Debt Rattle November 29 2025

 

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  • #227317
    Michael Reid
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    Dear citizenx,
    My experience here has been positive. We don’t have all the answers but who does. We have certainly shared and learned together truths.

    Sad thing is that our western culture and education turned out to be lies and deception. Yes much of it has been a fantasy life for me.

    You seem full of anger. I learned here the best thing for you to do is pound sand. Then move forward and try to determine reality and deal with it.

    We all make mistakes. Some mistakes are innocent and some are not.

    Blame without proof is simply bad attitude.

    I wish you well.

    #227366
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @citizenx You are like a breath of fresh air, you opened the window and allowed raw nature to enter the room.

    #227367
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @Michael Reid Did you not see the links that citizenx posted; he brought receipts, open your eyes.

    #227369
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I’ve been posting on this forum for about 12 years. Much water has flowed under the bridge since that first day, and I am very much a changed man from who I was a dozen years ago.

    I make that preceding statement in order to draw attention to the point that you have come to know me (love or hate) as a deep and serious thinker. I earnestly attempt to do that (think deeply and truly) as best I can, with varying success. The point is that I don’t shy away from the Heavy Duty stuff. I go straight at it, to understand it or to die trying.

    The following video is heavy duty stuff, even for the heavy thinkers. Please do not underestimate the importance of the detailed information that the instructor lays down in outline form so that the uninitiated can still understand the gist of what he is telling you.

    In short, you are living inside of a PsyOp in which the efficacy of the actions has been well established standard operating procedure for at least decades and probably longer.

    #227373
    zerosum
    Participant

    I nominate citizenx as the best person to run the world and to lead the sheeps into the light.
    (Trump has better writers than citizenx)

    #227374
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Isn’t it fun to see the USA falling apart everywhere; not just at the seams, but everywhere. I loved the Maduro prank. I think it is a bit early to influence the midterms, given the rate at which Trump is being ordered to kick up dust, but I loved the “military” boasting, as if the USA could do anything like this militarily. Obviously TPTB in the USA used the reliable old USD to buy their PR stunt; I wonder where Maduro will end up, maybe a mansion in Hawaii in the burn zone?

    Do you think that Hegseth will be down a girly bar tonight trying to pull a chick with stories about how he jumped out of a helicopter, onto Maduro, punched his lights out, arrested him for the USA, pulled his USA undies out, put them on a stick and planted that pole in the ground, claiming ownership of Venezuela for the greatest country on earth. Do you think the whore will go for it or do you think he will be thrown out for touching? Maybe he will have to fuck the pimp instead, who knows.

    My guess is that the Maduro prank was a result of the usual paranoia in Washington about encroachment of the Chinese. Never fear guys, the Chinese out number you 5 to 1, so they have enough people to take over your country, not that they would want to. You have already lost, but it is fun watching your best and brightest psychos fight over the scraps. Of course, the Chinese are massively over represented all the decent jobs in the USA, from Intel to Google to everywhere. The US math team only beat China because the US team was 100% Chinese; that was so funny.

    The US knows that the Venezuelans are selling oil licenses to the Chinese, this is getting bigger, the Chinese are therefore becoming more important to Venezuela. The USA psychos feel that they cannot let that happen, the Venezuelans could realise their full potential and overtake the USA, so the USA stamps on the baby baboon incase it cannot be controlled by the big USA baboon.

    I am glad to see that a few people are recognising that the USA’s modus operandi is spookily similar to that of the Zionist controller. Not a surprise, given that Trump is the first Jew POTUS. America has a Jew POTUS who promised to throw out all illegal immigrants and other nasties from white America; hilarious, just plain hilarious as in “are these people for real or are they retards” sort of a way. But it is fun to watch.

    Waiting for the USA to get it’s ass handed to it in Iran; they have done it once in a little way, the next time they will do it big time. As for Putin, he has always played Trump, knowing that Trump is a sucker for very basic flattery. I suspect that is over and that Russia is preparing for a wider war, and China is certainly doing the same, preparing for a wider war, a war they do not want – it interrupts their commerical goals – but sometimes you just have to put down your tools and shoot the retard in the room.

    #227376
    aspnaz
    Participant

    zerosum said

    I nominate citizenx as the best person to run the world and to lead the sheeps into the light.
    (Trump has better writers than citizenx)

    Okay, I agree that Trump has better writers than citizenx, but nominating citizenx to waste his life trying to lead sheep into the light – a fool’s erand if ever there was one – is just plain nasty.

    #227378
    aspnaz
    Participant

    D Benton Smith said

    you are living inside of a PsyOp

    Okay, in the news world, definitely; in the real day to day world, nothing has really changed except for those damned bastards who go out for dinner together and then proceed to read their fucking phones. Then you find that one of them is sitting at your table but you are too polite to scream at them.

    #227382
    aspnaz
    Participant

    https://www.swentr.com/news/630340-musk-republicans-trump-election/

    So Musk gave 290 million to Trump, Ugly Adelson gave 200 million to Trump. Both are Zionists but Ugly got everthing she wanted and Musk was just dumped, not in reality, but in this act of the theatre play.

    Makes you wonder where that 290 million from Musk really came from, it obviously was not from Musk. Either that or Trump is such a dedicated Jew that he considers shabbos goyim money – such as that loaned by Jews to Musk – to be more valuable than Jew money.

    Musk is such a fraud, I would love to hear the true story of the people backing him and how they promoted him as their front man, it would make interesting reading, especially their reach into government that gave Musk so many grants and so much credit.

    In the mean time, Musk will continue to try to establish himself as an independently wealthy person by conning his shareholders to join his share ponzi scheme; they are rabid Musk soybois, so they will take the bait, but to me it looks like Musk trying to escape his shackles. Paying him a trillion bucks to raise the share price? The people who voted for this really are retards.

    #227384
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Ah, @aspnaz. Long time no see (for which I am grateful). Glad to see that you have dropped the mask and feel free to openly delight and revel in our suffering. I always did say that’s who you were, and I much prefer the current version because at least I know who I’m talking to and how they really feel about my feelings.

    #227385
    Dr. D
    Participant

    $100 drop in Gold. Not in minutes, a session, but over short time. And this is no problem.

    Silver, much less, and that’s in keeping with the Gold:Silver ratio compressing. From 100 sometimes to 60 now?

    Annoyed with Maduro, and so would start impeachment so he can explain this in enormous legal detail. Nope. Here’s the problem, and the reality: the friendly party isn’t going to impeach their own leader, that’s a lot to ask. The Democrats love war and death anywhere it’s possible. It excites and elates them, so they love it too. Legally, is it supportable? To me, No, however to THEM, any modern reading the answer is YES. Congress abdicated essentially ALL in 2001 to the Executive, a thing we all screamed bloody murder about then and the screaming is still ringing in the air today. However, SINCE Congress did that (or they’d have a small-plane crash or an envelope of anthrax arrive from Ft. Deitrick) that power is legally, arguably still with the President. That’s the “War on Terror” “War on Drugs” War on whoever-we-feel-like that the GLOBALISTS, the CIA themselves set up. Because they thought they’d never lose. That SHE, would never lose. Now that same power is turned on them, like eg. unlimited, unasked wiretaps on every CIA device of Merkel and the WEF in Europe. We’re reading, listening to everything. And all Comey’s mail too. They know it all. And to me, its all illegal, but equally illegal. Maduro is not more illegal than Snowden, than RussiaGate, etc.

    So IF anyone gave a s—t and impeached for astonishing overreach, he would just point back to Congress themselves. The End. In Schrodinger’s evil we PRETEND all day both are true. We both did and didn’t do this, it hasn’t been the Reality all along but there’s no “Schrodinger’s anything”. REALITY exists in only ONE state: We did. They did. And now would be a great time for Congress to pull that power back to themselves which only they can do. But they are cowards, selfish, corrupt, and compromised, and they won’t, they will complain and do nothing instead

    …WHICH IS WHY THEY ABDICATED TO THE EXECUTIVE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    And yes, that’s how you get Caesar, who is a “Dictator” in the Latin sense. No. The country ends in that case.

    Anyway, moving on, so we did this, how bad and evil of us. Uh, no. WE did not get Maduro. His own people SOLD HIM OUT. At the moment Venezuela is still being run by the Venezuelans, the VP I presume. And?

    So what really happened here? Suppose “We” flip all of them, put in “A friendly government”. And? And if Exxon drills and Venezuela is better and richer than before, than they are presently, I’m supposed to say that’s a BAD thing? …Here’s the problem: I can’t prove that, and while Exxon’s and our behavior may have been okay way back in the 1900s and 1930s, has been unsupportable for lifetimes, since 1949 at least. So we have no record of behaving well. Second, it doesn’t matter: it ain’t our business and we have no jurisdiction to tell them anything. That’s the legal side, I’m just pointing out the practical. If Ven booms overnight like Argentina has, I’m supposed to be mad we have LESS drug dealers, saved 1M opioid deaths, Chavez can’t by Congress off to betray us, China isn’t loading ICBMS in bases there? No. I am not mad. Account for ALL the consequences here.

    Like: Venezuela’s GENERALS chose to remove Maduro. THEY boxed him up and handed it to us, with deniability. That’s why zero air defense and perfect safety. THEY, the “Venezuelans” chose this. And the consequence of us shutting off oil? China is whacked. Oh, so U.S. Win, right? No. China becomes dependent on RUSSIA. It’s a RUSSIA win. Trump’s going to take a black eye, in a way, so although yes, in a certain way it’s a practical victory of our stability, the real winners are elsewhere. RUSSIA is one.

    Now COULD Maduro have won? Yes. He would have had to choose a REAL Chinese or Russian backer. They would have chosen Wagner and S400s and been unassailable. But Maduro would have to get with the program and not go rogue, with the Globalists, CIA, etc. Order instead of Chaos. Even Friday he could have done this. In fact, they acted the second the Chinese left, which may be that they knew – because they told us – where he was located. So this ended because we found him and the clock ran out. But up ‘til a minute ago he could have been a full protectorate of Putin. He did not. So he, or Ven, is now a “Full protectorate of the U.S.” …In a way. Remains to be seen. As I said, we’ve done NOTHING, it is run by Venezuelans completely, same as if Maduro had a toothache.

    But I think it all stinks, and the thing most annoying to me is the Right which have lost their minds in triumphalism. “No one was killed” Oh yes, that’s impressive, and apparently all our “Bombing” was mere distraction, cover for the Team, as was the whole build up, hiding the extraction team in the clutter of thousands of jets and ships moving around. However, they mean no AMERICANS were killed. IDGAF about that. If you killed ANY Venezuelans, that is inappropriate and even illegal (legality above, and international law, complicated, but no). They don’t even care, it doesn’t occur to them. So they’re laughing about it online like the gruesome Democrats did bombing American children in Yemen coffee shops until they ran out of bombs. Well it sure occurs to me, sir.

    Now I can MAKE A CASE we can do this. It might even be illegal, but we have a loophole, blah blah, but the point here is, they don’t even bother to make a case. I wanted it, it’s Our Side, so we did it. No. You do not. GFY. And also indicates not taking this seriously. So several more reasons there to impeach and make them 1) Make their case, any case at last 2) Take it with the appropriate seriousness.

    And that’s why you never let anyone have power, and reduce and constrain their power as much as possible. Which is the approach only of the Right. So if we had no army, no budget, and could only act with express discussion of Congress, none of this would have happened. Now do you want to re-install those barriers that were in Day 1, First Federal Law, called “The Constitution” now? I do. That’s what we stand for.

    ‘Nuff said, we’re watching it play out, and nothing I’m saying here is going to be heard by the Right atm.

    The world also only PRETENDS to care. They actually don’t and will do nothing. I mean, they’ve got a total genocide going on and won’t lift a finger, what the difference of removing one drug-running douchebag?

    “France says US actions in Venezuela contradict international law”

    FRANCE is talking about International Law? Hahahahahaha! I didn’t know France thought international law existed, it certainly doesn’t apply to them.

    Trumptard can indict the Maduros….
    But he won’t indict Fauci, or the Biden Crime Family, or Epstein clients”

    Absolutely. So we have both court and police jurisdiction in Caracas but not Chappaqua, NY? GFY.

    Venezuelas Vice President might not take the country in the direction the United States wished for.”

    And that direction was to invade their neighbors for their oil. Which is what we stopped. Now SHOULD we stop it, have jurisdiction and the right to? Answer. But that’s the fact.

    “Epstein waiting on DerpFakes” Yes, as everyone said in 2016, on the Q boards. Aaaaand we got there. They all seem deeply invested in the Post-Truth reality. But without Truth everything dissolves, especially prosperity.

    “With respect to [Russian inability of] power projection,
    Russia could project a Burevestnik to rid the area of criminal activity”

    And always could, nothing’s changed. So can we. That’s not what they mean, but it would be lengthy and tedious to describe why it’s relevant. Maybe it would be worthwhile, but it’s time consuming. They’re hand-waving at a real fact.

    Dan Davis: I guess that’s false too, because it “Was said online” “By an American” and “Expert”. It appears they were not “Large scale attacks” even less than Iran, which was hit by nothing. It was all flash-bang. Remains to be seen, sadly no one seems to care, although I do.

    Taking our eyes off Ukraine, although there doesn’t seem to be much there. They are going to hand NATO parts from the Putin drones on the desk at the UN. The U.S. CAN then, cut off NATO further should we wish to. I think we will, so it will “Backfire” again. Remains to be seen, but that’s my guess. WHO is this? Europe, I’m getting bored with saying it. TO continue the war and kill peace from breaking out. Again. I’m tired of saying it, they’re stupid and boring.

    What are they actually moving in speedboats and oil tankers that won’t board and paint new flags every few hours? Again for months now, this makes no sense. Our call is we shouldn’t be boarding them and asking, asking questions is evil. Go the other way: WHY wouldn’t you just be boarded? What’s on them? That no one can name it is getting pretty suspicious. Lanci is wondering if it’s silver, and naming it would cause a run on silver market, but although that’s at least some reasons, I can’t see that being plausible. If I were a fisherman smuggling – hey maybe I don’t even know what cargo – I’d just let them board and the cartel has to take the hit. They are not.

    “The Fed funds rate sits at 3.5% to 3.75%. Markets expect it around 3.0% by December 2027.
    That pricing is completely divorced from fiscal reality.”

    Right after saying the silver price can just move 10% and that’s normal market price discovery. Or as I say, Nvidia and Tesla. ALL pricing is divorced from reality. That happens the moment you have a central bank, which is WHY they make central banks: to rig prices. We are Post-Capitalism, Anti-Capitalism and have been for decades, since 2001 at least, but you can pick 1913, 1971, 1994 or whenever.

    However, he’s only looking at the U.S. That WE are bad. No, we are BETTER than a lot of the others, who suck and are more corrupt than even we are, impossible as it may be to believe. Money is going to go IN to US and Treasuries. Incredible as that is. And are, that’s how Dow, and thus Nvidia got so high. Because China’s closed and Europe is collapsing.

    “If the US seize Chinese owned assets inside Venezuela, how long before Chinese seize US owned assets inside China ?”

    Are you kidding me? They long since did, decades ago, and in 100 different ways. Starting with copyright, then corporate intel theft. When companies found China didn’t work and tried to leave (they were so idiotic they got there in the first place, watched everything be stolen, but then wouldn’t reverse because of raw ego) China prevented them from leaving. So what do you mean? This is why Soros went nuts on them in public and China laughed in his face.

    No Raul again, another month. No one received contact information I guess.

    #227386
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/trump-declares-war-on-brics
    Trump Declares War on BRICS
    Attacks Venezuela – Arrests Maduro.
    Dr. Rob Campbell
    Jan 03, 2026

    This is so big I couldn’t wait until Friday and wanted to create a forum for discussion. Many of us were hoping against hope that it wouldn’t happen but it has. It seems as if this is a declaration of war which must receive a strong and effective response from the emerging MPWO. If such a response is not forthcoming, many, including Cubans, will be fearful of similar regime changes. I will update this when more news comes in.

    #227394
    zerosum
    Participant

    “No one was killed”

    they mean no AMERICANS were killed. IDGAF about that. If you killed ANY Venezuelans, that is inappropriate and even illegal (legality above, and international law, complicated, but no). They don’t even care.
    ( the confirmed toll stands at 40 Venezuelans killed so far, but the situation remains fluid and numbers could change as more details surface.
    https://www.deccanherald.com/world/at-least-40-people-including-civilians-in-venezuela-killed-in-us-attack-3850946 )

    #227396
    zerosum
    Participant


    Mandura is the first leader arrested.
    Who will be next leader arrested?
    From Israel, From Ukraine, From China, From US?

    #227402
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    What country in the world agrees with the notion that it is okay for foreign persons to enter a country without permission, murder FORTY innocent persons, kidnap two government officials, and then LEAVE without accountability for any of the many crimes committed in that operation?

    #227408
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention that after committing all of those heinous crimes in full view of the world the perpetrators then advertise the fact by means of a long and humiliating public trial and imprisonment of the two officials that got snatched.

    #227409
    zerosum
    Participant

    Live to fight another day

    #227410
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    All of the American Blob’s adversaries are now saying to themselves, “I think those Yanks would do the same thing to me that they just did to Maduro if they thought that they could get away with it.”

    #227411
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @zerosum

    That day may have arrived.

    #227412

    They say they want transparency.
    I think that you will find
    They WILL not see, apparently:
    Their hatred makes them blind.

    As long as smoke is coming out their ears
    They’ll be diverted, wasting time on jeers.
    And things will plug along without their say,
    And they’ll stay useless, safe outside the fray.

    #227413
    zerosum
    Participant

    Another day
    https://x.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1988937942933598578

    María Corina Machado, the far-right US-backed Venezuelan coup leader who won the Nobel Peace Prize, promised a “massive privatization” if Trump can put her in power.

    She vowed to sell off $1.7 TRILLION of Venezuela’s oil, gas, gold, infrastructure, etc. to US corporations.

    #227414
    zerosum
    Participant

    $1.7 TRILLION would improve the living standard of many lives in Venezuela.

    #227415
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #227417
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Russia and China listen up
    Diplomacy with the U.S. is pointless

    #227418
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #227419
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    A real estate New York mobster at work

    #227420
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    This is about survival as free people and not as slaves

    #227421
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #227422
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #227423
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    “The biggest drug trafficker is the CIA”

    #227424
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Can’t watch any more. Apparently “the American government is a criminal enterprise “

    #227425
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    Western ZOG puppets are merely a reflection of their jew masters. Lie, steal and murder. This should be evident to any Westerner by now. JFK, the Liberty, 911, Goyim should have woke the fuck up, but they did’nt. If the jewjabclotshot hasn’t woken you up, you’re a goner, good as dead.

    #227426
    tboc
    Participant

    26 and 13 week T-Bill auction Monday
    6 week T-Bill Auction Tuesday
    total offering amount-$238 Billion
    Issue Date – Thursday 1/8/2026

    #227427

    We cannot know until we look and when we look we set the thing in stone.
    That cat is dead in any case- it’s stuck inside that box, and all alone.

    #227428
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #227431
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #227433
    Michael Reid
    Participant
    #227434
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #227435
    zerosum
    Participant

    TRAITORS

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/freeland-ukraine-economic-advisor-9.7033382

    Ukraine’s Zelenskyy says he’s appointed Chrystia Freeland as an economic adviser
    Freeland has long been one of Canada’s most vocal opponents of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine
    CBC News · Posted: Jan 05, 2026 2:26 AM PST | Last Updated: 1 hour ago

    Prime Minister Mark Carney asked her to serve as Canada’s new special representative for the reconstruction of Ukraine.

    Carney in late December announced a $2.5 billion package of loans and debt suspension for Ukraine. It brought Canada’s total commitment to Ukraine in military, humanitarian and economic assistance since Russia’s 2022 invasion to $22 billion.

    Freeland, who has Ukrainian Banderovite nazi ancestry, was Canada’s deputy prime minister between 2019 and 2024. She is a serving lawmaker in the Canadian parliament, and is also Ottawa’s special envoy to Ukraine.
    —————-
    Canadian politicians support attack on Venezuela

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/venezuela-us-cuba-attack-9.7033299

    Cuba says 32 of its officers were killed in U.S. raid on Venezuela
    Cuban personnel were in Venezuela at the request of Caracas: state TV
    The Associated Press · Posted: Jan 04, 2026 6:44 PM PST | Last Updated: 10 hours ago

    An American military operation in Venezuela killed 32 Cuban officers over the weekend, the Cuban government said Sunday in the first official acknowledgement of the deaths.

    The Cuban military and police officers were on a mission the Caribbean country’s military was carrying out at the request of Venezuela’s government, according to a statement read on Cuban state TV on Sunday night.

    What the Cubans were working on in the South American nation was unclear, but Cuba is a close ally of Venezuela’s government, and has sent military and police forces to assist in operations for years.

    “You know, a lot of Cubans were killed yesterday,” U.S. President Donald Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One as he flew Sunday night from Florida back to Washington. “There was a lot of death on the other side. No death on our side.”

    ————-

    #227436
    Michael Reid
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