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    Salvador Dali Back the girl 1926   • Second Wave Of Twitter Docs Reveal ‘Blacklists’ And ‘Shadow Bans’ (JTN) • Saxo Bank Predictions Warn Of A Wi
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle December 9 2022]

    #123000
    Dora
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    Dutch farmers battle technocratic forces driving them into oblivion
    Nash Landesman·December 8, 2022

    Dutch farmers battle technocratic forces driving them into oblivion

    #123001
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Philosophy or sommit, skip if not your bag, but KASSANDRA got me thinking…

    The hierarchy of illusions is the most difficult trick of the mind to overcome in my case.

    I still can’t help seeing all these different realities, opinions, needs, wants and life goals (or purposes) as flawed. Because I. AM. A. JUDGEY. BASTARD.

    If all is an illusion and we are effectively dreamers of the dream, here (seemingly) to learn to heal the sense of separation from Source – which is the essence of life force, love and the mind of God – then why the fuck do I see other’s dreams as lesser than mine? (BTW-this is a faith-based conceptual framework so…)

    Victoria Nuland. Adam Schiff. Hillary Rodham. Kissenger. Epstein. Gates.

    Why are their desires and goals worse than mine? Because mine are ‘nice’? Because I am empathetic to the feelings and experience of ‘others’?
    I sometimes feel as if my whole existence is a giant Shakespearean attempt at play-acting virtue.

    I mean I’m doing all the ‘signalling’.

    I live lean, love my wife and children and behave as a good friend. Hug trees and give to the needy when I have been flush. Have chickens and orchard – chop wood and carry water. (no Ukraine flag for now though)

    I ‘rage against the machine of death’ but if I am a dreamer – then the joke must be on me.
    The object is to wake up surely. Or at the very least, recognise my sleeping state.

    The world is then in many ways best seen – in it’s madness, as solid evidence of my slumber.
    What life is this that kills itself at every turn? Where virtue or venom are rewarded at random.
    Life that tortures and expresses lament and lack. Suffers but to die alone, as it entered this portal as well.

    I feel sometimes like my goals of raising healthy children and forest stewardship are pursuits a bit like putting lipstick on a pig. You can’t polish a turd, basically, and this life sometimes feels very shitty. Not that I am glum, mind you – just that I am staring into the fire like Kassandra and most, if not all others here, and saying to myself – Why the hell does it have to be like this?

    And here I go AGAIN – off with the dream. The one that sees people grow plants – that feed them and share the surplus. Who envisions a world where technological advancement is measured by who could hybridise the most delicious Cherry for 2023 or design the best, cheapest and most smoke-free rocket stove. For the ‘muscle-mary’s’ and the vain or physically-inclined – who can chop the most wood for the town.
    A dream where soil was worshipped more than the size of the flat screen.

    But scaling dreams in a virtue-ladder is to arm oneself with a dangerous trick of self-deception because behind it all it makes the illusion more ‘real’. Less able to be laughed at. More to be taken VERY SERIOUSLY.

    Where’s the joy in that? No wonder I can get myself in fits of cray-cray over the malevolence.

    Jesus sat dying bloody on the cross and Buddha walked as a beggar – they were not advertising the #influencer life of a perfect body-self. They were saying this is not whee salvation or enlightenment is to be found so be here, be normal but at the very least be mindful of what you are doing when you want to eviscerate Nuland – the arrogant bitch.
    You are saying that your dream is better than her dream when really you should look with love and charity on the sad state we are in. Life here is suffering and we really want – deep down the peace of God.
    That peace encompasses love and compassion for everyone – even the turds.

    Musing over, apologies

    #123002
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Twitter = Orwell

    Padding the payroll with censors Just In Time for the Plandemic

    Everyone stuck at home surfing the Intertubes and ‘working from home’.

    The many original Jacobins ended up with their heads on sticks.

    One can only hope history rhymes.

    The Fall of Robespierre

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    #123003
    Oroboros
    Participant

    In addition to the chart above on US diabetes

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    Something is poisoning our metabolism and causing us to gain weight because Obesity rates are up 30% in the last 20 years even though total caloric consumption hasn’t changed.

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    #123005
    Oroboros
    Participant

    More ‘customers’ for the Medical Industrial Mafia to feast on

    #123008
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Nigeria’s totally failed CBDC brings out the stick: Refuse to allow ATM withdrawals in attempt to force Central Bank Digital money nobody wants. …I have a hunch this will go about as well as Zimbabwe’s Central Bank control.

    This is after Ukraine going all-digital in a nation with no power.

    Brilliant!

    NY Times trashes the Rail Unions and tongue-bathes Joe Biden, then walks out on their own worker’s strike. “Solidarity, Comrade!” “Workers of the World, Untie.” CNN says “Strikes Hurt People.” I guess you’re required to work even if you don’t want to! They own you. Just like CSX Rail said. Thanks, pal.

    We find out that SBF’s father was mostly setting up and running FTX as their main lawyer going way back. Wot a shock! Rich psychopaths sacrifice their kids as a show of fealty to a certain well-known god? And Ellison’s papa too?

    Biden had two sets of kids go down, and a certain John Hinckley was first son of the Vanderbilt oil fortune, close friends of VP Bush. The same Mr. Bush who is the only American who has no idea where he was on 11,22,1963. But young Hinckley is just one example among dozens. Guess it doesn’t pay to be born rich. Or into mafia families.

    Anyone want to explain about diabetes in America? Or why no one cares? We’ll shut the world down and cause hyperinflation “if it saves one life” but if 15 million people get a quite deadly disease, we like it? When that disease also causes Covid deaths by the thousands? Yeah, I’m guessing drugs, even diabetes drugs somehow, but we can be quite sure it’s food-as-drugs, with HFCS, Glyphosates and other inflammations.

    Second Wave of Twitter Docs Reveal ‘Blacklists’ and ‘Shadow Bans’ (JTN)”

    Yes, but we know that. About 2 years after Twitter was born, but clearly the minute Dorsey was sidelined. When was that? Look at the Twitter employee chart for hiring government-approved censors. And although ignoring Sec 230 as a technicality as we seem to, that would be legal. The focus needs to remain on the SPECIFIC repression of free speech by GOVERNMENT, for purely POLITICAL ends. That is, Human Rights + Election Tampering which therefore installs an illegal government. Hey, would that be Treason?

    “Saxo Bank Predictions Warn of a Wild 2023 (Spears)”

    Always predicting economies and recessions that started a year ago. So their prediction is that tomorrow will be similar to today. Like the reversal of Brexit, we clearly saw that ALREADY handled, two YEARS ago with Boris double-crossing foot dragging giving them time to organize,and May refusing years before that. Then clearly in Miss Truss vs BoE, with the City of London bankers installed. DGAF what the British people think.

    Liz Truss didn’t do jack, nor have time to. Her response was mild and boring in the extreme. Now it may not have gone far enough, given the challenges, but you can’t just lie and say “It’s her! She was more radically laissez-faire than…” Well, there are no laissez-faire politicians, it’s an oxymoron, so I can’t insert any examples here. She did NOTHING. Her platform was like “Hey, let’s make bullion with one cube distilled from everything re-done from the last 40 years.” Weak sauce. It can’t also be strong sauce. Jeebus.

    US$ dominance is coming on 2 years old as MbS pulls Saudi out of the Petrodollar, and each new decision reaffirms it. He then pushes the IMF and Bancor? I know everyone is older and more geriatric than Mr. Burns, but that’s like 100 years old? No that ain’t gonna work anymore than we’ll replace our Teslas with horses, you tom-fools.

    AutoGyro

    “Merkel’s ‘Confession’ May Be Ground for Tribunal – Moscow (RT)”

    I was going to say, if only they could prove that the plan was to launch a major war of aggression, as we all know they planned for late March 2022, but that’s difficult to prove, but… No, they DID prove it. Just that the ongoing war of aggression was a human rights catastrophe against their own people in Donbas, which is provable. And that’s who they (Germany/NATO) armed and massed to genocide. It’s just that nobody cares.

    Still, I guess it would be clearer if Russia had let Ukraine attack them first. But what good would that be? As stated, nobody cares. All Russians/Slavs killed is a GOOD thing, always approved by the UN and the Hague. Look at Clinton and Serbia. We bombed the crap out of civilians there as usual, let Sarajevo be in a year-long siege as a demented science experiment, pointing at Europe “You got a nice city there…” and occupy and are still sitting on the oil pipeline today, flying drugs in and out of that base into Eastern Europe. Not even Bush is in the Hague, to say nothing of Clinton. “A Million Iraqi Children were Worth It.”

    Leads to next question: “What is a Court?” Can I set up a court and get two Proud Boys to haul Comcast’s CEO in front of me? No? Then what makes “We’ll set up a court” have any legal standing? ‘Cause we worship all process and power regardless of who or what they are? This is the real reason for all people – Navarro and Jones for example – to refuse to testify for Jan 6. THE COMMITTEE LITERALLY IS ILLEGAL. It was not created by Congress, under standard Congressional rules.

    Suppose I’m a 2-year Representative from Delaware. I’m elected. So I “Call a committee” in my kitchen in downtown Seaford and have two State Policemen haul the IHOP waitress from this morning who served my pancakes wrong. Legal?

    F- No! That’s straight-up abuse of power. The U.S. Congress as a body “Authorizes” a “Sub-committee” on a whole-body vote, and delegates specific tasks to them. There are rules concerning this so Huey Long or Hillary’s favorite KKK Wizard Senator Byrd don’t go nuts on us. And this is exactly what the J6 Committee has NOT done. They have not been created and authorized under the standard Congressional rules. As a method and first step towards causing a nationwide Civil War.

    This is what the “UN Court” would be. Who gives the “UN” authority – called “Jurisdiction” or “Law-Speak” over them? And suppose you do: who would enforce it? Having one part of the UN declare war on the OTHER part of the UN? Then that’s a UN civil war, a World War. That’s no different than not having a court at all and just shouting stuff. Or shooting stuff.

    THE PURPOSE OF THE COURT IS BULLS—T. That is, to LIE to the people of the world with the illusion that there is a thread of power, order, or jurisdiction there. There isn’t. Then when they enforce the Court that doesn’t exist, they will be able to LIE and sell the people on a WORLD WAR because they didn’t obey a court that never existed.

    It’s all about causing, creating, selling, fighting, war.

    “ US Trying to Make Ukraine Conflict Last for Years – Russia (RT)”

    Yes, but so is Russia, so it’s a terrible plan. Never fall into the time and plan of your enemy.

    The Zelensky regime, which has repeatedly tested Washington’s patience,”

    Yes, but Ze isn’t running anything and never was. He will be swapped and the real oligarchs remain. Both in D.C. and Kiev. (And London)

    “Russian leader also said that it was wrong to talk about the timing of the special operation or try to adjust it.”

    They couldn’t predict how deep the West would get in or how much support they could sustain for $100B/year. Clearly the Western citizens love to be f….but this is a family blog. Now Russia can see the West really, honestly wants world-wide nuclear annihilation or bust, so, there we are.

    “[Zelensky] can’t go forward with full peace negotiations with Russia,”

    Why would he go forward? From a coke-snorting actor in a country nobody watches, he’s now the richest most powerful man in Europe. Most celebrated leader of all time. Owns multi-million dollar houses in Miami, has an Oscar.

    “total expenditure by member states will grow by €70 billion over the next three years.”

    1) that’s near-zero 2) It’s not “money” that they need, but the raw materials the money buys. Those materials are in China and Russia. $70B ÷ 3 = $23B/yr, over a $17,000B economy = 0.14% GDP. Or another way, $23B/27 = $850M per country. So one non-flying jet?

    ““After the Cold War, we shrunk our forces to small-size armies without coordination …”

    Yes, they made the United States pay for it so they could have free health care. So Davos > NATO > Pentagon. The U.S. is a colony of Europe, that’s why “America First” is a declaration of war.

    “FBI Sees ‘Threat’ in Apple Encryption Move (RT)”

    They are kidding, right? This is all eyewash. Lies, like all Apple “Security”. Not only is their stuff garbage, but unless very carefully constructed, anyone with access to the server core can un-crack any encryption. What “threat” is that then? That they need a legal subpoena and search warrant and can’t read everything out on the curb like Clapper does?

    BTW the refusal of BlackBerry (a Canadian company) to give the FBI (A foreign government) every back door caused them to run BB out of the cell phone business. With help from Verizon, Google, etc, in a merger of Corporation and State. Worldwide merger.

    “Nobody who was pro-China survived the selection process or came anywhere near central power.”

    A perfect microcosm how the whole Leviathan works. Not with some KGB agent visiting your house. That’s too hard and too expensive, it causes resistance. It’s just “WE” do not think that. All other ideas, histories, medicines, opportunities are un-discussible. This is technically Overton Window, but its meaning is very deep.

    Look at ecology and farming for example. Shutting down 3,000 farms in a food crisis, while also not mobilizing for food and permaculture in a Biden-declared world war. “We” do not think that. We just sit and starve and get mad at desperate people robbing our condos. Wars mean we un-mobilize food and un-Victory Garden.

    “Receiving and publishing classified information is routine work for journalists at major publications.”

    But now journalists don’t do that – journalism, I mean – so they have nothing to worry about.

    “The Obama administration declined to indict Assange in 2011 because it understood that it would also have to indict New York Times editors”

    Ditto. But note that only 10 years ago we apparently had remnants of logic and law. Mild attempts to avoid being attack-enemies/help-friends hypocrites. Not no more! We don’t even notice. Mad as hens at anyone who points it out.

    “Everyone Is Sick Right Now” –Wired.
    Amanda Hoover, “Science”, or lack thereof.

    #123009
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @oxymoron

    Thankyou for the carefully expressed thoughts and observations. Not very cheery, but worthy of deep reflection. I’m going to be rereading it many times today.

    #123010
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Merkel Confession

    Another secret Blood Drinking Satanist.

    I feel vindicated in using the term ‘satanist’ to describe ‘leaders’ in the Collective West because Putin himself uses it referring to them.

    Russia will NEVER negotiate with Eurotardistan until the entire generation of western Satanist are dead and buried, preferably with oak stakes driven through their hearts.

    Boris Johnson asked if Angela Merkel was part of Stasi before G7 Summit (2021)

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1449672/boris-johnson-news-angela-merkel-stasi-g7-summit-spt

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    #123011
    chooch
    Participant

    Oxy thanks for that. I need to chop more wood and carry some water.

    #123012
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @oroboros

    Starting in 1974 High Fructose Corn Syrup started replacing Cane Sugar and Beet sugar in the production of processed foods, and now accounts for just over half of the sugars consumed by humans (it started at virtually zero, percentage wise).

    It is marketed and described as virtually identical ( both chemically and nutritionally) to the other two sugars but there are two little things about it that make it different.

    The first thing is that for not-yet-understood reasons Fructose does not trigger the hormonal response that tells the brain “That’s enough sugar for now, boyo. You can stop craving the sweets for now.”

    And the second little difference is that it’s WAY cheaper, both to make and to use in the industrial food process.

    #123013
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Here is Merkel with her fellow communist soldiers where she had the role of propaganda officer.

    She denies that she was close to the communist rulers of East Germany even though this photo shows her at the age of 17, happily involved in a civil defense exercise under the gaze of an East German officer.

    Obviously, she would have felt much less “happy” if she had refused an order by the communist dictators running the country.

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    #123014
    Oroboros
    Participant

    And from the other end of the Neverland spectrum

    (Conspiracy) Theory 1 – Stasi’s documents reveal that German Chancellor Angela Merkel is Hitler’s daughter. Born on July 17, 1954, according to the Russian KGB, she is one of Dr. Karl Clauberg’s experiments. Secret documents by Stasi show that Dr. Clauberg brought Eva Braun from Western to Eastern Germany to use her as a surrogate mother for Hitler’s child. He completed the artificial insemination once he was released by the Soviets and finally, Angela Merkel was …born.

    Dr. Clauberg is recognized as the father of artificial insemination…..

    The tale may be truth or fiction, but nobody can deny that Merkel has a resemblance to her alleged …paternal grandmother:

    Mommie Dearest…..

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    #123015
    Dr. D
    Participant

    I don’t enough about Oz, but cannibalism was here in N.A. The Aztecs (Mexico) and the Iroquois (NY) who are probably the same ethnic peoples, the colony of mound builders come up the Mississippi and round trip through Huron Canada and back south again. They gave up cannibalism in a big story of “The Peacemaker” maybe as recently as 1300. But if memory serves, it was ritual off and on with many tribes coast to coast. And of course slavery was a huge business for them. Different than ours, but: slavery. And if you ran, bash your head in.

    Trade that? Or the ecological misery the competing culture brought from Europe? Meh: who knows? But the problem is they’re human. And Euro-humans are no better or worse than the others.

    Murphy can’t probably be a shill, as by definition: shills know they are part of the scam. The general run are morons, because they can’t seem to see the next logical step that’s the size of a woolly mammoth in front of them. There may be a reason for that as that oliphaunt says “No technology” “No standard of living” and “prepping for war and mass-murder” like their social enemy: Christian Conservatives do. (Or so they think.) They can’t make that turn, and so just freeze like morons in the headlights.

    Sad part is, if they went through it completely, they’d pick up the thread past the Spam-n-guns line. That is, there’s a whole bunch of community, food producing, energy-saving, life-changing patterns that are not being used at all and nobody is aware of yet. But you have to have the courage and bravery to face the scary thing and just tell the truth. To yourself first, then others.

    There’s a steady trickle of Greenies who get there – and from the other side too – but nowhere near what we need. As Benton says that requires all the effort of understanding how all the technical things function from the ground up.

    To be brighter, here’s a Huron Carol, in original Iroquois, Canadian standard:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDWFIkndKxc And unlike many, Iroquois is still a spoke language with a (successful) going people.

    #123016
    Mister Roboto
    Participant
    #123017
    Oroboros
    Participant

    All human ‘cultures’ pass through the Dark Glass of cannibalism and ritual human sacrifice.

    Like the hormonal confusion and rage of adolescence, all things pass.

    But by not coming to terms with it, cultures then develop various forms of collective mental illness.

    Woketards are still denying this phase in various Native American cultures.

    no,no,No, there couldn’t be the remains of butchered human bones in Anasazi ruins.

    Ecological collapse teaming up with remanent Aztecs insinuating up from Mexico could never have happened. White racism!

    #123018
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Educate yourselves a little bit about how Jane Goodal finally had to come to terms that her beloved Chimps she had spend a half a life time studying had indeed a very deep Heart of Darkness.

    Humanity came from those Chimps.

    They had some ‘baggage’

    #123019
    Kassandra
    Participant

    Thank you oxymoron for your reply. That’s very much how I feel. I’m starting a project to convert a room in my basement to a bedroom. It stays warmer in the winter, and very cool in summer. It even has a fireplace. Another project to use less energy and finish this old house. But it’s hard to keep moving forward towards the future when it all feels so hopeless.

    I don’t know if anyone is familiar with the Front Porch Republic, maybe I saw an article on here and don’t remember. That’s where I go to feel hopeful after reading the morning rattle. https://www.frontporchrepublic.com/

    #123020
    Just Some Randomer
    Participant

    Regarding the Diabetes epidemic in the US and possible causes – one thing that seems clear to me, based on extensive international work and travel is that overweight Americans are a very different shape from other nationalities. There is an identifiable ‘Fat American’ silhouette recognisable immediately from a hundred yards away – something about how the weight is unevenly distributed, mostly carried low around the torso

    I suspect that there is something common in the US diet, not present elsewhere, that is behind this. The leading contender, to my mind, would be HFCS – a substance widely banned outside the US but which seems to be on the ingredient list of just about any damn thing you can buy in a US supermarket.

    Normal old refined sugar is pretty much a toxin in its own right as far as I am concerned but this HFCS stuff is likely doing a whole nother level of damage to the body’s ability to regulate insulin levels and manage energy usage/storage.

    #123021
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Oroboros
    Something is poisoning our metabolism and causing us to gain weight because Obesity rates are up 30% in the last 20 years even though total caloric consumption hasn’t changed.

    Now, that is an interesting observation. I had assumed caloric consumption was also up, considering how cheap calorie rich, nutritionally lacking food is all around us.

    #123022
    zerosum
    Participant

    🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 Zelensky is riches man on earth 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
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    There is a lot of money to be embezzled” through Ukraine aid programs, she alleged. Zakharova claimed that Western assistance was “a corruption marathon” going from the White House to Kiev and back again and profiting grifters on a global scale.
    • US Trying To Make Ukraine Conflict Last For Years – Russia (RT)

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    Propaganda is just copying and pasting
    (Get the vaccine. It doesn’t prevent getting sick, or doesn’t prevent you spreading the virus, and it will compromise your immune system so that it will be easier to getting other illnesses )
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    oxymoron
    YEP!
    Zelensky is riches man on earth

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    #123023
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I wish people would stop referring to the “Intelligence Agencies” or the so-called “Intelligence Community” as though those things were somehow “contained” entities that could be encapsulated or identified in terms of name, address, administrative structure that could be given an official title, abbreviated with a three letter acronym and stuffed into a cubby hole.

    That’s just not how covert intelligence works.

    It works on the principle that THERE ARE NO PRINCIPLES , other than power and expediency, and that maintenance of such power and expediency requires secrecy and the complete absence of external control. Period.

    The “intelligence community” answers to superiors.

    The hand that holds the secrets is the hand that rules that rules the world.

    #123024
    John Day
    Participant

    Last night DBS asked about my reply, “Sawatdi krap”, to V.Arnold, who wrote “testing” just before comments flipped to a new page:
    “@JohnDay Hello to you, too, but who are you specifically addressing? (my son-in-law is Thai)”


    @aspnaz
    : Try simply disagreeing, rather than casting aspersions and calling names.
    There is disagreement about climate science in society, but what I presented about the effects of India hitting Asia and driving the Himalayas up to where they sequester CO2 into calcium carbonate is a thing that clearly happens. There is a whole lot of calcium carbonate at the bottom of the Indian Ocean, and it is measurable in the Ganges, and so on.

    #123025
    John Day
    Participant

    Weight Gain:
    Both high fructose corn syrup and artificial (“diet”) sodas cause weight gain in humans.
    The artificial sweeteners taste sweet, so the brain signals the pancreas to make insulin, which lowers the blood-sugar, so then the brain says “EAT!”, because the expected sugar-dose never arrived.

    #123026
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    @Dr. D

    Semaglutide

    Type 2 not generally Type 1

    Lose weight cure type 2

    Some treatments, bariatric surgery and semaglutide and tight control, lead to complications such as Early Worsening of Diabetic Retinopathy.

    Personal observations from the past 38 years in medicine
    -most type 2s don’t take in excess calories. So why do they gain weight? Dishonesty?
    -exercise calorie consumption doesn’t reduce weight calorie per calorie. Is ‘exercise resistance’ similar to insulin resistance? Tachyphylaxis?
    -semaglutide works. Why? It reduces appetite, reducing calorie intake, causing weight loss.
    Does stress+appetite cause weight gain even without corresponding increase in calorie consumption?
    Does the gut become more efficient under stress to extract ‘more’ calories from food than what is predicted?

    Semaglutide

    Author’s disclosure: sadly owns No Novo Nordisk stock NoNoNo

    #123027
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    A few comments about the Australian aborigines.

    Scholarshp in recent years has greatly expanded our knowledge of their societies and cultures.

    No, they weren’t perfect. They had their squabbles and fights. They’re human beings after all, just like the rest of us.

    No record of cannibalism, ritual or otherwise.

    At the time of the European invasion, they were managing the entire continent almost as one huge estate, and managing it very well.

    Little starvation, even in central Australian areas. Early British explorers starved to death in country that was supplying the aborigines with an ample, healthy diet.

    In south-eastern regions, the Aborigines were harvesting and storing food surpluses in purpose-built granaries. The British burned them down upon discovery.

    The country has been “sheep-wrecked”. Sheep and cattle have hard, chisel-like hooves which cut into the ground, destroy plants and damage the soil. (Same sort of thing is going on in contemporary Scotland.) Sheep feed by pulling plants out of the ground. The flat-footed marsupials feed by cutting the plants off above ground, letting them regrow. Cattle have been similarly destructive, especially in view of the deliberate over-stocking.

    Many European photographs of Aboriginals sitting under primitive shelters depict not a primitive, unmeritable culture but rather a defeated, dispossessed people. Their means of livelihood have been denied them, their food supply decimated. (Reminiscent of parts of modern Europe.)

    In some areas the British gave the Aborigines blankets infected with smallpox. Reasons obvious.

    There is much, much more. I can provide references if anyone is interested. Otherwise I shall say no more.

    #123028
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    A few comments about chimpanzees.

    Chimps are nasty. I was told by a keeper of primates at the Wellington Zoo (NZ) that a fully-grown chimp has the strength of 10 adult men. TEN. The zoo has elaborate security and safety procedures and facilities in place. (For the record, a fully-grown orangutan has the strength of 7 adult men. SEVEN. No wonder orangs are routinely killed in Borneo when their forest is destroyed for palm oil plantations.) If a chimp manages to get hold of you the monkey can easily hold you in place, tear off your limbs, poke out your eyes, and you can do nothing about it except pray and scream for quick rescue.

    The chimps one sees in the movies are all juveniles, as they are still weak enough to control easily. Chimps are nasty: they are unpredictable and can be very destructive.

    In Africa there is a very similar-looking species, the Bonobo, whose territories tend to be adjacent to those of chimps. Bonobos are gentle and good-natured, and predated upon by chimps.

    Why on earth the human race has gravitated to the vicious chimp instead of the gentle bonobo is a mystery. Or is it?

    #123029
    oldandtired
    Participant

    US to collect $2.6 trillion dollars in Income taxes for 2022. Record set due to raises in pay throughout workforce.
    Excise tax. Federal and state. Taxes virtually every good and service.
    Don’t take your inherited distribution on time? 50% penalty.
    Food? Taxed.
    Sell a piece of real estate? Taxed.
    Clothes on your back? Taxed.
    Die (from Covid) taxed.
    Drive a car? Fuel, oil, tires, spare parts all taxed.- both excise tax and sales tax.
    Glad everyone is paying their fair share.
    People, this is your money they are taking! You worked hard for it, spent time away from your home, put up with difficult or dangerous circumstances, lost opportunities to do other things you would have preferred.

    Blew holes in the sand all over the world with your money. Rockets that you pay $1500 a pound for- they weigh over 500 pounds-do the math. Blowing up infrastructure all over the world. Trillions of dollars of your hard earned money. With no end of spending in sight. Not moving your country ahead one inch. What is the most expensive thing you have in your home right now? That little Ukrainian flag you have hanging in your front window!

    #123030
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @phoenixvoice

    I had assumed that the USer’s epidemic of obesity was the Sheeple just becoming ‘fat, dumb and lazy’ and eating way too much crap ‘food’ but with the chart showing level caloric intake over decades the focus should shift to HFCS.

    HFCS being a by-product of the GMO Ethanol Corn Industrial Mafia

    The health effects, diabetes and obesity, then feed into the Medical Industrial Mafia’s business model of, treat symptoms, not causes, with products from the Big Pharma Mafia

    Then the Media Industrial Mafia completes the Circle of the interlocking Directorate of Mafias by not reporting on the situation and providing misdirection services for The Empire of Lies.

    Will the Circle Be Unbroken

    Gregg Allman

    #123031
    John Day
    Participant

    @Oxymoron: Thanks for the musings…

    #123033
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    The eyes of compassion create a searchlight that makes the wounded want to hide the qway a child with a scraped knee avoids having it cleaned.

    ***

    Line from an imaginary near-future crash dystopian novel: Gated communities were the best. You just crashed in and rounded ‘em up in their prefab pen.

    ***

    sinnycool, I admire your style. I am not quite yet prepared to emulate your positively-oriented active restraint. I have not yet exhausted learning what good might be done with the aid of a baseball bat, but other than that, I find that you and Polemos walk the talk-talk in a way I rather fancy.

    ***

    afewknowthetruth: I admire very much your overall understanding of The Big Picture and command of data relevant thereto. Summations like these:

    “Since the future welfare of most people will be largely determined by the average ambient temperature and the ability to stay warm in the winter, the availability of locally-grown food and the number of people competing for locally-grown food there really can only be one answer.
    “Bear in mind that resistance to the Scorpion is building by the day, and every move she/it makes to crush resistance increasingly exposes her/it for the tyrant she/it is, and increases the resistance.”
    <>
    “The crime of being poor but also of having a useful trade and being ambitious and wanting to get out of the cold concentration camp. “Or already being extremely wealthy via criminal activity and willing to help loot the place.”

    Very much work for me. Not that it need be any concern of yours, but I do find your style off-putting. One wearies of forever being preached to. But that’s just my style of tea, and your agenda knows itself better than I do.

    ***

    “It’ll be hard on Elon too. For instance, he tweeted that Twitter doesn’t employ the Perkins Coie law firm. And then someone sends a Dec. 8 paper that says it does. How now?”

    Probably not much of a problem. At this stage of the game, Elon can use Claude Rains’ “Apparently, I was misinformed” clause and get out with a little skin abrasion. In the long run, though…

    Where You Gonna Run To?

    #123035
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    I adored oxymoron’s heartfelt post pondering why it all seems so dirty and futile at times. Every word except these: “Musing over, apologies”

    If I read one more person apologize for expressing genuine, deep, well thought, powerfully felt ideas and emotions, I will… (gimme a minute, I’m thinking…) I will dress up like Madamski Santa Claus and show yez my mangina. I swear it. I mean it. I’m quite capable of doing such a thing… as soon as I find a mangina I can borrow.

    Fucking criminy! How can we rail against the outrages and devastations and mindfuckeries and arrogant stupidities and not feel permission to be and express whatever the fuck it is that we are, too often suffering deep depression as we see the world darken on a global scale? How can we tilt at a 1,000 windmills, most of them genuine dragons, and not feel encouraged to share our asouls with one another.

    What worth is it to care so much about the countless horrors that we exhaustively catalog their rapine and carnage but not hold up our hearts to each other as proof that it just might be worth keeping on to keep on keeping on?

    You don’t want to see what he saw:

    Old Gregg

    So start acting human awreddy (as oxymoron so wonderfully did) or be genderifically blinded for life. Ye bin warned. I keep all options on the table. I may even log in under a new pseudonym. Stop.acting.like.political.chatbots! Please??????????????

    And, well done, oxy, well done. Well, you made me cry, and I kinda like crying. Beats hell outta depression.

    Beating the Heart Like a Red-Headed Stepchild

    ***

    Today’s Yogi tea tag message: Inner peace creates peace in the world.

    Relevant song: Prince of Peace

    ***

    Xmas music would rather kill you than stop: We Three Kings

    #123036
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    In 2018, Twitter was doing fine with the same amount of people they now employ.

    In 2018, Twitter was doing fine with the same number of people they now employ.

    I know we cannot stop the destruction of the meaning of words. But we can die trying to stop the destruction of the meaning of words.

    Amount is for stuff that cannot be counted. Like sand.

    Number for objects or living organisms that can be counted. Like people.

    #123037
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “‘If I was a strategic thinker in the non-western world I would be thinking about what to do with my US dollar reserves..’”

    I’m trying to figure out how to convince my wife that she needs to cash out her retirement chits, and that we need to go on a cash basis where possible. If I thought keeping her unvaxxed was hard, I’m in for some toughening up. ‘Retirement account’ is a Holy Term.
    The Big W

    ***

    please stand 5789ffgg by; technical difficulties as we dodge erratic spambots,.nn

    Poor little Zelensky. He’s hardly an Uncle Stalin helping us fight the Axis. More like Joel Cairo in The Maltese Falcon sucking up to Sam Gutman, the Fat Man.

    The Russian’s Hand

    I think that sometimes we forget the obvious factor in the Ukraine conflict: The western nations are trying to steal Russia’s oil by coercive means including martial. Unwilling to admit that they’re too weak to take it from the Big Bear, they throw every straw dog its way that they can dig up. Meanwhile, the Bear grows increasingly impatient. I doubt its patience will hold when the petrodollar finally vaporizes, a process already well underway.

    ***

    I heartily endorse the happy animal videos.

    #123038
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “Personal observations from the past 38 years in medicine
    -most type 2s don’t take in excess calories. So why do they gain weight? Dishonesty?”

    More likely it’s the type/quality of calories, factored with type/amount/quality of exercise and that odd thing: quality of life: happiness.

    #123039
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “Why on earth the human race has gravitated to the vicious chimp instead of the gentle bonobo is a mystery. Or is it?”

    Genetic lineage, I would think. Bonobos would rather fight than fuck but chimps like to fuck AND fight.

    #123040
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Aside from sugar and HFCS, one should consider all the various drugs and things entering the water supply. And the unknown quantity of endocrine disruptors, hormone mimicers, etc surrounding people all day.

    Remember that 80’s Batman movie? People were mysteriously dying all over Gotham. They suspected poison, but couldn’t find any.

    Then it was discovered the constituent components of poison had been added to a variety of personal care products. When combined on/in a person, it created poison, but no poison was in any of the products.

    Aside from HCFS, drugs in the water supply, disruptors and mimicers in products, it would be difficult to tell if it is a combination of these things that causes a problem. Certainly we know combinations of prescription drugs cause reactions not found when taking each one individually.

    #123041
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Afktt: thank you for the grammar lesson! Most of my grammar know how comes from avid reading, with little formal instruction…I had never thought that one through before! :). (I secretly have enjoyed helping one of my sons with his English grammar worksheets this year for the same reason.)

    #123042
    Germ
    Participant

    The US has finally jumped the shark – Idiocracy !

    #123043
    teri
    Participant

    So Sinema is not a Democrat any more.

    I gather that the people you “elect” can just switch parties part-way through their term in office, because no-one in either party is calling her out on it as a verboten move. If this is the case, why should any of them claim to be members of one party or the other in the first place? Sounds kind of like it ought to make them unfit for office because they are being deliberately deceptive in their nominal party affiliation – and that’s the most basic item on their curriculum vitae. It sounds shiesty.

    What a bunch of assholes they all are.

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