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  • #191882
    Red
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    “Now Sending Weapons to NATO Instead of Ukraine..”
    You mean the contracts to build these weapons are now NATO’s contracts.

    “Mike Benz exposes how Gates’ $200B foundation grants fund censorship to shield his pharma empire & crush dissent.”

    This is a good summary of how that is done:

    #191883
    Topcat
    Participant

    Trust Trump

    The Scott Adam’s Hypothesis

    It’s been revealed previously:

    #191884
    Topcat
    Participant

    #191885
    Topcat
    Participant

    #191886
    tboc
    Participant

    i can remember when whistleblowers were named “nattering nabobs of negativity”

    ref Scott Adams:
    it is one thing when you are being lied to in an effort to protect you from an unsettling truth, it is an entirely different state of affairs when you are being lied to in an effort to protect you from a bigger lie that hides an even bigger lie
    perhaps the fictional character Jessup had Adams in mind in that character’s infamous outburst

    #191887
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Europe (France) releasing official documents to leave the U.S. and go independent. …By becoming a vassal of China. Nice! https://substack.com/home/post/p-167972819

    “If you trust Trump, you have to also trust him to lie to you when it’s in your best interest.”

    Whoops! I don’t actually. You can’t make me.

    “• Bongino and Patel May Resign If Pam Bondi Stays As Attorney General (Margolis)

    Sounds good. Also keeps it in the news.

    Look at his point of view: Dan left a famous, clean, multi-million dollar radio job where he was valuable hammering on these guys all day. Trusts Trump, gets in, NOT A DAY LATER, he’s asked to cover up everything he’s been saying for years, if not his whole career. Talk about being made the punk! Even if there’s a good reason, that’s intolerable. That’s a stick in your eye, no respect, for no reason. If they knew this might happen, they shouldn’t have bothered and asked him, but gotten some corrupted crumb or a different robot Rubio, etc.

    So, good.

    “It looks very bad on Trump if he loses Patel and Bongino, just like it looked good when he brought them in. Bondi has a much more chequered past.”

    Okay, so who’s running things? Trump knows and is calling this tune? Bondi? Who? They can’t all be both involved and innocent. Somebody has to swing.

    “After years of waiting for the Epstein client list to see the light of day, the Trump administration says the list doesn’t exist.”

    Why does this always work? WHO? Who in the Administration? Who, Mr. Reporter. Obviously Trump is complicit, from his actions, he’s at a minimum playing and approving it, even if he’s working for deniability to “fix it” next week. They all treat govt as one, departments (Pentagon, CIA) as one, People as one. Whole ethnic groups as one.

    People are individuals. Like America being made of YOU, individual people are responsible for their individual crimes.

    What else? I don’t see Democrats rioting for the Epstein list, only Republicans, where “The Cult” is again, constantly and vigorously against their leaders. Why? Wouldn’t this be the best possible time to jump in and get Trump for something real for a change? Oops, no, they got “The Memo.”

    “You could make the case that the so-called “community” is just a giant criminal syndicate engaged in the most nefarious activities ongoing in this world of sin: human trafficking, drugs, money-laundering, weapons, every off-the-book turpitude you could imagine”

    Well, that’s what we all say every day, so agree.

    “Mr. Trump says he was not even informed about Ukraine’s recent long-range drone attack deep into Russia, to take out its strategic bombers. Wasn’t informed? WTF??? Was it because the CIA has gone rogue over in Ukraine?”

    Yes, and all because we know. And because he ALSO doesn’t go down there with Patton’s third army and start arresting everyone he finds. And ALSO because he gave big rumors like a day before that Op went off…suggesting he DID know something. So he’s not in charge of the country. Yeah. We know. Since Eisenhower. Truman.

    Again, and again, and again. They all know. Trump all knows. They need YOU to know, the American people. YOU are the government. If YOU make heads roll with no Epstein list, heads will roll. You say politicians jump at the head of a parade? Well then call a parade and make them.

    “Essentially, the “coalition of the willing” (U.K, Germany, France) are not willing to go to war against Russia without the United States in front of them.”

    Not exactly. Because THEY DON’T HAVE AN ARMY. That means they’re not behind us either.

    ““Has it ever occurred to Trump and his government that they are seen as nothing but the two-bit punk puppets of Israel led around by Netanyahu with an Israeli ring in their nose?”

    I’m sure it has, what do you want them to do about it? For example: no Epstein tapes? Gee, well every file has multiple copies down in Mossad central, where Aspnaz works. There’s five copies at MI6. They know everything that went on, meanwhile FBI copies of virtually everyone in government down the the Janitor is shredded and you don’t have it to use. Again, it’s not THAT there is file, but that we BOTH have them. We think of it as “Columbo” where the wife blackmails the husband. In reality it’s like everyone on city council, the police chief, a couple policemen, and two reporters all have copies on the Mayor. Not just one. What does that mean in Game Theory?

    “• Sen. Kennedy Skewers Comey and Brennan (Margolis)

    Is “skewering” the same as arresting and hanging them? If only he were a serious, powerful Congressman or something.

    “• Sen. Ron Johnson Prepares Subpoenas For DOJ, FBI in Butler Shooting Probe (JTN)

    Ah, here’s a congressman doing something. Why is it a Congressman? And so some agents got a free vacation, no issues, no charges.


    Dice on the Epstein thing. Runs it down, less humor, including Shapiro, who of course, as a paid plant and agent, is protecting his Mossad handlers.

    Adds one thing from O’Reilly: that someone once saw Epstein and is therefore “in the Epstein files” the media won’t care and add context (on purpose). Anyone who ever saw him – which is everyone – is then burned. Market crashes, Media runs a extortion, or at this point, an ENFORCER racket, of beating all Gotham’s top citizens, and just getting away with it. While I’m shorting all their stocks while lying about them, obviously.

    The inconvenient truth for Democrats is that there is still no bottom in sight, as the party of leftist radicals doubles, triples, and quadruples down on diversity, equity, inclusion, all things woke, and most alarmingly, a rapid descent into embracing Marxist ideas”

    “They do not understand how the real world works. Almost every single policy they rolled out has failed.”

    But have 100 years of Socialist policies really been tried?

    “All of them generationally rich from stock-based compensation in a company WHERE THE GOVERNMENT GUARANTEES THEIR SUCCESS”

    No argument from me. One of you is first to kill, one of you is second. Take your pick which is which.

    But all these people who say they are Socialists, now join the party, all from families of socialists, writing books about Socialists, they are not actually Socialists, which has never been tried.

    “Relations with the US may never return to what they used to be, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has said,”

    All of America hopes so.

    “The unpopular European “leaders” see a chance for revenge. The Trump/Musk rift gives them hope.
    • France Opens Criminal Case Against Musk’s X (RT)

    Interesting. They think Trump won’t back Elon’s cases, and they can’t fake that.

    #191888
    Topcat
    Participant

    Jaime Dimon runs J P Morgan like a Gay Satan

    #191889
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “If you trust Trump, you have to also trust him to lie to you when it’s in your best interest.”

    the scary part is when he tells the truth.

    #191890
    those darned kids
    Participant

    it’s like 1% or something ridiculous the quantity of fentanyl that enters the u.s. MARKET from canada.

    mr chrump et al. are blahblahing to set up even more militarized bullshit here, there and everywhere.

    never forget:

    “TRUST UNCLE DONNIE! HE ONLY LIES WHEN YOU NEED IT!”

    #191891
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “• France Opens Criminal Case Against Musk’s X ”

    not spacex. nope.

    targeting babies for slaughter is fine – you just can’t say it on txitter.

    #191892
    aspnaz
    Participant

    The Scott Adam’s Hypothesis

    Yeah, the man who chose cancer over social friction. Total turd, his thinking gave him cancer and yet he still thinks that people should listen to him on the internet? What is he trying to do, kill more people by making them think his way?

    #191893
    Topcat
    Participant

    Hollyweird

    They’ve got The Power

    #191894
    Topcat
    Participant

    “Science”

    Yeh, I’ve heard that word before…..

    #191895
    charles
    Participant

    just trying to what if some dots. what if mpsk was right yesterday. and scott adams is right today. Application of fermi estimate says that the things we are being protected from are other worldly. Mythology or alien. The sky is filled with good and bad mortals never know.

    #191896
    Topcat
    Participant

    USSA

    It’s not a gas station masquerading as a country

    It’s a Hospice masquerading as a country

    #191897
    zerosum
    Participant

    the Jeffrey Epstein files

    There are hundreds of employees, insiders, maids, that know the truth.
    Read the blogs, the social media.
    Ask Bongino and Patel ask Alan Dershowitz, ask Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.).
    Truth is found in the gossip

    • Bongino and Patel May Resign If Pam Bondi Stays As Attorney General (Margolis)

    • Flux Rules (James Howard Kunstler)

    ————–
    “I think the files existed at one time,” Burchett said. “I think they were destroyed in the previous administration… and if they’d ever had anything on Trump, it would have been out day one under the Biden administration.” When Vittert agreed, Burchett continued, suggesting that the real reason the files remain hidden is because of who they might implicate. “I think there’s some very prominent people. There’s Hollywood people, but I think there’s world leaders too. And would it have caused economic disruption around the globe? Maybe. But I don’t really care.” Vittert asked if the hesitation to release names might be due to fear of unjustly tarnishing people who may have interacted with Epstein but did nothing wrong. Burchett rejected the idea and instead pointed to Ghislaine Maxwell’s conviction:

    I just don’t think they exist. I think they did at one time.” He tied it back to the Hunter Biden laptop scandal: “You got an administration that lied and said Hunter Biden’s laptop didn’t exist… You had 30 of the top so-called intelligence people in the country say that, and they didn’t get chastised by anybody but y’all and a couple of others.” Burchett doesn’t trust the official story and doesn’t believe that the truth about Epstein will ever come out.

    “What’s Ms. Maxwell doing in jail?
    ————
    Now, the internet changed everything.
    They didn’t teach us about it in school.
    • Zelensky Claimed He ‘Never Heard Of’ Ukrainian Nazi Crimes – Duda (RT)

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    #191898
    Topcat
    Participant

    Imagine

    #191899
    Topcat
    Participant

    #191900
    Topcat
    Participant

    #191901
    Topcat
    Participant

    #191902
    kultsommer
    Participant

    From hating America to preaching Marxism and fueling chaos in city streets with dark money-funded NGOs,

    Paying a genuine, rowdy soccer fans to create a mayhem afters some basketball game does not make them basketball fans!

    #191903
    zerosum
    Participant


    New Large-Scale Attack Russian Forces Push Forward in Kharkiv Area Military Summary For 2025.07.12

    #191904
    Noirette
    Participant

    Doug Henwood, Feb. 2023.

    *Scattered speculations on the US ruling class*

    excerpts:

    The quick version of my historical analysis is that the WASP elite that ruled the country from the late 19th century through the 1970s lost its pre-eminence and was succeeded by, well, it’s not easy to say what, except that it’s more mercenary and short-sighted than its predecessor. .. Since the 2016 election, analysts have talked about much of Trump’s support coming from the white working class.

    (…)

    Though they may code as working class to metropolitan elites, a lot of those supporters don’t have many scratches in the cargo beds of their giant pickup trucks. As a 2019 paper by Thomas Ogorzalek and collaborators put it, they’re nationally poor and locally rich—a provincial petite bourgeoisie, lawyers, accountants, car dealers, contractors. That has long been a base for right-wing politics…

    ….the right, which is now on a campaign against “woke capitalism,” or what the irrepressible Marjorie Taylor Greene calls “corporate communism.” Republican states are withdrawing pension assets from BlackRock management, and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is making ESG into one of the fronts in his war on wokeness.

    – end excerpts

    more at, https://lbo-news.com/2023/02/14/scattered-speculations-on-the-us-ruling-class/

    see also

    https://jacobin.com/2021/04/take-me-to-your-leader-the-rot-of-the-american-ruling-class

    #191905
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The reason that the Epstein documents, videos, and “client list” are being suppressed is both more heinous and more simple than is immediately apparent.

    The reason is that the United States of America, and the Empire it runs by means of torture, murder and sexual blackmail would utterly cease to exist, probably violently, as a consequence. Perpetrators believe that an indescribably outraged world and domestic population would rise up in a paroxysm of vengeance and kill the worst of the offenders, imprison a large number of the remainder and permanently fire all 23 million people who draw their tax supported paycheck from government jobs at all levels.

    That’s a pretty compelling reason to hide the fact that our so-called government is a gaggle of the worst criminals in human history. Bar none.

    Nothing short of its annihilation will suffice to put an end to the continual perpetration of its closely interrelated and mutually protected crimes.

    What’s so hard to understand about that?

    #191906
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Yeah, I’m back. Didja miss me? Frankly I don’t know how y’all managed to stagger through the interim. Must have been Hell, but if you think that was bad just imagine how bad it’s going to be now that I’m here again.

    #191907
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Not all crimes are the same size, and therefore not all crimes have (or deserve) the same consequences. Perpetrators tend to think of the consequences which they have brought upon themselves as being punishment, but that emotionalizing of a material thing, is just the squirming of a guilty conscience. The results of crime are just consequences, that’s all.

    And like all other consequences in this Cause & Effect Universe they are as unavoidable as the Law of Cause and Effect.

    #191908
    Dora
    Participant

    re Bhakdi:
    “We’re seeing — I’m afraid to say BILLIONS OF PEOPLE — whose brains are not working anymore. Not as they should be. They are altered. And they don’t have the willpower anymore. They don’t have the intelligence anymore…”
    (my emphasis)

    This fits with a youtube video I saw by chance several years ago which purported to be of Bill Gates giving a sales pitch – presentation to US Army generals where he offered to come up with a vaccine to take the fight out of people. Wouldn’t it be good, he proposed, to make everyone in the Middle East inclined to fight against the West, aka terrorists, to make everyone not want to fight, make them passive. Easier to rule.

    I’ve looked and looked for that video again. I haven’t been able to find it. But I did see it. Bhakdi’s comment sounds very like what Gates proposed in the video. note: Gates face and most of the generals faces were away from the camera (smart phone camera?) and toward the blackboard and overhead slide show, so it’s hard to prove it absolutely was Gates, but it looked like a real video to me. Make of this what you will.

    #191909
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Take Trump, for example (Please!). Do you think for a New York minute that he will do or allow ANYTHING to upset the apple cart that has made him the multi-billionaire emperor of the richest and most powerful empire that the world has ever seen?

    Really? Do you honestly think that?

    Well, if you do actually believe that ANYONE drawing a government paycheck is going to do ANYTHING intentionally effective to end their own free ride then, brother, we have some work to do on your moxy.

    #191910
    zerosum
    Participant

    The Jeffrey Epstein files have been erased because the elite client fear
    “a Jesus moment in the temple with the money changers”

    #191911
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Here’s the situation. We are under the rule of a criminal conspiracy that has 23 million people on the payroll. That includes ALL of the officially authoritative positions, so don’t think for a heartbeat that the “Law” is going to save you. They wrote the book in the first place, and have final say on what it means.

    That government kicked their ball rolling with an ocean-to-ocean genocide, and it’s only gotten worse since then. Do you honestly believe that they are just going to hand it all back to you just because you asked so nicely?

    My genius daughter just said that if I don’t slip the word “moronic” in here someplace then she’s going to stop reading it. There, I did it. I slipped in the word “moronic”. Wasn’t that clever? And I still haven’t called anyone anything.

    #191912
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Those criminal conspirators are going to do everything and anything to protect their own asses because they know for certain that if they don’t then they’re going to have their asses handed to them on a platter.

    Those 23 million criminal conspirators are living the good life at the expense of all of those people that they’re stripping of everything valuable they can get their hands on.

    They are NOT going to just stop, en masse. There remains, of course, that slowly but surely and one-by-one we persuade them individually. Killing your enemy is highly inadvisable, because your “enemy” is a guy just exactly like YOU are every time that you take something good for yourself but at the expense of the person you took it from. Same crime. Different scale. But don’t worry about that discrepancy of scale. One can accomplish the same thing bit-by-bit, a little at a time, like every time you dis-benefitting someone else so that you can benefit yourself.

    #191913
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Sorry about using the impersonal form of the word “you”. It’s just a flaw in the English language that there is no adequate word for the concept of “you, me, them and all of us together”. By “you”, therefore, I mean me too. I don’t get a free pass. Far from it. The only way I’ve ever figured out for finding genuine and accurately described human foibles is to search them out and find them first in myself. What a bastard!

    #191914
    John Day
    Participant

    @DBS: Actually it was a touch of heck, not even purgatory… 😉

    “Yeah, I’m back. Didja miss me? Frankly I don’t know how y’all managed to stagger through the interim. Must have been Hell, but if you think that was bad just imagine how bad it’s going to be now that I’m here again.”

    #191915
    Topcat
    Participant

    LEGO© has released a new “Sanctuary City” Limited Edition Collectors Set of Legos called:

    Winter is Coming

    #191916
    Topcat
    Participant

    @JohnDay

    This seems to be the flow chart for a country masquerading as a hospice.

    #191917
    Topcat
    Participant

    @DBS

    Welcome back Geezer

    Here’s my simplified version of real=world cause & effect

    #191918
    Topcat
    Participant

    Open Borders

    Not so much

    Then or now

    One World Government

    Imagine there’s no countries, it isn’t hard to do…..

    #191919
    Topcat
    Participant

    #191920
    Topcat
    Participant

    #191921

    Dora- Is this the video?

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