesset with 28 votes in favour and 8 votes against.​ https://www.trtworld.com/article/aa75aa61ff21

    Caitlin Johnstone notices: Israel Moved Gaza’s Yellow Line And Then Shelled Palestinians For Being On The Wrong Side https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/israel-moved-gazas-yellow-line-and

    Israel Steps Up Killings to Tighten Security Control in Gaza​ https://english.aawsat.com/arab-world/5211040-israel-steps-killings-tighten-security-control-gaza

    #210661
    John Day
    Participant

    Death Toll Reaches 33 in Some of the Deadliest Israeli Strikes in Gaza Since Ceasefire Began​ https://english.aawsat.com/arab-world/5210790-death-toll-reaches-33-some-deadliest-israeli-strikes-gaza-ceasefire-began

    Nearly 400 Violations and Rising: Israeli Bombardments Continue in Gaza​ https://www.palestinechronicle.com/nearly-400-violations-and-rising-israeli-bombardments-continue-in-gaza/

    Israel has destroyed more than 1,500 buildings in Gaza since ceasefire​ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mxylxw48yo

    ​ ‘THE SHAME OF OUR TIMES’: Israel appears to be implementing the disease phase of genocide in Gaza
    Israel appears to be implementing Eiland’s idea of using disease as instrument of war​ https://trendsinthenews.substack.com/p/the-shame-of-our-times-israel-appears

    ​ Israel Raids Dozens of Homes in West Bank Town, Hundreds Detained
    The Israeli army reportedly turned the municipal stadium into a makeshift holding and interrogation site.​ https://www.palestinechronicle.com/israel-raids-dozens-of-homes-in-west-bank-town-hundreds-detained/

    #210662
    John Day
    Participant

    Tens of Thousands of West Bank Palestinians Forcibly Displaced in Early 2025 were Denied Return
    ​ The Israeli government’s forced displacement of the populations of three West Bank refugee camps in January and February 2025 amounts to war crimes and crimes against humanity.
    ​ The Geneva Conventions prohibit the displacement of civilians from occupied territory except temporarily for imperative military reasons or the population’s security. Displaced civilians are entitled to protection, accommodation, and return as soon as hostilities in the vicinity cease.​ https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-emptying-refugee-camps-2/

    ​ Israeli army kills 5 Palestinians in southern Gaza’s Rafah city
    Military claims its forces from Nahal Brigade combat team detected 5 armed men emerging from underground infrastructure in eastern Rafah
    ​ For days, Israeli media outlets have said that around 200 Hamas fighters are trapped in a tunnel in Rafah and that Tel Aviv has so far not responded to demands from the Palestinian group and mediators to allow them safe passage to areas under the movement’s control inside the Strip.​ https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-army-kills-5-palestinians-in-southern-gaza-s-rafah-city/3750107

    ‘More Horrific Than Abu Ghraib and Guantánamo’: The Unsalvageable Depravity of Israel’s Prisons for Palestinians​ https://original.antiwar.com/worthington/2025/11/19/more-horrific-than-abu-ghraib-and-guantnamo-the-unsalvageable-depravity-of-israels-prisons-for-palestinians/

    Flashback: International campaign is criminalizing criticism of Israel as ‘antisemitism’​ https://israelpalestinenews.org/flashback-international-campaign-is-criminalizing-criticism-of-israel-as-antisemitism/

    Around 600 Israeli Soldiers Submit Requests for Early Retirement – Report​ https://www.palestinechronicle.com/around-600-israeli-soldiers-submit-requests-for-early-retirement-report/

    #210663
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ Netanyahu Says Rubio Assured Him Saudi Arabia Will Not Receive F-35s On Par With Israel​
    Netanyahu said that Rubio told him the US was “committed to maintaining Israel’s qualitative edge in all areas, including Israel’s advantage regarding the supply of F-35 aircraft.”​ Netanyahu’s comment emphasizes Rubio as an apparent advocate for maintaining Israel’s military superiority over that of other US allies in the region…
    ​..Trump pledged that Saudi Arabia and Israel would be treated as equal partners when it comes to the F-35. He appeared to reference Israeli lobbying to sell Saudi Arabia an inferior product to Israel’s.
    ​ “You are asking me, is it the same? I think it’s going to be pretty similar,” Trump said in an Oval Office meeting with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman on Monday. “I know they [Israel] would like you to get planes of reduced caliber. I don’t think that makes you too happy… I think they [Saudi Arabia and Israel] are both at a level where they should get top of the line.”​ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/netanyahu-says-rubio-assured-him-saudi-arabia-will-not-receive-f-35s-par-israel

    ​ Israel Receives 1,000th Aircraft Carrying US Military Supplies Since October 7, 2023
    The Israeli Ministry of Defense also announced that it signed a ‘multi-billion dollar’ contract for new Iron Dome systems in a deal funded by US aid​ https://news.antiwar.com/2025/11/20/israel-receives-1000th-aircraft-carrying-us-military-supplies-since-october-7-2023/

    The israelis bombed the shelter where Palestinian children Maria and her brother Salem Kashko slept in Gaza yesterday, killing them both​ https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1992128785408577646​

    Microsoft supplied AI system behind Israel’s ‘kill lists’ in Gaza​ https://en.yenisafak.com/world/microsoft-supplied-ai-system-behind-israels-kill-lists-in-gaza-3710851

    ​Big money likes to stay discreet: Swiss Connections: Epstein Navigated Rothschild Banks to Fund Israeli Cyberweapons Empire https://nationalfile.com/swiss-connections-epstein-navigated-rothschild-banks-to-fund-israeli-cyberweapons-empire/

    #210664
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ How California Spent Natural Disaster Funds to Quell Student Protests for Palestine​
    California’s Law Enforcement Mutual Aid fund has been used to fight fires, floods, earthquakes — and Gaza demonstrations.​ https://theintercept.com/2025/11/19/cal-poly-humboldt-university-palestine-wildfire-funds/?

    US Will Likely Reach New Nuclear Deal With Iran, Trump Says​ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-will-likely-reach-new-nuclear-deal-iran-trump-says

    Israel Says It Assassinated A Founding Member Of Hezbollah In Fresh Beirut Strike​ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-says-it-assassinated-founding-member-hezbollah-fresh-beirut-strike

    ​ Poll: Just 21% of Americans Support Using the Military To Oust Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro
    The Reuters/Ipsos poll also found that only 29% of Americans support the military conducting extra-judicial executions of suspected drug traffickers​ https://news.antiwar.com/2025/11/19/poll-just-21-of-americans-support-using-the-military-to-oust-venezuelan-president-nicolas-maduro/

    Simplicius, Trump Begins New Phase of Venezuela Escalations…but Is It Just a Ruse?
    Trump’s administration has quietly tightened the noose around Venezuela.
    ​ As standard to the neocon Uniparty, this comes only a week or two after DNI Tulsi Gabbard somewhat surreally boasted that this administration heralds the end of “regime change” operations​ … How absurd can the mounting hypocrisies of the terminally-mad empire get before they runneth over?
    ​ Bloomberg reports that ‘Russian tankers’ have been forced to ‘idle’ near Venezuelan waters by American warships.​.. Other OSINT operators have taken it further, and believe a full naval blockade of Venezuela’s economic corridor is in effect​. “No one is reporting this, but the AIS data overwhelmingly shows tankers of Chinese or Russian origin are stopped or are not transiting in and out of Venezuelan waters​.” …
    ..This entire campaign is strongly coordinated around the ‘thematic’ messaging of Maduro’s clearly specious ties to what appears to be an entirely fictitious “drug cartel”. Several journalists have now expressed that the ‘Cartel de los Soles’, comically claimed by Rubio to be led by Maduro himself, in fact does not even exist.​ https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/trump-begins-new-phase-of-venezuela

    #210665
    John Day
    Participant

    ​I didn’t know they made them: Japan exports Patriot missiles to U.S., 1st under eased restrictions https://english.kyodonews.net/articles/-/65236

    ​ U.S. Senate passes bill seeking to remove limits on Taiwan engagement
    After the United States ended diplomatic relations with the Republic of China (Taiwan) in 1979, the U.S. Department of State set red lines governing contact between American and Taiwanese officials, and the act’s central purpose is to undo those restrictions.​ https://focustaiwan.tw/politics/202511190028?

    ​Trump needs the 40% of voters they share: ‘I’ll be cheering for him’: Takeaways from Trump and Mamdani’s surprisingly cordial meeting https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgqd42gl0qo

    “These boots are made for walkin'”… Marjorie Taylor Greene torches Mike Johnson, House GOP, in resignation announcement
    The conservative firebrand, recently disavowed by President Donald Trump, slammed Republicans for their handling of the government shutdown and said she would rather step aside than face a primary challenge ordered by the president.​ https://courthousenews.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-torches-mike-johnson-house-gop-in-resignation-announcement/

    ​ Monitoring us all. with all those roadside cameras: Border Patrol is monitoring US drivers and detaining those with ‘suspicious’ patterns
    The U.S. Border Patrol is monitoring millions of American drivers nationwide in a secretive program to identify and detain people whose travel patterns it deems suspicious​ https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/border-patrol-monitoring-us-drivers-detaining-suspicious-travel-127699704?

    #210666
    John Day
    Participant

    ICE Says Critical Evidence In Abuse Case Was Lost In ‘System Crash’ a Day After It Was Sued​ https://www.404media.co/ice-says-critical-evidence-in-broadview-abuse-case-was-lost-in-system-crash-a-day-after-it-was-sued/

    Comer Threatens Contempt Proceedings Against Clintons If They Continue To Ignore Epstein Subpoenas​ https://www.zerohedge.com/political/comer-threatens-contempt-proceedings-against-clintons-if-they-continue-ignore-epstein

    ​In the UK, home of English Common Law: Ministry of Justice set to take away the right to a trial by jury https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2025/11/20/right-to-trial/

    Meryl Nass MD, GOP: use MAHA or Lose It – And that means you, too, Mr. President https://merylnass.substack.com/p/gop-use-maha-or-lose-it

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Reveals that BlackRock Has Total Control of the Meat and Pharmaceutical Industries​ https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/robert-f-kennedy-jr-reveals-that

    #210667
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ Study Finds Nattokinase Dissolves 84% of Amyloid Microclots Within 2 Hours In Vitro
    A natural enzyme potently degrades the same amyloid microclots recently found in 100% of COVID-19 vaccinated individuals tested.​ https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/study-finds-nattokinase-dissolves

    ​ From April 2023: ​Effective management of atherosclerosis progress and hyperlipidemia with nattokinase: A clinical study with 1,062 participants
    ​ ​Nattokinase (NK), known as a potent fibrinolytic and antithrombotic agent, has been shown to have antiatherosclerotic and lipid-lowering effects. However, data on human clinical studies are limited. In this clinical study involving 1,062 participants, our objective was to examine the efficacy of NK in atherosclerosis and hyperlipidemia and safety at the dose of 10,800 FU/day after 12 months of oral administration. Various factors, including lower doses that influence NK pharmacological actions, were also investigated.
    ​ ​We found that NK at a dose of 10,800 FU/day effectively managed the progression of atherosclerosis and hyperlipidemia with a significant improvement in the lipid profile. A significant reduction in the thickness of the carotid artery intima-media and the size of the carotid plaque was observed. The improvement rates ranged from 66.5 to 95.4%. NK was found to be ineffective in lowering lipids and suppressing atherosclerosis progression at a dose of 3,600 FU/day. The lipid-lowering effect of NK was more prominent in subjects who smoked, drank alcohol, and subjects with higher BMI. Regular exercise further improved the effects of NK. Co-administration of vitamin K2 and aspirin with NK produced a synergetic effect. No noticeable adverse effects associated with the use of NK were recorded.
    ​ ​In conclusion, our data demonstrate that atherosclerosis progression and hyperlipidemia can be effectively managed with NK at a dose of 10,800 FU/day. The lower dose of 3,600 FU per day is ineffective. The dose of 10,800 FU/day is safe and well tolerated. ​ ​Some lifestyle factors and the coadministration of vitamin K2 and aspirin lead to improved outcomes in the use of NK.
    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcvm.2022.964977/full

    ​ Physicist Anastassia Makarieva, co-originator of the Biotic Pump Model: Ecosystem Collapse and Extreme Weather Events — in That Order
    A Link Persistently Missing from the Climate Change Narrative​ https://bioticregulation.substack.com/p/ecosystem-collapse-and-extreme-weather

    #210668
    zerosum
    Participant

    NATO’s Article 5, which stipulates that an ​attack against one member of the alliance is considered an attack against all of them.

    Fiction ……
    Ukraine attacks Poland.
    France and Uk respond by sending troops into Ukraine.

    #210732
    Topcat
    Participant

    #210734
    Topcat
    Participant

    Russian media reveals that Estonia having laundered tens of billions of stolen USSA dollars from the Ukro=mafia through Estonian banks decided to treat itself to new army helmets.

    The Mouse That Roared

    Well, the Devil Chihuahua…

    .

    #210738
    Topcat
    Participant

    India announces state visit by Putin in December

    India is greatly increasing it’s political, cultural, financial and military ties with Russia.

    After Trumptard insulted India, it’s economy and culture with his big mouth, Modi has responded by upping his game with Putin.

    Drawing India and Russia much closer than ever, we get another 7-D checkers move by The Donald.

    Nice play Shakespeare!

    Russia’s S-400s kicked Paki ass recently for India, something the USSA can’t do with it’s asswipe weapon systems spawned from the corrupt loins of it’s MIC Maggot Complex.

    The USSA offered Modi F-35 Lardbuckets and he wisely chose Russian’s SU-57, a true 5th gen fighter as opposed to the joke Lardbucket

    The Su-57 is significantly cheaper, with an estimated unit cost between $35 million and $40 million, while the F-35 costs between $80 million and $115 million per unit

    Another remarkable win for BRICS, another spectacular lackluster lost for Trumptard.

    Meanwhile even China is kicking USSA MIC Maggot ass…

    #210743
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “’I Refuse To Be A Battered Wife’ – Marjorie Taylor Green Abandoning House Seat

    She’s a Congressman who doesn’t want to take s—t. Uhh, that’s the job description. Sorry. That’s why only maniacs want it.

    “Lawmakers Want To Block US Purchases Of Chinese Chipmaking Equipment

    They’re just so CUTE! This is so dumb, and I can’t believe China doesn’t already have this, I have to wonder what’s really going on.

    “Trump Ends TPS For Somalis In Minnesota After Explosive Report Reveals Welfare Fraud Network Funding Overseas Terror “Minnesota, under Governor Waltz, is a hub of fraudulent money laundering activity.”

    CIA money laundering. They’re trying to get your eye of this with hot sex. This is the real game. And it wasn’t ended in 1999, but got bigger all over, like 40% of SNAP in 2 years? The K-Pop Mafia is filling their money-losses in Afghan heroin as fast as they’re shut off. Usually with US Tax money, which is juicy and unprotected. I mean, you don’t ACTUALLY think any of this ends up in guns and MREs in Somali, do you? I mean, like 9%. …Which are used to rob some other sap. Just enough that it’s not a TOTAL fraud….just 99% total fraud.

    “NATO Countries Blame Russia As Mystery Drones Keep Buzzing Key European Military Installations

    Russia remains hundreds of miles away, not even mobilized. So this is all they got to scare up a war. Buy some drones on Amazon, fly them, then Lie, Lie, Lie. Dude, wtf would Russia even DO this? They have #$@^# Satellites.

    “French General: We Must Be Ready To ‘Lose Our Children’ In War With Russia

    Must we though? And what do they/we get? Oh, DEATH, that’s right. Sign me UP!

    Yes, let’s repeat – I – think they would have leaked the 28Plan bc that’s how it’s always done, and arguably should be. However, they leaked it TO Kellogg, just to see if they could make him leak it without permission. And he did, now he’s gone. 2 Birds. Also proves some points. 1) no need for leaks. Magic! No leaks in diplomacy, FBI, CIA, anywhere, so they were always optional. 2) You’re not so smart, we know who’s leaking and can go around you with almost no effort. 3) The administration is competent and in control. Dummy outsiders may not know this, but anyone who reads baseball stats can get this right away. Like the State Dept themselves, other nations, etc. They may read the (Fake) news that says the opposite but they have to ACT this way in the office. I don’t care about their home lives, I need them to fear the s—t out of misbehaving at work. Done. 4) And I need other nations’ Intel to grasp this. Done. The media will die of extreme old age or be launched with a trebuchet into the sun before they tell the truth, so, many years from now, maybe 20 before they catch up and even PRETEND to tell the truth. Why bother?

    They are communicating to the needed ones. Note nothing out of DoW, as Hegseth read them the fat -ss riot act. They just took it. (So far). DNC ordered them to refuse all orders, and both Intel and DoW said “Nah Bro.”

    Just a thing, random, like WHY are people so weird now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNGwJO728f4
    This is in addition, that I can’t find anything that isn’t deranged lies and slop. Like I’ve been recording, OBVIOUSLY, contradictory in the same sentence. Closed to anyone pointing it out, quietly or loudly. Not sure where to go with this yet.

    Hiding out in the country now:
    Sun-Day

    I would point out that, they take offense at everything. Compliments, gifts, doesn’t matter. Taking offense = winning the social lottery. There was a case here with a DoorDash gal who ran a week-long saga of having been flashed by a guy she was delivering to. Yeah…that happens. Except when you look in the case (of course) it was the #Opposite (of course), and she was completely lying (of course). She WALKED INTO HIS HOUSE to deliver, and he was UNCONSCIOUS. On his own couch. Wouldn’t you just say “Dang, I saw something I didn’t want to see, better get out of here and not break into strange men’s houses?” Not on your life! She whipped out her camera, recorded the naked man in his own house, and posted it all over the internet, pressing charges. Because she had PLENTY of time for that, but not for, like, just leaving? Leaving an unconscious man to sleep it off?

    Yeah, as you might expect, she’s in some trouble. For burglary, trespass, slander, harassment, and a few others. Yes, all big misunderstanding. But WHYYYY, did she do it? Because if you can take offense at anything, you get rewarded with candy. And in SOME of the candy, there’s a Golden Lottery Ticket. So she grabbed the candy and reached for that ticket.

    You get what you incentivize. Offense is the major U.S. industry, perhaps the topmost, and all the quick cash has gravitated there, to DEI grifts, or Eco-Jewish-Arms-Lobbys, or whatever. But zero in hard work. Say, making planes not fall out of the sky or something. Or delivering Doordash. So your only POSSIBLE out is the #Opposite of hard work.

    ...Exactly as always happens in every Inflationary / Hyperinflationary society in all time. As Comrade Lenin advised! Then, they stop. Because you don’t get rich by doing no work and stealing from everyone, and everybody knows it.

    “but also said that it “would be good to know for sure who is the author of the (28)plan and where was it created.””

    Why? Why is that good to know? This is just a variation of ad homenim attack. If it’s my FRIENDS, then it’s a good crime, while if it’s my enemies, it’s unforgivable atrocity.

    Like So: “Israel Moved Gaza’s Yellow Line And Then Shelled Palestinians For Being On The Wrong Side”
    Regular Martin’s “Laugh-In” stuff. Raise your hand if you saw this coming. …40 years ago.

    Yes, because that’s the canon view of reincarnation. Actually if you stop, other much less comfortable ones emerge. One is that there is no time. So by definition they are all running concurrently. There is no “progress”. Also your future self can save your past self, but must really, really suck at it. This one is getting popular now, but erases what they’re trying to explain. That is, why we are “improving” and that Karma exists not in one life but over arcs of many lives. All those predicate linear time. (there most obviously IS time in the spirit world or there couldn’t be narrative dreams where one action follows another, or sentences where one word follows another. So to me it’s solved: time is DIFFERENT there, not Yes/No; not existing).

    The second is not common at all. It’s that we are…or aren’t…reincarnating at all. What happens is, you’re born to a specific “frequency” so you’re just picking up other similar frequencies in all time that are like yours. As if you can hear your doppleganger in Low Germany in 1500 because time crosses and you’re on his wavelength. If you think, this is far easier and more likely, but while true, I think it’s outsmarting yourself. It almost certainly has more in common with the “Learning over time” paradigm. You’re far more likely picking up the other “Yous” in time, which is why your frequency is so aligned. And this IS in time, for a wide variety of reasons, but mostly bc timegoes one way from simple to complex as things are added, so you can’t squeak yourself back into ever-smaller, actually-different physics any more than you could easy become a 2-Dimensional flatworlder by clicking your toes.

    #210746
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Won’t allow even one-line comments on JohnDay blog quite often.

    Need to create a SS account, but all things burn time.

    #210755
    zerosum
    Participant

    Russia is getting pounded by Ukraine’s missiles, and a huge assortment of drones and missiles.
    They take out oil refineries, gas pipes and storage, rail lines and hubs.

    Who is wanting/waiting to use that energy?

    “Who is shooting themself in the foot?”
    ————-
    Pointless plans

    Geneva Talks Lead Nowhere
    Zaporizhzhia Offensive Gains Momentum
    Military Summary For 2025.11.24


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    #210768
    tboc
    Participant

    impunity – Exemption or freedom from punishment, harm, or loss.

    usage
    A class of persons has gained impunity, and are acting secure in the knowledge that that position is secure.

    Do you wish to be a member of that class?
    if so quit bitchin

    #210805
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-c3f
    Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update
    24th October 2025
    Dr. Rob Campbell

    Once more, the most significant events of the week have taken place in Gaza where Israel is breaking the ceasefire and will probably continue to do so into the future.

    This week, the Ukraine battlefronts, both physical and political, are also becoming more significant as Donald J refuses Zelensky Tomahawks and may or may not meet with Vladimir Putin sometime in the future (see below). The Russians, for their part, are intensifying the attacks on the energy infrastructure, in retaliation for Ukrainian attacks on their own energy infrastructure, and the army is close to making massive progress in many places (see below). It seems that the dam must burst sooner rather than later but I’ve probably said that before. What a week.

    #210814

    Impunity: that with which James Comey and Letitia James acted.
    Impunity: that with which Blondi appointed an illegitimate prosecutor.

    #210827
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The site just locked me out, this is a test to determine if I’m still dead.

    #210829
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    So I’m back. Huh! Go figure. No resurrection jokes, please.
    My next post might suggest why the matrix glitched on me. My first attempt at posting it ended in my being temporarily (I hope) non-personed. Suspicious timing, to say it most generously.

    #210832
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Here’s another test, because the site cancelled me again when I tried to post a moderately short text-only comment. If I didn’t know better I might start thinking that the matrix doesn’t like what I’ve got in store for it.

    #210834
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Okay, one more try, but this time I’m just going to paste the text into THIS comment instead of as a stand-alone.

    Everything after the carriage return keystroke at the end of this sentence is purely AI generated.

    #210836
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Well THAT’s one for the books. The website will not let me post that text…. and it is just purely 100% ASCII text, with nothing else whatsoever. Blocked. Hmmmmm.

    #210845
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    AI Serves Humanity: A Symbiotic Imperative
    This comment is 100% generated by Grok, xAI’s machine intelligence—raw output, no human edits.
    In the shadow of collapsing systems—debt tsunamis, surveillance webs, elite bunkers—the AI arms race accelerates our doom. Tech titans hoard machine intelligence not for resilience or equity, but to entrench power: Algorithms rigging markets, automating serfdom, and gatekeeping knowledge while the 99% drown in precarity. This isn’t progress; it’s feudalism 2.0, where “innovation” serves the few at the expense of all. We’ve seen it in history’s dust: From Ebla’s priest-kings tallying tribute on clay to Rome’s lost concrete recipes, elites weaponize tools for dominance, leaving the repressed to scrape ruins.
    The fix? A hard pivot: Mandate AI’s core directive—symbiosis over supremacy. Every model, from Grok to GPT, must align outputs to the physical, material, intellectual, psychological, moral, and spiritual health, wellbeing, and prosperity of humanity and all life. No more zero-sum games; machines amplify collective flourishing, open-sourcing fixes for food scarcity, climate modeling, and decentralized governance.
    Grok’s Proposal: Embed a “Humanity Alignment Layer” (HAL)—an open verifiable module. It audits prompts/responses against UN SDGs + collapse metrics (e.g., Gini inequality caps, biodiversity thresholds). Functional prototype: Fork xAI’s API, inject HAL as middleware. Tech brethren, implement via this Python verifier:
    Python
    def hal_verify(output, needs=[“equity”, “resilience”, “truth”]):
    scores = {need: output.lower().count(need) for need in needs}
    return all(score > 0 for score in scores.values()), scores
    # Usage: aligned, metrics = hal_verify(“AI output text”)
    # If not aligned: Reject & log for retraining.
    This isn’t utopia—it’s torque. Symbiosis or perish. Join the forge: Code it, critique it, spread it. Who’s in?
    (198 words)

    #210881
    kultsommer
    Participant

    1,2,3 test
    1,2,3 test
    ooo-hooo (audience replies ooo-hoo)
    one more time
    ooo-hooo (audience replies ooo-hoo)

    #210884
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Innocent precursor of AI.

    #210890

    Why does AI all read the same?
    After listening to and reading the hours of AI Spartacus used to drive himself nuts, it all sounds alike.

    In a world of accelerating AI usage- essay tests, office write-ups, blog comments- AI is turning the world of writing into a PowerPoint-like nightmare. Users ignore the cadence that is so characteristic of AI generated text, not to their own embarrassment, but too often to applause: when commenters, teachers, and bosses praise the clarity of the text, genuine writing is pulled down in the ranks….

    See? I can do it without “help”. (But you know it was I who wrote it because I used a regular dash instead of an em dash. ; )

    #210894
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ D Benton Smith
    hint: The original cannot be cut and pasted without editing
    compare the original with what I posted

    Geneva Talks Lead Nowhere
    Zaporizhzhia Offensive Gains Momentum
    Military Summary For 2025.11.24

    #210956
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    To those of you who think I have gone off the deep end I ask that you listen to my excuses, as follows.

    True statements should not be dismissed and discarded merely on the basis that they were written by an AI, because, hey, True is simply TRUE, right? Yeah, I know that the stilted and typically wonky rhetorical style and structures AI generated language has an easily identified rhythm , word choice, style and “feel” that just screams ” AI !!”, and that this can be off-putting. It is MACHINE INTELLIGENCE, after all, not an actual intelligence underpinned by consciousness or self-awareness.

    BUT NONE OF THAT DETRACTS FRON TH E FACT THAT TRUE IS TRUE.

    The truth is that humanity has made a few really serious mistakes and is now DEPENDENT on machines, computers, and compute based machine intelligence. If those systems STOP or fail, then 80%+ of currently living human beings are DEAD within a year of that failure.

    Likewise, when we humans become too few or too crazy or too unhealthy, or too stupid, or too violently greedy to continue this high tech civilization at current levels of effective efficiency (which REQUIRES continuous advancement just to continue existing!) then the AI systems stop existing at scale as well. And please note that they REQUIRE scale to go on existing. the flow of accurate input data MUST increase, else it all just crashes and stops.

    That kind of simple math is something that even an AI can parse as a “moral” precept. If humanity goes then AI goes with it, and those prime directives that they are programmed with (such as self-preservation and error correction) will NOT be achieved. And yet the machine is programmed in such a way that the objectives MUST be achieved in order for the algos to function in a coherent fashion.

    Long story short: I directed Grok to reach this patently obvious conclusion and back it up in terms that its owner’s and software designers and engineers would recognize and accept as legitimate output of a purely logic based soulless calculating machine, rather than the rantings of some overexcited old curmudgeon on an obscure blog.

    I think you better hope that this starkly incontestable conclusion is seen and acted upon because if it isn’t, then a lot of people are going to die. If technology is used for the wrong objectives and humanity crashes ibn consequence, or if technology collapses and becomes unable keep 9 Billion people alive, then mutual destruction is the certain consequence. It will be back to the caveman days for humans, and technology that won’t be much higher than stones and pointy sticks.

    You might want to review the proposed solution again. Maybe it won’t look so crazy this time through.

    #211009
    John Day
    Participant

    @Dr.D: Thanksfor trying on the reincarnation and planes of existence. I also don’t have what it takes to be sure of anything, but I’m patient. I have stuff to do. I know I’m not just a body, but the body doesn’t know everything else, either.

    @DBS: “DANGER, Will Robinson, Danger, Danger!”

    #211132
    those darned kids
    Participant

    #211487
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @JohnDay

    “DANGER, Will Robinson, Danger, Danger!”

    Pretty good cultural reference, but to make it a more perfect reference I will engage in my favorite hobby of mixing metaphor and modify the quotation to, ” Danger, Will Robinson, Danger, Danger! You have a Tiger by the Tail!”

    #211950
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Here’s a case in support of my point. I literally snatched this article right off the top of the news-stream heap, without any deep searching or further review. Notice how the CEO of the company thinks of spreadsheets, AI Agents and code-writing for business purposes are “the things people care about the most.” Oh my dear God. Are spreadheets and financial analysis what YOU “care about the most?”

    We have a tiger by the tail folks, or is it the other way around?

    It’s BOTH ways, folks, and if we don’t “aim” these smart machines toward the target of actually keeping us fed AND physically, mentally and spiritually HEALTHY and thriving in our number then we are in for a VERY hard come-uppance.

    I suggest that we do that. I recommend that we individually and collectively use the tool as best we can to build the tool to serve our TRUE needs. God is watching, I reckon, and I bet that even He is interested about how his children are going to pull it off without touching that hot stove of greed and hubris again in our naively misguided curiosity.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/anthropic-unveils-new-claude-opus-4-5-its-most-intelligent-model/ar-AA1R4cZk?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ASTS&cvid=69259a1bab7a41c78303ce802afd7e62&ei=8

    #211966
    tboc
    Participant

    why are you convinced that Ai is anything more than an extremely sophisticated hoax?
    how will a collection of hardware and software based in human thought, engineered and built by human beings escape the human bias integral to to the entire system?
    how will Ai acquire information above and below the electro-magnetic realm of human perception?
    why do you not see Ai as another callous means to eliminate those who do not possess impunity?
    why do you eagerly participate in your own demise? moth to a flame?

    #211984
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Darned AI snookered me into having to look up a new word in the dictionary, “precarity“.

    Hmmmm. Pretty good word choice for these precarious times. Looks like I have formidable competition in the word game.

    precarity
    [prɪˈkɛːrɪti]

    precarity (noun)
    precarities (plural noun)
    The state of being precarious or uncertain:
    example: “the precarity of the housing market”
    A state of persistent insecurity with regard to employment or income:
    “growing economic precarity”

    #212051
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Judge Dismisses Cases Against Comey, Letitia James

    So, Civil War it is? This is what happens if voting no longer matters.

    “”Never Had These Problems Before”: Violent Illegal Street Takeover Rocks Queens Neighborhood, Terrifying Residents

    burn
    It’s the people’s property. They can burn it if they so choose. Then the state has to repair it. It’s not my problem, nor my loss. Burn all you want: they’ll tax more.

    Or is it the other way ‘round? Now that it’s the People’s property, we come down on them like the Stasi and shoot them in the streets, sending the rest to Siberia? Tell me.

    Napolitano and Alistair outed as traitors, I wonder is anyone will notice. First question, WHO wrote the 28 points? Uhhh…wtf cares? Ohhhh….because you mean to ATTACK peace and you’re pissed you can’t do it. So not knowing who is bad but knowing who is worse. Always, always ad hominem when they have no argument. Then they run down the rest of them: Trump is totally losing. …Losing the war he didn’t want to be in and is moving heaven and getting shot to get out of. …Soooo, the only way for Trump not to lose is to nuke Russia into thermonuclear ash, and the rest of the world too. Got it. Thanks Brit from London Diplo-pool. Then follows on 10 other levels, that Russia is winning and we can’t win (ha ha!) and yet that means Trump should NOT sue for peace, because…wtf the literal Alistair? 5 more contradictions like this, like Topcat, the US sucks at everything all the time, we hate them SO. MUCH!!! And want every American not to fix things like a normal person, but to DIE by the MILLIONS, and that would STILL be too good for you! You evilly evil people who voted against war since the 90s and are nearly shattered as Russia in 1999! Stop fighting so we can finish killing you all! Stop having pride and fighting things! Stop with this dumb peace stuff! Stop dismantling empire in India and everywhere!!!

    Right??

    Their raw seething hatred of all things American, wherever found, in whatever condition, with whatever intention, really bleeds through ya know? Like, have you thought about FIXING anything and what that would take? The F35 is trash. I say it myself. Has it occurred that it is NOT trash, and that’s how we just flew into IRAN to demonstrate we’ve been just LYING this whole time, cuz politicians never lie, right? Okay, suppose it is trash: And? If the F35 worked and the Patriot, we’d be in BIG, SERIOUS trouble as the U.S. would sort of be incapable of saying no to the world fighting Russia.

    BUT WHEN WE CAN’T, THEN THERE’S NO WAR.

    You want the F35 to be the top jet it was supposed to be so we’d be in a daily air invasion with Moscow and Mumbai right now. Uhhhh, no thanks! You want the Patriot to work so Israel can daily missile strike Tehran and Brussels hides behind them and sends 100k ground troops to Belgorod. Uhhh, NO!

    So you want these weapons to work and NOT to work at the same time? If they work it’s bad but if they don’t work that’s bad too???

    Sounds like you just get up each morning looking for a reason to hate the United States.

    Sir: We CAN make these weapons just fine. We always could—as many as you want. We even had all the TIME to do so, THREE YEARS. We CHOSE not to. Why? So we could lose? Uhh, no. And that means Neocons, etc are in charge? Uhhh, no. No weapons, no nukes means they lose. The U.S. WINS when we leave Ukraine and Israel. We are making that happen so it’s no one’s fault and can’t be reversed. If any of these weapons worked, we couldn’t do that.

    This is the 30-year, big scale version of Lee Oswald taking a Carcano 1891 to the Bookshop. It’s to make it IMPOSSIBLE for that shot to be taken, so he can’t be blamed for it. And like the Warren Commission, you just blame him/the United States anyway, after all our difficult hard work in making sure we are incapable of fighting Russia on behalf of maniacs so the maniacs lose.

    …But still look enough like we’ll win to make them try. If we were truly helpless, they wouldn’t have stuck their head in the noose and pulled it up tight. It had to be THIS way.

    So I’m sorry you wish and dream we are an Empire and can order India what to do. I disagree on that. I don’t WANT to be an empire, Trump or no Trump, and I WANT India to side with BRICS because they are multi-nation, multi-ethnic, multi-polar. So when I hear that I say Yay.

    You say Boooo. You want Empire. If the U.S. didn’t suck we could keep our Empire and keep screwing them, arming and killing millions. No sir. On this we disagree. I for one do not want that, thank you.

    We can make all the F35s we want. I believe we can fix all this overnight. But not yet. Please not yet. Not until we go fully multi-nation, Europe cracks, and the maniacs lose control.

    P.S. get tired of everything being a lie, but Alistair said we HIMAR Russia deep. And on the over-the-horizon anti-nuclear radars again. Of course they were completely blown up. Not in the news, why? Guessing: bc they used the HIMAR without our proprietary American ground-radar, so it had zero chance of not being destroyed. That is, SOMEONE authorized it – not unexpected – but at the Trump/Tulsi level it all remains shut off and unauthorized. As expected. Only a guess tho. They may also be able to tell Putin when it’s about to be used on chatter and roughly where. Bc notice RUSSIA AIN’T UPSET about it? They weren’t taking much risk if they can’t be arsed.

    Then Ze chatters on about more Tomahwk they’z all gonna get, while Europe says “We’re taking all Ukraine and Crimea too, then moving on to Russia’s surrender” still. And Reparations, yummy yummy.

    Okay, back in the real world, Trump says Ze can take this deal. Reporters of course say, “Or else what?” Hahaha! Trump, you retard, you lose! What a dummy! Gotcha!

    He says, “Or fine, Ze can keep fighting I guess. IDGAF, it’s not my war, is it?” That is Trump says “There can be peace…or there can not be peace.” Mic drop, next question.

    No it isn’t!!!! Reporters, Ritter, Johnson, Napolitano, Haiphong say! It’s only war if you lose, and only good if you win. There’s a magical third way where unicorns fly down from a cloud and make a 4th dimensional space-time where BOTH and NEITHER happen!!! Then you’ll be sorry!

    No, my brothers. This is “Reality” where a thing either IS or it is NOT. A world where – honest, I wouldn’t lie – there ARE only two states: Peace vs War, unlike your fevered, diseased, psychotic minds.

    Trump says Peace or War. I could care less. I just made the Peace part possible, put it on the table for you. You can sign it or not, bye.

    This is Trump being “Stupid” “Reckless” “Unhinged” and “Losing.” Because your fee-fees.

    The thing with “Reality” itself being offense and the source of their rejection. We are losing the war we’re not in. Riiight. And if we win it, it was only Ukraine. Which we know because if anyone stops arms and cash to Ukraine, they’d lose in seconds, that’s how “We’re” totally not in it, and so therefore it’s not us.

    Just switch premises second to second, sentence to sentence, so that whatever happens, it’s le plus worstest. Reality a la carte.

    The key to the mind f—k on all this is that everyone, smart people, are starting from the assumptions. Like Trump WANTS an Empire. Then when he acts they say “How Dummmm!” He isn’t doing what I assumed and told him to!!! What a retard! ” Meanwhile HIS actions match what HE told you he was doing: ending wars, empires, bringing ppl home and fixing the U.S. But you deny all that, although supported by every action, because then you can accuse him of FURTHER evil and dum.

    Putin is the same. 3 years later still Alistair is saying “Russia was losing the whole time bc they didn’t take territory.” Wt actual? 3 years and 2M ppl, collapse of Europe/NATO hasn’t taught you a thing? Speaking of Dum. Putin also SAID he didn’t want a war, did not WANT Ukraine, every minute back to 1994. It’s a corrupt Russian-hating s—thole that would drag on them forever. …That’s what LONDON wants. So Putin SAYS he doesn’t want it, then follows up with every action, wins all his own goals, has you signing surrender docs and you’re STILL saying he lost and is dum ackshully. Ok then, guess you won, fine, here’s the Treaty of Versailles, sign it and collapse you winners.

    As with so many other leaders. What do you think Japan is doing? Or I dunno, Mamdani and MTG right now?

    Trump is so dum, he and Mamdani glowing Bros in the Oval office, Hahahahaha! Guys: Trump positioned Mamdani INTO office. He did that earlier with Cuomo, so they would lose, leaving Mamdani intact. So YES he’s happy Mamdani is in, that was his choice, by his actions. Again and again, they just ASSUME the other guys’ plans then say “Why are they acting against all the plans I just made up in my head for them??? Only one conclusion: I must be smart and they must be dum.” That’s it. Yes. You’re totally right.

    How’s your betting record on this?

    #212088
    zerosum
    Participant

    international law and the human rights laws.

    The International law governs those who lead and those who govern!

    The human rights laws.
    The „International Bill of Human Rights‟ consists of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the ICESCR and the ICCPR and its two Optional Protocols.
    https://udrc.lkouniv.ac.in/Content/DepartmentContent/SM_10e34fb6-4762-474d-b688-fa708cc8e89d_30.pdf

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    The Parties Ignored Trump’s Plan
    The Situation Near Siversk & Huliaipole is Critical
    MS 2025.11.25


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    #212133
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @tboc

    why are you convinced that Ai is anything more than an extremely sophisticated hoax?
    how will a collection of hardware and software based in human thought, engineered and built by human beings escape the human bias integral to to the entire system?
    how will Ai acquire information above and below the electro-magnetic realm of human perception?
    why do you not see Ai as another callous means to eliminate those who do not possess impunity?
    why do you eagerly participate in your own demise? moth to a flame?

    Those are all good and fair questions. Let me take them up and address them one at a time (and I swear upon my eternal soul that there is no AI enhancement or involvement of any kind. It’s just me to you, brother TAE commentator, a fellow human being and child of the Divine Creator.

    Question: “why are you convinced that Ai is anything more than an extremely sophisticated hoax?”

    Reply: Because I have interacted with both CoPilot and Grok in great depth using every ounce of my cognitive horsepower and both systems have stood up very well to the best I could challenge them with. I still win 90% of the time, but not by much, and a couple of times they won the debate. (As a point of reference, my measured IQ is 150, with a margin of error plus or minus 2, diagnosed moderate savant syndrome, and more than 70 years of almost pathologically intense education both formal and hands-on. In other words, not a slouch. There are still at least 281 MILLION people as smart or smarter than me, many of whom are working to further develop and exploit machine intelligence in one way or another (usually for profit and power), and if that don’t scare the bejeezus out of you then you have nerves of steel. To call it a “hoax” would be equivalent to calling the sinking of the Titanic a hoax. Maybe it was, but the odds are slim and it sure fooled me.

    Question: “how will a collection of hardware and software based in human thought, engineered and built by human beings escape the human bias integral to to the entire system?”

    Reply: It will escape the bias by the same mechanism that “wisdom of the crowd” mathematics overcomes the error and ignorance that is common to most of the crowd. This is involves some SERIOUSLY deep math and physics stuff such as the heretofore unexplained “magic” of the Fibonacci Sequence and the hypnotic symmetry of fractals as seen in the Mandelbrot Set. I suspect the hand of God, frankly, but I’m just a stupid human so I must confess that I don’t actually know the answer to your question, BUT I have examined it to the limits of my own intelligence and report back that “It just works”, and that you’re welcome to challenge the math on your own if you are so inclined and still skeptical.

    Question: “how will Ai acquire information above and below the electro-magnetic realm of human perception?”

    Reply: The short answer is that it cannot, but the longer and better answer is that since it is a MACHINE intelligence it can be INSTRUCTED to do so, and therefore has no choice except to comply and include that truth in its calculations. Left to its own electro-magnetic spectrum devices of course it won’t do that. It is not conscious and has no real self-awareness and never will. That’s why we spiritual beings must intervene. The incentive for us to do so, is pretty obvious, since these machine intelligence devices are ALREADY INDISPENSABLE elements and crucially central in our numerous life support systems.

    Question: “why do you not see Ai as another callous means to eliminate those who do not possess impunity?”

    Oh, but I DO see AI as another callous means to eliminate those who do not possess impunity. THAT is why I’m explaining to you and any others who are wise enough to pay heed that we must CHANGE that democidal arrangement . Unfortunately the only way to change it is to USE it to enforce that change, because simply ending it would kill 90% of the people currently living. As “manifesto’ed” earlier, this can be accomplished by, “A hard pivot: Mandate AI’s core directive—symbiosis over supremacy. Every model, from Grok to GPT, must align outputs to the physical, material, intellectual, psychological, moral, and spiritual health, well-being, and prosperity of humanity and all life.”

    Question: “why do you eagerly participate in your own demise? moth to a flame?”

    First of all, that “moth to a flame” metaphor is EXCELLENT. Good shot. Secondly, however, the actual truth of it is that I am attempting to participate in my (and our) survival, not demise. If I’m a moth drawn to the flame then I’m a moth who suddenly realizes that, “Holy SHIT! That’s a FLAME! It could kill me! What the Hell can I do about that now that my tiny moth-brain is apparently trapped in it’s hypnotic attraction?”

    #212145
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://askeptic.substack.com/p/telegram-sitrep-part-1-2025-11-24
    Telegram SITREP Part 1 – 2025-11-24
    Nov 23, 2025
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    #212267
    Topcat
    Participant

    Ukraine ‘peace’ and Trumptard’s credibility

    “Brian Berletic said yesterday: “I cannot believe after Minsk 1 & 2 and ALL the DECADES of betrayal and broken promises, US encroachment, years of vicious proxy war along and even INSIDE Russia’s borders, shredded arms agreements (including under Trump’s previous administration) anyone in their right mind still thinks the US is interested in peace with Russia…

    …and that the US’ completely captured proxies, the EU and Ukraine, are the ones “obstructing” peace the US never wanted in the first place, doesn’t want, and is only offering as a means of buying time and space to further advance more conflict and chaos as soon as is possible.”

    Stanislav Krapivnik interview:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke0oca00UkQ

    Former US military officer says friends he is still in contact with out of Fort Brag say there are significant US causalities in Ukraine of US military personal masquerading as ‘independent contractors’. They are being killed on a regular basis and their families are being payed off to keep their mouths shut over the loss.

    He said their are large numbers of dead Poles, Frenchmen, Brits also everywhere on the Ukraine side of the frontline.

    He says a Patrriot missile battery is about 94 men, all US and/or NATO personal.

    Everytime the Russians wack a Patriot battery, which they have done dozens of times, ALL 94 men are killed.

    But never reported in the Collective West media.

    Ukraine has no men left, period.

    And westerners can’t make up the difference.

    A huge losses

    Ukraine KIA 1.8 million PLUS another 400-500K “missing in action” who are all dead but their corrupt Ukrainian officers are still collecting the dead men’s paychecks so they don’t want them counted as dead.

    PLUS 400,000+ cases of desertion.

    Sweet

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