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August 17, 2025 at 10:26 am #194040
Raúl Ilargi Meijer
KeymasterEdward Hopper Night in the park 1921 • Putin & Trump Rewrite the Rules of Great Power Politics in Alaska (Sp.) • Trump-Zelensky Call ‘Wasn’t Ea
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 17 2025]August 17, 2025 at 10:40 am #194041those darned kids
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August 17, 2025 at 11:29 am #194042EoinW
ParticipantAre scientists bringing back extinct species a good thing or is it a case of scientists with too much time on their hands? Like the ones who began the global warming nonsense back in the 1990s.
How about the government only provide funding to scientists who work towards disease cures and treatments? The rest can go out in the world and get real jobs.
Or, if we must have Frankenstein scientists, how about bringing back a T-Rex and letting it loose in DC or London or Brussels?
August 17, 2025 at 11:52 am #194043Michael Reid
ParticipantAugust 17, 2025 at 12:09 pm #194044Red
Participant@eoinw They brought nothing back from anywhere. It’s mutated grey wolf genes that produced these pups.
“Paleogeneticist Dr Nic Rawlence, also from Otago University, explained how ancient dire wolf DNA – extracted from fossilised remains – is too degraded and damaged to biologically copy or clone.“Ancient DNA is like if you put fresh DNA in a 500 degree oven overnight,” Dr Rawlence told BBC News. “It comes out fragmented – like shards and dust.
“You can reconstruct [it], but it’s not good enough to do anything else with.”
Instead, he added, the de-extinction team used new synthetic biology technology – using the ancient DNA to identify key segments of code that they could edit into the biological blueprint of a living animal, in this case a grey wolf.
“So what Colossal has produced is a grey wolf, but it has some dire wolf-like characteristics, like a larger skull and white fur,” said Dr Rawlence. “It’s a hybrid.”
Dr Beth Shapiro, a biologist from Colossal Biosciences, said that this feat does represent de-extinction, which she described as recreating animals with the same characteristics.
“A grey wolf is the closest living relative of a dire wolf – they’re genetically really similar – so we targeted DNA sequences that lead to dire wolf traits and then edited grey wolf cells… then we cloned those cells and created our dire wolves.”
According to Dr Rawlence though, dire wolves diverged from grey wolves anywhere between 2.5 to six million years ago.
Interesting note: The eastern coyote is a hybrid of the western coyote and the grey wolf.
So the hybrid thing was done quite some time ago. By the grey wolf and western coyote.
What we have here is frankenwolves or some such. If cloning was as real as the movies
then we should have large flocks of sheep that don’t have the early abort gene.
Remember dolly the sheep? Well we don’t and sheep are still birthing prematurely.
What we do have is Crispr tech gene splicing. So what we get is Franken-everything.
mRNA in other words.August 17, 2025 at 12:44 pm #194045oxymoron
Participant‘No one is more angered by this picture than: The CIA, NATO, U.K intel, GBHQ, EU, WEF, Blackrock, Globalists and Communists.’
This is childish or disingenuous. Any analysis that sees world events outside the context of technocracy and totalitarianism is flawed.
In case anyone here doubts… more receipts here
https://open.substack.com/pub/escapekey/p/rediscovery?r=nv8me&utm_medium=iosAugust 17, 2025 at 12:51 pm #194046John Day
ParticipantWar Or Peace https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/war-or-peace
The interpretations of the Trump/Putin (and everybody else in both gub’mints) meeting will keep coming in until we get more definitive information, which is not possible until Trump confers with Zelensky and the European and NATO mucky-mucks, because he said he would not-make-deals-without-them. Putin seemed to infer that they had agreed, and the Russian delegation were in good spirits by all accounts, but Trump and Putin made vague statements afterward, then Trump made his escape.
If they did agree-in-principle to various things (but not “one big thing”), then Trump has to go back to all of “the allies” to hash things out before he can say anything public. This is his “off-ramp”, to be sure, but he really wants to do a lot og business with Russia, which would be potentially very, very beneficial for both countries in decades to come. Russia has always been a better “friend” than the UK, demanding less, and giving more, as I read that history.Simplicius is initially disappointed, but not badly so. Historic Summit: An Empty and Underwhelming PR Spectacle, But Still Good For Relations
(The first video where Trump pats Putin’s hand like an old man does, as death-jets fly overhead, and the lady reporter shouts at Putin, is cute.)
All in all I still think the meeting was a great step in US-Russian relations for many other reasons apart from Ukraine. The simple fact of open dialogue and slow-building bonhomie is well worth it after an era of no dialogue and open hostility under the likes of Biden and Obama.
We can only assume where things left off is that Trump now knows first hand precisely what Russia’s immutable demands are, and he needs to find a way to somehow package them into an acceptable form for Ukraine and Europe. The problem is, this is impossible, so for now Trump is stuck playing evasion games and hoping to buy time until the situation on the ground is more amenable, i.e. Zelensky gets desperate, or is altogether ousted.
But we’ll have to wait and see what future statements bring, as the Russian side has yet to make any definitive statements of their own about the meeting.
Lastly, for those of you who voted in the recent poll that Trump would ‘kick the can down the road’, using the meeting as a way to save himself from his own self-imposed ‘sanctions’ trap, it seems you were right. Asked about whether he would still sanction Russia, Trump replied: “Well, because the meeting went so well, we don’t have to think about that now.” https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/historic-summit-an-empty-and-underwhelming Celia Farber, Global Media Meltdown As Putin And Trump Have Goodwill Peace Summit In Alaska; EU Media Openly Miserable, Zelensky Will Visit WH On Monday: What Does The 4 Quadrillion Dollar Debt Have To Do With It? “So Do They Need A Thermonuclear War? They Don’t Need A Little Piddly War.”
..Fail? I thought it was just phase one? Zelensky goes to DC on Monday. They succeeded, surely, in establishing the diplomacy that might lead to a peace deal.
How does global media find so many awful people to fill these positions at all these outlets? Is there an “Awful Person Global Media Academy?” Tagline: “Where We Train You In A Long, Lucrative Career In Distortion, Un-Original Thinking, And Outright Propaganda.”…
..Alex Jones says EU/NATO has a 20-30 year plan to control populations, extend the war, create a police state, sustain itself economically, and break up Russia into five parts. “That’s the official policy of the EU and NATO,” he reports.
HERE IS WHERE WE NEED TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION:
”We’re talking about a four quadrillion dollar global debt. So do they need a thermonuclear war? They don’t need a little piddly war.”
—Daniel Estulin in conversation with Martin Armstrong a must listen.
”Well, the EU wasn’t properly designed to begin with.” Martin Armstrong (They came to Armstrong when they were creating the Euro.) https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/global-media-meltdown-as-putin-andZero Hedge quick summary: Putin: “No Ukraine War If Trump Were President”; Trump: “No Deal Until There’s A Deal” https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/history-making-summit-alaska-trump-en-route-meet-putin-everything-you-need-know
Sub 3 minute blow-by-blow: Pepe Escobar: Putin-Trump Summit Went Much Better Than Expected https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-putin-trump-summit-went-much-better-expected
August 17, 2025 at 12:52 pm #194047John Day
ParticipantMartin Armstrong: The Alaska Summit – And Here We Go Into September
Neocons … have to be rubbing their hands and licking their lips with the thought of getting those $75 trillion in Russian assets and at last ruling the world as laid out in the Wolfowitz Doctrine. The computer will be correct. I can’t stop it. Perhaps humanity deserves what these people are promoting. Maybe it’s just time, as Margaret Thatcher once said to me…
..They are all pushing us into World War III, and no matter what I do, I cannot stop it. The Computer will be right. So, let’s just be prepared. Next year is a Panic Cycle. The UK says it is ready to send peacekeepers into Ukraine who will then instigate WWIII, claiming Russia violated whatever agreement. Europe is stuffed. The EU will never survive beyond 2030. https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/the-alaska-summit-and-here-we-go-into-september/ Saturday: Trump Calls For “Peace Agreement” To End “Horrific War Between Russia & Ukraine”
After a night to digest the historic Trump-Putin summit in Alaska aimed at ending the devastating war in Ukraine … the European Council has released a joint statement. At the same time, the U.S. president posted his update on Truth Social...
Let’s begin with President Trump’s Truth Social post:
A great and very successful day in Alaska! The meeting with President Vladimir Putin of Russia went very well, as did a late night phone call with President Zelenskyy of Ukraine, and various European Leaders, including the highly respected Secretary General of NATO. It was determined by all that the best way to end the horrific war between Russia and Ukraine is to go directly to a Peace Agreement, which would end the war, and not a mere Ceasefire Agreement, which often times do not hold up. President Zelenskyy will be coming to D.C., the Oval Office, on Monday afternoon. If all works out, we will then schedule a meeting with President Putin. Potentially, millions of people’s lives will be saved. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Next, the European Council released a joint statement…
..EU leaders welcomed Trump’s push to end the war in Ukraine. They backed his call for further talks with President Zelenskyy and signaled support for a potential trilateral summit.
Here’s a summary of the statement:
Security Guarantees: Ukraine must receive ironclad security guarantees, with no restrictions on its military or foreign partnerships.
Sovereignty: Territorial decisions rest solely with Ukraine; borders cannot be changed by force.
Western Support: The U.S. and Europe pledged continued military and economic backing, with sanctions pressure on Russia maintained until a just and lasting peace is achieved.ent, Emmanuel Macron, the Italian prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, the German chancellor, Friedrich Merz, the British prime minister, Keir Starmer, the Finnish president, Alexander Stubb, the Polish prime minister, Donald Tusk, the European Council president, António Costa and the European Commission president, Ursula von der Leyen. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/history-making-summit-alaska-trump-en-route-meet-putin-everything-you-need-knowBritain ‘ready to put boots on the ground’ in Ukraine, says UK Defence Secretary https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/britain-ready-put-boots-ground-35738870
America’s off-ramp: Trump Says It Will Be up to Ukraine to Decide on Territorial Swaps https://english.aawsat.com/world/5175579-trump-says-it-will-be-ukraine-decide-territorial-swaps
‘No blitzkrieg, no defeat’: What Russia’s commentariat is saying after the Putin-Trump summit
RT has compiled the reactions of Russian experts to the summit and what it means for Washington, Moscow, and the global balance of power
Fyodor Lukyanov, editor-in-chief of Russia in Global Affairs:
Analogies are always imperfect, but the Alaska summit inevitably brought to mind the first meeting between Mikhail Gorbachev and Ronald Reagan in Geneva nearly forty years ago… Just like back then, no deal was struck, but the level of communication shifted dramatically…
..This time, the pace is faster. This isn’t a Cold War; it’s something hotter. There won’t be year-long pauses between summits. We’ll see follow-ups much sooner – of one kind or another. Critics will try to spin the Alaska meeting as a Trump defeat, arguing that Putin dictated the tempo and set the terms. There’s some truth to that. But if the goal is a sustainable outcome, there’s no alternative to tackling the full scope of issues head-on…
..If the process launched in Alaska continues in the same spirit, we could see an outcome that’s the reverse of what followed Geneva. Back then, Reagan pushed to end the Cold War on Washington’s terms – and succeeded. Today, what’s on the table is the end of the post-Cold War era, a time defined by unchallenged US global dominance. That shift isn’t sudden – it’s been building for years – but it’s now reached a climax. https://www.rt.com/russia/623068-russian-reactions-to-putin-trump-talks/August 17, 2025 at 12:52 pm #194048John Day
ParticipantThis is 9 minutes packed with information. Gilbert Doctorow, WION: Trump-Putin Meet: Trump Puts Pressure on Zelensky, Europe
This morning’s interview with India’s largest global broadcaster in English, WION, has received a significant number of views. I found it interesting to peruse the Comments section, which indicates a shift in Indian public opinion away from pro-US to more balanced praise for both Russia and the US. https://gilbertdoctorow.substack.com/p/wion-trump-putin-meet-trump-putsU.S. SOUTHCOM Deploying 4,000 Troops To Latin American Waters As Counter-Narco-Terror Operations Loom https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-southcom-deploying-4000-troops-latin-american-waters-counter-narco-terror-operations
UN says at least 1,760 killed seeking aid in Gaza https://www.arabnews.com/node/2611950/middle-east
Starving Palestinians to death: UNRWA warns of ‘manmade famine’ in Gaza, urges return to UN-led aid system https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250814-over-14800-gaza-patients-need-urgent-unavailable-treatment/
Staff walked out of Israeli-run Gaza ‘aid project’ condemned as a death trap https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250815-staff-walked-out-of-israeli-run-gaza-aid-project-condemned-as-a-death-trap/
August 17, 2025 at 12:53 pm #194049John Day
ParticipantTRT aerial footage exposes Gaza’s devastation under relentless Israeli assault
Israel’s ongoing attacks in the enclave have resulted in tens of thousands killed, displaced, and starved to death due to Tel Aviv’s enforced starvation policy. https://trt.global/world/article/1ae34ed1fe2aMurder by disease: Thirst drives Gaza families to drink water that makes them sick https://www.arabnews.com/node/2611951/middle-east
Israel targets emergency workers trying to help people trapped in Gaza City
As military closes in on city, it continues attacks across enclave, targeting al-Shifa and Al-Aqsa hospitals. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/15/israel-targets-emergency-workers-trying-to-help-people-trapped-in-gaza-cityGermany calls on Israel to stop building settlements in the West Bank https://timeukraineisrael.com/en/news/germany-calls-on-israel-to-stop-building-settlements-in-the-west-bank/
UN rights office says Israeli settlement plan breaks international law https://www.arabnews.com/node/2611926/middle-east
August 17, 2025 at 12:54 pm #194050John Day
ParticipantFrance condemns Israeli demolition of West Bank school under construction – Foreign Ministry demands accountability from Israeli authorities https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/france-condemns-israeli-demolition-of-west-bank-school-under-construction/3660273
It is more of an observation than a threat, I think. Israel kills people. Hezbollah Chief Threatens ‘No Life In Lebanon’ If Government Moves To Disarm It https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hezbollah-chief-threatens-no-life-lebanon-if-government-moves-disarm-itAndrew Korybko, Indonesia Will Play A Key Role In Russia’s Asian Balancing Act
Although cooperation within BRICS is purely voluntary, the group can still collectively contribute to accelerating financial multipolarity processes and then gradual reforms to global governance afterwards. Accordingly, given Indonesia’s growing economic and corresponding political weight in the world coupled with their traditionally friendly ties, Russia expects that they can cooperate more closely to this end.In pursuit of this goal, which is assessed to be the driving force behind their strategic partnership, both countries are prioritizing the comprehensive expansion of their economic, political, and military ties.
From Russia’s perspective, the economic dimension can open new markets for all manner of energy and real-sector exports, closer ties with de facto ASEAN leader Indonesia can give Russia more of a presence in that bloc, and more military-technical cooperation can strengthen Indonesia’s own balancing act.
About that, Indonesia multi-aligns between rival powers just like India does, and closer military-technical cooperation with Russia could help it avoid the growing zero-sum dilemma to commit to China or the US. https://korybko.substack.com/p/indonesia-will-play-a-key-role-in Two Tier UK: ‘Cut Throats’ Councillor Freed, While Mother Who Tweeted Still In Prison
A leftist councillor who called for murdering anti-mass migration protesters has gotten off scot free https://modernity.news/2025/08/15/two-tier-uk-cut-throats-councillor-freed-while-mother-who-tweeted-still-in-prison/China Rushes To Buy Russian Oil As India Pulls Back https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/china-rushes-buy-russian-oil-india-pulls-back
August 17, 2025 at 12:54 pm #194051John Day
Participant“Detect, Track, Neutralize”: Autonomous Turrets With Low-Cost Firepower To Counter Kamikaze Drones https://www.zerohedge.com/military/detect-track-neutralize-autonomous-turrets-low-cost-firepower-counter-kamikaze-drones
China’s “Assassin’s Mace” Irregular Warfare Campaign May Render Trump’s Golden Dome Useless
With American deaths caused by Covid-19 now well exceeding Vietnam War casualty figures, a strong case can be made that the CCP’s covert program to develop, test, and deploy the next generation of more lethal, genetically stable, and stealthy engineered pathogens qualifies as a WMD program.
It’s become entirely clear that the CCP shows limited to no signs of modifying or reversing its intent to target, degrade, and eventually dissolve the U.S. from within, conquer Taiwan, dominate the Indo-Pacific, and implode the dollar system for a new “international system” for all things China. President Trump knows this, which is why he recently said any BRICS member will be slapped with tariffs over de-dollarization attempts.
What the CCP clearly understands is that the U.S. remains the single greatest obstacle to its global domination plan. By contrast, Europe has effectively neutralized itself through the consequences of mass migration and the self-sabotaging policies of woke liberal elites in Brussels. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinas-assassins-mace-irregular-warfare-campaign-may-render-trumps-golden-dome-useless Doug Casey on the China Hysteria: Manufactured Threat or Inevitable Rival?
China’s newfound prosperity is seen as a threat. China, however, isn’t the problem; it’s the U.S. government’s attitude towards China, combined with visible U.S. decline, while China is advancing rapidly on every front. So, the U.S. Government is trying to suppress China and throw up roadblocks to its progress with sanctions and tariffs, while denying it imports and trying to pen it up militarily. As with Russia, the U.S. is provoking them on many fronts.
However, the current U.S. policy is not only doomed to failure, but is actively counterproductive. https://internationalman.com/articles/doug-casey-on-the-china-hysteria-manufactured-threat-or-inevitable-rival/Trump Says Xi Assured Him China Will Not Invade Taiwan During His Presidency https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-says-xi-assured-him-china-will-not-invade-taiwan-during-his-presidency
Very limited manufacturing capacity these days: WoodMac Sounds Alarm On Transformer Shortage Amid AI Data Center Boom https://www.zerohedge.com/ai/no-longer-ignored-woodmac-sounds-alarm-transformer-shortage-amid-ai-data-center-boom
August 17, 2025 at 12:56 pm #194052John Day
ParticipantFarmers are old, indebted, and have a job in town, too: The Death Of The Small Farm Is The Death Of Rural America https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/death-small-farm-death-rural-america
August 17, 2025 at 1:12 pm #194053oxymoron
ParticipantThe wolf thing is pure unadulterated lying in just the same way as ‘safe and effective’ or any other dirty bio Pharma military weird shit
August 17, 2025 at 1:33 pm #194054Topcat
ParticipantAt the very core, the Axis Mundi of the Russia-US relationship sits this:
The US MIC Maggots
Crewing the flesh off the bones of the Republic…….
August 17, 2025 at 1:36 pm #194055Topcat
ParticipantAugust 17, 2025 at 1:38 pm #194056Topcat
ParticipantGetting the job done, it’s not all Galore & Glitz
August 17, 2025 at 1:39 pm #194057Topcat
Participant
August 17, 2025 at 1:40 pm #194058Topcat
ParticipantBetween a Rock and a Hard Place
August 17, 2025 at 1:42 pm #194059those darned kids
Participant‘No one is more angered by this picture than: The CIA, NATO, U.K intel, GBHQ, EU, WEF, Blackrock, Globalists and Communists.’
This is childish or disingenuous. Any analysis that sees world events outside the context of technocracy and totalitarianism is flawed.
August 17, 2025 at 2:02 pm #194060Topcat
ParticipantLady Lindsey
Got major butthurt after Alaska
Being a Globohomo is such a Drag……

August 17, 2025 at 2:13 pm #194061my parents said know
ParticipantImagine a cartoon of a UK military plane opening the cargo doors over Ukraine and dropping thousands of boots….
August 17, 2025 at 2:20 pm #194062zerosum
Participantgullible
An influencer/salesperson/politician/liar/TDS(Trump Derangement Syndrome: A term used to describe individuals who exhibit extreme reactions to President Donald Trump.)
———–• Trump Plans White House Meeting With Zelensky and European Leaders – NYT (RT)
The goal should be a peace agreement rather than a temporary ceasefire.
Trump will propose a plan under which Kiev would be required to cede the parts of the new Russian territories in Donbass still under Ukrainian control, according to the newspaper.
In return, the Kremlin would agree to cease hostilities along the current front line elsewhere, the publication claimed.
Zelensky has repeatedly ruled out any territorial concessions to Moscow.
the US president told them “he wants to arrange a trilateral summit with Putin and Zelensky as soon as next Friday,” according to Axios.
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• President Trump Outlines a Remarkably Altruistic Intention (CTH)Stopping the killing is President Trump’s main priority and peace is the elusive prize.
In the background, as previously noted by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the administration accepts the conflict in Ukraine is essentially a proxy war between the former Biden administration officials, NATO warmongers, international banking interests and Russia.
In a moment of genuine sunlight upon the backstory, President Trump notes he told President Putin, “There’s no way we are going to make a deal” … “impossible” … “because I have wise guys who created a phony deal,” the Trump-Russia collusion hoax, “and until those things are settled up” a reset in the relationship with Russia is impossible.
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• The Putin-Trump Meeting (Paul Craig Roberts)The budget, influence over Congress, and power of the military/security complex requires a major enemy.
Russia fills that role.Peace on equal terms with Russia takes away the enemy, and the budget and influence of the military/security complex declines.
There are military bases or weapon manufacturers in almost every state, which means this interest is also institutionalized as President Eisenhower warned us it would be.
Therefore, the question before us is: how likely is it that Trump can get NATO and missile bases off of Russia’s border?
It is not at all likely if attention cannot be directed to the basic problem.
How helpful will media be?
It is the wrong focus to emphasize that Putin wanted the meeting in order to show that he was not isolated and could meet with the American president like Zelensky and Netanyahu do.
For Trump the meeting was a way of getting himself off of the spot.
The opportunity to wind down a confrontation that would likely end in nuclear war is based on luck.
Can this lucky outcome be turned into a mutual security agreement?That depends on the strength of the neoconservatives’ doctrine of hegemony and the willingness of the military/security complex to accept declining sales and profits.
Until it is realized that these two interests are the barriers to peace that must be overcome, there will be no peace process.———-
Public debt, bond market,
At this point, real reforms may already be too late: any drastic cuts would collapse economies hooked on subsidies, cheap credit, and state interventionism, triggering mass unemployment and social unrest.• DOGE’s AI Tool ‘SweetREX’ Set To Take Buzzsaw To Federal Regulations (ZH)
————-Focus on critical information
Flue, Covid is no threat. But mRNA is.
• The Legacy Media Won’t Touch These mRNA Vaccine Study Findings (Margolis)
Stronger evidence has emerged showing that COVID-19 mRNA vaccines actually raise the risk of respiratory infections with each additional dose.
… how and why mRNA vaccines were suddenly thrust upon us.
Though we kind of already know why.
About a year before COVID hit, Dr. Anthony Fauci joined a panel at the Milken Institute Future of Health Summit to discuss moving from traditional vaccines to mRNA technology.New Yorker writer Michael Specter suggested “blowing up the system,” since vaccines were still being made largely the same way they were in the 1940s.
Fauci acknowledged the potential, but stressed that approval of new vaccines required lengthy trials—phase one through three—followed by years of data, which he said could take a decade even under ideal conditions.
Rick Bright, then head of HHS Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), added that a disruptive event might be needed to bypass bureaucracy.
He floated the idea that an outbreak of a novel avian virus in China could spur such change, with the RNA sequence shared quickly to produce vaccines—potentially even printed at home on patches for self-administration.
Enter the COVID pandemic mere months later.
————August 17, 2025 at 2:27 pm #194063Topcat
ParticipantProof
An elusive beast
Fact Checkers SuckTruth slips by without notice….
He’s got a point
August 17, 2025 at 2:29 pm #194064Topcat
ParticipantRelativity Theory
August 17, 2025 at 2:30 pm #194065Topcat
ParticipantAugust 17, 2025 at 2:31 pm #194066Topcat
ParticipantAugust 17, 2025 at 3:12 pm #194067kultsommer
ParticipantFor those with no patience………. he was let go back to Israel.
August 17, 2025 at 3:20 pm #194068Dr. D
ParticipantTrump hates peace I guess, works for the Globalists and is starting new wars. You were all right! That’s the takeaway I have from this week.
ActBlue totally is, and totally is foreign money and direction, but this will be “Political”.
We needed to reach the point where we DGAF.
“I’m starting to think Trump wants a more comprehensive deal than what we’ve seen so far.”
Yes, it’s “not about Ukraine”. That’s a footnote, already lost and so settled. That’s why economics advisors, not Ze or Rutte. However, Mercouris was wrong about the Russia Fed head attending which would have been a much stronger indicator. Same thing, but I have less proof.
“The second Trump administration is not on the defensive, but on the offensive, regarding the Russiagate hoax, and is in a position to accuse the Democrats of collusion and falsification in 2016, not the other way around.”
Luongo was on with LaRouche rep, and she pointed out that Ending the Fed was at least a two-administration bid. It just takes time. (In actually, no bureaucracy goes away, ever, until the people starve and the nation collapses, but…) So you see being reasonable about your tactical ask and position, why Trump can’t just knock heads in Admin One, when he let everyone demonstrate who they were, set up compartmentalized operators, sucked out all the data, let his AI people grind it for four years, and reappear with a plan like DOGE, etc.
And look what happened: DOGE found $2T, enough to save everyone on the planet, Front Page for weeks, and Congress STILL refuses to act on ANY of it, I think like $300B. This is with a “Republican” Congress, Trump has blackmail on, who are battered in the front pages, where if they don’t act on stuff like this, people will think they’re pedophiles. THEY STILL WON’T CUT.
That’s the kind of “I’d rather you murder me first” inertia in ALL governments. ALL. They will carve up all of your children, marinate them, and put them on the grill mmm-mm good before they cut ONE dollar from their own pride and fortune. Every. One. of them.
“a fast peace deal is better than a ceasefire.”
Read Ukraine should be furious with our betrayal. WTF? Are you all f—ing reatrded? No! When was the last time we EVER supported a shill, puppet state except NEVER. We have never ever ever ever ever ever ever supported our allies and not betrayed them. And you want US to be mad? What POSSIBLE warning did Ukraine not have that 100% chance, sure-lock this would definitely happen. THEY STARTED THE DAMN WAR ON THE MONTH WE BETRAYED AFGHANISTAN for the love of Christ.
Now of course I don’t think America should do this, obviously. But I also think if every other nation is 500% DUMBER THAN EVEN WE ARE, well, it’s almost a crime not to take it.
DON’T TRUST AMERICA. Poof! Empire ends overnight. Yay! Wins all around.
Nope, they’re only sad when the Empire gets SMALLER. I ask you for $100 bucks when I already haven’t paid back the last $7,000 over 50 years.
“• Trump Plans White House Meeting With Zelensky and European Leaders – NYT (RT)
This is where they say “Hell no” and we say “We out.” Good. Too bad it takes so much time, even a few weeks. Can’t Europe collapse into the h—hole it is faster?
“Putin won’t negotiate with Zelensky. He’ll only turn up to sign documents.”
I hadn’t fully measured this, but Ze is used up and hated. He’s an albatross for him, Ukraine, Britain, and the World. Why does MI6 keep him? It was vital that he NOT be a real legal leader, so it’s IMPOSSIBLE to have any peace deals. That’s actually the GOOD thing to England, when they murder the NEXT 1.2 MILLION slavs.
They have Zu right there, probably Zoolandered with drugs and MK in London, waiting to be the next non-leader of the non-nation. So it’s not like they can’t. It’s actually taking them far too long. But they need all Ukraine to be IMPOSSIBLE to have peace with Russia until every Slav worldwide, is dead. Hitler’s real plan.
“Trump moved away from his demand for a ceasefire and said that it was more important to work toward a permanent peace than a ceasefire which is seldom kept. This would seem to commit Trump to addressing the root cause”
It’s hard to communicate to you and prove, but this is all about MOVING the discussion. Trump starts with “Ima attack youse Russkies!” then “Nuclear Subs” then, “Little Rocket Man” (they both thought that was hilarious) and finally to Kellogg/Europe (But I repeat myself, Kellogg is cancerous outgrowth of Europe) with a “Let’s rearm ceasefire” aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand to now.
See? Okay, backtrack then: Trump is elected, starts here, where it always had to go. “We hereby give Russia everything.” Think he could push that through? No. Negotiation is making the OTHER guy go through his own mental discovery of why this is reasonable and should buy your s—ty product. That’s sales. This is now obvious, and Trump didn’t do it! They decided totally on their own, like big boys!
Yes, I think it’s stupid, but that’s how it works. That’s how all humans are. Big waste of valuable time.
“• Who Has Been Busy Destroying Democracy? (Victor Davis Hanson)
Save it, they’re incapable of seeing hypocrisy or engaging with facts. We’ve done this good faith thing for like 50 years. We had a Mueller Report. Only today read someone who was called on it (using naughty language) was like, MAGA ppl R dum, this is a Right-wing talking point. Like…the Report…EXISTS? And you do this having not read it and when people tell you to read it, you don’t and carry on. ….And all your people do ALSO, and ALSO don’t read it and carry on as if it’s true. Forever and ever and ever, by the millions, amen.
Whyyyyy do I have to say these things? I’ll go back to not saying and pretending I don’t know, but it’s all feminine. It’s like POWER. You say “I AM THE GODDAMN POWER AND YOU’LL OBEY ME OR I’LL BEAT YOU SENSELESS.” Then suddenly! Lo! What you’re saying becomes True again! It’s a miracle! They only know power, obey power, follow power, Truth Is Power. That’s it. I don’t want it to be this way and I don’t want this to be related to gender, but there you have it. I’ll now pretend it isn’t for a while, because it makes me sad and is a rather dark view of things. “Truth” is who goes to jail.
“They looked at kids who had gotten it in the first 30 days and there was a 10,000% increase.”
These are facts, they are irrelevant and will not penetrate. I can forward articles on this daily to millions and have nothing happen. Their own children are the ones killed: they do not care.
“• Merz’s Germany: 100 Days Of Economic Deep Freeze (Kolbe)
We’re at a rather troubling point: there’s no next move for Germany or much of Europe. That also rolls out a carpet for desperate, weird, illegal things, makes them not only possible but preferable. This is how terrible, irreversible accidents happen in history. Fall and break up of whole nations n stuff. Culture peoples lose their homelands and cease to exist. Those are outliers, but it is so bad just to limp along with an AfD that is to the Left of the DNC, who are all sellouts to the status quo? Really? That level is so intolerable you want to collapse Germany as a people and culture instead? A: Yes. Proof: Migrants.
Same in UK where you see DAILY freeing of migrants for the WORST crimes, taken in the act of rape, etc, let go, any Brit FLYING THE ENGLISH FLAG are arrested and fined. Hour after hour, day after day, by the thousands.
It’s bold plan, I hope it pays off for them, but personally I’m long Rope right now, and will giggle to see you dancing.
“• Schwarzenegger Taunts Newsom With Message Targeting Dem Redistricting Push (Fox)
Joke’s on all of them: they’ve already gerrymandered every Republican in every state out decades ago. California only has any at all left because they’re so very large. But MA, HI, etc, already have zero. It would be extremely difficult to lift one or two out of overwhelmingly biased NY as like IL, Upstate is bright Red.
Texas knocking off a few, that’s it. It’s over. Like Texas moves four, all Blue states combined can’t match it because they ALREADY stole that to stay in power when the people hate their ever-loving guts years before now. …And Jimmy Dore told them. It takes ALMOST NOTHING. Have a Medicare4All VOTE, at all. You already have ACA and it’s already killing everyone. So make it a little bigger and look like you care.
NOPE.
Shut down every Union, while derailing trains, not cleaning up, then pointing and laughing?
NOPE.
Pretend you care about middle/lower class wages?
NOPE.
So it was Gerrymandering, that’s what you had left?
Yup.I don’t understand. This is the Game Played Badly. JUST LIE!!! You always have before.
“The computer will be correct. I can’t stop it.”
He’s not wrong. As the balance changes, I can easily see Western Ukraine be a country, Not “Technically” NATO, a desperate Europe “Provides military support” and pours in 10k troops at a pop there, neatly taken out by the ten-thousands by Russia. This is intolerable, so they de facto open a real war, France tries to nuke Moscow which they’ve already said they’ll do, and Armstrong is right.
We’re out of it. As in Revelations. But that’s a very cold comfort indeed. For everyone.
August 17, 2025 at 3:21 pm #194069zerosum
ParticipantThings that I read that make me think/reflect
It is odd how different people can see the same event and see completely different things in it. Some people seem compelled to apply the most negative possible interpretation to anything related to Trump for some ([cough] TDS [cough]) reason.
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‘both ends of infinity’
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Putin explained to Trump + Rubio + Witkoff that the Ukraines is a fascist, neo-nazi State, providing abundant documentary evidence,
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i think Trump really wants to get out of ukraine for the following reasons:he is short of weapons
he needs what he has to help Israel
His miliotary has told his US weapons are not as good as hyped
His military experts have told hikm what is obvious – Russia will win come what may
There are plans afoot for two other wars one against Iran and the other against China. Need to keep Russia out of both if possible so need to cut a deal in Ukraine
USA is broke and cannot pay up so needs to cut budget
He trump and his real estate buddies stand to make big profits from peace and development in Russia
Trump has grandkids and does not want nuclear war.
Taken together these make a good case for a US peace deal with Russia.
Posted by: watcher | Aug 17 2025 7:50 utc | 309
————–On the surface, it appears detente between Trump and Putin has been achieved.
Unfortunately, the personal relationship between the 2 doesn’t translate to the US giving up on subjugating Russia.
Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Serbia,
Moldova, Iran, China and the Greater Israel project are all still in play.I am inclined to believe that the “brains” have concluded there is no more to gain from the Ukraine angle and abandoning that project for others that may prove more fruitful.
So was Alaska just kabuki? Of course, but doesn’t mean it wouldn’t have far reaching consequences.
The end of Ukraine is also the end of NATO, which is already “braindead”, bloated and no longer fit for purpose. It will also be the end of the EU.
Cheers
Posted by: Suresh | Aug 17 2025 8:48 utc | 318
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Did you take note of the following changesthe return of direct flights.
Russia decree opens door for Exxon return to Sakhalin-1 project
————–Von der Leyen announced on Platform X that she was attending the meeting in Washington at Zelensky’s request.
The topic of the discussion with Trump is the end of the Ukraine conflict. The discussions will include, among other things, “security guarantees, territorial issues, and continued support for Ukraine in fending off Russian aggression. This also includes maintaining the pressure of sanctions,” the German government announced. “The trip serves to exchange information with US President Donald Trump following his meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska.” Germany underscores the goal of a peace agreement in Ukraine, it said.
Von der Leyen will receive Zelenskyy in Brussels on Sunday. A video conference is planned with the so-called “Coalition of the Willing,” which, in addition to Germany, includes France and Great Britain. Ukraine’s allies want to coordinate their tactics before the meeting with Trump.
Posted by: Genesis | Aug 17 2025 12:30 utc | 371
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A Terrible Deal, But There Will Be No Better Siversk Defense Collapsed Military Summary 2025.08.17
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August 17, 2025 at 3:42 pm #194070kultsommer
ParticipantThis is childish or disingenuous. Any analysis that sees world events outside the context of technocracy and totalitarianism is flawed.
Labeling it as a (covert) “Marxism” seeping into the Western world does not help either.
It does shield the actual perpetrators (the “job creators”).August 17, 2025 at 3:53 pm #194071Topcat
ParticipantEpstein Score Card
8/17/25
Grand Juries: Zero
Indictments: Zero
Arrests: Zero
Convictions: Zero
Sentences: ZeroAugust 17, 2025 at 3:55 pm #194072Topcat
ParticipantAugust 17, 2025 at 3:55 pm #194073Topcat
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August 17, 2025 at 5:22 pm #194074Michael Reid
ParticipantAugust 17, 2025 at 5:42 pm #194075kultsommer
ParticipantLeaders are talking and it is good to avert a nuclear tension. Fine.
Just one sample of the things that actually matter.
“Invisible hand of the market”, that knows the best, let loose.
Short term seek for profit here, there and everywhere, as the system’s MOD.Can anybody see how to crawl out of this among many holes? Where one goes from here and “MAGA”?
August 17, 2025 at 6:49 pm #194076WES
ParticipantSaw on MoA:
Alaska summit was the climax of Russiagate.
Hillary:
Even Hillary Clinton now knows she and her friends won’t ever be prosecuted by Trump.
August 17, 2025 at 7:21 pm #194077Dr D Rich
ParticipantOnce again in case you neglected it:
Steamrolled: Vladimir Putin Shares an Existential Secret with Trump and You Just Saw the Result
August 17, 2025 at 7:35 pm #194078Michael Reid
ParticipantAugust 17, 2025 at 7:45 pm #194079WES
ParticipantFinancial Repression:
They are calling it “yield control” or “yield curve control”.
The US government maybe broke but they desperately need to borrow more money to stay in power!
TPTB need to load the poor with more debt.Don’t be fooled!
If you are a saver, you are being royally screwed!The US government is artifically suppressing interest rates, so they can borrow more!
This process is called “Financial Repression”.That is why the Fed is selling most of it’s long term US Treasury bonds to buy short term US T – Bills.
The US Treasury dept is going to issue trillions of extra US T – Bills so the Fed can switch from long term to short term debt.As a saver, that means interest rates will be less than inflation.
That means you will be paying the government to borrow your money!
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