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  • in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197933
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    Why these weird 180 degree inversion anecdotal pronouncements?

    If the best thing for promoting or defending socialism is to lie exactly opposite of reality, how good could socialism possibly be?

    Remember when you inverted communism as preserving classical music when in actual fact they were suppressing it to the point of censors watching for properly socialist INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC and people judged to be making “reactionary” melodies, harmonies, or god knows what… then off to the gulag?

    Not to mention the subconscious implication that somehow, the classical music “preserved” wasn’t in thousands of music libraries, being studied in thousands of conservatories across the West. Like, just because you can go to a library and read Marx OR Mises OR any number of other folk does not mean you are living in a dark age as compared to a library where you can only read Marx.

    6 million dead in Holodomor alone. Where the incompetence, materialist forward-thinking socialist management, and oppression of farmers didn’t kill, it was selling the harvest abroad. But surely they killed 6 million FOR “the people” which is so much better than killing for being an ethnicity, right?

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197932
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    Historically, Socialism tends to screw their own population to sell the country’s products for cash to capitalist countries due to how superior Socialism is. The first one that springs to mind is USSR tobacco – citizens smoked tobacco stems, the actual tobacco went abroad.

    But more important are the numerous times Socialism has sold FOOD abroad while starving their farmers that were making the food.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197899
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    3I/ATLAS:

    -5 miles long (approximately)
    -comes from interstellar space
    -is decelerating
    -the pure nickel detected without iron or other alloys tends to only exist as a result of industrial processes for things like shipbuilding
    -has a “reverse tail” that “points towards the sun instead of away from it” by which scientists are left “completely baffled” (have we heard that one before?)
    -has “companion objects” going along with it at the same speed (they decelerated together?)
    -electromagnetic radiation appears to be passing between Atlas and these other objects
    -will pass close by Mars

    I only hope scientists can figure out these totally separate anomalies like reverse-facing plume and deceleration.

    As it passes close to Mars, if it were directed to alter course, it could use it to slingshot.

    If course altered, it could be made to rendezvous with Jupiter with relatively little energy expenditure.

    The Jovian system is the obvious place to go for aliens – lots of different types of resources there, the most and largest moons, for starters, plenty of water. For example, Ganymede has an atmosphere, a magnetosphere, and oceans.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197898
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    I just realized with points 1-5 I recreated what Ayn Rand has to say in Atlas Shrugged (using 1,213 less pages to do so…) which gives me a huge headache – please for the love of god, stop making Ayn Rand right. It’s the worst, the absolute worst when that happens.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197897
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    holy crap, stop with the socialism nonsense.
    you’re enemies are playing you so well…

    Always the same mime act gets trotted out – Cosmic Coincidence, one only needs to Free One’s Mind if you need to be freed from negative thoughts about socialism – THEN your’e being played.

    Cosmic Coincidence, with 4 years to Free Minds going the other way, nothing ever.

    1. Pretending to not understand
    2. Pretending to forget
    3. Arguing things they themselves do not believe
    4. Accusing decent victims of awfulness – a strategy dependent on charity from one’s moral superiors
    5. Sheer repetition – double triple quadruple down

    Are you seeing ANYTHING that merits TALKING WITH a leftist here? Anything at all that makes it worth ones’ time or energy?

    A normal human being would do something like:

    1. Actually, it’s right to only Free One’s Mind when it comes to criticizing the Left because _____
    2. I didn’t act one sided, here’s all the same amount of time and virtual ink I encouraged PRO leftists to free their minds also
    3. Let me demonstrate through my actions NOW that my behavior is not one-sided.

    So I say this for anyone styling themselves a moderate that is reading.

    There is only doubling down. There is no one to talk to. “moderates” thinking there needs to be compromise or discussion, you need a partner, a good faith actor on the other side and there is nobody home.

    Talking? Compromise? “Unity?” “Coming together?” What are you hoping for and how the hell are you hoping for it? Free your mind.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197880
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    Oh fine then have it your way
    https://preview.redd.it/president-trump-showed-off-models-of-an-independence-arch-v0-4pclw7jurivf1.jpeg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=d94aabd6f3160fa236348731f956e87d3629bc3e

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197878
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    You might WANT the culture to not think any pride in itself is appropriate – ono! a triumphal arch breaking the norms we told you you had to have – and certainly that has been the goal and the continual message lo these past 70 years.

    I get it. I mean, I’m unmoved, but I get it

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197875
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    It must have looked like London during the Blitz over Germany with all those witches converging on them via broom no doubt.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197871
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    that link I gave was interesting in terms of how power dynamics can play out, a good companion piece but here’s the one I was thinking of

    …showing how “shared responsibility” becomes tyranny while hierarchy avoids tyranny

    https://youtu.be/ju42hzy5J1c?si=L2bwNFhsZlxvNkRq&t=866

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197869
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    The two wings on one side of the airplane – they’re the same – only seems to come up when the Left is losing. Cosmic Coincidence.

    Remembering of course that the Left’s strategy when losing is – “we must criticize everything” – just pour universal solvent, universal corrosive continually on everything until SOMETHING breaks that gives us an edge.

    If accusing the Right of being the Left helps fight the Right, so be it. If claiming the white house is being knocked down in captions of pictures where you can clearly see the white house not being knocked down with your own eyes, so be it.

    Still seeing articles on places like Zerohedge saying “they really believe these things,” projecting the author’s own basic human decency – they look at absurdity and think, well, they’re so effusive, they’re going off the rails so much, I guess it is because they are so sincere. Only way they can model themselves going off the rails in similar fashion because anything else would be too stressful, unendurable.

    But it is actually far MORE psychologically endurable to have ZERO personal investment in what is being said. If your beliefs are never spoken, never up for question, and your task is simply to use a repetitive strategy that includes some theatrics, you can do it without that psychological anguish the Right imagines until the end of time.

    99% of Leftist “discourse” or “argument” is
    1. Pretending to not understand
    2. Pretending to forget
    3. Arguing things they themselves do not believe
    4. Accusing decent victims of awfulness

    (relying entirely on their charity – their civility, their generosity, their benefit of the doubt – their victim must always be better than them. The people that aren’t better are the ones that get conscripted rather than attacked)

    essentially a toxic feminine strategy — the claim of “shared accountability” is super educational. When held accountable for a thing, begin the long speech about “it takes two” and “50/50” and “you do what I do so I have just as much dirt on you, so give up” and somehow you’ll never ever get around to the specific thing that started the conversation

    he has to build to it but the “shared responsibility” dynamic is really interesting applied to other larger contexts.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TQYAkT01ZE

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197868
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    https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:mdncdhqx4qymzqv5nvgmlwqu/bafkreidayoyvtxqijzrutnowhxfwhd4f3lpbrulpnmepyxgsyska5fsv5m@jpeg

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197867
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    White House’s East Wing before it was demolished and replaced in 1942.

    Why do Democrats hate FDR so much?

    Worse than the Bataan Death March

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/ac55c7bebadc2bc936b5383a1fc638f9d35bb441/0_0_640_479/master/640.jpg?width=1900&dpr=1&s=none&crop=none

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197819
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    Leftist – FAR Leftist – ideas have permeated the West. They have obviously captured the institutions. The messaging of their beliefs has been ubiquitous, massive yammering, bad enough decades ago, incessant today.

    Outrage and “don’t get fooled by he paradigm” looks MIGHTY suspicious when all the outrage is in response to one individual messaging sometimes while, for 5 years of absolute maximum ubiquitous screaming of Leftism from every orofice gets ZERO outrage, ZERO – “don’t believe any of that left stuff, free your mind.

    Right after Charlie Kirk was murdered (or the Right leveraged a leftist murder attempt and whisked him off to an island…) the left went full-tilt that BOTH SIDES must be equally to blame, or it would be wrong to be PARTISAN, or we really need compromise, or oh these right-left paradigms are illusion.

    Which has been a paralyzing meme-weapon for many years, stopping the West’s natural antibodies from functioning.

    What a non surprise to see multiple people here doing exactly that. One person not liking Leftism – how gauche, how annoying, how unenlightened, how offensive, etc…. position it as The Ick as much as possible while submitting no actual ideas for dispute. Language as weapon not communication.

    And the ubiquitous obsessive firehose of leftism from every medium – no outrage. No “seeing through it” to the Real Reality. Zero enlightenment as regards all the Frankfurt School stuff being mainstream for the past half decade. Even a few messages on one side -how dare you. Niagara Falls of messaging for years on the other side – “nothing is happening”

    You have zero morals because all you have is Pragmatism. And when met with the pragmatic, you don’t know what to do, because all your strategies were, in the end, dependent on the assumption that your opponents are your moral superiors.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197795
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    How do you like your Pragmatism™ now?

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197794
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    Yes, it IS weird how scatalogical Leftists can be.

    Nationalist Socialist Hitler with his sexual scat fetish. Leftists in California adoring poop in the streets. Leftist love for creating shitholes. Legend has it Stalin used a secret laboratory to analyze Mao’s excrement. Sort of Oroborous-ish leftist scatology there. Lenin wanted to build public lavoratories with gold. Marx used scatalogical attacks on rival leftists in his polemics such as Heroes of the Exile.

    It’s no surprise you were reduced to flinging poo as a response.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197792
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    It figures that, shown the most glorious basketball ever played, your first response is jealousy and resentment. Damn those heiresses. That’s the Leftist response when invited to take joy in witnessing greatness, but you’re not a leftist. Possibly. Just really against being against leftism.

    Leftists can’t understand that Jokic makes the heiresses existence irrelevant. Daniel Martin by John Fowles, the scene in Egypt – the british tourist thinks the american is foolish, naive because he admires the ENGINEERING – “how’d those guys DO that?” and is blind to the realpolitic of Ramses — but the American is right. Ramses, his pride, his heir-ish-ness, his propaganda, was never the thing deserving admiration – the American recognizes the accomplishment correctly to the point of the irrelevant being invisible to him, He’s just happy to be here in Egypt witnessing greatness.

    So we live with aristocrats not getting in the way all the time – by decision or negligence – things occasionally facilitated by them maintaining the appropriate institutions – and everything truly great, anything memorable, bears out in actual reality.

    Free your mind

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197791
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    I get it.

    Your’e not a Leftist, you’re just a super duper militant obsessed anti-ANTI-leftist.

    Nobody would see any pattern to your posts because (to Leftists) pattern recognition – noticing– is The Unforgivable Sin.

    It is educational how much the losing in this particular respect gets to you.

    Power is SUPPOSED to be exercised. The Constitution is a People’s attempt to express the underlying upstream culture’s values in terms of expression of, exercise of, power.

    I get that you find this most icky, wuss. But then it would be The Ick if you hate the tree despite loving the fruit or at least depending on the fruit for your existence.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197784
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    ice is for YOU not THEM. alligator alcatraz is for YOU not THEM.

    I get it. You don’t like power being exercised for non Leftist purpose because ratchet only go one way

    Don’t care anymore about your wounded sensibilities when you lose.

    Just like your fear of losing that 3/5 ratio boost to your federal power to impose centralized power on the states, you don’t like losing those illegal votes that are moving themselves back across the border from law enforcement or the anticipation of law enforcement.

    cry harder and continue to lose.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197783
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    You forgot…

    Leftist.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197781
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    just the assists.

    Jokic, not in charge, running things? yes? no? a general? No. just a humble servant? impossible to detangle. Everything is magically better when he plays. He is somehow aware of EVERYTHING whether he is looking at it or not, decides, makes things happen solely on his own judgment (arrogance? surely not), surrenders accomplishment to his teammates. Ridiculous. Greater than LeBron, Jordan, or Bird? JOY on his teammate’s faces, even from the bench.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WetOYfJ1fGM

    This is the upstream culture. There is no way to kill the tree and then live off the fruit. Even if you are not a sports person I defy you to not experience joy along with the drama playing out with Jokic, the reason we love sports that we forgot.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197777
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    The NBA gambling thing. At LATOC (Life After The Oil Crash), there was a lot about complex systems collapsing – it’s the COMPLEXITY!

    Computers are complex. But automation increases efficiency. Something feels wrong about blaming complexity.

    Look at the army of the Roman Republic vs late Empire. The Republic had infantry, infantry, and infantry, plus auxiliaries handling that cavalry stuff mostly. But the infantry was well-drilled, could do any formation or maneuver. Caesar said 1 german could beat 1 roman most of the time, but 10 romans could beat 100 germans.

    Late empire armies were far, far more sophisticated. Combined arms warfare of their time. Specialist groups, well-developed. Sophisticated combat doctrines for their implementation. There are books on combat doctrine that remain from ancient times. (but mostly, they found just delaying for negotiations a week while practicing standard Roman sanitation while the enemy did not tended to win most conflicts)

    Things become centralized. You need INDIVIDUAL virtue to make things work because people at each level of the commonwealth – the commonwealth that exists in a nation, a bureaucracy, a hierarchy – but the centralizers centralize BECAUSE they distrust individuals. The Roman empire lost its VIRTUE and tried to make it up with sophisticated doctrine.

    They try to substitute processes for individuals. But individuals are intimately acquainted with those processes in ways the centralizers are not. They pipe up, make suggestions, object to irrationalities, “ruin” the centralizer’s scene. They need individual virtue AND they hate it.

    (with AI, the dream, to finally not depend on demanding non-exercise of personal virtue from fellow humans while secretly depending on its continued secretive, rebellious exercise. Damn it, these people are still sizing things up, judging for themselves, making a decision, and acting on that decision! Don’t they know that’s WRONG?)

    But it is really the accumulation of fraud. Of gaming the system for gain within the game.

    The only way to beat this is to push power, responsibility, and accountability DOWN the hierarchy. IN a culture that values doing things right. So that most of the people that are empowered naturally make it work, naturally see and solve problems for you without you asking, without you having to worry or think about it. Because it pleases these “little people” to do so. (noooo)

    Once the culture is corrupt, once gaming the system for gain is the point, the centralizers adapt to THAT system. The “little people” who object are getting in the way, ruining things. The fish rots from the head down, and fraud, graft, system-gaming becomes the system. Basketball can’t just be basketball. Everything is “leveraged” for something else, even non directly power related things. Basketball. Star Wars. D&D. Knitting.

    This is the best thing I have seen in ages. What a human being, sizing up a situation for themselves and acting can do. Just heartwarming and hilarious. Ridiculous even. Glorious. One man just making everything better.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QXHCP-E1eE

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197776
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    Charlie Kirk put himself in the highest-likelihood environment and activity to get killed by a Leftist gunman. ..gunperson. gun… gunzehr?

    How do you bring people back from impenetrable solipsistic immoral insanity?

    Do you need to bring EVERYONE back, or just those who are reachable? Does that leave the remainder relatively harmless?

    Maybe you rub their noses in it. Maybe you make it so bad that the extremists lose their own people AND their more “moderate” support. (the ones who, consciously or unconsciously, nod along, say “but they had a point,” still vote for insanity, speak up for insanity, even while being “moderate”)

    So looking at Charlie Kirk’s entire arc, this looks like a really fantastic effort at excorcism.

    Since they knew the assassin was coming at some point, stochastically, they could plan for it.

    I imagine a blood squib under makeup/prosthetic TRIGGERED BYTHE AUDIO OF A GUNSHOT would be ideal. There would be a risk that the assassin would, on their first shot, connect – but they could quietly catch the good shots and let a bad shot make an attempt.

    Or if you got a guitly quasi-patsy to go so far but no farther… the guy is up there on a roof but is having second thoughts, be ready to have someone else take a shot. Sorry bro. You went this far — we’re using you.

    And of course the main thing is the aftermath – the disgusting reaction from all the organs of the Blob and and all its obedient Leftist anacho-corporatist-marxist-statist followers.

    Whatever is left of America is being peeled apart from this entity, and from the Charlie Kirk reaction to the recent subway killing to Cracker Barrel to the shutdown (for unlimited medical care for illegals), the Left is showing itself to be petty, spiteful, deranged, not here to help at all.

    I feel like there ought to be a better method for exorcism, I just cannot think of one. Anyone capable of being exorcised will, after Charlie Kirk, BE exorcised.

    The ones that are left need the Dostoevsky treatment Raskolnikov got – which was actually very simple. Exercise, sunlight, not being cooped up somewhere with no human contact, contact with basically normal humans, interaction with physical reality instead of abstractions, some protein, an absence of mind influencing chemicals, and time.

    They don’t need so much to be counter-broken as have the breaking influences removed and have time to heal. Then we’ll be left with the permanently broken. If they are implacable, what is to be done? They won’t be a political force, but tragedies will play out in their wake continually as a natural course of their existence.

    The crazies are picketing with signs saying “Fund Medicare not ICE”

    Sirs, no. Fund ICE more and Medicare will be saved.

    Some demonic part of them KNOWS the fuckery of “Fund medicare not ICE” is the destruction of Medicare, translating down into the suffering of millions of individual humans, each with their own concerns, loves, troubles, hopes, responsibilities, stories. I feel like something in them knows.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197775
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    They’re bringing AI to our call center in November.

    The system will listen to the entire call, continuously suggest helpful process documents, and create notes documenting the conversation/interaction.

    The process documents are WORSE than when I worked for Sprint, which had some concept of identifying criteria and then following steps to resolution for that criteria. With this new employer, the document rambles, saying vaguely truthful things totally disconnected from any A to B process. (female doc owners every time – sorry about the stereotype)

    I’ve had times when I get stuck and have been admonished to “study” Fantastic! Show me the document with the process that I can study to learn it. They have never ever shown me such a thing. They can’t. It doesn’t exist.

    So “study” is actually research. Pull up the 5 most likely documents and the 1-5 documents they reference. Collate the information. Derive, from inference, what steps are required and which are not required and in which order. Find out, after the fact, that occasionally, when a document says something “must” be done, we actually don’t do it at at all and you wasted 90 minutes of your own and the customer’s time wandering a maze trying to obey. (all female doc owners, DEI enthusiast comany – I don’t enjoy thinking this way…)

    If AI can sum up the 5-50 documents requiring lengthy scholarly research and transform it into a coherent process, I am all for it – but it won’t. We all know it won’t. I doubt there will be a permanent record of its hallucinations, so if I do something wrong in obedience to the AI, who will get the blame?

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197746
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    What absolute MORONS the Right are to concede without any fight to the leftists Hitler and The Confederacy somehow being Right.

    So that they wander around for decades going: “Well yeah, my platform is to be only 10% Hitler and 50% Southern Confederacy. Being Right is about Right-sizing your Rightism and having almost too much of it but not too much. My goal is to teeter on the edge of slavery, genocide, conquest, and totalitarianism – you can get on board with that being the perfect place to be, right?”

    Fucking hell. Dancing around inside your opponents’ false premises and acting proud of it, like you’re doing something clever or admirable.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197745
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    A link between Republicans and the Confederacy is the American version of the Big Leftist Lie about far Leftist nationalist SOCIALISTS being “far right.”

    So that the closer you go to Thomas Jefferson, somehow the closer you are to suddenly falling off a cliff into being Hitler. Ye’ve the devil in ye!

    If Leftists want to meatsuit and say “we are the Democrats!”, then when they start making noises about the Confederacy or a “history of racism” LET them be “democrats” and hOlD tHeM 2 tHeIr rOoOoLz.

    Democrats –
    –kept slavery alive
    –expanded slavery
    –demanded wild, draconian pro slavery laws
    –were definitely ANTI states
    –seceded from the union for slavery
    –WERE the Confederacy
    –were the party of Jim Crow
    –were the party of the KKK
    –were the party of segregation
    —–the party of separate drinking fountains
    —–the party of separate bus seats
    —–the party of segregated schools
    –used the power of government to block children from attending school — REPUBLICANS had to send the 101st Airborne to, with bayonets fixed, bodyguard school children to protect them from Democrats.

    Watching Republicans take the Confederacy as their own, at the prompting of Democrats is like watching Bugs Bunny tell Fudd to stand on an X, which he obligingly does, to get crushed by the 20 ton weight.

    Let the Leftists be “Democrats” and then let them own the Confederacy good and hard.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197731
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    The current government shutdown can be seen as analogous to events with the Democrats in the 1800’s

    In movies, it’s more exciting to depict the secession immediately followed by war. But in actual fact, they were still talking. A delegation was sent by the South to negotiate possible secession-reversal. Their main demands:

    –extend the Missouri Compromise line all the way to the Pacific
    –even harsher (how?!?) laws compelling Northern assistance with escaped slaves

    after the Southern arrogant disrespect of State’s Rights for many years (detailed only in part upthread), after the South’s continual efforts to negate States’ Rights through the Federal Government, the Northern states were hardly in a mood to make even MOAR concessions.

    Sorry bro, elections have consequences. (sound familiar?)

    So in the 1800’s, Democrats demanding concessions, #resisting the will of the people, championing immorality while posturing as aristocratic moral superiors, enraged into active opposition even by just the thoughts in their opposites’ heads.

    Specifically, they had a strategy back then of gaining, maintaining, increasing power in congress through a population of non-citizens.

    And what do we have today?

    Democrats demanding control of the Federal government DESPITE election results for the express purpose of using federally funded incentives to bring in unlimited NON citizens to drown out, overwhelm, apply force, to negate the self-determination of citizens.

    The current shutdown is happening because this strategy is non negotiable to them.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197726
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    The US Mail continued to deliver everywhere in the time between secession and war. Mail correspondence was the main method of communication between the opposing parties at this point.

    So there is a written record. You can just fucking read what THEY SAID they were doing.

    Lincoln, writing back and forth with Alexander Stephens asking “why are you guys REALLY doing this” got a reply “we’re doing this because you have the gall to think we are morally wrong”

    Kind of like how the Democrats of today seceded in 2016 – their championed issues being practically everything that is traditionally thought of as morally wrong. Just go through the list. Remember the stuff Republicans now concede, do not even argue about anymore, that was ALSO thought wrong in times past.

    And why do the Democrats rage, #resist, etc? “because you have the gall to think us morally wrong”

    even while saying everyone gets free speech, equal protection under the law, but hey man, I think you’re being immoral — death to you! Democrats. Same as it ever was, if Republicans could just give up the Democrat cope.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197725
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    How Progressives Broke The Constitution And Praised Themselves For It
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/how-progressives-broke-constitution-and-praised-themselves-it

    The typical screed saying Lincoln and the North were Unconstitutional big meanies. Republicans need to stop indulging in the miasmic fantasies of their enemies.

    Start with the simple fact that it was the DEMOCRATS seceding and the REPUBLICANS under a republican president that defeated them. The democrats were miserable lying shits going back to then, even. THINK about what they want you to believe here. Remember who you are and who they are.

    One of the repeated lies is that the North were big meanies disrespecting States by invading and defeating the South. Let’s examine what brought you here:

    1. Declare yourself to be an independent nation
    2. Militarily attack another nation.

    We’re talking about disrespecting the SOUTHERN states. Unless your’e retarded and you meant Indiana but spend all your time implying the deep south and because you can’t construct a coherent argument at all? Nobody disrespected a United States state in Sherman’s march or cutting the Mississippi at Vicksburg, etc. BY YOUR OWN DECLARATION OF BEING A DIFFERENT COUNTRY. Why’d you start a war with a foreign power if you didn’t want one?

    I guess whether you’re a US State with rights or a foreign country depends on whether you think you can dominate by force or discover you cannot do so. Huh.

    Much is made of State’s rights of “self determination” being disrespected. What? When you went to war, you were already your own country.

    Do you mean BEFORE secession????

    Do you mean to tell me the State’s Right of secession was the reason FOR secession? THAT was the right they seceded for? Like how Erik The Viking has to go on pillaging raids to fund the pillaging raids, like that?

    https://youtu.be/sGrDHI0orKE?si=iWrFukr-Qburnebb&t=106

    Wait, but what did the South SAY was their reason for secession? IN THEIR OWN DECLARATIONS?

    1. State’s rights – but which rights?
    2. Property rights – but which property rights?
    3. The right to own human beings as property

    It’s what the Democrats fucking SAID in their own declarations of independence, so why do you, Republican, refuse to believe them? Especially after the Democrats have stopped whinging and coping about being losers in this conflict and have gone on to totally new lies? Why do you repeat their mummified cope?

    What do they mean by “for self determination” if NOT the right to go your own way as a separate country? Could you possibly mean the non sequitur of going your own way WITHIN the USA?

    When West Virginia decided to go their own way, the South howled with outrage. How dare you. I don’t get it, man, clearly the State of West Virginia shouldn’t be bullied around by the centralized federal government of the Southern Confederacy. Don’t you have any principles of sacred States liberty?

    And then Eastern Tennessee wanted the same thing, but geography and force did not favor them, so their right to self-determination was denied by the South. But surely, there is a sacred axiom we must always respect of self-determination?

    The “northern aggression”/”self-determination”/”state’s rights” people always forget every instance of the South (Democrats) opposing self-determination with every fibre of their being.

    The South was continuously denying hundreds of thousands of human beings their self-determination. When a slave escaped, did they shrug their shoulders, “Aw, nothing we can do. They used their self-determination”?

    The South had the additional effrontery of demanding to COUNT their slaves to give the SOUTH federal power to vote things upon the NORTH using SLAVES to increase their power in the House of Representatives. Weird bro, that you want to leverage the slaves whom you deny self-determination to impose federal power against the self determination of other states.

    How did the Southern states respond to the Dredd Scott ruling, legal decisions, and laws that aligned with it? With wild celebration, church bells ringing everywhere.

    It made, not just the Northern states, but EVERY level of government in each Northern states slaves TO the Southern slave system. From the elected governor of the state down to the lowly sherrif of a one-horse town, EVERY person in every level of government had to actively serve the South.

    But that was not far enough. EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING in the North had to be enslaved to the South’s slave system. Despite Slavery being illegal in every part of the North, every single man, woman, and child who so much as gave an escaped slave a crust of bread would have their lives ruined – both via draconian financial ruin and lengthy jail time.

    The rights THEY said they seceded for – state’s rights > property rights > the right to own humans – wasn’t even under threat! The new Republican president, understanding full well that severe bloodshed and destruction were in the offing, pledged to NOT try to abolish slavery where it currently existed but WOULD stop it from expanding further.

    So when the Democrats seceded citing “rights,” they were being disingenuous even regarding THAT “state’s right.”

    They seceded for the EXPANSION of slavery.

    But here’s the stupid thing. All those Western territories they wanted to expand into would end up being part of the NORTH. You’re a separate country now. No more using slaves for voting power to force compromises. No more rolling your eyes and foaming at the mouth threatening TO secede to get concessions – you gave that up. HOW ON EARTH are you going to expand? They aren’t making new land.

    So they HAD to go to war. They seceded for expansion. They’d given up their previous methods for expansion within the Union voluntarily. WTF else do you think their plan could have possibly been? They DIDN’T want to expand, so they freaked out at a president whose sole active hostility to your institution of slavery was that it woudln’t expand???

    What was it “You’re going to block us within the USA from expansion, so we’re going to secede from the USA so we can NOT expand and mind our own business” Really. Are you really that stupid?

    Anyway, you became an independent nation, started a war, and lost it, and now somehow moan and bitch about the war AS an independent nation being disrespectful of states within the union.

    Why on earth own this as Republicans, the ones who won the war and took the South’s slaves away from them? What the FUCK is wrong with you?

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197722
    jb-hb
    Participant

    It’s been kind of interesting lately with Apsnaz4. My opinion on China is much like my opinion on Iran, that they’re the obvious power in their regions, and that working with that fact is way better than continuously trying to fight the power of gravity.

    Nevertheless, when I complain about Leftists in the WEST, Apsnaz4 jumps to their defense AND throws in a defense of China. As if I were criticizing China, possibly a long time critic, when in fact I’ve never had any beef with China. How did you know to defend China in these instances?

    Apsnaz establishes an interesting connection I had not been making.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197687
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Like Tom Lord-Alge ruining music with compression: “…but then I can fix it with even more compression” (a real quote)

    You can always fix inflation from printing, by printing even more and using the printed dollars to bid down the things that inflation drives up.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197619
    jb-hb
    Participant

    i don’t get the left/right nonsense: it’s not 1972.

    That it isn’t 1972 anymore is one of the prompts to understand.

    Leftists just need to depart from all the many places they invaded these past 10 years.

    As soon as I am not receiving abstruse quasi-metaphysical quasi-mystical academic marxist “training” for my JOB, as soon as they vacate my hobbies and interests, stop meatsuiting them, as soon as they vacate the institutions – the libraries, corporations, schools, hospitals, etc.

    As soon as they stop invading and meatsuiting everything, as soon as they depart, they won’t be an issue. As soon as they pledge not to use coercion and lies, but instead use good faith and honesty, as soon as they pledge to submit their views openly for review to honestly CONVINCE people, in other words, as soon as they give up on full spectrum war by any means, lay down their weapons, and rejoin civil society, there won’t be this current left/right thing you “don’t understand”

    Leftists always know what to not understand and what to not remember.

    Current year, practically 90% of arguing with a leftist consists of the Leftist pretending to not understand things and not remember things.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197614
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Would Substack be a workable home for TAE? I guess it’s obvious enough that it has already been considered.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197613
    jb-hb
    Participant

    “No Kings!” = There shall be no Consul of the Plebes!

    The crowd is probably almost 100% people wanting to send anyone not taking a notavax to a concentration camp and confiscate their children. (Presumably to then groom and/or mutilate or give the chemical castration they give to convicted rapists)

    Congratulations Big Brain Leftists. You moved into the crowd and became the crowd. Literally. Just you and some drooling morons and mentally ill people You’re the crowd now

    And by your persistence and margins-are-the-substitute-proletariat, you’re quite solidly The Ick It might take a whole lifetime, 70 years, for that accomplishment to wear off

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197482
    jb-hb
    Participant

    All you have to do is, as your “political” platform, declare the Constitution to be a fascist racist document to be eliminated, throw in sworn destruction of “the capitalist system and the american family” and a bunch of other things no one likes, like the end of free speech.

    THEN, if an elected representative of The People moves to do the bare minimum of their duty – defend the Constitution – or the country – then they’re “using power to attack political opponents”

    After all, you’re for defending the Constitution and your civilization, society, while we are for destroying it. Ergo, you cannot fight us. We are your political opponents! ha-HA!!! We’re going to Hold U 2 Ur Rulez.

    US Uncovering Financial Networks Behind Domestic Terrorism, Bessent Says
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/us-uncovering-financial-networks-behind-domestic-terrorism-bessent-says

    On Sept. 22, Trump designated Antifa, a far-left extremist group known for committing politically motivated violence, as a domestic terrorist organization via an executive order. He called the group a “militarist, anarchist enterprise.”

    In a Sept. 25 statement, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) criticized the presidential memorandum, accusing it of targeting political opponents.

    It said the memo authorizes the government to conduct investigations into nonprofits, donors, and activists using “vague and overbroad labels” such as “conspiracy against rights” and “terrorism.”

    Hina Shamsi, the director of ACLU’s National Security Project, said the memo was another effort by Trump to intimidate critics.

    “The President is invoking political violence, which we all condemn, as an excuse to target non-profits and activists with the false and stigmatizing label of ‘domestic terrorism.’ This is a shameful and dangerous move. But the President cannot rewrite the Constitution by memo,” Shamsi said.

    “Intimidation tactics against those standing up for human rights and civil liberties are sadly not new in the history of this country. In an earlier era, civil rights movement leaders were also labeled security threats and investigated, monitored, threatened, and even arrested.”

    ACLU bringing the full force of their power to protect and sustain anyone working to end civil liberties. Again.

    Enemies of the Constitution are, essentially, sovereign non-citizens. They disavow the USA, it is not their nation.

    MAYBE they are in the pay of and/or give allegiance to a foreign nation outside the US borders. OR maybe they are in the pay of, give allegiance to a foreign nation INSIDE the US borders.

    Either way, they’re stateless enemies of the constitution engaged in an espionage war. Not only do domestic rights not apply to enemies of the constitution….(and those rights one wishes to deny everyone else should not apply to oneself – morality and logic 101. I am ok with cancelling anyone that engaged in cancel culture and silencing anyone that has worked to end free speech. Consequences, amirite?) but even the Geneva convention does not apply to those waging an espionage war.

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197479
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I realized a better description of the current Leftist strategy towards normies suddenly awakened and alarmed at Leftism in the US:

    “You don’t dislike Leftism. THAT isn’t what you dislike, is it? Surely, what you don’t want is EXTREMISM. And boy is the Right extreme..” (like if the Right dialed things back to 2019 – poof – Hitler is summoned!) We need to stop EXTREMISM, not LEFTISM. Now think about how EXTREME Trump (or the fictional cartoon villain called Trump from CNN and MSNBC and The View) is. (ratchet must only go Left, giving up any extremist leftist gains at all is “conservative extremism” the tide must never ever recede, only advance)

    (Meanwhile, Leftists increase, rather than decrease, extremist activities – in hopes of provoking a response they can point to as extreme. IIRC, in psychology these behaviors can be identified as Projective Identification and Reactive Abuse)

    in reply to: (No) Debt Rattle October 14 2025 #197478
    jb-hb
    Participant

    The Left is wailing over any prospect of a Gaza deal. Wailing that peace might HAPPEN.

    …because they wanted the energy of the issue and solving a problem negates the energy.

    Just like they had to save racism in 2020. We were about to – no, had actually lost it. And Racism had to be saved. To prevent the prospect of never getting it back.

    CO2 is one of the better Leftist ideas. Cows eat the grass and CO2 is released. But if they DIDN’T eat the grass, bacteria and fungi would eat the grass and release CO2. You’d have do do something like remove all life and replace it with solar panels to stop CO2 to save life.

    Just invert the most basic information taught in a freshman high school Earthscience class for the win. Leftists should go after the Water Cycle next. Rivers cause water vapor! People breathing causes water vapor! The Oceans cause water vapor! Stop them all! Freeze the ocean into ice blocks and launch them into orbit with magnetic launchers at the equator – it’s the only way to save the planet from the most basic of natural cycles that sustain life. Practically the only one more basic and essential than CO2.

    currently Leftist strategies appear to be:

    –for normies who just noticed something happening because of Leftist political assassination for speaking freely: were you thinking things have gone too far left? ohh but you could go too far right. You could go too far!!!

    Conservative USA is Thomas Jefferson, the epitome of Liberal. The definition of Liberal.

    By repeating the lie that Nationalist Socialists were “far right,” they imply oh no, don’t go an inch back towards Thomas Jefferson or you will fall off The Cliff Of Hitler, who is standing right here beside us and Stalin and Mao on the far Left”

    Besides which, they make out that conservatives dialing things back to what, 2014 would be to fall of the Hitler cliff. Or even back to 2019. Hell, we haven’t reversed back to 2020 yet. And Leftists are screeching we are teetering on the edge of Tyranny (wink wink Hitler)

    IF we were to reverse 200 fucking years, we’d STILL be more liberal than we are now and STILL absolutely nowhere near Hitler.

    We would be going FURTHER AWAY from Hitler with every step, because to go Right is to go away from Left, which is where Hitler – a Nationalist Socialist – stands. Occam’s Razor is offended by Leftist mindless repetition. Stalin and Hitler are so similar because they were so …similar. Duh. But going further and further away from Stalin makes you resemble Stalin MOAR, Hitler and Stalin being twins, brothers, respecting the hell out of each other, signing treaties of mutual aid, dismembering nations together. (But with Internationalism, the Komintern, betrayed by Nationalism – bitchy Leftist internal squabbling, sheesh)

    “Right” to a leftist ultimately just means unclean, forbidden, witch’s brew. Hitler is “Right” because to Internationalist Socialists, Nationalism is witch’s brew, unclean, cast out. Like how in every church service, the church chants, in unison, a creed — that emphasizes where the Church stands in terms of the trinity, godhead of Jesus, etc. So you don’t accidentally wind up with Arians or Paulicians. Nationalist = heretic = witchcraft = “right-wing” Like 1500 years later, STILL chanting a creed to block Arianism. Because holy fuck we don’t want THAT again.

    And to their enemies, an appeal to THEIR virtues, which the Left does not possess: We need UNITY, we need to be one people. We need to meet in the middle.

    The bad faith man: “Meet me in the middle”

    The good faith man: Takes a step forward

    The bad faith man: Takes a step back. “OK, now meet me in the middle.”

    Below we have a discussion – non-discussion actually – of how Meet Me In The Middle plays out.

    His interviewer is so patient with him that the Leftist breaks down into the most general, vague, therefore hopefully inarguable Leftist word-spells about revolution and overthrow. The Leftist seems to be unable to resist reaching for what they believe is the next-biggest hammer.

    But he cannot describe Meet Me In The Middle working because he has no good faith intention of doing so, does not want to reveal this, hasn’t even spent time thinking about it enough to have any idea how it COULD work, even so he could just lie better. He’s so focused on gaining the other side’s compliance deceitfully that he can’t even optimize his deceitfulness by modeling in his own head what good faith might actually look like.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36NgOXlN3MU

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 12 2025 #197337
    jb-hb
    Participant

    happy sunday to you too – it was just too good of an opportunity. you broke the chain though, man. buzz harshed.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 12 2025 #197335
    jb-hb
    Participant

    that’s not a leg

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 12 2025 #197332
    jb-hb
    Participant

    and blessed are the cheese snack makers, for at least, in their artificialness, their hands reached beyond their grasp for cheesiness, the very reason heaven is for, possibly. Blessed are the fake suntanners, for theirs is the kingdom of all things carrot.

    We already know Leftists invert everything.

    That’s how we knew “Law enforcement ONLY wears masks to THREATEN and INTIMIDATE!”

    Meant something reversed, possibly flipped upside down as well. Like – Leftists wear masks solely to treaten and intimidate.

    But no, it was backwards and upside down

    Antifa Is Threatening Families Of Law Enforcement: Homeland Security
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/antifa-threatening-families-law-enforcement-homeland-security

    It meant “Other people wearing masks stop US from threatening THEM and their families”

    What was it, 3 days from the assertion to the obvious, predictable reverse-flip?

    “Nothing is happening”

    Oh, so you won’t mind freeznig the hundreds of millions or billions of funding that isn’t there then. You’ll have zero complaints of non-existent money ceasing to exist? (howls of outrage)

    “It’s a distraction. A minor, irrelevancy”

    Oh, well then you won’t mind the totally minor actions dealing with it. All the actions to dismantle Antifa and the various networks of funding and insurgency and trust fund babies, these too are simply distractions”

    “this isn’t real marxism therefore it is no cause for alarm”

    well, then we call a new rule that this isn’t real eradication of marxism then, so you have no cause to continue your constant objections, you have no grounds to complain about its elimination. After all, you didn’t live in Chile when communists were given one way flights, therefore you have no standing to talk about it now, riiiiight?

    ANTIFA’s Mask Slips: Trump’s Roundtable Sends Shadow NGO Network Behind “Riot Inc.” Into Panic
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/antifas-mask-slips-trumps-roundtable-sends-shadow-ngo-network-behind-riot-inc-panic

    To sum up – do not worry:

    –Nothing is happening to your Leftism
    –What is happening is acshully merely a distraction – free your mind!
    –Real elimination of Leftism has never been tried
    –As you’ve never lived through real elimination of Leftism, you have no standing to comment on it now, your perceptions have no validity
    –it was always happening, everyone knew
    –…and that’s a GOOD thing

    an excellent comment on zerohedge

    What we’re dealing with isn’t just ANTIFA or protest groups — it’s a fully developed system. There’s a coordinated pattern playing out across the country, and once you see it, you can’t unsee it. First, the ideology is shaped in universities and think tanks. That’s where the narratives are written — defund the police, abolish ICE, white supremacy in the system — all seeded in academic theory and spread through campus networks. These ideas don’t stay in the classroom. They’re passed into activist collectives and “community organizations” that serve as ground-level organizing hubs.

    Then comes the money. Massive donor networks like Arabella Advisors, the Tides Foundation, and Open Society quietly fund these groups behind the scenes. They move billions through shell nonprofits and fiscal sponsors, keeping their hands clean while fueling chaos. These funds go to groups that organize protests, train activists, bail out violent offenders, and support campaigns to elect soft-on-crime prosecutors. These aren’t isolated acts — they’re funded operations protected under nonprofit status and often supported with public money.

    Meanwhile, media outlets and social platforms act as narrative shields. They downplay violence, elevate the talking points, and silence dissenting voices. Big Tech’s “trust and safety” boards often coordinate with the same NGOs funding the street action, ensuring that any counter-narrative is labeled misinformation or hate speech. The final layer is political protection — local DAs, city councils, and members of Congress who either benefit directly from these networks or are ideologically aligned. These officials refuse to prosecute, cut police budgets, and obstruct accountability while claiming moral high ground.

    This is not protest — it’s engineered destabilization. The violence is the surface. The real operation is financial, legal, and psychological. It’s all connected: the academic theory, the billionaire money, the nonprofit structures, the street unrest, the media spin, and the political cover. Once you see the loop — you realize the chaos is by design, not accident. And it’s not going away until the system funding it is exposed and dismantled.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 7 2025 #197041
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I don’t get it man.

    Look at the Cherokee vs Volga-Deutche.

    SOME Cherokee made a very stupid legal deal an were held to it. The other Cherokee took it to the Supreme Court, won, and remain in their home TO THIS DAY.

    What other ruthless, genocidal conqueror has, if a people learns the rules and plays by them, lets them WIN?

    Where’s the German Federation now? Where are the pacifist Mennonite farmers, their prosperous farms, their quaint villages, their German language newspapers?

    Different values lead to different outcomes.

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