Debt Rattle November 29 2025

I agree with Dr. Day on his synopsis above. But no surprise, that’s what we come here each day to hammer out.

“Watch: TikToker Hands Out Vodka, Machetes To Mentally Ill And Homeless

It’s all organic tho. People are naturally bad. Save the Earth and all the humans by killing the earth and all the humans.

“Rubio, Witkoff Meet With Ukraine Negotiators In Miami To Discuss Plans To End War

Russia says these are definitive trilateral talks. No one else matters (Europe). Putin says he is heartily in favor although much work needs to be done.

“Indiana GOP state senator says he will vote no on redistricting push after Trump used slur”
“Guy Pearce Apologizes for Sharing ‘Misinformation and Falsehoods’ About Israel on Social Media”

Kneel before Zod. The important point is they are still doing leverage and think it needs to and can be applied.

Same as above, the news is that it’s in the news. Who’s blakcmailing NYT now?
“NYT Torches Tim Walz After Somalians Scam Woke Minnesota For $1 Billion ‘On His Watch’

Much as I think gold should be $1M and the USD $0, this chart is too high:
https://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=GC&p=m&r=max
It’s not a Log scale, so it’s deceptive, (pro feature) measuring last time and this time cup-handle is $1k-$2K. 100%. Now it’s $2k – $4K, 100%. Maybe we won’t know if it goes to $10,000 but there’d have to be a 25% correction and 2 year consolidation here or something. You can’t just double in a couple months and nothing. I’ll look back at 1979 but that’s a literal one-time outlier.

Note: this also DOUBLES China and Russia’s “power”. What for Canada with zero gold, all sold to Brown’s Bottom? Halved? Or infinity lower? LBMA keeps getting drained, world keeps not caring.

Dow-Gold went to 6 but has been as low as 1. It is presently 12. So the Dow could be 20k. Meh. In the muddle here.
https://www.macrotrends.net/1378/dow-to-gold-ratio-100-year-historical-chart

But roughly speaking, all humans want low commodity prices, so given any chance they will conspire to suppress them and as enough is never enough, eventually low enough to ruin basic production. …Including every farmer on God’s earth, then every town farmers ever lived in. Causing starvation and desperation Cities don’t care about and think is funny. They then rob all the warehouses, close all the grain elevators and any other slack in the system in the name of ‘Efficiency” to keep prices low and not have to stop the lies and violence against producers. (note parallels to workers)

Then eventually the system tips and “Suddenly” they find (after 30-60 years) that Lo! There is no corn in the grainery! All the treasure chests that should be full are empty! All the mines that should work are dry and have one rotted out pulley wheel at the top! Who knew??? Except everyone who stole, and their Father’s fathers who stole, and everyone who’s been shouting all their lives like Farmers, and their father’s farmers before them.

So then there is a RISE in prices, which is suppressed brutally as well, but the logic of the system means all humans now realize to insure supply they need to hoard. …And hoarding is profitable as well as prices are rising. At this point it is only putting the corn in a grainery that should have been there all along, but as prices rise, speculators enter and start a mania. Government then flips as the profit-makers and Senator-buyers now WANT high prices, who cares what the masses want low prices? Let them hoard and speculate too! Eventually it’s so profitable that any garden well has a miner on top hoping for some ore in the granite, and there’s adequate supply. The mania crashes, leaving an over-large infrastructure that gets wasted and sold off, melted down. …Which is why you shouldn’t allow manias, but work very moderately. Also the main winners aren’t miners or their CEOs, but speculators and paid Senators. By then regular corporate stocks are low, their input costs are dropping, and are the better buy.

You are on this curve. (Somewhere).

“the US “does not tolerate left-leaning governments… and as soon as they see a government that is considered to be left-of-center they move to replace that government.”…

What does that statement even mean? And are you muddying Soviet-rivalry era with post 1999 era? They seem remarkably different. And if so, does that explain why the U.S. — now a Socialist state — is busy toppling itself lately? Then Russia is NOT a Left-state, but they hate those far MORE, like Hungary. Maybe this is shorthand for “The U.S. is always trying to topple all governments, everywhere, all the time.” Cheeto just pardoned Honduras, which seemed to be clearly railroaded for our LAST frame-up job. That would seem to be the direct Opposite. I see nothing, re-examine this again.

Quayle is interesting as he gets info that is good, then literally nothing he said ever comes true. I think they leak to him on misdirection same as Owens. IF Trump is actually in alliance and talking to Russia and China – Extremely. Likely. — Then like I said, them sending S500s is a move he coordinated and prompted WITH that pressure. As he puts pressure on them to talk and come under an umbrella – theirs or ours, don’t care – and therefore expel the Derp State cartels. It is awfully hard to prove this though. Even that Maduro asked for retirement – good move – and Trump said no, pick a side. That would support the cooperation theory sort of, but we don’t know that actually happened. That’s the info environment we’re in right now.

“Trump says he will cancel all Biden orders ‘signed by autopen’”

Headline is a zero. Trump is un-Executive order the Executive orders? Uh, yeah? Because he’s the executive, he can do that. That’s what “President” means, since John Adams, although it’s hard to get a Judge to say “If Congress can pass a law they can unpass it” if the Judge happens to LIKE the law, and it’s Obama’s order, then no they can’t, the Judge is President then. No.

…What they’re not SAYING, but are MEANING (Trial balloon) is that he will undo ALL autopen items. Like Supreme Court Justices. And Congressional Laws. Now THAT is disputed. But note it’s not technically what was said. Sigh.

Maybe you can tell us of you guess your original sight problems the other month were probably the same infarction. It’s hard to imagine otherwise.

https://www.kunstler.com/p/a-modest-proposal

Ilargi, I am super relieved to hear you are doing well, take care of yourself, thx for keeping the site open, me and hundreds of others are on your side…

China is not a Communist Country

This is worth looking at when considering Venezuela. It is Elizabeth Nickson’s comments on election theft.

Thanks MPSK, for the Elizabeth Nickson “Absurdistan” piece about electronic vote rigging, originating with source code developed in Venezuela, and still used, which lets votes be adjusted remotely during the tabulation process, in ways that shift dynamically with the votes coming in, and which are very hard to trace. I am suspicious of the political one-sidedness of it, and the source being US Intel. proessionals.

“According to Emerald Robinson and Patrick Bryne who has spent $20,000,000 funding the research on election theft, the Trump team stopped the steal in 2024, by raiding the building in Serbia where Hauwai servers work on shifting votes. The Trump team is apparently aware of all these connections and working towards ending their dominance.
No other country is aware.”

Welcome back !!

Welcome back toTAE.

I must be the last one to notice that you are back.
Let us know if the med work.

Ugo Bardi, 8/24/2015, reflects on bureaucratic response to existential crisis: The Limits to Growth in the Soviet Union and in Russia: the story of a failure
Above, you can see the full recording of a 2012 lecture given in Moscow by Dennis Meadows; one of the authors of “The Limits to Growth” report of 1972. It is long, more than an hour, but – if you don’t have the time to watch all of it – I suggest that you go to minute 21 and watch Dennis Meadows showing this book… It is titled “Soviet Union and Russia in the global system.” According to Meadows, in the 1980s, Viktor Gelovani, first author of the book, adapted to the Soviet Union the world model used for “The Limits to Growth” and he ran it; finding that the Soviet Union was going to collapse. Then, Meadows says “he went to the leadership of the country and he said, ‘my forecast shows that you don’t have any possibility. You have to change your policies.’ And the leader said, ‘no, we have another possibility: you can change your forecast'” https://cassandralegacy.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-limits-to-growth-in-soviet-union.html

“Could be considered” does not negate the Law of War: NATO must be ‘more aggressive’ towards Russia – top commander
The head of the bloc’s military committee says member states are studying “proactive” actions against Moscow
NATO members should find ways to be more aggressive towards Russia, the US-led bloc’s top military chief has said.
Admiral Giuseppe Cavo Dragone, chair of the NATO Military Committee, told the Financial Times in an interview published on Sunday that member states have been weighing options to respond to what he described as Russia’s “hybrid war.”
“We are studying everything … being more aggressive or being proactive instead of reactive is something that we are thinking about,” Dragone said.
The commander added that a “pre-emptive strike” could be considered a “defensive action,” though it would be “further away from our normal way of thinking and behavior.” https://www.rt.com/news/628704-nato-more-aggressive-actions/

Russian shipping is vulnerable to (NATO?) attacks: Shadow Fleet Crisis Deepens: Third Tanker Incident off Senegal Follows Black Sea Drone Strikes https://gcaptain.com/shadow-fleet-crisis-deepens-third-tanker-incident-off-senegal-follows-black-sea-drone-strikes/

Moscow Paper Claims Ukrainian Drones Hit Russia-Linked Oil Tanker Off West Africa https://www.zerohedge.com/military/moscow-paper-claims-ukrainian-drones-hit-russia-linked-oil-tanker-west-africa

Holding elections quickly and giving up Donbas to Russia were pushed by the US: Witkoff Heads To Moscow With Revised Ukraine Peace Plan After Tense Miami Meeting Focused On Borders https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/witkoff-heads-moscow-revised-ukraine-peace-plan-after-tense-miami-meeting-focused

Private Chinese company rolls out Mach 7 hypersonic missile at nearly 90% lower cost
With autonomous guidance, evasive manoeuvres, and planned AI swarm capability, China’s new hypersonic missile program shifts the balance in the global arms race. https://interestingengineering.com/military/low-cost-hypersonic-missile-china

From Russia; “Geography is Destiny”: Why the world won’t see the US decline
Experts have long concluded that any country’s geographic location is a limiting factor in strategic decisions. Considering that the Mississippi River basin has the longest shipping lanes in the world, it becomes clear that this very factor provides the United States with a colossal advantage in the form of vast quantities of food and extremely low-cost logistics…
..Glaciers of the last ice age carved deep canyons along the east coast, which became ready-made deep-water ports.
These ice-free ports became ideal bases for naval forces. The fleet was able to sail unhindered from European harbors and easily find berth in the natural deepwater ports of North America.
The Louisiana Purchase finally transformed the United States into a superpower. The Mississippi River basin is the best agricultural area in the world. Furthermore, this area is connected by a network of calm, navigable rivers. Most importantly, this entire system flows into the protected Gulf of Mexico.
All this provides the United States with direct access from the center of the country to the world’s oceans, while simultaneously providing a powerful defense system. Nearly 5,000 kilometers separate the United States from Europe and more than 7,000 kilometers from Asia.
This vast water barrier is a key reason why the United States is the only developed country that has not experienced large-scale destruction and subsequent recovery over the past 150 years.
As scholars note, the four main geopolitical competitors of the United States simply lack the geographic power that the United States possesses. https://en.topcor.ru/66464-pochemu-mir-ne-dozhdetsja-upadka-ssha.html

EU commissioner says her journey to Gaza via Rafah crossing not granted by Israel
Hadja Lahbib says Israel’s refusal to grant permission ‘deeply saddened us’ because she wanted to see see situation in Gaza ‘firsthand’ https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/eu-commissioner-says-her-journey-to-gaza-via-rafah-crossing-not-granted-by-israel/3757229

4 foreign activists injured by illegal Israeli settlers’ attack in occupied West Bank
Three Italian and one Canadian activists were injured by illegal Israeli settlers in Ein ad-Duyuk village of Jericho in the central West Bank, local sources told Anadolu.
The activists were hospitalized, as three of them sustained moderate injuries and the fourth was critically wounded.
Illegal settlers stormed a house in a Bedouin community where the foreign activists have been residing in solidarity with Palestinian residents for a few days, and assaulted them.
The attackers also attempted to steal the activists’ passports, phones, and belongings, in addition to property from the house, the sources said. https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/4-foreign-activists-injured-by-illegal-israeli-settlers-attack-in-occupied-west-bank/3757959

(Some humans at) Google Worried It Couldn’t Control How Israel Uses Project Nimbus, Files Reveal
Internal Google documents show that the tech giant feared it wouldn’t be able to monitor how Israel might use its technology to harm Palestinians. https://theintercept.com/2025/05/12/google-nimbus-israel-military-ai-human-rights/

Israel detains dozens of Palestinians every week in occupied West Bank: Palestinian Prisoners Society
‘Hundreds of Palestinians are detained almost every week, subjected to field interrogations, and exposed to ill-treatment. Most are released after a few hours or a few days,’ says group https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-detains-dozens-of-palestinians-every-week-in-occupied-west-bank-palestinian-prisoners-society/3757222

Over 350 Palestinians killed in Israeli attacks in Gaza since ceasefire, authorities say – Gaza’s Government Media Office documents 591 Israeli violations of ceasefire https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/over-350-palestinians-killed-in-israeli-attacks-in-gaza-since-ceasefire-authorities-say/3758178

Israeli Human Rights Groups Tell UN That Israel Increased Use of Torture During Gaza War https://israelpalestinenews.org/israeli-human-rights-groups-tell-un-that-israel-increased-use-of-torture-during-gaza-war/

Ben-Gvir Promotes Officer Whose Soldiers Shot Dead Surrendered Palestinians
A day after Border Police officers shot two Palestinians dead after they had raised their hands, National Security Minister Ben-Gvir visited their unit’s base to ‘strengthen and hug heroic fighters’ and announce the promotion of their commander https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-11-30/ty-article/.premium/ben-gvir-promotes-officer-whose-soldiers-shot-dead-surrendered-palestinians/0000019a-d1a3-d824-ad9e-fbffe65b0000

U.S. Finances Major Surge in Production of Israel’s Iron Dome Air Defences https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/us-finances-surge-iron-dome

Martin Armstrong expresses a novel opinion that the Fed was great until wartime demands made it swap corporate debt for Federal government debt. The Federal Reserve became active in November 1914, whereas WW-1 had started in July 1914. The US officially entered the war in April 1917, but vast funding had already been extended. When was this golden-age again? The Federal Reserve Was Brilliant Until Politics Destroyed It https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/economics/the-federal-reserve-was-brilliant-until-politics-destroyed-it/

“Working homeless”: Retail Workers Currently Earning 51.6% Less Than Needed To Afford Rent: Report https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/retail-workers-currently-earning-516-percent-less-needed-afford-rent-report

Arrests made in New York after protesters appear to foil ICE raid with barricade of bodies and garbage bags
Homeland Security has not confirmed whether a raid had been planned after confrontation on edge of Chinatown https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-new-york-chinatown-raid-b2875026.html

Appeals Court Rules Alina Habba Unlawfully Serving As US Attorney For New Jersey
A three-judge panel for the US Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit said in a unanimous order that a lower court correctly disqualified Habba, who previously served as Trump’s personal defense lawyer. In that ruling, US District Judge Matthew Brann (Obama) said that Habba had been serving without lawful authority since the beginning of July, when she was tapped to temporarily lead the US Attorney’s Office in New Jersey. Brann also disqualified her from participating in ongoing cases. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/appeals-court-rules-alina-habba-unlawfully-serving-us-attorney-new-jersey

Elizabeth Nickson rather uncritically reviews a book written about computerized election rigging by a career CIA spook, where all of the bad guys are Democrats, socialists, communists, Cubans and Venezuelans. Conflict of interests? How much is truth and what might be a peppering of black CIA lies?
The Electorate isn’t 50/50; the Real Split is more like 60/40 Center Right. The Steal is On in 72 countries.
The first U.S. election stolen using the following digital tools was Obama/Clinton in Cook County, Illinois’s Primary in 2008. Since then? Everywhere. Ev. Re. Where…
So, who are the men who investigated this crime? The primary is Gary Bernsten, CIA career officer, Station Chief in three Latin American countries, who led counterterrorism deployments including the United States’ response to the 9/11 attacks. He was first on the ground in Afghanistan after 9/11, hunting Taliban and Bin Laden. He was awarded the Distinguished Intelligence Medal in 2000 and the Intelligence Star in 2004. A walking encyclopedia of the players in socialist Latin America.
His writer and fellow researcher is Ralph Pezzulo, with whom Gary wrote the best seller Jawbreaker, about Bernsten’s work as the CIA’s key commander coordinating the fight against the Taliban forces around Kabul.
Their research was methodical and is well founded, its logic and reasoning inescapable. This happened and is happening anywhere machines are used in the voting process.
The authors and investigators behind this book, Stolen Elections, the Takedown of Democracies World Wide. have appeared on several podcasts this month, including Lara Logan last weekend, and Sharyl Attkinson on November 4th. https://elizabethnickson.substack.com/p/the-electorate-isnt-5050-the-real-a46

Vaccine Stocks Drop After FDA Memo Links COVID Shots To Child Deaths​ https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/vaccine-stocks-drop-after-fda-memo-links-covid-shots-childrens-deaths

​I always advised my patients to refuse this vaccine for their newborns. It was never justified. CDC to Nuke Newborn Hepatitis B Vaccine Recommendation?
In an upcoming CDC Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) meeting, the body will take on board the wildly logical case for not injecting one-day-old newborns whose mothers don’t have hepatitis B with a vaccine for the infection they don’t have that almost exclusively results from intravenous drug use and unprotected sex, neither of which are activities newborns typically engage in — activities that, if infants did partake of, would render hepatitis B the least of the concerns.
​ The Advisory Committee will also consider whether injected toxic adjuvants like aluminum contained in the hepatitis B vaccine are beneficial or potentially harmful for infants.​ https://www.globalresearch.ca/cdc-nuke-newborn-hepatitis-b-vaccine-recommendation/5907438

“NEOCONS RUN TRUMP-HERE’S THE EVIDENCE  rumble

Uh, No. If they did, we’d already be in a war. If there were no good guys, we’d already be in a war and a fascist panopticon of Theil or far worse. If they weren’t getting enormous pushback, it would already be happening, so there IS enormous pushback, and Trump isn’t both “Run by the NeoCon” and Pro-Peace with no wars and like 5 peace treaties going on, Ukr being only one. Idiots. Stop and think. Both…Neither….Aiiii.

Like I say, Pick. One. You want to say they HAVE influence, how much, sure, do that, give me your argument we’ll discuss. Or NO influence, go ahead. But he’s not BOTH total nuke Russia Pro-war and ALSO “Ima smack you in the nuts with this yardstick until you sign” Peace. Reality is not “All things” it’s ONE thing. And it’s always in the middle.

Duran is on this, though I’m taking a break from picking on literally everyone on the Right, or Alt for now. Christoforo says “Can’t think of a single reason Trump doesn’t have peace” Like the U.S. OWNS Ukr, they are our proxy, like we own and run a theme park. If we want them to sign, you just tell them to sign, what’s with the theatrics? So this is OBVIOUSLY idiotic or foot-dragging, and Trump is a deceiving moron. AlexM mostly agrees.

Really? You can’t think of a SINGLE reason Trump can’t sign peace? Because you didn’t bother, couldn’t be arsed to apply your mind for two seconds? How about: Trump says he runs the whole thing, Ukraine has no reality, is nothing but our 51st vassal state, an adopted Delaware, and Trump then surrenders unconditionally to Russia and hands Ukraine to Putin out to the Polish border. See any problems with that plan, Alex? Any obstacles? Hey, would that be a “Reason”, even taking the darkest, dumbest view? Why yes it is! But that wouldn’t allow him to Hate Trump, Hate America, and have the emotion of being smarter than everyone, telling Trump and Putin what they know in Top Secret discussions and what to do.

That was the other, on this line, “WHYYYY does Witkoff fly on to Moscow when he has nothing … NOTHING to talk about there???” Geez, Alex, so amazing you’re in every boardroom and know exactly what they’re discussing in sooper-secret, even as JUST YESTERDAY you didn’t know they had worked out a 28-Point plan since Alaska, and said nothing but Trump was dumb, lazy, betrayed Russia, and planned to attack them by nuking Moscow. But then the next day we found out they WERE talking all along IN SECRET, and Putin appears to approve of the plan as far as it’s a frame work that moves forward at last. Huh. But here we are a day later and nothing happens in secret again, the Alexanders know all.

C’mon! You’re smart guys, how can you do this? OBVIOUSLY 1) Trump is not involved since it’s not his war, he’s only been there 10 months. 2) Obviously he is trying to end it, by surrendering or whatever, don’t care, but IS doing something while everyone does nothing as 2M are killed. 3) The United States as a whole is not the only one in Ukraine, not Europe as we see $100B flying around through Estonia as the only cash holding up the whole continent, banking, finance, industry, politics. They are more deeply invested and leveraged than even WE are, at $150B. That’s really saying something! Starmer says he will give infinity money for infinity time even if every British citizen dies trying. What is their yearly input, like 10% GDP? That’s not “The United States is running Ukraine solo” sir.

Where is Ze, or Zu? In LONDON. Not NY, not DC. Where are the troops trained? In EUROPE, Poland, not Ft Bragg. Where’s the biggest plan? Finland has set up 1,000 mile border, ‘cuz fences and walls work now, and is bankrupting their country aggressively planning to attack Russia, crazy as that sounds. Germany has openly murdered every opposition political candidate to keep the war going. Sounds like they’re sort of involved. So NO Trump can’t “Just Order” Ukraine to sign. And that’s ABOVE that they will use it to remove Trump from the table, saying he’s a Putin-puppet. So he HAS to present as a third party, and you think Putin isn’t aware of all this? So if Putin isn’t fooled, what’s the dif?

Europe is trying to spend 10% GDP to have a land war invasion in 2027, but isn’t able to get it through yet. So if Trump “Just leaves” that solves nothing AND they will remove him for surrendering. They just attack and nuke Belgorod, we have no leverage or visibility, no bases there then. So he pretends he’s a neutral third party and makes them play along, TO get a Peace Plan out and FORCE them to discuss it, like rubbing a dog’s nose in the mess. This is to get it out in front of the European people who were not allowed to discuss or think it, lest they be actively arrested, and many were. Or shot, as with AfD.

But the Alexanders “Can think of no possible reason”. Welp! Sounds like we just have to nuke Moscow tomorrow then! All other alternatives are exhausted! The only other option is surrender and we can’t do that! …Man, straight out of MI6 when you guys are supposed to be the OPPOSITION to war and MI6. Knock it off. And these facts I’m telling you about Trump’s international and domestic pressure against Peace or Russian appeasement? I got all that info FROM YOU. So you know it. Yeah, but I HAVE to say this because seeing Trump lose is emotionally satisfying for me personally and it’s all I can think about from the time I open my eyes til bed. Da fuq? Don who?

This is like fighting Covid all over again. I got the docs, the advice, the death stats, FROM YOU, the CDC. But when I post and repeat YOUR WORDS suddenly they’re not real again.

“France & UK Still Insist On Sending Troops To Ukraine, In Effort To Sabotage Trump Peace Plan”

That’s what you’ve got? No. The Plan, like John Wick, was to fight all Russia with no Army. And China too. Yeah, that didn’t work out so well.

“Russia Proclaims Final Victory Over Key City Of Pokrovsk”

28 Point framework says Russia won’t interfere on the river. …Which means they own to the river. Here you go.

““Working homeless”: Retail Workers Currently Earning 51.6% Less Than Needed To Afford Rent”

If only the population dropped by 20M wages could rise. Houses would drop to 3x incomes. Oh well, the party of the Workers would never do that. Luongo crew are deeply on “How England does things” Which IS to force-migrate citizens willy-nilly to cause problems. Gandhi was one of them, if you remember, in Britain called South Africa, from Britain called “India”, of which Queen was Empress. This did indeed cause endless problems in S.A. for 1,000 years that means we can extract Platinum at cost and control the nation, while it’s no longer peaceful and pastoral. They did this to THEMSELVES, on purpose, in Zimbabwe, and continue super-glad for it, also killing every British white guy there. Now, fast-forward to UK and Canada, where they’ve doubled the population overnight with “British” Indians, Pakistanis, which were considered an issue in the 80s and 90s at 1/50th of today’s level. And were. Like there were enough jobs in Canada for them even in 1980? You ever heard of the Maritimes? Nope! Jobs are for Immigrants, Scotia just has to go on the dole. Toronto gets the gold, Halifax get the shaft.

So their point is, THEY don’t want to say it, have avoided saying it, BUT…If you don’t re-migrate, expel these people you’ll have 1,000 year war here. Ethnic, religious, whatever. Then the U.S. is not “One” people which was a huge advantage, but African tribe enclaves, fighting while Theil sits above and rules. Screw that.

I have the same question about how to communicate this obvious fact.

“Zohran defenders say he’s not a real socialist, just a democratic socialist, the type who likes the Swedish model. Then why do democratic socialists share quotes from Marx and Lenin and Mao and wave the hammer and sickle rather than quote Swedish leaders and wave their flag?” Rob Henderson