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  • #195601
    those darned kids
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    whoa….

    #195602
    Topcat
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    #195603
    Topcat
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    #195604
    Topcat
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    #195605
    Topcat
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    #195606
    Topcat
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    The Left Woketurds are a mile wide and an inch deep.

    Interesting detail is the number of people losing their jobs because of posted negative media posts against Charlie Kirk. It seems to be gaining momentum. Bad times to lose a job in.

    #195607
    Topcat
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    Tracking data showing the aircraft taking off shortly after the incident at Utah Valley University (about 5 miles from PVU), then illegally disabling its ADS-B transponder (a required system for broadcasting position and altitude) mid-flight, disappearing from radar for roughly 45-60 minutes, before reappearing and returning to Provo.

    “PRIVATE JET DISABLED it’s location monitoring system while departing from Provo Airport (12 minutes from Utah Valley University) one hour after CHARLIE KIRK was ASSASSINATED.”

    Zionist Alert

    The jet is owned by Derek Maxfield, a wealthy donor to the Chabad Lubavitch of Utah

    #195608
    Dr. D
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    Duran. Uses the totally nonexistent, never happening “Bone Crushing Sanctions” which are ludicrous, and impossible to enact in any way, 4 or 5 times in one vlog today. WHILE pointing out we’re normalizing with Belarus. He has Sanctions on the membrane.

    As an aside yesterday, Someone was brushing up their modern Feminism, in order to correctly characterize their position. Paper presented, FEMINISM IS MARXISM. Full stop. She then describes in great detail how this is true, has always been true, and whether Feminism has been Correctly, fully, and Enthusiastically Marxist ENOUGH lately. Her view and others was that their Marxism was being taken over by NeoLiberalism and they needed to return to the 1800s roots of Karl.

    That is the honest, direct, public state of academia, Feminism, Leftism, and the Democrats at a minimum, since many Republican women say they are feminists too.

    She’s not kidding. Not only in that paper, but Wikipedia, all feminism, going back to the 60s could not possibly be more direct and open about it. …But I don’t see what I see. We’re just making it up. It’s not happening, but because it is happening actually and that’s also a good thing. BothNeitherAii.

    Tyler’s plan was to shoot the President’s personal friend and vote-getter, then OpSec post about it onlime and tell each of his friends? Well, I guess when you think you’re on the side of the Angels, no need to hide. No shame.

    “But Mugatu! Where would we ever, EVER find anyone this STUUUUPID???”

    And same [Discord] server as Crooks, so this is recruitment central?

    What a tragedy. And I’m also very mixed about his telling everyone, and everyone RATTING HIM OUT. To the Feds. Well, what can I do? I also wouldn’t think I could justify him in any way. Might find some way to hint instead of ratting though.

    BTW “If you read this U R Gay” Soooo that’s Left code for “You’re awesome and everybody loves you”? Because otherwise, it’s grounds for permaban for life with the Left. No? Not if you murder people too? If you murder then hating gays is a good thing? No, the Left is spinning, saying “He’s an AntiFa Furry, but in a Conservative way” Literal quote. Bella Chao was a Conservative slogan where exactly?

    “Poland to Trump: Russian Drones Were No Mistake On Wednesday, Polish and Dutch fighter jets scrambled to shoot down Russian drones violating Poland’s airspace. Polish police say that fragments of 16 drones have been found across eastern Poland. POLITICO Europe

    Well that’s odd, since officially they were lamenting they only shot down two of them.

    “These ‘Experts’ Once Said Women Couldn’t Play Football. Boy Were They Wrong. Chronicling the lively, groundbreaking, and often maddening history of the National Women’s Football League. Popular Science

    Also not Joust. Nor kill mammoths. The level of Sexism in America is so bad, this is the biggest example they can point to.

    MYX coin? +1126% in 7 days. Solana, top 5 coin? 20% This is common in the end run.

    “Charlie Kirk to lie in state in the U.S. Capitol Rotunda, via Rep. Nancy Mace”

    You have to look at it from their, or America’s point of view: to them this would be putting a Nazi, Heinrick Himmler in State honors.

    ...I don’t care, Margaret. They’ll have to just put on their big boy pants and deal. A lot of it has gotten this far by coddling them on dumb s—t like this. Like even a SECOND of silence to say “this is a big deal that might get every Democrat rounded up and killed.” Don’t want to reflect on that for a second? Even for your own purposes?

    And there is some dumb s—t all around. So this kid was some antifa rando AND was a pro hit by Israel, AND was a hit by Trump, AND was a result of the Left we all need to stop, AND, and and. Is ANY of that true? If you pick one, fine! We all do. …But then the others are excluded from your ensuing conversations and projections. Pick One.

    That goes with Kirk being Total hyper Pro Israel, AND also totally against liability of Israel, such that he was an Israeli asset which is why Israel shot him. Stoooooooooooooooooopppp! I can’t take it anymore! Kirk, like many evangelicals, was raised Pro-Israel, surrounded by them, which says people who Israel = Good and deny everything there. So kids say “Look at the evidence” he then looks from his Silo and says “Not that bad.” Yeah, and? That’s happening to all of us, YOUR internet feed is entirely different than MY internet feed: both are fabricated exclusively to propagandize us, personally, on our personal weaknesses.

    BUT: Like others on the Right, probably everyone here as well, including Aspnaz, AT SOME POINT he started to go, “Heyyyyyy: something’s gone wrong here.” How bad is it? I dunno, I’m busy. How fast should I convert on it? I don’t know, I’m busy. But Kirk was DEFINITELY reversing his Israel-Gaza stance, like many of us, on the well-worn path, and was perhaps 1/3rd of the way along, while also doing in in public.

    Like Shapiro, ALL his backers will then abandon him, cut his funding, stop the protection they are running for him and Shapiro, and turn him into Alex Jones – another well-worn path. Yet he was doing it anyway. And now we don’t know what would have happened.

    What is with constantly and ONLY 2-Dimensional-ing everyone? You’re constantly wrong, and in the same paragraph – Kirk worked for Israel and was also shot by Israel, where the kid had no relation to Israel – are contradicting yourself in the same thought out of sheer laziness?

    I’m fine with saying Trump did it or Israel did it, but they can’t be Opposites, and you have to provide SOMETHING other than fee-fees, to point at.

    Like everyone else, he was in the middle of things, was right on some, wrong on others, looking for the truth he didn’t have, and evolving his opinions. But in this other world Batman is always Batman and the Joker is always the Joker. They have no reality, and no evolution, no humanity, they are cartoon characters, locked in amber.

    Insert Clip on Kirk directly saying, to all 6 Billion humans, that Oct 7 could only be a scam. Huh. Weird. That’s how we know he is only a Israeli agent. A slavish Zionist, just as ALL Evangelicals are EXACTLY the same. For people who’ve never even been to the U.S. and met one.

    All evangelicals are completely DIFFERENT, that’s why they have 10,000 churches and split up another new one every day. They also are MORE able to change their views on everything than even normies, who don’t engage and Leftists, who stick to the Narrative, or Catholics, who stand on Tradition. I mean: obviously.

    And that means if there are any No-Zion Christians (and there are many) then they will be from this zone and not the Legacy Media/Big Box Church/Catholic branch. That suggests – just by using your common sense – that they are modestly MORE anti-Israel than the norm. But because they are splitters, you couldn’t even define what they are as a group.

    Translation: it’s not the 1950s here, bub. Hasn’t been since [checks notes] 1950.

    Very concerned about the 911 reaction, to go out and round up Leftists in the streets, which is no doubt the (Let’s save our Euro bond markets) “Plan.” ALL of these such eulogies have been very reassuring, that BECAUSE Kirk was a Christian, they choose their response based on Christian values. Of tolerance, forgiveness, forbearance, free speech, and conversion. They honestly COULD call for a social/religious purge, and COULD probably have gotten one. They have the guns, they have the President, they have the justification, the flash point, the cause.

    THEY DID NOT DO SO. Past-tense, the direction, the response, “Who am I?” has been chosen. With like O’Keefe, Mrs. Kirk, others. We are NOT going to murder everyone of — ethnic/social group named here – the way Aspnaz desires. We’re not going to shoot anyone who pisses us off like CitizenX. So that’s BECAUSE it was this martyr, this blood sacrifice. To honor HIS values, we then…stop free speech, f– Christianity, refuse to talk to College Leftists, do no outreach and give up on persuasion? No!

    And you see how that would have been different if, say, Trump died. Avenging him and following, picking up HIS war and methods would have been different. You really REALLY can’t do that in Kirk’s name.

    And no one is. They lost. Hail Mary mother of God.

    “you have no idea. You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country and this world. You have no idea. You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife. To everyone listening tonight across America, the movement my husband built will not die.”

    And then clearly they HELPED it lose, they MADE it lose, whether intentional (Hit) or incidental (Left Media), Evil always bites itself in the ass. Why? Evil is DIVISION, by definition. Separation from #Logos, reason, God. So by definition it MUST fight, work at counter purposes to itself, and collapse. Right here it did. It told the Left to kill everyone, then gloat about it in public. The public saw this and is now like, “Uhhhhhhhhh!” We didn’t sign up for this!

    You didn’t sign up for murdering everyone after saying for the greater good you should murder everyone? Okay pal! …But that’s true. They have to FACE it directly, out of abstraction, get shot back at, get punched in the mouth so it’s not a “Joke” anymore. It becomes a reality. Choosing THIS reality and this particular victim was especially bad for them.

    “saying there was “ample proof that many are supported by our enemies and by their puppet masters in Russia or elsewhere..”

    Ample proof they cannot show. Just like Trump is totally pro-Ukraine, while cutting off weapons immediately (Public) and cutting off the rest of the hidden weapons (Galloway yesterday, private). Yup. And he BOTH a Putin puppet for doing that (that is at least a plausible logic) AND also is totally double-crossing pro-Ukraine Anti-Russian globalist!

    FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST CAN YOU PICK ONE? And I don’t care which, they’re both stupid. I can discuss either. But it can’t be both.

    “• Trump Warns His Patience With Putin Is “Running Out Fast” (ZH)

    Blah blah blah. Yeah Donald needs and has arranged with Russia years ago on this, and he needs it to happen fast for real domestic and financial reasons. Putin doesn’t care. Putin and Russia will do what they do in service of Russia, as they well should, they don’t care if America takes a minor hit over the timing. Russia takes a new town a day though. It’s just not reported. It’s a type of “Frozen conflict” by omission. They could be at Kiev last week which is probably what’s pissing Trump off, IDK.

    ““hitting [Russia] very hard with sanctions to banks and having to do with oil and tariffs also.”

    Wow, we should totally try that! Why has no one done this?

    “As Zelensky Rules Out Giving Up The East..”

    Part of the only negotiation – and I think they’re way too generous – is to legally recognize all gains as Russia in international law and treaty. Personally I wouldn’t even consider it. But I understand why they would, leaving the REST – which is a ton – to further negotiations. Like NATO, but nato from Poland to Lviv, with Lviv to the Dneipr being Neutral.

    Point is: Ze can’t even do THIS. Not only not do it, he can’t even lie, pretend, and speak it. Great then, actually! Russia just takes it all when you collapse. “You” being NATO now, all of Europe.

    • US Isn’t Seeking Confrontation With China – Pentagon (RT)

    Finally admitting the logic all along. Another Docktor “W”. They were pretending they were pivoting to Asia as an excuse to Europe. “You have to hold down the fort and conquer Russia here because we need all our missiles to invade the Chinese mainland from Taiwan”. Europe never bought it, because we are supposed to fight BOTH while they drink champers in the Riviera, so what’s the point of maintaining the lie?

    We have no Naval ships, OBVIOUSLY we are not attacking the Pacific. Sells better with the American people who said WTF to all that, so they are officially departing the lie that we were.

    “• Silver Explosion Kills Babylon’s Financial System – Bo Polny

    Unfortunately Bo has been right 1 in 30 times. When he’s right it’s spectacular, but you can’t be wrong that much and also hasn’t been right on a single big call in five years? You’d have lost every dollar by now. I did, because I would have been deeper in Crypto and made 2x as much by having that leverage. Not Bo, but trusting other bad commentators with a limited record were the catalyst for me to do that.

    But going back, did it not SEEM like we’d have a financial trap? Like Tesla should go up 50% from being 100x overvalued? Yeah, I didn’t think so either.

    On the Immediate, discredit him when it doesn’t “Just go through $50” which it won’t, being a many decades high. It may LATER, but it will react at $50 first. Why? Look at market: it runs on Tech now, not money. We’re possible tech recession on use case. Then cost-of-production is $25. That’s too low, but are we talking $600 here? What’s a fair profit on $25 supply? $50 is possible, but Chart would say $70? Cup-Handle maybe $150? What’s the long-term oil price? 1960 1 gal/ 3 silver dimes. Let’s say 1/3 oz = $13/gal at $25. So for that, silver is already overvalued. That’s inflation, was 20x, is maybe approaching 30x pre inflation era 1770-1970. 1 Silver dollar would buy $20 bill in a Western Saloon. Right. Now buys $40? That already seems on the high/normal side.

    Short-term prices go anywhere as Tesla shows, but this is the underlying reality the market has long since discarded.

    Okay, what WILL happen? Other items: they’ve so battered the market, unrelated to any reality, even the Miners are dead. Unlike usual, there are no instant pop-up major silver miners hanging around, the way you can just plant a field with corn next year. Same reason: suppression, rigging, all illegal and anti-Capitalist, all run by insider governments, that there are no silver stockpiles above ground, possibly not even in India. (there is enormous supply there but is all small and PRIVATE). So IF you break the market and get a run, you CAN get a run from $150→$600 just like we did in 1980. That was like a 25-banger. So starting at $4 seems low, that’s $100 but was way too far in the past. Maybe. Let’s say it’s $10 or $12. Yes, then $250 – $300. And tagging that price intra-month only. Very short. Crypto can do that in a week and stay there.

    “• America’s Grid is Nearing Its Breaking Point (Robert Rapier)

    Silver. And they’re putting in Datacenters? Hahahahhahaha! Okay, this is all a scam, what are you REALLY going to do? You have zero-point generators in the closet, don’t you?

    #195609
    Topcat
    Participant

    Charlie Kirk spoke about the perversion of the culture

    #195610
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Topcat: yes I want to talk to him. AND all those hand signal “Shoot me, cops” guys.

    Just because he IS a liberal kid from a conservative law-enforcement family means nothing. Go look.

    #195611
    those darned kids
    Participant

    jeepers, the wheels are coming of the bus quite acceleratedly now

    #195612
    Topcat
    Participant

    Private jets illegally disabling their ADS-B transponders probably happens all the time.

    It’s still illegal.

    Was Derek Maxfield delivering drugs to a customer?

    Was he delivering trafficked children for ritual blood sacrifice and andochrome extraction?

    Trump could pick up the phone to his FAA Commander and demand Derek be brought to him in manacles to man-plains why his jet illegally disabled its ADS-B transponder, but he won’t.

    Let’s look at the possible reasons shall we……

    #1 Trump doesn’t know about the wide spread practice of transponders being routinely turned off in private jet to hide illegal activity. He has very little curiosity about anything outside the present moment. Be Here Now.

    #2 Trump did this routinely in his own jets as a private citizen to conceal his location for whatever reason

    #3 Derek Maxfield was probably a big campaign contributor and he does want to upset The Tribe After all, ‘They call the Shots’.

    Gates, Soros, etc they all turn off their private jet transponders.

    Maybe their transponders are transgender transponders and don’t want to be discriminated against.

    #195613
    those darned kids
    Participant

    the transponders*,
    more than meets the law.

    the transponders,
    airplanes in disguise.

    autocrats wage their battles
    to destroy the kindest forces of the
    disappointedcons.

    the tranponders,
    “¡catch me if you can!”

    the transponders,
    [insert cool trumpet fall-off]

    *©2025, Hasbararo, No Liability, No See

    #195614
    zerosum
    Participant

    WAR ON MONEY

    What It Really Means to Be a Trust Fund Baby: Understanding Inherited Wealth


    What It Really Means to Be a Trust Fund Baby: Understanding Inherited Wealth

    So while the phrase “trust fund baby” might sound like a punchline, it’s really just shorthand for someone born into a financial safety net. Whether they squander it or thrive often depends on values, education, and personal drive.

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    • US To Press G7 On Seizing Frozen Russian Assets – Bloomberg (RT)

    The US will press its G7 allies to establish a legal framework for seizing frozen Russian state assets and channeling them to Ukraine,
    Bloomberg has reported, citing sources. Western nations froze an estimated $300 billion in Russian assets following the escalation of the Ukraine conflict in 2022, some €200 billion of which are held by Brussels-based clearinghouse Euroclear.
    The funds have generated billions in interest, and the West has been exploring ways to use the revenue to finance Ukraine. While refraining from outright seizure, the G7 last year backed a plan to provide Kiev with $50 billion in loans to be repaid using the profits.
    The EU pledged $21 billion. According to a proposal seen by the outlet, Washington will urge the G7 to back measures enabling the outright confiscation of the frozen reserves for transfer to Kiev.

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    • EU Could Target ‘Russian SWIFT’ – Euractiv (RT)

    As of early 2025, 177 foreign entities across 24 countries were connected to SPFS, according to the Russian central bank. Moscow has accelerated efforts to move away from SWIFT by trading with international partners in their national currencies – a trend increasingly supported by BRICS members, which have shifted from using the dollar and euro in trade settlements.
    Russia has long denounced Western sanctions as illegal, repeatedly noting that they have failed to achieve their ultimate goal of destabilizing the economy and isolating the country from the global financial system.
    Instead, Moscow argues, they have backfired on the states that imposed them.

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    • Russia and China Planning Clearinghouse To Avoid West – Moscow+(RT)

    Russia and China are working to set up a securities depository to rival Belgium-based Euroclear and Clearstream, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov has said. In an interview with Izvestia published on Thursday, Siluanov said it is important to build “an independent payment infrastructure” in response to Western sanctions.
    Russian investors previously held funds at European clearing houses through Russia’s National Settlement Depository (NSD).
    Euroclear and Clearstream stopped transactions with NSD and froze its accounts after sanctions were imposed against it in mid-2022, preventing investors from accessing their assets.

    The Bank of Russia has estimated that around 5.7 trillion rubles ($66.8 billion) remains blocked.
    Siluanov said the role of a new depository would be assumed by a planned Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) Development Bank, which would enable Russians to invest in foreign assets and foreign investors to finance projects in Russia.
    “We would like this bank – perhaps on its basis, or by itself – to create opportunities for our investors in our countries to freely buy and sell securities in any countries.
    In other words, to perform such an independent depository function,” the finance minister explained.

    The SCO could allow seamless securities trading among member states that join the agreement.
    Russian investors are also pursuing legal action at home.
    In August, the Moscow Arbitration Court accepted a lawsuit brought by a group of private investors against Belgium’s Treasury and Euroclear.
    The investors are seeking licenses from the Belgian authorities to unlock their assets, arguing that the actions of the Belgian Treasury and Euroclear are unlawful and discriminatory.
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    • Trump Pledges Investigation Into Soros (RT)

    US President Donald Trump has said that his administration will be probing George Soros over his alleged funding of mass “riots” in the US.
    The Hungarian-American billionaire investor and NGOs funded by his Open Society Foundations (OSF) have long been linked to various protest movements, both in the US and abroad.
    “They have professional agitators…
    They get paid for their profession from Soros and other people,” Trump said in an interview with Fox & Friends on Friday. “We’re going to look into Soros because I think it’s a RICO case against him and other people,” he added. “This is more than protests: This is real agitation.
    This is riots on the street, and we’re gonna look into that,” Trump said.

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    • How the EU Pays Mainstream Media to Promote Its Narratives (Williams)

    The unelected leadership of the evidently corrupt European Union (EU) is now paying mainstream media to promote the agendas of its EU “elites.”
    The EU appears to have spent as much as 1 billion euros during the past decade alone in the process, according to a recent report,
    “Brussels’s media machine: European media funding and the shaping of public discourse,” by Thomas Fazi, from the European think tank MCC Brussels.
    Framing the projects as “fighting disinformation” and “promoting European integration” the EU has been throwing taxpayer money, conservatively estimated at €80 million annually, to “media projects” — not including indirect funding, such as advertising contracts.
    The report also shows that the EU runs a highly sophisticated “EU media complex” through which it gets to shape media narratives about itself and its agendas.
    According to Fazi’s report:
    https://www.thomasfazi.com/

    https://brussels.mcc.hu/uploads/default/0001/01/10af81f9f28a04dbcb2e9fb98bf28a7c9f16a07a.pdf
    Brussels’s media machine
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    #195615
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    those_darned_kids said:

      whoa….

    those_darned_kids said:

      jeepers, the wheels are coming of the bus quite acceleratedly now

    Come on tdk!
    Tell me what you see!
    Just me, not them.

    Stop being so cryptic

    #195616
    Dr D Rich
    Participant
      Unctuous

      excessively flattering or ingratiating; oily:

    There is one thing about ingratiating. It works
    Oily accompanied by slithery and Slippery.

    #195617
    kultsommer
    Participant

    America’s power grid is straining under the weight of a fast-changing energy landscape.

    Bit Coin is the future.

    Bo Polny.
    Trying to imagine the mind where “silver and gold” reside, wrapped in a pages of the Bible.

    #195618
    Dora
    Participant

    From The Grayzone:

    Charlie Kirk refused Netanyahu funding offer, was ‘frightened’ by pro-Israel forces before death, friend reveals


    “A Trump insider and longtime friend of Charlie Kirk tells The Grayzone how the assassinated conservative leader’s turning point on Israeli influence provoked a private backlash from Netanyahu’s allies that left him angry and afraid.
    The source said anxiety spread within the Trump administration after an apparent Israeli spying operation was uncovered.
    Charlie Kirk rejected an offer earlier this year from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to arrange a massive new infusion of Zionist money into his Turning Point USA (TPUSA) organization, America’s largest conservative youth association, according to a longtime friend of the slain commentator speaking on the condition of anonymity. The source told The Grayzone that the late pro-Trump influencer believed Netanyahu was trying to cow him into silence as he began to publicly question Israel’s overwhelming influence in Washington and demanded more space to criticize it.

    In the weeks leading up to his September 10 assassination, Kirk had come to loathe the Israeli leader, regarding him as a “bully,” the source said. Kirk was disgusted by what he witnessed inside the Trump administration, where Netanyahu sought to personally dictate the president’s personnel decisions, and weaponized Israeli assets like billionaire donor Miriam Adelson to keep the White House firmly under its thumb.
    According to Kirk’s friend, who also enjoyed access to President Donald Trump and his inner circle, Kirk strongly warned Trump last June against bombing Iran on Israel’s behalf. “Charlie was the only person who did that,” they said, recalling how Trump “barked at him” in response and angrily shut down the conversation. The source believes the incident confirmed in Kirk’s mind that the president of the United States had fallen under the control of a malign foreign power, and was leading his own country into a series of disastrous conflicts.

    By the following month, Kirk had become the target of a sustained private campaign of intimidation and free-floating fury by wealthy and powerful allies of Netanyahu – figures he described in an interview as Jewish “leaders” and “stakeholders.”

    “He was afraid of them,” the source emphasized. “

    #195619
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Michael “not miker” Tracey just so you know to go bitch at him for being prescient on The Lying in State Rotunda Thing.

      “By the way, for anyone who might have wanted to instantly assume that Charlie Kirk must’ve been killed by Israel for some bizarre reason, here’s a Fox News clip today of Benjamin Netanyahu paying tribute to Charlie as an “extraordinary friend.” According to Netanyahu, in May of this year, Charlie sent him a letter proclaiming “One of my greatest joys as a Christian is advocating for Israel.” How heart-warming.”

      “Republican Party apparatchik”

    Btw, it can be both, you know, Bibi being so unusually Unctuous and Fawning over Chuck Kirk BEFORE the Assassination AND Israelis behind Charlie’s Change of Heart…

    https://www.mtracey.net/p/charlie-kirk-killing

    #195620
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Here’s an alternate theory for a Kirk/Israel intersection. I’ll temporarily suspend disbelief while I flesh it out.

    The 2024 election went through like all the battles had been fought and won already. Amazingly smooth. Since the people in charge – or various factions in charge – stay hidden, it’s ridiculously optimistic for a call center representative to take a guess at the world’s subterranean cause and effect.

    That said, Israel seems to be an entity capable of blocking The Blob from interfering in the election. Considering how deeply rooted its tendrils in the US must be, surely its copies of the Epstein files, its ruthless intelligence services? And its services would be desirable, given that the US intelligence and security services are riddled with quislings who hate you.

    So previous to that, the left, going on like a zombie apocalypse, does what it always does, keeps looking for things to meatsuit to “Capture the energy.” Gaza is a very powerful, energetic issue.

    So the left decided to capture it like everything else. Suddenly gay-trans-palestinian banners everywhere, useful idiots explaining the answer to Gaza is moar socialism, and so on.

    Given the past 10 years, I think a LOT of people, seeing a leftist meatsuitnig taking place, are OUT. They are NOT going to lend their energy to a killer zombie corpse possessed by cutting edge academic marxism.

    So leftists who INTENDED TO “spread out into the crowd. be demonstrative and loud. use the crowd to look like you ARE the crowd” …became the crowd. Standing there holding the bag.

    What energy did they capture? Enemy of Israel.

    Yeah, I want to cut off all aid and let them figure shit out for themselves, which will be fairly horrific, but will make them go sane again. But I am absolutely hands off on a leftist takeover. Take Enemy Of Israel, it’s yours. Have fun with that.

    So maybe the election was a first big lesson.

    Kirk was a very good asset for MAGA and Republicans. Not a good sacrifice piece.

    IF there was an Israeli hit on him, then it was a super effective choice. A PERFECT blow right where the left wants it least. I DON’T CARE, after the past 10 years, whether THIS specific thing cannot be pinned on leftists. For the first time, DONE caring about being virtuously civilized and western liberal. Because the recipients of the blame are NOT fellow countrymen, kin.

    They are aliens, outsiders, and the virtues of my culture are for MY people, not for burning, pillaging, raping barbarians. I am FINE now with this being in their laps forever. It’s entirely appropriate, after everything they didn’t catch hell for, for the past 10, the past 70 years. Because we treated them as OUR people we had a disagreement with, while they sneered and continued to be bad faith aliens.

    (…who have, for years, continuously required of their enemies, a perfectly saintly and vulcan adherence to perfect, without-a-doubt justice AND mercy AND sympathy while perfectly ignoring context, track record, and everything else, for the sake of maintaining virtue – after all, if you were even the least smidgeon off, then ah-HA you’re the bad guy…)

    Sorry you picked that fight bro, thinking you were clever, because using One Weird Trick over and over – taking all advantage of civility – made you feel like a god. But Israel isn’t your people – maybe you didn’t notice. Like if you’ve got a family that loves you and tolerates your shit, but then you try the SAME thing in a mob den. Have fun, assholes. Couldn’t have happened to a better bunch. Who knows what else you’ll get.

    #195621
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Hope.

    #195622
    Just Some Randomer
    Participant

    A reported (depending on who’s saying it, the numbers are often over/understated, but it looks like a LOT of people from the images) one million people have paraded through London in a protest against mass migration. The front page of the Telegraph, one of main broadsheet papers in Britain, has a small article about it, below the soccer news and an article about the takeover of a dying retailer entitled ‘Tommy Robinson protestors attack police’.

    Sounds like fair and balanced reporting in the Starmtrooper’s Britain.

    #195623
    jb-hb
    Participant

    In the UK, they’re arresting their own people for liking bacon, silently praying, and calling someone a muppet.

    And they’re arresting foreigners for free speech they exercised in another country where free speech is still legal. (That’ some Dredd Scott shit right there. And 1812. Don’t know why Trump doesn’t take the Iowa battleships out of mothballs to bombard the British coast until they release our citizen in John Paul Jones [original not Led Zeppelin] style. Why not, it’d be fun) I forget, something about not wanting men in womens’ bathrooms.

    I saw a comedy youtube about home invasions in US vs UK. The UK criminal gets away and the police arrest the homeowner for not having a TV license.

    In the comments, someone joked “It would be funnier if they arrested the homeowner for calling the police about a migrant”

    the reply from a UK native – “Oh no, that has actually happened. They arrested a homeowner for calling the police about a break-in by a muslim migrant.”

    Which was pretty much the case with everything – americans joking how the skit could have been more surreal, English piping up to say no actually, that too already happened.

    I murmured after dinner, looking at the latest news from UK – holy cow the UK IS actually pretty fucked up right now. Normie wife – I heard those were just right wing conspiracy theories and everything is fine.

    #195624
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Or actually, instead of Iowa battleships bombarding the coast, we attack their most precious assets. Sub launched Tomahawks will continue to rain down on your precious migrant hotels with pinpoint accuracy until you release our citizen. (this is fictional humor and I don’t have any #%%#ing Tomahawk missiles you stupid 3 letter agencies…)

    If the target were something unimportant to Yoookay authorities like St Paul’s Cathdral, they’d keep a stiff upper lip, but with it being the hotels, they’d gasp at the shocking inhumanity and hand over their prisoner.

    #195625

    The Graud has a drone video of the crowd in London. Wow.

    #195626
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #195627
    Michael Reid
    Participant
    #195628
    those darned kids
    Participant

    Israelis behind Charlie’s Change of Neck…

    #195629
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    It never gets old.

    miker and his/her handler D will appreciate the video format no doubt since Danny Haiphong and Pedo W.S. Ritter probably read the book.

      “…impossible to detect reality accurately…”

    Let’s give a big hand for The Big Loba who spelled it out so succinctly.

      Take heed!

    Can you see Chuck and Don and Barackee and Bill Ritter and Fauci and The Emotive One Rockin’ Rochelle Walensky NOW?
    All share the same traits and qualities that impress, nope, mobilize the putamen, thalamus and hypothalamus of locals like D, miker.

    Who picks these people?
    Toss in Dave Tam, Jevin Amick and Randy Morey.

    Not even D or miker voted for these folks or got paid on The Selection Committee

    #195630
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Here’s the thing. I don’t care, Margaret.

    #195631
    jb-hb
    Participant

    On second thought, I’ll be NOT a coward and NOT a bad faith actor by actually engaging and explaining rather than being equally cryptic. I’ll NOT just fling cryptic poo.

    Take the incident of a couple weeks ago. That woman that was being insufferable and trespassing – for the purpose OF being insufferable, disrupting business, etc. (I’m an AG! I’m an AG!)

    When the police officer showed up, she turned on something akin to a riot firehose or an MG42 of words. From her tone, how she carried herself, etc, she was clearly an expert, had used this technique many times, and was very confident it its utility based on past performance. With a sneer to the police officer, expecting it to level him.

    It was a melange of stuff – claims of authority, moral superiority, expert knowledge, specific “rules” that didn’t exist, etc.

    EACH one of these was to throw the person back on themselves, freeze them by giving her their consideration. Frozen by their own moral compulsion — why are you not considering this woman’s words, her feelings, her ideas, the concepts she is imparting? Don’t you CARE? Aren’t you FAIR? Wouldn’t only a big meanie NOT LISTEN? Aren’t you totally unable to move forward in any way unless you reach UNDERSTANDING? Did you stop EVERYTHING, verify beyond any shadow of a doubt, one by one, that each of her assertions was 100% wrong, or are you UNFAIR?

    So the firehose of words was not communication, but a chunk of STUFF intended to lodge itself in the other person’s mental machinery and disable them. A cognitohazard or neverending firehose of multiple cognitohazards.

    Gee, I’m a very thoughtful introvert – the dumbest one could be and still be a genius, but a genius nontheless. I’ve been working very hard with not the worst mental machinery at GIVING CONSIDERATION and accepting being thrown back on myself ALL MY LIFE. As a way of avoiding being immoral, as a way of making sure I am doing right. Oh no, oh no, did I not give you proper CONSIDERATION?

    And after the recent political assassination, a LOT of people are done with the firehose. Oh thanks so much for trying to jam a block of Andrzej Łobaczewski in my craw and, in my earnest bewilderment trying to understand wtf you could specifically mean and thinking you were a fellow good faith actor, and in my earnestness, oh he’s using code words for people, could it be me, should I respond? To what accusation, how? I have offended him? I must choke on Andrzej Łobaczewski to discover and avoid being a big meanie – don’t I want to be FAIR?

    So I can just shove the most abstruse philosophy down YOUR throat, I can pick the most difficult Kant, in German, reference it with oblique reference to you, just pick a nickname and keep repeating it day after day, and you’ll HAVE to wade through it to discover my point (or maybe I had no point, wade through it to discover!), to not be horrible, to be FAIR, right? I can do that to you too? If you aren’t trying to solve my riddle – because not plainly stating my case when I want to make it is mutherfucking genius, brilliance beyond your conception – then you’re the baddie.

    Like, anytime you want to discuss something with me, I’ve got a code word that forces you to stop discusing, grab a rag and start scrubbing the floor on your hands and knees in front of me like cinderella? This is how engagement works, does it?

    After the assassination, I think a LOT of people are not only re-evaluating the current state of things, the past 10 years, but probably the past 70 years in a new light. And I think they are done with dancing to cognitohazards.

    #195632
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    …..and, of course, everyone’s favorite 3 year old JD James Donald Hamel Bowman Blanton Hamel Vance spouting off The Terrible Three Year Old’s favorite tantrum.

      “I don’t care”

    Two Big Heads

    Smart ppl have this default position of claiming ignorance or suddenly not understanding, but wielding it as a weapon against the opposition. That’s a gift.
    Contact a recruiter ASAP.
    There’s a whole Department of the US GOV’T devoted to this technique.
    You know that too.

    #195633
    those darned kids
    Participant

    i care.

    #195634
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “i’m talking my nuclear football and going home!”

    p.s. peter thiel did it. mr kirk was an ascending threat to presidente vance.

    all for naught, though.

    AOC is in in ’28. hahahahahahahahahaha, lord please make it so.

    we’ve been bad, and we need castigation!

    #195635
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #195636
    jb-hb
    Participant

    “i care.”

    allow me to introduce you to your new life partner. Be sure to always be attentive and give full consideration – don’t contradict her until you’ve really, really checked and have verified 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt.

    Pro tip – be sure to always white knight for her and interject an “I’m here baby, I’m here” whenever possible.

    And have a good life.

    #195637
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Dr D Rich

    I have talked with MANY customers who could not or would not state the reason for their call, but would simply add more things or be even more vague.

    You can always tell the normal people – and even the normal jerks, I adore for being normal – because if you said “What’s your point?” They’d say – disrespectfully, angrily, whatever – “My POINT is….” and actually say it.

    The other type would gloat -ooo hoo hooo, didn’t you GUESS? Didn’t you figure it OUT?

    I dined in hell on this shit for 5 years straight fielding 5th level escalations from the 5-times distilled difficult-to-please customer base.

    yaw-fucking-awn, Dr D Rich.

    #195638
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    p.s. peter thiel did it. mr kirk was an ascending threat to presidente vance.

    I guess you missed what I wrote earlier.

    Paraphrasing me, self-referential always.

    Charlie Kirk possessed something JD Vance BLANTON Bowman Blanton will never have, an appeal to young people, even a small number.

    The word that comes my mind any time JD James Donald Bowman BLANTON Vance Hamel emerges IS:

      execrable

    Is that even a word? spelling? definition?

    D?
    miker?
    tdk?
    What say y’all?

    #195639
    John Day
    Participant

    Trump Backs Off Promise To Sanction Russia, Issues Ultimatum To NATO https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/trump-backs-promise-sanction-russia-issues-ultimatum-nato

    #195640
    John Day
    Participant

    Trump Backs Off Promise To Sanction Russia, Issues Ultimatum To NATO https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/trump-backs-promise-sanction-russia-issues-ultimatum-nato

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