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  • #197582
    those darned kids
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    that’s why i laugh when they say “muslim drug gang”.

    ¿¡how can a “muslim” sell drugs!?

    hahaha,

    that’s like saying the kkk is an evangelical organization!

    #197583
    kultsommer
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    POTUS.

    #197584
    Fully_caffinated
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    @johnday sub’d on substack

    #197585
    John Day
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    Thanks for the vote of confidence DBS. Folks are not beating down my door at drjohnsblog.substack.com yet.
    Indeed I do not have the same touch that Ilargi has refined here since I first visited in very early 2008.
    I’m also less regular, though my bowels are regular, due to eating fresh vegetables I grow.

    #197586
    Michael Reid
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    #197587
    John Day
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    Pete Hegseth wearing Russia flag tie? JD Vance clarifies amid massive outcry
    https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/pete-hegseth-wearing-russia-flag-tie-jd-vance-clarifies-amid-massive-outcry-101760801766568.html

    Red-Blue-White vs Red-White-Blue… Hegseth probably had no idea.

    #197588
    kultsommer
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    This is what October &th was all about.
    AIPAC has 5 000 000 members? Just woooow!

    #197589
    kultsommer
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    October 7th

    #197590
    Michael Reid
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    #197591
    Michael Reid
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    #197592
    Michael Reid
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    #197593
    Michael Reid
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    #197594
    Michael Reid
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    #197595
    Dr. D
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    No Tomahawks. What a surprise, who could ever see that coming? Except everyone.

    And dragged out another week, with hope so they didn’t nuke anybody and Russia took another dozen towns while JPM takes down London LBMA.

    What next I wonder. We’ll need to come up with some new BS to string them along. Or the banking system will break. Which it has.

    They’re like “The dollar will collapse!!!” No, it won’t. If it did, LeGarde would print infinity Euros, spend them, and keep it near $1.00. If you mean the OTHER way, then the USD$ ALREADY collapsed, from $1 to $112,000 in Bitcoin. From $250 to $4,000 against gold. From $5 to $50 against silver. Past tense. It’s late to buy if you didn’t notice.

    So in that sense, “The Banking system did collapse”. House, CRE, even stocks outside the top 7, the entire Russell, all “collapsed” against money. Past tense. They have now dropped 90% against it. Past Tense.

    So this radio commentator is all sooper-surprised and wants us to take over the country and defeat foreign influence by having no money and making no compromises. Welp! I guess we know why you all COMPLETELY TOTALLY LOST for 62 years in a row now! And BECAUSE you lost, MILLIONS of Americans were killed. Because you couldn’t get your hands dirty and TAKE POWER so you could stop it.

    Nope. You let Kaiser Soze stand unopposed, and do as he wished, so you could be the Oh-so-GOOD people, who never dun no wrong. In a WAR. Alright then, I’ve made my case. Think about it.

    Their brilliant plan now is, He/We are taking on EVERY power in the world from the last 100 years – except Russia, and maybe them too – and you want to say “tis but a scratch” and take on MORE power blocks, by adding the Pentagon, AIPAC, and Pharma? Not sideways but directly? Or else you’ll bail, give up, and hand power back to them?

    Well I am so, SO glad you are such a good GOOD person that another million Americans killed this year by ODs, by pharma, by bad health care, by suicide, war, cartels, crime, abortion, or whatever it might be, doesn’t bother you at all, being such a Very Good Person.™

    Millions dead = Good, ackshully. As long as it’s ME who dies, and not some gun-toting Palestinian somewhere. Any American dead = Good ; all other people on earth = Bad. This is your version of Wokeness, so thanks for volunteering me and helping me into the ovens, pal. We won’t forget. We’ll always remember how you didn’t help and said we deserved it.

    Orrrr…we could all just be adults for a second and do stuff. Only when you lift a finger, stop being a child, do you realize it’s more complicated than that.

    #197597
    zerosum
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    It’s not me. It’s them.

    Violation of ceasefire.
    All living hostages, are home.
    Killing, depopulations, blame, control, has not changed.

    Lying is still hiding the truth.

    #197599
    zerosum
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    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/8/ted-cruz-blames-nigeria-for-mass-murder-of-christians-whats-the-truth

    Ted Cruz blames Nigeria for ‘mass murder’ of Christians: What’s the truth?

    Nigeria is suffering complex security crises, but Republicans in US are eager to paint them as purely religious.

    In an X post on Tuesday, Cruz said 50,000 Christians have been killed since 2009 with 2,000 schools and 18,000 churches destroyed by what he called “Islamist” armed groups, but he did not cite sources for the information.

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    #197600
    zerosum
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    #197601
    John Day
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    Sneaking Out Of World War Three https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/sneaking-out-of-world-war-three

    Putin and Trump have some plan to wind down the war in Ukraine, which they discussed in Alaska in August. European “leaders”, and presumably European banking, did not like it, and aggressively pushed things like NATO country “peacekeeping forces” in Ukraine.Russia wants NATO militaries farther away, not closer to Russia.
    Trump said in September, about 3 weeks ago, that he “would know within a month if he could trust Putin”, and has been insulting him and disparaging Russia since then, finally looking like he would supply Ukraine with nuclear-capable tomahawk missiles and Americans to target and launch them, an overt act of war.
    Ukraine, most EU heads of state, and Raytheon ate that up. Much was made of Trump’s turn away from peace towards WW-3, and also of Putin’s unwise tolerance of Trump’s crossing of Russia’s red-lines from just last year, with so little public reaction. “Tomahawk missiles would not change the realities on the battlefield”, as opposed to “nuclear capable Tomahawk missiles launched from Ukraine into Russia would be an act of war by the US”.
    I have wondered if Trump and Putin had enough of a trusting relationship to be able to act in concert without having frequent communications, which would be very hard to keep secret from intelligence agencies, bankers and other “interested parties”. Could Putin and Trump have agreed to drag things out,Trump pretending to finally agree with war-hawks up until this sudden shift of a 2 1/2 hour phone call with Putin, while Zelensky was in the air to Washington to be given Tomahawk missiles?
    Tomahawk missiles would actually have to be treated as nuclear-capable when they entered Russian airspace, wouldn’t they? Russia has nuclear doctrines which cover that.
    I have not seen this possibility presented, but it has been rolling around in my mind the whole time. Putin does know that the enemy of Russia is “western” finance, which really needs Russian assets to shore up its balance sheets, which are purportedly in the red, though we can’t look.
    Europeans have been strung along with the belief that Trump would “give” Ukraine tomahawks and would launch some into Russia, which would at least ruin things between Trump and Putin, and could be made to spark war between them, the ideal outcome for European financiers and financially failing nations.
    They have been preparing to enter war against Russia in 2028 or 2029, but if the war ends this winter, what can they do to control their citizens, without the Russian threat? They will be entering their financial collapse without an external enemy, so their citizens will focus on fixing the national political economies. They will be ejected as the first step. Banking and finance, such as BlackRock, will be audited in step-2. Losses will be tallied and distributed without special wartime emergency powers.
    This would be a different “great reset” than the WEF has planned. We can hope for it, but maybe not bet on it.
    So freezing the line of contact seems to be the plan. Zelensky has to accept it, and has openly done so with the usual proviso to freeze then talk.
    Zelensky calls for ceasefire along current front lines
    The Ukrainian leader has said he agrees with US President Donald Trump’s proposal for an immediate truce with RussiaAfter Zelensky meeting, https://www.rt.com/russia/626637-zelesnky-ceasefire-front-lines/

    Trump calls on Ukraine and Russia to ‘stop where they are’ and end the war https://www.arabnews.com/node/2619295/world

    Russia has previously said they would freeze when they got all of Novorussia, and if Ukraine would retreat to what Russia claims, then that would work fine.
    Who can negotiate lasting peace? Zelensky doesn’t want to, and can’t, unless he is re-elected. Any Ukrainian who officially gives up territory to Russia might die very quickly. Whoever is to sign that paper will need protection and probably a new home somewhere else.
    Russia really wants an official treaty to end the war.
    If the line of contact can be frozen before the end of the year, perhaps in November, as the killing-cold blows in, then it might become the new border. Ukrainians will have to stop fighting, no matter how much they are goaded by European powers, who really can’t supply then with arms, absent US supplies, which are already drawn down.
    Would Russia settle for an incomplete meeting of their goals, absent civil rights for Russian speakers in Ukraine, de-militarization and de-nazification?
    I’m not saying that they would settle for modified goals, but a negotiated treate would take WW-3 off the table for European elites and financiers, leaving them to face the consequences of their many bad financial bets with the resources of Europe.
    I think Russia will demand a negotiated end to the war by treaty. I think they will be willing to sweeten the deal and soften this winter as much as they can for Ukrainians. Who will sign the treaty, the speaker of the Rada, who is constitutionally next, after the now non-existent president?

    Andrew Korybko lays out the history of this war to date, and considerations for ending it in Budapest, though he reasons from the position of nation-states being the deciding entities, rather than financial elites. The Next Putin-Trump Meeting Might Lead To Something Tangible This Time Around https://korybko.substack.com/p/the-next-putin-trump-meeting-might

    Dima covers the prospects and logistics of the upcoming meeting of Trump and Putin in Budapest, with mapping of the circuitous air route Putin will have to take over Turkey, the Mediterranean, Adriatic, Montinegro and Serbia. No Tomahawks For Ukraine – Pokrovsk Will Fall In The Coming Days – Military Summary For 2025.10.18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3QWMheLQC8

    #197602
    John Day
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    The BBC covered the discreet meeting between Trump and Zelensky as well as anybody. Even Zelensky won’t say what he and Trump, then he and European leaders discussed, when he finally got out to meet the press: Zelensky guarded on Tomahawk missile talks with Trump after White House meeting https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cj6ne4xjg6kt

    Simplicius sees it as all circus, and that Putin cannot budge from strategic objectives: Zelensky Gets the Fig Amid Trump Admin’s Whacky Day
    ​ Again what we see is Trump having likely euchred the world in gaining another extension on his perpetual ‘two-more-weeks’ sham of kicking the ceasefire can down the road. The Tomahoax served as lure to drive another PR moment to re-energize “talks” in order to continue the hoodwink that the peace process is again reaching some turning point or culmination.
    ​ In reality, no such thing is happening, as the US has proven entirely incapable of so much as even passingly acknowledging Russian security interests necessary for the war’s conclusion. So, what can the newly-proposed Budapest talks possibly achieve?​ …
    ..Now, just as in the Alaska meeting ‘coverup’, sources indicate yesterday’s Trump-Zelensky meeting was a total bust…
    “One of the sources said the meeting ‘was not easy,’ while the other simply said ‘it was bad.’…
    In reality, the sources said, Zelensky pushed hard on Tomahawks but Trump pushed back and showed no flexibility…
    ..As the political carousel whirls and whirls, the inexorable Russian military machine continues steamrolling ahead.​ https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/zelensky-gets-the-fig-amid-trump

    Big deals could be in the works: Head Of Russia’s Sovereign Wealth Fund Pitches “Putin-Trump” Undersea Tunnel Linking Russia-US https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/head-russias-sovereign-wealth-fund-pitches-putin-trump-undersea-tunnel-linking-russia

    Israel blocks humanitarian aid from entering Gaza despite ceasefire
    Thousands of tonnes of supplies remain blocked as UN and civil society organisations demand lifting of bans https://www.telesurenglish.net/israel-blocks-humanitarian-aid-from-entering-gaza-despite-ceasefire/

    Netanyahu funded Hamas for decades to block a 2-state solution: Israel Not Finished Fighting, Determined to Achieve Elimination of Hamas – Netanyahu https://sputnikglobe.com/20251016/israel-not-finished-fighting-determined-to-achieve-elimination-of-hamas—netanyahu-1122970851.html

    #197603
    John Day
    Participant

    Caitlin Johnstone, They Said The Massacres Would Stop When The Hostages Were Released. They Haven’t Stopped.
    But two years of genocide have made it clear that the Israeli military was never killing Palestinian civilians in order to push for the release of hostages or force Hamas to cave in to their demands. The Israeli military kills Palestinian civilians in order to kill Palestinian civilians. The killing is the goal, and it always has been. https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/they-said-the-massacres-would-stop

    Offshore natural gas: The Israeli Scramble for Palestine’s Energy Reserves (Pt. 1)
    As the Second Intifada was about to begin in September 2000, PLO leader Yassir Arafat celebrated a natural gas discovery in a fishing vessel about 30 kilometers off the Gaza Strip. “This will provide a solid foundation for our economy, for establishing an independent state with holy Jerusalem as its capital,” Arafat said. https://israelpalestinenews.org/the-israeli-scramble-for-palestines-energy-reserves-pt-1/

    Palestinian bodies returned by Israel show signs of torture; Israel continues killing Gazans – “Ceasefire” Day 6 https://israelpalestinenews.org/palestinian-bodies-returned-by-israel-show-signs-of-torture-israel-continues-killing-gazans-ceasefire-day-6/

    Israel’s exploding robots still terrorise Gaza neighbourhoods
    Israeli forces have erased entire Gaza neighbourhoods by deploying remotely controlled explosives. https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2025/10/16/israels-exploding-robots-still-terrorise-gaza-neighbourhoods

    Over 9,000 Palestinians remain in Israeli captivity following exchange deal https://israelpalestinenews.org/9000-prisoners-left/

    #197604
    John Day
    Participant

    Doghmush Clan & others: From Drug Lords to Death Squads: Israel’s Gaza War Continues through Collaborator Gangs
    Israel’s latest tactic relies on arming criminal gangs and former security agents to carry out assassinations and terrorize civilians, continuing its war on Gaza by other means. https://israelpalestinenews.org/from-drug-lords-to-death-squads-israels-gaza-war-continues-through-collaborator-gangs/

    Türkiye ready to join multinational Gaza force, defense minister says https://en.yenisafak.com/turkiye/turkiye-ready-to-join-multinational-gaza-force-defense-minister-says-3709410

    Natural gas revenues and not actual peace would help: Palestinian government unveils $67 billion, five-year plan for Gaza reconstruction
    Gaza ceasefire agreement reached between Israel, Hamas last week, based on plan presented https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/palestinian-government-unveils-67-billion-five-year-plan-for-gaza-reconstruction/3719045

    1 killed, 7 injured as Israeli warplanes launch 12 airstrikes in Lebanon despite ceasefire
    Lebanon will gradually increase number of troops deployed south of Litani River to 10,000 by end of 2025, president says https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/1-killed-7-injured-as-israeli-warplanes-launch-12-airstrikes-in-lebanon-despite-ceasefire/3719095

    Fears in Lebanon of Israeli Plan to Empty and Strangle the South Economically
    Intensified Israeli airstrikes on southern Lebanon late Thursday have heightened fears that Tel Aviv is enforcing a “systematic policy to economically strangle the south and prevent life from returning,” after expanding its bombardment to include civilian and industrial facilities used in reconstruction efforts. https://english.aawsat.com/arab-world/5198576-fears-lebanon-israeli-plan-empty-and-strangle-south-economically

    #197605
    John Day
    Participant

    What planet did I wake up on today? Senate Candidate Returns AIPAC Money As Pro-Israel Group Becomes Political Poison
    “In recent years, AIPAC has aligned itself too closely with Prime Minister Netanyahu’s government,” said Massachusetts Democratic Rep. Seth Moulton on Thursday, one day after announcing he was launching a primary challenge against incumbent Dem Senator Edward Markey.
    “I’m a friend of Israel, but not of its current government, and AIPAC’s mission today is to back that government…I don’t support that direction. That’s why I’ve decided to return the donations I’ve received and will not be accepting their support.”
    Moulton will refund $35,000 that he’s received from AIPAC. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/senate-candidate-returns-aipac-money-pro-israel-group-becomes-political-poison

    Looted by US-backed Kurds & sold to Israel through Turkey for a decade: Russia pledges to develop Syrian oil fields in expanded cooperation https://en.yenisafak.com/world/russia-pledges-to-develop-syrian-oil-fields-in-expanded-cooperation-3709409

    Netanyahu returns to court over corruption charges after Trump calls for his pardon https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/10/15/756943/Palestine-Israel-Netanyahu-court-hearing-corruption-charges-criminal-trial-resumed-Trump-urge-pardon

    ​ Palestinian Leaders. Stll Waiting for Marwan Barghouti. Mohammed Shtayyeh is “Appointed to Rubberstamp”. “Reconstruction without Sovereignty”
    Palestine’s Most Legitimate Leaders Are Imprisoned, Assassinated, or Disqualified​ https://www.globalresearch.ca/waiting-marwan-barghouti/5903062

    Mike Shedlock, US Masses 10,000 Troops Near Venezuela, A Top Admiral Resigns
    The New York Times reports Head of the U.S. Military’s Southern Command Is Stepping Down
    The officer, Adm. Alvin Holsey, is leaving his job as head of the U.S. Southern Command, which oversees all operations in Central and South America, even as the Pentagon has rapidly built up some 10,000 forces in the region in what it says is a major counterdrug and counterterrorism mission.
    It was unclear why Admiral Holsey is suddenly departing, less than a year into what is typically a three-year job, and in the midst of the biggest operation in his 37-year career. But one current and one former U.S. official, both of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss personnel matters, said that Admiral Holsey had raised concerns about the mission and the attacks on the alleged drug boats.
    “Prior to Trump, I can’t think of a combatant commander who left his or her post early, ever,” said Representative Adam Smith of Washington, the senior Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-masses-10000-troops-near-venezuela-top-admiral-resigns

    #197606
    John Day
    Participant

    Head of US command overseeing Trump ‘drug boat’ strikes steps down after expressing concern with the attacks: report
    ‘Serving as your commander and deputy for the past 34 months has been a tremendous honor,’ Admiral Alvin Holsey said https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/alvin-holsey-retires-trump-drug-boat-strikes-b2846974.html

    Mexico Calls for Respect of Venezuela’s Sovereignty Amid U.S. Threats https://www.telesurenglish.net/mexico-calls-for-respect-of-venezuelas-sovereignty-amid-u-s-threats/

    Trump’s Plan to Invade Venezuela and Abduct “Narcoterrorist” Maduro. Kurt Nimmo​, First published August 21, 2025​ https://www.globalresearch.ca/trump-plan-invade-venezuela-abduct-narcoterrorist-maduro/5898569

    Bush-Clinton-CIA Cocaine Funded Iran-Contra: The Irony Of Trump’s New ‘War On Drugs’: Recalling The History Of CIA Narco Trafficking
    For those who are aware of the CIA’s 20th century decades-long legacy in Latin America, the idea that the United States government and its intelligence agencies are fundamentally and on principle stand against drug trafficking is laughable.
    There was a time, not too far back in history, where the CIA itself was the biggest narco-trafficker in United States and perhaps the entire Western hemisphere (if not the world). This was to fund regime change and covert operations in Latin America after a belated Congressional crackdown on taxpayer funding for black ops. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/irony-trumps-new-war-drugs-recalling-history-cia-narco-trafficking

    Gently extending the new Chinese Empire: 12 Years Of Data Prove China’s Belt & Road Initiative Is A Debt Trap​ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/12-years-data-prove-chinas-belt-road-initiative-debt-trap

    #197607
    John Day
    Participant

    ‘Camus’ writes on X that in a stark analysis, journalist Whitney Webb dissects the fundamental mechanism of control being rolled out globally: the desperate need for our consent.
    The entire digital architecture – from government-backed CBDCs and stablecoins to the linchpin of Digital ID – is designed to fail without one crucial element: a captive user base. They cannot build the digital prison if no one enters voluntarily.
    Their strategy, Webb warns, is a classic “carrot and stick.”
    The allure of convenience and financial incentives is the “carrot” used to lure the masses in.
    Once dependency is established, “out comes the stick.”
    The ultimate goal is to engineer desperation. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/engineering-desperation#google_vignette

    Wait, we’re not ready for the desperation yet! SNAP and EBT Programs to be “Paused” Starting November 1 https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/national-news/snap-and-ebt-programs-to-be-paused-starting-november-1

    oops… How the Military Exposed the Tools That Let Authorities Break Into Phones
    The Marine Corps is trying to close a no-bid contract with Cellebrite, a company that helps police get into locked phones. The specs weren’t supposed to be public. https://reason.com/2025/10/16/how-the-military-exposed-the-tools-that-let-authorities-break-into-phones/?nab=1

    Greg Abbot likes to grandstand as a tough guy: Texas Governor To Deploy National Guard To Austin’s ‘No Kings’ Protest https://www.zerohedge.com/political/texas-governor-deploy-national-guard-austins-no-kings-protest

    Completely peaceful, lotsa oldsters: Jenny went in her Palestine flag t-shirt. Live Updates from Austin on nationwide ‘No Kings’ protest against Trump https://thedailytexan.com/2025/10/18/178986/

    #197608
    John Day
    Participant

    Extensive, large, layered and completely missed fraud: The Bizarre Bankruptcy At The Heart Of This Week’s Regional Bank Meltdown
    In short: unprecedented chaos… but it wasn’t just a busted bankruptcy and potential fraud on behalf of a shady investor group. It was also a bizarre absolute priority rule waterfall shitshow, in which nobody knew whose claims were subordinated or priority, and the result was a free-for-call collateral grab which was not quite rehypothecation, but was very close, and the result is that the secured lenders – Zions and Western Alliance – have now ended up chasing the assets pledged to their loans in court as the assets are, as the South Park cartoon puts it so well, gone… all gone. https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/bizarre-bankruptcy-heart-latest-regional-bank-meltdown

    (Nothing can be built without Chinese minerals) AI Data Centers Build Their Own Power Plants Because the Grid Isn’t Ready
    Data centers have long taken power for granted, said KR Sridhar, founder and chief executive of Bloom Energy (BE) which provides fuel cells to companies that need on-site power, often in a hurry. “You build the data center. Well, you just plug it in.”
    That isn’t possible anymore given the city-sized amounts of electricity needed to train AI models. One data center can devour as much electricity as 1,000 Walmart stores, and an AI search can use 10 times the amount of energy as a google search.
    President Trump in January declared a national energy emergency, in part to keep the U.S. from falling behind China in the AI race. He has issued a series of related executive orders including one that aims to fast-track data-center construction and needed power infrastructure. https://mishtalk.com/economics/ai-data-centers-build-their-own-power-plants-because-the-grid-isnt-ready/

    No kamikaze drones yet: Miami Is Testing a Self-Driving Police Car That Can Launch Drones – Meet the new surveillance state trooper! https://www.thedrive.com/news/miami-is-testing-a-self-driving-police-car-that-can-launch-drones

    Cells from aborted fetuses don’t count as “religious”. States trump parents: Supreme Court Won’t Exempt California Schoolchild From Vaccination Mandate https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/supreme-court-wont-exempt-california-schoolchild-vaccination-mandate

    I advised every pregnant patient against these shots. Pierre Kory MD, Covid Scientific Misconduct Rages On At The World’s Top Medical Journals
    JAMA just published a study in order to bury a severely disturbing truth – that Covid vaccine policy victimized pregnant women by killing an untold number of their babies. https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/covid-scientific-misconduct-rages

    #197609
    John Day
    Participant

    Peter McCullough MD notes that many measles cases are actually in the fully vaccinated. CDC Likely Concealing Measles Vaccine Failure
    Agency lumps “unvaccinated” with “vaccine status unknown” in deceptive reporting https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/cdc-likely-concealing-measles-vaccine

    Stop eating! Tests Find High Levels Of Lead In Protein Powders, Shakes: Consumer Reports
    Twenty-two of 23 products tested by CR had detectable amounts of lead, and more than two-thirds had unsafe levels of lead, according to the organization. https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/tests-find-high-levels-lead-protein-powders-shakes-consumer-reports

    Protein Powders and Shakes Contain High Amounts of Lead, New Report Says – A Pharmacologist Explains the Data By C. Michael White, Distinguished Professor of Pharmacy Practice, University of Connecticut. Originally published at The Conversation
    The new study assessed 23 powder and ready-to-drink protein products from popular brands by sending three samples of each product to an independent commercial laboratory.
    Consumer Reports considered anything over 0.5 micrograms per day from any single source to be above recommended maximum lead levels. That number comes from the California Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment, which established recommended maximum levels for a variety of substances that could cause cancer or fetal harm.
    It is significantly more conservative than the safety standard for lead exposure used by the FDA for drugs and supplements. The discrepancy is driven by Consumer Reports’ aspirational goals of very low exposure versus the more realistic but actionable requirements from the FDA.
    According to the FDA, the limit for the amount of lead that a person should consume from any single dietary supplement product is 5 micrograms per day. That number is 10 times higher than the Consumer Report limit…
    ..Four of the 23 products exceeded 2.2 micrograms, the FDA’s cutoff for the total daily amount of lead children should consume. Two products contained 72% and 88%, respectively, of the total daily amount of lead that the FDA deems safe for pregnant women.
    In addition, Consumer Reports found that two of the 23 products delivered more than what it considers a safe amount of cadmium per serving, and one had more arsenic than was recommended.
    The organization’s safety cutoff for cadmium is 4.1 micrograms per day, and for arsenic it is 7 micrograms per day. These numbers align fairly closely with the FDA’s recommended exposure limit for cadmium and arsenic from a single product. For cadmium, the FDA’s limit is set at 5 micrograms per day for a given dietary supplement product and 15 micrograms per day for arsenic.
    The study found that the source of protein was key: Plant-derived protein products had nine times the lead found in dairy proteins like whey, and twice as much as beef-based protein. https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/10/protein-powders-and-shakes-contain-high-amounts-of-lead-new-report-says-a-pharmacologist-explains-the-data.html

    ​This is a more accurate methodology. Nearly 7 In 10 American Adults Meet New Definition Of Obese: Study https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/nearly-7-10-american-adults-meet-new-definition-obese-study

    Depo Provera was always bad: NEW STUDY: Pfizer’s Birth Control Shot Used by 25% of U.S Women Linked to Disabling Brain Tumors
    A massive study of 61 million women finds Depo-Provera increases risk of meningioma by 240% as criminal enterprise Pfizer faces a tsunami of lawsuits. https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/new-study-pfizers-birth-control-shot

    #197610
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Goodness and badness are like any other competitive activity. The more you do of it the better you get at it.

    I think I’m being booted up to a better office. Easier work, higher wages and a great corner window. I’ll check in from time to time like once or twice per day until the electronic bells and whistles of the website (TAE) start turning again, or they don’t.

    Keep your powder dry.

    #197611
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Good thing I got that promotion because, looking around the cyber-scape, I don’t see many other job openings for aged curmudgeons.

    #197612
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    As a parting shot and for purely altruistic (and pragmatic!) reasons I recommend scanning backward through the preceding 147 comments, and take note of who has been “present” enough to leave a written and posted comment. That’s the Honor Roll (or black list, depending on one’s fundamental opinion about life). The later in the comments stream that the name appears, then the more honor accrues (myself humbly EXcepted from the list for obvious reasons. No soup for me!)

    #197613
    jb-hb
    Participant

    “No Kings!” = There shall be no Consul of the Plebes!

    The crowd is probably almost 100% people wanting to send anyone not taking a notavax to a concentration camp and confiscate their children. (Presumably to then groom and/or mutilate or give the chemical castration they give to convicted rapists)

    Congratulations Big Brain Leftists. You moved into the crowd and became the crowd. Literally. Just you and some drooling morons and mentally ill people You’re the crowd now

    And by your persistence and margins-are-the-substitute-proletariat, you’re quite solidly The Ick It might take a whole lifetime, 70 years, for that accomplishment to wear off

    #197614
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Would Substack be a workable home for TAE? I guess it’s obvious enough that it has already been considered.

    #197615
    Kimo
    Participant

    GROK: please generate code to reproduce the https://www.theautomaticearth.com using the same development tools where possible and a generous amount of commenting to help understand the purpose of various code snippets.

    https://x.com/i/grok/share/ZRdinBrNHS4Rs4MITBpchLMf9

    [they don’t call it the AutomaticEarth for nuthin]

    #197616
    Kimo
    Participant

    To be fair, this site seems 100% functional from a user’s perspective, with data resources entirely intact and servable [new word?], and accepting user comments for display to others.
    If anything is broken, it’s not immediately apparent to me. I then assume that Raul has experienced some admin functional loss, or his client has failed, leaving external tools missing or compromised. Or Raul himself is in an extremely bad way.
    If there is functional loss or dare I suggest, sabotage, the site would display error messages or no response at all.
    Should that happen, I’ll be looking for updates at John Day’s site.

    #197617
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Running out of fingers to plug the new emerging holes in the dam.

    #197618
    those darned kids
    Participant

    nice, dbs.

    i don’t get a lot of the arguing here: we all loathe the same psychopaths.

    i don’t get the left/right nonsense: it’s not 1972.

    hope you’re ok, raúl!

    #197619
    jb-hb
    Participant

    i don’t get the left/right nonsense: it’s not 1972.

    That it isn’t 1972 anymore is one of the prompts to understand.

    Leftists just need to depart from all the many places they invaded these past 10 years.

    As soon as I am not receiving abstruse quasi-metaphysical quasi-mystical academic marxist “training” for my JOB, as soon as they vacate my hobbies and interests, stop meatsuiting them, as soon as they vacate the institutions – the libraries, corporations, schools, hospitals, etc.

    As soon as they stop invading and meatsuiting everything, as soon as they depart, they won’t be an issue. As soon as they pledge not to use coercion and lies, but instead use good faith and honesty, as soon as they pledge to submit their views openly for review to honestly CONVINCE people, in other words, as soon as they give up on full spectrum war by any means, lay down their weapons, and rejoin civil society, there won’t be this current left/right thing you “don’t understand”

    Leftists always know what to not understand and what to not remember.

    Current year, practically 90% of arguing with a leftist consists of the Leftist pretending to not understand things and not remember things.

    #197620
    zerosum
    Participant

    Repeating, to emphasize the hidden truth.

    Putin does know that the enemy of Russia is “western” finance, which really needs Russian assets to shore up its balance sheets, which are purportedly in the red, though we can’t look.
    ————-

    #197621

    For those interested in Webb’s interview with Glen Beck, here it is.

    #197622
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @zerosum

    Your post #197620 (above) is the most accurately succinct explanation I have ever read of the financially situational quicksand that the West (the West especially, but not alone) is currently sinking into. The only words I would revise in your statement is the phrase “enemy of Russia”, to more accurately read, “…enemy of Russia and everyone else who believe themselves to have the right to survive and lead a reasonably good and successful life.

    #197623
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Re Kimo

    I agree. The site appears fully functional. Problematic WordPress sites don’t typically have comments working this well. Except for one thing — the comment html tag buttons are missing today. Something *is* up. It is possible that the RIM’s news each day is using a specific plugin that is malfunctioning. And it is very likely that RIM is doing poorly.

    Regarding reforming TAE elsewhere — this could be done. One very important aspect is that we have uncensored and unproctored comments. Yes, sometimes there is rudeness, mocking, trolling, name-calling, over-sharing, etc. — but in a world of AI and propaganda, TAE is deliciously <i>real<i\>. (Let’s see if manually placed HTML tags still work.)

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