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    DPC North approach, Pedro Miguel Lock, Panama Canal 1915 And on the Seventh Day, God sold his shares? What do you think, is He short the market? Short
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    #17347
    Variable81
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    I did not come to ask you to stay all night
    Or to find out if you’ve seen the light
    I did not come to make a fuss or pick a fight
    I just want you to tell me if you think you can
    Baby, can you dig your man?
    Dig him, baby
    Baby, can you dig your man?

    #17348
    Birdshak
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    We milked the cows twice today. Chances are, we’ll milk them twice tomorrow and the next day, right on through the seventh day, then just keep going. Whatever the deity and the central banker hold in store for us, best they keep their titties hid, or we’ll milk them, too.

    #17349
    Tulsatime
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    I don’t go for any of the attributions to god, but it does seem logical that this is all part of the ‘natural’ process. Perhaps it has been repeated millions of times across the galaxy, a jump in the abilites of the dominant species that leads to a laying waste of the very environment that brought them forth. In a smaller scale we have seen the pattern before, and the money part is just a marker for a more advanced civilization?

    #17350
    Golden Oxen
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    “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

    #17351
    jal
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    Price of oil fell $40.00 a barrel
    They are still producing and selling.
    They sure milked us for long time at $100.00+

    #17353
    TheTrivium4TW
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    Hi Ilargi,
    What makes you think the oligarchs aren’t controlling oil now?
    Also, you recently said that when this system goes under, it will take out the top of the pyramid, too. Actually, the system collapses right into their hands. As Nicole said in A Tribute To The Automatic Earth, “why should the bankers GET IT ALL?”
    Ultimately, though, they will destroy themselves, but I don’t think collapsing the system under their control will do it. Rather, collapsing the system under their control WON’T BE ENOUGH, and eventually, MOAR will catch up and destroy them.
    If one doesn’t recognize that the Federal Reserve, JP Morgan, Citibank, Walmart, Haliburton, CNN, Fox, PBS, allopathic medical school, public education, Krugman, Obama, Bush, yea everything establishment, are all pieces on one side of Brzezinski’s The Grand Chessboard with the Debt Money Monopoly as the Grand Chess Master, one has NO CHANCE at comprehending what is occurring around them on a daily basis…
    No one piece exerts overwhelming CONTROL, but taken as a group… meet Mr. Wizard behind the corporate curtain.

    #17367
    Mike Twain
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    In America it has always been our God given right to ride around in cars.
    When the snowstorm from Hades hit a few weeks ago, the Buffalo Bills offered $10 an hour and free tickets to all who would come and shovel snow….they cancelled the game after seeing the turnout.
    The reality of all this is that the only weapon the ‘little guy’ has is to stop spending. Maybe us ‘stoopid’ people are starting to figure this out. The solution to all the government and corporate con games is to stay home and watch the show.
    Any economy based on how much stuff people buy is headed for saturation. As Charles Payne said on Varney & Co. the other day, he owns nine televisions….wtf? Read Robert Prechter’s story about being paid in Jaguar sedans.
    This is a bad time to be in debt and motivated by spending. Us old-timers don’t care about zero interest or inflation and deflation. Our new motto is: ‘Keep your head down and your mouth shut’. The cops aren’t after black people, they are after assets. The king’s tax collectors are on the prowl. Don’t see Geraldo or O’Reilly talking about that do you?

    #17368
    Dr. Diablo
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    I have to strenuously disagree. Lower prices are a GOOD thing. They are an especially good thing for the common man. This is why we attempt to make things, like telephones, ever cheaper and better so ever-more can afford them. This is exactly the same for oil, only more so as it’s a basic input.

    Price–in general here, and in theory–is simplistically a numeric measure of energy input. Do more harder stuff and the price rises. More steps, more people involved who need to eat, more time eating while coming up with that genius invention, all that. But oil is a basic energy input, like sunlight on a wheat field, lower that (accounting for EIEIO), and prices everywhere drop. This is a GOOD thing.

    Even looking at it from GDP standpoint, (where less $ in oil = lower GDP measured in dollar terms, although the same wheels are turning) you would simply be TRANSFERRING the $ spent from the oil patch to retail sales (for example). That’s why they call low oil prices a de facto tax rebate. The same dollars are spent, because–let’s get real here–the whole POINT of money is to buy things with it. Excluding some sudden penchant for savings, ALL money is spent. They also spend it on tools to make widgets, or on the widgets themselves, but again, to be real, the point of updating your widget machine is to have more, cheaper widgets to use. In that way, we talk about how awful the U.S. is in having 70% consumer spending, not business investment, but ultimately ALL investment is created exclusively and only to make end-products. Point being, lower oil prices is only a SHIFT of focus, of attention, of energy, AWAY from oil and into everything else. In theory, the net GDP stays the same (or even increases, as above)

    That said, okay, I understand that the oil patch is ultra-leveraged and sudden re-contact with economic reality will damage the financial markets. Damaging financial markets can hurt the real (leveraged) economy. It will lower (or shift) tax revenues, and it will be disruptive to the physical economy, including the job market, as all those assets slosh from one side of the ship to the other like a loose cannon on the deck. Yes. That part bad.

    Nevertheless, isn’t returning to economic reality a GOOD thing? Doesn’t economic health come from accurately measuring and deploying limited resources? So isn’t the popping of any bubble the first essential step toward health? Of course it is. The only bad part of this is that the bubble mis-deployed resources in the first place. That is the part that causes the present–and temporary–disruption. Which is precisely why you don’t want bubbles, nor the easy money that encourages them.

    But leaving illusion and returning to economic reality leaves you more likely to efficiently deploy whatever remains. The short-term adjustment is disruptive, yes. And to real human lives and fortunes. Which is why it should be a firm lesson against easy money ever after. But long-term the end of bubbles is the return to health, and that’s as true in the oil sector as anywhere else.

    Oil prices crashing and low? Net GOOD thing, not bad.

    It cannot be bad for oil prices to both rise AND fall. …Unless you want to retract all your essays on why a high price was bad? I didn’t think so.

    #17371
    Ken Barrows
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    jal,
    Are you saying Bakken oil is positive cash flow (or even close) at current prices? If you are, I want to see some data.

    #17378
    Golden Oxen
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    Dr Diablo, agreed if this were indeed a drop in oil caused by market factors. Quite another, if it is as many think, a ploy by the Saudi’s to put our fracking industry out of business, and then subsequently harm us more at a later date. I don’t know which but assume it is most likely a mixture of both.

    As far as TAE goes, while I do not know her current stance, Nicole predicted this very crack in oil prices a while back, and also predicted there would be very bad consequences from it a bit further down the road.

    It may be much too early to consider this a good thing in my view, but I certainly understand your positive sentiment towards it, especially where I own a car, and my New England home is heated with oil.

    As for the financial sector, if this crack in oil is the black swan that bursts the bond bubble, your assertion that it is a bad is much too gentle a description; one can only shudder when they think of the leverage and shenanigans going on out there with the Wall St and Bankster clan that a steep rise in interest rates would put an abrupt end to, a calamitous ending for sure.

    #17387
    Goner Pyle
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    Ilargi asked, “Who was it again that said nature invented man only to get rid of a carbon imbalance on the planet…?” One man who said it was David Price of Cornell back in 1999 in an article which can be found here: https://peakoilbarrel.com/energy-human-evolution-2/
    This ties in perfectly with Tulsatime’s astute statement above: “Perhaps it has been repeated millions of times across the galaxy…”
    This viewpoint was explored in ancient Hindu mythology with great acuity. For those interested I refer you to “The Parade of Ants” found in Heinrich Zimmer’s book Myths and Symbols In Indian Art And Civilization, Chapter One, Eternity And Time
    For those with ears to hear, let them hear. As for the rest…well, they’re our fellow hominids, so I won’t be too derisive. However, since adolescence I have found our species quite loathsome. A hominid with consciousness? Laughable!

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