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    Pablo Picasso Portrait of Daniel-Henry Kahnweiler 1910   • UK Care Workers Leave En Masse After Being Told To Get Vax Or Quit (RT) • Israel Virus
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle September 5 2021]

    Dr. D

    “the industry is now desperately calling on the government to end its mandatory vaccination policy for care workers, warning that a “catastrophe” is on the horizon.”

    They don’t care that people die, they just don’t want to be blamed for it. Liable. And this may end it, as government does whatever corporations say. But now we have the nursing home industry fighting the pharma industry, and I can guess who wins. Because one gets billions directly from government and monopoly.

    “feel totally undervalued” / “the last straw” for many in the industry.”

    From what I hear, this is the true root, and other important industries too. Remember if housing/rent just rose 40% after being squeezed for decades, this is like asking $8/hr again. As Kunstler was saying: We’ve warned you and we’ve had it. Something like warning and being right about Nafta and Most Favored Nation for years, then electing Trump. Can you hear us now?

    Answer was yes and no. They finally “heard”, but they also went insane on the ground, running in circles and shooting everywhere, at shadows, endangering everyone. Because they, the PMC, can’t sit down in a boardroom and say, “Well boys, we did the extensive studies and found our problem: it’s us. So as of now we’ve all fired ourselves and the janitors are in charge.” Nah. Much more fun to shoot randomly at peasants and complain about the nonworking over half-caf soy lattes. There’s only one PMC truism: whatever happens it’s YOUR fault. Susan Sarandon’s fault, with Oprah Winfrey, every other Oscar and Grammy winner and $6B dollars on the other side. Nope! Who knew she was so powerful? Really SHE’S the queenmaker, she’s been running the world this whole time. …Otherwise may it was THEIR fault? As it’s THEIR fault, greed, idiocy, recklessness, fraud this time too?

    Israel Virus Czar Calls To Begin Readying For 4th Vaccine Dose (ToI) “

    Can’t keep up. Okay, “Only 15 days, 2 years, 2 vaccines, TWO boosters, and two pills a day to lower the curve.” Wait? It’s not been lowered? It’s higher everywhere except the places that did nothing? Okay, NINE boosters then, THEN, I’m totally sure we’ll lower the curve. Trust us. When have we led you wrong?”

    “it’s difficult to say how many children haven’t been infected but it’s probably about half of them, that’s about 6 million children”

    And that’s YOUR fault. You did that. By helping. You prevented them from getting it, which near-zero die from to save your own sorry -sses. They also did not get exposure to other diseases and their immune system is now exposed to those too. And all the child suicides.

    What’s more fun, they act like Sweden, and for that matter, Denmark, Iceland, Russia don’t exist. Covid: worst = every single place that’s done what they’ve said. Best = every single place that ignored them.

    once 80 per cent of eligible Australians are double jabbed”

    Ugh. Why do you make me bring this up? That’s Deagel’s number. The number dead in the mostly-western world. Now I’ve been crying on about how idiotic, the electric cars, no grid to support them, etc. All these mega corporate plans all work perfectly. Work perfectly if +30% of the population miraculously dies. But VW, Social Security, National Grids had no idea, right? They just pre-positioned years ahead of time against all engineering sense on accident.

    “Grandparents in the east can hold their new grandchild in the west for the first time,”

    They can do that now. YOU are the only one stopping them. Illegally I may add. Oh wait, it’s against the LAW? Hahahahaha. And you can’t buy drugs in Oz either? So now a bunch of pan-handling, house-robbing addicts have more balls than the Australian people? Jesus, what an insult. Every low-life on the island is a better man than you. I guess we’ll see.

    “The problem, of course, is that the third dose will wear off too, so a fourth, fifth or sixth dose will be needed. The vaccinated will be getting boosters for the rest of their lives, and the virus still won’t go away.”

    Sure it will. As soon as you wise up and do nothing. They will get it and have full natural immunity and never need another vaccine. This is their point of pure terror: no profits.

    The main reason for prolonged silence, and introspection, is that I am not sure I can find the truth. I do not know if it can be found anymore. Today I am unsure what represents a fact, and what has simply been made up.”

    Yes. While this may devolve into localization, in this case that is probably not a good thing.

    “For each fact, there is an equal and opposite fact.”

    When this happens, you’ve done something very, very wrong with your culture, and it’s about to collapse and be conquered, just as China and our Derp State has long planned and published.

    “On one side is democracy, on the other is totalitarianism. Pick a side,”

    That’s why I say, “When I choose my side, to allow speech and discussion, what’s the downside? What’s the risk? Yet when YOU pick a side, which involves burning all American cities, people, minorities, dissenters, PhDs, MDs, poor people, children, what happens? Oh that oligarchs and their government apparatchiks get rich? While we grow poor and die? While ending all human rights forever? And this is the side you want to take, the rights you want to support with your life?”

    So it’s very easy because the virus discussion cancels out of the equation, leaving bigger, realer concerns: Life, not death.

    From his earlier, the idea of Covid being a cult, and the only way to break the cult which approaches majority is to let it expose itself, is probably true. …But it’s also the game plan of Trump, Mr. 17, and the only approach that appears to have worked against it even a little since we’ve been warning you and being right constantly since 1954. That, all our words, all the headlines proving us, was nothing. But seeing for yourself finally was something. Sorry it has to be this way then, but that means we need to MAKE them go FURTHER, with mean tweets that make them convulse in a lather and lose their minds 5x a day, while also somehow ring-fencing the important, ultimate areas of concern: Military, nukes, infrastructure, and while a few cities burn and a couple of Jews or patriots are rounded up, beaten and prosecuted, mostly it’s incidental damage in the big picture compared to letting them run. With state’s rights, the counterweight is increasing, and although all is lost, all branches are captured, and there are no good guys out there, yet Cuomo, Newsome, and probably Whitmer are going down, most America-first are unscathed, and Trump is untouched, even everyone he ever talked to is released on non-charges. What is that? Sounds like somebody’s there if you’d just stand up and do the right thing: human rights and rules.

    It’s what he says here: YOU made it so nothing would work but PAIN. That the only way you and your family would leave the cult, the mind control, is if things got SO CRAZY, crazy beyond all belief, beyond all history, beyond all reason, that finally, finally, something would break through and develop roots of reason and contact again. Mr. Roboto knows how suck this is, as did much of the nation the year before in Trump/Bernie rebellion. It’s progressed so far Wolf and Bill Maher are on board.

    And yet, there is still a tiny 10% or something, of mostly PMCs in Blue cities that are too well-paid and well-trained to rouse. They’ve been suck-ups to teacher since birth, and some people are like that. They shattered the culture way back to provide fodder, so lacking a community, the cult is their family, the cult is their identity, classic arrangement from boring, predictable people. (The social engineers, not necessarily us) While we’re still working tirelessly, at constant, unceasing aggravation and personal cost and risk to reach a few more neighbors and countrymen, yet I’m sure time is still running out.

    But the cult, exposed, out in the open, with appalling, irrational, violent, bullying behavior, is the only thing that will or has worked. And that has been the plan going on many years now, at least 6 but probably 60. And we’ll still love you and take you in. You’re welcome.

    “China” banning girly men and promoting patriotic songs, sounds like they’re tooling up to a war. As well-known way back.

    “Healthy” 40 year old? Open mouth: lie came out. This is CNN.

    Hey anybody seen Bosco lately or is he another new person again?

    Polder Dweller

    The Kendrick piece is depressing, it sounds very much like serious pressure is being exerted on him, so he has to curtail his writings on C19. It might even be worthwhile reading the article more closely as it feels as if there might be something written between the lines.

    Mister Roboto

    WRT Israel, “fourth jabs”: I still want to know what sorts of reactions people had to the third jabs? Was it worse than the infamously harsh second jab?

    The CNN article simply has to be satire. If it isn’t, then our entire media-complex should be ushered into an assisted-living facility for severely mentally-retarded people.

    Dr. D

    From CJ Hopkins yesterday:

    “more and more people have come to see it for what it is, not “insanity” or “an overreaction,” but, in fact, a new form of totalitarianism, a globalized, pathologized, depoliticized form, which is being systematically implemented under the guise of “protecting the public health.”
    In order to oppose this new form of totalitarianism, we need to understand how it both resembles and differs from earlier totalitarian systems. The similarities are fairly obvious — the suspension of constitutional rights, governments ruling by decree, official propaganda, public loyalty rituals, the outlawing of political opposition, censorship, social segregation, goon squads terrorizing the public, and so on

    So, as written by them decades ago, they will use “public health” as the cause, just as Germany did “public safety” committees. And roving brownshirted gangs. Bo-ring. Yawn. No imagination. Same playbook of Germany and Russia, 100 years old. Good thing nobody reads history, but especially the University Left or they’d recognize it.

    “Public loyalty rituals”. Yes, and this is how it’s easy to identify a psychological, unscientific scam. So doctors who know masks don’t work, after not working once in two years, are REQUIRING masks that don’t work. Yes, but WHY? To identify and separate the obedient suck-ups vs the free thinkers, and make one group kill the other. THAT’S the purpose. Not health. Obviously. Same reason Mafia boss has to sleep with your wife. Because antagonizing you and you being helpless proves he’s got you under complete control and obedience. In this case, locking your kids in closets in Toronto until they shoot themselves. Full support! Good show old chum!

    “It just doesn’t matter, because you do not get to dictate “reality.” Global capitalism gets to dictate “reality,”

    This is just the point. “Truth” is now an expression of nothing but power. That’s the strict, largest takeaway from “1984.” “How many fingers do you see?” That’s the only interest here, CLEARLY, or you would let doctors speak and prescribe in the normal, traditional fashion. That’s why social media is the key, because Technocracy is the digital expression of Bernays’ mind control.

    ““The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. …In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.”
    ― Edward Bernays, Propaganda

    He then also warned that propaganda will work ONLY until you tell open lies, contradictions, or were radically opposed to the people. As this technology has worked endlessly and seamlessly for 100 years, they cannot seem to recognize its limits, thankfully for us and all humankind.

    “You do not do that by being polite, conciliatory, or avoiding conflict. You do that by generating as much internal conflict within the cult as you can.” And it is indeed the internal contradictions that are waking people up. Pro-Islam, Anti-Jew semitism, noted among feminists, in NYC, home of that power and culture. Knock-down, drag out death match of Feminists vs women over trans. Like we need to stop white supremacist Larry Elder and vote in a Black Governor like Newsome. And even those things barely register.

    “see it, feel it, tangibly, inescapably, until they recognize what they are collaborating with. Stop arguing with them on their terms, and instead directly attack their “reality.”

    This is related to what I do by being offensive, but only just offensive enough. Being offensive enough makes you sputter, “But but…” and THEN! They have to THINK to create a rebuttal. Not that worried about what it is, SEEING the contradiction and engaging in it with debate is enough. They might continue, sure, but that’s their right. I only break the spell and make the choice visible.

    However, it has to engage in FEELING. Not just “because,” but because the technology works on the feeling humans, hijacks their honest caring and good will to evil ends. That’s one of the divides of “Left-Right” (such as it exists at all) and is indeed one of the weaknesses of the Right. However, being mental, not emotional, male, and not female as it were, they are more resistant to this particular, Bernays’, method of hijacking and mental terrorism. What the Right can’t get through is that they need to engage with and make the Left FEEL, because feeling and exposure is antithetical to their nature, and forcing/using it on others is also considered immoral to them.

    However, that has been the plan, pushed hard for at least for at least 5 years, but also the Right’s plan as set out in “Atlas Shrugged”, probably followed by Greenspan, Reagan, Paul, etc and the vanishingly few non-RINOs. It’s INCREDIBLY, interminably, annoying, but it does seem to be going okay, and about July last, they made the switch to let Joe show them some more and perhaps stop the civil unrest altogether. Is it working? What is “working”? In a war all plans are terrible or it wouldn’t be a war, but some plans less than others. Did allowing Covid to run but with vaccines break their Narrative? I certainly appears it did.

    Doc Robinson

    • Vaccine Voodoo (Rickards)
    “When one accounts for the 38 million Americans who have survived COVID and already have antibodies, then herd immunity is already here.”

    Only 38 million? The CDC says there were 120.2 million estimated total Covid infections in the US, through May 2021.
    (Updated July 27, 2021)


    I don’t have any trouble at all seeing how Kendrick got to where he is. With all the vested interests, political machinations and misinformation, I am pretty much in exactly the same place as Kendrick. There is no institution at this point that will be given both the resources and liberty to conduct “semi-unbiased” research on the issue. Covid has also laid bare the limits to scientific research which have always existed, but went on steroids under covid. Calls to “follow the science”, as if there is some ultimate monolithic answer to be found thru science, were shown to be naive. Science is still the cleanest dirty shirt, but it still has limits as it is applied by humanoids.
    Interesting to see China’s turning away from some aspects of capitalism (eg financial speculation on residential real estate). Linking to the article on climate lockdowns, I see a parallel. Are we on the cusp of a move away from a capitalism-centred world?

    Mister Roboto

    Well, I just finished reading the Julius Ruechel “snake oil” piece, and it really is a horse-pill of an article. (See, I can make horsey-funnies, too, {ar-ar-ar}!) I have my doubts that the right-libertarian formula he prescribes at the very end is the panacea he imagines it is, but he diagnoses where we are in this very dysfunctional Covid-drama better than nearly anybody I have read dealing with the issue so far.

    Doc Robinson

    • I Have Not Been Silenced (Malcolm Kendrick)
    “For each fact, there is an equal and opposite fact.”

    Then one approach could be to present some of their own facts, front and center, their inconvenient facts which they try to talk around but cannot deny.

    The safety and effectiveness of COMIRNATY in individuals younger than 16 years of age have not been established.

    Available data on COMIRNATY administered to pregnant women are insufficient to inform vaccine-associated risks in pregnancy.

    It is not known whether COMIRNATY is excreted in human milk. Data are not available to assess the effects of COMIRNATY on the breastfed infant or on milk production/excretion.

    — FDA package insert for COMIRNATY

    The overall risk of COVID-19 to pregnant women is low.

    — Mayo Clinic


    Mister Roboto

    The longer this goes on, the more willing I am to consider this theory making the rounds that our troll is not, in fact, the original “deflationista” from 2012. If the current iteration is a professional troll, they are certainly an artist at constructing a persona for the purpose.

    Mister Roboto

    At any rate, it’s always useful to keep in mind that you never really know with whom you’re actually interacting online unless it’s someone you also know IRL.

    those darned kids

    mr. roboto: you can find the large lady, cindy vela, on youtube. the real story is so sad.

    oxy: from the climate lockdown: “Under a “climate lockdown,” governments would limit private-vehicle use, ban consumption of red meat, and impose extreme energy-saving measures, while fossil-fuel companies would have to stop drilling.”

    hmmmm, i guess i’ve been living under climate lockdown for many years.

    Mister Roboto

    mr. roboto: you can find the large lady, cindy vela, on youtube. the real story is so sad.

    And CNN is enabling this narrative, are they? As of this day, I resolve to cease being surprised by any and all bark-at-the-freaking-moon madness I might see from our august mainstream media in the future, and I expect folks here to hold me to that!

    those darned kids

    oops, the lady was on a tv show, my 600lb something or other..


    Deflationista is awesome fun though. Like our own little virus, at first it irritates and then it makes you feel sick then you develop life-long immunity.
    Sometimes you get a mild flare-up when it appears and swears at the host.




    those darned kids

    mr. roboto: the vocabulary is different. the writing is different. the attitude is different. it’s not the same person. i found this, too:

    deflationista said…


    I suggest reading everything at Morris Berman’s blog. He suggests getting out of the US. I recommend reading all the comments as well.

    Joe Bageant thought the same way about the US.

    JULY 7, 2011 AT 8:48 PM

    not the same person…

    Mister Roboto

    I can just imagine the look on the original deflationista’s face if they ever came back here and saw someone using their long-neglected TAE account to spout neo-lib propaganda.

    those darned kids

    CNN article was fake. Anyone reading it should have immediately suspected it was satire.

    Polder Dweller



    deflationista referenced one paper. (He is lying by omission)
    There are other papers, + 60, which he forgot. There are other countries that are using ivermectin.
    (Kory and other FLCCCA members)
    The drug ivermectin, scientists in Argentina announced last year, prevented 100% of COVID-19 infections.
    (other papers do not claim 100%
    Look below the headlines)

    In an interview, Carvallo said he supports vaccines and that he himself is immunized. “What I want for ivermectin is to be considered as another possibility among the repurposed drugs. Not the best one, not the only one, just another one,” he said from Buenos Aires province. “And not to be considered a challenge to vaccines. That would be stupid because they are different.”

    Carvallo, who has written a handful of papers about ivermectin’s COVID-fighting potential over the last year, has publicly voiced his enthusiasm alongside Kory and other FLCCCA members.
    There is a lot of good data being covered up by misleading propaganda

    Mister Roboto

    CNN article was fake. Anyone reading it should have immediately suspected it was satire.

    In normal times, certainly. Unfortunately we now live what we may well call “the Age of Poe’s Law”.

    a kullervo

    • China’s Marxist “Profound Revolution” Is Here (Every)

    Authoritarianism ⇒ Healthier society
    “freedom” ⇒ Decadence

    … what a shocker.

    Healthier lifestyles need to be imposed top-down.
    (… what a surprise: what else can the populace do with free will other than to become overweight, dumber and generally obnoxious?)


    Perhaps this paper on Peru will bring Dr Kendrick out of a short lived truth drought.
    “During mass IVM treatments in Peru, excess deaths fell by a mean of 74% over 30 days in its ten states with the most extensive treatments. Reductions in deaths correlated with the extent of IVM distributions in all 25 states with p < 0.002. Sharp reductions in morbidity using IVM were also observed in two animal models, of SARS-CoV-2 and a related betacoronavirus. The indicated biological mechanism of IVM, competitive binding with SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, is likely non-epitope specific, possibly yielding full efficacy against emerging viral mutant strains. “

    Ivermectin on/off in Peru by state

    those darned kids

    i believe our age should be called the “chemocene”.


    Mister Roboto:

    “The CNN article simply has to be satire. If it isn’t, then our entire media-complex should be ushered into an assisted-living facility for severely mentally-retarded people.”

    Even though it is satire, our media should still be ushered into an assisted-living facility for severely mentally-retarded people. Shame we didn’t take that action after media figures showing their tentacle porn habits and zoom masturbation to a wide audience.


    << , that’s a lot of children who will be infected and that will be a lot of disruption to schools in the coming months.”>>

    No, it isn’t the infections that will cause a lot of disruptions in the schools, it is the mandatory quarantines required of the unvaccinated children. “Reality” causes school disruptions, while true reality, if observed, would cause no more disruptions than do the average colds and flus.

    My 3 kids just completed their fourth week of school. (Yes, schools start early in Phoenix, AZ.). I the third week, one son was exposed to a student with Covid. The result: essentially, a one week suspension that wasn’t his fault. (And for a week I became his Spanish and geometry teacher.). The fourth week the other son narrowly missed a Covid exposure…in art class for the rest of the week he sat at his desk, and all the students immediately around him were not at school — quarantined. But the vaxxed aren’t required to quarantine, per the cdc, and I can see where this leads: pressure to vax students so that they don’t have to quarantine when exposed. But…we don’t need any of this “reality.” We could go back to true reality and treat Covid like any other minor respiratory illness.

    I find myself hoping that the vaxxed students will start obviously passing Covid to one another because they are not required to quarantine so that we can see how stupid this situation is. However, not keeping my hopes up because the infection is simply too mild in most cases, especially with teens.

    I am trying to chart a course where I balance fighting “reality” with my commitments to my children.
    – my daughter is depressed, but talks with me. She insists on masking in stores, etc., and sometimes asks me to as well when she is with me. My relationship with my troubled daughter is more important than fighting “reality”…but it rankles me. I am contemplating ignoring the mask mandate when I am in her school’s office — but is that a good idea? I need the school people to see me in a positive light, to take what I say about my daughter seriously, and I know that her father will put me down to others and try to win them to his side against me. He did this in the past, and the legal fight that ensued has me deeply in debt. Of course, it is also possible that the school staff agrees with me about the district’s illegal mask mandate (violates Arizona law), can’t afford to defy it, because they need the income and may appreciate my open defiance.
    – I am self-employed, which means that my income is largely tied to the relationships that I establish with clients. The upshot: no one can mandate that I be vaxxed. The downside: no one is obligated to engage my services. Fortunately, at least half of my work was remotely done before the start of the pandemic. I find when on-site that I am a chameleon, masking or not as preferred by the client. I have three children that depend on me to provide life’s necessaries. I can’t afford to jeopardize my income.


    Re sumac.carol “ Are we on the cusp of a move away from a capitalism-centred world”

    I hope so…but I would hope that it leads to something that is an improvement on capitalism, leading to more freedom, rather than less. The TPTB seem to have other ideas in mind. (Neo-feudalism?)


    “ Economist journalists updated their a model of the true death toll of the pandemic”
    Because they needed to show that the pandemic caused more deaths in India and Russia than in the virtuous Western countries. That way the “facts” support the official narrative (“reality.”)


    Re Cindy Vela meme
    “ The claim is an example of “stolen satire,” in which made-up claims published and labeled as satire are captured via screenshot and reposted in a way that makes them appear to be legitimate news. As a result, readers of the second-generation post are misled, as was the case here.”

    Yet it was widely shared and believed on both sides.


    I Have Not Been Silenced (Malcolm Kendrick) “For each fact, there is an equal and opposite fact.”
    I’d suggest that while there is certainly plenty of opposite information, I disagree about calling all of it “facts” and I disagree that there is equality in the information. Yes, there are studies that suggest ivermectin is helpful for Covid and studies that suggest that it is not. That doesn’t mean that the studies are equivalent.


    Okay, that’s weird, I had the italics around Mr. Roboto’s quote, yet the reverse shows.

    Maybe a browser issue?



    Polder Dweller

    My search abilities hit a wall. Can You supply link,


    REAL live mask expert weighs in at school board meeting in Grandville (I don’t know where that is) on Aug 19, 2021.

    She is an occupational hygienist — apparently this is the profession that actually studies and advises this stuff, and the profession is being side-stepped during this covidian madness.


    “Under a “climate lockdown,” governments would limit private-vehicle use, ban consumption of red meat, and impose extreme energy-saving measures, while fossil-fuel companies would have to stop drilling.”

    That actually sounds good to me.



    Your comment about your children brought tears to my eyes


    CNN article was fake. Anyone reading it should have immediately suspected it was satire.

    Why do you think I put it at the top of the Debt Rattle yesterday?

    John Day

    I posit that Nuevo-Deflationista is AI, or at least mostly-AI.

    : No link for that Peru data and Google says it’s not on the internet.
    I saw it when it was fresh last year. It’s good. Can you post a link?

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